Of all the beta content I watched for BFA, you are the one that was right about almost everything. You saw the issues, knew how players would react, where the content would get stale, everything. BFA literally played out like your beta content said it would. Blizzard lost out here.
Blizzards complete lack of appreciation for loyal players & influencers continues to baffle and infuriate me. The punishment doesn’t fit the crime and the only one who has disappointed me is Blizzard. They should have regular influencer summits regularly it should never have taken the game reaching such a low point for them to do this. Such a waste on their part.
The crime itself is not the objective for the punishment, its because he is an influencer and a beacon of WOW that his punishment is big, he was talking about it(the exploit)and condoned his actions live on stream and explained to everyone what he did and how to do it. thats the real problem. he keeps saying that he didnt think blizzard cared but he totally knew what he did was totally wrong. so i have no empathy for him right now. Actions have concequences and he should just take them on the chin instead of sitting here and feel selfpity and brood on his own mistakes, yes he has some good ideas but he is not that only one that has good ideas. he should just take that document and publish it and start his own discussion.
@@toychristopher You're asking the wrong question. Can someone who exploits a system that no one particularly cares about be a loyal player/fan? Yes. Preach has owned up to the fact that he shouldn't have exploited a broken system. But did this put him at an unfair advantage or hurt the enjoyment of others? No. And he understands he deserved the ban for it. But Blizzard is biting their own nose to spite their face, and this situation shows that the influencer get-together was less about making the game better, and more about free publicity for the new patch. I'm not saying Blizzard doesn't care about their game, but this situation shows me they care more about positive publicity and less about the game.
@@christianhvorslev5791 He's not stewing in self-pity though. And he's not brooding. He's apologizing. The thing he's regretful for is that these ideas couldn't be discussed with the developers openly with other MAJOR players of WoW. That's MORE useful than just publishing them online. So the issue here is not that this is a deserved punishment for Preach (that's debatable depending on the person), it's that Blizzard is biting their own nose to spite their face. They have a chance to make their game better, but they threw that away out of what I can only assume is pettiness.
Preach... You did not let me down Blizzard did all of bfa. Along with money issues the game it self us bad. I whent back to legion and tbc. You helped me be a much better player. Keep in the good work.
I agree, I don't feel let down by Preach. If anything how candid and honest he's being about all this is making me respect him even more. I never used to watch much of his content but that's changed lately. Blizzard is who let us and him down. They're the ones that should be making this video.
Nostalrius Team: Creates pirate server of Vanilla Blizz: Invite them all, let's talk! Preach: *Minor exploit* Blizz: HE WANTS OUR DESTRUCTION, BURN HIM!
Lol they only invited nostalrius to appease the very upset player base. Blizzard never took them seriously the entire time they were there. Only reason they’re doing classic servers now is because they realized they fucked up.
@@STAVROS1801 when the devs refused to communicate this problem for days and won't so much as acknowledge the problem until they bring the ban hammer down suddenly...it's Shittzard's fault
@@themarinaratrench1559 he really shouldnt have exploited it was a selfish reason because the leveling was bad? i mean it is but with what he had going on with blizz he really should have stayed away from it and know better. there were plenty of options he could have done other then exploiting to level faster. sure blizz could have said something but just because they didnt doesnt make it ok.
Massive respect from myself, Mike. You always tell it like it is, good or bad, and you only ever had the best intentions for the game's health. Keep on keeping on, man 👍
You didn't let us down, Mike. This is a monster of Blizzard's own creation. Not only should they have communicated better about the potions, but they should remove the suspensions and make right with the community. I'm a long time WoW player and a follower of yours. This is their fault.
I disagree, even though Blizzard would benefit greatly from mike being there, there is never an excuse for people to exploit any bugs and not get punished for it. If someone sees the opportunity to commit a crime and chooses to do it, they should not complain about the consequences they receive. It is impossible for blizzard to detect all the bugs in the game and coding is not as simple as people think. Everytime you add a new code, there is a chance it may fuck up another piece of code somewhere else, blizzard should have dealt with the issue right away, but that shoudn't be an excuse for everyone who used the xp bug.
@@kevinmcboyle People had asked Blizzard many times if it was a bug and they had no response, Blizzard was completely quiet on the issue until they randomly sent out these bans and removed the issue. If people are asking over and over not even sure if its a bug, why should such huge reciprocation for Preach be completely justified. Comparing this to committing a crime is completely outrageous
@@kevinmcboyle Blizzard could simply put out a message that it is a bug and exploiting it has it's consequences instead they let it brew for days and people got banned due to bandwagoning along. Honestly Blizzard could have done a better job to tell people they were aware of it cause that alone makes people understand it better and not try out that gray zone. Second that so many thousands of people are using that exp potion bug is just a sign how terrible the leveling experience is right now. Perhaps they need to look at all those scaling changes they made. Last time I played it felt more like a hurdle that I wasn't able to cross for the heritage armor I wanted cause it just felt like it took three times as long.
@@kevinmcboyle Except they were made aware of this bug for a long while. There was no communication from them acklowledging it, let along telling people not to make use of it. So, this meant that they would probably silently fix it, like they often do when they are not communicating. When this is the case people using the bug would not be punished either, unless it's in a competetive scene. Alas, the opposite was true.
Yeah, I agree, they should have put out a punishment, but I am not so sure the punishment fits the crime to this degree. They in my opinion, reduced their footing in justifying this sort of response. Especially when they didnt say anything about the problem for a few days, how hard would have been to just remove the potion entirely? They sure were quick enough to respond to some chicken dance however. With that said, I feel bad for Mike, he definitely feels the consequences of it, and still remains one of my favorite streamers/youtubers.
This is a true example of how a man should act. How a human should act.my deep respect for you got even higher. You have helped me in way you couldn't believe. I used to work on a crisis line and listening to your guides and drama time gave me morale and energy to speak to others who were trying to complete suicide. Thank you. And thank you again for being an example of integrity of how someone should act.
