I accidentally said 1.15 i meant 1.16 ^-^ *Edit:* this was posted when I had like 6k subs, i didnt know a million people would watch it I just found it an interesting topic at the time. I love Dream, dont take this the wrong way!!
Funny enough, the mods caught him cheating on the 1.15 speedrun as well! And that one was a WR! Funnier enough, this whole statement came out right after they quietly took down his 1.15 run.
I mean the bad outcome of it is that his stans were attacking the moderators for doing their job. That's the biggest problem with all of this. Publicity stunt gone wrong.
i HIGHLY doubt it was a publicity stunt if it was dream would have planned it out and with how flawed his responses were theres no way he did this intentionally he thought he could get away with cheating and he didnt think the situation would get out of hand once it got to the point where he hired the astrophysicist he literally had no other options and had no control over the situation
@@aelphind4954I agree I dont think it was a publicity stunt. I think it was dream trying to save his image when they called him out for cheating which honestly he did a shit job at doing so. Dream knows that he wont get cancelled so he pulled out the appologie to again save his image. It was all about image, speedrun to look good, fight back and tell them their clout chasers to look serious and angry (but looking good), then pull out a appologie to look sorry (also looking good) all to his stans.
@@Afatratnamedpat i think its also wrong to look at this as him trying to save his image and focusing on the way he fought back when that really isnt important. Dream never thought he was immune to being cancelled and frankly its incredibly misguided for anyone to think he is anywhere close to immune. If dream was truly immune to being cancelled he would have admitted to cheating after people started debunking his initial response and he wouldnt have lied about it being an accident in his confession. If dream had admitted to cheating intentionally after attacking the mod team and hiring an astrophysicist his career would have been over no matter how many stans he has or how prominent a figure he is on the internet. If he had admitted it after the first response when the hate was at its peak he would have been cancelled by critics of him and his community and if he had admitted to it completely in his confession literally everyone besides around half of his stans that would still remain would see him as a sociopath, which he isnt, and his channel would decline significantly. Dream cheated because he felt he needed to get a good time on a speedrun and thought he could get away with it, and when his legitimacy was questioned, he thought he could get away with it by hiring an astrophysicist and make a response. When that didn't work, dream would have decided he wanted to admit it, but he literally couldnt at that point and had to keep defending himself. Most of the attacks on the mod team were out of desperation and his stans ended up doing way too much damage and dream couldnt get them to stop without admitting he lied, so he just kinda let the situation die down. dream didnt do the apology to look good to his stans, his stans cant see anything else in the first place so that would be unnecessary. Dream did the apology in an attempt to completely end the situation by getting the guilt off his back and apologizing to the mod team but without admitting he lied because again his career would be over if he admitted that it was intentional and that he lied the whole time. Dream was not the perpetrator in this situation, he was the victim of his own ego and mistakes. the situation didn't benefit him and there was never any point in time during this situation where the outcome was favorable to him.
I love how beluga talks about dream going viral meanwhile he makes sub 5 minute discord joke videos and he showed up on EVERYONES home page at once you went more than viral my guy, congrats
i don't think the speedrun mods getting death threats is much of a benefit. EDIT: Yooo since this popped off, I highly recommend Karl Jobst's video on this. It's reeaallly long, but I find he has the best analysis of the situation. The tldw of his video is that dream was probably being honest for the most part, but told a lot of half-truths and handled the situation unbelievably poorly, especially considering the size of his audience.
I know too little about Dream to speculate accurately, but I’d like to point out that when someone isn’t good at defending themselves from blame, it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re lying. Some people are really unskilled when it comes to persuasive language. As for motives, Occam’s Razor dictates how the more complex someone’s supposed “scheme” looks, the less likely it is to have occurred. Simple answers are often most likely correct, especially if we’re speculating about what’s in someone’s head This isn’t a defense per se, but your argument lacks substance
@@aelphind4954 🌟POSITIVITY🌟 DEATH TREATS TO MODS 🌟POSITIVITY🌟 MAKING THOUSANDS OF STANS GOING AFTER MODS 🌟POSITIVITY🌟 SO MUCH POSITIVITY!!! HOLSHIT I GOT ALMOST 200 LIKES HOLYYDGFUITB so i GOT 200 likes, ty guys
this is what i wanna hear, we shouldnt judge people based on one action. its like someone keeps complimenting u and u dont remember it but when they lie once then u criticize them and that isnt right
the fact that he admited to cheating was nice, but then said "oh i did it accidentally im such a victim" that made me lose all hope on him, like wtf man just admit it
@@sunswhispering506 Btw this is the guy Karl Jobst talked about in his video when he mentioned these dumb response videos. This guy literally doesn't even know which speedrun caused the drama lmao
I don’t care if Dream cheated in his speedruns. Do you know why I don’t care? That’s because there’s one thing that isn’t fake, and that is the mlgs he does.
The only problem is that - there's a lot of ways to make your content fun and entertaining, and there are areas where you should just simply respect the boundary - and he chose to disrespect a system just to share a very "wholesome" content and entertainment. That's like entering a simple running contest but you managed to have a roller blades, compete and tell everyone "just love me, fuck the rules, it's for entertainment and you got it!"
@@Dumbsourplum Not really, if you truly are following his recent rants and excuses (which is extremely dumb) He finally realized that HE THINKS he cheated but "not sure how" and he really got nothing to apologized for, let's just move on, thank you for the spotlight. If you think I'm making this up, go check all of his recent rantings, esp that very long, early morning bathroom "confession".
@@Dumbsourplum that's exactly what he "wasn't sure" with lol - a very lame, poor attempt to tell people that he made an oopsie - considering he managed to specifically remember and identify it after all the drama, even hired a harvard astrophysicist that supposed to defend him but ended up questioning his method, and the rest of the world set their eyes on him and when there's nowhere to run, he just finally revealed it but won't admit it and definitely won't be sorry about it - all he really wanted is those money views, enforced people to simply forget it and love him and just move on. Let's not joke ourselves here - no matter how we see this through, he already made a profit out of it, and with his zealous fan base, he can (sadly speaking) afford to do anything: right or wrong, he exactly knows that at the end of the day, people will simply forgive him and that he can still repeat this scandal anytime he wants now for easy money.
"I cheated to gain fame, but I will call it an accident even though it's actually a part of my masterplan and I've studied the youtube algorithm to know what's going viral and what's not and now I got 25 mil views on the vid along with 2 mil+ subs." ~ Dream
@@ShauryaHallow yet the one which was cheated on gave his speedrun vids a boost, so to his sub count. This was all for publicity so similar content was more relevant and was recommended to others by the yt algorigthm.So be it "Indirectly", dream did get boost cause of a vid he didnt even post, but due to controversy instead :)
7:22 Beluga: "holding a speed running world record for the most popular game in the world is extremely lucrative, and it would totally make sense why he would want to obtain it" While this statement holds true, the method which Dream obtained this "record" wasn't authentic, as he used cheats, whether intentional or not. I agree with the fact that Dream most likely done this for more attention and popularity, making his video not under the typical "fake speedrun" with the intention of breaking the world record with the use of cheats, but more of a "Entertainment speedrun" with the intention of using cheats to entertain an audience and gain a better reputation. However, to majority of the Minecraft community, the definition of Minecraft speedrunning would be to defeat the Ender Dragon within the shortest time possible *without* cheats, and Dream obviously broke that rule. I must reiterate that he (probably) did the "speedrun" for entertainment purposes only, but by claiming that it was a speedrun (as stated in his video's title), people would assume that his speedrun was done without any form of cheating. I would like to add the fact that speedrunning is not something which people take lightly, and is treated so seriously to the point some even take it as a career. Hence, people who spent years mastering this art suddenly seeing a youtuber who doesn't even specialise in it beating the world record would utterly shock them, causing it to be brought under intense scrutiny by the speedrunning committee, subsequently leading to Dream being exposed. What worsens the situation is that Dream, while knowing that a speedrun was to be done without cheats, still posted the video, claiming that it was a "speedrun that broke the world record". Assuming that he did indeed cheat intentionally, it shows how he blatantly ignores that fact that a speedrun was meant to be done without cheats, as he shamelessly goes on to acclaim himself as the speedrun record holder, despite knowing that he deliberately used unconventional methods to do so. This would seriously put his moral values into question, as he considers entertaining a crowd to be more important than playing fairly and legitimately. While it indeed is crucial for youtubers to find new and aspiring ways to entertain their viewers, this must be done practically and honestly, and without the use of cheats and deceit. The fact that he still attempts to cover up for himself by claiming it was unintentional would further show how he desperately defends himself, refusing to confess the truth in an attempt to save his reputation, further showing his lack of proper moral values (supposing he did intentionally cheat). However, on the other hand, if he indeed had not cheated and this was merely an accident, he indeed does have the right to feel indignant and defend himself against the constant attacks. Understandably, Dream, being a popular youtuber with a high reputation, would refuse to admit to using unorthodox methods to break a world record, which (probably) wasn't even his aim in the first place. He merely wanted to do so for entertainment purposes only, whether he cheated intentionally or not. However, that is not to say his response to the criticism made the situation worse. Swallowing his pride may be a tough thing for him to do, but had he done so, he would not be gunned down for his denial of purposeful cheating. However, Dream simply could not bear admitting to doing something which he (supposedly) did not do, as he fears losing his popularity and fame. This pressure results in him giving more of a "grey area" response, where he hoped it cause minimal damage to his reputation while satisfying (most) of the public. While it remains debatable if his response was for the best, I feel that he found the most suitable way out of the situation, as we now see less discussion over the topic and no decrease in his overall trend of viewers, likes, and subscribers. Nevertheless, all in all, find the odds of Dream not intentionally cheating to be extremely low. Dream did not have any solid evidence to back up his claim of not cheating, and even if the drop rates being altered were really unintentional, just who really did alter them? What were the possibilities that someone intentionally hacked Dream and altered his drop rates, and who would have done that? Hence, from my (assumed) conclusion that Dream did indeed cheat, I emphasise one final time that no matter what the circumstances or the purpose, it does not justify Dream breaking rules, especially if he know them. (Come on, Dream's a youtuber, so he obviously knows the rules of speedrunning. And he definitely knows what people would infer from the title "Minecraft Speedrun World Record 1.15")
All of us know he's just making this video for subs from those Stan's. Obviously this kid doesn't know how speedrunning community works and that dream shared photoshopped screenshots of all his mods (some are legal). And then suddenly, he says he *accidentally* did it. Kid should be totally banned from gaming. Imagine I go to a eSports event, cheat, earn a f*ck ton of money for everyone to just know that I cheated, and stay rich for life. Not only that, he launched personal attacks on the moderation team on twitter and ordered his Stan's to harass them.
