a KAREN & HER KEVIN IN TRAFFIC APPEALS COURT…PART 2 of 2…
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- Опубликовано: 23 апр 2022
- An interesting traffic appeal court hearing…continued!!!
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All of this angst over a traffic infraction with no points!??!!! Pay the ticket for heaven sakes!!!
She already paid the ticket! She just wants her money back because she thinks she didn’t do anything wrong 🤣 can’t make this shit up lol
This was all her husband’s doing I believe.
I was just going to post this same comment, also she was driving me insane lol. All this for a no point ticket that I am sure she is guilty of.
Edit:Her closing argument about the road rage made me think she was driving reckless so good job on the closing.
And go to traffic court.
I bet the husband is un-bearable at home.
A woman this nervous and unable to think clearly shouldn't even be allowed to drive.
there's no way the price of that ticket was worth embarrassing yourself in court over
BUT...we all sure enjoyed watching it..lol
100% agree. Just take the ticket with a lesser charge and pay your fine and stop talking!!!
And the court's time, the judge's time, the prosecutor's time, the cop's time, or even the defendant's time. They should make people who are planning on representing themselves and have zero understanding of court procedures watch this. That said the court was super patient with her.
She’s too stupid to be embarrassed.
Lol
Lisa's "lawyering" reminds on a school kid giving an oral book report on a book they haven't read.
Omg yes! You hit the nail on the head with that one 😆
True, but she clearly has alot of anxiety, especially with her jackass of a husband telling her what to say, I can imagine he's done that their only marriage
Can recollect doing that very effectively scanning the pages in morning break. Pity she didn't have the practice when younger.
Lol omg spot on!
We’ll they make it so convoluted. People are nervous and expected to know what they can and can’t talk about and to whom and when. It’s really ridiculous and some judges are jerks.
Did she really think "Ok.. Husband.. did i do anything illegal that day?" "No" "ok.. we've proved our case" was legit testimony?????
Right?!
It's a pretty clear Dunning-Kruger situation.
She’s broken the law several times and always relied on Kevin saying it was ok.
😂😂😂😂 right like wtf
As the son of a police officer, I'm embarrassed by Kevin DeHart's behavior throughout this hearing.
Yes. He was totally inappropriate!
i was really shocked at how unprepared they were for this hearing...i expected he would have helped her really prepare a case (request dashcam, body cam, etc) much more cohesive than what occurred.
Yea right? Who said he was anyway, only he says, maybe meter maid? Seriously.
My brother is a Leo with the NYPD & I agree with you
@@lipstikknleathr My Dad did 30 with the NYPD, from the 1960s through the 1990s.
Something tells me her husband is a former police officer for a reason, and it isn’t because he was old enough to retire.
Apparently he was a cop for 30 years.More than enough years to qualify for retirement.
He looked like a very controlling husband, and I feel bad for her.. She apologized for him from the start. It is sad that even after the officer gave them a break with a no points ticket that they still went to court... twice !!!
He said he worked in law enforcement. Probably the janitor at a police station
This is a great example of why people need lawyers!
So true. If she had one then a deal would had been struck and this appeal would not had taken place (although the Officer already gave her a break). But then we wouldn't get this lesson on how NOT to appeal a case, and associated entertainment.
Yeah, but for a no-points offense, it's hardly worth paying an attorney.
And marriage counsellors.....
@@gregwessels7205 I'm not even sure what you'd plead to. In these Michigan courts, "Impeding Traffic" seems to be what people plead down to because it doesn't carry points. A non-moving violation probably doesn't save that much money, almost certainly not enough to cover the attorney fee.
For these types of minor cases I don't think that people should need a lawyer. The legal system should be accessible for all. I think the judge was very calm and helpful in trying to guide her through.
I can't believe that her husband was a 30+ yr LEO and allowed/encouraged this debacle. Did he never attend a freakin traffic court?
He probably was able to wiggle out of any infractions when he was active.
yeah, i was thinking how i'd like to see this ex cop's testimony from an old hearing...MY guess is HE would have NEVER put up with this crap
Im betting he forced her to do it.