What he did was unacceptable. This punishment was appropriate. You NEVER NEVER NEVER stream an exploit. You never take advantage of an exploit. You report it and walk away. Period.
Not really, blizzard has plenty of good publicity on fan sites and other channels like Bellular and T&E. It’s a shame Preach made a mistake but he paid the price and we will all move on. This isn’t the end for anyone.
Quinn Meche yea no how about blizzard takes responsibility and says you know what we fucked up we knew about it and didn't say anything or fix it that's our bad how will bugs ever get found if we can't show them and we can't pressure the devs to fix it.
@IHS in your original comment you pass it off as if it was a minor thing. Now you make it out to be a big thing. So which one is it? Is it as OP said of the floor tile of c'thun room? or comparing school shooter to hitler?
I mean capping alts is incredibly boring, how are you supposed to know it's not supposed to be another gold sink for rich players. Espically considering that gold can now be bought and sold in game with real money.
I really agreed with the bit at 15 minutes about non-combatants. It's something I preach all the time. There needs to be activities and ways for non-elite players and non combat centric players to enjoy the game. Not every person in a way is a soldier, most are support figures. By making the only way to play the game combat focused, guarantees you will bleed the players who feel they "can't keep up" with other players.
Yep, I can't see this as anything else tbh. Such a minor "exploit". Yet they buried people. Welcome to the social justice left that has infested Blizzard. This is that MO down to a tee. Disagree with someone? Find any reason you can to bury them and everything they say.
@@Zandohaha Wtf does politics or social justice have to do with this situation? He got banned and uninvited for using an exploit and he's a RUclips creator and Twitch streamer from the UK who makes WoW content not a right wing political figure in the US. You and all the idiots like you who somehow find a way to inject partisan politics into everything you see are more toxic than a million blue haired femanists combined.
Stopped watching T&E's video to come watch this as soon as the notification went out. Could definitely feel your pain as you talked about this. You do great work Preach and your criticism always strikes me as constructive, it's a shame that Blizz couldn't see past the leveling exploit as I'm sure you would've provided great feedback and it's their loss in this instance. We love you Preach and I look forward to your commentary on 8.2 and beyond. Keep at it.
I love T&E but I think they're afraid to ever be too hard on Blizz. Anything they say negative is always surrounded by 1000 positives as if they're afraid to insult Blizzard and they twist many just obviously crappy things positive. They have a great show but certainly not who I'd go to for honest feedback on the state of the game.
@@scoops2 In their video they were excited about an rng proc. I have nothing against T&E, but considering classes and overall gameplay is BfA's biggest issue, I don't think they're the people to help it. Preach, someone so focused on classes and gameplay, would be the ideal person to give feedback. I guess now we're down to forum wars as our only form of feedback now... chances are they won't make classes engaging again.
T&E were ok until they started painting pink all the mistakes and fck ups by Blizz . Preacher instead provided solid criticism while being levelheaded and not bandwagoning with the hate . No surprise why the community call T&E and Bellular shills .
T&E are entertaining but started to lose any credibility with me when they started to try and paint nearly every aspect that I hate about BfA in flowery colors.. but opinions are like Buttholes as Madeseason show would say.. 'everyone has one'.. having an opinion that offers criticism isn't a bad thing.. why people rush to defend Blizzard and they quite frankly shady practices makes me wonder what their true agenda really is
Aw shit Mike, that's bloody rough mate. We all make mistakes. You made a call, it was wrong. It sucks but I guess that's life. I hope it gets better from here on out bub. Chin up.
I literally never comment on videos, but I've watched almost everything you put out for years now. Keep up the great work, mate. You didn't let us down.
No one is fighting harder for the game we love. Thank you for what you do. You’ve shown your character through all this, and I have hope that whoever at Blizzard will realize that and extend an olive branch.
I no longer play wow, finally managed to quit after 12 years, but I still follow your videos every time they come up. I am sorry that this happened to you mike, you have done much for the wow community and I hope the best for you mate.
You literally got me back into WoW back in 2013 with your positivity and passion for a game I had left behind. Without you, they wouldn't have me as a subscriber. Your constant updates and opinion pieces about the state of the game adds a tremendous amount of flavour to an otherwise (currently) dry experience, and you easily bring the most balanced and fair opinions to the forefront. Blizzard seriously don't know what they're missing out on. They shouldn't DENY you access, they should HIRE you. I literally cannot remember disagreeing with anything you've ever said about the game, and even if I did, you're reasoning is always well-thought. Keep up the great work mate. Negativity will always appear on the internet but I think I speak for all your fans when I say we're endlessly thankful for your presence in the WoW community.
He doesn't need to listen to anyone. He's got the analytics. Engagement metrics have mathematically calculated the most optimal gameplay loop. 'Fun' has been thoroughly calculated by deep heuristic algorithms. Inefficient bags of meat might THINK they know what's fun, but they don't.
Doesnt matter if its "their" loss. If he had ideas that could improve the game then its EVERYONES loss and he knows it, which is the reason he apologized. I find it fitting, even tho it is a bit heartbreaking.
This game is the sinking Titanic and the devs are rearranging the deck chairs. Preach has more to offer in his personality than Blizzard does. In the end Preach still has a career
We love your videos, man. Regardless if they're wow, or Mate, What's?.. or your super long streams at 2 am central time, lol. You're a star, regardless of what Blizz does
Thank you Mike for the years you have done for me an thousands of others. I hope that in a decade or so I will still log into your channel every week for all your content, on wow or other venues. Ty! This might be one of the deeper things I've seen posted here or any other communities about wow over my years of playing and I do appreciate it so much. Thank you again mate!
