How an INTJ gets depressed: Not knowing what to do next. Time is catching and there's no future road to see and no plans to do. Its like our brain is trapped in a empty room and not being able to think what to do next. While also fearing of the time catching up to us. Not being able to control everything. I don't know about other INTJ's but this was my lowest point.
This is how it was for me as well! end up being desperate to find guidance and always end up forcing myself to do something to catch up.I often lost sight of what I should do next and then end up doing nothing.
Me too. Not knowing what to do next with an assortment of options paralyzes me and makes me depressed. Like my logic has failed and I stall out. I become isolated and aggravated. What do I do with that? The worst thing: Ask for help? lol
Yes back in high school when I realised my dream career would require a lot of public speaking, I went all out reading about speaking and relations. Now people see me in action and think I’m an extrovert and then get confused at my unfriendly self when I’m off work lol
A great example of how we have the power to take on any of the roles when it suits our plans. Kudos for your forays into extroversion, or at least the illusion of such.
I am a medical doctor and INTJ. And even though I'm basically the definition of an introvert my colleagues constantly tell me that no one can talk so good to dying or disstressed persons like me. And no one can really believe that this isn't a natural gift but the result of years of hard work watching others do it, evaluating their success and trying to copy it. And after years of trial and error I basically got a perfect recipe from a specific pitch of voice, speed of talking and things to say over to details like how to move my hands. You can basically learn everything and become good in it if you only invest enough time, power and will.
I couldn’t agree more. Clearly it was something you saw beneficial to master so the topic is more or less irrelevant, you were set in mastery and you got there :)
This theory theory isnt a bad theory XD. My Theory: If i become perfect and do nothing wrong i wont have to deal with any negative consequences/problems and life will be good. Reality: lol NOPE.
X = -X is what I used in high school to state how things should be perfected, either they r perfect cuz they r flawed or you perfect things by not pushing to a certain imperfect perfection criteria (Te being a demon usually), this has manifested in me seeing that if everyone did what they are supposed to do by default then things should go well, helps my objective observer detached self really.
Just to clarify that better. There is NO station in life, no matter how much money you have, etc, that you won't have problems that will drive you nuts. Every different station has it's own unique problems and more common ones. An IT guy probably won't have to be a salesman, but the IT guy has his own set of problems the salesman won't. The poor are unlikely to get people pestering them for money all the time, whereas the rich have this problem in abundance.
'We are ADDICTED to solving the root of the desired outcome'. ---- As an INTJ sooo true. We don't do it for ourselves, for money for anything, always in service of the idea. The whole world and every infinitesimal of time must serve the idea.
I should show this to people who deny Elon Musk is an INTJ because he can speak publicly or Sometimes act charmingly. Lol. They just don't know an INTJ can change themselves into anything if they wants to. I have a baby face and I am awkward. But I made it work somehow. People think I am an INFP though no-one ever saw me cry. But my family knows better. I am managing my family since I was a teenager.
The guy is on marriage number 3, so I agree! Just ask his previous wives and children. Some of the most brilliant minds that have existed just couldn't keep a marriage going. They were married to their theories.
@@erozionzeall6371 he lacks fi!?? Please study more. Sticking to your moral and bringing own's ideas to reality is the biggest example of Fi. If you have one you’d know.
@@wondergirl2561 he used ti instead. He used his Ne to think of all of the possible futures for humanity and used his Ti to choose the most reasonable.
Awnser: we work backwards. We see unlimited amount of possible futures and problems, then we focus on those problems deemed more likeable to happen. Point 1: failing school and a possible future that entails or 2: a death of a parent and needing new home. Seeing futures, we take action and prepare acording to said future deemed more likely to happen. -preparing a CV -looking for holes in the working market -housing to fit matching paycheck and utilities that come with it. We do these things mentally to prepare for scenario's made up in our own mind while not realising you asked us for the 10th time what i wanted on my sandwich. No, not everyone thinks like an INTJ.
As an INTJ, I often hate the dating world, because of the fact that I apply the function of, "If I do X and Y, it will result in Z." But then instead of resulting in Z if results in Q and I'm like, "What could possibly have gone wrong?" And then I sit and ponder and recognize that people have to be approached in a more flexible but structured manner. Interesting, but still a pain in the ass. I've accepted that I will most likely be single for eternity and that's okay.
Not sure if it's what you meant, but I think I hate dating because I want/need to straight up know ALL the infos about a person so I don't have to most likely "waste" Time trying to get to know someone that eventually won't match. Comes down once again to efficiency..
If I may offer you a bit of advice. Find another INTJ and as a result you will both understand one another in ways no other personality type can complete.
Just like our dear Nikola Tesla, he always worked out his theories in his mind before putting them into action but always made sure that it would work in reality. We want the best possible outcome don’t we? Efficiency is our language. Nice insight Lin ☺️
@@InternetLiJo also I find I want to know every "move" I'm making actioning in reality to the point of it being a memorized dance. That way the sensory is limited and I can enjoy it all detached from a birds eye view. Watching it all unfold like an elaborate marble run.
@@sudsysutherland6714 This I can relate to. I spent several years driving Uber/Lyft and it was necessary to have a ready made set of conversation pieces. I'm still surprised how much time and effort went into formulating and refining those routines. And how often those conversations were repeated word for word both from myself and my passengers. Now however my health has left me unable to engage in the working world any longer. And so to social media I go to try and stay at least marginally connected to the world. I did however find a wonderful feature on RUclips that I'm absolutely loving. The ability to mute other commenters when they start to get obnoxious or abusive. Loving it.
@@astridtheearthling Why tag Nikola Tesla though. He was almost certainly an ISTJ. A common norm is mistyping most masterminds as INTJs, just because they were genius🌚
Dang this is so true. I realized sometime in middle school that in order to achieve my goals, I needed to be able to talk to people confidently and make connections because I can't achieve my goal on my own (as much as I would like to reach the goal by myself, sometimes you need to bring others along in your process). Since then, I've dedicated years to becoming more outgoing, meeting new people, and overall trying to be more social... even if it's not natural for me. It can be very exhausting sometimes playing the human game for long periods of time, but at the same time it's also very rewarding because I wouldn't have connected with such interesting people otherwise. I am motivated to keep improving in my social skills because I know that it will help greatly in the future and I'll be in a better position to achieve the greater goal :) At first, in certain settings, I might not seem like an INTJ because I've gotten pretty good at blending in with society/what people expect (adding more facial expressions as I talk to show interest, being more smiley/in a happy mood, etc.) In fact, one person recently described me as "bubbly" after watching my videos which honestly shocked me because deep down I am really not "bubbly" at all. People who actually know me well in person can attest to that. But this example just shows the lengths that INTJs will go to learn something in order to make their grand plan work, even if it's out of their comfort zone.
Yes Lily I couldn't agree more! That's what I started learning as well when I was younger. I had to learn how to human better in order to achieve what I wanted in life. The goal is what forced all of the other functions to happen :)
this is similar to my story on "how to effectively human" too. i was confused about my typing cz i come off as warm and easy to talk to(i had high Te and Fe in functions so i went with INxJ). my friends say i "blend in" with others easily. however i only do it as a necessity and taught myself to do it cz i know what they expect like you said. i did it cz it is essential for my goals and only do it when necessary, otherwise it is just exhausting.
Your eyes, those eyebrow movements, especially how you raise your right eyebrow and hints of sardonic smile even when you talk, you're definitely an INTJ. I know because I am too.
So are you going to develop your theory about corellation between eyebrow raising and INTJness? Because I do that as well. Ve must measure ze Eyebrau Indeks to determine who ist ein real INTJ und who ist ein dirty smelling Feeler/Senser!
It's funny to read INTJ comments. Sometimes there are similar to INFJ comments about INFJ things. For INFJ, it's not the eyebrow, it's the eyes, the stare or the avoid eye contact.
I think that's why I had so much trouble typing my girlfriend. She adapts to any and all situations. She's become really good at networking, public speaking, organising others and she's super creative. She's learnt to do a lot of these things since starting her videography business and I'm so proud of her. INTJ's are awesome!
So true. I tend find any social situations akward but after figuring out to analyze every interaction and plan out the interactions people never saw me as an introvert. Like i would play sitmulations in my head on how the conversations would flow. I would recommend this to all INTJs.
Basically if im meeting like a acquaintance I would plan out the whole night in my head. Like kinda think about the persons interest and develop the conversations from there. I wouldn't talk about myself but rather just ask questions and act interested. If it's a group, i tend to find a role to play within that group. Maybe i would be the jokester or just someone who has a good reaction. Basically just research and play out all the details of social interactions within your head. Kinda fun but i need time to do it again.
I am driven and competitive i once stayed up for 3 days straight working on something that i was so close to figuring out there was no way i was going to stop. Not sure if that's normal or not but the satisfaction in the end was worth it.
