Based on the base skills' wording, it seems like we have contracts where some other company is supposed trade 4 bars at a time, and when they can't trade that much they pay us a fine for "defaulting". Though using a level 2 trading post that can't ever produce 4-bar orders seems... questionable.
Didn't focus much on riic until I landed both of them, then something flipped and developed some kinda base optimizing obsession. Fiametta banner cant come soon enough.
I have Proviso+Exu in one trading post, and Shamare+Tequilla+Bibeak in another. With enough gold, my base produces up to 55k lmd per day, spending all my drones on Proviso's TP. When I run out of gold, it usually evens out to 42k-44k of production and trading.
yea i need to run three gold facs for proviso+exu and shamare+tequilla+bibeak/kafka, it's slightly gold negative but monthly green cert shop gold makes it roughly equal
@@n-dawwg2570 Wouldn't be the first time I blatantly disregarded Peter's advice. I could poke thru his spreadsheet to decide whether or not I agree with his math, but takes more than him just saying so, and providing a timestamp to change my opinion on the best course of action.
The representative of Kazimiers Lawyer deserves more than just a comfortable chair We need to give her a raise and a bonus for her contribution towards the R.I financial management
A day at the spa with all the expenses paid. Sure, having a literal demigod dragon lady that can solo stages is pretty cool, but a HONSE lady that helps me make more money is even better!
Imagine boarding RI, showing Doktah your resume, only for them to work you to the bone with a 36-hour shift (The post makes more in an hour than you do in a day). I would jump off the ship so fast. Great guide, thank you!
When i was very new, i threw a random 10-pull on Mylnar's banner and got myself a Proviso. Little did i know, that would be the best investment i could've made in this game. I don't even have the Tequila combo but Proviso alone sustained my entire LMD income, which comes out to around 55k a day, compared to the measly 40k before.
I have all Operator on Worldy Plight team, Mlynar and Fiametta also using 2-5-2. 1. With Wordly Plight team or Mlynar + any two morale boost Proviso always have 36+ shift hour which actually beneficial. 2. I use Fiametta refresh in order Shamare > Vermeil > Proviso. This interaction actually very easy to plan, not to mention your Scene (which actually highest XP producer when pair with Vermeil) actually can work for 48 hours before resting
I'm going to come back to this later, currently I use 2-4-3 and I can cash in about 12-15k lmd each time I check in, which is about 2-3 times a day so around 30k minimum. Because I always need lmd, I think it would be worth building a good base team because everyone is going to need it anyway.
if possible, a Control center rotations video with new ops would be great! I want to optimize but my lazy aah doesn't want to switch from a full rainbow squad
My personal choice is : Full Worldy Plight team comp for 27 hours and Mlynar filler team for 9 hours to make 36 hours shift. Also please noted that I use 2-5-2 base with max right-side building. Worldly Plight team is as it sound the Operator with Worldy Plight team such Nian siblings, Mulberry and Mr. Nothing (Lvl 2 TP with Proviso) this team have total 7 (or 8 if you add Jie Yun but as today, her 30% boost is underwhelming) Operator which is Chong Yue, Ling, Dusk, Kaltsit and Amiya on CC (Kaltsit for 2% boost and amiya for 7% more efficiency) Mulberry for Office and Mr. Nothing in Lvl 2 TP. I use 2 dorm for them to rest, 4 each with one morale +0.25 recovery boost. to make sure they recover in 9 hours Note : I use Reed Alter on CC when they resting so if you also 2-5-2 enjoyer with no max lvl dorm maybe you'll have to use 26-10 shift instead 27-9 shift if you don't have her
running 153, 3 shift in my base now, 1 trading post can provide nearly 40k lmd thanks to Proviso as well as 70k exp, I pair her with Mr. nothing and Ebenholz, Chong Yue, Ling, Dusk, Saileach in center, Whisperain in office, Iris and Czerny in two seperate dormitory, take Rosmontis for some products during this time as well for a +80% efficiency just her alone; this is the set up that can run 16-20 hours with the max efficency ; with Fiametta for routation, you can let Proviso run in trading post 24/7, after Mr.nothing and Ebenholz go to rest, and Proviso been reset by Fiametta, pair her with Shamare and Tequila for 4-8h as less efficiency trading while waiting for Mr.nothing and Ebenholz sanity regen to full.
You suggest that drones should be used on Provisio TP. But in case I want to have some surplus gold bar, should I use drones on Shamare combo TP? Since the extra 500 LMD are created out of thin air by Tequilla without consuming 1 gold bar.