You can really see the emotion coming from Mike here, You did all you could Preach keep ya shiny head up my man. Hopefully the bridges are not to burned to be fixed
The very fact Blizzard doesn't want your feedback now because of this ridiculius exp pot issue of their own doing just shows how absolutely hopeless they are. This is a bigger loss for them than you
I think Blizzard had to do it because you can't invite someone after banning them, it sends strange messages. That said, I think banning people for leveling faster even when Blizzard themselves have actively made it so that leveling is utterly pointless is total stupidity. One has to consider the current optics of BfA, and the overall Activision | Blizzard family; it is not good
@@TheNacropolice is anything you want to talk to those people. Why did you do it? Why did someone as invested as you do it? What is the underlying issue in this situation? Instead Blizzard shoves it head so far up it's own ass it's gonna ruin itself
This is spot on. Preach was the one who identified BfA's problems on, like, day 3 of Alpha. They say they want feedback but they ban you from this event. That means they don't honestly want feedback, they want "yes men".
So the guy who 100% predicted EVERY single issue with BFA and Azerite armor especially got fucked over because of an XP potion...... decision to unsub has been more then confirmed.
@@arch126 haven't touched the sub button since Legion. It just wasn't in me to even attempt BFA. And this is another good reason in the sea of reasons not to give BFA a chance. Hell even a free weekend didn't make me want to jump back in.
@@Robin...222 Well if you rob the bank it does affect a lot of people. If you level a character faster it doesn t affect anyone, it just saves you time.
@@1speq You're absolutely right, I'm not denying and neither is Preach, but the exploit was widely known about. Everyone I saw, knew or was openly using the exploit whilst showing others how to use it. On top of that the punishment is far too harsh. But I get where you're coming from, it's just a shitty situation.
@@Dularr the ban isn't the issue. The permanent black mark & exclusion from events is. His channel & we as viewers have been fucked over because of it.
@@FaolanHart I mean, it's a pretty simple thing, you make your living on a game, you dont participate in any kind of exploit, regardless, and you surely dont live stream it to a ton of people.
It doesn't matter what blizz does at this point they lost me probably forever. i have not even the tiniest bit of interest in playing any blizzard game anymore
So long as that is based upon the quality of the content then that makes sense. If you would stop doing something you would otherwise rather being doing over the consequences dolled out to a content creator for a rules violation that seems silly.
Man you didn't let us down. If anything Blizzard let you down. If they had any idea of your character they'd know you're perfectly reasonable and want the best for the game. Them making a mountain out of a molehill at this day and age of a 13 year old game to a player that has been dedicated to the whole time is frankly absurd and borderline unacceptable. Allowances should be made, and further this issue simply should not be an issue in the first place. Its just Blizzard being completely unreasonable and I really can't fathom why this is the hill they plant their flag on.
Have to agree, seems blizzards rigid mindset regarding these things is at fault here. I quit wow a while ago but i am still keeping up with wow content hoping it will change. I cannot speak for others but you did not let me down Mike. /brofist
If they started to make exceptions It sould be a mess. Blizzard did what they had to do. They could/should have done it another way, but it wasnt wrong
@@Eroll-dw8ex it wasnt "wrong" but i still hard disagree that they had to. Its thinking like that; that has pushed away so many people from so many things like the way wow is now
If blizzard wants to pass up on feedback from one of the few people who would actually give them valuable information they're the ones who let us down. Honestly this was a petty punishment for an offense that didn't hurt anyone. Account punishment, as you alluded to, was entirely appropriate.
Whenever you and Asmongold go on Allcraft or Finalboss you both have the best insights into the REAL state of WoW and what can possibly be done. You let noone down Preach. Blizz just wants to pocket a bunch of 'content creators' to evangelize their dying husk of a game. Soggy Bollox bastards...
no preach u havnt let us down. blizzard let us down. yeah sure u did an oppsie, and u took the blame and throw urself under the buss. blizzard should have done better.
@Chef Zeff I would agree if it was a gamebreaking exploit that has a lasting effect on the community / economy, or one that was abused to grief and harass others. But it's a damn potion that helped people level up a few alts. Big deal. A 31 day ban and being ousted from an event that had been months in planning is a punishment that doesn't fit the crime -- especially when you consider Preach's longstanding clean record. It also doesn't help that Blizzard refused to respond to the flood of tweets and forum posts asking about it. Bad optics on Blizzard's behalf, and another sign of a company that doesn't know how to communicate effectively with its players.
@Chef Zeff Why is the onus on the players, and not the devs, for releasing buggy functionality? How does a player, _who does not use the internet_ , know that the code bug would be considered an exploit?
@@CosmicCleric How would a player "accidentally" separate all their potions and use them individually unless they learned from someone? People just looking for excuses to hate Blizzard at this point and it's sad. He broadcasted the exploit to an audience, of course he was going to get a stiffer penalty. Streamers need to stop thinking they're somehow above the ToS and realize they're players too. Preach seemed sincere with his apology at first but to throw the blame right back at Blizzard is sad and pathetic.
The way you handled this is one of the reasons I have followed you for years. Down to earth, honest and owning up to mistakes. More of that. Keep it up mate.
Yeah I was on that page until this video where he said nobody cared about it and they shouldn't have banned people. So I put A LOT of hours into leveling my characters fairly and casual raid loggers get to cheat their way to and get heritage armor as well? For free, and they expect to just get off and Blizzard turn a blind eye? That punishes fair players that didn't do the exploit. This is the type of delusion that comes with being a lazy raid logger, no respect for the grind an MMO should have.
Preach, I don't blame you for thinking Blizzard would not care about the faster leveling glitch, because they clearly don't care about anything that would actually make the game better. Stay strong man, your variety streams are great. This disgusting company doesn't deserve you helping their game anyway.
This is like getting a meeting with the prime minister and then having it rescinded because of a parking ticket, i will continue to watch your content and take your word over proven liars any day of the week.
