Thanks for all the comments everyone! I am working through them and trying to respond to everyone. I knew this would be divisive but that tends to lead to good discussion. I am already thinking I may need to do a second video sometime as there are a lot of interesting topics to discuss. I need to stress I am not trying to sell the game to anyone, I am simply explaining why I play it and that in my opinion its not a bad game. Not a bad game does not mean its a great game either.
On the other hand, only a soulless and bland ESG drone, barely human, would like this goyslop made by financial blackmail from shekelsteins to destroy western studios. No wonder if 'BethesdaQueerster' loves it.
@@BethesdaQuester bro just play whatever you like, and create whatever content you want. If you like games as bland as white people chicken, than you be you bro im not even kidding just be happy
the only part about Starfield that really bothers is me is the unhinged negativity from the internet. The game itself is great. Not perfect, but a solid first entry into a new IP. The NASA nerd in me absolutely loved this game.
I mean... you said it right there. 'shitting on it'. There's a difference between 'this game isn't for me, and here are the reasons why' or 'I have several critiques of this game and this is why' and 'shitting on' a game (and let's be real, much of it is unfair). The internet has an obsession with wanting to see big studios fail and they will absolutely project that obsession onto any situation until they can build a narrative, and the toxicity is contagious. It's sad. @@jcselement
Starfield is kind of a childhood fantasy simulator for me. Flying spaceships and walking around on empty planets picking up cool rocks is something I've dreamt of doing for a long time. I'm 24 years old so maybe some day I can do those things in real life but until then, Starfield it is.
I played and enjoyed Starfield because it's chill and I could play at my own pace, I grew up with Space Invaders Donkey Kong and Pac man and still get blown away with what games have become. Games not perfect but neither am I.
I agree and maybe that's why I like it. Its slower paced and more grounded. My kids play a lot of games that are flashy and crazy and maybe I am just getting old but I rather relax when I am gaming. I play a bit of Warzone when I want to get stressed out lol.
Sounds like you have similar feelings towards the game as I do. In so many words it sounds like you’re saying it’s a relaxing game. Which it is… too relaxing. I finally realized it’s too relaxing which kinda means boring. Granted, as Mattyplays points out, this game is not meant to be played like a normal Bethesda game (whether that was intentional or not, not sure anyone knows), and I try to play it like a Bethesda game because I can’t help myself. I don’t dislike the game, I just expected a lot more from it. I bought jedi survivor for 50% off recently and I jumped ship really quick because that game is tons of fun! Hopefully I get the itch to play starfield again but right now, I don’t see that happening. It just doesn’t have the “it” factor for me that drives me nuts to finally get some free time to play games. And I think that has to do with the fact that the game has really bad downtime. When you’re doing a quest, it’s fun and exciting, but everything in between is really boring, bland, repetitive etc. I mean, to survey a planet to 100% can take an hour sometimes and that is not fun. In Skyrim, in between every quest was multiple handcrafted locations, npc’s and more quests. In starfield, it’s the same raiders outpost on every planet… I’m sick of clearing the same outpost every time! Again, I don’t hate the game, it’s just not what I was expecting from what was being described to me and it spectacularly underdelivered. They did use the description “Skyrim in space” and that’s not at all what we got.
This is basically me Between 2 jobs and family, I am right there with the desire to have an experience like starfield where i can plug and then plug out in short order. I've looked at other "masterpiece" games as well, but man, I dont have time for games like that anymore.
that's how i felt with skyrim with over 10,000 hours after playing it for a full decade trying out new playthroughs and mods and all kinds of stuff getting immersed in the lore, it's been a fun time and things just get better and better as time has gone on.
@@BethesdaQuester yeah i had about 8,000 in skyrim LE, and then i put a few more thousand on SSE, i also had a few hundred hours on my 360, but i don't remember the hours i had logged in for the console version. but yeah, steam kept track for me.
The copy/paste exactly the same dungeons and then the main story basically being a repeating multiverse making anything you do intentionally pointless killed the whole game for me. It was fun and I was enjoying it until that realization settled in. Its funny because I'm a habitual dungeon clearer and loot hoarding and ironically this game taught me to just let it all go.
I get that and for sure I wont be grinding this game or worrying too much about NG+. I am enjoying the quests and what not but I don't think ill be going back to it once I am done until the DLC drops.
Best part about Starfield to me was the fact I manage to make a old man who looks exactly like my grandad...but the dialogue system was basically The Elder Scrolls with this weird closeups on NPC, - and not like Fallout 4 - so I could not look at my space grandad saying stupid things so it ended before even started the only thing I could like about this game with crap ass quests and weak story. That's it. Didn't work for me.
Thanks for the feed-back! The character creator is for sure a massive improvement over previous games. The fact that you have enough control to make someone from real life is nuts.
That hit home. I have both the 5 and series X. Majority of my friends are on 5. But theres times after a mental work breakdown i don't want to be chatty and just game in silence or alone. Starfield is that game. I dig it. Are there things that could've been done better, sure. But i love it. The exploration all the things to do. And i can do them at my pace. Mission focused or side quests.. or just bs on a planet all day long. Maybe it isn't complexed enough for some.
I totally agree. Bethesda games all have this quality of being like comfort food. Once you get over the hump of learning the controls and navigating their invariably wonky UIs, all Bethesda games just become incredibly easy to engage with. I can always find some new activity to ping-pong around to when I get tired of doing something. I don't think it's a coincidence that I want to play Baldur's Gate 3 during the day and Bethesda games at night, simply because Bethesda games are this very chilled-out, not-at-all-cerebral experience. Playing on PC and having access to the console commands gives me almost complete control over this gigantic sandbox, and mods let me tinker and perfect my game world to my exact specifications. Starfield has this same quality, but I can't shake the feeling that it may not have the same "legs" as Skyrim, Oblivion, or Morrowind. I think for me that mostly comes down to the leveling system that doesn't encourage restarting to try new character builds. Starfield is far from perfect, but it's also far from the terrible game the internet is making it out to be. It advanced the Bethesda formula in some ways and failed to advance it (or took steps backward) in others. Mods and DLC will improve the game, but it'll never be everything to everyone (which I think is the expectation of some players). I do think that in time and with mods and DLC and patches, Starfield will be redeemed in the eyes of the player base (like Cyberpunk 2077 or No Man's Sky, both of which got the "trash game, 0/10, do not buy" treatment upon launch, and are now widely praised).
I really think, that you can appreciate the game for what it is. There are two things, I want to criticize about the game: - When companies like Bethesda get lazy and deliver a game that is poorly developed and is sold for a premium price and should be conceived as one of the best games of all time. - When some people think, it must be the game of the year or even more, because it comes from their beloved gaming company and they don't understand that there are also different tastes and concepts in the world. Both notions are in effect destructive to the whole gaming community (if there is one) -- because it degrades gamers as cash-cows which have to pay for whatever the big corporations are serving them. It takes away creativity and makes the gaming industry a purely mechanical process to get more cash from the stupid consumers.
I am not at all into looter shooters but I play Space Engineers. They figured out the solution to Starfields problem of all empty space. There is a mod (Modular Encounter Spawner) that spawns player created content (from the Steam workshop) according to rules set in a player created scenario (also from the Steam workshop). If you want to fight space battles all the time, or raid cargo ships, or scavenge for materials on a dystopian planet you only need to go find a scenario that does so on the Steam workshop. And if you can't find what you need but have a basic knowledge of general modding you can build your own scenarios and upload them to the workshop. It's never ending content variation that follows you around wherever you are.
I dont have a machine that could even run it. I have been following a bunch of reviews because Im fascinated by the (possibly cursed) problem of combining unlimited procedural worlds with an RPG. I think what you are saying coincides with what certain other people that enjoy the game have been saying. They don't mind the lack of a complicated epic space opera with tightly interwoven stories because if you are only playing when you get a chance you want something more casual, eg a looter shooter type where you can complete a decent half-hour gameloop and not be lost the next time you step into it. That is good news in the sense that I think the looter shooter gameloop is one part of the game that we know how to make dramatically better, even on purely procedural maps. At the moment it has the puzzling flaw that the game spawns an allegedly small number of bases with the exact same clutter and everything. Not even basic procedural generation. THAT, at least, can be dramatically improved. If not by DLC, I expect even modders could trivially add to the database of special locations, and add procedural variation to those locations as well. I expect someone could even write a full on procedural dungeon crawler using the modular base building mechanic. it is really puzzling why Bethesda had not already addressed this. In fact I would say it is _impossible_ that they were not painfully aware of such a basic missing feature. *My theory is this:* I think microsoft in some way stepped in and set a date after which Bethesda was not allowed to add more features and could only do bugfixes. This is considered basic good software development practice, but I think it destroyed Bethesda's janky magic. Here are the points I think it connects: * Bethesda was recently bought by M$ which wanted a flagship game for XBox. M$ knew Bethesda was infamous for games that were vastly buggy on release so it is likely they made such a demand. * One reviewer did in fact claim that Microsoft had delayed release for more bugfixing. * This game did reportedly release in an unusually unbuggy state for Bethesda. * but instead it lacked some core game features: eg sufficient variation of special locations, and a good purpose for bases. * There was in fact mention that a fuel feature was removed because it was killing fun.. but thus the bases were pointless. It seems clear the real fix they needed was to find/finish the feature that integrated bases. * In this context, I suspect Emilio's comment about reviewers no understanding the realities of game development makes so much more sense. He was really frustrated that he was gagged from saying why he had to release a game with these humiliatingly obvious omissions, and listen to reviewers implying he was so incompetent he was unaware of these omissions.
That makes a lot of sense. I was wondering myself if MS getting involved had an impact. I agree a lot of things can be fixed with updates and it does sound like a considerable team is staying on the project. I did hear about a more survival focused mod which I assume will include the features that were considered to be "killing the fun". For me I almost always play games on their hardest difficulty and survival modes. I get why the masses do not like these modes but for me it forces a slower more thought out play style.
I think that most people, like me, went into this game to explore exciting worlds. But there is nothing INTERESTING to explore and huge amount of copypasta totaly ruined it for me. So only after few boring hours i started noticing those other flaws and questioned myself, why i even wasting my time with this. However i understand, when people are having fun with any game, we are all different.
Thanks for the comment and I get it. I make it more fun for myself with challenges and I just avoid exploration after the first visit to a planet. I do not care to grind for all the resources flora and fauna.
Not just that, but the NPC's are boring as hell. Someone put it best, "the animals in BG3 are far more entertaining to talk than the NPC's in Starfield." I mean, if you enjoy it, you enjoy it, though.
I also agree but planetary exploration in Starfield is way worse n more boring than Dav’s Hope in Elite Dangerous. Bethesda would really benefit from understanding why Elite n NMS n Rebel Galaxy work for space geeks like ourselves. I really wish i had a way to talk w Bethesda decision makers to toss this idea their way.
I see the problems but they don't bother me neither. The loading screens can be draining and immersion breaking but I play and do other stuff on the side, so they're actually benefitable in a weird way. I love starfield. I have over 1000 hours of playtime and I'm not bored of it yet, I just wish there were more npcs to romance tho, not just only 4. Good video btw! XD
I really like it and I dont really care about the loading screens and invisible walls. My biggest problem is how little action there is, over 80 hours in, barely done any ship and base building and most of the missions is just talking to npcs and traveling so i can talk to more of them
The ship building and base building is the best part of the game for me. Go steal some ships and rebuild them into whatever your feeling like at the moment, small fighter, big gunship, cargo hauler. Find some planets with rare valuable resources and you'll have a non stop credit farm. You can also sell the ships for a nice chunk of credits. I'm on my 4th NG and haven't done one quest yet. Even though I enjoy the vanguard one and the freestar one. I actually haven't been a pirate yet although I hear it's a great quest. I just enjoy stealing their ships though.
