top 5 zergs feel like the best players to watch, all of them Dark, Rogue, Serral Less so Reynor And while it says Shin is 16th, he's definitely higher than that lately, just maybe not the tourney finishes yet to show it
First line was great, but you could have made the double joke of "A Rogue Zerg Vs. A Classic Protoss. What a match though! Excellent and entertaining, keep it up!
27:40 OMG, the Ultralisks tanking the interceptors under microbial shroud looked cool af. In fact, they may have even been, dare I say it, actually useful.
Thank god rogue crushed classic's skytoss in game 1, it was getting so boring watching the protoss have a significantly stronger army and do nothing with it for 20 minutes lol
Winter, you make SC2 so entertaining and fun with your commentary XD. Thank you so much for your dedication and consistency-your casts are the last thing I watch before going to sleep. Many thanks! 😊
classic screwed up the engagement and got caught. he should have had some immortals, less archons and more carriers or voids, and he should have made sure to only leave one angle of attack. generally, if the corruptors cannot get to the skytoss without standing over some archons and some storms, the protoss is going to win. if they can, the zerg is going to win. skytoss cannot beat corruptors, it needs the archons and templars to do massive damage to them or to prevent them from engaging until the ground units are mostly cleared to win a direct maxed out engagement.
I REALLY want to see Rogue capitalize on his 'papers please' changeling strategy. He is literally the only Zerg who does it, and it's clear nobody is actively prepared for it.
Shield upgrade on archon, tank armor upgrade. two instances where i think armor is as important at least. muta v archon, ling v archon. and then ling v tank or marine v tank
Of course my daily watch. I do enjoy the Protoss games the most. I feel we see Zerg/terrain so much. But I got Brenda and Susan a creep tumor for Xmas.
Game 1 is a great example of how bad PvZ is for zerg late game. Classic made soooooo many mistakes and played pretty atrociously and the game was still close.
Thank you the rewind at end of games with a break down I feel like for us Bronze League Heroes in the comments section the last 10 seconds of every games needs to be played back at half speed and elaborated on
Why's everyone say armor is useless?? I get your theory as in some interactions it is much less effective, but since almost always they face lots of zergling, having +2 armor takes the DPS of the super fast attack down by almost half,zergling damage from 5 per hit down to 3...makes a zealot extremely tanky to zerglings. Secondary benefits aren't quite as drastic, but still offer a decent change. Removing 3 dmg vs just one from hydra attacks is only a 25% reduction at best (down to 22-20% if they have attack upgraded), but still a quarter less dmg per shot reducing their DPS by nearly 4dps (from 18.6 to 15). This is still a big difference when you consider the number of units. Vs lurkers it's a small difference and not very meaningful yes, but 85% of the battles are against lings with maybe hydra firing in the background. Having reduction of a massive 40% from lings and 21-25% from hydras is FAR from insignificant
the one improvement i'd like to see from zerg pros that i haven't seen at all is creep leapfrogging with overlord creep spread. Pros don't spread newly formed live tumors because they gotta wait for the creep to spread further before planting it again. an overlord that provides creep can pretty much make this a non issue. I wonder why they don't do it.
i havent played in like 7 years, during the holidays i just got the 5 ranking matchs playing outdated openers, i've been drafted in master league. has the level dropped down so much in a few years ? I was just a regular low diamond back in the days
If you were Diamond, that Masters league you got, it's an League ranking bug SC2 has. The best way that you have to check which league you really are, would be by checking your MMR and then see from your Region the MMR brackets, then you will find your accurate rank.
I think the very long lurker viper ZvZs we had years ago between serral, dark and raynor were about the most fun matches to watch, also corruptor roach vs muta ling. constant action, a single wrong engagement can be game over, and you can really see the skill of the player. TvT and PvZ are also great. I find ZvP, ZvT and PvP the most boring matches because its less volatile and more predictable. also, I think the players involved matter more than the match up. anything involving top names who are somewhat evenly matched is great. honestly, the most boring match I could think of would be Clem against any zerg other than raynor and dark or any protoss that isnt maxpax or hero, or any very mismatched player. mirror match ups are generally much less predictable. even Clem vs Serral which used to be the best match up to me is now boring since its clear that Serral cannot keep up with him in terms of speed and his game play is polished and consistent enough now for Serral to not find opening anymore.
@@sshreddderr9409 not just top level, because in the old days players like partinG and Zest were great watches too whoever they were against but otherwise yeah And clem is definitely one of the least fun to watch- hopeful Serral finds a way through but other than that not a great match
Think you could hide in the comments where the game you’re calling out is? A half hour on average to get to the title match is bleh at a certain point. Good stuff winter love it
Tbh, I'm kinda torn about ZvZ matchups. On one hand, yes, there's the certainty of seeing zerg lose, but... on the other hands, there's also the certainty of zerg winning and I'm not a big fan of that.
3:08 "Brenda, you're flying again!" "Not like this..."