As an INTJ woman, I can.very much relate when you said, "It's not you, its not the man, it's not the guy, its our own (f*cking) theory." It's all in our head. And I will never get influenced to think otherwise unless I'll be proven wrong in the end. Which often don't happen a lot.
The biggest mistake in life is trying not to make any. Totally the problem of my Life right now : not living it because i over analyse it too much. It's like you got only one shot at life to get the perfect outcome you dreamnt about, so you end up only dreaming about it and not living it... I'm 23 and feel like i've experienced such a small fraction of what life has to offer, when other people in their 20's are all travelling/partying/having new relationships, I'm just here year after year in my room, doing nothing of my life. Anybody else can relate ? Any tips ?
Do your best in everything you do but realize that nothing is perfect. Have a passion about everything you do but not an obsession. What helped me at first is having a "I dont give a crap how much quality I put into the work or project" specifically homework in school years. Then just applying that idgaf mentality to other stuff but still giving it decent effort to make it passable quality work or effort. Eventually you will find happiness on just living in the moment and not being as ocd cuz perfection is just a theory and being human is real. Being human is what makes us imperfect, makes us funny, makes us angry, makes us have emotions that only human are mainly capable of. We dont have to be emotionless just because we want to obtain perfection which in theory is to not being human in the first place. Doing will become easier with practice. It almost requires less analyzing and a little less thinking. Hope this helps
Actually,I can relate to it and also I'm 15.I don't really want to interact with people but I suggest you to write novel or something or Just learn the martial arts such as Aikido like I did.
You're playing a chess while refusing to make a move, that's why you feel like you're losing. Cuz you have all these rules but you don't make a move and then you think you're suppose to make a move. Sometimes it's not going to go our way and we either do our best to accept that we lose while learning from it or die wrecklessly right away. Overthinking is good but if it is not aligned with the rules you have, you're gonna have to change them rules or play by the rules.
Or just like the other dude said, Add goals to your life so you realize you're making a progress. Sometimes we can get lost. Like maybe you haven't set a goal in your life and you wonder why you're going nowhere. So you gotta be sure on what you want. If you did set a goal then you should realize how making mistakes can improve your decision making next time.
1:02 I would say this is very true, the stereotype of 'oh you must be a scientist or a CEO or inventor or...' Well, I work in hospitality. My verbal IQ being higher than average (not a brag, even if I was just average half the people would still be worse than me) allows me to be 'the negotiator' with guests and customers that are trying to be Karens. Sometimes in hospitality you have to give in if you fucked up. However, if Karens are being Karens I am the manager/supervisor that tricks them into admitting they were wrong and getting them to calm themselves down. And no one gets to yell at my team. They have to face me. My superiors are an INFP and an ESTJ respectively, they let me get away with murder (metaphorical) as long as the corpses don't show up in their morgues.
The four most dangerous words to me: "I need your help" .. because I know there is value there and someone has recognized the value in my training/study (it validates all the work and the time). The eight most pleasant words: "I couldn't have done it without your help" ... because I know I succeeded (it validates all the work and the time). (I chose my current profession in part because someone said that to me when I was working it in a .. skilled amateur context) When the goal is key, and all things can and will be sacrificed to achieve it, anyone recognizing the value of the goal is validating not only the goal, but your entire thought process and judgement infrastructure; that is to say, essentially, your life.
It's all about "The Thing" in the end, and getting there as efficiently as possible. Excellent job with the lighting, as a side note. Your video quality, no surprise, is on a course of continuous improvement. ;)
Thanks Dave :) Yes I hope to have a more permanent studio in the future so I'm not playing the lighting setup game every time. Kind of the hard thing about living in a single bedroom home lol
With me, it's more along the lines of "my path in reality is blocked, and here's a detour that will get me to where I want to go." I don't really view an alternative as a tool, but more as a less efficient path to my ultimate goal.
I think we sort of hate feelings in general unless they're happy or accomplishment oriented feelings. We translate people so much so well, and like data, that their messy feelings sometimes get in the way! It only makes sense to stop and digest distortion to create the emotional opportunity to move on to intellectual clarity. We are human after all! And so we naturally want what best for others and their "feelings".
Very much agreed. So many of my choices for personal development are instigated and sustained by how they fit into my larger framework of understanding. Seemingly disparate things make sense in the right combinations and in the right context.
The biggest fear (or probably just one of the biggest fears) in my life, I think, is getting to that end point and going, "huh.... what next???" Without another one I'm already working through in place.
THIS IS BLOWING MY MIND--I mean, the drive and the acknowledgement of skill acquisition/"steps in the process" being important to attain an end goal is relatable in an uncanny way, but the way it's applied and the possibilities of your (the INTJ'S) particular application and the PERSPECTIVE that that application could create/fuel of the world as you perceive it is very fascinating. ...dang. Also, snark tank episodes are lit. 🦈🔥
I'm glad you let the concept sink in and found it interesting!! It's been such a strange process learning how to explain things that are unique to the only way I've ever known my brain to work. Through our own perspective, our cognition is obvious. So why would we talk about something that seems so obvious! Ah content creation, It's such an interesting journey lol. I'm still learning how to do it.
@@InternetLiJo well, I can certainly say as the viewer that it's quite the interesting process to behold. From an Infj standpoint, my end goal tends to focus more in on the "how best can I care for/create environments in which this person/group/myself can thrive and bring their/my best self forward." I think also because I know the heartbreak when abstract ideals don't translate for different reasons in reality ("the gap between"), I appreciate even more that drive and conviction that you've expressed to push forward and try to attain what you set your mind to anyways. So, all that to say, keep crushin it, because I always look forward to your vids.
I've been thinking heavily about this for the last few years, and you're the first person who I've watched who discussed it. I know this won't apply to everyone, but I think my end game was/is freedom. In the video, you mention learning something NOW because it might be useful in the FUTURE. I took this to an extreme. My skills have reached a decent level in a multitude of areas. I will take the time to learn a side skill simply to secure the possibility of a potential use case in the future. I hate getting rid of useful things and will take the time to fix broken things if I can to secure the possibility of a potential use case in the future. I will take the time to rearrange my current setup or create a new setup to secure the possibility of a potential use case in the future. I'll spend a whole day in a video game collecting resources to secure the possibility of a potential use case in the future. Etc... I think that ultimately, I was trying to free myself from the shackles of momentary ignorance and/or momentary deficits in supplies or materials. I am committed to a future where I can realize my inspirations in real time. I didn't want to be encumbered with the basics of drawing when I see a picture in my head. I don't want to get stuck learning how to think like a programmer when I get an idea for a new app. I don't want to forget a melody in my head because I can't match the notes to the keys. I don't want to put off a robotics project because I don't have the right microcontroller or enough wires and components. Etc... I wanted/want to be free. I think the intj mind is in constant search of over arching themes and patterns so that it can deduce conclusions that are masterfully efficient and timelessly relevant. In time, we become the manifestation of painstakingly crafted plans and systems. We morph ourselves into the protagonists of our own endgame/endgames. And, in the process, we dedicate ourselves to overcoming the basic limitations of our species. The theory is as much of a personality style, as much as it is a life path, as much as it is a lifelong experiment. As Special Agent Oso the animated bear put it: "It's all part of the plan, more or less." Thank you for making this video. God bless you!
The best way to get me to do something is just probably tell me I can't or won't have the time. I will find a way or learn a way to do it. Work as an auto technician because I love puzzles and trying to make something work properly, plus there is always something new to learn
how do i thank you!! this video singlehandedly solved my doubts about typing myself. i've been at it for like a month now, studying everything n binging videos to figure out my type. i scored highest Ni and lowest Se on cognitive functions but with weirdly strong Te and Fe so i was going by INxJ. internet says INTJs aren't emotional further confusing me but i learnt that they aren't expressive but ARE emotional about what they care. anyway, you just made me realise WHY my Fe may be high. i didn't fit in with my classmates and wanted to cz it's beneficial to gain support for school so i started analysing them and learnt their ways, participated in everything that could build up my social skills and now it comes naturally to me like a tool i can use whenever needed. i ended up having so many acquantainces but even then had like 5 friends. socialising is extremely draining but now i can network wherever needed cz i know how to. guess i'm an emotionally aware INTJ afterall.
I really like the way you explain things. My older sister that I grew up with is an INTJ, so listening to you talk is familiar and oddly comforting as well as informative. I am an INFP. Learning about the INTJ made me realize why she is soooo good at everything she does.
@@celine7home I LOVE being her sister. She's three years older and has been my protector and teacher since I was born. Life was never boring because she was always thinking up projects and fun things do, back in the day before video games, computers and cable tv.
