Every Fantastic Beasts Pitch Meeting In Chronological Order
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
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0:00 Fantastic Beasts And Where To Find Them Pitch Meeting
4:46 Fantastic Beasts The Crimes Of Grindelwald Pitch Meeting
10:35 Fantastic Beasts The Secrets of Dumbledore Pitch Meeting
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For those of you who don't know, Ryan tweeted that he has covid and he couldn't make the new pitch meeting. It's really nice of him to put these pitch meetings together❤
Agreed, I hope that Ryan gets better soon, hopefully Doctor Strange will be up and running next week.
Thanks for the heads up. Hope he's feeling better soon.
Hopefully he gets better soon
I heard that recovering from covid is actually super easy, barely an inconvenience!
Oh I didn't know that.
In the books, Voldemort would milk Naginni to help him stay alive. Now that shes a human woman, that seems even more uncomfortable....
…😳!!!! My dear heavens, they can’t invent mind bleach fast enough for me so I can unlearn this… 😝
They just gave up and stopped trying haha
Milking a snake means you draw out it's venom from the teeth. Nothing to do with what you might thing when you first hear the term
@@johnmihelis1699 well in a concept drawing of a weakend Voldemort with his mouth on of what appears to be two boobs on a snake with nipples. So it's very . . .
. . .
. . .
. . . um. odd.
@@johnmihelis1699 well Nagini depicted as big snake like boa constrictor or python, so might be no venom from her teeth...
So the Canada thing was a reference from the first pitch? Wow, props to Ryan to have a better continuity than the movies.
Poutine is Tight!!
he's actually talked about warner brothers wanting to buy canada before too
@@alabamaman1372 And delicious. I should know because I'm Canadian.
Keep your damn voice down
@@RCDW as a Canadian, I politely disagree. It's not terrible, but it's heavy and the cheese curds never are just the right amount of melted.
To be fair...Dumbledore telling someone to do something without explaining why they need to do it or why he can't do it himself is pretty on brand.
Telling someone to do something without explaining why they need to do it or why he can't do it himself is tight!
Most of the time it’s for a good reason
@@three-moons6036like a pig to the slaughter
@@three-moons6036 Lol, yes. The reason is that the story would be over if he explained.
@@three-moons6036in real life, no, there would be absolutely no reason most of the time lol. Dumbledore was a shitty person on further examination.
I’m still waiting for the day he finally says “actually it’s gonna super difficult, an extreme inconvenience”
There's a meeting where he says something like "Actually... yeah"
@@CharroArgentino Know which one?
@@richardbechtol1721 In the Man of Steel one they do: ruclips.net/video/3vWAeqedxLk/видео.html
@@richardbechtol1721 He did in the Spider-Man Homecoming Pitch Meeting: ruclips.net/video/MbmTMEYnEzo/видео.html
@@Starionn thanks, I’ll check it out!
I love how as the movies progress, the Fantastic Beasts seem to get even less plot relevance than before.
The plot of the 3rd one astounds me. It's like, you can write the entire plot on the back of a ketchup sachet. And yet the film is 2 and a half hours long!
Little wink to the Fast & Furious franchise
Really the only think that’s consistent about the movies is Ryan’s Canada running gag
Cash grabs ALWAYS work that way.
🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨
Exactly! I was fine with the first one as a stand alone Film.
Hell, if they wanted to expand on it, I could have been more accepting had They not felt the need to then connect to the larger Harry Potter series.
Keep it in that universe, fine...makes sense. However, stick to THAT only and create new characters and adventures with the occasional Easter Egg or whatever that reminds people it is still Harry Potter's universe just not his story.
But they could not help themselves.
Perfect. 17 minutes and 51 seconds is about as much time as I'm willing to invest in these movies
Only the first one's interesting, so you're doing the right thing in ignoring the other ones... They're trash. 🗑️
@@poeticdavide 3rd one was pretty solid imo but 2nd was shit
@@nd-31570 the 4th one is amazing but the first 3 are absolute garbage
@@lord_wyran 4th one? Huh? And I thought you said the first one was good
@@nd-31570 think you need to reread the comments bruh
''Run guys I got this' and then immediately she does not got this'
'Did she at least buy them some time?'