Coming back to this video 2 yrs later after following Preach and his journey throughout WoW's life I can say with confidence Blizzard imo owes a percentage of their success up until now directly TO Preach. Obviously they are successful without Mike's contribution to the game but imho Preach is apart of Wow at this point....you have done amazing things and will do even greater going forward Mike and I am behind you till the end buddy💯
At least now I know that Blizzard has never cared about feedback. There's no reason you shouldn't be there. This isn't about ethics or rules, it's about a chance to make WoW the best game it can be, and Blizzard are making excuses to keep the people that need to be there the most away from it. I love Taliesin and Evitel, sure, but they are very different players from me. What am I supposed to think when the one person who I feel best represents my issues with the game is just ignored? I might be able to make excuses for Blizzard this time, as I have for years now, it this wasn't over something as petty as a few character levels. The level of importance between that and the state of the game is so ridiculous and... sigh. I love WoW. I want to come back. But holy FUCK. I can't even begin to sympathize with them at this point. Stay strong Preach, and don't take this too hard. You're one of if not the only things keeping me remotely interested in WoW right now. In my eyes, this is a total overreaction on Blizzard's part that just shows how unwilling they are to fix the way the game is and has been headed for a long while.
Blizzard: Hey guise we added a micro transaction leveling boost for the price of 4 monthly subscriptions. Also Blizzard: Oi we care about the integrity of the leveling process, get banned mate LUL ???????????????????????????????????????????? Can somebody explain this to me...
‘Exploit’: nobody cared till you got banned. Bliz visit: nobody cared till you got disinvited. I watched T&E, plus Hazel. But I tabbed to Preach for the real talk. I’ll be here for your thoughts after you’ve been on PTR. 👍
T&E live in a happiness bubble created by social engineers at Activision Blizzard. Their content is devoid of any critical look at the game, they are cheerleaders, wined an dined by smart moneypeople, and a marketing vehicle. Activision Blizzard knew that Mike can be critical, so they were relieved they could use the XP Potion bug usage as a reason to prevent him seeing 8.2 in advance.
T&E are hypocritical shills. They put on a permanent smile and cheerful attitude even in the worst of times. They couldn't stop smiling even in their video about the 800 people getting laid off. Stopped watching T&E months ago. Their content has no substance.
@@Boooooooooooooop Because when you show something "unconditional love" without any criticism and they are at fault they will never change. Because they think they are perfect as they are because they are being told that. So if you really love something and you see it doing something bad, point that out and say what they can improve, that is real love. Blizzard is a massive moneyprinting corporation it can handle criticism trust me.Latest T&E video really shows where their loyalty lies and it is not being honest with their fanbase. How they fanboyed blizzard employes was almost appalling. They are 100% being paid for their silence and praise. And obviously they are on the shill list. Their payment is being invited to events.
The real issue is the game is so broken in it's current state that even die-hard fans of the game are willing to exploit to make it more fun. You did nothing wrong. You didn't let anyone down. Blizzard is the culprit. They made a defunct expansion and now are trying to find a scapegoat for their inadequacies.
Seeing all the people going "Stop defending him, he broke DA RULES!" The problem isn't that he got punished, but that the punishment was too harsh and not proportional to the wrongdoing. If someone steals a candybar and gets a 10 year prison sentence, you wouldn't be saying "Well, they did break the law! It's completely justified!" Specially because we're talking about A VIDEOGAME and an exploit which didn't create a negative game experience for any other player. Get over yourselves and stop being so self-righteous about it.
This is absolute nonsense.. He is a very public streamer of World of Warcraft who, through his actions, promoted an exploit. That exploit can and would have had negative consequences on Blizzard, who are a company and are profit driven. If blizzard takes a loss, their employees get laid off to make up for the money loss. They restructure to try and make some money back. You state, not a negative game experience, but Blizzard runs on money, its employees need to be paid, investors need a return and this exploit would have cut directly into their income by making levelling far far easier than it was intended, resulting in less levelling services being used, meaning less income for Blizzard. He fucked up, he deserves what has happened to him.
@@dean9118 Mate, claiming that Blizzard employees will suffer if they run out of money is moot when Blizzard fires employees even when they are making bank. What's worse is that they put up those positions again shortly after as well as paid Ninja a ton of money to do a promotion. Believe you me, they couldn't give less of a shit about their employees. On top of that, most of their money comes from subscriptions and microtransactions from the in-game store, not from people leveling. And that hinges on content, not time spent leveling since it's already super fucking easy to get to end game with how much the game rushes you towards it now-days. And that's just WoW, then you take into consideration how much cash they are getting from their other franchises like Hearthstone and Overwatch, both which are franchises that are practically printing money for Blizzard. Don't defend Blizzard, they neither deserve your effort nor care about it. They are a huge, souless, mega successful company and they don't know who you or I are, and they don't give a shit about any of us. Their employees don't gain anything from your effort, and they are no safer if Blizzard is making bank than if they weren't. If Blizzard could do all of this without a single employee they would. Preach fucked up. That much is true. But he was punished harshly over something really minor because Blizzard over-reacted and was probably looking for a reason to cut ties because he wasn't praising them at every turn. At most, this was something you issued warnigs about and punished those that continued afterwards until you patched it. Not what happened here.
I'm a month late to watching this video due to me unsubscribing to Preacher for a myriad of reasons but... I'm gonna let you in on a little secret: No one made a comparison between stealing a candy bar and a 10 year prison sentence. For several reasons, one of the biggest ones is that _stealing_ has consequences based on the cost of what you stole; there would be a consequence for stealing a candy bar if you were caught on but at most, it'd be shoplifting - most commonly, it'd be a slap on the wrist and a broom shooing you out of the door. However... what if you have been let on by that same store that you are going to get to test their newest line of candy bars. Do you think it is justified in that case that _they broke the store's trust INTENTIONALLY_ and thus' a harsher punishment can be made? Except, in this case... the real punishment ontop of that slap-to-shoplifting charge also not getting to try out their newest line of candybars? Sure... this is a video game. Blizzard on the other hand is a multi-billion company that is about to release an update for one of the most influential pieces of software that has existed in the past 15 years, one that literally millions of people to this day still care about. You think _those_ might care just a _bit_ more about one of their most trusted community content-makers promoting an exploit, mocking them essentially on stream and doing this _AFTER_ having received the said invite? ... let me tell you something else... one of the reasons why I quit watching Preacher on a regular basis is because of you. Or well, folks like you. What I just said is common sense and it'll be ignored in favour of memes where crap like "If someone steals a candybar and gets a 10 year prison sentence" will be said instead of "hey, Preacher exploited the game intentionally knowing he was doing it because... others were doing it" ... Great logic. By both Preacher and yourself.