I have not done much in those areas either. I really felt a lack of action in New Atlantis but in Neon there was quite a bit. The way I play with all the distraction quests means I hit some slow spots but I make it fun with the role playing aspect of my playthrough.
I feel the same. I'm enjoying Starfield, but it's definitely no fallout or skyrim level. I wish they would have just concentrated on making the next elder scrolls game. Since I didn't expect to like it at all, I guess I'm one of the few people who are actually pleasantly surprised at how much I like it.
Love your perspective! By and large I'm enjoying Starfield, and find a lot to appreciate. Some days I've played it 6 or 7 hours at a time, but other days - like you - I just dip into it for a couple of hours, and dink around with a random side quest, or do a little exploring, get into an unexpected gunfight, etc. By the way, your "Granny" videos are a total hoot... please make more!
Based. As someone who also loves Starfield and has had a ton of fun in it I fundamentally do not understand how people could classify it as “bad”. Is it everything folks wanted? No. But jeez, people are ridiculous calling it bad. Bad is a 4/10 and lower… Starfield is a solid 7/10 with parts that reach 8/10 :)
Thanks for this, its the point I was trying to make and probably did not say properly. A bad game is one that is unplayable or was a scam. Starfield at least on xbox works fine.
I personally would give it like a 2/10. I would genuinely rather play an objective bad game cus they usually at least make me laugh, Starfield was the most boring game I legit think I've played in at least 15 years.
@@BethesdaQuester What I've seen is that people are calling it bad relative to other bethesda games and relative to other significant AAA releases. In an absolute sense most people seem to be saying it's pretty mid, 5 or 6/10. Which compared to the revamped release of cyberpunk, relative even to a game like current NMS, just doesn't measure up. Even in these comments the general feeling seems to be the more you play it the worse it gets, which is actually what I've been hearing a lot.
Completely agree with this take. I dont think anyone would disagree that the game is disappointing, but its honestly suprising to see how many consider it bad. Its been fascinating for me to watch as the game has basically had the opposite trajectory of all other modern AAA games. I think the relative praise the game received at launch is the best indicator of it being squarely in the dissapponting category rather than the "bad" category. Did I want something like Skyrim in space? Yes. An I disappointed in getting something much closer to a fallout 4 in space? A bit. But if you constantly trash evey 7/10 as a 2/10 then you're very rarely going to get a masterpiece. Most of the greatest games of all time or built on the shoulders of their more underwhelming predecessors (even if they arent direct sequels). But, that isnt an excuse for the lack of innovation, its just a defense of the work that is put in, its not a GOTY but its not worthy of the "overwhelmingly negative" tag either, objectively the game has a bunch of issues and is plenty enjoyable if you play it the way it wants you to, but if you dont want to play a linear, pretty surface level Philosophy spaceman game with some impressive ship building and rock solid customization and gunplay with some interesting perks then you arent going to enjoy it and that's fine, just as some won't enjoy BRs, MOBAs, Rogue-likes, etc.
they were phucked from the start by putting the game on so many planets. the first time i ran into 2 identical pirate bases on 2 separate planets i knew something went wrong. there is no way bethesda did that and thought in any way that that cud be ok lol. i think if it was just on one star system or somehow on one map (no planetary travel, like a less apocalyptic fallout) it could have been one of the greatest games of all time.
Totally agree. I think the scale is way off what would have been practical. Clearly they took a risk and it did not pay off but it still very playable for me.
The game is average, not great and definitely not bad. Those who are crying loudest about Starfield being boring are the ones who had too high of expectations for this game. Hell, people seem to forget Skyrim and Fallout 4 are also rather average games. In their vanilla form. Without mods. Although I must admit it seems Bethesda is making it harder to mod their games. I didn't enjoy modding Fallout 4, it was a nuisance trying to go back and forth patching every broken mechanic, then the constant game updates continuously broke the mods. Same with Skyrim SE/AE. I'm not looking forward to experiencing all of these same headaches with Starfield. (Yes, if you're wondering, the ideal Bethesda game to mod is Skyrim LE).
I have no idea how mods work but it sounds frustrating to deal with. Isn't there some announced update for better mod support? I thought I heard something about it recently.
I was so exited when it came out that i build a pc just for it . Beside the loading screen and the transports issues , the worse thing is after 160 hours in after the main quest and factions quest are done, there is noting interesting left to do beside building ship and outpost , this is the biggest flaw of this game. I played Skyrim for a decade and always find something to go back to it , not seeing that with that game.
That is something I suspected would be an issue. I do not think Starfield in its current state has much replay ability. If you do not like the NG+ gameplay loop there is not enough variety in character builds to play again.
I’m lvl 50, focus on shipbuilding (buying and selling) raiding, and gun builds. I like the pace, don’t mind the loading screens while I puff a j, and feel I am just getting comfortable with the game as a whole. Some quests are bugged, and the game isn’t perfect, but I still enjoy playing… Cheers
I'm so jealous of you guys. I legit want to no life the game. 1000 planets? I WISH I could find it engaging. I'm going through a really rough time irl and was so looking forward to a distraction that could be skyrim or fallout but new, more modern in 2023 for me. Ugh.
Honestly I just found starfield to have 0 personality, minimum choice, boring exploration, boring locations, grindy combat and very un memorable weapons or Armour/apparel and this is coming from someone who loves Bethesda and all their previous games, the game just feels like it’s missing in so many departments. Edit* just wanted to add I’ve got 1 day 8 hours game times so I’ve gave it time but all that time was spent waiting on enjoyment that was never brought, feels more like a task fast travelling to each wee quest then fast travelling back, whilst experiencing 4 loading screens in the process
That is a fair assessment and I think many people will stop once they have played one playthrough or done most of the content they were interested in. I am probably going to end up there as well but I think making content has made it more fun for me. Hopefully the try to find ways to address some of these things with the updates.
they could have made it like skyrim if they dramatically scaled back the planets, and i mean dramatically like maybe 10 to 15 planets, a thousand, come on, we all knew that was a dumb idea from the beginning. but it's what Todd wanted after he saw what NMS was all about and tried to deliver on the same kind of game and fell dramatically short of his goals.
Fair point, but I wonder if there are diminishing returns in how the complexity of a game stacks up .For example, would one hyper detailed planet have still be infinitely bigger and harder to do that 1000 shallow ones? maybe somebody can comment who knows more on that. I would imagine the limits are much tighter than we think.
So, I respect your opinion, but a few things to keep in mind are that the technology isn't there yet is a red herring. No man's sky in 2016 had better spaceflight, and better procgen. Sure, the game still sucked, but it sucked because it lacked stuff to do outside of run around and build stuff. You are correct that Skyrim density is basically impossible on the scale of Starfield, but you don't really bring up that Skyrim had mostly hand-crafted experiences and a world that made sense internally.
I installed it launch day on Xbox gamepass. Ran in to a bunch of bugs before I finished the tutorial, got to the big city at the end of the tutorial and I had to wear the spacesuit inside otherwise my character would suffocate. Exited and uninstalled the game, utterly boring and missing all the wonder and charm of skyrim. terrible game. im a huge bethesda fan and have played all their games and was really excited for this but it is just crap.
I actually enjoy the game. What I like about is that Bethesda didn’t try to reinvent the wheel, instead they stuck to the same formula, giving you a main quest line with a bijiliion smaller quests and let you do your own thing. It’s just a good old Bethesda game, and I’m ok with that.
I think they did update the formula a bit but its quite possible it would have been better received if they did nothing new.. But we don't want that either so I think a bit of experimenting is always good even if they find new features are not enjoyed by the community.
My main gripe is how lifeless but overpopulated the planets are at the same time. Procgen is really poorly made, you land on an "unexplored" planet and it is spammed full of abandoned bases, while the forests have zero floor texture variation and bushes are in the weirdest places.
Yes I felt that for the lore to be believable you would actually need a lot less development on the planets. In only a few hundred years you would not have several human built structures per each tile of each planet. The procedural generation of the terrain I find pretty convincing as the planets geography looks pretty natural. The seeding of each tile of terrain with "random" hand built structures is a poor choice. On the flip side people would have probably complained if there was nothing but wilderness even if it was more realistic in terms of forest density etc. NMS did the same thing and it was boring to me pretty quickly. Ill admit I have not gone back to NMS and I know they have greatly improved it. When I was playing it exploration was the point of the game and seeing the same stuff in a different color was not interesting to me. In Starfield exploration is optional so I just do less of it and don't burn out.
@@BethesdaQuester You might find the procedural generation pretty convincing until you see this: ruclips.net/video/A7tp4eg0ax8/видео.html 100% procgen 4sqkm map. BGS could have bought that entire company with the $400m budget and it would have probably made the game cheaper and better.
Great video and very succinct! I like games like Starfield, Diablo 4, and AC Valhalla just so i can explore and unplug. I've still got games like GoW: Ragnarok, Lies of P, etc waiting for me but right now, I just want to chill. This gamer Dad agrees.
I've been at it for 415 hours and still have plenty more stuff to do while also providing so much more content each universe I appear in. I absolutely love this game. At this point now it is my favorite vanilla Bethesda game of all time. The woke undertones can be off putting to be honest, but just go to another planet for God sakes, you don't have to deal with that crap in this game. I will say though that if Elder Scrolls 6 decides to have one world space the wokeness needs to be nonexistent, that'll kill that game tbh.
I hate that woke term. Look, if it doesnt affect you, let people exist as they are n want to be. It takes nothing from your life. Unless you let it do so. Live n let live. Im a fan of inclusion. I come from a time (teen in the 80’s) when being a geek or different got you jumped n assaulted. Its why i became a lifetime martial arts student. Let go of anger n see what other people have to share. Youll be pleasantly surprised in most cases. And for those who turn out to be jerks… shake the dust from your sandals n move on.
I've come to the conclusion that those of us over 40 or 45 are enjoying the game. We understand it's not perfect but are having a decent time and look forward to how the game turns out.
I think this is very accurate. In fact my other videos tend to have very positive feed-back and the analytics suggest the majority of viewers are 40s and up. I am not sure why but maybe that will be a topic in another video. Thanks for the comment!
i was very disappointed, for several reasons. but this is a good video, i highly commend you for saying it works for you without trying to absolve the game of its issues. i can see where you're cming from. respect.
BG3 isn’t that complicated. I’m playing it casually a few hours a day and the hardest part is stopping because it’s so engaging. I’m glad you like starfeild but I don’t think a busy life is an excuse for not playing BG3. It’s the best game I’ve played in the last 10 years, excluding disco elysium.
