STUMP THE TRAFFIC COURT JUDGE? AN INTERESTING PRO SE TRAFFIC HEARING WITH A GREAT TWIST AT THE END !
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- An interesting pro se traffic court hearing with an interesting twist at the end.
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This remix is intended to provide better insight into how our courts and the folks who run them administer justice to the public they serve. Remember they have to deal with folks who are often having their worst day on a daily basis. We also hope to bring you cases with interesting legal concepts, twists and interactions you may not encounter elsewhere…
This commentary remix work constitutes a fair use of any copyrighted materials under section 107 of the US copyright law. Video was edited only to add relevant commentary and to reduce time in the hopes it will be more convenient to be viewed by more folks thereby raising public interest. All defendants are innocent until they aren’t…officially.
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That man is smart - he knows the place to argue a ticket is not on the side of the road with the officer but in court. Good job!
Totally agree. You can state your position to the officer, like the defendant did, but once the officer makes his correct or incorrect decision the only real option is to take it to court. I also believe the officer may not have been as forthcoming if the defendant had not been as composed and civil during both the stop and court session.
More people should realize the danger of such an argument
Bingo!
Fancy seeing YOU here. ☺️
@@reedo9002 hey!! Nice to see you here!!! I love OSG!!! I’m all over these channels that cover court!! ☺️☺️
The defendant does an impressive job of being patient, calmly arguing his position and not speaking out of turn. This is how you win.
That and being polite to the officer certainly helped!
Agree. Personally the issue for me if I were the judge is that the State has placed a very poorly placed and confusing traffic control sign. They need to fix it. That state is doing nothing but making it more dangerous here by clouding the issue of where and when you need to stop. The more the deputy looked at the more he realized this is the case so he felt like it wasn’t right.
@Jared Fish Unfortunately, it's not her job. The appropriate city, county or state council would be the place to argue that. They would coordinate with DOT.
tldr: ain't in her job description. call dot
I don't agree with her decision. I think the defendant argued a good case. There was no way that the officer could see if he stopped or not. The defendant did move up to see ongoing traffic. It not his fault that the trees are there obstructing his view.
We all do it to see on coming traffic! I'm pretty sure he wasn't trying to cause an accident.
What crazy state is this where the cops require stopping twice .. lol😂
It's INSANE that painting a second stop line or cutting the trees for $40 would solve it all. Instead, they put cops there for 8 hours a day at $32/hour, then admins and judges. zoom calls for hundreds of tickets. They turned that stop sign into jobs for like 24 people instead of just painting a frickin line or cutting the trees.
I mean, sure, it would prevent more people from contesting this specific citation at this specific intersection, but the cops are posted up there to catch people running the stop sign. Which people will continue to do, regardless of the trees or stop lines.
But if they did that... how would the county collect these "traffic fees" then?lolol
Where I live, there's the "reduced speed ahead" sign is that's clearly out in the open however the "speed limit" sign is hidden behind branches about 7 months of the year. Not sure how many people get tickets from it but it's been like that over 20 years now.
Too logical sir, bureaucratic tribunals primary function is the quick extortion of the publics walking cheddar by subjective interpretation of what is normally intelligent cognitive functioning of reasonable people through red tape, imaginative conjecture and good Ole boy back room deals with secret handshakes. Instead of making sense you should clearly be voting harder my friend.
Those trees are an obvious obstruction and safety hazard. Either clear some of those trees or move the stop sign forward.
The problem is that the trees maybe, and probably are, on private property. The stop line and sign placement serve their purpose. Coming to a full stop gives a driver time to make a full assessment about the traffic while moving forward. I would have check, but I believe the language about proceeding slowly after stop until the road is visible, is in my states statute.
But then the city can't keep making easy money by setting this whole thing up. Park a cop at an obstructed stop sign, then try to apply a weird statute (that no normal person could easily interpret) where you have to stop at _both_ the sign then again right after it. What a racket.
I agree with you, Laura 100%.
I'm on board with you, Laura. Stop signs where I live (in town) are blocked by trees, branches, etc. I've seen the city prune these back. I have a feeling that it's only done when a citizen has called to complain.
Totally agree and the police officers know this as this is where they sit and wait for drivers to give out tickets they should be getting those trees seen to
Being a Kansan, I can testify that those damned cedars grow fast and when intersections are all shiny and new and the stop signs installed, everything is wide open. A year or so later a cedar of the size shown in the photos often blocks views. This is a common problem in the rural areas. I usually have to stop twice, because there are often cedars blocking both directions. I love Judge Webster. I was not aware of her until the pandemic. Thank you, Old Squishy, you are kind of a big deal.