The fact that beluga Is speedrunning RUclips also like dream is interesting! Edit - Dabo life copied my comment and got 1k more likes than me just because he is verified. I will one day be verified and beat him in likes... God bless Edit 2 - my main channel reached 100 subs 😀 Edit 3 (by spaZn1c in replies) - I'VE REALISED LITERALLY NO ONE CARES.
Speedrunning became way more popular cuz of dream if he hadn't done speedruns then the speedrunning community would still be small and wouldn't have gained so much attention as today
@@suedetree970 you do know Dreams fanbase isn't the only one and to be honest not the only toxic one, there is so many toxic Minecraft fanbase. But I will admit the fact that they were sending death threats is honestly just dumb.
“Oh no I accidentally didn’t notice my mod was installed, and that the drop rates I got were of 1 in 7.5 trillions, since I don’t speedrun that often I couldn’t have noticed it, oh and obviously I insulted who accused me and didn’t even think for a second that my *mod to get better drop rates for the only two most important items to speedrun Minecraft* could have been activated after I’ve been told that my drop rates were of 1 in 7.5 trillion”
@@ogaboga6496 thats not the point the point is he “accidentally” used a mod that increased his 1/1.7 trillion drop rates to a point where he could get it reasonably
@@ogaboga6496 dream cheated and is a liar. 99.99% of content creators would get cancelled. But not dream. He has a brainwashed stan army. The only reason that his fan base believes the outrageous and blatantly stupid and nonsensical claims that he makes is that they are all 8 year olds without an ounce of critical thinking or reason. The year is 2021. 2021!!!!!!!!! We live in the era of information. It scares me about how many people jump in and believe lies like this.
Here’s my theory: I mean if he did want to gain publicity AND preserve his own reputation, he hadn’t done a very good job at it. Some people started looking down at him and his ‘stan’ community. His credibility had declined. If making speed running vids make publicity then he would have gained publicity from his speed run either way whether if he actually cheated or not. But he did cheat. So why go through the trouble of cheating when your speed run would have gained popularity either way? The answer is simple: it’s like what Karl Jobst, an experienced speed runner of 007 games, said, ‘People (who speed run) don’t cheat for a faster time, they cheat to get a time faster.’ So I believe Dream got way too sick to put in the bother to actually speed run. And although he wasn’t a professional speed runner, that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be heavily engaged in it. He did complain many times before how hard it was to speed run in the new Minecraft update. Edit: Someone mentions the fact that it could have been an accident. If this was true, surely Dream would have admitted that he did and tried to clear the air as soon as he could. But no. Instead he tried defending himself by using his fan base to verbally attack anyone who denounces him. He even went his way to hire an astrophysicist. Remember this went on for a year. What I don’t get is why wait for about a year then admitted that you did cheat when everyone is tired already? Edit 2: Quick update, after watching Karl Jobst’s video it turns out Dream did in fact cheat on accident because he wanted to make content making better for him when doing single player speed runs by using mods as well as a plugin for his manhunt videos. When he hired the developer, Dream forgot to tell him that he only wanted increased drop rates for multiplayer meaning he had to modify the plugin only, but the developer accidentally did it for the mod as well meaning without Dream’s knowledge, Dream went on to do the speed runs without even knowing that mistakes were made, which made sense why Dream fought so hard to defend himself. He only found out this a month ago when the developer decided to open after months of waiting since s/he was scared to tell Dream after the mistake since they thought they could lose their job.
A lot of influencers do this. They’ll say they didn’t do something when people start to accuse then later make a “IM SORRY I LIED” which makes them more views and money.
@@hermannschapanski6254 I'm pretty sure they didn't mean in that sense, besides they never said anything about mistakes it's completely okay to make mistakes but lying about it and then coming out as sry I lied does seem kinda weird especially when this happens repeatedly.
@@hermannschapanski6254 Do you mind telling us about your kind ya know the dream stans what kind of food do they eat or how long they sleep also this situation been going on for months and just now he said ah yes let me check my mod folder that's highly unlikely
Yeah 'Minecraft speedrunner' not 'professional Minecraft speedrunner', one of his videos is literally called Minecraft speedrunner vs PRO, which implies that he in fact is not a Professional
Dudes, its content with the target demographic of minors. The titles/thumbnails are just to get as many clicks as possible, exactly like Beluga does in this video
i know you didnt say it was dreams fault for his fans sending death threats to the mods and people that were hating on him but, dream is not responsible for his fans actions, he publicly told all his fans too not hate anyone involved. he doesnt dm all his fans telling them to send death threats n stuff
@@mowbeep4142 then what was the point of your comment? it was never explicitly said it was dreams fault. the death threats still happened, and the toxic fans are to blame.
@@NoWayAroundIt_ didnt he kindof make a video defending his stans? i mean hes not all to blame but he could have done with like condemning it (actually he might have i dont check twitter) and not make a video defending them kindof
I personally think that cheating on Speedrun is a great sign of disrespect to all of the talented and hard working people out there and faking one to gain popularity is a disgusting move
@@steveselvin8699 It's exactly what he's saying in this video. Basically, Dream wanted to become popular, so he did something that got him negative attention. However, negative attention is still attention, and it still made him a lot more popular in the end. "It don't matter if they hate you if they all say your name"
Ye. RUclips should follow throw on their guidelines and remove misleading content same for all other social media platforms. Actually they should remove the creator too even if they are as large as dream. Same rules for everyone!
@@mastershroob the problem is, he has such a massive stan base that he can easily manipulate into doing anything. He'd practically go to war with youtube with them :/
So you're saying lying and tricking his audience for views and monetary success is acceptable? I'm a little bit worried that you have such standards, hopefully you don't apply this thought process to your youtube career.
even if it was an ‘accident’ he still doubled down when people found out. he always gave me bad vibes, and usually a toxic fanbase stems from the creator themself. but this combined with the trumpie stuff is really the nail in the coffin for me.
I am no Dream apologist, but I wanna point out that plenty of people doxxed Dream and threatened his life too. People even tried to dox and threaten his FAMILY. You can find toxic people literally anywhere.
The hypocritical and blatantly ignorant position of criticizing a creator for ‘protecting’ his fans is ridiculous and a trope that seemingly ALL of you guys use almost perfectly consistently and it’s completely invalid because YOU and I could never know the intention and therefore have no direct input to make a basis for claim off of and ruins the possibility of a missed intention and would then put you in the position of an apathetic hypocrite
But like yeah sure he may do it for "entertainment" but still he subbmitted the fricking runs. Thats what matters. All hes doing now is backpedaling till he gets out of the situation.
I love how you absolutely ignored the fact that he DID Accidentally have the mod on because he had it on for Manhunt and didn't realise it also effected his speedruns
“If he did cheat it doesn’t mean that he’s a bad person or doesn’t deserve his subscribers” yes it absolutely does. If you fake a world record just for some internet points you don’t deserve them and you’re a bad person because you have essentially robbed skilled players of a record they wanted
@@dolphinxd7276 You know, if you say about a person who lied to you that he's honest because he admitted it, you either blind, or naive, or stupid. Or all of them.
Tbh….idc if he cheated I enjoy his content and i still think he’s a good guy He stopped speedrunning, he only does manhunts (again,idc if he cheated in the manhunts,its entertaining and fun to watch) I’ll still continue watching his content and his friends content as long as they don’t turn out to be bad people
To be honest, I think the fans were behind the threats and harrasments regarding Mods, so on one side, I may believe Dream, as he had nothing to do with the threats - Though people have told me Dream forgot to delete or turn off a mod for Minecraft during the Speedrun, and others have told me he cheated on accident (I'm not really sure who to trust here: this whole controversy is just hella complicated)
@@slicelol5223 Mostly, yeah: however there have been allegations surrounding death threats to Speedrun Mods presumably sent by Dream.. I'm not really sure who to believe here, since this whole situation is just so complicated.
the mod was on too cheat in the manhunts to make them look better but the manhunts arent that important and are mostly used for entertainment he forgot too turn off the mods from the man hunts and he didnt send death threats to any of the mods and told his fans to not send them death threats either, he simply sent a response and insulted them for how they were mistaking him for cheating
Cheating regardless of the reason still makes him a shitty person. Regardless of why, he was willing to take all the effort the legit runners sacrificed and threw it in the trash for simple publicity. That’s pretty shitty
@@nasalspray8753 “it’s just the hustle”- I mean yeah but does that mean the Cartel aren’t bad people? Sure they are chopping up children but they get paid to do it. “It’s just the hustle”
I never said he wasn't a bad person for it, but he isn't going around and killing people or whatever he's just faking a speedrun. there are different situations where it's fine. this is one of those situations where it's fine. The cartel are way different than dream taking up someones time imo
what i think happened with dream is that he got something better than he could have ever imagined- he got stans and was able to ride the controversy wave to even more subscribers as epolpe made videos on it- he would get mentioned and get even more attention until the situation died down to some measly coals, but as soon as it died down dream recognized this and brought in his apology card to both A. revive his reputation, and B. the topic at hand and continue to gain subs off of it he hit it at the perfect time where people were forgetting but the topic was still available to be brought back up again. in the end dream is an entertainer- i do not approve of what he did and will refuse to like his for that if you like him i really dont care its fine if you like his content but dont go around saying he was legit bc he himself said that he cheated.