He wanted to best the other cop himself
@@OSGCourtWatch A couple points I picked up, Yes as as experienced officer who, as SHE testified to was in the vehicle WITH her, as she was driving erratically.. Maybe HE should have gotten behind the wheel. THAT is one option. Multiple calls came in alerting the Officer as to what was heading His way. As an Officer.. if SHE wanted that pic in testimony.. her husband didn't KNOW the Rules about submitting Evidence.. Seriously?
And then the Officer gave her a break for lesser citation with no points. Maybe her Husband should have pointed that out to her as well. Judge was way too kind to this Karen
She was insulted when the officer made comments about himself?!? Really?
That was an ultimate Karen moment!! She’s the victim in someone making fun of himself 😂💀
Oh my God I just commented like this.. like my God what in the actual hell is going on. She has no grip on reality
If she was chased by someone with road rage, she probably caused it.
She was driving recklessly. Pay the ticket.
I heard “passing in the center turning lane” and was like - case closed!
Throw the book at her judge!
She was driving recklessly. The cop admitted in testimony he gave her cop husband a courtesy ticket instead of nailing her to the wall for all the reckless driving, and it wasn't good enough. He should of shook her had and let her drive away clearly
She clearly should have had a lawyer or just took the ticket. I'm pretty sure it was husband pressuring her into fighting this ticket. She is rattled the whole time. That judge was very patient through all of this. You can tell the husband's ego was hurt by this.
🙌💯 He seems very controlling 😳
@@goosebump801 Very. It's obvious she doesn't want to do it but is being pressured into it.
It’s simply frustrating when you don’t understand the legal process. She doesn’t understand how to get her photos admitted. She thinks she admitted evidence when she turned in photos. It’s sad and shouldn’t be so difficult for a layperson
@@smithdawn1 Maybe not, but then again the law is complicated, and making it simpler is not easy.
@@TrackerNeil It is complicated, but for a simple traffic violation it ought to be doable.
This woman is legit a perfect example of why not to represent yourself.
I used to work as a recorder for the social security disability hearings and whenever anyone said "Proceed without representation, I don't need one!" I was like, "oh buddy, you're going to regret this." And as the case goes on most of the time they'd interrupt not knowing what is going on and these terms that would happen where they literally thought the judge was trying to find a job for them (which was NOT what was happening) and they'd freak out a lot. "How am I supposed to know all this?" It's called THIS IS WHY YOU NEED A REPRESENTATIVE!!! A Rep would know! Then a few would literally claim that WE are the ones sabotaging their case. XD
The guy hooping and hollering was probably someone who witnessed her reckless driving and/or was a victim of it and was celebrating her getting pulled over.
ABSOLUTELY
Yup 🎉
Good God. She’s lucky the prosecuting attorney was so gracious - the rules of evidence flew out the window in this hearing. He could have objected after every breath she took.
She was just not going to give up. I’m glad the judge saw through the BS. This video along with part 1 was hilarious. She thought that because her husband was a cop that she could get out of it.
It's interesting that Belknap said testified that he gave her husband consideration as a cop and only gave her a ticket for impeding traffic that carries no points. So she already got a break.
@@ecw0647 yeah but that wasn’t good enough for the Karen
@chriswoodboogernelson2395 which is the insane part. Her ass should of had her license revoked but the cop did another cop a favour
The look on her face at the end was priceless!!!
The look on Kevin's face when the Judge says "you just cant start talking" says it all.
Talk about a crooked cop. Note that he is a "former officer", wonder why?
When people start a sentence with "honestly", the baloney begins.
Holy crap, that was a train wreck! Not sure what is worse... this appearance or the fact that these 2 have the ability to vote.
Do you really think they have the ability to vote? Or is it just legal, cuz I seriously doubt they can tie their own shoes
Worse by far than them voting is the fact that they might have reproduced.
Worse than their ability to vote? Their ability to reproduce.
She may have the RIGHT to vote. Not sure about the ABILITY🙄
@@stefanniemiec8727 kinda like her ability to remain silent. She clearly cant do that either.