'Not at all'
😂 So done with these unnecessary 'heroic sacrifices'.
But she's totally got this...right up until she doesn't.
This fucking killed me HAHAHAHAH
Eh, that whole movie was crap from the word "go". Still don't understand the baby swapping plot.
Piccolo: "Alright, I've got this."
Nail: "Whoa, no you don't!"
I like how the heroic sacrifice is parodied in Bumblebee (2018) [⚠SPOILER⚠]: There's a small swarm of misguided military vehicles chasing down Bee with bad intentions, but Memo says I'll buy you some time with these guys, then stands in the middle of the road with his hand out like a traffic cop... and then when they don't stop he crouches to a vertical fetal position and is less effective than the girl that starts illegal street races.
I still maintain that the Qilin should have bowed in front of Jacob, as opposed to Dumbledore, since they made a big deal about him being pure of heart.
I agree, any scriptwriter with a semblance of common sense would've realised that kneeling in front of Jacob would've made far more sense.
Yes, I don't know why they didn't do it its barley and inconvenience
yeah, when it kneeled in front of Dumbledore I couldn't help but loudly protest in the theater, that went against the whole point of the movie, especially since they hammered the fact that DUmbledore is not a good person, the dude was throwing Avada Kedavras at his borther and killed his sister...
@@erberlon there were multiple people in our theater audibly going “oh” 😭😭
Either Dumbledore found a way to mind control it ot it wasn't gauging purity all along, it was gauging politicality.
Dang, kneeling in front of Jacob to show that a Muggle can be pure hearted would have been tight!
Jacob would have been the best president of magic.
well if he did become the president then that would given reason for the death eaters to grew so large. with a muggle president all the closeted muggle-haters will now start coming out because now "they have gone too far this time".
😂😂😂😂😂
These movies really go from “Fun Magical Creatures in America” to “The Dumbledore and Grindelwald Show”
also credence
Man... Damn, a TV show centered around Fantastic Beasts could've been super tight. I mean it basically writes itself plus cliches like "monster of the week" fit perfectly without detracting from creativity. (which is hella rare)
Wizard Steve Irwin, how hard is that
That would’ve been great! The book really does lend itself to a monster of the week format, since every chapter just covers a different magical creature. It would’ve been nice to see Newt just traveling around the world and researching magical beasts. But instead we got this.
Seriously tho, the Harry Potter generation is also the generation that grew up with Pokémon mania?
Ya'know, the powerful magical creatures you can fit into small spaces and carry around with you & befriend? (That is also currently the most profitable franchise in the world)
This IP concept was ripe for making bank off of that generation and even other fans of series like Yo-Kai or Monster Hunter ALONGSIDE the already established Potter Fanbase.
But then JK had to go and be stupid and make it all about weird wizard politics, awfully written romances, too many nothing side-characters and World War II...
Yup! But they could not resist the mediocre idea of connecting it to the larger Harry Potter Story instead of creating new characters and adventures that only very rarely remind you through a subtle object, event, or Easter Egg that you are still in the Potterverse but on an entirely different story with no crossover
There is absolutely nothing i'd like to NOT se more of then Newt. What an absolutely boring and uninspired character. Jsut bury the whole fantastic beasts franchise please and let HP go back to its roots.
"Hey can I ask you something?"
"Of course"
"What the hell's goin' on?"
"Exactly"
"Right"
Not sure where I'd be in my life without Pitch Meetings hahaha
This was my favorite part too
"So the former auror adores the foreigner?"
Oh Ryan, tongue twisters are tight! Hope you feel better soon!
I hear "for-bin-er"
... Yours makes more sense
"The former Auror's an Auror once more??" 😂
Similar to the Rural Juror joke on “30 Rock”
@@superboyjrv she's a former former Auror now
Honest to God, I watch like one movie a year, but since I've discovered Pitch Meetings I want to watch all the movies just to enjoy Ryan's jokes more. I freakin' love this series.
Pitch meetings are tight
@@phen0mejon99 yea yea yea
It's amazing how this format just never gets old or unfunny. Long may it continue :D
Just watch the Pitch meetings, they are better than the movies anyway.
Not watching movies isn't tight.
"So, Grindelwald's gonna use dark magic to control this pinecone-deer thing!"