Uhhh I was pulling for *ela* and I got soft pity fiameta then I randomly pulled proviso on a 10 draw and I'm the kind of guy to not understand shid about base usage but ig I'm gonna try now since there's that. Thanks again math man.
good video, you forgot to mention swapping in Tequila in a Lvl 3 Proviso Trading Post when using drones just so if a 4 Gold order is started it is also upgraded by Tequila to give 2500 instead of just a normal 2000.
Using drones on a level 2 TP with Proviso is even more effective, since 4-bar orders don't appear at all. But this is a good strategy if you don't downgrade a TP.
@@PeterYR yeah true, I just meant in the case of 243 Max base that would be a good thing to do for extra LMD, alot of people have a Maxed base even if 252 is more efficient just cause if the base died, they can quickly recover everyone in 6 hours or less, or they don't have alot of good ops to rotate in a 252
I'm really interested in trying the trading post level 2 setup, but I encountered a lot of stamina problems when I tried it since my entire base is fully upgraded. I'll have to look into those spreadsheets and decide for myself if I want to try it a second time I suppose.
Now we just need a broken exp base skill. Ever since Proviso's release I've had a surplus of LMD! Even with droning exp I still make nearly double the LMD. 38k exp using all drones vs 60k lmd no drones.
Most of the factory base skills are EXP-leaning, such as Vermeil-Pallas-Scene and Pinus gang vs the Automaton gang for gold. There are also more 30/35% EXP exclusive skills (Conviction, Vigna, FEater, Shirayuki, Frostleaf, Castle-3 to name a few) but few Gold skills (Gravel, Purestream, Haze, Spot) so I'm not sure if we even need a broken EXP skill. I've run into this problem myself and I've decided to just run 3 exp 2 gold for now and solely drone EXP until I have a decent EXP surplus again, then swap back to 3 gold 2 exp and solely drone Proviso.
@@halley_lu right but all the combos you listed are ~120% at most. Even with a very stacked Rosmontis you wouldn't be getting the 200% TP efficiency of Proviso + Nothing. If I could switch to 3 exp I would. Even at 15 factory slots I can't keep up with the gold drain 😭
(Assuming Gnosis in Control Center in both scenarios) would it be better to have Provisio, Silverash, and Jaye in one TP and Shamare, Bibeak, and Tequila in the other, or would it be better to have Provisio, Shamare, and Bibeak in one TP and Silverash, Jaye, and Cliffheart in the other?
The first option is better. Bibeak actually works against Proviso, as she makes 4-bar orders much more common, which don't work with Proviso. Shamare has a weaker version of the same base skill.
So proviso is the exception to the " DO NOT E2 FOR BASE SKILL " rule? (Guide put that in all caps not me) And yet all you base skill min-maxers are telling me you E2'd Tuye for her excellent healing abilities, and Mr Nothing for his groundbreaking meta defining DPS, or Tequila E2 because you don't have Silverash or Mylnar? Please. 😏
I mean, they say that so newer ppl dont do that, its totally different when u have 40 E2 already, you should have enough operators to steamroll any events, so anything u E2 is totally fine
Assuming: - I use a 243 setup (so all factories are already maxed) - My only "good" op is E2 maxed-dorms Archetto 40% (no Gnosis, E0 Jaye, Nothing, Shamare, Tequila, Kafka, Paprika, etc.), the rest are the usual 30% and 25% ops Should I still use E0 Proviso? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ EDIT: just went to the Google Sheets and tried using the calcs, correct me if im wrong: Using the formula: (100 + [TP prod from others] + [TP's innate prod]) * [Multiplier] - 103 - 7 where: [TP prod from others] = Archetto plus any30% = 70 [TP's innate prod] = lv3 TP = 3 [Multiplier] = E0 Proviso at lv3 TP = 1.275862 (as of writing this comment) -> (100 + 70 + 3) * 1.275862 - 110 = *110.724126%* So this is better than any x3 30%s (90%) Glasgow [EN Server] (95%) PenguinLogsitics (100%) PozyTuyeKirara/PTK w/ 2 gold lines (110%) and below Gnosis (125%) PTK w/ >2 gold lines (>115%) E2 Proviso [using 1.551724 instead of 1.275862] (158.45%) ShamareTequila (138.2% + 46.58% gold) is this correct?
Looks like you forgot the 7% from Amiya/Swire in "(100 + 70 + 3)", so the result becomes 119.7%. Still, it's better than almost all other TP teams, so definitely worth using.
Hey I recently started caring about my base more, do you think 3-5-2 is fine with proviso being in the lvl 2 TP? Or is the gold bar production unsustainable? I'm stockpiling more than enough exp but constantly low on LMD. Thanks for the help. I'll test it out once my Proviso is E2.