Yeah but i still find it funny how he went from "im a professional speedrunner" and fans saying he was the best, too his fan saying "he never said he was a speedrunner, hes a entertainer no more no less"
Even if he is cheating or not, I *really* don't care! All of his videos are amazing and he is always cheering me up. So I *don't care* if he is cheating or no. All it matters is that he makes us happy and help us with his own unique way to get over of our life problems! I rll love him and I hope he is never going to stop making those amazing videos! :)
It’s even more challenging to grow a channel with a name such as Dream. Before his channel, searching for Dream on RUclips would reveal a lot of videos that would have quite a lot of views for some of them, which is very hard to burry! Now I know Dream needed a name that everybody would easily remember, because this would help him becoming famous, so choosing such a name was useful for him but also making the channel start a bit more difficult than if he used a bit more original name. But he definitely calculated all of that stuff, there is truely no freaking way this randomely happens!
@@bentleyvos you can make tons of views just talking about Dream. But I think his video is one of the most interesting ones about Dream's fake speedruns.
@@calculite3142 actually the fact that raises suspicion on his speedruns does not apply in manhunts that much.. besides i have watched karl jobst's documentary on this and the fact that dream cheated is less likely now (edit : to be clear i am not a dream fan and believed he cheated a few months ago )
Tbh this beluga guy was biased and way to forgiving, because as he said dream is his fave YTber so from a neutral standpoint he is wrong. Lying to people and taking advantage of others for your own good isn’t a “publicity strategy” or something you can justify
He isn’t really bad, just a bit of a dickhead. All his views and subs clouded him and he wanted more. What was better to get more than a cheating publicity stunt by one of minecrafts best players? So he did that. Every one of us would have also done the same thing in his position even though we like to think we would be better than that.That’s what clout does to you.
"He just wants to spread positivity..." *Insults the mods for doing their job and being right, sending his rabbid fans to belittle and attack them* Dream did it for views, and the video you make just admits that. His behavior is not one of positivity. Why are we ignoring his toxic, immature behavior and he can just complain on twitter about people not knowing him? No one gives a shit who he is, his actions speak louder than words.
he wants to spread positivity when he did the speedrun and when people watch his content dream did not insult the mods he was just defending himself until he admitted to it and he cant do anything about his stans bc he cannot change there personalities dream himself does not like his fandom that much he hates his stans too but he is still caring for them bc he does not wabt to lose views
Actually wanted to say that the 1.15 speedrun wasn’t the one to start the controversy it was a few streams that they analyzed in the 1.16 speedrun which he doesn’t like Edit: He addressed the mistake no worries.
It also wasn't even the record breaking speedrun but a 5th place run he submitted long after he got the record and was long since dethroned from the #1 spot.
How in hell's name dose someone "accidently" cheat? Dream should be more mature and properly admit his faults. Cause I honestly doubt this is the ONLY thing that he's used cheating for besides speedruns.
@@bigman7271 yeah the point of that comment is that you needed to elaborate, saying something is possible or plausible is the laziest way to try to make a point
he gave this controversy a total new look thats great though like antvenom he is not calculating the odds but he had a valid new direction for the issue
"he is not a bad person" lying to his fans to gain popularity and make millions of dolars later is ok. for real, he should at least admit that he was cheating. after all, it benefited him enough already
Uhh- he DID Already admit it, and he didn't realise he was cheating, he had the mod on for the manhunt server, and for some reason, it also affected his speedrun world which he didn't realise at the time... as soon as he realised this, He DID Announce it, Lol
I would also like to add that ones who made videos disproving dream's "successful" speed run are probably benefiting from this as well. Because why not? It had become a major topic of RUclips, many wanted to know the situation. This is entirely my opinion. Also i love Dream's videos as to do something good, something bad needs to be done as well...
Dream: Loses to Techno in PvP and says I'm not a prof PvP player after practicing for months. Now, gets caught cheating speedrunning he says I'm not a speedrunner. Wtf is he? 🤔
nothing against beluga, but I feel like this video did a bad job showing alternative possibilities. such as, while the speedruns did give him some views, however, his manhunts got up to 95 million views per video, while the speedruns got up to only 27 million views in comparison. not only that, but the moderators didn't even suggest that any speedruns aside from one specific one which wasn't world record, were suspicious in any way. beluga didn't show what dream's motivations for cheating were, he showed what his motivations for speedrunning were.
Well what else is there? Uhm i could think of a few like Troll, Simp, Anarchist "Just wanna start a war", Bored dude so on. He cheated end of story. The END. Do i think of him as a scum? nope but i do think he's an idiot coz here in the internet everything is all so fleshed out people can tell and prove whatever you did how little and hidden it is and he should have seen it coming but he didn't so his little plan didn't work and it boomerang straight to his face. So do i think he's a bad person? nope coz majority of the people on EARTH cheated at one point in their life no matter how little it is and this particular cheat could have made him more famous = more money so it's actually a good businessman move but he failed since he couldn't get away with it and all he can do is DENY forever since it won't be the truth for the people who love you till you admit it and that's close to IRL as anybody here can get.
@@m0n4rch911 i can't figure out what you are trying to say; there's no question whether he cheated or not; he got very good drop chances from a mod he had, accident or not. but according to the statistics he only cheated in certain streams, where he didn't any world records, only a place on the leaderboard?
Dream's ctutches just work a bit, but I tried to get to the other way to go back to the nether portal but It didn't work when using phone to jump all boats. And I just try 5 ctutches; 1. Water clutch 2. Vine clutch 3. Ladder ctutch 4. Pearl clutch 5. Boat clutch
I understand where you are coming from, but let's point out something. Dream, for a while, denied and blasted the speedrun moderators of cheating. This gives him publicity, but not the good kind. If he was trying to "spread positivity", he would immeadiatly admitted and avoided the whole situation. Also, Dream's content isn't even that good. All he does is play Minecraft, add some music in the background, and upload 45 min videos to RUclips. Would you call that a "good youtuber"? His personality is stale. He doesn't make me laugh, or feel anything. I feel like Dream took the wrong approach, and especially with the new speedrun strategies that are used, there should be no reason to say that, "he isn't a professional speedrunner." Dude. Why would he set 3 WR just for content, and FAKE them as well. I feel like your points make sense, but don't completely line up. Dream is a strange man, and definently needs a closer look.
Agreed, in no way is Dream spreading positivity especially with how he actually approves of a lot of the behavior of the stan culture he has built around him. His "i'm not a professional speedrunner" argument is bullshit because if he isn't he shouldn't be saying his videos are a "speedrunner vs hunters" as that's clear clickbait at it's core. I must say though, I fully believe he set up his WRs to be faked, for publicity, and not content. It was all a way to build his brand as a "speedrunner," to give him something he'd be known for. Why? Money. Dream is more than likely one of those youtubers who just do this for the money.
Guys before you go and rant on about dream, there is a video by Karl Jobst where he explains why he believes that dream most likely didnt cheat on purpose and why it was most likely an accident. It is incredibly detailed and he talks about almost every aspect of the entire dream drama. I am very certain that he is a credible source
Personally, it feels as if it could have been possible to "accidentally cheat", but if that was the case, it seems VERY unlikely that it took almost a full year to realize. I feel like he doesn't understand shit about mathematics and statistics and believed it would be possible to say "maybe I was just lucky" and people wouldn't understand, even though it was blatantly obvious to anyone with a background in statistics that the drop rates were modified (note that in the last response, even the "astrophysicist" dream hired came to this conclusion). When he realized most people understand that he was lying, he needed to confess, but still wanted to pretend as if he didn't know for a full year.
Yes, it is very possible he didn’t realize he had the mods on at first, but even still, it would’ve been blissfully ignorant of him not to realize immediately after. He knows the game far too well to not realize he’s being extremely lucky, on top of the fact that he knew he had a mod that would give him those exact results. and when he got pressured about the whole thing, he should’ve at least checked to see if he had the mods on. I’m very familiar with binomial distribution and factorial reciprocation / correlation, so I do understand that his drops are very much improbable, and while I do see how dream wouldn’t realize this, his background in Minecraft certainly would’ve tipped him off immediately
@@camdenandfriends174 You see that's just not fair. Illumina didn't even notice until someone else pointed it out so saying he must have realized it just isn't realistic. Especially not with bartering having been relatively new at the times of the claims. Y'all act like "he should have known" but yourselves probably wouldn't have known if you were in the exact same situation at the same time
@@jucedoesthings4534 well actually dream would’ve known, even if it was relatively new, he still had a ton of experience and it doesn’t take much research to find out that those drops are super rare. In fact, dream would’ve most definitely have known this in preparation for the runs
@@camdenandfriends174 Still wrong. He wasn't trading a lot, at that time people were lucky to trade a handful of times. So any error would go by unnoticed. If Illumina, Benex, and other professional speedrunners didn't notice, neither would he. And it's unfair to say that he would
@@jucedoesthings4534 it was very common knowledge that those drops were rare, to everyone. Even just random people. And even if he didn’t notice in the moment, which I already said was very plausible, he should’ve checked for the mod when he got accused of using it. So either he’s incredibly ignorant, or outright lied to everyone intentionally
“Gave then a lot more exposure” exposure to thousands of people wanting to kill them and wishing death on them, you should have thought about that sentence before saying it, and dream should have thought about how it would effect the mods before doing it
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I accidentally said 1.15 i meant 1.16 ^-^
*Edit:* this was posted when I had like 6k subs, i didnt know a million people would watch it I just found it an interesting topic at the time. I love Dream, dont take this the wrong way!!