Am I the only once that noticed how excited she was just thinking about getting to that end result, the intoxication of it? There is no greater rush then reaching milestones inching closer to that outcome. That old saying "I'm so close I can taste it." The excitement when your so close at the precipice is like right before, well, my intj's know what I what I'm saying. I used to get into a slump each time after Id reach my goal. I finally reserved myself to "this is just my life and I'm going to chase goals until the day I die." So now in my current life I set what would be completions as just milestones which contributes to the next project. There's so many things to do and accomplish. So many records to break, so many preconceived thoughts to smash so many minds to be blown. I live to show people what's possible to inspire them to reach a higher level. I've always loved doing something mind blowing then hearing about what I did later from people that didn't know me. best. feeling. ever. The best part was in my mind I would be thinking "you should see my next trick". No INTJ go backwards. If we accomplish something unthinkable you can bet the next thing we are working on will be even more intense. If people only knew. Also, I don't think I've ever seen any of us deny the world domination end goal either haha.
The way you delivered it. Trying to put your perception into words and putting it in such a way that the other person understands was so so relatable. The delivery and the body language. Deviation of any kind would result in a mess of a discussion, of which you have a deep understanding from your perspective, while others are lost. It has to be precise enough from your own perspective. I don't know if this is common for INTJ's but I could see a reflection of myself in there.
I followed causal chain of my motivation to the point that I cannot go deeper. And concluded that it was to find the meaning of our existence. Every deliberate action I take is somehow serving to this purpose.
This is interesting because I've often wondered why INTJs can be so much better at "switching on the charm" than I am (an INFP). I know and have known some INTJs intimately and it's like they can turn into another person sometimes (but only on the surface). I've given up on attempting charm, so I just stick to politeness to play it safe.
Lindsey, this video was pure crack for me 🤣😂🤣😂 I don't think I have ever tapped on a play button faster. And as I was listening to you I started laughing at myself and was like, "Duh!". You know when you see something obvious and it goes right over your head... well. I think I have been doing this with my INTJs for years now. It's so silly because I function in a very similar fashion to you guys. 🙈🤦🏼♀️ What can I say? If you are slow, you are slow 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the video and all your hard work.
Insightful video. I don't know if it's obvious how this relates to it but I think it does: I don't necessarily care so much about the process of how to get from point A to point B (B being my vision or the thing I want) as much as I care about the results. So it's not too much of a problem to try various strategies that look almost conflicting superficially. So maybe I seem one way in one context and another in a different context, I'm just trying different things/using different cognitive functions, but it's all about how I wanted things to ultimately end up. If I need to straighten out an issue at work, for example, maybe I could pick up the phone and make some calls, or I could go behind the scenes and fix some things myself- and I do option A one day and option B the next; my process and behavior could be inconsistent but they both have the same result of fixing the problem. Or sometimes I'll intentionally do something for a few days and then not do it the next few days just to keep people on their toes and not assume I will/won't do it, and it's not that my mood is so inconsistent, it's all part of the bigger picture. You can have a vision with Ni, but sometimes it's by experimenting with Se in the real world that you discover one process ends up being more efficient with less collateral complications.
Therory: if i go fully plant based & live a completely higher vibrational lifestyle & master monk like discipline, sales, tech & marketing then make my first million in ecom & affiliate marketing I can go on after that and build me a Ben 10 like Omnitrix in the future so that I can transform into different deities & become another one of or great INTJ inventors like Nikola Tesla
@@Ontec. Howard Hughes was a wealthy man that locked himself in a screen room for 4 months. He was reclusive. He lived in a hotel and never opened the drapes. He designed aircraft. He crashed an airplane and sufferd lots of pain. He was also very OCD. Anemia comes from not getting enough Iron to produce red blood cells. This can be brought on by not eating meat.
@@troywesterbur706 Just looked him up, but with a basic Google Search of him & what you said, that's not higher vibrational. Living in a hotel, never opening drapes & not eating healthy is very lower. That's why I said "Higher Vibrational Lifestyle" & Operating at a higher state of consciousness & to do that I'd have to be in a certain environment & do certain activities like exercising, meditating, sun gazing etc in addition to the diet.The environment is way more important than the diet. Could eat moderately healthy & still feel abundant if you're in an abundant environment. Gotta take care of the mind body & soul. IE a Holistic Christ Like lifestyle. The money is not more important to me than my healthy. It would just give me infinite freedom & power to do what I want in the lifetime.
I'm in school. I'm extremely intelligent yet I am struggling because I don't work. This video is helping me understand why I'm not excelling the way I can and you are 100% correct. The fact that I'm not doing it for myself is why I'm not doing it
Beautiful and elegant analysis of processes, tools and goals; is very accurate and satisfying. For me your INTJ videos are like free self-analysis sessions, thanks :)
i really enjoy the conversation which is filled with high level of imagination and creativity that produce a unique theory.so i respect every own damn thing theory👍
It's something I did when I noticed I was deficient in human interactions - studied and developed a system to become proficient at them, read books like "How to Win Friends and Influence People", gained an understanding of the most important fundamentals, learned and tested the principles. Now I have this tool to use. Same goes for anything that is nescessary to get to the vision. Also: Fi and Se can also be used to reinforce the drive towards goals and the vision.
It makes sense. So to make an INTJ do something beyond their capabilities, I think that they have to alter a little bit of their theory or the process to the end goal right?
Interesting. As an INFP to do anything, I just have to change my value system a little bit and believe it whole heartdly and there I go doing a new thing.
Great video as always, we all often have to use functions that don't naturally come to us, and for me that end goal is exactly what can get me to do anything, as is the case with the development or use of these functions. Especially because the jobs that I want require some functions that don't come naturally to me more heavily than the ones that do. People see me differently than what I think of myself, because of this percieved proficiency with other functions at certain times, this usually makes me happy as that means I've succeeded in developing those functions. So yeah, I agree, to me that end goal is the hottest thing ever and can get me to do anything ;)
Well spoken. I've been told I am and INFJ, but yet I can identify with this premise as well. I spent 20 years working at 911 and , when training people there, I would tell them .."Look, don't think one step ahead when planning calls. Think two or three steps ahead to prepare yourself if "This happens, or that happens"...Hence, a theoretical plan in worst case scenarios. Well done lady.
Omg, this was on the money. Obsessed with finding the path to get to the desired outcome. 100%. This is kind of like when Apples would run a Windows operating system by essentially mimicking the actions of windows without it actually being windows (at least how I remember the specifics). I'm an entrepreneur INTJ, and this is how I make pitches to investors, et al. I do not like to give them, and I'm not really directly talented for it, but I can create a system that produces results that are essentially the same as what a proficient person's would be. The problem usually is the mental energy burn rate is intense... it wipes me out.
Definitely! and I have two other things, one is for little people that I love(like getting out or wasting some time) and the other thing is to not to depend on people in doing things for me.
alternate title: LiJo uses several similar analogies and the audience can take care of their own sensory examples lol. i think i just noticed that, this channel is like teamwork where the content provides a concept/pattern/lesson and everyone down here connects it to their personal lives. pretty fascinating.
0:30 I'm pretty sure all NT types do this. It's just the INTJs and ENTJs that actually act on their plans. INTPs and ENTPs tend to just think about them until they get bored and move onto another theory.
Very insightful LiJo. I completely get what your saying. But I fear most others, will not really get what your saying. Oh and by others I mean other personality types. #endhatrednow
@Serra 힘 Heïmgardé For the past three years I've imagined it as being a campaign slogan most likely to defeat Trump during his reelection bid. Also of note, since we only really have control or dominion over our own minds and actions, #endhatrednow is about looking inwards to identify and conquer whatever hatred may lay within our own hearts. This way we can lead by example and inspire those around us to do likewise. In a way, it's a twist on the whole pay it forward idea. Anyways, ciao for now. And I hope you day treats you well.
Idea, plan of action (which can be long or ...longer to be completely obtained...🧐)😊...preparation and action towards the goal. During the the whole process not only we will go through any difficulty, learning curve and experience and making ours what we learn...but we usually improve on our plan constantly.
Strategic thinking for a possible Strategy that has to be activated if current strategy needs a course correct. See problem before they surface and prevent the negative future correspondences so the present can be smooth as possible all with the end point in focus.