How can people be this ignorant?
I am impressed that the judge helped them as much as she did.
Helped them?? Pleased tell me how, I must have missed that!?
Thanks.
@@erudite60 Kind of obvious when the judge said she couldn't accept their picture as evidence and then stated that evidence could be admitted during witness testimony. That is what prompted the husband to testify, but the wife became flustered and forgot. The judge isn't supposed to help, yet that was a pretty big assist that they then squandered. Though I think such evidence would have been objected to as was stated later.
If one is going to be ignorant, think their word counts for something, and/or not get a lawyer, they are just asking for trouble. And the couple is lucky not to have been warned or gotten a contempt of court for the things they said due to their ignorance of how court works. And that is why you get a lawyer and why they are a Karen and Kevin couple.
@@craigtucker1290
The price of the lawyer would have far exceeded Tye price of the ticket. Especially with no points.
@@cjheaford I know, which is why I am always surprised people fight things like this. I am just surprised the judge tried showing them how to help themselves despite their failure to exploit it considering the judges isn't there to do that.
I love when she starts tearing up. That judge saw right through her. She basically said the policeman lied. But she respects cops.
She got a 0 point ticket and this ingrate tries to discredit the man? It’s just disgusting but that seems about right from what I’m seeing with her.
That's the very last time any cop cuts her and her husband a break
Okay I will admit it.. I went to Google Maps and saw the signs, did the measurements and the Officer was right on the money! It made it an interactive video! Great job Officer Belknap! Great videos Old Squishy!! Oh and thats a beautiful Judge.
Judge Frushour is definitely a gorgeous specimen of the fairer sex for sure 😍😇😍
The ultimate KAREN: in her closing she states she’s a victim for the cop making fun of himself lol 😂😂😂😂
This was a trainwreck. I cannot believe people can be so thick. Bring more of these. Made my day!
Hi Donna Lynne, from SE Tx Donna Lynne.
I love the cases, too, but STUPID rally p's me off. These defendants are so ignorant, I am sick and tired of fools coming to court all emotional with their family problems and thinking the judge is just going to wave a magic wand and make it all go away. I hope the court doles out the max for these defendants. Enough is enough. And yeah, I know "I'm going to file a lawsuit now against the court" Right. Sick of ignorant people.
Anyone else wondering what her ex officer husband actually did while serving as a cop with the way he behaved at this trial?
He was completely inappropriate from the very start. How could he serve so long as a cop and have NO idea how to behave in a court situation?
Makes me fear for his actions that didn't have an authority figure right in front of him. He was combative even before he was on screen...
Yes, it looks to me like he is the driving force in this whole thing. He is why she is so flustered and cant manage to articulate her thoughts. He is behind her and feeding her with what to say and most of it she knows better than to say. In my opinion its all his power trip, no one ever questions his authority or his view, and no one calls him out and says he cant do something or that he is wrong. She appears frightened and submissive to his wishes and his beliefs. My guess now would be that she is not a bad or aggressive driver but that he didnt want to deal with traffic and was prodding her and demeaning her driving and telling her to go around cars and to stop being such a pushover. Im sure he thought he could tell the officer he was a cop and that would end it. I think the officer felt for her and tried to give her a break but excop hubby would have no part of being told he was wrong.
That being said, I did go to google maps and found this exact intersection and the signs, that are there before the intersection just as the officer had said. The dashes on the roadway do disappear after the intersection that clearly shows that 2 lanes no longer exist. However, that is not enough to alert someone unfamiliar with the area to the fact that their lane is ending and they must turn right. Which is what most of us would have done, then turned around and gotten back on track. There should be a curved line making it more clear that if you are in this lane, you are going to turn right. A warning written on the pavement just yards beforehand that this lane must turn right should be added. It's just some paint and a little time from an employee to make it more clear and to avoid this problem in the future. It could someday save someone vehicle damage and or injury or a life. Small price to pay dont you think, some paint?