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yes
Yuh
He changed his name a few times
Funny enough, the mods caught him cheating on the 1.15 speedrun as well! And that one was a WR!
Funnier enough, this whole statement came out right after they quietly took down his 1.15 run.
I mean the bad outcome of it is that his stans were attacking the moderators for doing their job. That's the biggest problem with all of this. Publicity stunt gone wrong.
Dream literally insulted them as well
i HIGHLY doubt it was a publicity stunt if it was dream would have planned it out and with how flawed his responses were theres no way he did this intentionally he thought he could get away with cheating and he didnt think the situation would get out of hand once it got to the point where he hired the astrophysicist he literally had no other options and had no control over the situation
@@aelphind4954I agree I dont think it was a publicity stunt. I think it was dream trying to save his image when they called him out for cheating which honestly he did a shit job at doing so. Dream knows that he wont get cancelled so he pulled out the appologie to again save his image. It was all about image, speedrun to look good, fight back and tell them their clout chasers to look serious and angry (but looking good), then pull out a appologie to look sorry (also looking good) all to his stans.
@@Afatratnamedpat i think its also wrong to look at this as him trying to save his image and focusing on the way he fought back when that really isnt important. Dream never thought he was immune to being cancelled and frankly its incredibly misguided for anyone to think he is anywhere close to immune. If dream was truly immune to being cancelled he would have admitted to cheating after people started debunking his initial response and he wouldnt have lied about it being an accident in his confession. If dream had admitted to cheating intentionally after attacking the mod team and hiring an astrophysicist his career would have been over no matter how many stans he has or how prominent a figure he is on the internet. If he had admitted it after the first response when the hate was at its peak he would have been cancelled by critics of him and his community and if he had admitted to it completely in his confession literally everyone besides around half of his stans that would still remain would see him as a sociopath, which he isnt, and his channel would decline significantly. Dream cheated because he felt he needed to get a good time on a speedrun and thought he could get away with it, and when his legitimacy was questioned, he thought he could get away with it by hiring an astrophysicist and make a response. When that didn't work, dream would have decided he wanted to admit it, but he literally couldnt at that point and had to keep defending himself. Most of the attacks on the mod team were out of desperation and his stans ended up doing way too much damage and dream couldnt get them to stop without admitting he lied, so he just kinda let the situation die down. dream didnt do the apology to look good to his stans, his stans cant see anything else in the first place so that would be unnecessary. Dream did the apology in an attempt to completely end the situation by getting the guilt off his back and apologizing to the mod team but without admitting he lied because again his career would be over if he admitted that it was intentional and that he lied the whole time. Dream was not the perpetrator in this situation, he was the victim of his own ego and mistakes. the situation didn't benefit him and there was never any point in time during this situation where the outcome was favorable to him.
Go back to circus Geosquare
-Dream
Best phrase ever
It's amazing how Beluga is speedrunning RUclips now.
Okay bro, you are late too
you are really late bro
Omg no you are literally on every video i get in my recommended-
Nice comment
yeah i know right
I love how beluga talks about dream going viral meanwhile he makes sub 5 minute discord joke videos and he showed up on EVERYONES home page at once you went more than viral my guy, congrats
69likes
Noice
I was thinking that too
i checked his oldest vids and came across this
and yes he just apeared in the reccomended page
Yes
Dream has 28 million followers and got it in less than 2 years so idk who u calling flop rn
dream only cheated because he knew he would never be as good as his father: lucid dream
Now dream is going to adoption centre.
lucid dream will never be like sleep paralyzes.
@cuckinator dude 😂
LOL
lolll that was a good one
Plot twist: he was speedrunning RUclips, not minecraft
@KamGamez 60 Millon is so much & he's an youtuber
@@flykitty2942*an* RUclips
@@flykitty2942 A*
@@quadkanix An* don't correct people when you don't even know the correct version.
@@悲しいちゃん learn verbs
i don't think the speedrun mods getting death threats is much of a benefit.
EDIT: Yooo since this popped off, I highly recommend Karl Jobst's video on this. It's reeaallly long, but I find he has the best analysis of the situation. The tldw of his video is that dream was probably being honest for the most part, but told a lot of half-truths and handled the situation unbelievably poorly, especially considering the size of his audience.
plugins you mean he dosent use mods he uses plugins because he uses a server
@@darioobiwan bro you good?
@Ghosty yeah, how did he even managed to get 3 likes lol
Hey the luck of the portal was real tho
@@kiattim2100 5 alts
I know too little about Dream to speculate accurately, but I’d like to point out that when someone isn’t good at defending themselves from blame, it doesn’t necessarily mean they’re lying. Some people are really unskilled when it comes to persuasive language. As for motives, Occam’s Razor dictates how the more complex someone’s supposed “scheme” looks, the less likely it is to have occurred. Simple answers are often most likely correct, especially if we’re speculating about what’s in someone’s head
This isn’t a defense per se, but your argument lacks substance
Dream: Speedrunning youtube by Minecraft
Beluga: Speedrunning youtube by Discord
Edit: I just realised that this comment blew up
Interesting
Underrated
Beluga on his second channel:
Speedrunning RUclips by lucid dreaming
@@uncreativetitle5759 Nope that's not growing much just look at his main channel it get 100k subs every 2-4 days which is 👏🏻
Beluga is doing the faster and more Chad RUclips speedrun
7:20 “spread positivity”
Dream stans: allow us to introduce ourselves
lmao
lmao
What is a Stan ?
Edit : it is Ok i undersand it now, no need to explain it again.
@@TheRealGamada a simp
@@sirusblack2789 Ok thanks buddy
“Spreads positivity“ proceeds to insult the speed running mods
to be fair by the time he made the first response video he literally had no choice
@@aelphind4954 🌟POSITIVITY🌟 DEATH TREATS TO MODS 🌟POSITIVITY🌟 MAKING THOUSANDS OF STANS GOING AFTER MODS 🌟POSITIVITY🌟 SO MUCH POSITIVITY!!!
HOLSHIT I GOT ALMOST 200 LIKES HOLYYDGFUITB
so i GOT 200 likes, ty guys
@@goncalobalanca4299 not the point im making
please-
@@justnoone611 stating the obvious
this is what i wanna hear, we shouldnt judge people based on one action. its like someone keeps complimenting u and u dont remember it but when they lie once then u criticize them and that isnt right
Makes sense- the thought process where "All publicity is good publicity."
That's actually true....
@@wi-3465 so school shooters getting famous is a good thing?
@@intensedj_ omg, no. It means from the perspective of the subject. So it is good publicity from the shooters point of view, yes but not for us.
Oh yeah will true but I wouldnt go as far as cheating that's just blewww disgusting to me
@@keepyoursins well views gets you money then yah and dream deleted the video and admitted hmmmm 🤔 this make sense
0:38 Yes true
Beluga: it’s just a theory
Me, out loud: A GAME theory
Yes
thanks for watching
BUT Hey, you're watching a theory OF GAME THEORY
I did the exact same thing lol
lol i said a beluga theory
Man this Beluga guy talking about Dream sure sounds a lot like that guy that talks about Dreams
I didn't even think about that, lol.
@@badtiger5467 It’s the same person.
yea lol
@@SavageJarJar who is it
@@nugget7760 Explore Lucid Dreaming
1:34 Beluga: Dream is my favourite minecraft youtuber
Technoblade: Oh come on!?
I'm liking how all the hermitcraft members are near the top on his rating list
This is not a rating list vid and yes hermitcraft is better
duh, hermitcraft is one of the most popular smps after dream smp
Sans 🤢
ssundee is best
and mumbo too
wtf is a smp anyways, it sounds so dumb and it is dumb.
No-one:
Beluga: My second channel is bigger than my main channel
ok great
What is it?
@@scowbadowstone776 Explore Lucid Dreaming
I knew main channel first before beluga lol
@@fmm0339 same
the fact that he admited to cheating was nice, but then said "oh i did it accidentally im such a victim"
that made me lose all hope on him, like wtf man just admit it
watch Jacob Jobst's new video. definitely wasn't his completely his fault
EXCATLY
m a d
@@sunswhispering506 Btw this is the guy Karl Jobst talked about in his video when he mentioned these dumb response videos. This guy literally doesn't even know which speedrun caused the drama lmao
guys, only dream nows if he cheated on purpose or on accident
I don’t care if Dream cheated in his speedruns. Do you know why I don’t care? That’s because there’s one thing that isn’t fake, and that is the mlgs he does.
Only one in 7.5 trillion
One mod can literally change everything in the speedrun
The only problem is that - there's a lot of ways to make your content fun and entertaining, and there are areas where you should just simply respect the boundary - and he chose to disrespect a system just to share a very "wholesome" content and entertainment.
That's like entering a simple running contest but you managed to have a roller blades, compete and tell everyone "just love me, fuck the rules, it's for entertainment and you got it!"
Again i disagree with the publicity stunt motive possibility, He was already scared shitless of his own fans why would he want more
@@Dumbsourplum Not really, if you truly are following his recent rants and excuses (which is extremely dumb) He finally realized that HE THINKS he cheated but "not sure how" and he really got nothing to apologized for, let's just move on, thank you for the spotlight.
If you think I'm making this up, go check all of his recent rantings, esp that very long, early morning bathroom "confession".
@@Ghost19_ how is he not sure? didnt he just say it was because of a mod he forgot to turn off?
@@Dumbsourplum that's exactly what he "wasn't sure" with lol - a very lame, poor attempt to tell people that he made an oopsie - considering he managed to specifically remember and identify it after all the drama, even hired a harvard astrophysicist that supposed to defend him but ended up questioning his method, and the rest of the world set their eyes on him and when there's nowhere to run, he just finally revealed it but won't admit it and definitely won't be sorry about it - all he really wanted is those money views, enforced people to simply forget it and love him and just move on. Let's not joke ourselves here - no matter how we see this through, he already made a profit out of it, and with his zealous fan base, he can (sadly speaking) afford to do anything: right or wrong, he exactly knows that at the end of the day, people will simply forgive him and that he can still repeat this scandal anytime he wants now for easy money.