I'd bet that another complication is there are published standards about where a stop line is to be located relative to the traffic lanes that cross in front of it. Dollars to donuts the stop line had to be exactly there, no matter the specific conditions that would dictate a different location. Discretion is needed on the part of the enforcement agency, and also on the part of the court.
This defendant did a great job. I think he stopped and proceeded cautiously.
Not giving this judge any credit for taking the cops word even in the face the photographic evidence. Even when she had to reverse her decision, she looked for a different violation to pin on the guy, which is nuts because that's not the ticket was for. Major Kudos to the conscientious officer!
This is an excellent example of why everyone should have a dashcam
That deputy could have just been quiet but he has integrity and spoke up…respect
It seems this junction has problems and lo and behold this is exactly where the officer stocks out drivers now this officer knows this problem so why doesn't he try to get something done about it instead of handing out tickets poor policing
Stop it. This cop has no integrity. He was giving bad tickets to people for who knows how long. He had to speak up because he would have been in deep shit otherwise.
@@joanferris3539 I suspect that losing the case will be more then enough impetus for the officer to recommend that the relevant highway authority move the stop sign & line. 👍😒
They don't want to fix the intersection because it obviously generates great easy fraudulent revenue. I have ZERO RESPECT for this dirty cop.
@@MrPaige222 it's not the cop's job to clear the intersection of obstructed view! Need to talk to the highway dept.!
Holy shit I was screaming at the end before the officer spoke up.
Can't believe the officer admitted to pulling over two more people THAT DAY and then had the judge tell him that I wasnt a legitimate stop!!!
I was too. She never asked if the officer was, in fact, positioned where Mr. Hood indicated he was. That alone would have cleared up whether he would have been able to see if anyone stopped appropriately.
Then there was her nonsense about him not being sure whether he stopped or not and the officer being clear in his testimony. Of course the officer is clear in his testimony; I'm pretty sure they review the report before coming to court because I don't believe they actually remember every detail of every incident, especially since court dates are weeks out from when the ticket was written.
In top of that, people commonly forget if they did something, especially if it's routine behavior. Many times I'll wonder whether I took my meds because I may have a distinct memory of putting the pills in my hand, but was that yesterday or today? And when someone tells you that you did or didn't do or say something, it's common to question it. That's what happens in gaslighting.
Yes, good on the cop for clarifying his testimony. And I'm glad that she reversed her decision, but her initial ruling was a perfect example of the stereotypical "judges side with the cops, regardless" perception that many people have.
@@PitifulDelay not to mention that being stopped and given a ticket is a pretty big indicator that "maybe I did do something wrong" even if you believe you didn't at the time, that will absolutely throw doubt into anyone's mind! But obviously we have to assume that a cop writing 10 of these tickets a day and a normal civilian have the same mindset :(
She finally did ask @41:48
I suffer from same issue w/taking meds daily...lol@@PitifulDelay
I initially thought the deputy should be applauded for admitting he couldn't see. But he didn't do it until the defendant said he was appealing. It would have come out then and then he'd be in trouble. It would have been commendable if he did it before she ruled or before the defendant said he was appealing. Hmm 😒
interesting take on it!
100% agreed
The system is rigged hard against pro se people. The defendant was truthful on everything yet almost lost. You have to fight hard for justice. A good defense atty would have grilled the cop hard on being able to see things or not.
It speaks volumes that the prosecutor didn’t introduce a photo of the intersection for reference. ••• *Judge Middleton would have thrown out the case because he’s driven the road 50 times and knows part of the problem is Old Man Rutherford refused to cut down the trees on his property which blocked visibility of the officer to see the sign.*
lmao…old man Rutherford 🤣🤣🤣.
Lol he sure knows everyone and everything that goes on in town 😂
😅
I can't help but notice how the judge initially believed that the police officer COULD see the stop sign, when the pictures clearly show that was impossible... Why do judges believe cops in spite of photographic evidence? ... and why would a judge hearing traffic violations not understand the Stop sign language inside out, backwards and forwards?
I agree and Judge even said after the initial ruling that there wasn't an objection to the photo evidence, which she should've been able to note there was no way the officer could have seen the stop.
Great respect to the cop for speaking up to clarify his testimony after hearing what the judge said about her understanding of his testimony.
The reason he spoke up and corrected his lying to this court was because he had no choice once the defendant stated that he would appeal the case. Had he not come clean in this proceeding he knew that he would be roasted by the appeals court judge which would result in a mandatory reprimand and possible demotion.