As for hubby, he has broken this woman's soul and she no longer has the ability to form her own opinion or voice. It's not worth it anymore, it's easier and more peaceful to go along with him. And that hurts my heart. She clearly deserves better. I may be wrong, but I would bet my last dollar Im not. And I bet she caught hell after this was all over. I bet it was all her fault, she didnt handle the car right, the officer right, the hearing right, the appeal right and now it cost him HIS hard earned money. That is the kind of cop I see in him. I wonder if the others in this case saw the same thing?
My guess is he is butt-hurt that a 'fellow offficer' didn't let his wife off. He has enabled his wife's bad driving and sense of entitlement.
@@donnaanderson2 Sorry but common sense dictates that if you can see the lane ending and then it's gone you shouldn't keep going.
While I'm definitely not advocating for anyone to loose their life but more and more and MORE warnings are going up on everything and it's getting crazy. My garbage bags each have a warning not to close them on people, last year when my older daughter moved out I got her a toaster and it had a warning not to plug it in and put it in a bath! Where will it end? Are we going to have warnings on cracked sidewalk incase someone trips?
At some point common sense and in her case in particular years of experience have to be enough(especially given there were calls about her bad driving beforehand). We can't just wrap everyone up in bubble suits for protection.
I totally agree he is a crap head but she was the one in control of a one ton plus killing machine. It is her responsibility to drive safely weather he likes it or not or not drive at all.
I feel bad for her situation I was there myself once but if someone's life ends because he doesn't like traffic and she is driving SHE will be the one that ended their life legally when all is said and done.
@@Devils.Advocate. I agree. I don't think he looks old enough to be retired, making me wonder what he did to get himself kicked off the force
Normally he'd be on the side of the prosecutor. He probably didn't have any experience being on the defense side of things. So normally he'd just show up, say whatever the prosecutor wants him to say, and he'd be done. If anyone contradicted his testimony it wouldn't matter because the prosecutor would just get it thrown out or a jury would give his testimony greater weight because they think as an officer he has some kind of training in discerning things or having good memory (neither are true). On the defense side, with an officer testifying against you, would be quite different.
I really like the Judge. Very respectful, assertive at the right times and considerate to all concerned. I am glad there were 2 parts and was happy to see more of her.
The defendant was lucky this judge was so tolerant and level-headed. She would have been held in contempt in most courts.
I really don't think she was contemptuous of the court, I think she's just... fantastically stupid. There's no other way to say it, really. She doesn't understand how thinking works. They tell her directly 'ask a question', but she doesn't know how to direct her thoughts to form one. She has beliefs about what the hearing is about, but when she is told they are wrong, she simply becomes lost, unable to revise her own thinking because she simply doesn't know how.
Yeah, I think she's just plain stupid. No Kevin should have been held in contempt.
@@DustinRodriguez1_0 Good analysis. Yeah the previous video where she attempts to "question" the officer is painful to watch. I do think she's capable of asking a question, but I'm not entirely certain after that performance. She has stage fright as well of course and we shouldn't underestimate that. Even so, as you say, she is so inept that she really seems incapable of adjusting or thinking strategically.
I think she might have actually had a case with a good lawyer. Attempting to escape a road-rager is a decent excuse for impeding traffic. The lawyer could have asked the officer if he remembered her saying she was trying to escape a road rage incident, and why he didn't do anything about it, etc. But she never had a chance against this prosecutor or that cop quite frankly, they wiped the floor with her.
The husband 100% should be in contempt for not shutting up all trial. He was warned and kept going
That poor woman. Dragged into a situation by her husband that she was completely unprepared for.
It takes two idiots to tango though, right?
Yeah, that's exactly what it what it was. His ego was bruised because he couldn't get his wife the usual deference he gets for being an ex-cop.
This deference should be strictly illegal. Call it what you want, bribery, corruption, etc.
I agree 100%...
Agreed. He bullied her into it
How does a former "cop" not know how a court hearing goes?
I am betting he was mall security or neighborhood watch etc instead of a full fledged cop.
Or most likely corrections officer. That would explain it.
Lots of cops never see the inside of a courtroom. Sort of depends what your duties are.