Hi Peter, can you explain about Waai Fu base skills?, because I've tried combining Waai Fu with the Bubble team (Bubble + Vulcan + Waai Fu) and the production boosted by +100%, is that a bug? Or is it her full potential base skills? (Sorry my English sucks)
Do you have a recommended balanced base with 2/5/2 13 slots? Using Proviso and Shamare/Bibeak/Tequila has forced me to set 4 factories to gold bars! This is hurting my EXP production. Should I instead use 3 factories for gold bars and then use all my drones on the factories rather than trading posts?
Stop dumping all your drones into trading posts. Using them on factories (both EXP and gold) is perfectly fine; Proviso's multiplier effectively increases their value as well. If you need more gold, using drones on gold factories can work. I also swap between 2 and 3 gold factories to keep production balanced with my trading posts. You can also use drones on EXP factories for more EXP production.
In a 252 setup with a level 3 and a level 2 TP, would it be better to run shamare and proviso together, since i dont have either tequila or bibeak/kafka e2ed? I can instead use a gnosis setup for the level 3 tp with e1 jaye, silverash, and courier/matterhorn? On another note, thank you for compiling all this info into those videos you make, without them, i would've still been stuck on the way of old, where i waited for everyones morale to deplete to 0.
Shamare's Tailoring works against Proviso somewhat, since Proviso benefits low-volume orders more. But it's a minor effect; Shamare is still a better Proviso partner than a 40% base skill. So unless you have something like a stacked Mr. Nothing, what you describe is probably your best setup.
dunno if I have enough gold bars stocked up, prob would run out very quickly if I used Proviso I'll just stick with Shamare Bibeak Tequila since they give more LMD per gold bar.
Great video, bro. Unfortunately I don't get proviso or shamare from my suck pull. OOT. I don't have Nian and Chong Yue, is worldly plight combo still "worth it" to run in my base?
So, as someone who has 2-4-3 and maxed right side, I wont be reconfiguring my base and subject myself to more frequent min-maxing than I already am doing (checking my base 2-3 times a day). I believe it was mentioned in a previous video, but I watched those a long time ago. How long does it even take for Proviso to break even, if I E2 her for base purposes? Materials I have plenty stocked up and don't mind using, but I'm talking LMD, EXP, because that's what I'm most starved on usually
I want to move to the 252 base but I'm lacking of key operators. would you make a video about switching base from 243 to 252 and list of operators needed for maximum incomes?
Switching to 252 will improve base output regardless of operators you have; you don't "need" certain operators just to switch over. The base combo guide linked in the description has a list of good base skills/combos.
@@PeterYRof course, thanks for the guide. about the needed operators, for example I only have ling so no sui siblings combo, and dont have fiametta for mlynar or proviso, and grey alter. I saw your guide video about his base skill which is so mind-blowing. another time maybe a full tour of your base? chong yue has come to EN so it might be a perfect time.
@@PeterYR sry what i meant was, does proviso in a level 2 trading post still last 36 hrs if mlynar has to recover in a dorm for 12 hrs during this time? this is an inevitable situation if you are refreshing with fiametta always. going off the numbers on your vid i got the answer: yes barely, the 12 hrs whilst mlynar is in the dorm will consume 8.4 morale from proviso, and the other 2 two 12hr shifts will consume 7.8 each for 15.6 total. all adds up to 24, so fairly tight, but even with one other smiley face skill it becomes very reasonable. that is my understanding but i could be misunderstanding something.
252. with proviso now i net 57k lmd (with drone), 51k gold, 30k exp daily factory is 2exp and 3gold currently. and looks like the gold will run out with my current setup since it's now sitting at 200 and increasing instead of decreasing maybe will change to 3exp and 2gold when i need exp
When Proviso came out, another vlogger claimed that unlike Tequila, Proviso did not give any added value. Sure your base go through gold bars faster, but it just means at some point, a factory has to be shifted into gold bar production. Maybe someone smarter can support this or debunk this.
This is a common misconception. Converting gold to LMD is also "valuable". Otherwise, there would be no point to using trading posts at all. Proviso accelerates this conversion and provides significant "value", more than the extra gold Tequila effectively gives. There's also nothing wrong with switching a factory to gold. Using 3 gold factories was already a common strategy for 252 users before Proviso. You could also use fewer drones on Proviso on more on a gold factory, and end up with more LMD than just droning Tequila.
Depends on those "other ops". With a 30% partner, she gives an 85% boost plus an extra Factory level, which beats most (but not all) lvl 3 TP setups. The "Base Combo Guide" linked in the description has a formula for calculating her true production values.