"Oh, he's gonna use the Imperius Curse?"
"No, he kinda forgot that's a thing, so he's gonna _slit its throat_ and reanimate its corpse!"
"Oh, my God! That's seems very unnecessary!"
"It sure is, sir! Too bad he forgot Imperio is a thing!"
...
"And so we've got this magical bird following Credence around because, you know, he's gonna die!"
"Oh, an Augury? That's cool!"
"What the hell's an Augury?"
"You know, a bird that signals death is coming? We already have them in this series!"
"Never heard of it. It's a phoenix, ya dumb dummy!"
Wait, so did Neville just straight up decapitate a person at the end of Deathly Hallows??
Umm.. well, you know, “it’s complicated”; technically by then she was trapped in snake form… but otherwise, yeah, totally. “Off with her head!”
I mean Molly Weasely destroying Bellatrix was pretty hardcore too, so Neville decapitating a murderer (Nagini has definitely killed before) is...oh well I dont know
Yeah. Don't worry she was an Oriental sexy snake lady, so not really much of a loss as per JK
I got a new one: it was self-defense, nagini was about to attack ron and hermione
@@xxMpEGxx killing something that’s attacking something else is “self-defence”? This phrase you use, I do not think it means what you think it means.. 😉
Just heard the news that Ryan is sick due to covid. I hope Ryan speedy recovery and looking forward for future pitch meeting.
Just watched Dr strange 2 and can't wait to hear what Ryan has to say.
Executive: "So she wants to raise a couple of kids"
Pitcher: "Yeah yeah yeah! So she uses a tome known for irreparably corrupting whoever uses it to track down a girl from another dimension to kill her and steal her powers. Then she wants to use those stolen powers to shift into another dimension where she has children, kill her alternate self and take her place "
E: "If only there was an easier way to raise a couple of children that doesn't involve interdimensional mass murder."
PG: "Smartest man alive tells the villain how Black Bolt's powers work?"
SG: "Oh, I guess he became dumb for this particular moment"
PG: "Oh whoops!"
SG: "Whoopsie!"
PG: "But isn't it gonna be hard to defeat other members of Illuminati, especially Captain Marvel?"
SG: "Well, actually it will be super easy, barely an inconvenience"
PG: " Oh wow wow wow.......wow"
which one is Ryan again? XD I hope the other guy didn't catch it when they were meeting and going to the beach and stuff
He has a cold, he'll be fine lol
The old Kung flu as. Sweet and sour sicken
Probably already watched these, but y'know I'm gonna watch them again because I love watching these videos. Enjoying them is super easy, barely an inconvenience!!
Watching a Pitch Meeting compilation Video is tight!
@@Kelenae yeah yeah yeah 😎💪
Enjoying Ryan's Pitch Meeting content is t'o'ight!
3:18 “Using magic to explain logical inconsistencies is tight!”
Harry Potter in a nutshell.
I am still in love with how Ryan's overall delivery and cadence changed throughout the years. It is apparent in the latest Fantastic Beasts we see here. He seems more and more into it.
Very few people can take 3 videos that I have already seen, slap them together into one big video and end up with me rewatching the whole thing in one shot and here's a new one to add to the list.
Yeah, I think those past jokes about buying Canada were some of the most funny.
Now and then i still find myself saying. "Oh,no! That would ruin the poutine."
They need to keep the buy Canada thing in more pitches. More poutine references!
Threatening to set Quebec on fire hits different now. I guess Producer Guy's latest demands went unanswered.
The plans to confuse Grindelwald was so good and successful that even the audience got confused too..
Lol! Nugget Scaffolding. Saw the first one and it made that same impression on me. Thanks for taking one for the team, Ryan! Saving hours of my life.
Watching pitch meetings again in chronological order is tight!
The Jacob being elected idea was pure genius and something they should've gone with
That would've been the easy thing to do not the right thing to do.
These are so much funnier when you take into account that J.K. Rowling wrote these screenplays herself😂
it does add some weird credance to those rumors that she plagiarzed some of the ideas/themes of the originals, but it still doesnt explain how fucking nothing makes sense and the entire series seems to be devoid of an actual fucking plot
@@vissermatt1058 was that a pun?