Police officers typically act as witnesses in court. That doesn't require a great deal of knowledge regarding court procedures. They basically wait until they are called on and then answer whatever they are asked until they are allowed to leave. The ones that have to know and thus could be expected be to are judges and lawyers.
I don't like to cast aspersions on cops by first impression, but I am 99percent certain Mr Dihard has some "issues" on his police employment file.
Talk about a crooked cop. Note that he is a "former officer", wonder why?
😂Die-hard
So her “documentation/evidence” was not submitted properly thus not in evidence, an excellent reason to have a lawyer!!
She didn't have any. If you listen to the Judge's ruling, that photo was irrelevant to the charge. Although it seems there is a 'witness' running around out there somewhere.
@@gregwessels7205 Probably her sister, who can attest to what a gem she is. 😂
Her “evidence” was a picture of a sign that said she could go straight in the right lane. The officer has already testified that she was allowed to. She went on and on about getting this picture in evidence and it wouldn’t have changed anything.
Poor judge... I can see the pain on her face
She need TWO LAWYERS!! One for her traffic case and one for her CONTROLLING ABUSIVE HUSBAND that is pushing her to do this and obviously controls everything she does....hence the “NERVOUSNESS” and straight up FEAR she is exhibiting ☹️
You know that Kevin cop beat the shit out of his wife, kids, and dog every time he spills his beer
I love it when she says “I’m all shook up”
Yes. Discovering her sanctimonious husband’s bullying & her entitled behaviour didn’t work must have been altogether shocking for her. No wonder she was all “ shook over”.
@@doreendaykin6693 Yeah I changed it slightly to all shook up for humor. Like she was Elvis
More manipulative behavior.
In the legal profession, this is what we refer to as a train wreck. LOL
🤣🤣🤣
I LOVE how amazingly in closing arguments now a road rage incident comes up...best dramatic performance goes too...Karen!
I give her performance a B- for effort & a D+ in execution -- I've watched squirrels on bird feeders give more convincing representations of innocence! 😂
If Ms. deHart’s husband was truly a cop ( security guard or corrections officer more believable) then I doubt he ever left his switchboard desk job.
Talk about a crooked cop. Note that he is a "former officer", wonder why?
People watch a few court room tv shows and then they think they can represent themselves 😂
Omg I'm LOVING Judge Barbie❣️❣️ she isn't letting this crazy lady get away with her BS
👱♀️
I honestly didnt recognize her from seeing her a year or two ago. I’m not sure if she had anything done other than her lips, but either way she looks great. She was already beautiful and shes really enhanced that. On top of that, shes a great judge and always seems to be fair and compassionate
She was appropriately lenient, but should have been a lot more firm in her admonishments.
Frushour is unbelievably patient! She just looks so done with this case
LOL the DeHart's have absolutely no idea what they are doing!
It was clear from the start she needed a lawyer!
I mentioned before..she sure seems like an abused spouse. The way he's looking over her shoulder, constantly coaching, plus her continual apologies, sure seems like her self esteem is precarious, at best.
interesting observation...
Yeah I agree
the expressions on her face between all the acting says that all of her talking and "I'm shook" was indeed acting on order to sleaze her way out of a 0 point fine..
I wondered the same thing. Not saying it for sure. Just wondered what the dynamic between the two was that led them down this embarrassing public train wreck.
What a waste of time! That lady should pay court costs.
So, she managed to get more fines and court costs. Well played Lisa!
Geeez... Pay the freakin ticket!
I know it's constitutionally dangerous, but there is a part of me that sometimes wishes a judge had the discretion to just say, "OK, this is going nowhere, this is all obvious nonsense, this is a waste of the court's time, we all know how this is going to end up, I'm just going to call it, pay the damn fine and let's all get on with our lives." Yes, I'm sure it would put us on a slippery slope towards an Orwellian nightmare, but in a perfect world...
i agree 👍 as you said, its the slope thing... truthfully we have courts because we have so many sketchy folks that just cant stop pushing the law to the very edge...if we didnt have the numbnuts out there, we could focus on more serious crimes...
