What If Fantasy Model Kits #8
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- This video is part 8 in the ongoing series of imaginary model kits that I wish had been made when I was a kid growing up in the 1970s.
There were lost of sci-fi movies in the wake of Star Wars and many got model kits - not always good ones - but something you could build and hold in your hands!
I am very fond of all the subjects included here. Not every movie had the luxury of the same level of talent or time that Stanley Kubrick administered when making '2001:A Space Odyssey'.
I imagine there will be some people who will offer alternatives for the 'Hobby Link' kits - I am thinking of you Max, but I think this credible enough. ish. I hope.
Here is a link to the excellent 'Max's Models' channel; / @maxsmodels
Some of the subjects here, and in other parts - have since been produced as 'garage kits' in resin. vac-form or nowadays probably 3D prints. This video is about what 10 year old me wanted to see on the shelves in the local hobby shops in the 1970s.
running time is 13 minutes
* There is a mistake at 10:38 - Richard Skotak should say Robert Skotak.
Love the idea of putting the box art together and make a big scene, excellent concept, well done. Thanks for the lovely video, take care
Thanks. It is the sort of thing I can imagine someone doing. The Aurora dinosaurs had diorama bases that could all be connected which I always thought was cool. Including the map of them all was an additional incentive to purchase more kits.
@@Matteline yes I remember the dinosaur bases interlocking, your idea of the box art would make a nice wall display though :) take care
What about all those non existent 2000AD models????
A wealth of options there!
Another great one Mat.
Thanks Max!
You know what's weird? I've had dreams where I'm in a hobby store, and I find all sorts of kits that I've always wanted to have. Like kits of obscure robots, all the other ships from Space 1999, etc.
These would ALL have been great kits! Sign me up especially for "War Rocket Ajax," as well as the Imperial Ship used by Ming, and the wasp-like ship of General Klytus! And is it just me, or does the rocket used by Dr. Zarkov in the movie, (not shown here, but I'll take one of those, too,) look a little like the SpaceX Dragon? And yes, I would also snap-up that "Josie's Spaceship" at 10:18, as well . . . .
"Stella Star's Spaceship" shown at 8:44 is intriguing on several levels. For one thing, I can't recall Italeri ever making any Space/SF kits. At least, I've never seen any in my local hobby shops.
If I may make a suggestion for a future "Fantasy Model Kits" video, I'd been watching the Alternate History show, "For All Mankind," and it made me wonder what the kits in the Hobby Shops of that alternate timeline would have looked like? For example, the Monogram "First Lunar Landing" kit could not be called that since the first Lunar landing was made by the Soviet Union. The Monogram kit of the American LEM would have probably not included a base since the US' first Lunar landing was a bit . . . undignified. But maybe an included Diorama Tip Sheet by Shep Paine's counterpart could have shown the builder how to accurately model the collapsed landing gear. I also imagine kits of NASA's LEM follow-on, the LSAM, as well as other kits of the alternate timeline's hardware. (1/144 scale Sea Dragon, anyone . . . ?)
I'm American, but I know the basics about the Gunpowder Plot and Guy Fawkes. (Thank you, Alan Moore.) That would have made an awesome Hammer Film back in the day!
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This was awesome! The combined boxset art was a stroke of genius and if you want to show off more hypothetical poster art, you're more than welcome!
I would have loved to have seen the ship from Galaxina released in kit form.
That ship is a really cool design.
Always amuses me to see a pair of Panzer III drive sprockets on the back of tge Cylon Raider ship. For the future can I suggest Dan Dare's space ship Anastasia from the Eagle comic. Such wonderful illustrations. Thanks for another great video!
The 'Dan Dare - pilot of the future' Haynes manual would be an excellent source.
However my vote is for the Zylbat, especially if made by Jetex!
