Great idea with the lower position of the handle and the symmetrical arrangement of the shelves - you can shoot both Mediterranean from the left shelf and Eastern style from the right shelf! Cool!)
Great project. (but then again you could just go out and buy a 30# bow) I have been shooting for over 70 years, even owned an archery store, and now still have a collection of about 45 bows in my garage. I have taught many boys and girls to shoot, and get into archery. I think this man has hit upon a fabulous project for a father and son or daughter. Doctor George Whitehead
That little bow looks like a sweet shooter. Nice job on the modifications. It is the kind of bow I would like to have on a GOOD pack, the Get-out-of-dodge kind.
add some take down arrows with pointed field tips and the affordable pieces that goes on between field point and arrow and just like that , you are prepared for SHTF !!! ...
@@rick31869 ideally you get/make some heads that fit on a standard size of dowel (whatever is available/strong enough around you) so you can keep a bag of heads and a bag of fins and a few arrows on hand
They Assyrian bow structure always brings the most explosive power in any bow shape with it's perfect reflex-deflex structure packing one of the oldest yet, the most efficient bow designs in bow history.
Converting a kids bow to a harmful bow, in the UK could be disastrous. They could do you as dangerous terrorist. And send 20 police cars to arrest you.
@@milesbrown8016 Depending on where you live in UK. I have seen people making old English Longbow Warbows more deadly where poundage is up to 200-210 pounds for said bows no problem even newer makers. However, in some parts of UK converting a cheap kids bow into a higher bow weight I get as places would be suspicions of said bows being converted for use as X as a bow conversion like this is compact and easily hidden to do stupid things.
nice... try making a Penobscot bow like this, then you'll have a light weight bow if you only string the mane bow, and a heavy weight with both strung.. plus they shoot so sweet (I'm biased as these are my people)
I really enjoyed that! In addition to being entertaining, it was pretty educational in terms of materials and concepts. My kids are grown now, but that would be a really neat father/kid project as the child outgrows a bow.
I'm still rather early in my archery training but everything about the sport enraptures me. I love this channel already with this vid and hope to see so much more!
Very impressed, especially how easy you split the fiberglas, as well how precise your cut works are done 👍 -so you cut off 4cm each limb, made the hande stiff (12cm?)- so took away ca 20cm/8 inch and that tripled the draw weight? It als depends on brace height-that was a bit more than before, rising the pretension-and your drawlength stayed the same? Pretty impressed how big the effect was here and the elegant method for adding a recurve to the fiberglas tips. That will work also with wood laminates, i have to remember that.
Thanks a lot, im glad you like the techniques that im used in this video. My draw length was the same, stiffening handle and adding recurves really have big impact on draw weight but we need to experiment more 😀
A lot of effort has gone into that, and it's great. The only thing I would change is the string around the top of the handle block for the arrows guide. Something more solid is needed because it only takes a days worth of arrows for the friction from each one, passing it to burn through and eventually eating the fibre glass, creating a weak point
I've got two bows at home that are almost exactly that size. I've been into archery for many years now and family/ friends will often give me stuff they find in a garage or attic that's archery related. I have two "bowhunting kits" from the 60s or 70s, one a Ben Pearson and the other a Colt (yes, the firearms manufacturer). Both include what looks like a kid-sized fiberglass recurve bow, three wood shaft broadhead tipped arrows, a finger tab, and a paper deer target. Despite their small size, the bows are each 45# draw weight, the minimum for hunting in most US states.
Yes, size can be deceptive, few years ago i made fiberglass bow for a friend, which is 45inches long and pulls 105lbs at 28inches, Fiberglass can handle a lot of stress
A noisy sucker isn’t it? Did you chrono the bow. I’d like to know the arrow speed. It was spitting them out! Re: my other comment about semi-flexible siyahs I should have noted the strip of wood used to create the siyah would be glued on parallel to the belly or back not perpendicular as a proper siyah is attached. I don’t know if it would be better on the back or the belly and if the siyah should be thicker near the nocks and taper toward the runout of the recurve. Any ideas, comments?