Well it's probably hard to keep focus on scriptwriting inbetween randomly tweeting anti-trans rants.
@@mipmipmipmipmip It's almost like JK Rowling has been the same hardcore traditional feminist that she was before she even started writing HP. No one thought she had an even remotely objectionable opinion until trans people tried to target her.
Did she? well... I'll have what she's having.... it's the good stuff
It's amazing to see how the timing gets better and better. And honestly, the older ones feel little bit off just because now it's flawless while before it was "only" very nearly flawless.
NEARLY flawless? How can one be NEARLY flawless? ;)
Like this.
You know what would be a great Harry Potter movie? The story of the four founders of Hogwarts
@You're Gonna Hate This I dunno, that’s just crazy enough to work! 😆
Don't give them ideas. You know that they would ruin that too. But at least we would get to see McGonagall !
They'd just ruin it by making Slytherin mustache twirlingly evil. They need to redeem house Slytherin not make it "bad guy house" like it is in Rowling's world minus Snape
Rowling is just going to make Slytherin end up as a trans woman who later becomes Voldemort's mom
Or the marauders
I love how the characters in the scetch become more and more joyful as time goes on😂
It's because they're closer and closer to their goal of buying Canada
Yeah you can nicely see Ryan's style progressing
mad. not joyful, mad
Feel better buddy. During this insane time your videos definitely give me a reason to laugh
Doesn't the fact that, when the cases were switched and an animal escaped, mean that Newt turned the muggle setting OFF after getting through customs? 🤔
Why the hell would he do that?
because there's not enough space in the case for all the creatures and his clothes at the same time for a longer period of time. Or because magic, probably.
@@Dave1507 So is it gonna be hard to carry six boggarts twelve socks two pairs of gym shorts and a niffler in there?
@@finitedeus5629 actually.......
@@finitedeus5629 maybe, maybe not, how would i know?
@@Dave1507 dang it, for some reason I thought it might be super easy.
I like how his voice deepens on the last one. His new style becomes more apparent. 😀
Pitch meetings are tight!
But really, I hate the fact that the deer thing kneels in front Dumbledore so much. I mean I don't say he is a bad but he did some at least questionable things in the original movies. You can argue that is was necessary, or at least a little more complex. Fine. But soooo pure of heart, better than anyone?
I think what made his character interesting was that he wasn't just "good" and much more complex.
But I think J.K. Rowling wants him to be, and simply dosn't care if is contradicts her writing. And I think that dosn't send a good message. It feels more like a, "If someone is known to be the good guy or the authority, than the person is right, even if some thing leave a bad taste in your mouth" kinda thing.
This is young Dumbledore - before he turned a deathtrap into a school and established the tradition of telling the students all they ways they could die at the welcome-ceremony.
@@Shuizid but after he made a blood pact with his super evil lover and plotted a scheme to enslave muggles for the greater good. dumbledore was never pure of heart.
@@Shuizid ...you do know that Dumbledore wasn't one of the four founders of Hogwarts, right?
@@shraddhamahapatra8385 Oh right, I forgot. Still though, he didn't exactly seem to bother cleaning up their mess either.
@@Shuizid He was already manipulative towards newt. He didn't even tell him what he really wanted him to do, and why. I pushes people like chess pieces thinking that he has the right, because he knows what he is doing and it will work out for everybody, therefore it's fine.
No it's not, I don't say he is evil but not pure of heart.
I've heard of this book before, it's the thing from the other thing. Good for it to have backstory. I can't wait for "The Travels of Hagrid and Madame Maxime" or "The Detective Stories of Kingsley Shacklebolt". A sitcom "Meet the Dursleys" would be amazing too. And how about "Behind the Griffin Door" a series about funny stories from Dumbledore's times as the Headmaster, could be a sitcom too.
""Behind the Griffin Door" a series about funny stories from Dumbledore's times as the Headmaster,"
Actually that one could be decent i'd rather a show of that then then these movies LOL
When you realize JK Rowling REALLY isn’t a screenwriter
What didn't help was her mask slipping off and her fully embracing TERFdom
crab walk
And not knowing how to write a screenplay is one thing. Not being able to write a cogent plot is another completely.