@Ryan W when you can make more than the average streamer per month please feel free to open your mouth. Until then please feel free to keep it shut. Thanks :)
@Ryan W not assuming you are jobless, but I am pretty sure that you don't make as much as the average streamer of say 700 supportive viewers, and definitely not as much as someone like Sodapoppin or Asmongold
@@mikey0193 wtf is wrong with you kid, step away from the computer and think about yourself a bit, try to grow a bit, then maybe people will enjoy talking to and hearing your opinion
@@j4kfr05t5 You call him a pre-teen shitstick and then continue on to do the exact same thing he did. That's big brain right there. You're quite short sighted and unaware of yourself it seems lol. Insult me if you want in response, I don't really care.
With all the shit going on... I am going to throw a guess in the dark but, unless your suggestions came in the form of microtransactions, I don't think they would have been implemented.
I have quit this game 4 times now and always come back because of your videos, the fact your vidoes made me even want to try BFA speaks volumes for you. I ended burning out on it and not enjoying but carried on watching your videos for the drama time to see how the game is doing etc. Seeing the way you've been treated is quite astounding, hope you all the best.
Blizzard has lost its mind. You didn’t deserve this. They knew about the problem for days and didn’t comment or stop it. It also happened in a “come back to Azeroth” promotion. It was Blizzards fault and for Gods sake, using a potion gets you banned and stops you from going to the meeting?? Damn them. Your my favorite content creator.
Blizzard isnt obliged to tell you not to use bugs or exploits thats brakes core gameplay mechanics and you can see it the 5 seconds you see it.Of course he will be banned.The rest is bad Timing andmade Blizz defencive.End of Drama
Don’t be so hard on yourself man. I quit wow well over a year now and have been on and off for years, blizzard doesn’t understand how to give wow a soul anymore. But I still watch your content regularly and that’s what I like. Not the game, but the sould you give it. Reminds me why I played it for so many years. Did you mess up? Yes. But you didn’t deserve this. To me, you are still the better person.
Mike ive been watching you for years, your always a bright light on the community since you always call it the way it is. Dont apologize its their loss, its gonna bite them in the ass in the end. Keep being yourself!
You did not let us down Mike, Blizzard did by turning their back to you. Out of all the people on the internet and content creators I would only trust you to have a constructive conversation with them to fix the game, because you have always taken the time and effort to be critical in everything related with WoW. If we knew that you went there and carried our thoughts straight to the Blizzard HQ and their developers, at least we would know that they have the community's feedback. Now we have nobody to represent us. I say nobody, because out of all the content creators I trust none of them to go for the sake of providing constructive feedback, most of them want to caress Blizzard's ears and tell them how amazing the next thing will be, even though they know how little the game has become. In the end I feel it's like politics. The most useless individuals are always the ones we get to hear in a parliament, and the ones that truly deserve and have the ideas and knowledge are left outside, because they won't contribute to any further decadence of the system in place.. You did not let us down. You represent everything that is good in the WoW community, and for that we support you, we follow you and we thank you.
Chris K there are alit if top players and theorycrafters whom are fed up with blizzard. They have tried to have very mature and constructive conversations with them many times and have been out right ignored. Blizzard didn’t even respond with a no thanks about anything just completely ignored. Now these players have given up and it shows. The game is honestly going downhill and it’s all blizzards fault. They can try to point fingers all they want and guilt trip people like preacher but even the more causal players whom haven’t seen the proof from top players are starting to see. Many didn’t believe how blizzard has gotten because it was all mainly the top players or the players who are most experienced in the game but now issues are so deep the casual base are starting to see. Just wait until they realize how deep this is, how long this has been going on and how much people have tried.
@@blackllistd5752 That's so true, it just feels sad for everyone of us who are fans of the game (even the ones complaining, do so because they want the game to be good again, except for maybe a small percentage of trolls), going on youtube and seeing videos about the state of BFA, and how most of them are completely fed up with the game...
Blizz should have treated you better. You deserve so much more that to be tossed aside for a simple mistake. We love you preach, and will help you up through the storm.
Blizzard really don't have a clue what they're doing anymore - they handled the whole situation terribly from start to finish. I'm genuinely embarrassed for them.
yeah and the fun part just as mike said: No one cared they got a few days ban because the game is not intresting enough for you to care for it, i didnt get ban but 4.ish friends of me in game got banned and they just laughed and said "so what".. Thats the state of the game. lol.
You just showed your fans and blizzard what kind of man you are, nobody can ever question your integrity,character. I took a long look at myself and I come up short of the kind of man you are. :( we all know you mean well,so don't beat yourself up ok your a good man.
If Blizzard cut you off for something so petty, then they were looking for an excuse to do so. You're often critical of the game, and the PR side of the company is tired of the current climate in being worn down by constant criticism.
I disagree. The issue lies with the bans themselves, as Mike stated, nobody cared until the bans went out. If nobody had been banned they could have just put it in the patchnotes and called it a day. Personally? Yeah I think its bs and they should have just invited him anyways, but the core issue lies with them delaying the fix for the exploit and then rolling out the bans after, and then having to uphold a public image according to the bans and their company view on the XP exploit. Keep in mind they always held the stance that the bans were justified.
Honestly? Nobody wins. I find their actions against you to be petty, mostly because your actions in using the exploit are just a symptom of issues they’ve created. I don’t like how one-sides this is.
Yes mate, exactly. If people are looking for ways to bypass the system, the system is broken. And the people who were trying to make things passable by finding exploits are the ones that should be heard the most. They are the ones that actually have a vision on how the game should be.