I don’t have chrono jet, but it seems pretty fast… I would glue strip of wood to the belly side, like to have fiberglass on back to handle tension and would go for thicker but narrower siyah near the nock that becomes wider but thiner toward mid limb
I was expecting you to undercut the handle on the belly side and starting from under the handle use a strip of osage, rowan or some other high compression wood to be the belly against the fiberglass back. With that as a consideration could a flexing siyah be added to the recurve to make the last 15-20% of each limb stiffer than the rest if the bow? That might give levers that also store energy. --Armchair Jack of Many Trades
Hey, thanks for the great video first of all. I want to try this project but I never worked with fiberglass before. I have two questions: 1-I am afraid it will break if I push it too hard, am I worried unnecessarily? I know fiberglass is super bendy but my primate brain makes me anxious since I never worked something like this before. 2-Are n95 mask good enough for fiberglass works or should I invest in something better?
Hi, fiberglass is indeed very bendy, and it will not fail suddenly, you will hear a lot of cracking noise before failure so no worries. I would invest in something heavier duty than n95, and wear long sleeves and gloves. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for your reply Helm Bowman would like to know if it's true that there is a two piece long bow I do some back country backpacking and a solid piece bows are way to much to carry on your backpack when it's fully loaded down with everything that you will need out there
Never tried that, but probably it is possible, i would just try to find little bit wider bows, this bow is just 15mm wide, which is maybe too narrow for high draw weights…
What you might be able to do is make a bundle bow with limbs stacked together if you had a few of these cheap. Would loose recurve efficiency but could get a good draw weight longbow.
@danielsos9824 Its hard for me to describe that process without showing you, type “EFG bending bow handle insert” on youtube, there are lot of videos of Indonesian bowyers doing that process
I enjoyed that alas I’m confused ( it don’t take much ) that £10 bow must have cost like 5000 dunno exactly how much a belt sander an clamps an glue a vice ( coulda bought a bow 😢 much cheaper ) but I enjoyed it !! Next time by hand !!! Like your style 😊
I think I remember having a bow with a 60 lbs. draw, as a kid. Is that likely, or is that stronger than you’d expect, for like a beginner’s bow? I see you modified this to 30 lbs., and it seems very effective, so I might be misremembering.
you may get a higher draw weight by making the handle/center piece longer. (40 lbs recurves are legal for hunting in most places) this would make limbs shorter increasing draw weight, probably have to experiment because too short and they will break or can break. great idea though. i may try it with an old kids bow out in my workshop.
@@orionoutdoorsandworkshop5617 Yes, next time i will try something like that, you can also put some reflex in handle, there are many options, fiberglass is really hard to brake so we can experiment
@@Helmbowman right about the fiberglass. i dont think it would take too much to increase the draw though. maybe you could mock-up a few handles that you can remove to experiment with. take care
I’m really confused the title said it was kids bow that you got for 10 bucks and it’s deadly but you recurved it put adhesive and took the time well over 5 days to make crack or open change the compound and add a new handle like what? So you need 300 dollar in table saws to make a 10 dollar bow a keeper? Got it
@@Helmbowman except you didn’t sir you have table clamps table saws hand clamps hand saws it’s like come on dude imagine this you come on to this videos trying to make a bow from the 10 buck bow only to see the person has hundreds of dollars in tools lol 😂 it’s like yes you can be a f1 driver if you have the car the shop and money I’m sure 👍
@@Helmbowman just out of curiosity how much did you put in materials and time into this new build ? And how much does the adhesive coast? Seem like the time spent wasn’t worth the time you could have spent making your own bow, plus it seem that you need more then just some hand tools as I didn’t you build it by hand but by tools clamps saws and nothing wrong with it just wonder if this wasn’t more of project for views then the actual practicality of it all idk maybe it’s just me
LMMFAO if you watch at the same draw length he pulled it back to when drawing it when he sadi 10lbs at the end at that pull its still around 10 lmmfao so he went and pulled it back more then double that length to pretend what he did TRIPLED its weight lmmfao
Great idea with the lower position of the handle and the symmetrical arrangement of the shelves - you can shoot both Mediterranean from the left shelf and Eastern style from the right shelf! Cool!)