You can tell she hasn't written anything but a check and transphobic tweets since the 2000s, because if this is what we get after it has had corrections from editors, I don't even wanna think about what it was like before.
These are incredible! Keep it up!
Movie recommendation: Fantastic Mr. Fox. This one is a straight acid trip
Agreed! Wes Anderson is the most creative director in Hollywood today. All of his movies are a visual trip. The Grand Budapest Hotel is my favorite.
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According to the books, Dumbledore at the time of his duel with Grindelwald was everything but purehearted, so that scene where the deer walks up to him was a really bad call.
The books dont matter for the canon of the movies
Ryan: I wanna buy Canada.
We all do Ryan.
We all do.
"Nugget Scaffolding" is BEAUTIFUL! I'll never refer to that character by his actual name again.
Holy shit... I just realized that Pitch Meetings are self contained within their specific timelines of when the movies are released. And not only that, but they are also canonically connected within franchises and/or cinematic universes. With Ryan George wearing the same wigs, or following the same ideas within the subsequent videos of a specific franchise... Meaning Ryan George is playing the same exact character/s each time. This literally means Ryan George has maybe purposely or accidentally created a PMCYTU or Pitch Meeting Cinematic RUclips Universe. 😂
And I gotta admit, I am down for this. Lol
I appreciate the tone of voice change. The later PMs have a much goofier sound to them and I love it.
How can they get married in the US at the end of the movie? The laws haven't been changed...Jacob is still a muggle...it was a major subplot in the first two movies...
Akuu, I'm going to need you to get all the way off of my back.
Did he show them his magic wand?
They can marry in a “muggle” hosted service, presumably? Being that they don’t know magic exists
Funny how in each of this pitch meetings characters become more emotional and plastic, shows Ryan's progress over the years =)
This is considered a disease in people who are not in the movie business but for those that are it’s an advantageous adaptation that demonstrates dominance
"Your writing is so fun and so good".. Is probably the funniest line in all of the pitch meetings. I wish he used it more.
Ryan has stuck to such a tight format for Pitch Meetings that he could easily subvert our expectations in a number of hilarious ways ☺️
Sticking to a Tight format of content but still being good at it is TIGHT
You can see the evolution of Ryan's comedy style over these longer compilations.
His dialogue and zingers are _tight!!_
9:25! "And then immediately she does not got this!" 😆😆😆
14:02 always kills me no matter how many times I see it
“Hey can I ask you something? What the hell is going on?”
"Nugget Scaffolding" 🤣
My most favorite part of these Pitch Meetings is the "barely an inconvenience" bit 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hey Ryan can I suggest u make a "The Princess Bride" pitch meeting?
The ad before the video was for Travel Canada.
Nice.
It's a bummer there's not a "Dr. Strange 2" video for today, since I saw the movie yesterday and I assume that's what had been planned for this week, but it's still cool you guys managed to get a video out anyway. Hope you get well soon, Ryan!
He’s got covid apparently
@@samuelhatlestad6676 Hence my saying I hope he gets well soon.
the former auror goes for the foreigner, foreshadowing the foreground and foremost Aurelius Dumbledore
Finding Fantastic Beasts is tight!
The whole switch between Johnny Depp and Mads Mikkelsen playing Grindelwald could’ve been easy to explain by adding a trait that’s been a secret up until now.
When Graves turns into Grindelwald in the first one, we all assume it was due to transfiguration or Polyjuice Potion, but what if Grindelwald was in fact a Metamorphmagus, and few people knew that except for Dumbledore, another reason Gellert fears him as well.
It wouldn’t be outside the realm of possibility for his powers to never have been discovered, as it was Albus who defeated him and it could’ve been Albus who put him away as well.
This would be sweet too if it was pre planned cause then you could’ve had a different actor play him in every movie.
Pitch guys “ I don’t know” always makes me laugh
Love pitch meetings! Keep up the good work!
@POPPY 🅥 what
For the customs scene, in the beginning shot he had the case open to check up on the animals and talked to them. Then when he was called up he muggle proofed it. He probably had it muggle proof, un proofed it, then re proofed it
"the former Auror adores the foreigner" is one hell of a tongue twister 😂
"very deep, very easy-to-edit-out-for-China, love for each other" XD
"Using magic to explain logical inconsistencies is tig..."
