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Taking It To The Track: 2024+ Suzuki GSX-8R Review by TST Industries
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
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The all-new 2024+GSX-8R Suzuki is a formidable machine with tech and power to take it to the next level. But is this bike great out of the crate or will it need a few odds and ends to really make it a true track weapon? Join us at the track as Bart breaks down the pros and cons of this all-new model from Suzuki.
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I am building mine as a track weekend warrior, mainly street, but with some track days here and there. On my first track day in A mode, I found that the TC light was going crazy punching out of corners. I only ride in novice groups, so I can't really say I was going fast enough to feel the rear shock be a problem. I am curious to get some clipons on it, but I'm worried about the bodywork. I am taking it slower on my build atm, I have mostly TST products on the bike already but that's mainly cause you guys beat the rest of the market. Keep doing what you guys do! you have my support all day, any day.
If you get clip-ons with 2-3 inch risers, you should clear most of the fairings but the front upper may still need some modifications to prevent interference when turning. Obviously, on race bodywork that's not an issue to modify but chopping up your OEM bodywork may not be the route you want to go. Either way, enjoy that ride and we appreciate the support!
Im picking one of these up this friday. Got the silver one too and the akro for it. Excited for the potential of this bike and cool to hear the airbox and tune somewhat fixes the drop in power at high revs. Excited for the future of this bike
Nice video thanks!
Fascinating project, enjoyed every second 👍🏻
Thanks for the feedback and the view!
I was looking into getting a different set of clipons myself and I know spacing issues were mentioned and hear a steering stop, what clip ons would you recommend or setup for custom clipons would be best, the size needed was 50mm correct?
Thanks for all your work guys, you've done so much and made it a very viable option for track days and twins cup. Because of you, the GSX8R will become a thing of legend. Thanks again guys!
@@jordanjoestar8839 thanks for the kind words, we’re very excited about the future of this platform!
can you recommend a set of clip ons to get the same style as your test bike?
Hi Bart, sorry I'm late to this party! The 8R looks awesome, but more so with you on it!
You're quite tall so you've made complimentary changes to suit your positional & riding style.
Has TST created the fibreglass fairing & seat base? Or, are these from your suppliers?
Thanks for your professional presentation & developmental skills!
Cheers legend!
I have a GSXR-125 as a new rider. Once I complete my exam, I may consider an upgrade to this model. I love the looks and it seems comfortable to ride.
That Suzuki looks 🔥
Maybe I missed it but did you guys log lap times between mods to see how much of a difference they made ?
The mods themselves do not cause the change in lap times. Our riders are still getting in tune with this bike and not riding it to its potential. Any lap time currently can be improved with just a few more laps of experience. Once we reach equilibrium and understand how to re set up for different conditions, we can then conduct lap time analysis with different parts.
Love the content on the 8R, and truly have an unhealthy obsession for TST industries brand and products. Unfortunately, had to cave and get the new rage cycles fender eliminator kit for my 8R (although I’ve been pestering you guys about the perfectly designed 8R TST fender eliminator….chefs kiss💋) I still want the TST one but the NRC will have to do for now 😢
Your last sentence is a perfect viewpoint. You can use that other kit for now, and get ours for good once it's released. Hopefully we will have an update on that product later this month!
@@TSTindustries definitely gonna keep my eye out for when it drops.. do you happen to know if TST industries flasher relay for the 8R will work with the New Rage Cycle integrated fender? Just ordered on from TST today
@@ItsAlexR it should work without issues.
Nice work on that machine, guys! Have you guys thought about any ABS enable/disable switches? I'm leaving hardware in place in as many cases as I can so that the bike can be easily revert back to full ABS if so desired. Noticed there are two circuits with the ABS... the motor and the valve, IIRC. Can you comment on this? Everything I've purchased from you guys is top notch! Keep crushing it out there!
Turning off the ABS pump will not accomplish all I need that is corrected by removing the whole system. It will just kill off the intervention of the ABS, but not fix the response of the brakes. For these reasons we will not be pursuing a switchable system for the ABS. There are ways of shutting off the activation of the ABS effect without killing off the speed calculation, but again, that is not something that is fully beneficial so we aren't interested.
@@TSTindustries That's your preference, and I respect that. I suppose you could say the same thing about the using rearset risers. The Woodcraft LLC rearsets you offer are the real solution , but I have your risers as a temporary stopgap until I get those.
I'd like to keep the ABS system in place, make it switchable, and easily reverted if necessary. I'm sure I'm not the only one out here that wants to do it this way. I'll come up with something, but I was just hoping you guys were already on it is all.
Keep at this stuff guys. You are doing good work.
How did you remove the bolts holding the oem clip ons in place? Is there a special tool or something? I can't figure out what the bolt is let alone what tool would be needed for them
There are rubber plugs on the top bolts and locking nuts under the upper triple clamp. If you remove the rubber plugs, you can place an allen key or hex key to hold the bolt while you remove the nut from underneath.
@@TSTindustries appreciate the reply! God sends haha. What plastics did you all use or where'd you get them? I can't find custom plastics for the 8r at all but also for the clearance issue did you just cut away some of edging next to the windscreen?
What clip one did you guys put on there? I have a blue gsx8r and I’d love to do that mod. What other things related to that did y’all do?
We went with Woodcraft clip-ons, a Coremoto custom front brake line set-up and a Brembo master cylinder. Maybe we can do a quick video showing it in detail.
@@TSTindustries what sizes did you get?
Can you disclose power numbers with the new airbox?