Great project. (but then again you could just go out and buy a 30# bow) I have been shooting for over 70 years, even owned an archery store, and now still have a collection of about 45 bows in my garage. I have taught many boys and girls to shoot, and get into archery. I think this man has hit upon a fabulous project for a father and son or daughter. Doctor George Whitehead
You did great thing for archery, thank you!
Nobody cares if you are a doctor, especially these days, when doctors are in cahoots with the politicians, insurance thugs, and pharmaceuticals.
Mayb different in price or laws in his country
That little bow looks like a sweet shooter. Nice job on the modifications. It is the kind of bow I would like to have on a GOOD pack, the Get-out-of-dodge kind.
Im glad you like it! Thanks for watching!
add some take down arrows with pointed field tips and the affordable pieces that goes on between field point and arrow and just like that , you are prepared for SHTF !!! ...
@@rick31869 ideally you get/make some heads that fit on a standard size of dowel (whatever is available/strong enough around you) so you can keep a bag of heads and a bag of fins and a few arrows on hand
They Assyrian bow structure always brings the most explosive power in any bow shape with it's perfect reflex-deflex structure packing one of the oldest yet, the most efficient bow designs in bow history.
I agree, most of the modern bows copy the old Assyrian and angular bow reflex deflex shapes
Really nice, I subbed! This makes me ask why they don't make bows like this as a standard, very light, short and efficient bows.
Thanks! Yes its really simple, give i a try 😀
Bear Supermag 48 is a small efficient 48 inch long bow and off Bears Website can be bought for either side.
Converting a kids bow to a harmful bow, in the UK could be disastrous. They could do you as dangerous terrorist. And send 20 police cars to arrest you.
@milesbrown8016 Oh my God, world is crazy 😂
@@milesbrown8016 Depending on where you live in UK. I have seen people making old English Longbow Warbows more deadly where poundage is up to 200-210 pounds for said bows no problem even newer makers. However, in some parts of UK converting a cheap kids bow into a higher bow weight I get as places would be suspicions of said bows being converted for use as X as a bow conversion like this is compact and easily hidden to do stupid things.
nice... try making a Penobscot bow like this, then you'll have a light weight bow if you only string the mane bow, and a heavy weight with both strung.. plus they shoot so sweet (I'm biased as these are my people)
Ha! Thats great idea! I will try that for sure, thanks!
It takes a practical engineer with a few tools to turn a child’s toy into a deadly War Bow, The warrior has awakened into him
Thanks a lot! 💪🏻
Never thought of this and how well it worked!
Really hope you see this look into fiberglass fence tension rods you can make fairly powerful loose laminate bows with them and there very cheap
I will try to find them to buy, thanks for idea!
I really enjoyed that! In addition to being entertaining, it was pretty educational in terms of materials and concepts. My kids are grown now, but that would be a really neat father/kid project as the child outgrows a bow.
Im glad you like the video, yes kids grow very fast. 😀 All the best to your family! Thanks for watching!
I'm still rather early in my archery training but everything about the sport enraptures me. I love this channel already with this vid and hope to see so much more!
Thanks a lot! Good luck with your archery journey!
Recurving the bow increases its strength by 200%!
Very impressed, especially how easy you split the fiberglas, as well how precise your cut works are done 👍
-so you cut off 4cm each limb, made the hande stiff (12cm?)- so took away ca 20cm/8 inch and that tripled the draw weight? It als depends on brace height-that was a bit more than before, rising the pretension-and your drawlength stayed the same?
Pretty impressed how big the effect was here and the elegant method for adding a recurve to the fiberglas tips. That will work also with wood laminates, i have to remember that.
Thanks a lot, im glad you like the techniques that im used in this video. My draw length was the same, stiffening handle and adding recurves really have big impact on draw weight but we need to experiment more 😀
A lot of effort has gone into that, and it's great. The only thing I would change is the string around the top of the handle block for the arrows guide. Something more solid is needed because it only takes a days worth of arrows for the friction from each one, passing it to burn through and eventually eating the fibre glass, creating a weak point
Thanks for advice, and for watching!