Rogue is filling my need for chaos in these pro games. Very Dark-ish.
top 5 zergs feel like the best players to watch, all of them
Dark, Rogue, Serral
Less so Reynor
And while it says Shin is 16th, he's definitely higher than that lately, just maybe not the tourney finishes yet to show it
16:15 a full congress of corruptors I'm dead
You're great Winter, have been watching another StarCraft commentator for years and decided to give your channel a chance and it's great,!
I’m doing my part 🫡
I'm doing my part 🫡
@@quarantinezone2844 I'm doing my part
Would you like to hear more? *click*
I'm touching myself 🫡
Frankly I find the thought of a bug that thinks offensive
51:12 12 pool I can't stop watching this...
Rogue poppin' the top off! 🎉
I feel like Rogue said "You killed my favorite rocks!" and that's what pissed him off 😂
Ive never commented on a Winter video, but yes, I am having a great day. And yes, it is about to get just a little bit better. Thanks man.
So real
Rogue One/won, sneakiest Star wars pun ever
It started before that with "war in the stars".
First line was great, but you could have made the double joke of "A Rogue Zerg Vs. A Classic Protoss. What a match though! Excellent and entertaining, keep it up!
27:40 OMG, the Ultralisks tanking the interceptors under microbial shroud looked cool af.
In fact, they may have even been, dare I say it, actually useful.
Thank god rogue crushed classic's skytoss in game 1, it was getting so boring watching the protoss have a significantly stronger army and do nothing with it for 20 minutes lol
Classic toss strats
you already had me at 'a classic protoss' 🤑
great stuff
lmao me too
Hello algorithm, this is where I want to be.
If koreans play sc2, it's a fun all hell breaklose, but if Europeans play sc2. It's like im watching a math video 😂
That final battle between skytoss and sky zerg was insane. 👀
Killer last game by Rogue! Good cast.
3:34 Brenda you're flying again 😂😂😂😂
Doing my part before hitting the mountain ladys snd fellas
Winter, you make SC2 so entertaining and fun with your commentary XD. Thank you so much for your dedication and consistency-your casts are the last thing I watch before going to sleep. Many thanks! 😊
I don’t even play the game but your commentary is so entertaining that i keep coming back. Keep it up! 👍
Winter absolutely COOKING with that intro!
Right? Solid puns, lovely delivery. He's good, and getting better.
WOW!!! that fight with ultras and corruptors! incredible!!
classic screwed up the engagement and got caught. he should have had some immortals, less archons and more carriers or voids, and he should have made sure to only leave one angle of attack. generally, if the corruptors cannot get to the skytoss without standing over some archons and some storms, the protoss is going to win. if they can, the zerg is going to win. skytoss cannot beat corruptors, it needs the archons and templars to do massive damage to them or to prevent them from engaging until the ground units are mostly cleared to win a direct maxed out engagement.
I REALLY want to see Rogue capitalize on his 'papers please' changeling strategy. He is literally the only Zerg who does it, and it's clear nobody is actively prepared for it.
Thank You
om nom nom
I've never seen a more professional cast.
It's crazy how good these two guys are at this game.
Shield upgrade on archon, tank armor upgrade. two instances where i think armor is as important at least. muta v archon, ling v archon. and then ling v tank or marine v tank
Of course my daily watch. I do enjoy the Protoss games the most. I feel we see Zerg/terrain so much. But I got Brenda and Susan a creep tumor for Xmas.
Game 1 is a great example of how bad PvZ is for zerg late game. Classic made soooooo many mistakes and played pretty atrociously and the game was still close.
Thank you for more MM; can we see more blindfolded tightrope lightsaber battles over volcanoes, please?
Hey wake up, winter just dropped a new banger!
Love this intro formula btw
Really love the potential bonus game; cannot figure out who won a series based of video time alone
thanks for the knowledge dropping in the zvz
Love you, winter!!
Glad we always get THE MOST PROFESSIONAL SC2
Keep casting high level zerg!!!!!
Thank you the rewind at end of games with a break down I feel like for us Bronze League Heroes in the comments section the last 10 seconds of every games needs to be played back at half speed and elaborated on
You know what would make my day ALOT better? If you casted PartinG.
Yes another winter video
who knew Microbial + Ultras is going to be this deadly? now that it sticks to units giving Ultras Damage reduction.
I love watching these. Not enough Protos players.
Gotta like and subscribe
Day 8 of pleading with Winter to move "The Maru" to be on a single line in his card mock-up.
Winter, you talk the Brenda talk, but do you walk the Brenda walk?
Jimmy is one of the best executive producers I’ve seen
27:50 dang... wp to Rogue there
It's about damn tamm.
I was wondering already last video why it doesn't go above 1499. Finally, some new Jimmy lore. 😂
My day is even better than it was before watching this video.
Great games ty!!!
He said "my viewers think Ascertain was a Protoss general"
sigh, that Rogue "one" at the start was nice. :)
Rogue is so much fun to watch
I think that's a record! Less than 15s for winter to get me wheezing
Great games, great commentary. So in other words, the usual.