Ditto. - That I game on PC / XBOX, with both Gamepass, and Steam. Means that just because chip manufacturers are playing corpo politics, with untimely drivers; I instead played Starfield on XBOX instead of PC. - and its getting more and more like that. I play a lot of survival games that have a similar mish-mash of mechanics and I think Starfields very good. I also prefer machete nareatives over linear ones; and the larger the environment, the less hand-holding I want. I love that you can sometimes go to completely unrelated NPCs you've connected with from other quest lines, and sometimes they'll have an insight on what uou are doing, if you need help. - Thats a working relationship. Those things are cool. Theres a lot of cool things in the game. Maybe the point is you can play it however you want. Construct your own gameplay loop, but don't complain if you learn / feel like, you missed anything. - I always create a hard save, just after character creation. I have two characters; a main NG+ 6 /7 (heavy questing), and another I restarted from NG+ 48, because I felt like I wasted it, instead of really playing it.
Yeah there is enough of everything in Starfield to keep me interested. I am not 100% sure I am convinced I will enjoy a second playthrough as I feel like it will be very similar regardless how I build my character. I hope to be proven wrong but otherwise once there are major updates or the DLC ill jump back in.
@@BethesdaQuester I reckon, the more stuff you unlock through questing, those results feed into the NG+ generator. So in terms of who is where, and quest conditions, info on slates. Things can change up subtley, or a lot. - forcing you to reassess your approach to things. - even play the game in a totally different way. But if you've played 3 months straight of Starfield. You're probably gonna want a visual break, at least.
THIS. Despite me disliking many things about Starfield, I played it longer than most games in recent history. btw, buying a state-of-the-art SSD helps tremendously with the loading screens.
@@BethesdaQuester I guess most, if not all PCs built in the last years have a SSD, as all consoles have, but there are big differences in SSD speeds. The loading screens are usually just a second or less for me, but there are SSDs up to 10 times slower.
I’ve been playing daily for several hours a day since launch. Ive re-started 4 times due to game breaking glitches/bugs/corrupted saves n have blown off finishing Ryujin as i cant get info slate to david at SSNN… Trade Authority kiosk, Tree by the bar, and the ground is missing in New Atlantis… my ships disappear or parts dont load in, bosses are killed by their teammates (which is hilarious), n Bethesda ignores my trouble tickets, and reddit n Twitter posts… but, i keep re-starting n playing. It combines what i enjoy from Destiny, Elite Dangerous, Rebel Galaxy, Halo, Dishonored (when i feel like being a Ninja on xbox). Its a mess but one i still enjoy daily for hours each day. I can’t tell you why but i enjoy the game. The story needs serious work n the voice actors need alot more lines and the copy/pasta is even worse than the endless loading screens. Why we can’t FLY our ships, i dont understand n the space combat is Meh. But i like the game n keep playing. Maybe im just a masochist???
Starfield was well worth the $15 I put into it (more like $7 fully considering how many GamePass games I actually played during the month I was playing Starfield). To be completely fair, it's worth $20 in its current state...and $30 is pushing it. If I had to pay $70 for it like the Steam reviewers had to I'd be pissed, too. Flat out: Steam has better space games available for cheaper.
Despite all the crap I hear about this game, I still want to play it. Maybe I should finish Skyrim and Fallout 4 before I touch any more BGS games first (and get a better computer.) But even as I'm watching scathing reviews of Starfield, I wanna play it.
Most of the critiques are valid so its an informed decision. It is a game that is as good as you make it. I think the Elder Scrolls and Fallout games are better games to binge and replay because you will be able to have a different feel each time you play. Starfield in my opinion is more of a marathon with a single character type game because there are less build options.
Whenever they decite to optimize the game so that things stop popping in on me and freezing then maybe i'll get back into it. but I have to play locked at 30fps else the game likes to die
I get that and it was a bit of a slap in the face to have Todd say get a better rig when we all have seen how expensive things have become. I am playing on Xbox so being locked at 30fps is all I know and the game runs well. Hopefully they will work on optimization moving forward for all the PC players.
I don't think it's a bad game, just a game held back by poor design & management choices. There's a dearth of Bethesda content in the game which the RUclips channel Camelworks exposed in their "how to make Starfield better" video. 53 people made Morrowind with nearly 400 Faction quests in the base game, there were 1,101 people credited as developers on Starfield, they made just 39 faction quests... that is just a stunningly low amount for the size, scope & scale of Starfield. I can see past the engine limits if the game has enough story to make up for it, Starfield just doesn't have that. It works fine for some, great and being able to recognise the issues while still enjoying it even more so. I have nearly 400 hours into it (mostly doing challenges/mod testing but the first 40-50 hours was fun, if a little quirky. Certainly worth the £0 I spent on the game (free code with planned hardware purchase) if not quite £70, maybe £40...
Thanks for the comment, I had no idea how much discrepancy there was between Morrowind and Starfield. I guess its probably very inefficient use of all those resources or too much focus on aesthetics over the actual feel of the game. I agree that it works enough for some and like you I did not have to pay for the game.
i got it on sale and as someone who's most played game is fallout 4 and recognizing its not the greatest game, starfield worked for me as well. though i do like the factions and quests from fallout 4 more
I know a lot of people are complaining about this game but here is how I view it it is almost exactly like Minecraft in both potential and gameplay Similarities In Minecraft you explore procedural generated land, you mine, you fight hostiles, you build, devs update and add stuff, game started bland In starfield you explore procedural generated worlds, you mine, you fight hostiles, you build, devs will start adding stuff, game sorta starting bland There's one thing from Minecraft that starfield doesn't have that could save starfield... Everyone knows how in Minecraft where you can have a multiplayer lobby and if you have mods that those mods are only applied to the hosts save file but when everyone else joins it is a temporary download if starfield could do this for their game I think it would do a lot more with what they already have just by adding this scenario
I do see some similarities with Minecraft as well. I think Minecraft being much much more of a sandbox puts it ahead though. I think NMS before multiplayer was added is also a good comparison. I found it very very boring because to me the exploration got old pretty quick. I think the only reason Starfield has been less boring to me is because there are questlines (despite them not all being great). NMS at least in the first year or two had only the one "questline" and it was not catching on for me. Don't get me wrong though, I think NMS had a lot of things that Starfield is missing but they were not things I cared for I guess.
@@BethesdaQuester I think that the procedurally new content free updates could save starfield it almost seems like that's the route they're going to take
Personally I just disagree on almost everything. I do understand just getting home and turning your brain off though when you just wanna game. I got starfield for free because it's on game pass and I put maybe two hours in and I was so bored out of my mind that I had to put it down. Granted some of it is 100% my personal opinion, but it's not that starfield does a lot of thing well but nothing great, it stretches itself so thin that it's barely playable. The first thing I noticed was the horrendous ui. It was like they were going for an 80's space theme and then took away a lot of the charm and added discomfort navigating it. But maybe it's not so bad outside of that. I do have a mission to explore a lab and take out pirates that threaten my quest. Oh, I'm carrying too much and they have a new stamina system. Maybe it won't be so bad. Oh I can't even crouch walk without losing all my oxygen and filling up my co2 bar within seconds because I picked up everything that looks expensive because they didn't give me much indication that credits were worth not that much individually? Oh well, that could just be on me though because there was a vending machine with a drink for 75 credits so I could have been the only person to miss that. Now that I'm done I've got a lot of good loot worth slowly getting to my ship for, I'm sure I'll be able to find a merchant to sell right after I quickly land on alpha centari... Oh, it put me in orbit after a loading screen? Is there anything for me to do here? No? Just get back in the system map and select the city instead of doing that from the jump so i don't have to go through two separate long loading screens? Oh, I don't know where a merchant would be and the buildings are all super spaced apart meaning I'll have to spend 10 minutes inching to where I suspect a merchant might be. Oh well, maybe somebody else could see the buildings and understand which is what. For now I guess I'll just use the map and figure out where to... Oh. Oh no. Just in case it comes off in a rude way. I just wanna leave an edit to say I was just disappointed in the game and really wished there was more in terms of really anything enjoyable. The story didn't grip me, the gameplay was just boring enough for me to not be able to turn my brain off for, and a lot of the systems I have read about or experienced in my very brief dive into the game just turned me off a lot. The annoyance I convey in the comment is in no way supposed to be an attack on you and I just wanted to make sure it didn't seem like it was.
@@BethesdaQuester fair. If nothing else I’m glad you’re able to enjoy the game. At the end of the day, whether or not the person playing it likes it is all that matters. I’ll probably just wait another year or so before I try it again in hopes it’ll have a lot more patches and updates by then.
It's my favorite game. I really liked your point how it's kind of good at a bunch of game mechanics but other games that focus on that game mechanic are better at it. For example, I'm a CoD gamer, and obviously the game mechanics are way better when it comes to customization in CoD. But I just love how this game makes me want to be an astronaut. It's a very mature game, not in the sense of violence and such but it feels way more realistic and based in science than other sci-fi games. For example, I understand how it would be fun to land your own ship, but to me they make the size of a planet so big in scale, that if you were to actually land that ship it would take an hour to land, like it would in real life. So I don't mind a cut scene. But yeah, to me it's my favorite game because no other game has gotten me to play 300 hours in 3 months. I've had so much fun.
Yes I thought about COD when making the video. If I want an FPS I can play COD, if I want a full space sim I can play EVE online or Elite Dangerous, if you want pure exploration maybe NMS does the trick.. if you want a bit of it all and have limited time like I do Starfield works.. for me anyways.
Bethesda had eight years, unlimited budget, a proverbial army of developers and most of their R&D provided by the modding community and what we got was a step backward in both story and engine design. I am sorry but there should be someone in Microsoft right now wondering where their money went.
I guess there are diminishing returns as you add more resources to videogame development. I would say its more of an art. I do wonder what it would have taken to be better received. I think the writing and other quirks in Starfield are shared with the other Bethesda RPGs so If it had less loading screens and you could fly your ship more seamlessly would it have been a win in your mind?
I'm glad this game worked for you! I know it really was a let down for a good chunk of the community, and I'm not an exception. But I feel like we've lost touch with the reality that what works for some may not work for others, and that 'one man's trash is another man's treasure' is an idiom meant to showcase that something's value is subjective. Too many people are declaring that Starfield is OBJECTIVELY a bad game. But it's not. I didn't like it. I don't feel like it has the value that previous Bethesda games have had, and it feels like a giant step back from Skyrim and even Fallout 4. But, it seems like the average hater is convinced that anyone who enjoys it is objectively just wrong or is being intentionally contrarian to get attention. Enjoy your treasure, my guy!
Couldn't have said it better myself :) It's not a great game, far from it but it's not a bad game either. It's been good enough though for me to get 100% completion and sink 750 hours into it. :D
i look forward to this game getting as many updates as possible and all the DLC is out before i pick up the game for myself, but the other part of my reasoning is simply because my PC is just too old and to upgrade my PC like that will take a significant amount of money that i simply don't have and i don't like wasting money like that on parts for my pc just to play a game. good things come to those who are willing to wait.
Right on! Its all about what is fun to you. I started my Granny challenge because I felt it was a way to make things more fun for me. I am not sure if ill ever make it to 100% completion but I am having a good time with it. Thanks for the comment!
The monetary price of entry is too much for me, and for a game to just chip away at when the adult duties are done, there are better games for that. I'm personally working through my 90's back catalog, currently System Shock Enhanced.
Funnily enough, a friend of mine had the exact same reaction. It's fun in short bursts, and the loudest complainers are people who have the luxury of sitting down and playing stuff for hours upon hours daily. The game definitely is flawed, but it's nowhere near as bad as the dogpiling would suggest.