@@Ghost19_ Why cant i reply to this What the hell whenever i try to write anything my onscreen keyboard collapses
"I cheated to gain fame, but I will call it an accident even though it's actually a part of my masterplan and I've studied the youtube algorithm to know what's going viral and what's not and now I got 25 mil views on the vid along with 2 mil+ subs." ~ Dream
.... that run isnt even the one that was faked lmfao
@@ShauryaHallow yet the one which was cheated on gave his speedrun vids a boost, so to his sub count. This was all for publicity so similar content was more relevant and was recommended to others by the yt algorigthm.So be it "Indirectly", dream did get boost cause of a vid he didnt even post, but due to controversy instead :)
Hope this made sense :D
@@aayuo7 i am not gonna argue any longer BUT before going, you know who karl jobst is?
@@ShauryaHallow karl jacobs right? or is he some other guy, also nah fam im not arguing.
He deleted his mod folder. If he was innocent he could show it that’s it, done. He cheated on purpose.
yeah he "deleted" his mod folder. man cheated
Most likely
Yeah, he definitely cheated. Like seriously, how do people think that he didn’t? (and no, i am not being sarcastic)
he uses server plugins he was probably in a server and he dosent install mods so yeah
he said they asked him for the mod folder like a few days later.
And it supposedly it was his plugins not his mods.
7:22 Beluga: "holding a speed running world record for the most popular game in the world is extremely lucrative, and it would totally make sense why he would want to obtain it"
While this statement holds true, the method which Dream obtained this "record" wasn't authentic, as he used cheats, whether intentional or not. I agree with the fact that Dream most likely done this for more attention and popularity, making his video not under the typical "fake speedrun" with the intention of breaking the world record with the use of cheats, but more of a "Entertainment speedrun" with the intention of using cheats to entertain an audience and gain a better reputation.
However, to majority of the Minecraft community, the definition of Minecraft speedrunning would be to defeat the Ender Dragon within the shortest time possible *without* cheats, and Dream obviously broke that rule.
I must reiterate that he (probably) did the "speedrun" for entertainment purposes only, but by claiming that it was a speedrun (as stated in his video's title), people would assume that his speedrun was done without any form of cheating. I would like to add the fact that speedrunning is not something which people take lightly, and is treated so seriously to the point some even take it as a career. Hence, people who spent years mastering this art suddenly seeing a youtuber who doesn't even specialise in it beating the world record would utterly shock them, causing it to be brought under intense scrutiny by the speedrunning committee, subsequently leading to Dream being exposed.
What worsens the situation is that Dream, while knowing that a speedrun was to be done without cheats, still posted the video, claiming that it was a "speedrun that broke the world record".
Assuming that he did indeed cheat intentionally, it shows how he blatantly ignores that fact that a speedrun was meant to be done without cheats, as he shamelessly goes on to acclaim himself as the speedrun record holder, despite knowing that he deliberately used unconventional methods to do so. This would seriously put his moral values into question, as he considers entertaining a crowd to be more important than playing fairly and legitimately. While it indeed is crucial for youtubers to find new and aspiring ways to entertain their viewers, this must be done practically and honestly, and without the use of cheats and deceit.
The fact that he still attempts to cover up for himself by claiming it was unintentional would further show how he desperately defends himself, refusing to confess the truth in an attempt to save his reputation, further showing his lack of proper moral values (supposing he did intentionally cheat).
However, on the other hand, if he indeed had not cheated and this was merely an accident, he indeed does have the right to feel indignant and defend himself against the constant attacks. Understandably, Dream, being a popular youtuber with a high reputation, would refuse to admit to using unorthodox methods to break a world record, which (probably) wasn't even his aim in the first place. He merely wanted to do so for entertainment purposes only, whether he cheated intentionally or not.
However, that is not to say his response to the criticism made the situation worse. Swallowing his pride may be a tough thing for him to do, but had he done so, he would not be gunned down for his denial of purposeful cheating. However, Dream simply could not bear admitting to doing something which he (supposedly) did not do, as he fears losing his popularity and fame. This pressure results in him giving more of a "grey area" response, where he hoped it cause minimal damage to his reputation while satisfying (most) of the public. While it remains debatable if his response was for the best, I feel that he found the most suitable way out of the situation, as we now see less discussion over the topic and no decrease in his overall trend of viewers, likes, and subscribers.
Nevertheless, all in all, find the odds of Dream not intentionally cheating to be extremely low. Dream did not have any solid evidence to back up his claim of not cheating, and even if the drop rates being altered were really unintentional, just who really did alter them? What were the possibilities that someone intentionally hacked Dream and altered his drop rates, and who would have done that? Hence, from my (assumed) conclusion that Dream did indeed cheat, I emphasise one final time that no matter what the circumstances or the purpose, it does not justify Dream breaking rules, especially if he know them. (Come on, Dream's a youtuber, so he obviously knows the rules of speedrunning. And he definitely knows what people would infer from the title "Minecraft Speedrun World Record 1.15")
All of us know he's just making this video for subs from those Stan's.
Obviously this kid doesn't know how speedrunning community works and that dream shared photoshopped screenshots of all his mods (some are legal).
And then suddenly, he says he *accidentally* did it.
Kid should be totally banned from gaming.
Imagine I go to a eSports event, cheat, earn a f*ck ton of money for everyone to just know that I cheated, and stay rich for life.
Not only that, he launched personal attacks on the moderation team on twitter and ordered his Stan's to harass them.
The fact that beluga Is speedrunning RUclips also like dream is interesting!
Edit - Dabo life copied my comment and got 1k more likes than me just because he is verified.
I will one day be verified and beat him in likes... God bless
Edit 2 - my main channel reached 100 subs 😀
Edit 3 (by spaZn1c in replies) - I'VE REALISED LITERALLY NO ONE CARES.
LMAO I THOUGHT IT WAS 15 YEARS AGO
@@Craeonkie lol
@@Craeonkieyou went in my trap !
lol
Beluga is not speedrunning. That is dream's speedrun clip
Look when he opens the inventory
Benefits for everyone...
Yeah when the dream stan send death treat to the mods it's very benefit for them
That’s literally exactly what I was about to say
Imagine being able to do control your fans
Speedrunning became way more popular cuz of dream if he hadn't done speedruns then the speedrunning community would still be small and wouldn't have gained so much attention as today
@@snarnotonsteroids7676 I'd prefer to not get harrassed by a retarded and toxic fanbase over any amount of clout.
@@suedetree970 you do know Dreams fanbase isn't the only one and to be honest not the only toxic one, there is so many toxic Minecraft fanbase.
But I will admit the fact that they were sending death threats is honestly just dumb.
“Oh no I accidentally didn’t notice my mod was installed, and that the drop rates I got were of 1 in 7.5 trillions, since I don’t speedrun that often I couldn’t have noticed it, oh and obviously I insulted who accused me and didn’t even think for a second that my *mod to get better drop rates for the only two most important items to speedrun Minecraft* could have been activated after I’ve been told that my drop rates were of 1 in 7.5 trillion”
Did you read the post he claimed that he didn’t know the client would work on the world since he only used it on manhunt servers
@@ogaboga6496 what you said literally doesn’t negate any of the stuff I said
@@ogaboga6496 thats not the point the point is he “accidentally” used a mod that increased his 1/1.7 trillion drop rates to a point where he could get it reasonably
@@cubegamer0761 I didn’t say he didn’t cheat
@@ogaboga6496 dream cheated and is a liar. 99.99% of content creators would get cancelled. But not dream. He has a brainwashed stan army. The only reason that his fan base believes the outrageous and blatantly stupid and nonsensical claims that he makes is that they are all 8 year olds without an ounce of critical thinking or reason. The year is 2021. 2021!!!!!!!!! We live in the era of information. It scares me about how many people jump in and believe lies like this.
This is a genius move by dream, and the reason why beluga noticed this is because he does a similar thing
Here’s my theory:
I mean if he did want to gain publicity AND preserve his own reputation, he hadn’t done a very good job at it. Some people started looking down at him and his ‘stan’ community. His credibility had declined. If making speed running vids make publicity then he would have gained publicity from his speed run either way whether if he actually cheated or not. But he did cheat. So why go through the trouble of cheating when your speed run would have gained popularity either way? The answer is simple: it’s like what Karl Jobst, an experienced speed runner of 007 games, said, ‘People (who speed run) don’t cheat for a faster time, they cheat to get a time faster.’ So I believe Dream got way too sick to put in the bother to actually speed run. And although he wasn’t a professional speed runner, that doesn’t mean he wouldn’t be heavily engaged in it. He did complain many times before how hard it was to speed run in the new Minecraft update.
Edit: Someone mentions the fact that it could have been an accident. If this was true, surely Dream would have admitted that he did and tried to clear the air as soon as he could. But no. Instead he tried defending himself by using his fan base to verbally attack anyone who denounces him. He even went his way to hire an astrophysicist. Remember this went on for a year. What I don’t get is why wait for about a year then admitted that you did cheat when everyone is tired already?
Edit 2: Quick update, after watching Karl Jobst’s video it turns out Dream did in fact cheat on accident because he wanted to make content making better for him when doing single player speed runs by using mods as well as a plugin for his manhunt videos. When he hired the developer, Dream forgot to tell him that he only wanted increased drop rates for multiplayer meaning he had to modify the plugin only, but the developer accidentally did it for the mod as well meaning without Dream’s knowledge, Dream went on to do the speed runs without even knowing that mistakes were made, which made sense why Dream fought so hard to defend himself. He only found out this a month ago when the developer decided to open after months of waiting since s/he was scared to tell Dream after the mistake since they thought they could lose their job.
