Is This $50 PC a Pile of Junk?!
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
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I spent $50 on an old OEM pre-built PC... and I may be seriously regretting it. How far does $50 go in late 2023? Will this rig end up a pile of junk or a genuinely decent machine? Let's find out!
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Intro tunes 🔥
I was literally playing osrs when I started watching this lol
*Aggressive Sea Shanties 1800s throwbacks*
@@ianscott5000 honestly so true I thought I had turned the music on lmao
@@ianscott5000 ditto
You should have gotten a minimum of a $10 discount since someone shot their load on the side panel. I'll usually give my customers at least a $15 discount when that happens, which is the typical discount that most sellers offer.
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Huh, I usually pay extra for that 🤔
Dirty Mike and the boys strike again!
@@TommyAgramonSeth This is my 13th reason
That's what I thought when I first saw the pc,someone had a happy ending all over the side of this thing.
PLEASE do not stop finding these super budget PCs and making videos for them, its interesting to see how these old prebuilt's look like and how they perform!
Agreed, I've really been enjoying them.
That 4060 may be overkill for that system, but using it for bottleneck testing on these older rigs like you have been is a good use for it. It's nice to see how capable these older systems are even if paired with new equipment.
A 1060 is overkill for this lol
@@tomtemple69you'd be surprised how well it holds up. I had a 3770k and noticed quite a big jump upgrading from a 1060 to a 2060, but I'd say that's about the limit of it lol
@@simplyinfinity6606 yeah I remember having an i5 6500 and a 1070 ti was too much for it lol
I think this is a brilliant idea! I see this kind of question pop up a lot on places like Reddit.
an amd card is better for bottleneck testing, as nvidia cards have worse driver overhead
This kind of deals are great at helping to reduce e-waste ending up in landfills.
Great to see that platform put to work. My third rig (that I use on my TV for streaming and light gaming) has an i7-3770, 16gb DDR3 and a 1650-Super, it was made "from scraps" and hasn't shown any downside so far.
Pretty good deal for $50. I will say there's nothing cringe about the adapter you made as that was common practice even on reputable DIY power supplies at one point, because 6-pins are rated for the same current as an 8-pin. Also, this system came out when 80+ was pretty new, so it's not really surprising that it doesn't have an 80+ rating on the power supply, but it's worth noting that it is 80+ Gold rated per HP's specs. However, it kills me every time people assume OEM power supplies are probably junk. This was manufactured by Delta... it's far from junk because Delta doesn't make junk.
If six pins and eight pins are the same current, what choices go into selecting the pin number?
@@Herrikias It all boils down to a pointless sensing specification. PCISig decided that two extra grounds doubles the current rating of a standard they were already vastly under utilizing. But the fact is, both have the same amount of 12v terminals and adding two extra grounds to the existing three isn't going to have any impact on how much current the cable can carry and Molex rates both at the same current rating, in this case, 8.5 amps, and with three 12v terminals that equals 306 watts.
“For parts, not working”
Greg: challenge accepted
i got my hp with i7 6700 said parts only dont power on for 70 it didnt have boot drive hhaa
Seeing those old systems really takes me back to working on my moms pc. Cracking open an old gateway from the 90S, that thing really performs well for the cost that's for sure.
Great video !! It's amazing how these old systems are somewhat still usable after 10-12 years
I love this series. It really shows that you can get a good gaming experience for cheap if you do some hunting. A PC like this would also make for a killer home server running some linux build.
This is gold Greg- just seeing the older hardware and the "as is for parts", and making a viable working rig is exciting. Thanks for this perspective that grabs the attention of many.
when i first started pc gaming, i bought an optiplex for like 200 bucks. i couldnt play much obviously due to the i5 650 and 8GB of DDR3, but this obviously got me started and I put in a 1060 low profile card and then bought a prebuilt, then i started building myself and now im at one of the best and my favorite builds ive done. I appreciate you making videos like this to just show people where they can start and where they can go from there. It's very inspirational.
I love these videos. I'm only 63!! Probably why I like old PC's!! Keep EM' coming!
I personally enjoy you reviewing the older systems. It’s amazing how far technology as advanced through the years.
GGG - Good Guy Greg testing people's hardware and just being completely honest
the biggest shock is that Greg's only 28 was assuming you were into early 30's wow
I'm all for Greg buying these Office PCs!
The results are actually really surprising here, It's also pretty crazy that increasing the resolution actually helps, it would be temping to assume reducing it due to the terrible CPU would be the way to go. Also, love the scuffed power connector...
Increasing resolution helps because at 1080p the card is too powerful and the cpu is working overtime to try and feed enough frames to the gpu.
When you increase the resolution the gpu has to work a lot harder which reduces the amount of work the cpu has to do.