I’ve been reading a lot about the Socratic method. I dig it because, in a nutshell, it’s the idea that the validity of something is poked and prodded almost endlessly until a contradiction can be found within the “something’s” essence. And one of the best ways to find a contradiction (or at least a weakness) within a “something” is to take its core essence (the rules and conditions it lives by) and apply it to something different entirely. If this “something’s” essence is true and accurate, then it’s applicability to other “something’s” SHOULD yield similar if not identical results. It’s consistent. And constant. It’s true and accurate. But if those same rules and conditions are applied elsewhere and you find that this new “something” falls flat on its face with the original “something’s” rules and conditions - it doesn’t work. And so it’s essence should be discarded and new rules and conditions should be drawn up. In relation to your video - I’m finding this rule of applicability is making it so that I find errors almost EVERYWHERE. It’s as if this rule of applicability (if A + B = C works here, then let’s see if it works there, too) is beginning to unmask contradictions I had only intuitively noticed, but never organically understood, in and of itself. And so I feel like this applicability rule you touch on is actually producing the OPPOSITE effect in that rather than finding a rule of applicability that will allow me to get to the desired effect, I find flaw within the rule of applicability and find that the “desired effect” is no longer desired. Because it’s based on a set of rules and regulations that are riddled with holes one can drive an 18 wheeler through. The argument I most hear against my thinking is that it’s known as “false equivalency;” I call it some variation of “double standard;” “hypocrisy;” “convenient applicability;” etc. Needless to say, I’m beginning to find desire for fewer and fewer things these days. I’m great at parties:)
I do this quite often. I often see myself with a deck of cards, if I play a specific card in a specific situation then I have a specific probability of achieving a specific result/goal with each card having a specific probability and a specific consequential outcome.
This blessing quickly becomes a curse, when you make an idol of the "perfect plan," hold on to it for dear life, and then take it personal when others won't do the same. Sometimes it's about humbling yourself, because how "perfect" is the plan if it lacks flexibility and input from others.
All my life, no one has ever figured out why I am weirdly nice to creating a good version of how I want things to be in other to reach my end goal. I even had to learn about emotions and read a lot about psychology because I will need the circle of people I am currently working with in 3 years to come and they know nothing about it and I don't care. I can't wait for these faked emotions I give off to end because I hate it. Because in the society I am born into people like me are easily called witches and quickly ostracized and I need these people in order to reach my end goal. The pain!!!!
I remember my classmates saying that I just exude a very extroverted charm to lead a group but got confused when they learned that I don't even remember the names of the people in that said group, and it took me 2 weeks to remember them as I'm not really interested to befriend them but to just lead and finish the whole ordeal.
I absolutely love the *Long game! but first to have a long game there needs to be a goal. I have recently found myself void of a key goal. Not because i never had one, but because i just reached a big one. I am stuck, genuinely stuck! The business is still moving forward, the marriage n home life is good, my faith is intact, yet i feel directionless. So, i am planning a week away to brainstrom, while fishing, solo camping & touching base with my "where to next & how that looks, ultimately, how that plays out, what new skills i will need, resources & realistic timeframes against small acheivable steps. There is nothing more frustrating to an INTJ than being goal less!
Absolutely spot on. I lean on extroverted behaviours because they are needed as part of the process. I factor in the recovery time to recuperate energy depletion as a result of the overwhelming nature to dig into those unnatural tools. It's just a necessary evil to get from A to B.
I tell people all the time everything ever made was designed. The thought process behind work or anything for that matter should be done with that very theory in mind. That is the true bridge in problem solving.
Everything's an equation or tool for INTJs, there's always only one outcome, everything is black and white, no flexibility. I just ended a long friendship with an INTJ because I didn't feel understood, I felt like I had been put in a box with labels and "figured out" so to speak - so whenever I acted outside of those expectations, there was always something "wrong" (and probably emotional) that needed to be discussed, worked through, and corrected. Because obviously emotions are bad and should not interfere with behavior....uh huh. :( It's nice most of the time, to have structure and unwavering logical support. But sometimes you just need a little more Fe in the mix... Sincerely, An Fe/Ti user
I'm sorry to hear about your negative experience with an INTJ. Sounds like they didn't possess at least Cognitive Empathy to be able to process Emotions Intelligently and Logically. Not everyone is like that but it depends on one's upbringing, be it by self family education or experience.
@@Mary-Ann_B_Mabaet thanks for your response, I hardly remember writing this comment. We've actually recuperated our friendship and it's stronger than ever after learning some tough lessons. 🙂
Wow, I can see your enthusiasm talking about this idea. It must've been, with all reason, a special breakthrough to you. You have this facial expression of *NOW I'M GONNA BLOW YOUR MIND, INTERNET FRIEND*. And, once again, you did. :)
as always, precise in explaining. This video showed me the mystic reputation of Ni. HERE ARE THE QUESTIONS: So, does this mean that you have multiple threads of how stuff work? so for example there's a thread of information organized on what are the steps on "pleasing the theatre audience". then a different thread exists for "how you should manage your money until the rent pay?" And if for example people ask you how to be thrifty, That thriftiness steps already exists in between the thread of "how to manage your money until the rent pay" so thats reusability. What about stuff that you havent theorized yet, how does theorizing start? This is crazy. you don't even have to consciously know the inner workings? it just works. I very clearly see the Ni way now. I will need your confirmation if I interpretted it correctly. Also, Awesome content, what are you doing this OPS thing for then?
This video is exactly the reason why I think INTJs can fit in any field and have any career they want. They can be good at everything if there are motivates like interest, knowledge, plan, theory etc.
This is so true! I have learned to observe people and imitate them, it's hard but it's helped me a lot during social situations with people I'm unfamiliar with.
That explains how fast I cut off a long-term relationship without any emotion in just a few day. Because I accidentally found out the blind spot of this relationship, when the theory I made up was gone..the relationship was over.
YES! I have even had to reject things I'm good at, when I was trying to figure out a basis for starting a business, because I realized I don't actually like or want to do any of those things. I had just learned and became good at them to serve my greater purpose. I've definitely learned many things this way. But they are not at the root of what I actually care about. They are just a means to an end.
Lijo that is a nice one again. I always tend to compare INTJ(5) brain to AI neural network. Pick a goal gather most valuable data arround the subject. Find the appropriate recurrent patterns. Make a the most efficient plan to reach that goal. But do it in your way (fi ♡) = the thing that currently make us different from AI. To that extent i will advice any INTJ to watch this movie HER. It is a juicy mix of Fi _Ni _Te plaisur.
How an INTJ gets depressed: Not knowing what to do next. Time is catching and there's no future road to see and no plans to do. Its like our brain is trapped in a empty room and not being able to think what to do next. While also fearing of the time catching up to us. Not being able to control everything.
I don't know about other INTJ's but this was my lowest point.
This is how it was for me as well! end up being desperate to find guidance and always end up forcing myself to do something to catch up.I often lost sight of what I should do next and then end up doing nothing.
Me too. Not knowing what to do next with an assortment of options paralyzes me and makes me depressed. Like my logic has failed and I stall out. I become isolated and aggravated. What do I do with that? The worst thing: Ask for help? lol
Normally, I know exactly what I need to do,
Or at least I think I do.
That's me somethimes. I think I'm sure I'm an INTJ 👍
Some say that you can't accurately type yourself, perhaps INTJ's are the best at self typing❓
This is me right now!
Yes back in high school when I realised my dream career would require a lot of public speaking, I went all out reading about speaking and relations. Now people see me in action and think I’m an extrovert and then get confused at my unfriendly self when I’m off work lol
Damn I relate to this so hard 😂
Aaahaaaaaahahaha!! Yup so true!
A great example of how we have the power to take on any of the roles when it suits our plans. Kudos for your forays into extroversion, or at least the illusion of such.
I relate so much to this!
Haha wow glad I’m not the only one !
I am a medical doctor and INTJ. And even though I'm basically the definition of an introvert my colleagues constantly tell me that no one can talk so good to dying or disstressed persons like me. And no one can really believe that this isn't a natural gift but the result of years of hard work watching others do it, evaluating their success and trying to copy it. And after years of trial and error I basically got a perfect recipe from a specific pitch of voice, speed of talking and things to say over to details like how to move my hands. You can basically learn everything and become good in it if you only invest enough time, power and will.
I couldn’t agree more. Clearly it was something you saw beneficial to master so the topic is more or less irrelevant, you were set in mastery and you got there :)
"Relax, it's all part of the plan..."
DACKSON! 🖤 👽
Lmao 😂
"Trust me, just let it happen"
Ahahahaha! Yes
This theory theory isnt a bad theory XD.
My Theory: If i become perfect and do nothing wrong i wont have to deal with any negative consequences/problems and life will be good.
Reality: lol NOPE.
You gotta break it down into smaller goals. 😂
reality is the largest nope button lol
NOPE indeed.
X = -X is what I used in high school to state how things should be perfected, either they r perfect cuz they r flawed or you perfect things by not pushing to a certain imperfect perfection criteria (Te being a demon usually), this has manifested in me seeing that if everyone did what they are supposed to do by default then things should go well, helps my objective observer detached self really.
Just to clarify that better. There is NO station in life, no matter how much money you have, etc, that you won't have problems that will drive you nuts. Every different station has it's own unique problems and more common ones. An IT guy probably won't have to be a salesman, but the IT guy has his own set of problems the salesman won't. The poor are unlikely to get people pestering them for money all the time, whereas the rich have this problem in abundance.
'We are ADDICTED to solving the root of the desired outcome'. ---- As an INTJ sooo true. We don't do it for ourselves, for money for anything, always in service of the idea. The whole world and every infinitesimal of time must serve the idea.