First, I was gobsmacked that this took place where I live, in Saline MI! Second, I feel badly for her. She is less of a “Karen” than she is a woman who doesn’t fully understand all of what happened and why, and also a woman whose husband is a know-it-all, only her isn’t. I think that if someone explained to her what happened, slowly and in detail, and why she actually got a break, perhaps she might come to understand what happened. Not her husband, but her.
She thought appeal just meant that she gets the ticket thrown out.
"Shooken" up? 🤔
Should have "tooken" a lawyer. 😂
That judge has the self control of a saint.
circuit court judges are crazy even keel…not much phases em cause they see some brutal cases…
"I was insulted because he made comments about himself"
Oh so you were insulted on his behalf, that's nice of you
She done it. She testified to trying to get away from another vehicle. She was driving crazy!!!
"Did I do any illegal driving that day?" "No you did not." "That about covers it all." LOL
this women is scared to death of her husband
Wow, he is such a jerk. A narcissist and so full of himself. It's gross. Love how they think they are being bullied. What a hypocrite. Yet how many people has he pulled over and forced his opinion and his justice on. What a pos. Are we supposed to just take their word for it? What a joke. They both should be held in contempt.
No points on your license. A really awesome traffic officer. An understanding patient judge. And you still pull this. It clearly proves she was trying to string the court along to have them drop the ticket. Just pay the dam ticket.
The way I shook my head while watching part 1 and 2..my neck is probably as skinny as my wrist now 🤣🤣🤣
Her nose is raised SO HIGH..bring your entitlement down lady!!!
Oh gosh..Karen can’t take a joke ABOUT SOMEONE ELSE..I was offended he made a joke about himself..seriously?!?
This is why it's a good idea to hire an attorney. This woman has no clue what she's doing.
most people could’ve followed basic instructions but she couldn’t even do that.
This is like trying to herd cats Jebus. 🙄
And how does a retired officers wife (and the retired officer for that matter) not know basics of court procedure?!
Why do you think he is retired lol?
Her husband should have known she was incapable of represesnting herself. They needed a lawyer and if that was not affordable should have just settled for the fine. Thanks to the DA for standing up for the officer. Thanks for the judge speaking nicely of the officer to.
Actually, the DA was out of line when he testified about the officer in his closing statement. But given the entirety of the proceeding, it really doesn't matter.
Oh boy! Why didn't they get a lawyer? Judging by Mrs. Dehart's bumbling performance and explanation for fighting the ticket, I think the husband was the driving force behind this. He continued to "back-seat" litigate and guide her.
If not a lawyer, why didn't he consult someone still on the force and run tt buy them? I'm sure they would have been able to explaiʼn that the ticket had no points and fighting it would be a waste of time.
This was stubborness at work. How high could the ticket have been. The couple ended up paying more than the original fine.
Monty Python said it best : "Run away! Run away! Run away!...".
The lawyer would cost more than the ticket. Losing without one still leaves them in a better position than winning with one.
@kevinarnold8634
That's a valid point.
This is why they shouldn't have fought the ticket. Grumpy grumble, pay the ticket, then go crazy deciding what to order.
Holy hell what a basket case.
Why you hire a lawyer: best evidence ever
Squishy...just a small comment regarding your typed commentary up in the corner. I LOVE that!!! Keep it up! 😁
Can't imagine being married to that beast, not even in my worst nightmare.
Is this how she has navigated life. Pout and cry everytime she doesn't get her way
They didn't mention what the fine was and the court costs were for this minor traffic infraction, but imagine putting yourself through
this stressful situation to appeal it. What a waste of everybody's time? At times I thought that this woman (Lisa) was going to have
a heart attack over this whole thing! And her "faithful" husband (Kevin) didn't help matters any. They had already paid the fine.
Forget about it, and go on with the rest of your life. "Life is too short".
they did say, possibly in part 1, and it was a measly $130
I have had people appeal my decisions on traffic trials for less than that.
Maybe she really didn’t do anything wrong that’s why she is fighting so hard. It’s the principle of the matter.