@@Aygross congratulations, you win the "I'm the prick" star for comments in this video. Not everyone knows CPUs are taxed by high FPS and not high graphical settings. Congratulations on your star! ⭐
Another Gregory W (I dont talk like this im 30)
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Greg you are such a nice and honest guy. Wish everyone would be like you.
Awesome videos, Greg! Keep 'em coming, and we'll keep watching!
Used one of these exact PCs to write several F18 training lesson & documents back in 2012-2013. Was a good PC.
Thank you So Much for using OSRunescape music in the intro ❤
Greg, I've been a subscriber for a long time now, and you never disappoint with any of your content. My favorite being the Fix or Flop series. Videos like this make you my favorite tech RUclipsr even more! Never stop being you! Your viewers appreciate it!
Please keep making these ones. I flip PCs as a side gig for extra pocket money and I love seeing others do it as well!
your videos help a lot with what i'm going through. thank you
Always an awesome video Greg! Used things I learned to fix my kiddos Pc!
You really should start a series on this kind of stuff (Junk or Jewel? Deal or Drop?), buying old systems and repairing them or upgrading them, love this kind of content!
im glad im not the only one who enjoys these old gaming PC's.
I wonder if you would do a restoration video on the older hardware like a youtuber called, Cat&Andrew
that was a hella fast delivery.... I mean 20seconds after filming it and it got delivered!!!! again nice video, thank you.
I've been binging your video's in anticipation of building my itx gaming pc :)
Loving these videos, old pre-builts like this is how I started getting into building PCs as well. Makes we want to go pick some up and tinker!
These videos are so entertaining and educational props to you
Always loved working on computers as a kid with my dad. :) It's where my love for them came from.
I love finding old hardware like this and getting them working. great content. cant wait to watch more.
Nah Greg this great videos of older PC coming back to life. If I see someone trows away a PC like I pick it up and mess with it see if it works.
To me this shows once again how older platforms are still very usable, great to see! It would be interesting to see how it performs in a real world scenario when theres more stuff on the PC. That were my 4th gen i7 really started to limit and made me upgrade to a Ryzen 7000
If you have "more stuff" on your PC that affects CPU performance this much, you should refrain from installing this "stuff" in the first place.
@@rockapartie you use your pc for only, exclusively, gaming? If not, you go around closing literally everything else you did and/or worked on the rest of the day?
@@WouterVerbruggen Mostly, because if I left my DAW + drums + Guitar Rig etc. open, programming and video editing tools, ... then I would need at least 64 GB of RAM. Only Tixati and MusicBee or VLC stay open during gaming; sometimes Afterburner while tweaking game settings. I still ran out of RAM sometimes on my previous system (4670K + 16 GB), but that was due to a memory leak in Firefox (after a couple hours of RUclips streaming, it used up insane amounts of RAM as well as VRAM).
@@rockapartie well in that case, to keep at your own argument, you shouldn't install those in the first place.........
@@WouterVerbruggen Well, your first comment sounded like stuff just _being_ on your PC slowed it down, which should never happen. You didn't say anything about running several apps at the same time + games ^^
Did the same when I was younger, worked on a ton of hand me down and tossed computers. Thanks for sharing
I found your youtube channel by chance and have been binge watching! Great stuff, keep it up!
Awesome, thank you!
That is the pc I got now a hp z220 sff 8gb ram still running great video Gregg
I repurposed my old 4770K tower into a media server. I ended up buying a mini-ITX board on ebay to slim down the case requirements, which wasn't too bad on price around $50 w/shipping. No GPU needed for video encoding, and its currently still running like a champ 10 years on. Those 3rd and 4th gen Intel chips were excellent value at the time, and still hold up well now. I retired it for a 10th gen since games were starting to be limited, but it functioned for an audio workstation for a long time and only the last few years was being used for heavier gaming.
Hello Greg ! I've been following your videos for a while and I particularly appreciate your cheap pc videos on Ebay.
I had to build a PC for my uncle who doesn't have one and each of your tips is useful !
Keep doing what you do (& you like), lots of support from France.
This is my kind of content
Great vallue and pretty much what I use when people need a pc.
I bought a pc like this at a fleamarket for 10 and my buddy now has a great extra pc :)
I had something similar a couple weeks ago. Got a donor workstation that was "broken." Popped in a new SSD and loaded Windows 10. Took me 20 minutes to clean, install, and post it for sale locally. It was gone less than an hour later. I love older pcs.
I prob don't look hard enought but never find a cheap one worth grabbing like these but great vid never the less !
Loving the content featuring older hardware. I think some folks may find it surprising how capable certain older pieces of tech can still be with proper care and pairing them with the right components. Keep it coming!
I think maybe once or twice a month you could do one of these and give the episode a catchy name. Great for older people to surf, shop, etc.