I would prefer to have the information outlet on that topic be only one place, and that will be in the product page for that set. We have not arrived at the final version with final tune just yet so anything I write here may change and this entry would then be inaccurate. All that is comeing soon. If you check back on our website in a few weeks you should see the product page and get your info there.
Those coremoto break/clutch lines custom ordered? I had been considering looking into getting a set but never looked into them before but noticed they don't have a package already made for the 8r
This was a pretty custom set-up but we ended up using a 2015+ R1 t-line set-up for the front and bypassed the ABS. Obviously for this, we had to use clip-ons below the upper triple and we got a new master cylinder.
@@TSTindustriesI see, I was looking at potentially custom ordering the break and clutch lines on my 8r from coremoto but been rather confused with it all tbh lol. Would you happen to know how many cable for the breaks and how many for the clutch would be needed and the lengths? I've checked in manual and online but I'm either stupid or haven't came across the info
@@brightheart99 Unfortunately we do not have that information. If you're bypassing the ABS it's relatively easy but if you plan on retaining it, there are quite a few lines of different lengths and at this time, we don't have that info readily available. As for the clutch, you really shouldn't need another clutch cable unless you want to change it to a hydraulic system or a color change.
What times were you running on the phase 1 gsx8r when you were having clearance issues?
We didn't get a chance to find that out. We found clearance issues with our 8S and by the time the 8R was released, we already had our rearset risers ready.
I'm going to have to jump in on this to be more informative for you. Phase 1 did have the risers already and i still ran out of lean. We were not logging times at these session. I was hanging with another rider averaging mid 25s at this track so in that neighborhood. Once we amass more experience with this bike, and i have enough time to acclimate to what will be needed from me to ride it effectively, i predict i can run some 21s. It has been several years since i was a competitive rider so that is being taken into account here. I am way off my pace. A good and current competitive rider will likely be able to run 16s or 15s on a well set up 8R at this track.
Bart
@@TSTindustries down into the sub 1:20s! That would be absolutely hauling @$$ at Jennings on this bike! Been interested in this bike a little bit, have taken an fz09, MT09sp, and now a very well set up fz07 up to Jennings.
Been comparing this with the RS660 as future possible track builds
I swear every time I go to buy the crash kit or tank pads you guys are always sold out! Must be a popular bike, but I havent seen anyone else out there in public riding one besides myself.
How much power does that airbox kit + tune make? Looking at the dynos for these things it's clear they are begging for the top ends to get opened up. These could make 100WHP no problem with the right mods
That's kind of our sentiment on the build progress for this platform. We will be releasing official data on the airbox once we launch our product page later this Summer. We always have to remind people to look at these data points and mod on a percentage basis, not just numbers, but we were able to see 90hp with those mods on our bike.
How does this compare to the ZX4rr you guys took around the track?
The 8R has torque for dayyyys. The 4RR needs to rev out to very high RPM to access the power. The two bikes take a much different style of riding but both arwe super fun. I feel the 4 is more of an attack the track out of the box machine, while the 8R needs a bunch of help to ride the same pace out of the box. We modify all of our track going bikes heavily so ther eis no issue there, however, for a person that just wants to take a showroom bike to the track I think the 4RR would be more conducive to accomplish that goal.
@@TSTindustries thanks for your break down! I bought the zx4rr but had my eye on the 8R at the same time. Love your guys videos and parts. Next mod flash and exhaust for me! You guys also ship the fastest I’ve ever seen to Hawaii.
Good bigger brother to a n400?
Very much so! (Or Ninja 500 too)
do you prefer this or the R7?
It's a very close race, but I feel like this edges out the R7 just barely.
The bike looks so good with the clip-on. Why suzuki didn't put the clip on straight out of factory 😒
the forks are 50mm for clipons?
Yes!
@@TSTindustries Thanks for the response! You also mentioned you thought about a 200 section rear tire, would that fit on the stock rims?
@@TheItalianZone We fit a 200 on our stock rim.
@@TSTindustries Sweet! thanks for the reply, you guys are awesome and I'm spending a lot of money on your website as you continue to develop this bike 😅
@@TSTindustries would that size clip ons work on the 8s as well?
I like the comments no ABS need to feel the bike nice 👍🤩🤔
I wana know what would make someone put this much effort into the bike when you could probably get a 600 for what it costs to do all of this
Why would someone buy and build a 600 when they can just get a liter bike?
Different strokes for different folks.
@@TSTindustries true. It just seemed like a of changes contradicting what the bike was engineered for. But it looks solid
@@popdatclutch3010 Not too many but enough to make a worthy platform. If you look at MotoAmerica, this bike is really charging to the top in the twins cup. We're hoping to begin racing ours next season with the work we've done to it.
@@TSTindustries yea rocco landers is crushing it. Maybe the twins class can inspire a tuning culture like with cars
Well you guys made a different bike vs. taking a stock GSX-8R to the track. This veers towards clickbait my guys.
You cant just throw a shock for a different bike on yours.....thats fucking dumb so many variables. Ride height, weight, front rear weight bias not to mention it will be difficult to match it to the front in terms of compression and rebound
What makes you think we just haphazardly threw a shock on this bike without putting engineering behind it?
@TSTindustries seen people do some crazy shit. It was just your wording. Didn't want people in the comments to think they can just throw a random shock on a bike and have it function correctly
I can see this becoming THE supertwin of choice for racers . Looks like Suzuki are onto a real winner here for sure.
And race results are proving it as well!