I'm too low brain dokta to understend best provicio partners 😅 Can someone help me pls >_< I already have 2 main teams Tequila Kafka Shamare and SA Jaye Cliff with Gnosis at CC. And extra team is Archetto Vigil and some 30% So if I won't use members from main team who would be better partner for Provicio?
Disregarding the math, those 3 are some of the strongest 5 star who I would put all of them at atleast top 10. Especially shamare, its a good idea to level them for gameplay.
*Only* for their base skill no. Any given operator will take ages to recoup the invested resources you spend to promo them on their own. Theyre good ops, tho.
proviso was featured (because she was introduced) on mlynar's banner back in march. she hasn't been featured since then, and i doubt she will again. i'm pretty sure she has the same chance to pull as any other 5*, but that's still pretty low unless you're doing lots of pulls, like on a limited banner.
@@josemariareyesmontoya3903 well, i wasn't quite clear. most likely, there will never be another banner where proviso is the only 5*. however, she could still be featured as one of multiple on a standard banner, like how cantabile (who was introduced in ideal city in january) is on the blemishine/eyja banner.
@@zoneoftruth I recently watched a video of Arknights 4th anniversary where they let you make your own banner, with that in mind could I put Proviso as one of the 5 stars if I dont get here before? Or she is not an option to put in there?
@@josemariareyesmontoya3903 i'm not as familiar with cn content, but from what i can tell, it looks like that's on the headhunting hypergryph recently split off for old operators because the pool was getting too crowded, so i wouldn't bet on it.
Thus it turns out that the most efficient way to make money is to hire a lawyer to help you evade taxes
@@Shinidoshi and then after they quit they work for corporations pointing out they loopholes they added to the tax code.
Based on the base skills' wording, it seems like we have contracts where some other company is supposed trade 4 bars at a time, and when they can't trade that much they pay us a fine for "defaulting".
Though using a level 2 trading post that can't ever produce 4-bar orders seems... questionable.
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@@bloodred255lmao xd
I can't help but laugh at how accurate this is IRL.
"so you e2 proviso?"
"yes"
"so youre using her a lot in the game?"
"yes....in the "game""
Didn't even E2 them, just base skill already drained all my pure gold.
Base (Beta) is the true endgame
To be fair you manage her more than your auto-replay units
Me: Yes but also with Tequila.
Shout-out Baseknights players.
Based knights
What a magnificent show of Arknights endgame. Truly one of a kind
Imagine pulling for Mlynar on his banner. I specifically pulled for Proviso's base skill lmao
Same. Only pulled Mlynar for his morale buff to use on Proviso.
You people scare me
Didn't focus much on riic until I landed both of them, then something flipped and developed some kinda base optimizing obsession. Fiametta banner cant come soon enough.
i started the game with mlynar banner and i rerolled for those two though i got schwarz as additional free 6 star ^_^
I pulled for Proviso not even waiting daddy to come home, but it took me 60 pulls to obtain 1 Proviso and I got 3 Mlynars and Mizuki lol
WE'RE GOING OUT OF BANKRUPTCY WITH PROVISIO 🗣🗣🔥🔥
We shall call this Financialknights. Thank you for the guide!
E2 proviso gang rise up
Requesting a similar video for command centre rotations. With addition of Mlynar and Chongye, there are just to many good ops to put there.
I have Proviso+Exu in one trading post, and Shamare+Tequilla+Bibeak in another. With enough gold, my base produces up to 55k lmd per day, spending all my drones on Proviso's TP. When I run out of gold, it usually evens out to 42k-44k of production and trading.
might be better off droning tequilla
do max then -1 drone so it actually uses his ability.
@@bloodred255 4:37 it literally says in the video to drone Proviso
Oh? Interesting. So you have 5 factories. 3 of em produce gold?
yea i need to run three gold facs for proviso+exu and shamare+tequilla+bibeak/kafka, it's slightly gold negative but monthly green cert shop gold makes it roughly equal
@@n-dawwg2570 Wouldn't be the first time I blatantly disregarded Peter's advice.
I could poke thru his spreadsheet to decide whether or not I agree with his math, but takes more than him just saying so, and providing a timestamp to change my opinion on the best course of action.
Her skill is so strong he had to make another video.
We really should use some of that LMD to buy her a more comfortable chair.
The representative of Kazimiers Lawyer deserves more than just a comfortable chair
We need to give her a raise and a bonus for her contribution towards the R.I financial management
A day at the spa with all the expenses paid. Sure, having a literal demigod dragon lady that can solo stages is pretty cool, but a HONSE lady that helps me make more money is even better!
Proviso single-handedly paying off everyone's E2 debts.
Imagine boarding RI, showing Doktah your resume, only for them to work you to the bone with a 36-hour shift (The post makes more in an hour than you do in a day). I would jump off the ship so fast. Great guide, thank you!