I really respect your take on this. As someone with a condition and situation that allows me practically limitless time to game, I put 18 days (real world) into Starfield. I was apathetic most of the time and hated many parts of it at the worst, but was very impressed with a handful of moments. The three aspects that kept me going for over 400 hours were the planetary surveying, the leveling grind and the combat. I finally 100%'ed (or as much one can, I suppose) Starfield a few days ago and felt like I could put it down and move on to other things. But your video reminded that, while I don't leave disparaging comments online about games I dislike (considering I _chose_ to keep playing it), games mean different things to different people, and just because I wound up really disliking Starfield despite getting my money's worth out of it, it doesn't mean someone else can't find a really good time with it. I'm glad it satisfies that gaming itch for you in the limited hours you have per week.
Thanks for the comment. I respect you saying you wound up disliking the game after all that playtime. You probably have one of the few wholesome opinions having taking that much time to come to a decision. I think its probably going well for me simply because I play in short spurts and do not burn out.
I was very disappointed with the game but I'm glad you're enjoying it. In some ways it's the best Bethesda game, but in most ways, IMO, it's one of the worst
Thanks for the comment and I would say its not my favorite Bethesda game and it has more problems than previous games. I think that is to be expected with what they tried to do. I wish it was smaller in scope so it could have been greater in detail.
Thank you someone who isn't just mindlessly craping on every inch of starfield I feel the exact same way its a really good time for me and I have no plans to put it down until complete everything that can be completed. #itjustworks
I really liked your take. The game really isn't my cup of tea but it's refreshing to see somebody who truly understands what the game is. Everyone is blowing things out of proportion on steam and there are many videos on youtube about how starfield is literally the worst game ever, but that's really not the case. I think for some people its a fun game to turn your brain off for a while and play it. Personally, I thought it was a fun game on game pass and there are many games out there just like starfield that fill that kind of mindless gaming void.
Agreed, I'm having a blast with it. I think a lot of the disappointment lies within the expectations some had. Of course I was fortunate enough to never look at it like Star Citizen or No Man's Sky but without atmospheric flight, I always looked at it as more of a Mass Effect but with the ability to actually fly the Normandy.
I agree that people would probably not be as harsh if the game just appeared one day with no hype. I do follow Star Citizen (not been playing though). If they manage to pull it off it will blow Starfield away.
I played starfield and I liked it, but I didn't like it as much as I wanted to. The biggest reason was that it was more of a loadingfield than a starfield, and spaceflight wasn't really spaceflight! Also some quests were just a joke and not up to date! For example, there was one quest where you had to help the constellation on their outpost "the eye" or what it was called and help them to repair it. But when you did that, you always just got a popup that described what you did, like you were playing a text adventure and stuff like this happened all the time, so I wasn't amused about that, considering I had to pay 70 Euros for this. Nevertheless, Starfield is surely a very mixed and not very good game and it has a lot of flaws, but it's still not that bad, like the ratings on steam say, but I understand the disappointment and I partly feel the same! But there are also some really good moments, why I think that the overall rating eventually should end up in something like "mixed" and not "mostly bad", but that's surely my own opinion! I appreciate the video, since it's not the most popular, to do a positive review on Starfield these days, and I even think that there is a negative hype that lets it spiral down so much like it recently does!
Yes that quest repairing the Eye is terrible and should never have made it into the game. Thanks for the comment and I sort of knew I would be getting some flack but again I am not trying to get anyone to play. I am just explaining why I am playing it. Making content has made it more fun for me but its far from my favorite game. Just an OK game I don't mind playing here and there.
Bethesda game. It just works. Nothing else. JUST works. It can't do anything better than working. Not all the time either, it just barely works, but that's close enough really. It just works.
Haha well I am not sure we will ever know what Todd meant by "it just works" but I would say that Starfield being functional makes it not a bad game. Personal opinion is what will make it good or bad. Now if its so bugged or constantly crashing for someone than I would agree bad game but for me on xbox its been fine.
@@BethesdaQuester yeah for me I don like these games : TLOU2 , from sftware games in general , baldur's gate 3 , spiderman games , and some others . Video games are of one the most subjective entertainments . Me and my friends always struggle to find a game to play together that all of us like it
Well I don't think I will play it for loads of hours because it lacks the replay value of games like Skyrim but for a single playthrough I don't think its that bad. I have enjoyed most of the faction quests I have done so far. It was just the first few main quests that I did not like much.
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The game is bad. The only positive thing about Starfield is the number of memes it has brought the world. The ship building tool is cool. And…. That’s it. If it works for you, respect for freedom of choice. The rest of the world have already spoken on how garbage it is.
Todd Howard: "It's a bethesda game through and through" Everyone else: "WTF? Why doesn't this play like no man's sky or destiny! And why are there no cars to explore these barren planets that Todd said were for resources only? I want to see if there's a monster at the end of this resource-only planet! They made them long so you'd pass the 2 hour refund!" (See Endymion, but honestly don't give his channel any more credit, he's a grifter).
@@BethesdaQuester I fell out of love regarding Bethesda a long time ago. It used to make great games, now it just makes dirt. Back in the day when I played Morrowind, it was an awesome experience, but it was all downhill from there. Younger generations praise Skyrim but that game was just a fraction, just a sliver of what Bethesda could once craft - and herein lies the issue, because without criticism, without massive rebuttal, they see no reason to change course, to do better, to return to the standard they once set.
Haha well I have found that despite most Bethesda games being flawed there are not that many games like Bethesda RPGs. Sure there are better RPGs but they are usually not first person. And there are lots of better first person games but they tend to be more linear or focused on you playing as an established character rather than being able to roleplay whoever you choose.
so your whole point is it is a braindead gane that suits people who dont want anything from a game except for making a couple of hours pass by? so its a therapy game? or a praise towards nietzsches nihlism? i really dont get it. it does literally nothing. no stimulation whatsoever, just... meh
Well I probably did a bad job making my points. I guess I just don't get bothered by the issues most people have with the game. I do not walk away from my 2 hour session feeling like nothing happened. I just do one mission or part of a story and sure maybe a good chunk of that was dialog or loading screens but it doesn't really bother me. If the game was crashing or something it would bug me but it works and I find the story interesting so I am fine with it.
I understand why this game isnt for some people. But i am still enjoying the hell out of it. Its a game that you have to make your own fun with by diving in to role playing or doing challenges, stuff like that. Which again isnt for everyone.
Yeah, it´s a bit like that for me as well. I´m annoyed by this "you have to love or hate" thing. Something is either legendary good or the biggest shit ever made and you have to be on one side or the other and when you aren´t on my side - you are a liar! I like bethesda games but don´t love them. I think they are all poorly written and staged when it comes to quests, characters and dialogues, but they all have this feature to suck you in the world for a short amount of time. Starfield works for me because I have fun playing it. It´s that easy. Not every game has to be a masterpiece, most games aren´t but still can be fun. It´s not the only game I play. I love games from Rockstar, CDPR, I love Baldur´s Gate 3 and I have to say that I liked Diablo 4, too. So I don´t get the point of comparing every game while you can play what you want, even a title which costs nothing with gamepass. It´s weird that you made this video, explaining why you like to play a game. Like saying sorry for liking something...
Thanks for all the comments everyone! I am working through them and trying to respond to everyone. I knew this would be divisive but that tends to lead to good discussion. I am already thinking I may need to do a second video sometime as there are a lot of interesting topics to discuss. I need to stress I am not trying to sell the game to anyone, I am simply explaining why I play it and that in my opinion its not a bad game. Not a bad game does not mean its a great game either.
A truly unpredictable and wild take from 'BethesdaQuester'
Haha well yeah.. Bethesda content is fun to make
On the other hand, only a soulless and bland ESG drone, barely human, would like this goyslop made by financial blackmail from shekelsteins to destroy western studios. No wonder if 'BethesdaQueerster' loves it.
@@BethesdaQuester bro just play whatever you like, and create whatever content you want. If you like games as bland as white people chicken, than you be you bro im not even kidding just be happy
the only part about Starfield that really bothers is me is the unhinged negativity from the internet. The game itself is great. Not perfect, but a solid first entry into a new IP. The NASA nerd in me absolutely loved this game.
I am also a NASA nerd!
Nah most of the negativity is well deserved. Any video I see shitting on it demonstrates WHY they hate it so much perfectly.
I mean... you said it right there. 'shitting on it'. There's a difference between 'this game isn't for me, and here are the reasons why' or 'I have several critiques of this game and this is why' and 'shitting on' a game (and let's be real, much of it is unfair).
The internet has an obsession with wanting to see big studios fail and they will absolutely project that obsession onto any situation until they can build a narrative, and the toxicity is contagious. It's sad.
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Well I personally hope Bethesda does go bankrupt, most overrated game studio ever.@@Celoth
OK.@@jcselement
Starfield is kind of a childhood fantasy simulator for me. Flying spaceships and walking around on empty planets picking up cool rocks is something I've dreamt of doing for a long time. I'm 24 years old so maybe some day I can do those things in real life but until then, Starfield it is.
Nice! I hope we see it become reality soon.. Just saw there are delays on the return to the Moon though..
If thats the stuff you are looking for its idiotic you are playing starfield and not no mans sky.
@@AKABoondock19 They are different games.
You are the one who described no mans sky, not me, @@disaster_chief
And yes, they are very different. One, no mans sky, is a good game, the other, starfield, a below average one. @@disaster_chief
i bought starfield for skyrim in space and i feel like i got what i expected. not an earth shattering game, but still a good one.
Yeah that's it in a nutshell for sure.
I was expecting the same (hence the user name) & i'm really glad we got something different! Flawed, but still brilliant.
I played and enjoyed Starfield because it's chill and I could play at my own pace, I grew up with Space Invaders Donkey Kong and Pac man and still get blown away with what games have become. Games not perfect but neither am I.
I agree and maybe that's why I like it. Its slower paced and more grounded. My kids play a lot of games that are flashy and crazy and maybe I am just getting old but I rather relax when I am gaming. I play a bit of Warzone when I want to get stressed out lol.
Me, too. A pocket full of quarters… those were the days of Dragons Lair being considered innovation!
After I pull my hair out from playing Warzone I play Starfield to grow it back 👌🏾😎
Sounds like you have similar feelings towards the game as I do. In so many words it sounds like you’re saying it’s a relaxing game. Which it is… too relaxing. I finally realized it’s too relaxing which kinda means boring. Granted, as Mattyplays points out, this game is not meant to be played like a normal Bethesda game (whether that was intentional or not, not sure anyone knows), and I try to play it like a Bethesda game because I can’t help myself.
I don’t dislike the game, I just expected a lot more from it. I bought jedi survivor for 50% off recently and I jumped ship really quick because that game is tons of fun! Hopefully I get the itch to play starfield again but right now, I don’t see that happening. It just doesn’t have the “it” factor for me that drives me nuts to finally get some free time to play games. And I think that has to do with the fact that the game has really bad downtime. When you’re doing a quest, it’s fun and exciting, but everything in between is really boring, bland, repetitive etc. I mean, to survey a planet to 100% can take an hour sometimes and that is not fun. In Skyrim, in between every quest was multiple handcrafted locations, npc’s and more quests. In starfield, it’s the same raiders outpost on every planet… I’m sick of clearing the same outpost every time!
Again, I don’t hate the game, it’s just not what I was expecting from what was being described to me and it spectacularly underdelivered. They did use the description “Skyrim in space” and that’s not at all what we got.