Thanks for the interesting video! I didn't know that a fiberglass bow can be changed to the better.
Im glad you like it, thanks for watching!
could you shorten a kids bow to make it into a native american style shortbow ? i wonder what poundage it would have
Sure, like Comanche style, actually that is good idea, i will try that, thanks!
+1 I was literally thinking the same thing.
can't wait to see the outcome of this@@Helmbowman
Cool! Gorgeous!) What does it mean - golden hands and a master of his craft!) Well-aimed shots!
Thank you very much brother! 🙏🙏
I've got two bows at home that are almost exactly that size. I've been into archery for many years now and family/ friends will often give me stuff they find in a garage or attic that's archery related. I have two "bowhunting kits" from the 60s or 70s, one a Ben Pearson and the other a Colt (yes, the firearms manufacturer). Both include what looks like a kid-sized fiberglass recurve bow, three wood shaft broadhead tipped arrows, a finger tab, and a paper deer target. Despite their small size, the bows are each 45# draw weight, the minimum for hunting in most US states.
Yes, size can be deceptive, few years ago i made fiberglass bow for a friend, which is 45inches long and pulls 105lbs at 28inches, Fiberglass can handle a lot of stress
Try a Ben Pearson take down bow approx 30 lbs.the limbs are solid fiberglass
⚡👍⚡ wow, thats awesome. I've a 70s model, im going to restring. I like the handle ya made, recurved it and painted it, nice.
Nice! Thanks a lot!
Great idea! What radius have the recurve? Do you have a template for your recurve-jig?
Thanks a lot! Dont have any template, i just draw what looks good to me, but there are many templates for recurve online, you can look there
I will try this, thanks for the idea
A noisy sucker isn’t it? Did you chrono the bow. I’d like to know the arrow speed. It was spitting them out!
Re: my other comment about semi-flexible siyahs I should have noted the strip of wood used to create the siyah would be glued on parallel to the belly or back not perpendicular as a proper siyah is attached. I don’t know if it would be better on the back or the belly and if the siyah should be thicker near the nocks and taper toward the runout of the recurve.
Any ideas, comments?
I don’t have chrono jet, but it seems pretty fast… I would glue strip of wood to the belly side, like to have fiberglass on back to handle tension and would go for thicker but narrower siyah near the nock that becomes wider but thiner toward mid limb
I was expecting you to undercut the handle on the belly side and starting from under the handle use a strip of osage, rowan or some other high compression wood to be the belly against the fiberglass back. With that as a consideration could a flexing siyah be added to the recurve to make the last 15-20% of each limb stiffer than the rest if the bow? That might give levers that also store energy.
--Armchair Jack of Many Trades
That is good idea, i will experiment with that, thanks!
SERIOUS QUESTION.... Im a flint knapper.... How many arrowheads/knives you need in trade for a bow?
Im honored by your words! I already give this bow to my cousin… Thanks a lot!
would applying a coat or two or multiple coats of epoxy to the limbs create more resistance ?
Epoxy tend to be brittle, so it can crack, but when combine with fiberglass cloth will do the job
They do make recurve bows especially if your into Renaissance festival and faires be because thats what they use besides long bows and cross bows
I was impressed... I thought I were going to use 2bows....
I like the bow and arrow as well. Too bad they dont sell grenade tips, like the Rambo bow. Oh, well. Lol.
Hey, thanks for the great video first of all. I want to try this project but I never worked with fiberglass before. I have two questions:
1-I am afraid it will break if I push it too hard, am I worried unnecessarily? I know fiberglass is super bendy but my primate brain makes me anxious since I never worked something like this before.
2-Are n95 mask good enough for fiberglass works or should I invest in something better?
Hi, fiberglass is indeed very bendy, and it will not fail suddenly, you will hear a lot of cracking noise before failure so no worries. I would invest in something heavier duty than n95, and wear long sleeves and gloves. Thanks for watching!
@@Helmbowman Thank you for your response. Sorry I didn't reply earlier. Will do as you say!