@@russellmcelveny1014 I agree. I'm sure there were many other victims of his poor understanding of the law. The prosecutor wasn't any better.
Yeah, no. This cop is a scumbag. He makes a living hiding behind a bush and writing bogus tickets, and he finally got caught. Of course, he's gonna face no counsequences whatsoever.
@@russellmcelveny1014 Well, I wouldn't say he lied. That mistake was on the judge's part (aside from his own mistake of misunderstanding the statute). She's the one that extrapolated an assumption that he simply had not made in his testimony.
@@stephanbranczyk8306 Agreed. The officer's original testimony was not clear (at least to me) about whether the defendant stopped at the stop sign/line. The officer kept saying that the defendant violated the statute (apparently based on the officer's misunderstanding of the statute).
I wish the defendant had asked the officer, during cross examination, whether he could see the stop sign and line, and whether he was able to see whether a vehicle had stopped at the line. I'll bet the officer would have answered "No."
Honest Trooper, Fair Judge, Prosecutor grudgingly agrees with the Judges interpretation, Defendant wins without any complicating Sovcit word salad. Well done all around.
This judge is the only one I would want to go in front of. Even if I was wrong, I just wouldn't lie to her. That wouldn't work
@@Hope8x28I think Abby was saying an honest trooper in the sense that he could have let the judge continue with the guilty verdict but he clarifies himself and corrects the judges interpretation of his words which I’ll be honest were a bit fishy. Your point still stands with whatever he says in the rest of the similar cases he crates with tickets he’s given in the same spot since we don’t know how he testifies in those but in this specific case he was honest in the end.
No respect to the judge or prosecutor at all,
First, the judge literally wanted to believe the officer so bad she made his testimony something he didn’t even say. To the point he spoke up. This judge was seeing the man guilty and not innocent until proven guilty. She had the burden on the defendant the whole time.
Secondly, the prosecutor is the most shady of them all. Even after his officer realizes there’s a problem instead of dropping the charges he was still arguing the statue said something it clearly doesn’t just to get his conviction. The statue clearly worded and he tried to make it say something else. Totally wrong.
Now the officer is the real champion. The other 2 get no respect because both even after clear evidence was still trying to convict this man, they both was trying to find a way to find this man guilty.
The only reason justice prevailed here is the honesty of the cop. The defendant told the truth and still lost. The system will always favor the state when its your word vs theirs. Imagine how many times this has happened due to dishonest cops or cops that just sit there silent because they don't care about the truth.
An honest officer overrode the court's propensity to take the unsupported word of an officer and easily disregard photographic evidence to the contrary. The defendant was very lucky to get that officer. I wonder how many others got a ticket on their record who should not have.
Not lucky because most cop cars have dashcams' so it would have been his undoing if he knew it recorded where he was parked but in the end he did say he misspoke as if he actually saw him not stop at the stop sign!
How can she rule against the defendant when you clearly can't see with the trees in the way and the officer sounding like a moron? This one aggravated me today for some reason
Yeah she was ready to accept the officers testimony over the laws of physics. I didn't know police were that trustworthy!
That's my issue. Rhe pics shoe that there was no way he could see the stop sign. She may be great but she is not as fair as people claim
@@erichwagenknecht9370 agreed 💯
Same feelings here! Even more so, APA Regier was fighting hard on this one; he seemed to take it almost personally. I think the deputy spoke up at the end only because the defendant's appeal may have opened a whole new can of worms!
OSG, you did it again 😃👍🏼👏🏼! What an outstanding hearing - a case about an issue that nearly EVERYONE can relate to, wherein ALL parties not only followed courtroom decorum and procedure, but presented excellent arguments calmly & succinctly, AND with the "hero" chalking one up for the good guys!! It could scarcely be better! Thanks for this gem!
The best part? Fairness, respect, and acknowledgement of said behavior when it was due. Brilliant!
What a change from so many cases we see. … *Although OSG finds a lot of ALL KINDS of court cases for us* ❣️
@@iamskippy So true, on both counts👍🏼. This hearing was such a pleasant "curveball" to witness, amongst the crazy-insane hearings we get to watch (and enjoy thoroughly 😁) thanks to Squishy. He's the REAL hero, here, IMHO!
I appreciate your use of the word succinctly.
AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME! This is what it looks and sounds like, when adults communicate and treat each other with RESPECT!❤️
This gives me some hope in the judicial system. The judge really summed it up well for all party’s at the end
She made the right decision in the end. That prosecutor did a horrible job making his case clear or consistent. You could tell that he was so upset at the end when he wouldn’t say anything at all 😂
The prosecutor tried REAL hard to win, even to go as far as try and "reword" the law!