All valid arguments. It really is not for everyone. I think the way I play and that I enjoy making videos helps me stay with it.
This is basically me
Between 2 jobs and family, I am right there with the desire to have an experience like starfield where i can plug and then plug out in short order. I've looked at other "masterpiece" games as well, but man, I dont have time for games like that anymore.
Yep.. Thanks for the comment!
I have played this game for over 900 hours.
Why? I have no idea but I can't stop
that's how i felt with skyrim with over 10,000 hours after playing it for a full decade trying out new playthroughs and mods and all kinds of stuff getting immersed in the lore, it's been a fun time and things just get better and better as time has gone on.
Haha wow well you are for sure getting your money's worth!
10,000!! wow. I have to admit I have not played nearly that much Skyrim but I do really like it. I think Granny might just visit there sometime soon..
This game is so good, the longevity is insane for a vanilla Bethesda experience.
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yeah i had about 8,000 in skyrim LE, and then i put a few more thousand on SSE, i also had a few hundred hours on my 360, but i don't remember the hours i had logged in for the console version.
but yeah, steam kept track for me.
The copy/paste exactly the same dungeons and then the main story basically being a repeating multiverse making anything you do intentionally pointless killed the whole game for me. It was fun and I was enjoying it until that realization settled in. Its funny because I'm a habitual dungeon clearer and loot hoarding and ironically this game taught me to just let it all go.
I get that and for sure I wont be grinding this game or worrying too much about NG+. I am enjoying the quests and what not but I don't think ill be going back to it once I am done until the DLC drops.
Best part about Starfield to me was the fact I manage to make a old man who looks exactly like my grandad...but the dialogue system was basically The Elder Scrolls with this weird closeups on NPC, - and not like Fallout 4 - so I could not look at my space grandad saying stupid things so it ended before even started the only thing I could like about this game with crap ass quests and weak story.
That's it. Didn't work for me.
Thanks for the feed-back! The character creator is for sure a massive improvement over previous games. The fact that you have enough control to make someone from real life is nuts.
That hit home. I have both the 5 and series X. Majority of my friends are on 5. But theres times after a mental work breakdown i don't want to be chatty and just game in silence or alone. Starfield is that game. I dig it. Are there things that could've been done better, sure. But i love it. The exploration all the things to do. And i can do them at my pace. Mission focused or side quests.. or just bs on a planet all day long. Maybe it isn't complexed enough for some.
Exactly I play for 2 hours a session once or twice a week and its fine for me.
It’s called bad taste, or just your first video game
@@CK-lt6jlsure.. If you said so
stretching for every loading screen would make me into a professional yogi
Think how great you would feel!
I totally agree. Bethesda games all have this quality of being like comfort food. Once you get over the hump of learning the controls and navigating their invariably wonky UIs, all Bethesda games just become incredibly easy to engage with. I can always find some new activity to ping-pong around to when I get tired of doing something. I don't think it's a coincidence that I want to play Baldur's Gate 3 during the day and Bethesda games at night, simply because Bethesda games are this very chilled-out, not-at-all-cerebral experience. Playing on PC and having access to the console commands gives me almost complete control over this gigantic sandbox, and mods let me tinker and perfect my game world to my exact specifications. Starfield has this same quality, but I can't shake the feeling that it may not have the same "legs" as Skyrim, Oblivion, or Morrowind. I think for me that mostly comes down to the leveling system that doesn't encourage restarting to try new character builds.
Starfield is far from perfect, but it's also far from the terrible game the internet is making it out to be. It advanced the Bethesda formula in some ways and failed to advance it (or took steps backward) in others. Mods and DLC will improve the game, but it'll never be everything to everyone (which I think is the expectation of some players). I do think that in time and with mods and DLC and patches, Starfield will be redeemed in the eyes of the player base (like Cyberpunk 2077 or No Man's Sky, both of which got the "trash game, 0/10, do not buy" treatment upon launch, and are now widely praised).
Totally agree thanks for the insight!
Man that's a lot of apologetics for a game that would *never take a single risk* for *you, the person actually playing it.*
I really think, that you can appreciate the game for what it is.
There are two things, I want to criticize about the game:
- When companies like Bethesda get lazy and deliver a game that is poorly developed and is sold for a premium price and should be conceived as one of the best games of all time.
- When some people think, it must be the game of the year or even more, because it comes from their beloved gaming company and they don't understand that there are also different tastes and concepts in the world.
Both notions are in effect destructive to the whole gaming community (if there is one) -- because it degrades gamers as cash-cows which have to pay for whatever the big corporations are serving them. It takes away creativity and makes the gaming industry a purely mechanical process to get more cash from the stupid consumers.
I am not at all into looter shooters but I play Space Engineers. They figured out the solution to Starfields problem of all empty space. There is a mod (Modular Encounter Spawner) that spawns player created content (from the Steam workshop) according to rules set in a player created scenario (also from the Steam workshop). If you want to fight space battles all the time, or raid cargo ships, or scavenge for materials on a dystopian planet you only need to go find a scenario that does so on the Steam workshop. And if you can't find what you need but have a basic knowledge of general modding you can build your own scenarios and upload them to the workshop.
It's never ending content variation that follows you around wherever you are.
Right on! Ill have to give it a try! Thanks for the comment
@@BethesdaQuester SE has a bit of a steep learning curve. The place to get started is with this guy ruclips.net/video/kL8XQ1Avz-0/видео.html
I dont have a machine that could even run it. I have been following a bunch of reviews because Im fascinated by the (possibly cursed) problem of combining unlimited procedural worlds with an RPG.
I think what you are saying coincides with what certain other people that enjoy the game have been saying. They don't mind the lack of a complicated epic space opera with tightly interwoven stories because if you are only playing when you get a chance you want something more casual, eg a looter shooter type where you can complete a decent half-hour gameloop and not be lost the next time you step into it.
That is good news in the sense that I think the looter shooter gameloop is one part of the game that we know how to make dramatically better, even on purely procedural maps. At the moment it has the puzzling flaw that the game spawns an allegedly small number of bases with the exact same clutter and everything. Not even basic procedural generation.
THAT, at least, can be dramatically improved. If not by DLC, I expect even modders could trivially add to the database of special locations, and add procedural variation to those locations as well. I expect someone could even write a full on procedural dungeon crawler using the modular base building mechanic.
it is really puzzling why Bethesda had not already addressed this. In fact I would say it is _impossible_ that they were not painfully aware of such a basic missing feature.
*My theory is this:* I think microsoft in some way stepped in and set a date after which Bethesda was not allowed to add more features and could only do bugfixes. This is considered basic good software development practice, but I think it destroyed Bethesda's janky magic.
Here are the points I think it connects:
* Bethesda was recently bought by M$ which wanted a flagship game for XBox. M$ knew Bethesda was infamous for games that were vastly buggy on release so it is likely they made such a demand.
* One reviewer did in fact claim that Microsoft had delayed release for more bugfixing.
* This game did reportedly release in an unusually unbuggy state for Bethesda.
* but instead it lacked some core game features: eg sufficient variation of special locations, and a good purpose for bases.
* There was in fact mention that a fuel feature was removed because it was killing fun.. but thus the bases were pointless. It seems clear the real fix they needed was to find/finish the feature that integrated bases.
* In this context, I suspect Emilio's comment about reviewers no understanding the realities of game development makes so much more sense. He was really frustrated that he was gagged from saying why he had to release a game with these humiliatingly obvious omissions, and listen to reviewers implying he was so incompetent he was unaware of these omissions.
That makes a lot of sense. I was wondering myself if MS getting involved had an impact. I agree a lot of things can be fixed with updates and it does sound like a considerable team is staying on the project. I did hear about a more survival focused mod which I assume will include the features that were considered to be "killing the fun". For me I almost always play games on their hardest difficulty and survival modes. I get why the masses do not like these modes but for me it forces a slower more thought out play style.
I think that most people, like me, went into this game to explore exciting worlds. But there is nothing INTERESTING to explore and huge amount of copypasta totaly ruined it for me. So only after few boring hours i started noticing those other flaws and questioned myself, why i even wasting my time with this. However i understand, when people are having fun with any game, we are all different.
Thanks for the comment and I get it. I make it more fun for myself with challenges and I just avoid exploration after the first visit to a planet. I do not care to grind for all the resources flora and fauna.
Not just that, but the NPC's are boring as hell. Someone put it best, "the animals in BG3 are far more entertaining to talk than the NPC's in Starfield." I mean, if you enjoy it, you enjoy it, though.
I also agree but planetary exploration in Starfield is way worse n more boring than Dav’s Hope in Elite Dangerous. Bethesda would really benefit from understanding why Elite n NMS n Rebel Galaxy work for space geeks like ourselves. I really wish i had a way to talk w Bethesda decision makers to toss this idea their way.
It has exploration issues but, questing, is miles better than previous games
I see the problems but they don't bother me neither. The loading screens can be draining and immersion breaking but I play and do other stuff on the side, so they're actually benefitable in a weird way. I love starfield. I have over 1000 hours of playtime and I'm not bored of it yet, I just wish there were more npcs to romance tho, not just only 4. Good video btw! XD
Thanks for the support!
I really like it and I dont really care about the loading screens and invisible walls. My biggest problem is how little action there is, over 80 hours in, barely done any ship and base building and most of the missions is just talking to npcs and traveling so i can talk to more of them
The ship building and base building is the best part of the game for me. Go steal some ships and rebuild them into whatever your feeling like at the moment, small fighter, big gunship, cargo hauler. Find some planets with rare valuable resources and you'll have a non stop credit farm. You can also sell the ships for a nice chunk of credits. I'm on my 4th NG and haven't done one quest yet. Even though I enjoy the vanguard one and the freestar one. I actually haven't been a pirate yet although I hear it's a great quest. I just enjoy stealing their ships though.
I have not done much in those areas either. I really felt a lack of action in New Atlantis but in Neon there was quite a bit. The way I play with all the distraction quests means I hit some slow spots but I make it fun with the role playing aspect of my playthrough.
I dont understand this roleplay term i keep hearing. Is it because im too old???
I feel the same. I'm enjoying Starfield, but it's definitely no fallout or skyrim level. I wish they would have just concentrated on making the next elder scrolls game. Since I didn't expect to like it at all, I guess I'm one of the few people who are actually pleasantly surprised at how much I like it.
Right on! Thanks for the comment
Love your perspective! By and large I'm enjoying Starfield, and find a lot to appreciate. Some days I've played it 6 or 7 hours at a time, but other days - like you - I just dip into it for a couple of hours, and dink around with a random side quest, or do a little exploring, get into an unexpected gunfight, etc. By the way, your "Granny" videos are a total hoot... please make more!
Thanks for the support! I am working hard to get the next Granny video out soon!
Based. As someone who also loves Starfield and has had a ton of fun in it I fundamentally do not understand how people could classify it as “bad”. Is it everything folks wanted? No. But jeez, people are ridiculous calling it bad. Bad is a 4/10 and lower… Starfield is a solid 7/10 with parts that reach 8/10 :)
Thanks for this, its the point I was trying to make and probably did not say properly. A bad game is one that is unplayable or was a scam. Starfield at least on xbox works fine.
I personally would give it like a 2/10. I would genuinely rather play an objective bad game cus they usually at least make me laugh, Starfield was the most boring game I legit think I've played in at least 15 years.