@@335m5 yea, sure
@@335m5 Her behavior and manner of interacting with the court would indicate otherwise.
Jeepers, the drama! The tears! The shaky voice! It’s a traffic violation, no one’s accusing her of being on the grassy knoll. 🙄
Thank you for injecting some much-needed humour into this Greek drama.
I'm pretty sure we know now who kidnapped (and ate?) the Lindbergh baby 😆
@@VictheChick I’m dying here 😂😂😂
I’m dying here 😂😂😂
@@somyod2u lol 😂😂
She's got my Road Rage activated now and I'm not even driving I'm standing in my kitchen.
She's hungry. She hasn't eaten in 2 hours.
Ms. Dehart was just awful -- so manipulative & contemptuous of the proceedings/instructions given to her! Judge Frushour has the patience of a saint.
No, we don't need road rage. We also don't need reckless drivers who can't even recognize their own recklessness.
Judge is tired, she’s over it . The blinking of her eyelashes say it all😂
I love your channel. This was PRICELESS! Best yet. Thank you!
Wow, thank you!
Awww is Officer Kevin upset that the judge saw right through his BS and him trying to use his badge to get his wife off of this driving recklessly charge? Like I said in Part One I feel bad for the people who's jurisdiction you serve because it's bad cops like you that tarnish good cops like Officer John Belknap.
Talk about a crooked cop. Note that he is a "former officer", wonder why?
Don’t you mean his maintenance badge? 😂
This is why a defendant should have a dash cam. But then, It probably would not have helped here in this case i would bet.
Old Squishy Gardner, you are too funny with the interjectory comments!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Beautiful judge!
Nothing like having a good laugh just before turning in for the night.
EXACTLY what I hope to deliver to folks !!!
So she was driving crazy to get away from a “road rage” incident and got caught? I doubt that she was driving within the law and she got caught doing it, she needs to accept it and move on.
I got pulled over once for running a red light. I maintained that I hadn't run the red light. In my jurisdiction at the time it would have cost me 150 plus points, so I contested it. In 30 seconds, I told the judge what they said I did, what actually happened, and what I wanted. I was out of there in 2 minutes with 25 in court fees, no fine, and no points. Sometimes, less is more.
Unless I'm missing something - she should *thank the officer for NOT issuing a citation that would add points to her driver's license AS WELL AS for putting effort in to make the incident less stressful and himself more personable, *pay the fees associated with the ticket, and *go on about her life (but mostly **STFU** 🤣 )!
People really are too entitled and ignorant these days to realize when they have it good! 😑 We've got the entire world of knowledge at our fingertips literally and still there are derelicts like this in existence
17:18 I already had my opinion on these two by this point, but when she leaned back and revealed the wall hanging behind her head……I’m dead 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
what is the crooked picture of? I cant see it clearly, it's too small on my phone. Someone else mentioned it and now Im really curious.
What is it? My little phone screen didn't pick up what you're referencing??
@@VictheChick it’s how the picture is placed
@@donnaanderson2 I don’t know what it is - it’s how it’s hanging
@@christina5kids16grands Interesting, is it all askew?
She definitely should NOT be able to have a driver license. She should never be allowed to be behind a wheel.
I have to say I’ve been pulled over by this same officer. I’m from Detroit and was working near Saline. I for one don’t like cops at all. With where I’m from they normally power play you. This officer was the nicest most friendly cop out there. Not only did he treat me with respect but he joked and I definitely was in the wrong. My plates were bad no ins and I don’t have a drivers license. He impounded my car and gave me a ride to the police office to wait for a ride. He could have put me in jail. He knew I was just going to work and want trying to make my life mad. Out of any cop I’ve ever encountered he was by far the best most reasonable and polite. This woman has some real issues!
Wow.. 🤪this couple need to go back to work or get a hobby.. They must be completely bored with each other and nothing to do. I'm sure both are horrible drivers.. When other drivers call in about the driving it not just he said she said anymore. Judge Frushour is such a pro! Enjoyed this one OldSquishyGardener!
Thanks david!
Thank you Squishy!