I wonder how many other people have got ticketed for the same thing?
And… Why doesn’t the officer park where he sees the stop sign ❓
They need to put up a sign that says caution, stop ahead. Then they need to move the stop sign to where you can see past the trees. I've seen it done before. It isn't that difficult. The county might lose ticket revenue, but it would be safer.
agreed!
Old Squishy, I wanted to thank you. Some people may find this type of case boring to watch. I however, have discovered something new about myself now that I’m in my (early, let’s make that clear) 50’s! I find myself absolutely engrossed in the small details of the law! I don’t know how old you are but finding out something new about myself is exciting because it doesn’t happen very often anymore. I was wishing I had their, “Rules of the Road” book so I could read right along with them, sentence by sentence. 😂 So I did have to stop and thank you for offering a wide range of cases to watch. It brought me joy today and a new discovery. I truly appreciate you!
I am 30 years old and I am a recovering addict and I have to agree with you about discovering new things about yourself. I absolutely love reading this comment and it made my day
This lawyer REALLY wanted to win this case!! I mean... wow
He ALWAYS wants win and likes the maximum penalties
I applaud him at the end though, not objecting or arguing after the officer clarified what he did and did not see and the Judge read the stop sign rules again.
Judge Webster shouldn't have found him responsible in the first place, prosecution DID NOT meet their burden by any means at all. Claiming you can clearly see an obstructed stop sign from hundreds of feet away in a rear view mirror and can confirm that the person didn't stop is nonsense.
Glad she changed her mind when the officer essentially admitted it at the end, but that only proves she wasn't listening in the first place. She needs to pay more attention, that's literally her job.
I agree with most of your statement, except for the "not listening" part. She seemed to be listening to me but, instead of being impartial - as a judge is supposed to be - she appeared to rely heavily on the deputy's testimony as well as the prosecutor's misinterpretation of the statute. Her actions here gave me a perspective on Judge Webster that I hadn't seen (or perhaps just not noticed) in other cases.
I don't know the ending yet, but I've never ever heard Regier stumble over his words & stuttering like this! He knows the officer was wrong as hell 😆
The fact that he STFU at the end when Judge Webster asked for his opinion is all you need to know... He's a smart guy and would have made a valid argument if he had one, but knew his case was lost.
@jayschafer1760 oh I think he's a great prosecutor tbh. I was just overly excited about this lmao I Commented 3 separate times before I watched the entire thing 😆😆
Prosecutor was wrong. His lack of preparation (not understanding the law, not having pics) and lack of direct concise communication muddied the water and wasted the courts time.
@@jayschafer1760 I'm sorry, no "smart guy" would not understand that most simple of simple statutes, he's a criminal and should be facing perjury charges
@@chadcallander he isn't going to do ask that for a stop sign ticket
hats off to the awesome officer he is a truthful and awesome person. he is a credit to the profession of law enforcement. I pray that he has a long, prosperous and safe journey to his retirement!
The prosecutor is classic case of seeking a conviction at any cost without a hint of empathy or critical thinking. Thank goodness for the officer & judge. Well done!
Kudos to the deputy for stepping up and clarifying his testimony. After they read the actual statute it was clear to me that the defendant was not guilty and I was a bit surprised by the judges decision. I was laughing out loud at the prosecutor’s silence when the judge reconsidered.
It was absurd, she directly asked him questions and he just sat there like a deer in the headlights 😆
I'm so happy to see that the Officer spoke up even if it was going to hurt his case. Sometimes we see people fight for a Win instead of fighting for the Truth. And i applaud the Officer for speaking up because he wanted to get to the Truth of the matter so that he can be fair in his duties for safely driving. Well done.
I can not for the life of me why Jregier is trying to hammer everyone he prosecutes. I understand he is a young prosecutor but to try and throw the hammer at everyone he comes into contact is ridiculous. I don't think the prosecutor took time to look at the evidence nor do I think he asked to see it before this. He was not ready for this defendant.
He probably rightly based on what most happened assumed that courts always take the testimony of police over even photographic evidence here. His issue here was he got an honest officer.
He was definitely a snitch in high school. He just looks like a prick
He's an idiot, stumbling his nonsense about the trees, that statute is clear as day, he was happy to see the defendant punished for something he didn't do. In fact the defendant has been punished either way as he'll no doubt have lost hours and hours to research his case. The prosecutor should be in jail in my eyes, lose his job at least
He went hard here, doubling down on a statute that didn't apply in this case.