@@jcselement sure babe :)
@@BethesdaQuester What I've seen is that people are calling it bad relative to other bethesda games and relative to other significant AAA releases. In an absolute sense most people seem to be saying it's pretty mid, 5 or 6/10. Which compared to the revamped release of cyberpunk, relative even to a game like current NMS, just doesn't measure up.
Even in these comments the general feeling seems to be the more you play it the worse it gets, which is actually what I've been hearing a lot.
Completely agree with this take. I dont think anyone would disagree that the game is disappointing, but its honestly suprising to see how many consider it bad. Its been fascinating for me to watch as the game has basically had the opposite trajectory of all other modern AAA games. I think the relative praise the game received at launch is the best indicator of it being squarely in the dissapponting category rather than the "bad" category. Did I want something like Skyrim in space? Yes. An I disappointed in getting something much closer to a fallout 4 in space? A bit. But if you constantly trash evey 7/10 as a 2/10 then you're very rarely going to get a masterpiece. Most of the greatest games of all time or built on the shoulders of their more underwhelming predecessors (even if they arent direct sequels). But, that isnt an excuse for the lack of innovation, its just a defense of the work that is put in, its not a GOTY but its not worthy of the "overwhelmingly negative" tag either, objectively the game has a bunch of issues and is plenty enjoyable if you play it the way it wants you to, but if you dont want to play a linear, pretty surface level Philosophy spaceman game with some impressive ship building and rock solid customization and gunplay with some interesting perks then you arent going to enjoy it and that's fine, just as some won't enjoy BRs, MOBAs, Rogue-likes, etc.
Exactly! thanks for the comment.
they were phucked from the start by putting the game on so many planets. the first time i ran into 2 identical pirate bases on 2 separate planets i knew something went wrong. there is no way bethesda did that and thought in any way that that cud be ok lol. i think if it was just on one star system or somehow on one map (no planetary travel, like a less apocalyptic fallout) it could have been one of the greatest games of all time.
Totally agree. I think the scale is way off what would have been practical. Clearly they took a risk and it did not pay off but it still very playable for me.
The game is average, not great and definitely not bad. Those who are crying loudest about Starfield being boring are the ones who had too high of expectations for this game.
Hell, people seem to forget Skyrim and Fallout 4 are also rather average games. In their vanilla form. Without mods.
Although I must admit it seems Bethesda is making it harder to mod their games. I didn't enjoy modding Fallout 4, it was a nuisance trying to go back and forth patching every broken mechanic, then the constant game updates continuously broke the mods. Same with Skyrim SE/AE. I'm not looking forward to experiencing all of these same headaches with Starfield. (Yes, if you're wondering, the ideal Bethesda game to mod is Skyrim LE).
I have no idea how mods work but it sounds frustrating to deal with. Isn't there some announced update for better mod support? I thought I heard something about it recently.
HOW IS THIS THIS WHOLESOME😢❤
Thanks for the support!
I hadn't played it yet , too much going on in my life .
Fair enough, I hope you eventually get a chance to try it out.
It works very well also for me. I'm currently at 250h and I keep doing great quests. Plus, I adore lofi setting
Good to hear!
"Take a shot every loading screen." You'd be dead in an hour at most if you did that. 😂😂😂
haha yep that is why I want to be clear I was only joking lol.
I was so exited when it came out that i build a pc just for it . Beside the loading screen and the transports issues , the worse thing is after 160 hours in after the main quest and factions quest are done, there is noting interesting left to do beside building ship and outpost , this is the biggest flaw of this game. I played Skyrim for a decade and always find something to go back to it , not seeing that with that game.
That is something I suspected would be an issue. I do not think Starfield in its current state has much replay ability. If you do not like the NG+ gameplay loop there is not enough variety in character builds to play again.
Those games have multiple DLC. I only played Fallout and purchased it with all DLCs I wonder what the original product sold a Fallout 4 looked like.
I’m lvl 50, focus on shipbuilding (buying and selling) raiding, and gun builds.
I like the pace, don’t mind the loading screens while I puff a j, and feel I am just getting comfortable with the game as a whole.
Some quests are bugged, and the game isn’t perfect, but I still enjoy playing…
Cheers
Yep feel the same way. There are problems but there are also enough things to keep me interested.
There are some interesting ways to have fun with Starfield.
Totally, there is a lot to do and despite some annoying aspects you can maneuver around them and have a good time if you want to.
I'm so jealous of you guys. I legit want to no life the game. 1000 planets? I WISH I could find it engaging. I'm going through a really rough time irl and was so looking forward to a distraction that could be skyrim or fallout but new, more modern in 2023 for me. Ugh.
I get that. You could maybe try a challenge run or something to see if that helps with engagement.
Earth Defense Force 5
Simply forget about 1000 planets, go there only with quests and you will enjoy it
Honestly I just found starfield to have 0 personality, minimum choice, boring exploration, boring locations, grindy combat and very un memorable weapons or Armour/apparel and this is coming from someone who loves Bethesda and all their previous games, the game just feels like it’s missing in so many departments.
Edit* just wanted to add I’ve got 1 day 8 hours game times so I’ve gave it time but all that time was spent waiting on enjoyment that was never brought, feels more like a task fast travelling to each wee quest then fast travelling back, whilst experiencing 4 loading screens in the process
That is a fair assessment and I think many people will stop once they have played one playthrough or done most of the content they were interested in. I am probably going to end up there as well but I think making content has made it more fun for me. Hopefully the try to find ways to address some of these things with the updates.
they could have made it like skyrim if they dramatically scaled back the planets, and i mean dramatically like maybe 10 to 15 planets, a thousand, come on, we all knew that was a dumb idea from the beginning.
but it's what Todd wanted after he saw what NMS was all about and tried to deliver on the same kind of game and fell dramatically short of his goals.
Fair point, but I wonder if there are diminishing returns in how the complexity of a game stacks up .For example, would one hyper detailed planet have still be infinitely bigger and harder to do that 1000 shallow ones? maybe somebody can comment who knows more on that. I would imagine the limits are much tighter than we think.
So, I respect your opinion, but a few things to keep in mind are that the technology isn't there yet is a red herring. No man's sky in 2016 had better spaceflight, and better procgen. Sure, the game still sucked, but it sucked because it lacked stuff to do outside of run around and build stuff.
You are correct that Skyrim density is basically impossible on the scale of Starfield, but you don't really bring up that Skyrim had mostly hand-crafted experiences and a world that made sense internally.
Fair enough, I think the procedural generation does a good job with the terrain but there is too much land to cover with a few dozen structure types.
I installed it launch day on Xbox gamepass. Ran in to a bunch of bugs before I finished the tutorial, got to the big city at the end of the tutorial and I had to wear the spacesuit inside otherwise my character would suffocate. Exited and uninstalled the game, utterly boring and missing all the wonder and charm of skyrim. terrible game. im a huge bethesda fan and have played all their games and was really excited for this but it is just crap.
Fair enough thanks for the comment!
i started the game up again today since probably the beginning of October. i had a really good time with it
That's what its all about, its your time not someone else's so you do you!
I actually enjoy the game. What I like about is that Bethesda didn’t try to reinvent the wheel, instead they stuck to the same formula, giving you a main quest line with a bijiliion smaller quests and let you do your own thing.
It’s just a good old Bethesda game, and I’m ok with that.
I think they did update the formula a bit but its quite possible it would have been better received if they did nothing new.. But we don't want that either so I think a bit of experimenting is always good even if they find new features are not enjoyed by the community.
My main gripe is how lifeless but overpopulated the planets are at the same time.
Procgen is really poorly made, you land on an "unexplored" planet and it is spammed full of abandoned bases, while the forests have zero floor texture variation and bushes are in the weirdest places.
Yes I felt that for the lore to be believable you would actually need a lot less development on the planets. In only a few hundred years you would not have several human built structures per each tile of each planet. The procedural generation of the terrain I find pretty convincing as the planets geography looks pretty natural. The seeding of each tile of terrain with "random" hand built structures is a poor choice. On the flip side people would have probably complained if there was nothing but wilderness even if it was more realistic in terms of forest density etc. NMS did the same thing and it was boring to me pretty quickly. Ill admit I have not gone back to NMS and I know they have greatly improved it. When I was playing it exploration was the point of the game and seeing the same stuff in a different color was not interesting to me. In Starfield exploration is optional so I just do less of it and don't burn out.
@@BethesdaQuester You might find the procedural generation pretty convincing until you see this:
ruclips.net/video/A7tp4eg0ax8/видео.html
100% procgen 4sqkm map.
BGS could have bought that entire company with the $400m budget and it would have probably made the game cheaper and better.
Great video and very succinct! I like games like Starfield, Diablo 4, and AC Valhalla just so i can explore and unplug. I've still got games like GoW: Ragnarok, Lies of P, etc waiting for me but right now, I just want to chill. This gamer Dad agrees.
Right on! thanks for the comment!
I've been at it for 415 hours and still have plenty more stuff to do while also providing so much more content each universe I appear in. I absolutely love this game. At this point now it is my favorite vanilla Bethesda game of all time. The woke undertones can be off putting to be honest, but just go to another planet for God sakes, you don't have to deal with that crap in this game. I will say though that if Elder Scrolls 6 decides to have one world space the wokeness needs to be nonexistent, that'll kill that game tbh.
I have not really run into that stuff but I agree its not too hard to steer around if it bugs you.
I hate that woke term. Look, if it doesnt affect you, let people exist as they are n want to be. It takes nothing from your life. Unless you let it do so. Live n let live. Im a fan of inclusion. I come from a time (teen in the 80’s) when being a geek or different got you jumped n assaulted. Its why i became a lifetime martial arts student. Let go of anger n see what other people have to share. Youll be pleasantly surprised in most cases. And for those who turn out to be jerks… shake the dust from your sandals n move on.
I've come to the conclusion that those of us over 40 or 45 are enjoying the game. We understand it's not perfect but are having a decent time and look forward to how the game turns out.
I think this is very accurate. In fact my other videos tend to have very positive feed-back and the analytics suggest the majority of viewers are 40s and up. I am not sure why but maybe that will be a topic in another video. Thanks for the comment!
I’m 56 years old. So yeah, I get what you’re saying.
Tell bethesda to let me grow space weed.
Well you can make Aurora so I guess that "Just works"
i was very disappointed, for several reasons. but this is a good video, i highly commend you for saying it works for you without trying to absolve the game of its issues. i can see where you're cming from. respect.
Thanks!
BG3 isn’t that complicated. I’m playing it casually a few hours a day and the hardest part is stopping because it’s so engaging. I’m glad you like starfeild but I don’t think a busy life is an excuse for not playing BG3. It’s the best game I’ve played in the last 10 years, excluding disco elysium.
That is good to hear maybe I will finally get into it!
Ditto. - That I game on PC / XBOX, with both Gamepass, and Steam. Means that just because chip manufacturers are playing corpo politics, with untimely drivers; I instead played Starfield on XBOX instead of PC. - and its getting more and more like that.
I play a lot of survival games that have a similar mish-mash of mechanics and I think Starfields very good. I also prefer machete nareatives over linear ones; and the larger the environment, the less hand-holding I want.
I love that you can sometimes go to completely unrelated NPCs you've connected with from other quest lines, and sometimes they'll have an insight on what uou are doing, if you need help. - Thats a working relationship. Those things are cool. Theres a lot of cool things in the game.