When i was very new, i threw a random 10-pull on Mylnar's banner and got myself a Proviso. Little did i know, that would be the best investment i could've made in this game.
I don't even have the Tequila combo but Proviso alone sustained my entire LMD income, which comes out to around 55k a day, compared to the measly 40k before.
Babe wake up new base video just dropped
omaigod peter's alive
I want proviso more than I want certain 6 stars only for this base skill
I have all Operator on Worldy Plight team, Mlynar and Fiametta also using 2-5-2.
1. With Wordly Plight team or Mlynar + any two morale boost Proviso always have 36+ shift hour which actually beneficial.
2. I use Fiametta refresh in order Shamare > Vermeil > Proviso.
This interaction actually very easy to plan, not to mention your Scene (which actually highest XP producer when pair with Vermeil) actually can work for 48 hours before resting
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I'm going to come back to this later, currently I use 2-4-3 and I can cash in about 12-15k lmd each time I check in, which is about 2-3 times a day so around 30k minimum. Because I always need lmd, I think it would be worth building a good base team because everyone is going to need it anyway.
So this is what real Arknights end game is like? I still have ways to go.
if possible, a Control center rotations video with new ops would be great!
I want to optimize but my lazy aah doesn't want to switch from a full rainbow squad
Yeah. Full rainbow squad is the best base comp. I wish they add more base comp like this to other sector (factory, trading, clue, etc).
My personal choice is :
Full Worldy Plight team comp for 27 hours and Mlynar filler team for 9 hours to make 36 hours shift.
Also please noted that I use 2-5-2 base with max right-side building.
Worldly Plight team is as it sound the Operator with Worldy Plight team such Nian siblings, Mulberry and Mr. Nothing (Lvl 2 TP with Proviso) this team have total 7 (or 8 if you add Jie Yun but as today, her 30% boost is underwhelming) Operator which is Chong Yue, Ling, Dusk, Kaltsit and Amiya on CC (Kaltsit for 2% boost and amiya for 7% more efficiency) Mulberry for Office and Mr. Nothing in Lvl 2 TP.
I use 2 dorm for them to rest, 4 each with one morale +0.25 recovery boost. to make sure they recover in 9 hours
Note : I use Reed Alter on CC when they resting so if you also 2-5-2 enjoyer with no max lvl dorm maybe you'll have to use 26-10 shift instead 27-9 shift if you don't have her
Base combo guide in description has all that.
@@kr4547 Oh right..... sorry, didn't see the description before :3
@@ismailabdulq1492 that was meant for op lol. Not you
Nothing beats 'The Trinity' (Exu, Lapp & Tex)
running 153, 3 shift in my base now, 1 trading post can provide nearly 40k lmd thanks to Proviso as well as 70k exp, I pair her with Mr. nothing and Ebenholz, Chong Yue, Ling, Dusk, Saileach in center, Whisperain in office, Iris and Czerny in two seperate dormitory, take Rosmontis for some products during this time as well for a +80% efficiency just her alone; this is the set up that can run 16-20 hours with the max efficency ; with Fiametta for routation, you can let Proviso run in trading post 24/7, after Mr.nothing and Ebenholz go to rest, and Proviso been reset by Fiametta, pair her with Shamare and Tequila for 4-8h as less efficiency trading while waiting for Mr.nothing and Ebenholz sanity regen to full.
this is way more intense than clash of clans
I discovered this earlier this year lmao she's so good
Proviso ate all my gold.
tfw I don't regret not pulling in Mlynar's banner for him but for the massive LMD stonks I'm missing not having Proviso.
You suggest that drones should be used on Provisio TP.
But in case I want to have some surplus gold bar, should I use drones on Shamare combo TP? Since the extra 500 LMD are created out of thin air by Tequilla without consuming 1 gold bar.
It's better to use drones on Proviso's TP and a gold factory. You could also set 3 factories to produce gold (if using 252).
Uhhh I was pulling for *ela* and I got soft pity fiameta then I randomly pulled proviso on a 10 draw and I'm the kind of guy to not understand shid about base usage but ig I'm gonna try now since there's that. Thanks again math man.
I still have no idea how Mr Nothing can have 74% single product speed boost
good video, you forgot to mention swapping in Tequila in a Lvl 3 Proviso Trading Post when using drones just so if a 4 Gold order is started it is also upgraded by Tequila to give 2500 instead of just a normal 2000.
Using drones on a level 2 TP with Proviso is even more effective, since 4-bar orders don't appear at all. But this is a good strategy if you don't downgrade a TP.