Is why the Harry Potter stories are full of plot holes, yet inexplicably popular.
Exactly, and the escapism ...
Please make a Pitch Meeting for The Room! I've been asking for the past two years. Hope it's been worth the wait!
Literally right after the "You don't think people are going to catch on that this is just a big cash grab? No I don't think people are that smart..." exchange I got an ad for the Secrets of Dumbledore show on HBO Max... Sometimes the universe gives you a *wink wink* *nudge nudge* that's so on the nose you just have to sit back and appreciate it...
Far more entertaining than the actual movies. ^^
@You're Gonna Hate This Because I take pride on my childchness! ^^
Every time I watch it, for some reason this always makes me laugh: “Can I ask you a question?” “Sure.” “What the hell is going on?” “Right”.
"So a wizard and a baker have the same suitcase?"
If you're trying to hide something, disguising it to look exactly like something ordinary is a good way to do that.
Great to see your new channel subscribers shooting up consistently.
"Actually it's gonna be super easy, barely an inconvenience!"
Gives me serotonin 💖🌌
Are you releasing all the Fantastic Beasts Pitch Meetings together now because you know there won't be a 4th or 5th?
Damn I expected Dr Strange in Multiverse of Madness today but that's okay. I hope you rest well, Ryan~
Or moon knight
Yeah, Covid's a bitch, at least he's not having major issues and hopefully he'll be back next week
Apparently it's because Ryan caught COVID, so he is sick and couldn't do a new Pitch Meeting episode, which is why he uploaded this instead.
@@blowc1612 does he do series too?
@@Cipher_Paul stop lying you just made that up. He didn't catch covid he had to travel to a family members graduation
Everyone: Thinks it
Pitch Meeting: Says it out loud
I like that there’s a picture of the boss in the office 😂 (usually it’s pictures of the family)
"Geez okay we'll have a cameo from Professor Mcgonagall, who's gonna be...negative 8 years old"...you literally almost made me choke on my coffee when I heard that 🤣🤣🤣
If y’all are wondering why the Doctor Strange in the MoM Pitch Meeting isn’t out yet, apparently Ryan has COVID, so maybe sometime in about a week or two it should be out. I hope he feels better, and I hope is recovery is super easy, barely an inconvenience
Im glad I found your channel thought you quit. good to see you are doing your own thing
The Pokemon resemblance he pointed out killed me.😂
2:10 I freaking laughed so hard because I have not seen the series and I'm only listening to the pitch. So when he says....whatever that word is...it did accurately sound like a dog beginning to learn English 😂
He’s saying former auror. Aurors are wizard cops
Keep up the awesome job, love the channel, and Pitch Meeting
"nugget scaffolding". That broke me.🤣
I’m so glad you made this only pitches channel
In the first pitch they should've put "Oh, growing to fill whatever space is available is tight!"
The fact he said it’s an homage to scooby doo (also made by WB) is either brilliant writing or just coincidence
Hope you feel better Ryan.Love these pitch meetings!
Ryan, your writing is so fun! So good!
I have to point out that it would actually be a pretty good idea to have a briefcase that looks like an American muggle briefcase, consideringthe statute of secrecy. You know just so long as there's some way that 1 muggles can't open the fantastic beast compartment and 2 if it gets lost you can track it.
"Why would Tina and Newt be immediately sentenced to death but not him?"
I thought that was fairly obvious. Because Grindlelwald was the one sentencing them before - clearly he doesn't care what the actual laws are.
“I don’t know how wizard laws work!” 😂😂
7:20 "negative 8 years old" Genius, love it!
thanks for the huge amount of quality you brought here!
-8 year old McGonnogal is tight!
That doesn't sound right at all!
Whoops!
Whoopsie!
The most horrifying part of the execution scene is how everybody is smiling delightedly as they prepped her for death. Creepy
"You sound like a dog that's somehow beginning to learn English." Priceless. 😀
Hey I just found your new Pitch Meeting channel. It was super easy... barely an inconvenience.
These are so well written. I start echoing "barely an inconvenience" ;-)
Do pitch meeting for * Mac And Me * please.
“…the former auror is an auror once again…”is pure gold
10:36 - when the voice reaches it final peak form