@@Quickb3n exactly. This is the very definition of a victimless crime. It's not like he found a wpvp exploit and was publicly (on stream) griefing other players. Ffs
Come on, it's victimless in the sense it didn't directly effect anyone but to say nobody was or that the game isn't is ridiculous and is exactly the reason that the phrase "exploit early, exploit often" came to prominence, no exploit really effects players that they get banned for in the same way. Botting doesn't effect anyone else either, also used for leveling, do you think bots should be banned? I assume a counter argument to be something like "it's automated so it's wrong" then what about something like a pilot for a mythic dungeon like some of the realm first 15s were done or for PVP. Was exploiting Ivus wrong? It didn't effect anyone else that you got loot. It's stupid to me that in the absolute best case scenario Blizzard didn't care and that somehow is a justification or that the same people scream from the rooftops about Ivus or bots or pilots then say that this banning was unjust.
Preach, been there done that in life! Sometimes you frack things up royally. It's not the poor choices we make that define us, but what we do when the dust settles that does. I feel your pain, and overall frustration with yourself in this video brother. Keep your head held high, no one is perfect and I'm sure the good folks at Blizz have skeletons in their closets that they would prefer stay buried. Yours, unfortunately is on display for the interwebs to see. Focus on staying the course and mending things at home! That's what is most important now.
Mike, you have kept me playing this game for years now and honestly taught me EVERYTHING I know about this game. They were too hard on you and honestly I have lost respect for them. I have nothing but respect for you. Everything will work itself out!
@@stevedocherty1816 OH was that the objective? to show him he's just another fish in the pond? Was that the reason Preach got the HIGHEST BAN AT 31 DAYS OVER EVERYONE ELSE? Because of "equality"?
Dont sweat it mate its their loss also this is a comapny they really dont look for any real feedback they just want people they can control and do exacly as they tell them
My main MMO is FFXIV and I've never played WoW before, but I still enjoy both your content and charisma you bring to this platform and that hasn't changed since your suspension. I don't feel let down and I'll still be looking forward to some juicy drama every Friday!
Maybe the xp potion thing was a test for the people who were going to get invited. Like a Willie Wonka deal to weed out the bad eggs>.>. Feels bad, but that 30 seconds to mars background track was very appropriate. I feel like you deserved to go, I'm still surprised you participated in the exploit. You'll get invited back in the future I bet.
@@grim86 Why do people like you elect to ignore that tons of people reached out asking blizzard if this was intentional or not, and got no response? Why is everyone ignoring that. This is just as much Blizzards fault as well, you people just choose to ignore it.
@@thorn4564 Exactly, communication would have prevented this. If they had said publicly "its an exploit, don't do it" most people wouldn't have. Meanwhile the counter is still not there.
@@FaolanHart Exactly. And I mean it fell right on top of the new races being introduced, when leveling would've mattered most. I personally didn't level any goons during all this. But I don't blame anyone who took advantage of it for exploiting.
but you see this here is what blizzard wanted. make an example out of preach, then really scare ppl out of cheating. and he is one of the good guys mind you. i wonder if they would have ever invited asmongold..
Once they actually sent out the suspensions (i got a 2 day ban for going lvl 53 to 97 in 3 hrs) they cant have him there as a matter of principal or for themselves business ethics. Thats why preach said "you shouldnt have wasted a ban wave on it" basically by making it an official mark against those customers they are then forced to follow through with what it entails. Although this is always sketchy as they basically said "we are punishing customer" whereas normally they should only be punishing the account (whiich is only OWNED by a customer). The Idea that your account caan be banned but you are free to use your same personnel information and credit card and open a new account because Preach the person can still do business but acc #3339992245 cannot.
@@jasonu3741 I don't think this is true. Healthy people and businesses can have disagreements, enforce boundaries, issue punishments, and yet still work together or be friendly afterwards. Otherwise the only suitable punishment for any crime would be permanent exile. I would say the issue is that Blizzard is hardly a healthy company and the WoW team these days do not seem to do a whole lot of acting mature, responsible, or functional.
Obviously it's not true, they could have him there for whatever reason they want just as they can and did decide not to have him there for petty reasons. Nobody can stop them from inviting someone to their personal event(Attempting so would be illegal, at least where I live) and him streaming that exploit certainly didn't cost them so much money that it was physically impossible for them to invite him. The problem with permanently exiling an influencer who keeps people playing your game is that you lose the people who only play because of that person and they're just scared and overreacting without thinking shit through. If they thought shit through they would've realized that issuing a personal punishment made it look like malicious intent against preach and alienated most people anyway.
Or people can just not cheat. The fanboys need to stop the conspiracy nonsense and blaming blizzard for other people being unable to control themselves.
I had so much burn out from Legion and BFA, I quit before Uldir ended. However, you kept me going through Legion and the beginning of BFA. I met so many good friends in that time I would've never met them without you and I still keep in contact with them even though I don't play anymore. So thank you Preach, and I still watch your vids because I love your content and respect you a lot. Keep up the good work Preach and I'll be here(quietly) cheering you on. :)
Honestly Mike, I don't think this was remotely about "receiving feedback" or "caring" to hear what the "community" opinion is. This was 100% a marketing strategy to try to get back in the good graces of the key community influencers so 8.2 is received with a better light. Why do you think they brought Taliesen there? do you really think it was because they thought that guy has a remotely insightful feedback to give? or was it because he is the biggest man-child fanboy that will create positive hype for 8.2?
I don't understand Blizzard though. First of all, the punishment itself was way too harsh for a minor screwup. And secondly, Preach is pretty much WoW's biggest influencer. By banning him from this, you give up major exposure for these new features (maybe they aren't good though^^). I for one, don't play WoW anymore since the expansion came out, but still watch Preach's videos, from time to time.
I totally agree. I trust Preach's judgement and unless he tells me that WoW is getting better/fixed, I'm not gonna try to play it again. (currently playing FFXIV and it's quite good btw xD)
@@qoralswp didn't say it was fine Said it seemed like they don't care because they left it for DAYS WITH NO COMMUNICATION!! but immediately response goes to transmogrification questions
I think the fact that Blizzard said you aren't going literally shows the state of them right now. They think they are doing the right thing but they clearly aren't.