@@PeterYR yeah true, I just meant in the case of 243 Max base that would be a good thing to do for extra LMD, alot of people have a Maxed base even if 252 is more efficient just cause if the base died, they can quickly recover everyone in 6 hours or less, or they don't have alot of good ops to rotate in a 252
I'm really interested in trying the trading post level 2 setup, but I encountered a lot of stamina problems when I tried it since my entire base is fully upgraded. I'll have to look into those spreadsheets and decide for myself if I want to try it a second time I suppose.
This is my calling, tequila and proviso has been on the edge of e2 i just wasnt doing it
Now we just need a broken exp base skill. Ever since Proviso's release I've had a surplus of LMD! Even with droning exp I still make nearly double the LMD. 38k exp using all drones vs 60k lmd no drones.
Most of the factory base skills are EXP-leaning, such as Vermeil-Pallas-Scene and Pinus gang vs the Automaton gang for gold. There are also more 30/35% EXP exclusive skills (Conviction, Vigna, FEater, Shirayuki, Frostleaf, Castle-3 to name a few) but few Gold skills (Gravel, Purestream, Haze, Spot) so I'm not sure if we even need a broken EXP skill.
I've run into this problem myself and I've decided to just run 3 exp 2 gold for now and solely drone EXP until I have a decent EXP surplus again, then swap back to 3 gold 2 exp and solely drone Proviso.
@@halley_lu right but all the combos you listed are ~120% at most. Even with a very stacked Rosmontis you wouldn't be getting the 200% TP efficiency of Proviso + Nothing. If I could switch to 3 exp I would. Even at 15 factory slots I can't keep up with the gold drain 😭
I use her, Silverash and Jaye.
(Assuming Gnosis in Control Center in both scenarios) would it be better to have Provisio, Silverash, and Jaye in one TP and Shamare, Bibeak, and Tequila in the other,
or would it be better to have Provisio, Shamare, and Bibeak in one TP and Silverash, Jaye, and Cliffheart in the other?
The first option is better. Bibeak actually works against Proviso, as she makes 4-bar orders much more common, which don't work with Proviso. Shamare has a weaker version of the same base skill.
So proviso is the exception to the " DO NOT E2 FOR BASE SKILL " rule? (Guide put that in all caps not me) And yet all you base skill min-maxers are telling me you E2'd Tuye for her excellent healing abilities, and Mr Nothing for his groundbreaking meta defining DPS, or Tequila E2 because you don't have Silverash or Mylnar? Please. 😏
I mean, they say that so newer ppl dont do that, its totally different when u have 40 E2 already, you should have enough operators to steamroll any events, so anything u E2 is totally fine
Yep she basically the one who vacuumm all my gold bar
Damn, should've pulled more on that banner.
Great video Peter
I mean
Thanks for this. Very helpful
Assuming:
- I use a 243 setup (so all factories are already maxed)
- My only "good" op is E2 maxed-dorms Archetto 40% (no Gnosis, E0 Jaye, Nothing, Shamare, Tequila, Kafka, Paprika, etc.), the rest are the usual 30% and 25% ops
Should I still use E0 Proviso?
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
EDIT: just went to the Google Sheets and tried using the calcs, correct me if im wrong:
Using the formula:
(100 + [TP prod from others] + [TP's innate prod]) * [Multiplier] - 103 - 7
where:
[TP prod from others] = Archetto plus any30% = 70
[TP's innate prod] = lv3 TP = 3
[Multiplier] = E0 Proviso at lv3 TP = 1.275862 (as of writing this comment)
-> (100 + 70 + 3) * 1.275862 - 110 = *110.724126%*
So this is better than
any x3 30%s (90%)
Glasgow [EN Server] (95%)
PenguinLogsitics (100%)
PozyTuyeKirara/PTK w/ 2 gold lines (110%)
and below
Gnosis (125%)
PTK w/ >2 gold lines (>115%)
E2 Proviso [using 1.551724 instead of 1.275862] (158.45%)
ShamareTequila (138.2% + 46.58% gold)
is this correct?
Looks like you forgot the 7% from Amiya/Swire in "(100 + 70 + 3)", so the result becomes 119.7%. Still, it's better than almost all other TP teams, so definitely worth using.
My new base meta is Most Rewards For Least Clicks (consistent schedule gives slight bonus points). I also do not have Fiammetta.
Hey I recently started caring about my base more, do you think 3-5-2 is fine with proviso being in the lvl 2 TP? Or is the gold bar production unsustainable? I'm stockpiling more than enough exp but constantly low on LMD. Thanks for the help. I'll test it out once my Proviso is E2.
Tks for the video :v . Also can you make a video showcase which team combo should you use in control center?