@@Sara-tf8rljail are you serious
The states attorney looked pissed at the end after the officer cleared things up and lost his case, lol. But I'm glad the driver was well prepared and won his case. It's not often civilians win these cases, in my opinion, because the judge usually takes the officers' word on these things. Thankfully, he was prepared and worded things correctly. Thank you, squishy. I appreciate your hard work to share this cut and edited content for your followers.
She WAS taking the word of the officer -- that is why he lost. She changed her decision only after the officer reinterpreted his testimony for her and she then examined the law more closely.
For God's sake, the trees are in way. Analyze it to death!
The problem here is the stop point is way too far from the roads intersecting... in Australia our stop lines are at the point the roads cross. Either way if I ever encounter such an intersection I’ll be stopping at the line & the junction cos on my day in court I wouldn’t get a Judge Webster 💯
Awesome work OSG!!!
Very interesting court case!! I really like the way Judge Webster looks at it with detail. The pictures of the location were very helpful for the defendant!
Wow the cop has been pulling people over without knowing the law itself. The prosecutor just kept on and on. The cop is awesome because he did admit what he did and the judge is awesome too by going over the law multiple times to make sure the dependent is found not guilty.
Not so awesome that he would actually read the damn law he's pulling people over for multiple times a day apparently!
Spoiler alert lol
@@amyc9155 I try not to read the comments before I watch the video lol
@@Savecali me too but I get too curious haha
@@amyc9155 me too 🤣🤣🤣
Love this officer’S honesty. I truly believe the driver’S respect to the officer played a major role to his favor.
This was refreshing! Everyone presented their case without getting emotional. The judge took great care in considering the law. The honest corrections. It's all around enjoyable to watch. I agree with her decision and I hope the sign and bar were moved!
This was an awesome case. Sounds like the stop sign and line needs moved. great move by the officer. Integrity does exist
Or cut the dang bushes down!
How can they expect people to follow laws that even the experts have problems interpreting?
AMAZING! You must watch to the end. My faith in the judicial system has been restored.
Much Respect to the Officer for speaking up, but this prosecutor and his horribly done, stuttering closing argument drove me crazy 🤣
I think he looks like a youngster trying to make his way as a prosecutor....his stiff. as matter of fact demeanor, will loosen over time I imagine.
yes, haven’t seen a ton of him before. not a bad job…
it bothered me that such a learned man could have such a bad reading comprehension, regarding the statute...
What’s wrong with stuttering?
THIS was the epitome of dignity, pride, & respect- in oneself, the judge, & the law. On ALLLL sides. Wow. Just kudos to the manners & honesty all around here…such a rarity, but honestly a pleasure!
Personally, I would have brought those pictures into evidence during the cross of the officer and asked him to explain how he was able to see my car in his rear view mirror and through the trees.
He gave a ticket for something he didn't see and the judge agreed to the ticket and fines because the driver wasn't absolutely sure that he stopped where he should've. But I commend the cop for speaking out and clarifying what he didn't see. The judge was biased so when defending yourself you have to be absolutely sure of yourself and even better use a drive cam
Thank. Goodness for the honesty of that officer!
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
At least the officer is honest. How long have they been ticketing people's wrongly?
Again "OR IF NONE!" There was one, therefore he did what he was supposed to do.
I'll say it again. This prosecutor is pissing me off
Edit: thankfully, the officer is honest
Funny how quick with all that evidence she was just assuming the cop was telling the truth.
I believe this guy. No way the cop could see him stop if those pictures are correct.
He PROVES beyond a reasonable doubt the Officer was mistaken, and she finds a way to rule against him. That Deputy needs to become Sherriff tomorrow. M. Night Shamliyan could not have written this better. YO Squishy You are the best man... This was a crazy one.
Kudos to the police officer for clarifying his testimony in favor of the defendant. For those who appear in court never say "I believe", that means you are not sure.
Kudos to the cop for pulling someone over and taking them to court for nothing? That a whole other level of bootlicking, never seen it before.
No the judge should have had more doubt of the officer's claims. How the hell could that officer tell if someone stopped, though his rear view mirror, from that distance, with a tree line blocking everything? The judge should know civilians will use language like that. And it doesn't matter because the cop couldnt see anyway.
You mean the same cop that pulled two people over for the same thing today despite it being a useless stop sign ten feet before you have to stop?....... Yeah, great job officer....... Make that money off people that don't fight it, doing a real public service
Of course there are issues with that intersection. The stop sign should be closer to the intersection or the trees need to be cut down. Also, the DA should be ashamed of himself. He knew that he was wrong and yet continued to argue that he needed to stop a second time which clearly the statue doesn't say. He should have dropped the case before the judge reversed her ruling.