Maybe the point is you can play it however you want. Construct your own gameplay loop, but don't complain if you learn / feel like, you missed anything. - I always create a hard save, just after character creation. I have two characters; a main NG+ 6 /7 (heavy questing), and another I restarted from NG+ 48, because I felt like I wasted it, instead of really playing it.
Yeah there is enough of everything in Starfield to keep me interested. I am not 100% sure I am convinced I will enjoy a second playthrough as I feel like it will be very similar regardless how I build my character. I hope to be proven wrong but otherwise once there are major updates or the DLC ill jump back in.
@@BethesdaQuester I reckon, the more stuff you unlock through questing, those results feed into the NG+ generator. So in terms of who is where, and quest conditions, info on slates. Things can change up subtley, or a lot. - forcing you to reassess your approach to things. - even play the game in a totally different way.
But if you've played 3 months straight of Starfield. You're probably gonna want a visual break, at least.
I love starfield, glad i came across this will share with people because this helps explain what i cant say 😁 (Im bad with words)
Haha well I am not sure I did the best job explaining it either but I appreciate the support!
THIS. Despite me disliking many things about Starfield, I played it longer than most games in recent history.
btw, buying a state-of-the-art SSD helps tremendously with the loading screens.
Yeah I am not even sure it will run without an SSD will it? On the Xbox Series X the loading screens are pretty quick.
@@BethesdaQuester I guess most, if not all PCs built in the last years have a SSD, as all consoles have, but there are big differences in SSD speeds. The loading screens are usually just a second or less for me, but there are SSDs up to 10 times slower.
Same here. I really don’t play any other games. Don’t have the time for others.
Not to mention I’m not the typical gamer.
I play a few others and also probably am not typical. Thanks for the comment
I’ve been playing daily for several hours a day since launch. Ive re-started 4 times due to game breaking glitches/bugs/corrupted saves n have blown off finishing Ryujin as i cant get info slate to david at SSNN… Trade Authority kiosk, Tree by the bar, and the ground is missing in New Atlantis… my ships disappear or parts dont load in, bosses are killed by their teammates (which is hilarious), n Bethesda ignores my trouble tickets, and reddit n Twitter posts… but, i keep re-starting n playing. It combines what i enjoy from Destiny, Elite Dangerous, Rebel Galaxy, Halo, Dishonored (when i feel like being a Ninja on xbox). Its a mess but one i still enjoy daily for hours each day. I can’t tell you why but i enjoy the game. The story needs serious work n the voice actors need alot more lines and the copy/pasta is even worse than the endless loading screens. Why we can’t FLY our ships, i dont understand n the space combat is Meh. But i like the game n keep playing. Maybe im just a masochist???
Haha thanks for the comment! I think we all tolerate a some level of pain for these games but I still want to play them anyways.
Starfield was well worth the $15 I put into it (more like $7 fully considering how many GamePass games I actually played during the month I was playing Starfield). To be completely fair, it's worth $20 in its current state...and $30 is pushing it. If I had to pay $70 for it like the Steam reviewers had to I'd be pissed, too. Flat out: Steam has better space games available for cheaper.
That's fair, I am also playing on GamePass and get plenty of value from it. Thanks for the comment!
But non of them are like Starfield: huge rpg set in lofi environments. So, it's OK dislike it but no, there's no similar games
Despite all the crap I hear about this game, I still want to play it.
Maybe I should finish Skyrim and Fallout 4 before I touch any more BGS games first (and get a better computer.) But even as I'm watching scathing reviews of Starfield, I wanna play it.
Most of the critiques are valid so its an informed decision. It is a game that is as good as you make it. I think the Elder Scrolls and Fallout games are better games to binge and replay because you will be able to have a different feel each time you play. Starfield in my opinion is more of a marathon with a single character type game because there are less build options.
Whenever they decite to optimize the game so that things stop popping in on me and freezing then maybe i'll get back into it. but I have to play locked at 30fps else the game likes to die
I get that and it was a bit of a slap in the face to have Todd say get a better rig when we all have seen how expensive things have become. I am playing on Xbox so being locked at 30fps is all I know and the game runs well. Hopefully they will work on optimization moving forward for all the PC players.
people say things are "shit" they never played to get validation from peers they don't know and clicks on youtube/reddit
Yep
I don't think it's a bad game, just a game held back by poor design & management choices. There's a dearth of Bethesda content in the game which the RUclips channel Camelworks exposed in their "how to make Starfield better" video. 53 people made Morrowind with nearly 400 Faction quests in the base game, there were 1,101 people credited as developers on Starfield, they made just 39 faction quests... that is just a stunningly low amount for the size, scope & scale of Starfield. I can see past the engine limits if the game has enough story to make up for it, Starfield just doesn't have that.
It works fine for some, great and being able to recognise the issues while still enjoying it even more so. I have nearly 400 hours into it (mostly doing challenges/mod testing but the first 40-50 hours was fun, if a little quirky. Certainly worth the £0 I spent on the game (free code with planned hardware purchase) if not quite £70, maybe £40...
Thanks for the comment, I had no idea how much discrepancy there was between Morrowind and Starfield. I guess its probably very inefficient use of all those resources or too much focus on aesthetics over the actual feel of the game. I agree that it works enough for some and like you I did not have to pay for the game.
NO way this guy said get up and stretch during the constant 5 second loading screens
You bet! I can touch my toes now!
@@BethesdaQuester 🤡🤡🤡
i got it on sale and as someone who's most played game is fallout 4 and recognizing its not the greatest game, starfield worked for me as well. though i do like the factions and quests from fallout 4 more
Yeah I play on gamepass but for sure the factions are not all top tier.
I know a lot of people are complaining about this game but here is how I view it it is almost exactly like Minecraft in both potential and gameplay
Similarities
In Minecraft you explore procedural generated land, you mine, you fight hostiles, you build, devs update and add stuff, game started bland
In starfield you explore procedural generated worlds, you mine, you fight hostiles, you build, devs will start adding stuff, game sorta starting bland
There's one thing from Minecraft that starfield doesn't have that could save starfield... Everyone knows how in Minecraft where you can have a multiplayer lobby and if you have mods that those mods are only applied to the hosts save file but when everyone else joins it is a temporary download if starfield could do this for their game I think it would do a lot more with what they already have just by adding this scenario
After reading this, i'm slowly understanding the type of people who enjoy Starfield.
I do see some similarities with Minecraft as well. I think Minecraft being much much more of a sandbox puts it ahead though. I think NMS before multiplayer was added is also a good comparison. I found it very very boring because to me the exploration got old pretty quick. I think the only reason Starfield has been less boring to me is because there are questlines (despite them not all being great). NMS at least in the first year or two had only the one "questline" and it was not catching on for me. Don't get me wrong though, I think NMS had a lot of things that Starfield is missing but they were not things I cared for I guess.
@@BethesdaQuester I think that the procedurally new content free updates could save starfield it almost seems like that's the route they're going to take
Personally I just disagree on almost everything. I do understand just getting home and turning your brain off though when you just wanna game. I got starfield for free because it's on game pass and I put maybe two hours in and I was so bored out of my mind that I had to put it down. Granted some of it is 100% my personal opinion, but it's not that starfield does a lot of thing well but nothing great, it stretches itself so thin that it's barely playable.
The first thing I noticed was the horrendous ui. It was like they were going for an 80's space theme and then took away a lot of the charm and added discomfort navigating it. But maybe it's not so bad outside of that. I do have a mission to explore a lab and take out pirates that threaten my quest.
Oh, I'm carrying too much and they have a new stamina system. Maybe it won't be so bad. Oh I can't even crouch walk without losing all my oxygen and filling up my co2 bar within seconds because I picked up everything that looks expensive because they didn't give me much indication that credits were worth not that much individually? Oh well, that could just be on me though because there was a vending machine with a drink for 75 credits so I could have been the only person to miss that. Now that I'm done I've got a lot of good loot worth slowly getting to my ship for, I'm sure I'll be able to find a merchant to sell right after I quickly land on alpha centari...
Oh, it put me in orbit after a loading screen? Is there anything for me to do here? No? Just get back in the system map and select the city instead of doing that from the jump so i don't have to go through two separate long loading screens?
Oh, I don't know where a merchant would be and the buildings are all super spaced apart meaning I'll have to spend 10 minutes inching to where I suspect a merchant might be. Oh well, maybe somebody else could see the buildings and understand which is what. For now I guess I'll just use the map and figure out where to... Oh. Oh no.
Just in case it comes off in a rude way. I just wanna leave an edit to say I was just disappointed in the game and really wished there was more in terms of really anything enjoyable. The story didn't grip me, the gameplay was just boring enough for me to not be able to turn my brain off for, and a lot of the systems I have read about or experienced in my very brief dive into the game just turned me off a lot. The annoyance I convey in the comment is in no way supposed to be an attack on you and I just wanted to make sure it didn't seem like it was.
All good I think your points are all valid. I guess me messing around with a challenge and making content sort of gets me past the issues.
@@BethesdaQuester fair. If nothing else I’m glad you’re able to enjoy the game. At the end of the day, whether or not the person playing it likes it is all that matters. I’ll probably just wait another year or so before I try it again in hopes it’ll have a lot more patches and updates by then.
Props to you man! Wish i was there
It's my favorite game. I really liked your point how it's kind of good at a bunch of game mechanics but other games that focus on that game mechanic are better at it. For example, I'm a CoD gamer, and obviously the game mechanics are way better when it comes to customization in CoD.
But I just love how this game makes me want to be an astronaut. It's a very mature game, not in the sense of violence and such but it feels way more realistic and based in science than other sci-fi games. For example, I understand how it would be fun to land your own ship, but to me they make the size of a planet so big in scale, that if you were to actually land that ship it would take an hour to land, like it would in real life. So I don't mind a cut scene.
But yeah, to me it's my favorite game because no other game has gotten me to play 300 hours in 3 months. I've had so much fun.
Yes I thought about COD when making the video. If I want an FPS I can play COD, if I want a full space sim I can play EVE online or Elite Dangerous, if you want pure exploration maybe NMS does the trick.. if you want a bit of it all and have limited time like I do Starfield works.. for me anyways.
Bethesda had eight years, unlimited budget, a proverbial army of developers and most of their R&D provided by the modding community and what we got was a step backward in both story and engine design. I am sorry but there should be someone in Microsoft right now wondering where their money went.
I guess there are diminishing returns as you add more resources to videogame development. I would say its more of an art. I do wonder what it would have taken to be better received. I think the writing and other quirks in Starfield are shared with the other Bethesda RPGs so If it had less loading screens and you could fly your ship more seamlessly would it have been a win in your mind?
I'm glad this game worked for you! I know it really was a let down for a good chunk of the community, and I'm not an exception. But I feel like we've lost touch with the reality that what works for some may not work for others, and that 'one man's trash is another man's treasure' is an idiom meant to showcase that something's value is subjective. Too many people are declaring that Starfield is OBJECTIVELY a bad game. But it's not. I didn't like it. I don't feel like it has the value that previous Bethesda games have had, and it feels like a giant step back from Skyrim and even Fallout 4. But, it seems like the average hater is convinced that anyone who enjoys it is objectively just wrong or is being intentionally contrarian to get attention. Enjoy your treasure, my guy!