Hi Peter, can you explain about Waai Fu base skills?, because I've tried combining Waai Fu with the Bubble team (Bubble + Vulcan + Waai Fu) and the production boosted by +100%, is that a bug? Or is it her full potential base skills? (Sorry my English sucks)
Do you have a recommended balanced base with 2/5/2 13 slots? Using Proviso and Shamare/Bibeak/Tequila has forced me to set 4 factories to gold bars! This is hurting my EXP production. Should I instead use 3 factories for gold bars and then use all my drones on the factories rather than trading posts?
Stop dumping all your drones into trading posts. Using them on factories (both EXP and gold) is perfectly fine; Proviso's multiplier effectively increases their value as well.
If you need more gold, using drones on gold factories can work. I also swap between 2 and 3 gold factories to keep production balanced with my trading posts. You can also use drones on EXP factories for more EXP production.
@@PeterYR thank you so much for the detailed reply; I really appreciate it!
In a 252 setup with a level 3 and a level 2 TP, would it be better to run shamare and proviso together, since i dont have either tequila or bibeak/kafka e2ed? I can instead use a gnosis setup for the level 3 tp with e1 jaye, silverash, and courier/matterhorn?
On another note, thank you for compiling all this info into those videos you make, without them, i would've still been stuck on the way of old, where i waited for everyones morale to deplete to 0.
Shamare's Tailoring works against Proviso somewhat, since Proviso benefits low-volume orders more. But it's a minor effect; Shamare is still a better Proviso partner than a 40% base skill. So unless you have something like a stacked Mr. Nothing, what you describe is probably your best setup.
@PeterYR Thank you for the reply, I was asking about this situation specifically because it's the best setup available to me
her skill is pretty great... but micromanaging base is so much work :(
LEEEEEEEEETSSSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
dunno if I have enough gold bars stocked up, prob would run out very quickly if I used Proviso
I'll just stick with Shamare Bibeak Tequila since they give more LMD per gold bar.
can I pair her with Shamare (in case where I dont have Bibeak for the Shamare Bibeak Tequila golden trio?)
Assuming Max Right and wanting to go 1-5-3, would proviiso or shamare/bibeak/tequila be better as a solo TP?
Great video, bro. Unfortunately I don't get proviso or shamare from my suck pull.
OOT. I don't have Nian and Chong Yue, is worldly plight combo still "worth it" to run in my base?
So, as someone who has 2-4-3 and maxed right side, I wont be reconfiguring my base and subject myself to more frequent min-maxing than I already am doing (checking my base 2-3 times a day).
I believe it was mentioned in a previous video, but I watched those a long time ago. How long does it even take for Proviso to break even, if I E2 her for base purposes?
Materials I have plenty stocked up and don't mind using, but I'm talking LMD, EXP, because that's what I'm most starved on usually
max 190 days with a 30% in a lv2 TP. Also if you want to check your base less, why not go 252? It's much less work for better production.
im 252 and only need to login twice a day, what does minmaxing base even mean lol
@@blackgatoacer9211 well it's 252 now, let's see how long it takes to get used to that
Thanks for this! Math is my one weakness 😂
I want to move to the 252 base but I'm lacking of key operators. would you make a video about switching base from 243 to 252 and list of operators needed for maximum incomes?
Switching to 252 will improve base output regardless of operators you have; you don't "need" certain operators just to switch over. The base combo guide linked in the description has a list of good base skills/combos.
@@PeterYRof course, thanks for the guide. about the needed operators, for example I only have ling so no sui siblings combo, and dont have fiametta for mlynar or proviso, and grey alter. I saw your guide video about his base skill which is so mind-blowing.
another time maybe a full tour of your base? chong yue has come to EN so it might be a perfect time.
ello, can you explain about chongyue and another sui operator control center buff
I make 80k LMD on average when Proviso is working that day. But this cause problem where I lack gold bars so rip
does mlynar's recovery period screw with the ionised fiametta strat?
No, he actually gives you much more leeway in swapping for 3 ops and in this case enables Proviso without doing any swapping strats
No, he actually gives you much more leeway for each refresh since your workers won't run out of morale as quickly.
@@PeterYR sry what i meant was, does proviso in a level 2 trading post still last 36 hrs if mlynar has to recover in a dorm for 12 hrs during this time? this is an inevitable situation if you are refreshing with fiametta always. going off the numbers on your vid i got the answer: yes barely, the 12 hrs whilst mlynar is in the dorm will consume 8.4 morale from proviso, and the other 2 two 12hr shifts will consume 7.8 each for 15.6 total. all adds up to 24, so fairly tight, but even with one other smiley face skill it becomes very reasonable.
that is my understanding but i could be misunderstanding something.