That is it!!
I should show this to people who deny Elon Musk is an INTJ because he can speak publicly or Sometimes act charmingly. Lol. They just don't know an INTJ can change themselves into anything if they wants to. I have a baby face and I am awkward. But I made it work somehow. People think I am an INFP though no-one ever saw me cry. But my family knows better. I am managing my family since I was a teenager.
The guy is on marriage number 3, so I agree! Just ask his previous wives and children. Some of the most brilliant minds that have existed just couldn't keep a marriage going. They were married to their theories.
Elon is an Intp, he lacks the Fi INTJs have.
@@erozionzeall6371 he lacks fi!?? Please study more. Sticking to your moral and bringing own's ideas to reality is the biggest example of Fi. If you have one you’d know.
@@wondergirl2561 he used ti instead. He used his Ne to think of all of the possible futures for humanity and used his Ti to choose the most reasonable.
@@erozionzeall6371 you don't see Ni then?? If u don't then no point of arguing. You have no idea about the Elon Musk.
Wait, this isn’t how everyone functions? Why not? Lol -INTJ
I was going to comment the same thing but then I read your comment. Exactly. Isn't it? Why not????
Literally my question 😂
“Wait, that’s not normal?”
Me during this entire video.
same 😂😂
Awnser: we work backwards. We see unlimited amount of possible futures and problems, then we focus on those problems deemed more likeable to happen. Point 1: failing school and a possible future that entails or 2: a death of a parent and needing new home.
Seeing futures, we take action and prepare acording to said future deemed more likely to happen.
-preparing a CV
-looking for holes in the working market
-housing to fit matching paycheck and utilities that come with it.
We do these things mentally to prepare for scenario's made up in our own mind while not realising you asked us for the 10th time what i wanted on my sandwich.
No, not everyone thinks like an INTJ.
As an INTJ, I often hate the dating world, because of the fact that I apply the function of, "If I do X and Y, it will result in Z." But then instead of resulting in Z if results in Q and I'm like, "What could possibly have gone wrong?" And then I sit and ponder and recognize that people have to be approached in a more flexible but structured manner. Interesting, but still a pain in the ass. I've accepted that I will most likely be single for eternity and that's okay.
Not sure if it's what you meant, but I think I hate dating because I want/need to straight up know ALL the infos about a person so I don't have to most likely "waste" Time trying to get to know someone that eventually won't match.
Comes down once again to efficiency..
You just haven't discovered the correct methodology and mindset. It's not that difficult when you figure it out. :)
If I may offer you a bit of advice. Find another INTJ and as a result you will both understand one another in ways no other personality type can complete.
Same here...and also it doesnt help being a demisexual to boot. I still feel like I'm going to end up with someone eventually, though
@@guillonremi5668 I get that. I'm not trying to waste my time.
Just like our dear Nikola Tesla, he always worked out his theories in his mind before putting them into action but always made sure that it would work in reality. We want the best possible outcome don’t we? Efficiency is our language. Nice insight Lin ☺️
Right? Actioning in reality takes a lot of sensory. We want to make sure it’s worth our while :)
@@InternetLiJo also I find I want to know every "move" I'm making actioning in reality to the point of it being a memorized dance. That way the sensory is limited and I can enjoy it all detached from a birds eye view. Watching it all unfold like an elaborate marble run.
@@sudsysutherland6714 This I can relate to. I spent several years driving Uber/Lyft and it was necessary to have a ready made set of conversation pieces. I'm still surprised how much time and effort went into formulating and refining those routines. And how often those conversations were repeated word for word both from myself and my passengers. Now however my health has left me unable to engage in the working world any longer. And so to social media I go to try and stay at least marginally connected to the world.
I did however find a wonderful feature on RUclips that I'm absolutely loving. The ability to mute other commenters when they start to get obnoxious or abusive. Loving it.
Lin Yen Chin agreed!
@@astridtheearthling Why tag Nikola Tesla though. He was almost certainly an ISTJ. A common norm is mistyping most masterminds as INTJs, just because they were genius🌚
Dang this is so true. I realized sometime in middle school that in order to achieve my goals, I needed to be able to talk to people confidently and make connections because I can't achieve my goal on my own (as much as I would like to reach the goal by myself, sometimes you need to bring others along in your process). Since then, I've dedicated years to becoming more outgoing, meeting new people, and overall trying to be more social... even if it's not natural for me. It can be very exhausting sometimes playing the human game for long periods of time, but at the same time it's also very rewarding because I wouldn't have connected with such interesting people otherwise. I am motivated to keep improving in my social skills because I know that it will help greatly in the future and I'll be in a better position to achieve the greater goal :) At first, in certain settings, I might not seem like an INTJ because I've gotten pretty good at blending in with society/what people expect (adding more facial expressions as I talk to show interest, being more smiley/in a happy mood, etc.) In fact, one person recently described me as "bubbly" after watching my videos which honestly shocked me because deep down I am really not "bubbly" at all. People who actually know me well in person can attest to that. But this example just shows the lengths that INTJs will go to learn something in order to make their grand plan work, even if it's out of their comfort zone.
Yes Lily I couldn't agree more! That's what I started learning as well when I was younger. I had to learn how to human better in order to achieve what I wanted in life. The goal is what forced all of the other functions to happen :)
Exactly
this is similar to my story on "how to effectively human" too. i was confused about my typing cz i come off as warm and easy to talk to(i had high Te and Fe in functions so i went with INxJ). my friends say i "blend in" with others easily. however i only do it as a necessity and taught myself to do it cz i know what they expect like you said. i did it cz it is essential for my goals and only do it when necessary, otherwise it is just exhausting.
And I thought that I was crazy, is just INTJing myself.
Thank God
"INTJing myself" INTJack off?
@@alexeysaranchev6118 Yes
As an intj-t I constantly push myself out of my comfort zone if I think it will help me reach a goal.
The INTJ brain is 🤯 to me as an ENTP! So much depth. So much depth.
I find it SEXY!
Your eyes, those eyebrow movements, especially how you raise your right eyebrow and hints of sardonic smile even when you talk, you're definitely an INTJ.
I know because I am too.
So are you going to develop your theory about corellation between eyebrow raising and INTJness? Because I do that as well.
Ve must measure ze Eyebrau Indeks to determine who ist ein real INTJ und who ist ein dirty smelling Feeler/Senser!
It's funny to read INTJ comments. Sometimes there are similar to INFJ comments about INFJ things.
For INFJ, it's not the eyebrow, it's the eyes, the stare or the avoid eye contact.
The thing that will make an INTJ do something is being told that they would fail if they tried.
I think that's why I had so much trouble typing my girlfriend. She adapts to any and all situations. She's become really good at networking, public speaking, organising others and she's super creative. She's learnt to do a lot of these things since starting her videography business and I'm so proud of her. INTJ's are awesome!
So true. I tend find any social situations akward but after figuring out to analyze every interaction and plan out the interactions people never saw me as an introvert. Like i would play sitmulations in my head on how the conversations would flow. I would recommend this to all INTJs.
Wait could you tell me your theory? I have no idea how to make a system arround this. I am trying this for months now still nothing.
Basically if im meeting like a acquaintance I would plan out the whole night in my head. Like kinda think about the persons interest and develop the conversations from there. I wouldn't talk about myself but rather just ask questions and act interested. If it's a group, i tend to find a role to play within that group. Maybe i would be the jokester or just someone who has a good reaction. Basically just research and play out all the details of social interactions within your head. Kinda fun but i need time to do it again.
Get into that Se. That bastard is great at conversations.
I am driven and competitive i once stayed up for 3 days straight working on something that i was so close to figuring out there was no way i was going to stop. Not sure if that's normal or not but the satisfaction in the end was worth it.
As an INTJ woman, I can.very much relate when you said, "It's not you, its not the man, it's not the guy, its our own (f*cking) theory." It's all in our head. And I will never get influenced to think otherwise unless I'll be proven wrong in the end. Which often don't happen a lot.
The biggest mistake in life is trying not to make any.
Totally the problem of my Life right now : not living it because i over analyse it too much. It's like you got only one shot at life to get the perfect outcome you dreamnt about, so you end up only dreaming about it and not living it...
I'm 23 and feel like i've experienced such a small fraction of what life has to offer, when other people in their 20's are all travelling/partying/having new relationships, I'm just here year after year in my room, doing nothing of my life.
Anybody else can relate ? Any tips ?