.. very 2 good , patience done to perfection, slingshot player,can replicate but no stamina to follow... you're 👍
Thanks a lot!
Interesting paint room you got there. Nice job. I wonder how durable it will prove to be?
Thanks, its holding very good for now, we will see
A little salt sprinkled on the epoxy will keep the wood from sliding around.
Good idea, thanks
those fiberglass rod/poles at home depot could be filed down or split to add to the limbs also if the need for more power ever is needed !!! ...
Yes! Or add fiberglass or carbon cloth as backing
@@Helmbowman yes indeed !
Clever Job!
fascinating transformation
Thanks a lot!
I have always been fond of recurves and long bows myself compared to compound bows
Yeah, traditional bows are something special…
Thanks for your reply Helm Bowman would like to know if it's true that there is a two piece long bow I do some back country backpacking and a solid piece bows are way to much to carry on your backpack when it's fully loaded down with everything that you will need out there
Yes, there a lot two piece longbows on market, almost all of my bows are two piece, they are very practical
Is it possible to glue two of these bows together and recurve the tips the same? If my maths is correct it would get around 110lb/120lb bow
Never tried that, but probably it is possible, i would just try to find little bit wider bows, this bow is just 15mm wide, which is maybe too narrow for high draw weights…
@@HelmbowmanThat makes sense, that you’d want a little more lateral strength for a greater length. Thanks for the video.
What you might be able to do is make a bundle bow with limbs stacked together if you had a few of these cheap.
Would loose recurve efficiency but could get a good draw weight longbow.
Very interesting indeed! I never tried to split fiberglass for my bow builds. How do the split ends hold up?
Never had any problem with ends, sometime i wrap the ends with fiberglass strand just to be sure, thanks for watching!
Nice 👍 what glue did you use?
Epoxy adhesive is used in laminating fiberglass plastics
Epoxy indeed
Great idea. I want to try it too. What glue did you use to glue the handle and blade tips?
Thanks, i used epoxy adhesive from hardware store
Super cool project.
Thanks!
awesome.God bless.
Thanks a lot! 🙏
Came across this chanel by chance...new subscriber...nice content
Thanks a lot Alex!
oh! also, would a build of this in a gull-wing/setback handle style be viable?
You can split handle area like i split limbs for recurves and induce setback
@@Helmbowman just to clarify, that'd mean splitting it from the side, right?
@danielsos9824 Its hard for me to describe that process without showing you, type “EFG bending bow handle insert” on youtube, there are lot of videos of Indonesian bowyers doing that process
@@Helmbowman took a look and i think i get it. thank you so much!
Excellent! Looks like you could make one from old fiberglass ski. Thank you
Thanks, i will try that 😁
Krammer Ammons Did just this in a takedown bolt on design.
@@caseysmith544 I saw that, really good video, really like he’s content
nice creation there bro !!!
Thanks 🙏
Very cool!
Thanks!
I enjoyed that alas I’m confused ( it don’t take much ) that £10 bow must have cost like 5000 dunno exactly how much a belt sander an clamps an glue a vice ( coulda bought a bow 😢 much cheaper ) but I enjoyed it !! Next time by hand !!! Like your style 😊
Thanks for watching! 10lbs is draw weight of the bow not price, but nevertheless it can be easily done with hand tools
What causes the draw weight to increase the most,
Adding the recurve
Or
adding the handle ?
Adding the handle, because this bow has no taper it bends mostly in the handle area, and that make it pretty low poundage
Adding a rigid handle + (somewhat) rigid "ears" effectively shortens the working sections of limbs, thus increasing the poundage.
Used to do this as a kid
Nice
Most states in America you can't Hunt with a bow less than 45 lbs.
I will made video on making higher draw weight bow from similar kids bow
Love it
Thanks!
HOW many lbs is it now ?
Its about 30lbs
That's an interesting build, fun little thing and well suited for small game if you have the chance.
Thanks! Im planning to go hunt small game with this bow
@@Helmbowman Much better suited than 70ld if you want to have something left to eat 👍
@@mrln247 Hahahah thats true!