I am really enjoying the new series. It's educational but also informative for maybe people wanting to start flipping PC's
im enjoying seeing you get these old machines up and running looking forward to the next one
I just took a chance like you and got a MSI AM4 motherboard being sold As-Is.... and just like you, got a great deal! was able to complete a rebuild for a fraction of the price!
This is why for the longest time my gaming rig was an old Optiplex with a 4770K I swiped from a local used computer store. Only thing I had to do was upgrade the graphics card now and again. Now it has be retired to server duty.
Boom. THIS is the video I was hoping for when I suggested something similar. Def Cool to see how some of the workstation rigs perform and what hardware to keep, and what hardware to dispose of. having that low profile 4060 is DOPE to have laying around to push these little PC's to their limits.
Love these kind of videos, keep it up!
Hey Greg, I absolutely love these videos. It’s always nice to see what problems there are out there. Fab playlist
I love these cheap PC videos... keep them coming! It's nice to see that people can build a intro gaming PC for super cheap... especially since my first gaming PC was a workstation that I added a discreet graphics card.
What a beast of a CPU, I owned my 3770K WAY longer than any other CPU. Just continued to work for gaming even until I upgraded to a Ryzen 3700X when I updated to get more cores.
More of these! Fun to see how old stuff works together with newer stuff
pretty cool. keep doing them they are educational in their own way
Excellent video showing the potential of these budget pcs! this is a great series and i would recommend to keep it going 👍
I love these old pre-built systems. A co worker gave me an old Dell that she said did not work. When I turned it on, it would give beep codes, which turned out to be a memory fault. I removed one of the sticks and it works fine. Its only 4GB RAM, so I dont really want to run Windows, but I thought it would do nicely as a light duty server. I installed an SSD and Ubuntu server and shes been solid for months now without issues. I've used it as a file server and game server and its doing well. Just because its old, doesnt mean its not useful. And if it breaks, youre not out a lot of money.
i bought a Hp Elite 8300 for $27 with no storage, cpu or ram. I put an i7 3770 and 16gb ram, 512 ssd, and a rx 580. Runs great. love it. Easy build. Im learning on older stuff. Its fun to see what i can do for no that much money.
Incredible how good this CPU is. I've 3 server PCs with i5 3470's and they are great aswell. I think he 3rd gen of intel CPU's was great.
Gotta love that Greg put up a new series (or is this going to be series?) :)
Mystery machines are about the best in youtube's tech videos in overall.
I'm running an old Z820 with dual Xeon 2867(?), 128GB ECC RAM, 24TB mixed SSD/HDD, old Nvidia K5000 - it's an amazing beast, it does everything I need of it, I'm not a gamer.
pairing this with a second hand 1660 sounds like a great intro level budget build for those looking to save a buck. great vid!
Michigan here.. another great video. enjoyed it.
I really love this new theme of buying "for parts" and getting them back to working machines.
Great vid Greg as always. You are getting lucky here with these - as a tinkerer of old systems I often get these kind of PCs given to me and the fault is almost ALWAYS a bricked motherboard. I've now a box of various sticks of perfectly working ddr3, 2 and 4 core CPUs and 300W power supplies now :/
It's enjoyable to watch old systems being saved for the landfill. Keep up the series.
I love these videos imo it shows how old hardware keeps some of its value for those on a budget
Hello fellow pc builders and gamers
Working on a build I have 4 i7 7th generation CPUs need motherboards and cases I have everything else got for free 😁👍
I just picked up a Dell 7910 off Fleabay. Arrived in 3 days and in excellent shape. Has DUAL Intel 2699 2.6Ghz 18 Core Xeons (36 total with 72 virtual), 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD and a 4GB Dual Monitor Video Card. $400 with free shipping. KILLER SYSTEM. Next I'll upgrade the RAM to 128GB for another $75. :)
im impressed that you got that good results on that oldie
Thanks for including some games this time around!
love your videos Greg, but definitely can you do a Linux Distro install on one of your pc's, even pc's bought from Ebay? it would help your audience a lot and make them learn Linux as well. I recommend Pop OS, and Nobara for Gaming PC's. love your work and I hope I get to see some form of Linux on this channel one day
(and also, like what just happened, no more annoying windows update interruptions too)
Absolutely loving the hair, Greg!
Hi Greg. just an FYI the term 'Workstation' alludes to the build quality not necessarily the performance. They are built with the best components and are massively overbuilt, especially the power supply. For years my daily driver was a surplus Z420 ($220 six years ago) with a 6 core Xeon E5-1650 V2 and 32GB of 1866 ECC memory with a stock 600W power supply. With XTU that 'beast' will overclock to 4.1Ghz all day long. The GPU was a GTX1660TI which paired really well with it and yes, I used a 6 into 8 adapter which worked perfectly. Old HP workstations are an excellent way to get performance on the cheap. My old Z420 is now the house NAS.