Life is a journey of constantly attuning our reality :)
Do your best in everything you do but realize that nothing is perfect. Have a passion about everything you do but not an obsession. What helped me at first is having a "I dont give a crap how much quality I put into the work or project" specifically homework in school years. Then just applying that idgaf mentality to other stuff but still giving it decent effort to make it passable quality work or effort. Eventually you will find happiness on just living in the moment and not being as ocd cuz perfection is just a theory and being human is real. Being human is what makes us imperfect, makes us funny, makes us angry, makes us have emotions that only human are mainly capable of. We dont have to be emotionless just because we want to obtain perfection which in theory is to not being human in the first place. Doing will become easier with practice. It almost requires less analyzing and a little less thinking. Hope this helps
Actually,I can relate to it and also I'm 15.I don't really want to interact with people but I suggest you to write novel or something or Just learn the martial arts such as Aikido like I did.
You're playing a chess while refusing to make a move, that's why you feel like you're losing.
Cuz you have all these rules but you don't make a move and then you think you're suppose to make a move.
Sometimes it's not going to go our way and we either do our best to accept that we lose while learning from it or die wrecklessly right away.
Overthinking is good but if it is not aligned with the rules you have, you're gonna have to change them rules or play by the rules.
Or just like the other dude said,
Add goals to your life so you realize you're making a progress.
Sometimes we can get lost.
Like maybe you haven't set a goal in your life and you wonder why you're going nowhere.
So you gotta be sure on what you want.
If you did set a goal then you should realize how making mistakes can improve your decision making next time.
There is nothing more motivational for me than the opportunity to come up with a theory that illustrates something in a new way.
1:02 I would say this is very true, the stereotype of 'oh you must be a scientist or a CEO or inventor or...' Well, I work in hospitality. My verbal IQ being higher than average (not a brag, even if I was just average half the people would still be worse than me) allows me to be 'the negotiator' with guests and customers that are trying to be Karens. Sometimes in hospitality you have to give in if you fucked up. However, if Karens are being Karens I am the manager/supervisor that tricks them into admitting they were wrong and getting them to calm themselves down. And no one gets to yell at my team. They have to face me. My superiors are an INFP and an ESTJ respectively, they let me get away with murder (metaphorical) as long as the corpses don't show up in their morgues.
The four most dangerous words to me: "I need your help" .. because I know there is value there and someone has recognized the value in my training/study (it validates all the work and the time).
The eight most pleasant words: "I couldn't have done it without your help" ... because I know I succeeded (it validates all the work and the time).
(I chose my current profession in part because someone said that to me when I was working it in a .. skilled amateur context)
When the goal is key, and all things can and will be sacrificed to achieve it, anyone recognizing the value of the goal is validating not only the goal, but your entire thought process and judgement infrastructure; that is to say, essentially, your life.
What is your profession?
It's all about "The Thing" in the end, and getting there as efficiently as possible. Excellent job with the lighting, as a side note. Your video quality, no surprise, is on a course of continuous improvement. ;)
Thanks Dave :) Yes I hope to have a more permanent studio in the future so I'm not playing the lighting setup game every time. Kind of the hard thing about living in a single bedroom home lol
With me, it's more along the lines of "my path in reality is blocked, and here's a detour that will get me to where I want to go." I don't really view an alternative as a tool, but more as a less efficient path to my ultimate goal.
I think we sort of hate feelings in general unless they're happy or accomplishment oriented feelings. We translate people so much so well, and like data, that their messy feelings sometimes get in the way! It only makes sense to stop and digest distortion to create the emotional opportunity to move on to intellectual clarity. We are human after all! And so we naturally want what best for others and their "feelings".
Very much agreed. So many of my choices for personal development are instigated and sustained by how they fit into my larger framework of understanding. Seemingly disparate things make sense in the right combinations and in the right context.
The biggest fear (or probably just one of the biggest fears) in my life, I think, is getting to that end point and going, "huh.... what next???" Without another one I'm already working through in place.
my theory is man you have smoking EYEBROWS
Oh wow I’m flattered!
@@InternetLiJo Was my first thought too, I'm jealous girl!
@@InternetLiJo Is there any correlation with the brows and type:?)
we are addicted to "solving the root to desired outcome". obsessed. LOL
Feeling called out lol
THIS IS BLOWING MY MIND--I mean, the drive and the acknowledgement of skill acquisition/"steps in the process" being important to attain an end goal is relatable in an uncanny way, but the way it's applied and the possibilities of your (the INTJ'S) particular application and the PERSPECTIVE that that application could create/fuel of the world as you perceive it is very fascinating. ...dang. Also, snark tank episodes are lit. 🦈🔥
I'm glad you let the concept sink in and found it interesting!! It's been such a strange process learning how to explain things that are unique to the only way I've ever known my brain to work. Through our own perspective, our cognition is obvious. So why would we talk about something that seems so obvious! Ah content creation, It's such an interesting journey lol. I'm still learning how to do it.
@@InternetLiJo well, I can certainly say as the viewer that it's quite the interesting process to behold. From an Infj standpoint, my end goal tends to focus more in on the "how best can I care for/create environments in which this person/group/myself can thrive and bring their/my best self forward." I think also because I know the heartbreak when abstract ideals don't translate for different reasons in reality ("the gap between"), I appreciate even more that drive and conviction that you've expressed to push forward and try to attain what you set your mind to anyways. So, all that to say, keep crushin it, because I always look forward to your vids.
I've been thinking heavily about this for the last few years, and you're the first person who I've watched who discussed it.
I know this won't apply to everyone, but I think my end game was/is freedom.
In the video, you mention learning something NOW because it might be useful in the FUTURE. I took this to an extreme. My skills have reached a decent level in a multitude of areas. I will take the time to learn a side skill simply to secure the possibility of a potential use case in the future. I hate getting rid of useful things and will take the time to fix broken things if I can to secure the possibility of a potential use case in the future. I will take the time to rearrange my current setup or create a new setup to secure the possibility of a potential use case in the future. I'll spend a whole day in a video game collecting resources to secure the possibility of a potential use case in the future. Etc...
I think that ultimately, I was trying to free myself from the shackles of momentary ignorance and/or momentary deficits in supplies or materials. I am committed to a future where I can realize my inspirations in real time. I didn't want to be encumbered with the basics of drawing when I see a picture in my head. I don't want to get stuck learning how to think like a programmer when I get an idea for a new app. I don't want to forget a melody in my head because I can't match the notes to the keys. I don't want to put off a robotics project because I don't have the right microcontroller or enough wires and components. Etc...
I wanted/want to be free.
I think the intj mind is in constant search of over arching themes and patterns so that it can deduce conclusions that are masterfully efficient and timelessly relevant. In time, we become the manifestation of painstakingly crafted plans and systems. We morph ourselves into the protagonists of our own endgame/endgames. And, in the process, we dedicate ourselves to overcoming the basic limitations of our species.
The theory is as much of a personality style, as much as it is a life path, as much as it is a lifelong experiment.
As Special Agent Oso the animated bear put it: "It's all part of the plan, more or less."
Thank you for making this video. God bless you!
The best way to get me to do something is just probably tell me I can't or won't have the time. I will find a way or learn a way to do it. Work as an auto technician because I love puzzles and trying to make something work properly, plus there is always something new to learn
Ye, this is trick. You don't have time? Well, you bet I have plenty! But as long as you are aware it doesn't work any more.
I have a list of random jobs I would like to try out, and auto technician is on it 😅
INTP if this happens, then I’ll do this
INTJ I’ll make this happens, if I do this.
how do i thank you!! this video singlehandedly solved my doubts about typing myself. i've been at it for like a month now, studying everything n binging videos to figure out my type. i scored highest Ni and lowest Se on cognitive functions but with weirdly strong Te and Fe so i was going by INxJ. internet says INTJs aren't emotional further confusing me but i learnt that they aren't expressive but ARE emotional about what they care.
anyway, you just made me realise WHY my Fe may be high. i didn't fit in with my classmates and wanted to cz it's beneficial to gain support for school so i started analysing them and learnt their ways, participated in everything that could build up my social skills and now it comes naturally to me like a tool i can use whenever needed. i ended up having so many acquantainces but even then had like 5 friends. socialising is extremely draining but now i can network wherever needed cz i know how to. guess i'm an emotionally aware INTJ afterall.
I really like the way you explain things. My older sister that I grew up with is an INTJ, so listening to you talk is familiar and oddly comforting as well as informative. I am an INFP. Learning about the INTJ made me realize why she is soooo good at everything she does.
How you feel being her sister?
@@celine7home I LOVE being her sister. She's three years older and has been my protector and teacher since I was born. Life was never boring because she was always thinking up projects and fun things do, back in the day before video games, computers and cable tv.
In order to make this human understand what I mean, I have to use emotions. And that's exhausting.
Am I the only once that noticed how excited she was just thinking about getting to that end result, the intoxication of it?
There is no greater rush then reaching milestones inching closer to that outcome. That old saying "I'm so close I can taste it." The excitement when your so close at the precipice is like right before, well, my intj's know what I what I'm saying.