Can you believe the tax payers pay this man to harass law abiding citizens like this? He should be ashamed of himself.
Completely agree, it's a disgrace. I can't believe it took three of them so long to realise the defendant is unquestionably right!
I heard the defendant say this before she went with the state the first time until the officer spoke up then she changes her mind how many times has she did this just because it comes from a cop doesn't make it true
Thanks Squishy!! Second to none in the LawTube arena!!
I just love this judge and I'm glad that the officer clarified what he said. Because someone else would have not said anything
I learned a lot from this one. Words matter!! Thanks OSG!!
Slightly disagree with most of the commenters here. The end result was good but I didn't like that the judge was initially disregarding that the photos clearly showed that the officer could not tell whether someone stopped behind the line and was acting like he probably didn't stop just because he said he thought about it later.
Absolutely
Yep, the government believes other government members before it will believe citizens. It might believe your attorney since they're in the same legal club. Pro se you will get railroaded like this guy. This is why I always hire an attorney for traffic tickets. Its the only way you get level playing field.
At 17:45 the officer stated he positioned himself so he could watch the stop sign.
Any one say perjury, he changed his story because of the evidence and the threat of the appeal.
I have been in traffic court a few times and seen a lot of (other people's) cases, and I have NEVER seen ANY case take so long over something so trivial. These cases are usually decided (when they aren't pled down) within a few minutes. That said, at 36:00 I was SCREAMING at the judge that the officer NEVER said he could see the sign. If the appeals court read the transcript, this man surely would have won his appeal. Massive credit to the deputy for clearing this up.
Exactly, and the prosecutor kept repeating pointless nonsense about the trees. Stick to the statute and stop trying to prosecute innocent people
Integrity, is a beautiful thing.
But as he slowly rolled past the trees (at walking speed) to enter the intersection, he could clearly see that there was no traffic coming in either direction, right?
Just got to the pictures...There's NO WAY that officer could see whether he stopped or not
I agree with you OS, Judge Webster IS a national treasure. Thank you for sharing.
Mr regier's computer brain is misfiring and malfunctioning on that last one, you can see it 🤣
I was totally mad at first when she rolled against the defendant but I am satisfied now and I feel she did a great job after the cop clarifies his statement.
Agreed… I read the comments earlier to see that the ending was a happy ending ❣️otherwise I’d have been frustrated.
The officer was a stand up guy ! Defendant was patient and courteous..well done fellas
And the prosecutor was a nerd. LOL
This would make a great study piece in law school. From analyzing the defendant’s arguments and how he could have cross examined the officer to clarify his testimony to a whole lot more in wording his exact obligation! Great clip OSG! Ty
Me yelling at my screen: "But there is a stop line!!!" Lol. Thanks for the great content OSG!!!
I also think that the police officer wanted to cut him a break. Thus, the reason for the clarification of testimony.
Seems like the officer appreciated how pleasant the Defendant and his wife were. As well as his respectful demeanor in Court.
This was a great case to watch! 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I agree but that shouldn’t really matter. The cop and prosecutor should know the law and not pursued this ticket
Wow. Having lived in major cities my entire life, I can't imagine getting a ticket for not stopping a 2nd time when no one's coming. I guess it shows you how quiet things are in small-town Kansas!
That was totally interesting Mr. Squishy. This is why we all love your channel! You bring the great cases.
I love how Judge Webster is rocking her new glasses. She’s a great judge and doesn’t tolerate any BS.
Agree! Her glasses are great!
Agree ..great judge and honest officer..
I smirk and eye roll when people discuss *women’s fashion* in a way where we *might not* for men …. 🤔 … _Although_ if Judge #Middleton were to cut his grey locks we might for a while 🤷🏻♂️
For example: I’m sure RBG getting new glasses was a topic but if Justice Thomas changed glasses it might not even be noticed. •••• ⬅️ That said *I like Judge Webster and think she’s a j🤓y to watch* so her glasses are like the “closing credits” *but I’m here for “the movie” so to speak* … which thanks to the #HoursAndHours of time spent by #OSG *is always guaranteed to be a blockbuster❣️*
@@iamskippy We all talk about the new fashion of all judges , we like when they get new glasses a new haircut or a new headband . But for most of us the actions and handling cases is way more important
@@irenekegel5988 I agree… I thought I said as much by acknowledging Judge MIDDLETON’S *look* (his grey THOR locks) are what he’s known for … on the fringe of his character…. But it’s still noticeable about him.