Damn bro, you need a hug. It'll be okay my man. I've watched you for years, you've done nothing but good for this community. It's blizzard losing their way. I respect you.
You didn't let us down, mate. Honestly, this made me loose more respect for Blizzard. They try to act professional, but this just looks childish to me.
Sorry Preach that’s devastating mate and I feel your pain, keep your head up mate, we all make mistakes, and we learn, chin up, keep up the good work mate ❤️
Mike, I've watched your videos for years and even though I dont have a computer and cant play WoW anymore, continue watching. You have never let any of us down and have nothing to apologize for. Thank you for everything you do and continue to do for simply the love of the game.
Man, you can tell how passionate you are Mike. And it's hard seeing you this, not upset, but disappointed at what could of been. Sure you chose to do what you did, but like you say it doesn't matter. And I genuinely believe Blizz (and us) have lost out. But don't feel bad for it, I wouldn't say it's your fault. All the best bro.
Yes there is - his channel is dead without wow. As much as he likes to pretend he's a variety streamer he's really not. Branching out in game reviews in 2019 is pretty retarded. Especially when the MW series lost what people enjoyed about it in the first place; that is two, often very different opinions on one game in one video. Since he axed the manchild they've both been struggling.
Stop apologizing, you didn't let us down. Everyone makes mistakes and as long as you learn from your mistakes then you move on and do better in the future.
I'm not even subbed to you or watch your videos on a regular basis. But it's so clear to see that you really care about the game and just want it to be better. Honestly, you sound broken that they canceled your invite. I feel for ya man.
Can't get suspended, If you aren't subscribed... *Taps temple* Jokes aside, You do a great job. Keep truckin on man. Quite a thing that I'll watch your content for a game I've not played sense the end of Legion.
I agree, don't let Blizzard who's destroying their own game let them take you down with them. All the WoW streamers and RUclipsrs have diversified and some have seen huge success from it. I know it won't be WoW and I personally still miss it but it's not the same game I used to love and play every single day anymore.
I've been in this game for far too long, and I've followed it by far too long... I got close to quitting many times, but I always came to see your content about what is ahead, and what we really have now (as I couldn't take part in some of the content for a variety of reasons), and you always gave me a good, solid reason to stay and look forward to what was to come. I went from a sad carry raider in MC all the way to Naxx (and we couldn't even beat it), to finally get into Mythic with WoD, and that was thanks in great part to you. You own us nothing, I know you think you do, and I understand why, but you have done far more for this game and this community that you could even begin to fathom. Even though you did exploit and accept the punishment, that is because you are a fair person, for the good and for the bat, and that what makes you stand out in the middle of the content creators who handle WoW. You do what is right, and I really respect you for that. Don't feel bad, don't feel like you let us down. We know your intentions, we know you would have done everythign you planned for the game and for us if you could have. You will soon be back and enjoying the game, regardless of what Blizzard did or thinks. We are gonna be here for your take on Azshara' Eternal Palace and everything else 8.2. Stay strong, brother.
Of all the beta content I watched for BFA, you are the one that was right about almost everything. You saw the issues, knew how players would react, where the content would get stale, everything. BFA literally played out like your beta content said it would. Blizzard lost out here.
Blizzards complete lack of appreciation for loyal players & influencers continues to baffle and infuriate me.
The punishment doesn’t fit the crime and the only one who has disappointed me is Blizzard. They should have regular influencer summits regularly it should never have taken the game reaching such a low point for them to do this. Such a waste on their part.
Is it loyal to exploit?
The crime itself is not the objective for the punishment, its because he is an influencer and a beacon of WOW that his punishment is big, he was talking about it(the exploit)and condoned his actions live on stream and explained to everyone what he did and how to do it. thats the real problem. he keeps saying that he didnt think blizzard cared but he totally knew what he did was totally wrong. so i have no empathy for him right now. Actions have concequences and he should just take them on the chin instead of sitting here and feel selfpity and brood on his own mistakes, yes he has some good ideas but he is not that only one that has good ideas. he should just take that document and publish it and start his own discussion.
@@toychristopher You're asking the wrong question.
Can someone who exploits a system that no one particularly cares about be a loyal player/fan? Yes.
Preach has owned up to the fact that he shouldn't have exploited a broken system. But did this put him at an unfair advantage or hurt the enjoyment of others? No. And he understands he deserved the ban for it.
But Blizzard is biting their own nose to spite their face, and this situation shows that the influencer get-together was less about making the game better, and more about free publicity for the new patch.
I'm not saying Blizzard doesn't care about their game, but this situation shows me they care more about positive publicity and less about the game.
@@christianhvorslev5791 He's not stewing in self-pity though. And he's not brooding. He's apologizing.
The thing he's regretful for is that these ideas couldn't be discussed with the developers openly with other MAJOR players of WoW. That's MORE useful than just publishing them online.
So the issue here is not that this is a deserved punishment for Preach (that's debatable depending on the person), it's that Blizzard is biting their own nose to spite their face. They have a chance to make their game better, but they threw that away out of what I can only assume is pettiness.
Preach... You did not let me down Blizzard did all of bfa. Along with money issues the game it self us bad. I whent back to legion and tbc. You helped me be a much better player. Keep in the good work.
I agree, I don't feel let down by Preach. If anything how candid and honest he's being about all this is making me respect him even more. I never used to watch much of his content but that's changed lately. Blizzard is who let us and him down. They're the ones that should be making this video.
Nostalrius Team: Creates pirate server of Vanilla
Blizz: Invite them all, let's talk!
Preach: *Minor exploit*
Blizz: HE WANTS OUR DESTRUCTION, BURN HIM!
I mean they threatened legal action against nostalrius, inviting them to blizz was more of a reaction to the PR shitstorm that it caused.
It was not like this at all
Lol they only invited nostalrius to appease the very upset player base. Blizzard never took them seriously the entire time they were there. Only reason they’re doing classic servers now is because they realized they fucked up.