I used to get into a slump each time after Id reach my goal. I finally reserved myself to "this is just my life and I'm going to chase goals until the day I die." So now in my current life I set what would be completions as just milestones which contributes to the next project. There's so many things to do and accomplish. So many records to break, so many preconceived thoughts to smash so many minds to be blown. I live to show people what's possible to inspire them to reach a higher level.
I've always loved doing something mind blowing then hearing about what I did later from people that didn't know me. best. feeling. ever.
The best part was in my mind I would be thinking "you should see my next trick". No INTJ go backwards. If we accomplish something unthinkable you can bet the next thing we are working on will be even more intense.
If people only knew. Also, I don't think I've ever seen any of us deny the world domination end goal either haha.
As a INTJ as a stock trader I have been damn lucky to find
the perfect space to succeed and enjoy myself.
The way you delivered it. Trying to put your perception into words and putting it in such a way that the other person understands was so so relatable. The delivery and the body language. Deviation of any kind would result in a mess of a discussion, of which you have a deep understanding from your perspective, while others are lost. It has to be precise enough from your own perspective. I don't know if this is common for INTJ's but I could see a reflection of myself in there.
This little video is an excellent example of the INTJ's ability and enjoyment in "dialoging at the 7th plane of reality".
I followed causal chain of my motivation to the point that I cannot go deeper. And concluded that it was to find the meaning of our existence. Every deliberate action I take is somehow serving to this purpose.
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This is interesting because I've often wondered why INTJs can be so much better at "switching on the charm" than I am (an INFP). I know and have known some INTJs intimately and it's like they can turn into another person sometimes (but only on the surface). I've given up on attempting charm, so I just stick to politeness to play it safe.
Yes! We do have this chameleon like ability that we can turn on for a short period of time.
Lindsey, this video was pure crack for me 🤣😂🤣😂 I don't think I have ever tapped on a play button faster. And as I was listening to you I started laughing at myself and was like, "Duh!". You know when you see something obvious and it goes right over your head... well. I think I have been doing this with my INTJs for years now. It's so silly because I function in a very similar fashion to you guys. 🙈🤦🏼♀️ What can I say? If you are slow, you are slow 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the video and all your hard work.
Haha thanks Suzy! Remind me of your type again? ENTJ?
@@InternetLiJo Pleasure! Yep, I'm ENTJ.
Suzy Wilson your profile image didn’t give it away at all 😉 lol
@@InternetLiJo Not at all! I'm stealth that way 🙈😜🤣🤣🤣
Insightful video. I don't know if it's obvious how this relates to it but I think it does: I don't necessarily care so much about the process of how to get from point A to point B (B being my vision or the thing I want) as much as I care about the results. So it's not too much of a problem to try various strategies that look almost conflicting superficially. So maybe I seem one way in one context and another in a different context, I'm just trying different things/using different cognitive functions, but it's all about how I wanted things to ultimately end up. If I need to straighten out an issue at work, for example, maybe I could pick up the phone and make some calls, or I could go behind the scenes and fix some things myself- and I do option A one day and option B the next; my process and behavior could be inconsistent but they both have the same result of fixing the problem. Or sometimes I'll intentionally do something for a few days and then not do it the next few days just to keep people on their toes and not assume I will/won't do it, and it's not that my mood is so inconsistent, it's all part of the bigger picture. You can have a vision with Ni, but sometimes it's by experimenting with Se in the real world that you discover one process ends up being more efficient with less collateral complications.
I thought we agreed at the last secret INTJ guild meeting that you wouldn't be telling the Muggles any more of our secrets.
Good comment....i approve
@@cawhitley7644 thanks, CA.
I agree
@@himanifafale6315 thanks, kid.
@@cawhitley7644 amethyst.
Therory: if i go fully plant based & live a completely higher vibrational lifestyle & master monk like discipline, sales, tech & marketing then make my first million in ecom & affiliate marketing I can go on after that and build me a Ben 10 like Omnitrix in the future so that I can transform into different deities & become another one of or great INTJ inventors like Nikola Tesla
Go for it! I'll see you at the top ;)
Im thinking more of an anemic shut in like Howard Hughes.
Troy Westerbur explain
@@Ontec. Howard Hughes was a wealthy man that locked himself in a screen room for 4 months. He was reclusive. He lived in a hotel and never opened the drapes. He designed aircraft. He crashed an airplane and sufferd lots of pain. He was also very OCD. Anemia comes from not getting enough Iron to produce red blood cells. This can be brought on by not eating meat.
@@troywesterbur706 Just looked him up, but with a basic Google Search of him & what you said, that's not higher vibrational. Living in a hotel, never opening drapes & not eating healthy is very lower. That's why I said "Higher Vibrational Lifestyle" & Operating at a higher state of consciousness & to do that I'd have to be in a certain environment & do certain activities like exercising, meditating, sun gazing etc in addition to the diet.The environment is way more important than the diet. Could eat moderately healthy & still feel abundant if you're in an abundant environment. Gotta take care of the mind body & soul. IE a Holistic Christ Like lifestyle. The money is not more important to me than my healthy. It would just give me infinite freedom & power to do what I want in the lifetime.
I'm in school. I'm extremely intelligent yet I am struggling because I don't work. This video is helping me understand why I'm not excelling the way I can and you are 100% correct. The fact that I'm not doing it for myself is why I'm not doing it
Beautiful and elegant analysis of processes, tools and goals; is very accurate and satisfying. For me your INTJ videos are like free self-analysis sessions, thanks :)
i really enjoy the conversation which is filled with high level of imagination and creativity that produce a unique theory.so i respect every own damn thing theory👍
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You give me the words to express what has been going on in my mind. This is amazing, thanks.
I am laughing as it is like listening to myself thinking and looking in the mirror. You are spot on!
It's something I did when I noticed I was deficient in human interactions - studied and developed a system to become proficient at them, read books like "How to Win Friends and Influence People", gained an understanding of the most important fundamentals, learned and tested the principles. Now I have this tool to use. Same goes for anything that is nescessary to get to the vision.
Also: Fi and Se can also be used to reinforce the drive towards goals and the vision.
that was a delicious glass of Ni, it feeds my Ne
You are definitely an INTJ.... and oh how I know and understand the constantly changing rabbit hole of cause and effect!
It makes sense. So to make an INTJ do something beyond their capabilities, I think that they have to alter a little bit of their theory or the process to the end goal right?
Yes!
Interesting. As an INFP to do anything, I just have to change my value system a little bit and believe it whole heartdly and there I go doing a new thing.
IDK if there is any sensible limit for INTJ. It depends on an individual.
It sure depends on one person's mindset and how much they are willing to change their theory (4 an INTJ)
Great video as always, we all often have to use functions that don't naturally come to us, and for me that end goal is exactly what can get me to do anything, as is the case with the development or use of these functions. Especially because the jobs that I want require some functions that don't come naturally to me more heavily than the ones that do. People see me differently than what I think of myself, because of this percieved proficiency with other functions at certain times, this usually makes me happy as that means I've succeeded in developing those functions. So yeah, I agree, to me that end goal is the hottest thing ever and can get me to do anything ;)
Well spoken. I've been told I am and INFJ, but yet I can identify with this premise as well. I spent 20 years working at 911 and , when training people there, I would tell them .."Look, don't think one step ahead when planning calls. Think two or three steps ahead to prepare yourself if "This happens, or that happens"...Hence, a theoretical plan in worst case scenarios. Well done lady.
Omg, this was on the money. Obsessed with finding the path to get to the desired outcome. 100%. This is kind of like when Apples would run a Windows operating system by essentially mimicking the actions of windows without it actually being windows (at least how I remember the specifics). I'm an entrepreneur INTJ, and this is how I make pitches to investors, et al. I do not like to give them, and I'm not really directly talented for it, but I can create a system that produces results that are essentially the same as what a proficient person's would be. The problem usually is the mental energy burn rate is intense... it wipes me out.
Definitely! and I have two other things, one is for little people that I love(like getting out or wasting some time) and the other thing is to not to depend on people in doing things for me.
alternate title: LiJo uses several similar analogies and the audience can take care of their own sensory examples lol. i think i just noticed that, this channel is like teamwork where the content provides a concept/pattern/lesson and everyone down here connects it to their personal lives. pretty fascinating.
I am learning well about INTJs due to your videos.
Thank you 😊❤
Thanks Omar!
@@InternetLiJo ❤❤
Accurate. I'm not INTJ, but this accurately describes the motivation of a super successful INTJ friend of mine.
0:30 I'm pretty sure all NT types do this. It's just the INTJs and ENTJs that actually act on their plans. INTPs and ENTPs tend to just think about them until they get bored and move onto another theory.
Very insightful LiJo. I completely get what your saying. But I fear most others, will not really get what your saying. Oh and by others I mean other personality types.
#endhatrednow
If they don't understand, that's ok. If a few more people in the world understand though as a result of this video, it's done its job.