@@davidhadaway9311 these designs were really well thought out
How about a range of Tintin kit boxart. Heller might have done these. You could have the Moon Rocket (1/144), the Lunar Rover (1/72) and that shark-like submarine (1/72). Probably have to think about how the 'realistic' vehicles would work with the 'cartoon' figures, or just avoid figures on the artwork.
The rocket and the Submarine are both classics!
@@Matteline these are available as models, not as kits though but ready-built
Timeless Hobbies in the UK are currently offering a 3D printed Ajax model (tell Tony I sent you!!!!) and Fantastic Plastic did a kit of Nell's Starfighter.
Timeless Hobbies; is that Tony James company?
@@Matteline it is indeed!
I found an old Fairy Liquid bottle among some junk thrown out from a house clearance, and am slowly converting it into a model of War Rocket Ajax after watching the old Flash Gordon film (Although what scale it would be is beyond me right now).
SO delighted to see how many amazing ideas you come up with in your videos 🙂
Truly inspiring content, as always 😀
Thanks for watching. It is really hard to gauge the size. I think I may have overestimated it a bit. It could be more the size of a B-29. I think there is a resin kit (or two) out there. Whomever made that may have figured out the scale.
@@Matteline War Rocket Ajax fuselage is much greater diameter than a B-29 fuselage; it has to be in order to have those recessed walkways each side with interior rooms and corridors between the walkways. B-29 fuselage is a skinny little thing. Note that Ajax side walkway galleries are rather taller than door height which human crew can stand up straight and pass through. Find online clips of Hawkmen attacking it, they show the size.
Neat project! War Rocket Ajax is a favorite sci-fi ship. Success to ya! 🚀
When I was a kid, in the late 70s early 80s, I remember there being a television childrens show called "Jason Of Star Command".
It was low budget, yet the spaceship designs were interesting and had similar aesthetics to those of Battle Beyond The Stars.
I don't recall Jason of Star Command being shown here in the UK, but I have seen several episodes. The main ship - sorry I don't know its name - has the front section of the Ark2 vehicle and the rest of the body seems to be made largely from a Saturn V kit.
Now I want to see these kits unboxed
Me too!
Superb, as always. It's really funny, because I remember watching 'Battle Beyond The Stars', and loving it - it is a really cool movie, well worth a few hours of your time, by the way, and remember talking to friends about it, and bemoaning the lack of merchandise. I think that, had Roger Corman, whose movies (of any kind) made my growing up a whole lot more fun, licenced model kits, and, better still, action figures (which 16 year old wouldn't want a Saint Exmin figure?) to companies like MPC and Mego, he'd have made a fortune, on top of what the movie took; I went and saw it five or six times on release - I doubt I was alone, either.
Great video. I'm always in awe of your work.
Tidy. 👌👌👌
Modern movies could learn a lot from this film. It's a really tight screenplay, and all the scenes with Shad enlisting the team are just long enough. The old Hitchcock thing of 'come into a scene as late as you can and get out as early as you can without losing anything'..
@@Matteline It is a tight screenplay because it is a calque of magnificent seven, which is a calque of seven samurai.
@ZygonesBzygones Well I take your point. They definitely had a head start tha ks to thw plagiarism. But nevertheless there is good original writing in there too.
Flash Gordon has the thickest matte lines in the history of cinema
Well that's an 'honour' that has more than a few films vieing for top.slot. (many of which I love). 'Flash Gordon'.is definitely up there. 'Fantastic Voyage' and 'The Ten Commandments' too. 'Conquest of Space'has more mattelines and a veritable smorgasbord of optical snafus (fascinating to watch). But I think you are right... there are so many shots and almost all of them have thick black mattelines.... and / or are.see through.. Incidentally, I read that a numbet of the hawkmen shots were pre-comped on video then put to film. Good Times!
Fantastic😊
always a pleasure.
thanks for reminding us about "battle beyond the stars" and "starcrash".
interestingly, marjoe gortner, who stars in the second one, looks very much like david hasselhoff
Marjoe Gortner was great in 'Earthquake' in one of the 'B' storylines.