And I’m pretty sure I mentioned her character is important by saying her character is the movie where as her glasses are the credits after a movie analogy. 🤷🏻♂️
Good job mr hood. And glad to see the officer being honest..cut the trees and move the stop sign forward
I am so glad she did that, I've seen several of hers and admired how calm and clear she is but I was getting upset at this one. Cheers to the Deputy who spoke up!
I'm glad the officer spoke up at the end. I guess my problem is, as ge admitted, he sits there and stops people all the time. Maybe find a new spot to sit at!?
Why? He gets plenty of tickets that most people won't contest
@@perryrush6563 well obviously he has his motives. Doesn't seem worth it to look like a fool in the end.
To the prosecutor: If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging!
and it's ok to swallow your pride and actually act in the interests of justice once and awhile.
Great showing of a honest cop.
Prosecutor is grasping at straws. I don't know the outcome yet, but I've been in situations like this often.....🤔
A fair and honest judge, love it! 👩⚖️
These stops always give me anxiety. Am I supposed to stop a second time? If so, I get honked at. If not, I'm afraid I'll get pulled over. I think cities put these stop signs so far back on purpose, knowing 99% of people won't do what the amazing Kevin Hood did.
Whew, that was close! I'm a retired cop. Before the cop spoke up to clarify the issue, I was shouting at the judge that she AND the prosecutor AND the cop had it wrong - that you have a duty to stop at the stop sign and/or crosswalk and THEN were supposed to proceed cautiously to a point where you could clearly see the traveled roadway in both directions, and THEN yield the right of way (I know it was stupid to shout at a recording but sometimes you just feel like getting it out.)
Some states, and military installations, REQUIRE a second complete stop when one can't see both lanes of travel when stopped at a stop sign or stop line. Others do not. It sounds like Kansas only requires the driver to come to a complete stop at a stop sign or a stop line, and then move to a point where he can see both ways, before yielding and/or proceeding cautiously. I suspect that, regardless of the rule, overly-cautious drivers will always stop a second time, but some drivers are confident enough that they'll look left, look right, and then look left again as they cautiously yield to traffic as they proceed into/through the intersection.
I imagine that driving in Kansas can be a little tricky for members of the military going into and out of Ft. Riley and Ft. Leavenworth, since a similar situation as this one on base would require them to completely stop twice, while off-base they'd only be required to come to a complete stop once. To avoid getting into this kind of situation, I bet most of those military members just make it a habit to come to two complete stops.
This is just great! I really appreciated everyone involved in the case. Mr Hood has my admiration and respect for the dignity and clarity with which he made his case. Deputy Ensz showed wonderful integrity to correct the judge's perception of his evidence, when he became aware that his understanding of the statute may be incorrect. Mr Regier fought the state's corner gamefully in support of the Deputy, even though the wording of the statute didn't clearly support his initial understanding of this fairly standard case. And Judge Webster is such a wonderful arbiter of the law. She works so hard and with real human empathy to avoid belittling anyone in her court. She strikes an amazing practical balance between justice and care for the people she encounters. Her ego never intrudes, even as she exerts the authority that her position sometimes demands. Bravo!
I disagree. The prosecutor continued to press a violation of a statute that clearly wasn't violated.
@@limner123 I see your point, but I think he was just playing out his role in the adversarial system. I don't think he understood the geometry of the incident and just left it for the judge. He could have withdrawn the charge earlier if he understood the defence argument.
Squish, please find more hearings with Mr. J Regier. I can't wait to lambast him some more!
The Deputy was being honest, shocker.
I love everything about this. The defendant is great, the deputy is great, and of course, the judge is amazing. Sov cits could actually learn something from this one.
You forget until you see it happen smoothly how taking turns & allowing others to speak *without rudely interrupting* is how we got our amazing system.
*But it takes just a few Darrell Brooks to implode it by introducing CHAOS & daring the judges to take drastic measures to maintain order.*
I love the Judges OSG features❣️
I’d love to know everyone’s MT RUSHMORE
Mine are
Middleton as Washington
🗣️ Judge *PRE TRIAL*
&
Simpson in the Lincoln spot
My 4th fluctuates between Webster / Bryant & a few others
It is an excellent primer for sovcitidiots, the place to argue a ticket is in court just as this man does, and does successfully, not on the side of the side of the road spewing gobbledygook, arguing like a small child, refusing to roll your windows down necessitating that the police have to smash it, take notice moors, free men, sovcitidiots, auditors all.