Thanks and that is exactly the point I was making! cheers
starfield: a game for tired dads with small brains
Thank you! Can't believe how suck-ass these fan boys are here.
That's actually really funny and if I ever make it that should be put on a T-shirt!
Couldn't have said it better myself :) It's not a great game, far from it but it's not a bad game either. It's been good enough though for me to get 100% completion and sink 750 hours into it. :D
i look forward to this game getting as many updates as possible and all the DLC is out before i pick up the game for myself, but the other part of my reasoning is simply because my PC is just too old and to upgrade my PC like that will take a significant amount of money that i simply don't have and i don't like wasting money like that on parts for my pc just to play a game.
good things come to those who are willing to wait.
Right on! Its all about what is fun to you. I started my Granny challenge because I felt it was a way to make things more fun for me. I am not sure if ill ever make it to 100% completion but I am having a good time with it. Thanks for the comment!
The monetary price of entry is too much for me, and for a game to just chip away at when the adult duties are done, there are better games for that. I'm personally working through my 90's back catalog, currently System Shock Enhanced.
Fair enough, I have gamepass and between me and my kids we get our money worth.
Funnily enough, a friend of mine had the exact same reaction. It's fun in short bursts, and the loudest complainers are people who have the luxury of sitting down and playing stuff for hours upon hours daily. The game definitely is flawed, but it's nowhere near as bad as the dogpiling would suggest.
I am sure I would get burnt out if I played for 8 hours a day.
I really respect your take on this. As someone with a condition and situation that allows me practically limitless time to game, I put 18 days (real world) into Starfield. I was apathetic most of the time and hated many parts of it at the worst, but was very impressed with a handful of moments. The three aspects that kept me going for over 400 hours were the planetary surveying, the leveling grind and the combat.
I finally 100%'ed (or as much one can, I suppose) Starfield a few days ago and felt like I could put it down and move on to other things.
But your video reminded that, while I don't leave disparaging comments online about games I dislike (considering I _chose_ to keep playing it), games mean different things to different people, and just because I wound up really disliking Starfield despite getting my money's worth out of it, it doesn't mean someone else can't find a really good time with it. I'm glad it satisfies that gaming itch for you in the limited hours you have per week.
Thanks for the comment. I respect you saying you wound up disliking the game after all that playtime. You probably have one of the few wholesome opinions having taking that much time to come to a decision. I think its probably going well for me simply because I play in short spurts and do not burn out.
I was very disappointed with the game but I'm glad you're enjoying it. In some ways it's the best Bethesda game, but in most ways, IMO, it's one of the worst
Thanks for the comment and I would say its not my favorite Bethesda game and it has more problems than previous games. I think that is to be expected with what they tried to do. I wish it was smaller in scope so it could have been greater in detail.
Thank you someone who isn't just mindlessly craping on every inch of starfield I feel the exact same way its a really good time for me and I have no plans to put it down until complete everything that can be completed. #itjustworks
Thanks for the comment, If I am crazy at least I am not alone!
Wait, who wanted skyrim in space?
Haha well I guess you did!
It's as if all the shills flocked to this video to leave their gushingly cringe comments about this terrible game.
that's what the internet is for: advertising
Thank you! Been a pukefest reading how much they love being cheated by Todd & Co. Pathetic.
I really liked your take. The game really isn't my cup of tea but it's refreshing to see somebody who truly understands what the game is. Everyone is blowing things out of proportion on steam and there are many videos on youtube about how starfield is literally the worst game ever, but that's really not the case. I think for some people its a fun game to turn your brain off for a while and play it. Personally, I thought it was a fun game on game pass and there are many games out there just like starfield that fill that kind of mindless gaming void.
Yep its for sure playable but I totally get when people decide to pass on it. Thanks for the comment.
Agreed, I'm having a blast with it. I think a lot of the disappointment lies within the expectations some had. Of course I was fortunate enough to never look at it like Star Citizen or No Man's Sky but without atmospheric flight, I always looked at it as more of a Mass Effect but with the ability to actually fly the Normandy.
I agree that people would probably not be as harsh if the game just appeared one day with no hype. I do follow Star Citizen (not been playing though). If they manage to pull it off it will blow Starfield away.
It’s called bad taste, lol.
your OPINION doesnt matters on the steam reviews kiddo
ps: tl;dw imagine watching 3 min of opinions
Fair enough thanks for the comment regardless
I played starfield and I liked it, but I didn't like it as much as I wanted to. The biggest reason was that it was more of a loadingfield than a starfield, and spaceflight wasn't really spaceflight!
Also some quests were just a joke and not up to date! For example, there was one quest where you had to help the constellation on their outpost "the eye" or what it was called and help them to repair it. But when you did that, you always just got a popup that described what you did, like you were playing a text adventure and stuff like this happened all the time, so I wasn't amused about that, considering I had to pay 70 Euros for this.
Nevertheless, Starfield is surely a very mixed and not very good game and it has a lot of flaws, but it's still not that bad, like the ratings on steam say, but I understand the disappointment and I partly feel the same! But there are also some really good moments, why I think that the overall rating eventually should end up in something like "mixed" and not "mostly bad", but that's surely my own opinion!
I appreciate the video, since it's not the most popular, to do a positive review on Starfield these days, and I even think that there is a negative hype that lets it spiral down so much like it recently does!
Yes that quest repairing the Eye is terrible and should never have made it into the game. Thanks for the comment and I sort of knew I would be getting some flack but again I am not trying to get anyone to play. I am just explaining why I am playing it. Making content has made it more fun for me but its far from my favorite game. Just an OK game I don't mind playing here and there.
It’s great at being a walking simulator with a lot of loading screens
Hahah yeah I have avoided most of that the way I am playing. Except for the NAT in New Atlantis.. been on that thing way too many times.
Bethesda game. It just works. Nothing else. JUST works. It can't do anything better than working. Not all the time either, it just barely works, but that's close enough really. It just works.
Haha well I am not sure we will ever know what Todd meant by "it just works" but I would say that Starfield being functional makes it not a bad game. Personal opinion is what will make it good or bad. Now if its so bugged or constantly crashing for someone than I would agree bad game but for me on xbox its been fine.
if you like it, good for you....but it's not going to change any of our minds because we don't
Thanks and that was never my intention. Just saying why I play it.
I like it too cause my opinion doesn't change when I see people online trashing or praising some game
Yeah fun and enjoyment are subjective. There are a lot of praised games I don't like at all.
@@BethesdaQuester yeah for me I don like these games :
TLOU2 , from sftware games in general , baldur's gate 3 , spiderman games , and some others .
Video games are of one the most subjective entertainments .
Me and my friends always struggle to find a game to play together that all of us like it
Amen
LMAO, looks like Betheturds got themselves a hugbox!
so its works for you cause you dont care about its story or "scope", or mechanics, basically just said its good for you cause its mid
Well I don't think I will play it for loads of hours because it lacks the replay value of games like Skyrim but for a single playthrough I don't think its that bad. I have enjoyed most of the faction quests I have done so far. It was just the first few main quests that I did not like much.
Hi Bethesda Quester. Thanks for your thoughts. Happy New Year to you and yours! Here's to a great year for Starfield and other amazing titles. Enjoy......and stay tuned! Sub'd. 🙂
Thanks a lot and a happy new year to you as well!
Totally agree! Unless your the kind of person that has to use cheats to win the game is fun
Fair point!
The game is bad. The only positive thing about Starfield is the number of memes it has brought the world. The ship building tool is cool. And…. That’s it. If it works for you, respect for freedom of choice. The rest of the world have already spoken on how garbage it is.
Respect is all I ask for, cheers
Todd Howard: "It's a bethesda game through and through"
Everyone else: "WTF? Why doesn't this play like no man's sky or destiny! And why are there no cars to explore these barren planets that Todd said were for resources only? I want to see if there's a monster at the end of this resource-only planet! They made them long so you'd pass the 2 hour refund!" (See Endymion, but honestly don't give his channel any more credit, he's a grifter).
I truly is a bethesda game with how bugged it is.
@@Zippismyeah, so I'm wondering where did people get their expectations from when Todd was flaunting the game's faults like sleeves.
It was surprising how honest he was with what Starfield is. Probably learned from past mistakes.
Obvious "Turdd" didn't learn "from past mistakes". That's a laff. Got better at conning gamers, pure and simple.@@BethesdaQuester
"Why Starfield JUST WORKS for me" - idk, because your username is BethesdaQuester? A steaming turd delivered by Bethesda would just work for you.
Hahah well yeah I guess I asked for that! I can say you will not see Redfall on this channel that turd was much to steamy for me.
@@BethesdaQuester I fell out of love regarding Bethesda a long time ago. It used to make great games, now it just makes dirt. Back in the day when I played Morrowind, it was an awesome experience, but it was all downhill from there. Younger generations praise Skyrim but that game was just a fraction, just a sliver of what Bethesda could once craft - and herein lies the issue, because without criticism, without massive rebuttal, they see no reason to change course, to do better, to return to the standard they once set.
Starfield is not a good game, but it is still better than most garbage out there.
Haha well I have found that despite most Bethesda games being flawed there are not that many games like Bethesda RPGs. Sure there are better RPGs but they are usually not first person. And there are lots of better first person games but they tend to be more linear or focused on you playing as an established character rather than being able to roleplay whoever you choose.
@@BethesdaQuester Yea, Bethesda specializes in "be whatever you want" genre.
so your whole point is it is a braindead gane that suits people who dont want anything from a game except for making a couple of hours pass by? so its a therapy game? or a praise towards nietzsches nihlism? i really dont get it. it does literally nothing. no stimulation whatsoever, just... meh
Well I probably did a bad job making my points. I guess I just don't get bothered by the issues most people have with the game. I do not walk away from my 2 hour session feeling like nothing happened. I just do one mission or part of a story and sure maybe a good chunk of that was dialog or loading screens but it doesn't really bother me. If the game was crashing or something it would bug me but it works and I find the story interesting so I am fine with it.
Copium
indeed.
I understand why this game isnt for some people. But i am still enjoying the hell out of it. Its a game that you have to make your own fun with by diving in to role playing or doing challenges, stuff like that. Which again isnt for everyone.
For sure! That is what keeps me engaged in it.
Spot on! I look forward to more of grandmas' story...
Thanks! working on more Granny videos right now!
More rant videos please!
haha with all the comments on this one I think I do need a rant round 2!
Yeah, it´s a bit like that for me as well.
I´m annoyed by this "you have to love or hate" thing. Something is either legendary good or the biggest shit ever made and you have to be on one side or the other and when you aren´t on my side - you are a liar!
I like bethesda games but don´t love them. I think they are all poorly written and staged when it comes to quests, characters and dialogues, but they all have this feature to suck you in the world for a short amount of time.
Starfield works for me because I have fun playing it. It´s that easy.
Not every game has to be a masterpiece, most games aren´t but still can be fun.
It´s not the only game I play. I love games from Rockstar, CDPR, I love Baldur´s Gate 3 and I have to say that I liked Diablo 4, too. So I don´t get the point of comparing every game while you can play what you want, even a title which costs nothing with gamepass.
It´s weird that you made this video, explaining why you like to play a game. Like saying sorry for liking something...
Yeah its just not for everyone and that should be OK.
I feel like if I had a dog holding me back from doing the gaming I wanted to do, it would be Old Yeller time 😉
lol. yikes