I’ve always wondered if Nell was originally designed to be the Valkyrie ship (hence the “rounded protrusions”) but only became the heroes ship because it was way cool!
Yeh, I wonder. Alhough the character of Nell is definitely a sassy, take charge kind of gal. If she were a real person, she would have been quite something in her youth. I think the design really fits the character perfectly.
@@Matteline Not everything will have been developed in one linear go anyway. One could also say she literally is “John Boy’s” mothership but with those shapes that would make it a bit oedipedal to my taste (is that actually an English word at all?) So my theory might still be called somewhat plausible. On the other hand the Valkyrie ship is martial enough to fit that character. But it does not have the same “lungs” it’s pilot has while “the ship forthwith to be known as Nell” clearly has. But hey. Maybe I am the mammal here! 😋
@@marcbrasse747 It is just oedipal - oedipedal means you have a sore foot.
I too was convinced that the ship with the boobs went with the shield maiden.
@@ZygonesBzygones 😅🤣🤣🤣 Hilarious! I should have looked for the translation just a little bit longer. No wonder I had trouble with finding the right spelling. It does however figure because the Dutch word is "oedipaal". On the other hand that made it extra easy to cram in a few extra letters. In dutch that would then namely have become "oedipedaal"! Thanks for the correction and supporting my theory. 😄
Another great episode of what-if model kits. I would certainly have puchased some of them!
Starcrash was fun to watch, resembling Italian peplum movies but in outer space! However, the models were terrible! Compete sprues just stuck in place and random kit parts glued with no inspiration whatsoever!
A movie for your next series could be the Time Machine from 1960. although plasti kits were just starting to be commonplace then, the film was immediately a classic and might have interfered model companies a few years later. Aurora could well have produced a Morlock trying to grab Weena! A model of the miniature Time Machine with a bent cigar as experimental passenger would surely have been popular!
Stracrash is quite something. Making movies is really hard and I tried to be kind.. apparently the guys making the models really had no experience in film or vfx and just jumped in. But yeh, the models when seen in close up especially are.laughable. the clip.I included of the ship.with all the Eagle Transport parts, it really jumped off the screen and it is such a small model too that it just looks small. In every respect it looks like exactly what it is.
I love the George Pal Time Machin movie. The machine itself is a classic and would itself to a kit. I think it would have to be the same size of George's wonderful table-top model, but would include a figure of the traveller as well. I think it would be about 12th scale.
@@Matteline The model in the film was indeed 1/12. Interestingly it has some differences with the full size one. Most obvious is the absence of the armrests and understandably the cage around the red bulb is also absent.
Great movies , and the drawings look great 🙂
You need to 3D print some of these sir, complete the cycle in both design & construction. Keep up the good work. I particularly like the complementarity branding, e.g. Italeri.
Thank You for the feedback... I keep meaning to look into 3D printing.
I really enjoyed this, thank you - it took me right back to my childhood! I'd suggest making the Nestor ship in glow-in-the-dark plastic and treating that as an extra feature?. The Josie ship was a nice bonus too.
Thanks for watching. I thought about a glow in the dark option, but in line with the 'Roger Corman' cheap-o origins I figured that might be too complicated or too expensive. In hindsight, as i had put rainbow effect decals in Gelt's ship I should have included some 'rainbow effect decals/stickers' that could be put strategically on certain areas under the clear domes.
The Battle Beyond The Stars effects shots were reused mercilessly in other Corman movies...
I know... I seem to recall a movie (tv movie) that used clips from 'Battlestar Galactica' - the Galactica itself! And ''Battle Beyons The Sars'. I think they had these futuristic 'speeders' that were made from ice rink Zamboni vehicles. As such they 'sped along' at about 5 miles an hour!.awful, glorious fun!
@@Matteline That was Space Mutiny, which was one of the more popular episodes of Mystery Science Theater.