The deputy is not "great". He was making a living writing fraudulant tickets for who knows how long, and he got caught.
@Manatee Power unless I missed something, I didn't see anything that indicted the deputy purposefully handed out fraudulent tickets. To me, it sounded like he acknowledged that he misunderstood part of that specific law. And also admitted to the judge that he couldn't see the white line. I thought he was just trying to be honest and admit to a mistake.
@@kristenshafer2262 are you serious? He spent the whole time arguing that he had Clear view of the guy, then completely changed his story when he found out there was going to be an appeal. It was obvious that him "misunderstanding the law", was a week cover, and even if that was true, that's still pretty bad, if the majority of your job is writing tickets, then you need to know that law front and back anyway.
What, do you think this is the first time he did something like this?
Holly fark, can't believe the amount of time taken by the court on this obvious no offence. Must have been a light docket day.
"Light" lol 😆 extremely light🫨
You can blame the cop for that.
@@agoo7581 and the prosecutor
@@agoo7581 nah, cop issued the ticket to his understanding of the law. Understandable being the Judge had neither heads nor tails of the statute either. Cop realized he was in the wrong mid-way through the proceeding and did the right thing. This is on the DPA.
Good on Trooper Ensz for correcting Judges interpretation of his statement. Understandable confusion over the placement of the sign opposed to the actual point of entry on the intersecting road. People take notes from Mr. Hood, this is how you act in court if you want there to be a chance for things to go your way.
That made me angry… for a couple of minutes… other than the officer waiting until the end to semi correct himself, this is how it should be. Everyone is calm, listen to the facts and carry on.
Your right about the stop sign , stop at line and proceed with caution yield to traffic
Squishy days are the best days. Love your videos
I love how both the defendant and officer commented on how polite they both were. Its so refreshing to see court proceed the way it always should.
The deputy did the right thing by speaking up, even if he did it a bit late.
Much respect to this officer for being honest when he knew the ticket shouldn't stand as per the wording of the law. A lot of officers would have just let that slide and allowed the ticket to stick, even if they knew the judge made an error and misquoted what the officer said.
The prosecutor tried to confuse the Judge in his closing argument.
He started off saying, "this is a clear example of what not to do", the proceeds to claim he should have done exactly what the defendant claimed he did.
The defendant stopped at the stop sign. The line is literally BEHIND the stop sign, which makes it useless as a stop line. All stop lines are before stop signs everywhere I've driven.
The officer was full of it. He couldn't see him at the stop sign, he just noticed him creeping out to make the turn.
Good on the judge for catching that. The prosecution was trying way too hard to win a stop sign ticket. The defendant should win just for the sake of him going through all this trouble to fight it.
The System should not be so zealous in chasing dollars over these types of civil infractions. It hurts the Justice systems relationship with the community it is supposed to be serving.
Edit: I wrote the preceeding comment before hearing the judgement. This judge is disgusting for finding him guilty, even after acknowledging the fact there was no way the officer could have seen him at the stop sign. Whether he stopped or not, there is no credible witness to the "crime". He can't be found guilty if there is no one who seen him commit the crime.
The judge is wrong from finding him guilty to begin with. Absolutely disgusting.
Exactly! So many giving thr judge compliments when she isbjustbas bad as the cop and prosecutor. She should have grilled the cop on how he seen thr guy with the trees. The only reason tbe cop changed was he knew on appeal he would get blasted.
What a good and thorough judge, I have NEVER seen a pro se defendant win before.
He didn’t
“Nothing further from the State!” I would hope not!!
I absolutely love watching Judge Webster and Attorney Jregier as well as the deputies on stand-by in the sallyport, they make a great team. Judge Webster is a very no nonsense but also very fair. Thanks for another awesome video!!
And very respectful, even when defendants are not!
Imagine being a prosecutor and arguing for interrupting a law outside of its plain language. He thought that since this man was representing himself that he didn't understand the plain language of the law. The fact that he repeated "...if not..." over and over again as though it meant nothing just illustrates this. The plain language DOES indicate that it is up to the government to maintain the stop sign in a proper way, but instead he wants to ignore that obligation and asks the judge to find the defendant guilty of a crime that is not in the law. unbelievable.
Wow, Judge Webster has sure glammed up! New glasses, new hair, maybe even new eyebrows. Way to go, girl!
I know, she looks great & u can tell she’s happy with the results
@2:31 Imagine if he actually took out a canvas and started painting a picture lol 🎨🧑🎨
Bob Ross style with fluffy clouds ☁️
@@iamskippy lol with a little beret on 🎨🖼