@Serra 힘 Heïmgardé For the past three years I've imagined it as being a campaign slogan most likely to defeat Trump during his reelection bid. Also of note, since we only really have control or dominion over our own minds and actions, #endhatrednow is about looking inwards to identify and conquer whatever hatred may lay within our own hearts. This way we can lead by example and inspire those around us to do likewise. In a way, it's a twist on the whole pay it forward idea.
Anyways, ciao for now. And I hope you day treats you well.
12/10 - this is spot on
I can see how all the other MBTIs’ are getting confused and still don’t know how to make us do whatever they want.
Totally enjoying that you spoke completely in generalities, without using one concrete example. Yep, this video spoke to me.
Agreed. At the end of high school I discovered a passion for investing and it's led me to opportunities most people will never see.
Idea, plan of action (which can be long or ...longer to be completely obtained...🧐)😊...preparation and action towards the goal.
During the the whole process not only we will go through any difficulty, learning curve and experience and making ours what we learn...but we usually improve on our plan constantly.
Yes always refining :)
@@InternetLiJo hahahahahahahahahah yes
Yup, pretty much nailed it!
I'm happy enough with pretty much 😉
Strategic thinking for a possible Strategy that has to be activated if current strategy needs a course correct. See problem before they surface and prevent the negative future correspondences so the present can be smooth as possible all with the end point in focus.
I’ve been reading a lot about the Socratic method. I dig it because, in a nutshell, it’s the idea that the validity of something is poked and prodded almost endlessly until a contradiction can be found within the “something’s” essence.
And one of the best ways to find a contradiction (or at least a weakness) within a “something” is to take its core essence (the rules and conditions it lives by) and apply it to something different entirely.
If this “something’s” essence is true and accurate, then it’s applicability to other “something’s” SHOULD yield similar if not identical results. It’s consistent. And constant. It’s true and accurate.
But if those same rules and conditions are applied elsewhere and you find that this new “something” falls flat on its face with the original “something’s” rules and conditions - it doesn’t work. And so it’s essence should be discarded and new rules and conditions should be drawn up.
In relation to your video - I’m finding this rule of applicability is making it so that I find errors almost EVERYWHERE. It’s as if this rule of applicability (if A + B = C works here, then let’s see if it works there, too) is beginning to unmask contradictions I had only intuitively noticed, but never organically understood, in and of itself.
And so I feel like this applicability rule you touch on is actually producing the OPPOSITE effect in that rather than finding a rule of applicability that will allow me to get to the desired effect, I find flaw within the rule of applicability and find that the “desired effect” is no longer desired. Because it’s based on a set of rules and regulations that are riddled with holes one can drive an 18 wheeler through.
The argument I most hear against my thinking is that it’s known as “false equivalency;” I call it some variation of “double standard;” “hypocrisy;” “convenient applicability;” etc.
Needless to say, I’m beginning to find desire for fewer and fewer things these days.
I’m great at parties:)
thank you for making this video, it really help me to understand myself better.
That solve my problem.I understand myself better now.Thanks!
In 5 minutes, you described my entire life!
I do this quite often. I often see myself with a deck of cards, if I play a specific card in a specific situation then I have a specific probability of achieving a specific result/goal with each card having a specific probability and a specific consequential outcome.
This blessing quickly becomes a curse, when you make an idol of the "perfect plan," hold on to it for dear life, and then take it personal when others won't do the same. Sometimes it's about humbling yourself, because how "perfect" is the plan if it lacks flexibility and input from others.
My brain just went hyperactive with this video. Now I don't know if it's from paranoia or amazement.
lol you to.
Lol... tell me more.
@@InternetLiJo I am wondering who has done that to me over the years now lol Paranoia setting in again.
"We are addicted to solving the rout to the desired outcome"
A d d i c t e d !
All my life, no one has ever figured out why I am weirdly nice to creating a good version of how I want things to be in other to reach my end goal. I even had to learn about emotions and read a lot about psychology because I will need the circle of people I am currently working with in 3 years to come and they know nothing about it and I don't care. I can't wait for these faked emotions I give off to end because I hate it. Because in the society I am born into people like me are easily called witches and quickly ostracized and I need these people in order to reach my end goal. The pain!!!!
I like that. The steps to get to the desired outcome.
INTJ here. Yup. This is pretty true. We are just if-then statements with crippling anxiety and stupid bad luck that we try to compensate for.
I remember my classmates saying that I just exude a very extroverted charm to lead a group but got confused when they learned that I don't even remember the names of the people in that said group, and it took me 2 weeks to remember them as I'm not really interested to befriend them but to just lead and finish the whole ordeal.
Every INTJ let their emotions shine through their eyebrows movements. And I said that while raising one of my eyebrows 🤨
I absolutely love the *Long game! but first to have a long game there needs to be a goal. I have recently found myself void of a key goal. Not because i never had one, but because i just reached a big one.
I am stuck, genuinely stuck! The business is still moving forward, the marriage n home life is good, my faith is intact, yet i feel directionless.
So, i am planning a week away to brainstrom, while fishing, solo camping & touching base with my "where to next & how that looks, ultimately, how that plays out, what new skills i will need, resources & realistic timeframes against small acheivable steps.
There is nothing more frustrating to an INTJ than being goal less!
Absolutely spot on. I lean on extroverted behaviours because they are needed as part of the process. I factor in the recovery time to recuperate energy depletion as a result of the overwhelming nature to dig into those unnatural tools. It's just a necessary evil to get from A to B.
I tell people all the time everything ever made was designed. The thought process behind work or anything for that matter should be done with that very theory in mind. That is the true bridge in problem solving.
Everything's an equation or tool for INTJs, there's always only one outcome, everything is black and white, no flexibility. I just ended a long friendship with an INTJ because I didn't feel understood, I felt like I had been put in a box with labels and "figured out" so to speak - so whenever I acted outside of those expectations, there was always something "wrong" (and probably emotional) that needed to be discussed, worked through, and corrected. Because obviously emotions are bad and should not interfere with behavior....uh huh. :( It's nice most of the time, to have structure and unwavering logical support. But sometimes you just need a little more Fe in the mix...
Sincerely,
An Fe/Ti user
I'm sorry to hear about your negative experience with an INTJ. Sounds like they didn't possess at least Cognitive Empathy to be able to process Emotions Intelligently and Logically. Not everyone is like that but it depends on one's upbringing, be it by self family education or experience.
@@Mary-Ann_B_Mabaet thanks for your response, I hardly remember writing this comment. We've actually recuperated our friendship and it's stronger than ever after learning some tough lessons. 🙂
Wow, I can see your enthusiasm talking about this idea. It must've been, with all reason, a special breakthrough to you. You have this facial expression of *NOW I'M GONNA BLOW YOUR MIND, INTERNET FRIEND*. And, once again, you did. :)
I think more focus needs to be brought to this mind you have, by many, many other Americans in this country.
Rooting things is so good
I feel very well when I do it
as always, precise in explaining. This video showed me the mystic reputation of Ni. HERE ARE THE QUESTIONS:
So, does this mean that you have multiple threads of how stuff work? so for example there's a thread of information organized on what are the steps on "pleasing the theatre audience". then a different thread exists for "how you should manage your money until the rent pay?" And if for example people ask you how to be thrifty, That thriftiness steps already exists in between the thread of "how to manage your money until the rent pay" so thats reusability. What about stuff that you havent theorized yet, how does theorizing start?
This is crazy. you don't even have to consciously know the inner workings? it just works. I very clearly see the Ni way now. I will need your confirmation if I interpretted it correctly. Also, Awesome content, what are you doing this OPS thing for then?
This video is exactly the reason why I think INTJs can fit in any field and have any career they want. They can be good at everything if there are motivates like interest, knowledge, plan, theory etc.
True! Sometimes we will decide that proving the theory isn't worth the struggle but when it is... world watch out lol
This is so true! I have learned to observe people and imitate them, it's hard but it's helped me a lot during social situations with people I'm unfamiliar with.
Not even one minute in I already feel like she broke me down 😂
That explains how fast I cut off a long-term relationship without any emotion in just a few day. Because I accidentally found out the blind spot of this relationship, when the theory I made up was gone..the relationship was over.
Man I've watched some of your videos and this one just hit different. I related to much and feel like I'm part of the stereo type.
YES! I have even had to reject things I'm good at, when I was trying to figure out a basis for starting a business, because I realized I don't actually like or want to do any of those things. I had just learned and became good at them to serve my greater purpose. I've definitely learned many things this way. But they are not at the root of what I actually care about. They are just a means to an end.
Lijo that is a nice one again. I always tend to compare INTJ(5) brain to AI neural network. Pick a goal gather most valuable data arround the subject. Find the appropriate recurrent patterns. Make a the most efficient plan to reach that goal. But do it in your way (fi ♡) = the thing that currently make us different from AI.
To that extent i will advice any INTJ to watch this movie HER. It is a juicy mix of Fi _Ni _Te plaisur.