@@Helmbowman Good luck.
What was the final draw weight?
30lbs at my draw length
What glue do you use??🆒😎👍!
Ordinary epoxy adhesive 😀
I think I remember having a bow with a 60 lbs. draw, as a kid. Is that likely, or is that stronger than you’d expect, for like a beginner’s bow? I see you modified this to 30 lbs., and it seems very effective, so I might be misremembering.
Usually kids fiberglass bows ranges from 10-20, i think 60 is too much, but who knows
you may get a higher draw weight by making the handle/center piece longer. (40 lbs recurves are legal for hunting in most places) this would make limbs shorter increasing draw weight, probably have to experiment because too short and they will break or can break. great idea though. i may try it with an old kids bow out in my workshop.
@@orionoutdoorsandworkshop5617 Yes, next time i will try something like that, you can also put some reflex in handle, there are many options, fiberglass is really hard to brake so we can experiment
@@Helmbowman right about the fiberglass. i dont think it would take too much to increase the draw though. maybe you could mock-up a few handles that you can remove to experiment with. take care
@@orionoutdoorsandworkshop5617 Great idea! Thanks!
is this safe for long term use?
Yes, fiberglass is hard to beat for its durability
Isn't that carbon "feathers" ?
Its great idea for my prison handcraft project
Im glad you like it! Take care
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Тачно!
30lbs plenty for small game and even deer in a pinch.
Agree with you
@@Helmbowman 👍
Title should be "Deadly bow from piece of plastic"... New sub nonetheless.
Love that title! Thanks!
@@Helmbowman Keep the great vids coming
Hey, new subscriber here🤙
Thanks a lot 🙏
Draw weight??
30lbs at my draw length
nice toy
but with the prices of a good recurve bow at as low as 130 dollars or so..
not practicle
smart, but I think using 2 toy bows instead of 1 will give you a more powerful bow... 45/50 lb maybe
Sure, i will try that!
Verdade e tão vivendo a conta do estado na Europa 😂
Intersting❤
Thanks!
This is cool, but I think I'd rather just spend 45 more and buy a better bike. No mods needed 😂😂
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Bisa dibelah gt ya?
Yes, its easiest with thin, sharp knife
What’s up with your dog
I have 8 of them 😂 they are all good and healthy, i just hurry to make video and forget to film them, they will be in next one, thanks for asking!
I’m really confused the title said it was kids bow that you got for 10 bucks and it’s deadly but you recurved it put adhesive and took the time well over 5 days to make crack or open change the compound and add a new handle like what? So you need 300 dollar in table saws to make a 10 dollar bow a keeper? Got it
Title said 10lbs kids bow, and you don’t need any machines to do this, all can be done pretty easily with just hand tools
@@Helmbowman except you didn’t sir you have table clamps table saws hand clamps hand saws it’s like come on dude imagine this you come on to this videos trying to make a bow from the 10 buck bow only to see the person has hundreds of dollars in tools lol 😂 it’s like yes you can be a f1 driver if you have the car the shop and money I’m sure 👍
@@Silentbet1of This video is not about making bow for 10 dollars, title said 10lbs which was strength of the original bow
10lbs is the pull weight not the price .
@@Helmbowman just out of curiosity how much did you put in materials and time into this new build ? And how much does the adhesive coast? Seem like the time spent wasn’t worth the time you could have spent making your own bow, plus it seem that you need more then just some hand tools as I didn’t you build it by hand but by tools clamps saws and nothing wrong with it just wonder if this wasn’t more of project for views then the actual practicality of it all idk maybe it’s just me
LMMFAO if you watch at the same draw length he pulled it back to when drawing it when he sadi 10lbs at the end at that pull its still around 10 lmmfao so he went and pulled it back more then double that length to pretend what he did TRIPLED its weight lmmfao
That's pretty terrible craftsmanship. Looks like Eastern European tier quality. Has that Warcraft game Orc aesthetic.
Could use that Idea to make a bending HorseBow couldn't I? 👌👍♥️
Sure! 💪🏻
@@Helmbowman 💪❤️