Good stuff Lenin
Gustav
A fellow legend I see.
What do you mean he isn’t a “professional speed runner”
@@smayansahu1070 He admitted it himself. Dream said, ‘I am not a professional speed runner, I’m just an entertainer.’ I’m only reciting what he said.
A lot of influencers do this. They’ll say they didn’t do something when people start to accuse then later make a “IM SORRY I LIED” which makes them more views and money.
Yes, especially nowadays
Its no different from click baiting
@@hermannschapanski6254 I'm pretty sure they didn't mean in that sense, besides they never said anything about mistakes it's completely okay to make mistakes but lying about it and then coming out as sry I lied does seem kinda weird especially when this happens repeatedly.
@@hermannschapanski6254 Do you mind telling us about your kind ya know the dream stans what kind of food do they eat or how long they sleep also this situation been going on for months and just now he said ah yes let me check my mod folder that's highly unlikely
@@hermannschapanski6254 who can make a mistake and deny it for a year before accepting with only good intentions
Dream: '' I'm a youtuber not a professional speedrunner'' His Minecraft manhunt titles: Minecraft Speedrunner VS 5 Hunters
Yeah 'Minecraft speedrunner' not 'professional Minecraft speedrunner', one of his videos is literally called Minecraft speedrunner vs PRO, which implies that he in fact is not a Professional
Dudes, its content with the target demographic of minors. The titles/thumbnails are just to get as many clicks as possible, exactly like Beluga does in this video
@@JBAmex If the videos make money, he's a pro.
@@KarmasAB123 yeah a professional youtuber, he could literally post a video that has nothing to do with Minecraft and still make money
@@JBAmex He did a speedrun and got paid for it; stop trying to weasel out of this.
Dream: I broke Minecraft speed
Beluga: I can do better broking RUclips
"Accidently cheating"
That's like saying your cat jumped on your keyboard and installed hacks
I fucking hate dream, but the evidence points it to being accidentally
.
@@da_xbox360 watch Karl Jobst’s video before making any more comments
@@DavidR06 no
@@sheepism470do you not have better things to do with your life?
"They gained a lot of exposure"
Yeah, they gained exposure to a community that sent them death threats
i know you didnt say it was dreams fault for his fans sending death threats to the mods and people that were hating on him but, dream is not responsible for his fans actions, he publicly told all his fans too not hate anyone involved. he doesnt dm all his fans telling them to send death threats n stuff
@@mowbeep4142 then what was the point of your comment? it was never explicitly said it was dreams fault. the death threats still happened, and the toxic fans are to blame.
@@NoWayAroundIt_ just in case they meant something else?? i clearly stated that it didnt say that it was dreams fault just based on the comment
Not to mention, minecraft isnt the only game speedran on there it doesnt even need 'exposure'
@@NoWayAroundIt_ didnt he kindof make a video defending his stans? i mean hes not all to blame but he could have done with like condemning it (actually he might have i dont check twitter) and not make a video defending them kindof
I personally think that cheating on Speedrun is a great sign of disrespect to all of the talented and hard working people out there and faking one to gain popularity is a disgusting move
Agreed
Exactly
It’s so selfish
Agreed, and yes it is indeed disgusting.
True
I freaking love dream and the entire smp and everything about him but, I do think he cheated.
"It don't matter if they hate you if they all say your name." - Ren, Money Game Part 2
thats a stupid thought
@@steveselvin8699 yeah
@@steveselvin8699 It's exactly what he's saying in this video. Basically, Dream wanted to become popular, so he did something that got him negative attention. However, negative attention is still attention, and it still made him a lot more popular in the end.
"It don't matter if they hate you if they all say your name"
She sells sea shells on the sea shore
@@haka-katyt7439 but the value of these shells will fall
“I accidentally cheated.” = “I accidentally nuked Denmark.”
I accidentally told kim jong un to destroy the internet
Plot twist: the nuke was headed for Russia, but it went off course.
tip:
dont compare "I accidentally nuked Denmark." with "I accidentally cheated."
edit: also ik hes joking but yknow stuff like this annoys me so yeah
@@TGT_ understandable thank you for getting the joke
Guess ima die then
Edit: im Danish so haha funni
Why should his cheating be justifiable because the content was good? He lied and manipulated his fans.
So fucking true god damn someone awake in this universe
Ye. RUclips should follow throw on their guidelines and remove misleading content same for all other social media platforms. Actually they should remove the creator too even if they are as large as dream. Same rules for everyone!
Yeah I didn't like the fact he did that I stopped watching him and his boyfriend
@@arnavrathi LMAOOOOO
@@mastershroob the problem is, he has such a massive stan base that he can easily manipulate into doing anything. He'd practically go to war with youtube with them :/
So you're saying lying and tricking his audience for views and monetary success is acceptable?
I'm a little bit worried that you have such standards, hopefully you don't apply this thought process to your youtube career.
That is very true
even if it was an ‘accident’ he still doubled down when people found out. he always gave me bad vibes, and usually a toxic fanbase stems from the creator themself. but this combined with the trumpie stuff is really the nail in the coffin for me.
“trumpie stuff” what does this mean?
@@SavageJarJar he got exposed for being a trump supporter
@@yasminal Exposed for a political view?
@@SavageJarJar considering his whole audience is ‘alt’ teenage girls and the nature of how it was revealed yes.
@@yasminal wait actually or just like "oh he talked like trump here"?
"he's not a bad person"
Literally dream: don't hate stans they are misunderstood
Stans: HEY DO YOU WANNA HAVE DOXXZZZ AND LIFE'NT TREATZZZ
I am no Dream apologist, but I wanna point out that plenty of people doxxed Dream and threatened his life too. People even tried to dox and threaten his FAMILY. You can find toxic people literally anywhere.
The hypocritical and blatantly ignorant position of criticizing a creator for ‘protecting’ his fans is ridiculous and a trope that seemingly ALL of you guys use almost perfectly consistently and it’s completely invalid because YOU and I could never know the intention and therefore have no direct input to make a basis for claim off of and ruins the possibility of a missed intention and would then put you in the position of an apathetic hypocrite
@Romanuel Dimitrov and i meant the other stans.
@@bobertsquid1368 the fuck are you even trying to say?
@@mauricioc.7746 honestly seems like intentionally over complicated nothing lol
But like yeah sure he may do it for "entertainment" but still he subbmitted the fricking runs. Thats what matters. All hes doing now is backpedaling till he gets out of the situation.
I love how you absolutely ignored the fact that he DID Accidentally have the mod on because he had it on for Manhunt and didn't realise it also effected his speedruns
@@AceFaz but where did your info from?
@JACOB H yeah
Why would he even need the mod for entertainment purposes when he could just edit out all of the uneventful parts?
@JACOB H where else would they get it from? It's the only source of information from the guilty himself
Me when I remembered this is the same beluga: HEY WAIT THIS IS THE DISCORD CAT
Beluga: Hes not a Bad person
Dream Smp Members: HE IS A MANIPULATOR
Dont take it seriously though
Not hating but the dream smp is a rp so they probably don't mean that in real life
@@egg5294 Yup
@@Nishkiev sus
@@egg5294 You sus
@@Nishkiev has a point
This has been mostly proven wrong by Karl Jobst
Tbf Dream wasnt doing himself any favors. This was a logical conclusion whether you like it or not
@@Stagcraftstream who is Karl?
@@milesofduckies5298 Karl Jobst
@@10thletter40 Was that his point?
@@marsgo8938 I dont understand exactly what you mean
“If he did cheat it doesn’t mean that he’s a bad person or doesn’t deserve his subscribers” yes it absolutely does. If you fake a world record just for some internet points you don’t deserve them and you’re a bad person because you have essentially robbed skilled players of a record they wanted
but he addmited to cheating so he does deserve his subs because he is an honest person, you just have to think about it
@@dolphinxd7276 honest my ass, he said he "accidentally" cheated. You can't accidentally cheat.
@@dolphinxd7276 You know, if you say about a person who lied to you that he's honest because he admitted it, you either blind, or naive, or stupid. Or all of them.
Tbh….idc if he cheated
I enjoy his content and i still think he’s a good guy
He stopped speedrunning, he only does manhunts (again,idc if he cheated in the manhunts,its entertaining and fun to watch)
I’ll still continue watching his content and his friends content as long as they don’t turn out to be bad people
@@dolphinxd7276 he took it back immediately after last I checked
Dream: Yeah I accidently launched Minecraft forge / fabric and accidently had a cheat on :)
To be honest, I think the fans were behind the threats and harrasments regarding Mods, so on one side, I may believe Dream, as he had nothing to do with the threats
-
Though people have told me Dream forgot to delete or turn off a mod for Minecraft during the Speedrun, and others have told me he cheated on accident
(I'm not really sure who to trust here: this whole controversy is just hella complicated)
I don't think it was dream himself, mostly the fanbase
@@slicelol5223 Mostly, yeah: however there have been allegations surrounding death threats to Speedrun Mods presumably sent by Dream..
I'm not really sure who to believe here, since this whole situation is just so complicated.
@Melvin Lopez Oh okay, nice to hear everything's cool now
@Melvin Lopez NO!!! You cant cheat on accident!!! Its just another mediocre excuse by dream himself!!!
the mod was on too cheat in the manhunts to make them look better but the manhunts arent that important and are mostly used for entertainment he forgot too turn off the mods from the man hunts and he didnt send death threats to any of the mods and told his fans to not send them death threats either, he simply sent a response and insulted them for how they were mistaking him for cheating
Cheating regardless of the reason still makes him a shitty person. Regardless of why, he was willing to take all the effort the legit runners sacrificed and threw it in the trash for simple publicity. That’s pretty shitty
fair, but he makes lots of money off of it. its just the hustle.