Nice 👍
So close to 1500
Wearing a "in a nutshell/kurzgesagt" shirt? Good choice!
SUBBED. Brenda and Susan have my paperwork, and I will be seeing Karen for my training package.
Armor is good if you want your workers to survive zerglings longer?
Pretty niche.
This was bullying
Love this guy
6:20 perfect example: One of my biggest pet peeves of professional Zerg is not using the overseers for contaminate.
exactly, I guess they can't handle this with mere 500 APM :D
A meaningful comment.
Why's everyone say armor is useless??
I get your theory as in some interactions it is much less effective, but since almost always they face lots of zergling, having +2 armor takes the DPS of the super fast attack down by almost half,zergling damage from 5 per hit down to 3...makes a zealot extremely tanky to zerglings.
Secondary benefits aren't quite as drastic, but still offer a decent change. Removing 3 dmg vs just one from hydra attacks is only a 25% reduction at best (down to 22-20% if they have attack upgraded), but still a quarter less dmg per shot reducing their DPS by nearly 4dps (from 18.6 to 15). This is still a big difference when you consider the number of units.
Vs lurkers it's a small difference and not very meaningful yes, but 85% of the battles are against lings with maybe hydra firing in the background. Having reduction of a massive 40% from lings and 21-25% from hydras is FAR from insignificant
the one improvement i'd like to see from zerg pros that i haven't seen at all is creep leapfrogging with overlord creep spread. Pros don't spread newly formed live tumors because they gotta wait for the creep to spread further before planting it again. an overlord that provides creep can pretty much make this a non issue. I wonder why they don't do it.
I think he killed every single interceptor,
I want to check how many he had over the course of the fight
Protoss units are so bad for how much money they cost
...
I was going to put anti spoiler up there, but then I realized that would be a spoiler for the anti spoiler.
Does Innovation still play?
i havent played in like 7 years, during the holidays i just got the 5 ranking matchs playing outdated openers, i've been drafted in master league.
has the level dropped down so much in a few years ? I was just a regular low diamond back in the days
If you were Diamond, that Masters league you got, it's an League ranking bug SC2 has. The best way that you have to check which league you really are, would be by checking your MMR and then see from your Region the MMR brackets, then you will find your accurate rank.
Love to see ZvZ in the bonus games!
Jimmy is the alter ego of winter?! 😮
Rogue One if ya know you know 🌌
since ive started watching your casts ive gotten 300000% better at this game
"the shaddy bunch" 🤣 I love this guy!
Genuinely enjoy ZvZ (particularly at this level) more than other games
I think the very long lurker viper ZvZs we had years ago between serral, dark and raynor were about the most fun matches to watch, also corruptor roach vs muta ling. constant action, a single wrong engagement can be game over, and you can really see the skill of the player. TvT and PvZ are also great. I find ZvP, ZvT and PvP the most boring matches because its less volatile and more predictable. also, I think the players involved matter more than the match up. anything involving top names who are somewhat evenly matched is great. honestly, the most boring match I could think of would be Clem against any zerg other than raynor and dark or any protoss that isnt maxpax or hero, or any very mismatched player. mirror match ups are generally much less predictable. even Clem vs Serral which used to be the best match up to me is now boring since its clear that Serral cannot keep up with him in terms of speed and his game play is polished and consistent enough now for Serral to not find opening anymore.
@@sshreddderr9409 not just top level, because in the old days players like partinG and Zest were great watches too whoever they were against but otherwise yeah
And clem is definitely one of the least fun to watch- hopeful Serral finds a way through but other than that not a great match
Damnit Jimmy! We want the 1500 likes!
that thumbnail 😂
ULTRAS IN THE THUMBNAIL IVE BEEN CLICKBAITED 🤩🤩
Classic feels like an offbrand Astrea.
This game again shows that zerg has shit late game units, and takes too much skill against skytoss.
Added my like
I liked!
voting for an 'ultimatum of ultras', considering how make or break they are lol
Think you could hide in the comments where the game you’re calling out is? A half hour on average to get to the title match is bleh at a certain point.
Good stuff winter love it
The best dressed streamer by far
Had to comment off that intro, I love the funny quips
that last pvz fight was so cathartic, I love seeing skytoss dying
yup. then you try to replicate it and just fucking die and die and die every time
Tbh, I'm kinda torn about ZvZ matchups. On one hand, yes, there's the certainty of seeing zerg lose, but... on the other hands, there's also the certainty of zerg winning and I'm not a big fan of that.
Please God let the Protoss win 🙏🏻
Dunno why I keep coming back to this fellas commenting but I do.
We are the Casters Assistant Association and we are here to talk about your attitude towards Jimmy...
Exactly! He's not strict enough with Jimmy! Such a lenient boss...
@@JollyGreenWizard We've also heard he has been given coffee breaks, this we can not stand for
Unpaid interns might get jealous
I laugh because it’s better than crying XDD
Zoomob!!!!!
Hey algorithm: here’s where I want to be
I hope it's not a clickbait again
19:00 lol