The effects and soundtrack from Battle Beyond the Stars were reused an awful lot.
the YT channel Bad Movie Bible has _all_ the details!
Great artwork. Even the poster was well done. Perhaps doing more as a second theme. I never saw Star Crash but noticed that the ship is called the Murray Leinster. That was the pen name of Sci-Fi writer William Fitzgerald Jenkins who penned the Time Tunnel novels as Murray Leinster.
I have not heard of the Starcrash ships having any names...and I looked. Where did you come across this info?
@@Matteline Watch your video at the Star Crash scene as the big white ship goes by you can see the name Murray Leinster. Time frame 9:35. This was probably an inside joke as a reference to him.
As always fantastic work. Since your going into animation does anyone remember the animated Flash Gordon I remember the ships in that series were interesting.
I remember a feature length cartoon form the late 70s or early 80s and thinking it was pretty good. Great scope , uninhibited by the realities and cost of live action film-making. I don't really recall any of the ship designs. but as I recall it felt like the original 1930s comic strip.
They had a Starcrash screening at the Fox Theatre this past year. I didn't get a chance to see it though.
I am sure it looks magnificent on the big screen!
I always thought the Jose and the Pussycats in Outerspace model would be neat to have.
Till now i thought it was "Warlock and Ajax" 😲 I'm going to listen to Flash right now 😆
...well it is preceded by the line 'what do you mean Flash Gordon reproaching?' Just curious, was this ship Warlock or Ajax? :)
this is what I always heard as well!
@@Matteline its probably the chicks accent
Three great movies, well, cheesy movies, but great fun. Love the connected box art for the complete Battle Beyond the Stars. Ever since Brandon Tenold reviewed the movie, I can't NOT see Nell's similarity to Caroline Munro. 😂
V for Vendetta gave us Americans some small, mostly inaccurate, knowledge about the Eleventh of November to remember. 😅
Caroline Munro or Sybill Danning?
@@Matteline Nell, the ship, has the boobies. But, you're right, I ignored a perfectly good chesticle comparison with Sybil.
My first thought at your answer was whose chest the ship looked more like, and I was - I honestly am not that intimately familiar with either actresses bosom to tell.😂
@@Skaramine I am not that familiar either. I can imagine people making the comparison to Sybil Danning as she was in the movie.
There is a resin model of NELL from 'Starship Modeller' I believe, I am not sure of they make it or just sell it... fantastic-plastic.com/nell---catalog.html
The Emperor Ming : Klytus, I'm bored. What plaything can you offer me today?
Klytus : An obscure body in the S-K System, Your Majesty. The inhabitants refer to it as the planet... "Earth".
I believe Fantastic Plastic had a kit of Nell for sale via there website.
Does anyone else think the Hammerhead looks like the front of the Tantive IV (Blockade Runner) attached to the back of a Star Destroyer without the bridge tower?😮
Yeh, I always thought the Hammerhead looked a lot like the Blockade Runner' from 'Star Wars'.
Another great video. I would certainly want one of those Josie and the Pussycats spaceship kits, if Aurora had ever made it. Your Gunpowder Killers poster is also a great idea. You have given it an X Certificate, but a lot of the Hammer historical films actually only got an A Certificate, or perhaps an AA in the 1970s ?
Good point. I just feel like they always wanted an X!
Nestor's ship...luminous paint would look good in the dark.
There was a model kit molded from glow-in-the-dark plastic, AMT "Interplanetary UFO Mystery Ship"
Apparently based on an unused idea for the original Star Trek show. It was first produced by AMT as "Leif Ericson Galactic Cruiser", in non glowing plastic.
I admit, I love glow-in-the-dark stuff.
@@keithbieberly6445 this ship in turn became an inspiration for a sci fi novel by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle.