Before anyone tells me you can't overclock an old Xeon E5-1650V2 look it up. The V1's and the V2's could be overclocked. Intel removed the ability on the V3 and the HP motherboards had no BIOS option for overclocking but XTU ran just fine.
Man those tiny mini cards are cute as hell... I want one just to put it on my desk somewhere
Love the content. I had a old Sony Viao that was one of the first "Liquid Cooled" computers. That was the marketing I remember. It was a fun computer.
These very cheap finds are awesome, Love watching these videos and you showcasing that you dont need a high end pc to run top title games.
greg,
what are you entering in the search bar when looking for these PC's? love these vids!
Love all your series, but watching older cheap systems surviving into today is really awesome. Kudos sir.
Glad you like them!
It was an older expensive system.
Am really liking this series. Maybe u can do a video on building a budget PC with used parts with the current market?
I worked in IT for 20+ years, and have always built my own PC's. A couple of years back I finally decided to replace my VERY old gaming PC, but when I started pricing everything up I realised that multiple factors all happening at once in the world had meant CPU's, motherboards, and graphics cards were all ridiculously overpriced at the time. So as a stop gap measure I picked up a second hand HP Z230 with a i7 4770 in it for next to nothing. I've since stuffed a second hand 6gb GTX 1060 in it (That still cost more than the PC !!!), 32gb of DDR3, a couple of 1tb SSD's setup on the built in controller as a striped raid 0 array, and a 4tb mechanical storage drive.
For an several gen old PC that was thrown together from used parts that cost less than I'd usually spend on just a new graphics card, it's turned into a reasonably capable machine. It certainly runs all my favourite 5 to 25 year old games without issue, and many of them are happy with the graphic set to max.
I had an i7 3770k for almost 10 years in which it saw several graphics cards, gtx 560, 770 and finally 970 before it was replaced this year by an i9 and a 4090. The i7 was the longest used cpu I ever had and it'll remain here with the gtx 970 as kinda memorial to all the years it served me very well. XD
Wow that was really lucky having i7 in the system instead of the i5! That system is more powerful than what I have, I wish I could get one for myself. Great content Greg, keep the videos coming! I learned a lot with your fix or flop videos but I kinda miss your deep cleaning sessions. Peace out and rock on bro!
i always wanted to build a old thinkstation but everyone around me wants to much always fun to see you turn them into gaming rigs
Love these videos, you do such a great job.
I love these kinds of videos, those old pc makes me feel nostalgic, I have my first PC with same i7 3770 CPU, and it is still working fine. Keep making these eBay videos!😊
Keep finding builds like that Keep producing good videos Good Luck ❤❤
This is absolutely fun to watch these mystery pc's. If I had more room in my space I'd dabble in this but alas I already have way too many and not enough space for what I have now.
I recently bought a similar rig at about the same price that I threw an old harddrive into and installed ubuntu on that I use as my workshop-pc. It's perfect for that as my workshop is NOT the ideal enviroment for electronics as I dabble in metalwork, carpentry, pottery, resin casting and keeping my yard-equipment and cars running
Former HP tech here. Those usually use Quadro video cards, that's why the 6-pin power. HPs, Dells, Lenovos and similar, don't generally use K-unlocked CPUs. 3770k, for example, wouldn't be supported. Some boards may work with it, but not all - and overclocking isn't gonna happen. I had one board out of my 6 HPs run a 3770k, and it was still locked at it's non-K counterpart's speed. Video cards can be upgraded, sure, but the motherboard chipset isn't really geared for gaming and will run hot. You'll need to cool some other chips. The PSU looks like a normal HP-issued PSU, as though the unit was ordered with a higher Quadro card that was later removed.
Just thought I'd help a bit. :)
Nice, you found a little gem! Recently bought an i7 3770 to resurrect my girlfriend’s dad’s old gaming pc (he’s got a founders GTX 980). Good value!
system builder of almost 26 years now and i say start them when they are young...my son built his first computer when he was 5 with some help from me but that lead him into the world of computers and online gaming and actually going pro playing CSGO...i loved the fact that he was able to travel world wide and live in team houses and picking him up/dropping off at the airport...computers will open a world of opportunities...get your kids involved greg as soon as you think they are ready...
I used to own an I7 3770(K) as my 1st gaming PC.
That thing ran well. and now my cousin has a 3770K as his first gaming PC. however, I passed down my 3770k to my little sister as her first.
it's a great starter PC to have.
Nice video! These are always interesting to watch
Glad you like them!
Great Job Greg!
Great video Greg! I like to see how old cpu are actually still very relevant today.
Nice... liking this new series