Proviso, slowly causing me to save gold since CN announcement, and slowly draining gold since EN release.
I know right, even for me 2-5-2 user with 3 factory gold bar can't casually use all drone to Proviso and sometime have to use it on factory
Now you Ruin my Head
252. with proviso now i net 57k lmd (with drone), 51k gold, 30k exp daily
factory is 2exp and 3gold currently. and looks like the gold will run out with my current setup since it's now sitting at 200 and increasing instead of decreasing
maybe will change to 3exp and 2gold when i need exp
Is it worth it to E2 her? I just use her as E0 and im not sure if i should E2 or not.
can you do a vid about the updated base trio in factory and trading post.
Bruh, I used Fia to work Penance nonstop in the office 😅
When Proviso came out, another vlogger claimed that unlike Tequila, Proviso did not give any added value.
Sure your base go through gold bars faster, but it just means at some point, a factory has to be shifted into gold bar production. Maybe someone smarter can support this or debunk this.
This is a common misconception. Converting gold to LMD is also "valuable". Otherwise, there would be no point to using trading posts at all. Proviso accelerates this conversion and provides significant "value", more than the extra gold Tequila effectively gives.
There's also nothing wrong with switching a factory to gold. Using 3 gold factories was already a common strategy for 252 users before Proviso. You could also use fewer drones on Proviso on more on a gold factory, and end up with more LMD than just droning Tequila.
So is she still worth using over other ops at only e0?
Depends on those "other ops". With a 30% partner, she gives an 85% boost plus an extra Factory level, which beats most (but not all) lvl 3 TP setups. The "Base Combo Guide" linked in the description has a formula for calculating her true production values.
Sucks I can't use 5 factories since my bum ass upgraded the right side of the Base which I didn't know at the time that you can't downgrade it
I'd totally use her if I had her.
Does Proviso/Mr Nothing/another OP works?
Am I losing that much efficiency if I put her in a level 3 post?
I'm too low brain dokta to understend best provicio partners 😅 Can someone help me pls >_<
I already have 2 main teams Tequila Kafka Shamare and SA Jaye Cliff with Gnosis at CC. And extra team is Archetto Vigil and some 30%
So if I won't use members from main team who would be better partner for Provicio?
For those who have 1k gold bars, now you know how to make profit.
I dunno... usually I just put random blue shit...as long as it's for trade
I'd just like to know if people doing 252 setups actually see over 60k LMD daily.
Why stop at 60k? You can reach 75k daily if you're fully invested.
my reports says i get 70k+ lmd everyday
is it worth to e2 tequil shamare bibeak only for their base skill?
Disregarding the math, those 3 are some of the strongest 5 star who I would put all of them at atleast top 10. Especially shamare, its a good idea to level them for gameplay.
Yes. Tequila is a great damage dealer and Shanare is a fantastic debuffer. Bibeak has a lot of stall strats in CC too, so she can be worth building.
*Only* for their base skill no. Any given operator will take ages to recoup the invested resources you spend to promo them on their own. Theyre good ops, tho.
@@fortidogi8620 proviso is an exception with a roi of < 1 year
@@fortidogi8620 only exception is Proviso herself since she can repay her cost fully in less than a year.
my gold production can't keep up so i'm stacking gold while using some 30%s with proviso lmao
I´m new to the game and now you hipped me with running proviso in my base like that. When can i get her?
proviso was featured (because she was introduced) on mlynar's banner back in march. she hasn't been featured since then, and i doubt she will again. i'm pretty sure she has the same chance to pull as any other 5*, but that's still pretty low unless you're doing lots of pulls, like on a limited banner.
@@zoneoftruth sad
@@josemariareyesmontoya3903 well, i wasn't quite clear. most likely, there will never be another banner where proviso is the only 5*. however, she could still be featured as one of multiple on a standard banner, like how cantabile (who was introduced in ideal city in january) is on the blemishine/eyja banner.
@@zoneoftruth I recently watched a video of Arknights 4th anniversary where they let you make your own banner, with that in mind could I put Proviso as one of the 5 stars if I dont get here before? Or she is not an option to put in there?
@@josemariareyesmontoya3903 i'm not as familiar with cn content, but from what i can tell, it looks like that's on the headhunting hypergryph recently split off for old operators because the pool was getting too crowded, so i wouldn't bet on it.
Got mlynar but not proviso sadge
is chongyue's base skill actually good to use?
If you have other sui siblings, especially Ling, then yes. (Mr. nothing and Mulberry can also work ig)
Omg im about to E2 an op for base skills 😂
that's e2 Jaye, right?
4 ⭐ only need e1 for their base skill. But he needs E2 Gnosis and some Karlan ops to work.