I recall seeing the shipment the side of.other Aurora kits - probably the Enterprise and the Klingon Battle Cruiser. It looked like a 'Sar Trek' ship, but it was always a mystery. The Invaders UFO was the same situatjon as I had ne er seen or hears of that TV show. AHH, Aurora packaged all those kits in the UK and certainly fired my imagination with their kits.
The story I had heard was that Matt Jeffries designed for SMT. As AMT was doing kits from Star Trek - and it was someone at AMT who actually designed the Galileo shuttlecraft - there was a relationship there.
@@Matteline AMT offered to build the full-scale prop if they could have the licensing rights for all things ST (on screen or not!)
in fact, since AMT models as sold in the shops were actually used as background models in production (the enterprise in some Trouble with Tribbles shots), it was not too far-fetched for them to just bring out a Jeffreys design and hope for it to turn up in the show at some point
I would imagine a scene in "Gunpowder Killers" like the one in zGame if Thrones where Cersei blew up the Great Sept except this time the crawling monk would reach the candle in time to extinguish it.
The Nestor ship's 'glow' could be done with glow in the dark plastic
Oh the memories !!!!! - not just your (as is always the case) superb paintings & entertaining commentary, but those Star Wars & Dinosaur kits.
Which company released the dinosaur kits in the UK? (you mentioned & showed box art from 2 companies) - I remember them from (maybe) the late 60's?
The 'prehistoric scenes' was AURORA - these have the more exciting artwork. The other were boxed in PYRO or HOBBY LINK and have the more sort of educational (aka dull) artwork.
@@Matteline Apologies - I meant the PYRO or HOBBY LINK ones. Do you know which brand name they were sold under in the UK - or was it BOTH names in the UK?
I'm sorry I don't recall. I recognised the box art, but both look very similar. In a pinch I would say Hobby Link, but I am not sure.
Great video of some fantastic space craft art 👍 and the bonus art is great too
Thank You for watching :)
Always love these. 👍👍👍👍
Another enjoyable episode. Thank you.
Thanks for watching. I'm glad you are enjoying the channel.
Such beautiful work! It makes me sad that the various model companies didn’t have the vision to dive this deep into SF and pure imagination. But the times were changing, kids weren’t buying model kits like they were in the ‘50s and ‘60s (the culture of ‘make your own’ was aging out and the idea that making something that took work and some skill just wasn’t encouraged, plus ‘model glue’ was pushed as bad because of ‘glue sniffing’ ) and since there was an undeniable ‘play’ element in all those sci-fi kits that did get made, many of these dream kits would have been too delicate and finicky.
And of course now, they get made and you’re looking at $50 USD and up. That’s not ‘impulse buy’ money!
Still. Wonderful paintings that fuel imagination. Don’t stop!
I would second stuff from the original Dan Dare strips. Maybe, what about continuations to original kit lines, like an MPC/Airfix Moonbase Alpha laser tank?
Did you do a painting of the ship from Moon Zero-two? I think Airfix for that.
What about a model of a spaceship from that Sci Fi masterpeice, "Flesh Gordon"?
Dr Flexi Jekoff's rocketship maybe?
I started making a model in Blender...i may finish it one day ;-)
J&TPCiOS - an excellent idea a cross between a Saturn V and the Discovery XD1.
Some others to consider - Star Maidens and the Martian Ship from Quatermass
I did the Quatermass ship (from the movie) in an earlier video. Maybe #5? The Star Maidens ship is a possibility. Another one I have my eye on is the ship from.'Captain Zep'.
@@Matteline There is the TV version of the Martian hull from 'Quatermass And The Pit' - it's totally different from the movie version - it's rather phallic, actually, and I'm amazed that it got past those in charge of the BBC in 1959.
You could also have a couple of dioramas from 'The Quatermass Experiment' - the crashed Q1 rocket buried in a house, and, from 'Quatermass II', the Q3 (the Q2 exploded in Australia, when it's atomic drive ran away) on it's launchpad, with the gantry, and circular blast walls, etc.
Also, how about the Zeppelin, from 'The Assassination Bureau'?