@@nasalspray8753 “it’s just the hustle”- I mean yeah but does that mean the Cartel aren’t bad people? Sure they are chopping up children but they get paid to do it. “It’s just the hustle”
I never said he wasn't a bad person for it, but he isn't going around and killing people or whatever he's just faking a speedrun. there are different situations where it's fine. this is one of those situations where it's fine. The cartel are way different than dream taking up someones time imo
That's capitalism!
Nothing wrong with cheating if both the girls don't find out
what i think happened with dream is that he got something better than he could have ever imagined- he got stans and was able to ride the controversy wave to even more subscribers as epolpe made videos on it- he would get mentioned and get even more attention until the situation died down to some measly coals, but as soon as it died down dream recognized this and brought in his apology card to both A. revive his reputation, and B. the topic at hand and continue to gain subs off of it he hit it at the perfect time where people were forgetting but the topic was still available to be brought back up again.
in the end dream is an entertainer- i do not approve of what he did and will refuse to like his for that if you like him i really dont care its fine if you like his content but dont go around saying he was legit bc he himself said that he cheated.
well said
Yeah but i still find it funny how he went from "im a professional speedrunner" and fans saying he was the best, too his fan saying "he never said he was a speedrunner, hes a entertainer no more no less"
@@rainyrelation1626 especially since his series is called: speedrunner vs hunters. He could rename it to cheater vs hunters now hahaha.
@@TobiNano lmao
Wassup same pfp bro
Even if he is cheating or not, I *really* don't care! All of his videos are amazing and he is always cheering me up. So I *don't care* if he is cheating or no. All it matters is that he makes us happy and help us with his own unique way to get over of our life problems! I rll love him and I hope he is never going to stop making those amazing videos! :)
Yeah same idc about his speed runs never really watched them I only watch manhunt and the dream smp bc they r really good
Ok sure we're not hating on him or anything
It’s even more challenging to grow a channel with a name such as Dream. Before his channel, searching for Dream on RUclips would reveal a lot of videos that would have quite a lot of views for some of them, which is very hard to burry! Now I know Dream needed a name that everybody would easily remember, because this would help him becoming famous, so choosing such a name was useful for him but also making the channel start a bit more difficult than if he used a bit more original name.
But he definitely calculated all of that stuff, there is truely no freaking way this randomely happens!
I also noticed that he talks about dreams on his main channel, and here, on his second, he talks about Dream
@@bentleyvos you can make tons of views just talking about Dream. But I think his video is one of the most interesting ones about Dream's fake speedruns.
He once said that he found that name when joking with his friends on discord.
So please, dont make this even worse
@@Zebra_Paw I am talking about beluga's main channel
@@Zebra_Paw his main channel is Explore Lucid Dreaming, on his videos it has a link to this channel, saying it is his second, check the channel out
Beluga: dream is my fav youtuber
Everyone:smells like a stan
Edit:bruh no offence
stfu if you like dream it doesnt mean that you are a stan. it just means that you are a dreamfan and you love his videos
@@Anush_Sivakumar they literally didn't say anything offensive
@@Anush_Sivakumar do I hear a Twitter user
@@nagarathnammats110 me too
@@Anush_Sivakumar angry Twitter user rant I hear????
I think that Dream is too smart on us, his every step is scheduled and he perfectly knows what is he doing.
Dream new steawn hockings
lol
aka its all staged
the dood got the stonks strat down
I guess he is L irl
So beluga already voiced reveal? I thought he only made memes with discord nice explanation man!
This is why I prefer watching his Manhunts, cheating in Speedrun or not, you gotta admit he's really good even outside of speedruning
The fact that he cheated his speedrun raises suspicion about his manhunts
@@calculite3142 actually the fact that raises suspicion on his speedruns does not apply in manhunts that much.. besides i have watched karl jobst's documentary on this and the fact that dream cheated is less likely now (edit : to be clear i am not a dream fan and believed he cheated a few months ago )
@@palashgaur9002 idk I cant watch dream without being sus on him about everything anymore
@@palashgaur9002 ow someone who knows the video I dont have to spam watch that video.
@@calculite3142 yea me too but It is what it is :D
When he said “but thats just a theory”, I can’t be the only one that said “A game theory”
I'm with you
@@mrmimeprime4149 a *G A M E* theory
LOL ME TOO
*but thats just a theory, A GAME THEORY!*
Your voices for the characters are so accurate-
This video getting recommended to me NOW is just pure nostalgic and weird.
Beluga: made a vid that says its 0.00007% chance u will click on this vid.
Dream: did a 0.0000007% chance of “accidentally” turning on the mod XD
Lel yeah i just spam 0 in my comment XD
ya ikr
i’m the 69th guy who liked the comment
Chances might be low but not imposiblle
Dardan he literally admitted to cheating
Everyone gangsta until he tells he was speedrunning subscriber count..
Bro is it just me or does your pfp move when you scroll
@@firelord1688 tf
@@firelord1688 same lol
@@firelord1688 amoled display
Ok, so Dream is incredibly smart. He has proven this on multiple occasions. I fully believe that he cheated on purpose.
Yeah, a guy as smart and with as quick thinking as dream wouldn't accidently do something like that
@@TheDracoAnimator I'm impressed, Dream came here with nothing and absolutely dominated, he's like the Jordan Belfort of Minecraft
NO YOU ARE BAED DDREM DIED NO T CHET DRIEAM DIED NO T CEAT YOAUE ARE ROENG
@@btsxdreamxspongebobfanfict1796 lmao
@@btsxdreamxspongebobfanfict1796 lol cri more kid
7:57, Well I guess I'm not subscribing.
LMAO
Lmao him saying: and i will kiss you on the lips
"Nobody knows except Dream"
And here's why this RUclipsr isn't biased like everyone else
Ngl this RUclipsr might be one of my favorites now
This RUclipsr doesn't even know which speedrun was cheated lol. he knows nothing
This youtube is very biased watch karl jobt's vid on this. he explains way more on this.
If it was an accident why wouldn’t he own up to it from the beginning
Because he gained profits
You should watch his explanation stream, it explains a lot.
@@ChillDude123 his explanation for cheating is what exactly he had no reason to other than to try and mislead his fans into thinking he was good
@@federalbureauofinvestigati5549 That was not his explanation. I'm not favoring Dream or anything, but make sure you have accurate information.
@@ChillDude123 its his only possible explanation
"Getting a world record on a website that no one looks is worthless"
The speedrun community: ;-;
yeah dude srsly whats wrong with him.. literally hating on all speedrunners geez
Lol its true
Tbh this beluga guy was biased and way to forgiving, because as he said dream is his fave YTber so from a neutral standpoint he is wrong. Lying to people and taking advantage of others for your own good isn’t a “publicity strategy” or something you can justify
Whats wrong with him i like him for his discord video not for disinformation shit. Aniway i think dream cheated on purpose
3:50 dang dream mustve gotten a good pickaxe to break the world lol
"Dream isn't a bad person."
The thumbail: "He knew all along"
well he isn't a bad person, for example cheating on a exam is far worse than cheating in a FUCKING BLOCK GAME
Lol
He isn’t really bad, just a bit of a dickhead. All his views and subs clouded him and he wanted more. What was better to get more than a cheating publicity stunt by one of minecrafts best players? So he did that. Every one of us would have also done the same thing in his position even though we like to think we would be better than that.That’s what clout does to you.
@@honey-hunterslimefanno.3257 ye exactly
@@MrSojka and then he made millions after all?
There’s really no 8 minute explanation-
He just kinda cheated cause he was lazy
uh the video says more than that
@@kingweirdude2461 he cheated because Capitalism.
He cheated because he's a conservative.
i dont think that its wrong that he cheated, he just shouldn’t have submitted the speedrun as valid and told everyone that it was
he was unaware
2:51, Etho at S-tier. I see you are a man of culture as well.
Best RUclipsr, he should have more subs than any other
Poor mumbo
I get a lot of these but stampy is atheist a A tier
grian and xisuma too
Popular mmos and sky really use to run the scene now their channels are dead.
I miss them
I'm still waiting for that house visit
And beluga nearly has 3 million subs in only 5 months. Beluga clearly knew the meta
No,no
He just has a good gaming chair :)
Lol
Lol the gaming chair memes
Ur not wrong.
So does that mean if i get myself a 1000$ chair i’ll be the best speedrunner?
*Aggressively opens amazon*
@@nikamat3072 yes
Sorry guys didn't realize I was on creative mode, flying and ACCIDENTALLY took ender eyes.
Your statement is extremely stretched my guy
@@mangkanovlogs1416 dream stan!
@@tihomirpetrovic7031 he's got a point xd
@@user-pl9yq3fc8u THE POINT OF IT WAS TO BE "sTrEtChEd" toxic child
@@tihomirpetrovic7031 ? how am i toxic now. i just said hes got a point
"He just wants to spread positivity..."
*Insults the mods for doing their job and being right, sending his rabbid fans to belittle and attack them*
Dream did it for views, and the video you make just admits that. His behavior is not one of positivity. Why are we ignoring his toxic, immature behavior and he can just complain on twitter about people not knowing him? No one gives a shit who he is, his actions speak louder than words.
he wants to spread positivity when he did the speedrun and when people watch his content dream did not insult the mods he was just defending himself until he admitted to it and he cant do anything about his stans bc he cannot change there personalities dream himself does not like his fandom that much he hates his stans too but he is still caring for them bc he does not wabt to lose views
Actually wanted to say that the 1.15 speedrun wasn’t the one to start the controversy it was a few streams that they analyzed in the 1.16 speedrun which he doesn’t like
Edit: He addressed the mistake no worries.
It also wasn't even the record breaking speedrun but a 5th place run he submitted long after he got the record and was long since dethroned from the #1 spot.