This was so interesting.
This woman was so unprepared and her so-called "awesome" police officer(thankfully) retired husband was making her so nervous and flustered!!
Maybe if he wasn't there she would have done a better job!!!!
Today was the day to have your evidence properly filed and submit ready to go for today!! The picture she had would have been irrelevant anyway it didn't show the entire traffic stop 🙄
She did bare minimum in this case and expected a refund of her ticket 😳, she acted clueless and even said she was clueless???
What on Earth did she expect was going to happen when the prosecutor and the officer was extremely prepared as she should have been?
It is not the Court's responsibility to gather her evidence submit it properly to the court and to the prosecution.
That is her responsibility!!
If you were going to act like a pro se attorney you could have at least had a list of questions🙄
This lady was so unorganized. My 8-year-old granddaughter would have been a better pro se in this case!
I would have given her another fine just for wasting taxpayers dollars on this frivolous ticket.
She even got a break!
I can't stand people who name drop!
I just want to say for the record, by the record and on the record, with all the proper hyphens of course that the judge made the proper appropriate decision 😁
Talk about a crooked cop. Note that he is a "former officer", wonder why?
Closing argument: your honor I didn't do my homework please give me an A
She's obviously never even seen a single courtroom TV show! Wow, what a mess.
She missed her chance to challenge the allegations of reckless driving earlier as prejudicial. There's more than one Windstar on the road, it may not have been hers.
Except the Officer watched her commit the infraction.
She was not charged for the reckless driving before hand. The reports of the reckless driving was the reason the officer was watching at that intersection, but not the reason for the ticket. The officer ticketed the driver for infractions that he saw.
This is exactly why having a lawyer would have been helpful. It’s clear Mrs. Hart didn’t listen, or couldn’t hear over her husband’s commentary. The Judge said evidence can be submitted during testimony. So she should have attempted to “submit” her evidence during her husband’s testimony, if she could have only figured out how to ask a question.
I wonder if they asked an attorney, and the attorney refused to take the case.
What a colossal waste of the court’s time
Cannot stand hearing someone say “UM” in a public setting let along a FORMAL public setting, like say a court hearing?!?
Ironically during career day in Jr HS a female police officer came & spoke to my Algebra class… She told us that when she conducted employment interviews &/or listens to presentations, the moment a they say “UM” she stops listening to them & starts counting how many times they say it.
That has ALWAYS stayed with me over the years & truly shows someone’s confidence with whatever topic they’re speaking about & their overall confidence with public speaking.
If you don’t have anything to say, SHUT UP! Don’t say “UM” just to talk & have the floor!
For the husband claiming 33 years of something with law enforcement, he certainly can’t handle himself in a courtroom. Let the person asking the question finish asking before answering.
I feel extremely bad for Ms Dehart. I don’t think that she wanted to be doing this, I feel that her husband was the one who was pushing her to fight this in court. I think his ego was hurt because when he stated he was a former cop the officer didn’t just walk away and let them go. Yet, the officer himself even stated in court he gave them a lenient charge because of that comment. I feel she was nervous and anxious because she may seriously fear her husband. Even his demeanor makes me think she has a valid reason to fear him.
Right on the nose.
I feel for her too. She has no idea how court proceedings work but she was trying her best. She was on the verge of tears the whole time and kept apologizing.
I disagree. She’s an idiot. She showed her colors when she loses her cool and asks if the officer is trying to keep her money.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
We are all guessing about the relationship. I will postulate that after 30+ years the husband has learned to not correct his Karen. Karen’s know what they want.
Oh yes...always the mysterious truck whooping and hollering as they passed her.
This is what a "I watched 1.2 episodes of Matlock" law degree will get you.
Has her husband NEVER been to court?!?! I mean has she seen Judge Judy even once?!?!
This is embarrassing & it scares me that he’s a public servant & that she has a Driver’License
Seems to be a lot of 'get a lawyer' in this crowd. Please do, so you can settle out of court and not waste the court's money and time on these Hail Mary appeals.
And all this to save a couple hundred dollars and no points on her driving record?