Star Maidens... loved that show.
Since Catesby and the othet Gunpowder plotters (except Fawkes) dued in a burning barn,, Hammer could have finushed their version with their usual burn-up.
If someone did a film of the gunpowder plot, 'something' would have to get blown to pieces at the end. I had this notion that tunnels had been dug into the basement of Parliament... but through some rouse the tunnel actually lead to a different underground cellar. The bomb goes off as planned ... but somewhere else...Fawkes realises the scam and makes hi way to the real parliament cellar to blow that up... maybe with or two small barrels of gunpowder - all that he could carry - and he is caught red handed!
I like the idea of that Hammer film.
where is "The Crazy Space Kook's" shuttlecock space ship from Scooby Doo?
I am not familiar with it.
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Erm, wasn’t the Proteus the ship in fantastic Voyage? Doh! 😁
There was a cartoon in 1968 which was loosely based on the film. In the show the ship was the Voyager and it could fly and go underwater. They had a different mission every week and would be shrunk to different sizes depending in the mission.
@@Matteline It also had a pretty cool theme tune too 🙂I made a Voyager model from Plastic card back in the day so it could work in the bath.
@@Matteline OK. Never seen that.
Nell model kit: ruclips.net/video/Qm3riOWjkak/видео.html
Nice!
I had and built BSG turned out great plus the flying sub from voyage to the bottom of the sea
A new model kit of the Galactica was released a few years ago. About the same size as the Monogram kit, but with much more accurate shape and much more accurate shape.
...the Aurora Flying Sub kit is a classic. Moebius (I think... or it may be Polar Lights or Atlantis..) did a 1/35th scale model about 10 years ago. It is much more accurate, and about twice the size of the Aurora model. Such a cool ship.
@@Matteline I did mine when I was 10 , 1978. I would like get one bigger but have no idea where to get one. 20 yrs ago models are in ever store nope hell no not anymore . Shame
Regarding Modle shops; I live in London and there is only one modle.kit shop.that I am aware of. Hannanst. Which is about a 30 minute drive. Uts is next to the HEMDON rSF musem which is nice..Hamleys the gianf toy store in the West E d sells a lot of kist - mostly Airfix. There is a Hobby Craft about a 30 minute drive that in addition to the paints, papers, wools and fabrics also.seels..decemt.range of modle.kits - airfix, Tamitlya, Revell and a reasonable.assortment.kf.paints, glues, balsa wood etc. We used to ha e at leat 3 Beatties stores one was 15 minutes away - we could.cycle there. One a 30 minute bus ride and one in town (45 minutes) also within 15 minutes was a more general hobby shop that sold bals wood, electric motors and numerous model accessories. Murray and Brands. There was also Jennings which was classic model.shopnthat always had old.stick as well as new stock. Every Woolworths (there were two near to us) had a decent range of kits... our corner newsagte has Matchbox, Frog and Revell kits - mostly the smaller kits like spitfires, Me109s and tanks.. but a decent range of Matchbox, Revell and Frog.
And there were various other toy shops, post offices or corner shops that all sold some kits... Ahh... those were the days.
Josie and the zpussycats were the indpirstion for the Spice Girls.
A Hanna Barbera cartoon of the Spice Girls would be 'zigaxag ah'!
Allow me to be the first to say "Despatch War Rocket 'Ajax' to bring back his body!"
Seriously, I have read that George Lucas wanted to make a Flash Gordon film, but couldn't get the rights, so he made Star Wars instead. Thus in a sense we owe Star Wars to that forgettable Flash Gordon film of 1980s.
Queen's soundtrack really saved that movie. It has great nostalgia value with all the cloud tank skies.
Actually George Lucy's wanted to make "Dune" but the Frank Herbert Estate wouldn't sell him the film rights.
American, love Hammer Films, and yeah I could see them do a sex-and-gore Guy Fawkes film
Ha ha. And it would have been pretty good!