Ok but do u remember the time he called out a guy for cheating a speedrun? 😂
That guy was called drem lol
@@riptide4127 Yeah, and bc of dream that guy got death threats from people...
@@sabellex64 woah, i mean it's bad to fake speedruns but that is too much man
@@pyramidteam9961 and now we have come full circle with DREAM getting the death threats
@@remnantsactualpvp1590 it's the circle of twitter
and it rules us all
1:25 who else thought he would say, “it’s just a theory, A GAME THEORY”
Unfunny memer
@@TS-ib9ll nah it’s funny for me
@@TS-ib9ll It's funny for me
The last video that is not discord memes... i want these back
But he makes reaction vids
This mans really turned a like 30 second video just saying "i think dream cheated for publicity" into 8 minutes
How in hell's name dose someone "accidently" cheat?
Dream should be more mature and properly admit his faults.
Cause I honestly doubt this is the ONLY thing that he's used cheating for besides speedruns.
Ahh yess
*I accidentally Downloaded an mod I accidentally opened that increases my Chances of drops I accidentally did it guys*
Imagine Karl Jobst making a video that said that it was plausible Dream did not realize he was cheating.
Wait, he did?
Good!
plausible mean low but possible
@@bigman7271 like the chances of him not cheating in the first place?
@@some_one not that low but around 10 persent out on one hundred
@@bigman7271 yeah the point of that comment is that you needed to elaborate, saying something is possible or plausible is the laziest way to try to make a point
@@some_one ive got a life dud idc as much as u about mcyt
I had to check that this was the actual Beluga a couple of times because i am not used to see this kind of content coming out of him LMAO
he gave this controversy a total new look thats great though like antvenom he is not calculating the odds but he had a valid new direction for the issue
"he is not a bad person" lying to his fans to gain popularity and make millions of dolars later is ok. for real, he should at least admit that he was cheating. after all, it benefited him enough already
Uhh- he DID Already admit it, and he didn't realise he was cheating, he had the mod on for the manhunt server, and for some reason, it also affected his speedrun world which he didn't realise at the time... as soon as he realised this, He DID Announce it, Lol
@@AceFaz yeah a year later 🤣🤣🤣🤣 stupid dream fans
@@steezykane4738 he didn't realise UNTIL A year later.
Stupid Dream haters-
@@AceFaz dude it doesn't take that long to notice 🤣🤣🤣
@@steezykane4738 I mean, if u actually watched the video of him talking about this... then you'd see why.
So...this aged poorly
I would also like to add that ones who made videos disproving dream's "successful" speed run are probably benefiting from this as well. Because why not? It had become a major topic of RUclips, many wanted to know the situation. This is entirely my opinion. Also i love Dream's videos as to do something good, something bad needs to be done as well...
Dream: Loses to Techno in PvP and says I'm not a prof PvP player after practicing for months. Now, gets caught cheating speedrunning he says I'm not a speedrunner. Wtf is he? 🤔
✨a normal mc gamer✨
A RUclipsr that puts out amazing and entertaining content, that gives more joy for me than even most high budget movies, that come out these days :)
@@nikamat3072 a dream
@@deninpaul7509 his videos suck. You are clearly under the age of 13
@@nikamat3072 Then his popularity makes no sense.
nothing against beluga, but I feel like this video did a bad job showing alternative possibilities. such as, while the speedruns did give him some views, however, his manhunts got up to 95 million views per video, while the speedruns got up to only 27 million views in comparison. not only that, but the moderators didn't even suggest that any speedruns aside from one specific one which wasn't world record, were suspicious in any way. beluga didn't show what dream's motivations for cheating were, he showed what his motivations for speedrunning were.
drama would bring people to his channel so it helped him anyway, sounds like ur just a stan
@@bigman7271 when people defend dream: HES A STAN
@@wansenpai750 Stan is a free pass so i win
Well what else is there? Uhm i could think of a few like Troll, Simp, Anarchist "Just wanna start a war", Bored dude so on.
He cheated end of story. The END. Do i think of him as a scum? nope but i do think he's an idiot coz here in the internet everything is all so fleshed out people can tell and prove whatever you did how little and hidden it is and he should have seen it coming but he didn't so his little plan didn't work and it boomerang straight to his face. So do i think he's a bad person? nope coz majority of the people on EARTH cheated at one point in their life no matter how little it is and this particular cheat could have made him more famous = more money so it's actually a good businessman move but he failed since he couldn't get away with it and all he can do is DENY forever since it won't be the truth for the people who love you till you admit it and that's close to IRL as anybody here can get.
@@m0n4rch911 i can't figure out what you are trying to say; there's no question whether he cheated or not; he got very good drop chances from a mod he had, accident or not. but according to the statistics he only cheated in certain streams, where he didn't any world records, only a place on the leaderboard?
I wanna have a word with whoever made that minecraft youtuber tier list
I need to tag along. I'm not having my childhood in D tier.
Alright just saw they put PopularMMOs in F, yeah I'm getting me mallet
but look mate, etho, xisuma and grian are s-tier, no cap
Im with you
@@technoir2045 exactly
Dream's ctutches just work a bit, but I tried to get to the other way to go back to the nether portal but It didn't work when using phone to jump all boats. And I just try 5 ctutches;
1. Water clutch
2. Vine clutch
3. Ladder ctutch
4. Pearl clutch
5. Boat clutch
I understand where you are coming from, but let's point out something. Dream, for a while, denied and blasted the speedrun moderators of cheating. This gives him publicity, but not the good kind. If he was trying to "spread positivity", he would immeadiatly admitted and avoided the whole situation. Also, Dream's content isn't even that good. All he does is play Minecraft, add some music in the background, and upload 45 min videos to RUclips. Would you call that a "good youtuber"? His personality is stale. He doesn't make me laugh, or feel anything. I feel like Dream took the wrong approach, and especially with the new speedrun strategies that are used, there should be no reason to say that, "he isn't a professional speedrunner." Dude. Why would he set 3 WR just for content, and FAKE them as well. I feel like your points make sense, but don't completely line up. Dream is a strange man, and definently needs a closer look.
Agreed, in no way is Dream spreading positivity especially with how he actually approves of a lot of the behavior of the stan culture he has built around him. His "i'm not a professional speedrunner" argument is bullshit because if he isn't he shouldn't be saying his videos are a "speedrunner vs hunters" as that's clear clickbait at it's core. I must say though, I fully believe he set up his WRs to be faked, for publicity, and not content. It was all a way to build his brand as a "speedrunner," to give him something he'd be known for. Why? Money. Dream is more than likely one of those youtubers who just do this for the money.
i think he only cheated in his 1.16
@@snipermonkey6779 yeah since the piglin trades made the number way bigger
Stereotypical Hater. Ugh
Even if he did cheat, you got to admit its impressive that he knew exactly how to get on top. He even used the drama he created to gain subs.
that was his master plan all along
YOU ARE SUS
@@firozsiddiqui7348 😳
@@cm3693 You are the IMPOSTOR
Guys before you go and rant on about dream, there is a video by Karl Jobst where he explains why he believes that dream most likely didnt cheat on purpose and why it was most likely an accident. It is incredibly detailed and he talks about almost every aspect of the entire dream drama. I am very certain that he is a credible source
Link?
Beluga talking about dream
Me: Why is that sword called p*nis
Karl Jobst called this video out hard. Stay in your lane if you're not going to do the work.
@@Stagcraftstream How did your IQ go into negative values
@@Stagcraftstream ‘one detail wrong'
-a kid who supports dream
Personally, it feels as if it could have been possible to "accidentally cheat", but if that was the case, it seems VERY unlikely that it took almost a full year to realize.
I feel like he doesn't understand shit about mathematics and statistics and believed it would be possible to say "maybe I was just lucky" and people wouldn't understand, even though it was blatantly obvious to anyone with a background in statistics that the drop rates were modified (note that in the last response, even the "astrophysicist" dream hired came to this conclusion).
When he realized most people understand that he was lying, he needed to confess, but still wanted to pretend as if he didn't know for a full year.
Yes, it is very possible he didn’t realize he had the mods on at first, but even still, it would’ve been blissfully ignorant of him not to realize immediately after. He knows the game far too well to not realize he’s being extremely lucky, on top of the fact that he knew he had a mod that would give him those exact results. and when he got pressured about the whole thing, he should’ve at least checked to see if he had the mods on. I’m very familiar with binomial distribution and factorial reciprocation / correlation, so I do understand that his drops are very much improbable, and while I do see how dream wouldn’t realize this, his background in Minecraft certainly would’ve tipped him off immediately
@@camdenandfriends174 You see that's just not fair. Illumina didn't even notice until someone else pointed it out so saying he must have realized it just isn't realistic. Especially not with bartering having been relatively new at the times of the claims. Y'all act like "he should have known" but yourselves probably wouldn't have known if you were in the exact same situation at the same time
@@jucedoesthings4534 well actually dream would’ve known, even if it was relatively new, he still had a ton of experience and it doesn’t take much research to find out that those drops are super rare. In fact, dream would’ve most definitely have known this in preparation for the runs
@@camdenandfriends174 Still wrong. He wasn't trading a lot, at that time people were lucky to trade a handful of times. So any error would go by unnoticed. If Illumina, Benex, and other professional speedrunners didn't notice, neither would he. And it's unfair to say that he would
@@jucedoesthings4534 it was very common knowledge that those drops were rare, to everyone. Even just random people. And even if he didn’t notice in the moment, which I already said was very plausible, he should’ve checked for the mod when he got accused of using it. So either he’s incredibly ignorant, or outright lied to everyone intentionally
“Gave then a lot more exposure” exposure to thousands of people wanting to kill them and wishing death on them, you should have thought about that sentence before saying it, and dream should have thought about how it would effect the mods before doing it
nothing about the statement is objectively incorrect
Now Beluga is doing a RUclips Speedrun!