I gotta give credit to Blizzard. Never have I seen a company sabotage themselves at such a rapid pace and so consistently too!
They literally cannot go two weeks without shooting themselves in the foot right now. It's honestly kind of sad to see it happen.
So putting consequences on a very public streamer, who promoted an exploit, is now sabotaging themselves? You are kidding?
CHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHINA
@@dean9118 just wanna come back 3 years later and say yes. Look at where they are now
@@ianardell4660 Playing FFXIV? Like most of us?
Mike, pick yourself back up pal the game is the issue here as many will agree and I'll continue to watch your content
Amen brother.
no mike is right. as a major positive community figure, he should have been there. and he should not have exploited for some cheap lulz
@@STAVROS1801 when the devs refused to communicate this problem for days and won't so much as acknowledge the problem until they bring the ban hammer down suddenly...it's Shittzard's fault
@@themarinaratrench1559 he really shouldnt have exploited it was a selfish reason because the leveling was bad? i mean it is but with what he had going on with blizz he really should have stayed away from it and know better. there were plenty of options he could have done other then exploiting to level faster. sure blizz could have said something but just because they didnt doesnt make it ok.
Massive respect from myself, Mike.
You always tell it like it is, good or bad, and you only ever had the best intentions for the game's health.
Keep on keeping on, man 👍
Tell me again why this cheater deserves respect
You didn't let us down, Mike. This is a monster of Blizzard's own creation. Not only should they have communicated better about the potions, but they should remove the suspensions and make right with the community. I'm a long time WoW player and a follower of yours. This is their fault.
I disagree, even though Blizzard would benefit greatly from mike being there, there is never an excuse for people to exploit any bugs and not get punished for it. If someone sees the opportunity to commit a crime and chooses to do it, they should not complain about the consequences they receive. It is impossible for blizzard to detect all the bugs in the game and coding is not as simple as people think. Everytime you add a new code, there is a chance it may fuck up another piece of code somewhere else, blizzard should have dealt with the issue right away, but that shoudn't be an excuse for everyone who used the xp bug.
@@kevinmcboyle People had asked Blizzard many times if it was a bug and they had no response, Blizzard was completely quiet on the issue until they randomly sent out these bans and removed the issue. If people are asking over and over not even sure if its a bug, why should such huge reciprocation for Preach be completely justified. Comparing this to committing a crime is completely outrageous
@@kevinmcboyle Blizzard could simply put out a message that it is a bug and exploiting it has it's consequences instead they let it brew for days and people got banned due to bandwagoning along. Honestly Blizzard could have done a better job to tell people they were aware of it cause that alone makes people understand it better and not try out that gray zone.
Second that so many thousands of people are using that exp potion bug is just a sign how terrible the leveling experience is right now. Perhaps they need to look at all those scaling changes they made. Last time I played it felt more like a hurdle that I wasn't able to cross for the heritage armor I wanted cause it just felt like it took three times as long.
@@kevinmcboyle Except they were made aware of this bug for a long while. There was no communication from them acklowledging it, let along telling people not to make use of it. So, this meant that they would probably silently fix it, like they often do when they are not communicating. When this is the case people using the bug would not be punished either, unless it's in a competetive scene.
Alas, the opposite was true.
Yeah, I agree, they should have put out a punishment, but I am not so sure the punishment fits the crime to this degree. They in my opinion, reduced their footing in justifying this sort of response. Especially when they didnt say anything about the problem for a few days, how hard would have been to just remove the potion entirely? They sure were quick enough to respond to some chicken dance however.
With that said, I feel bad for Mike, he definitely feels the consequences of it, and still remains one of my favorite streamers/youtubers.
This is a true example of how a man should act. How a human should act.my deep respect for you got even higher.
You have helped me in way you couldn't believe. I used to work on a crisis line and listening to your guides and drama time gave me morale and energy to speak to others who were trying to complete suicide.
Thank you. And thank you again for being an example of integrity of how someone should act.
Sadly, most of the commenters here don't display the same maturity.
Keep up the good work. You are appreciated.
It's blizzards loss here. One of the most level headed wow content creator not coming to blizz is a nail on their own coffin.
What he did was unacceptable.
This punishment was appropriate.
You NEVER NEVER NEVER stream an exploit. You never take advantage of an exploit. You report it and walk away. Period.
@@LerRhann you've not really responded to his point. That isn't related to him being a great content creator
@@LerRhann was gonna post the same thing until I saw this - it could be a loss we will feel over the next few expansions without realising it
Not really, blizzard has plenty of good publicity on fan sites and other channels like Bellular and T&E. It’s a shame Preach made a mistake but he paid the price and we will all move on. This isn’t the end for anyone.
Quinn Meche yea no how about blizzard takes responsibility and says you know what we fucked up we knew about it and didn't say anything or fix it that's our bad how will bugs ever get found if we can't show them and we can't pressure the devs to fix it.
They acted like you deleted the floor between Skeram and C'thun.
@IHS he is essentially perma banned to events and the stuff that influencers get to do.
@IHS in your original comment you pass it off as if it was a minor thing. Now you make it out to be a big thing.
So which one is it? Is it as OP said of the floor tile of c'thun room? or comparing school shooter to hitler?
I mean capping alts is incredibly boring, how are you supposed to know it's not supposed to be another gold sink for rich players. Espically considering that gold can now be bought and sold in game with real money.
@IHS congratulations, you played yourself.
@IHS ooo name calling and insults, the mark of a lost argument.
I really agreed with the bit at 15 minutes about non-combatants. It's something I preach all the time. There needs to be activities and ways for non-elite players and non combat centric players to enjoy the game. Not every person in a way is a soldier, most are support figures. By making the only way to play the game combat focused, guarantees you will bleed the players who feel they "can't keep up" with other players.
Blizz was looking for an excuse to cut ties with you, and judging by the comments, many people were looking for an excuse to quit WoW.
Let them burn.
Yep, I can't see this as anything else tbh. Such a minor "exploit". Yet they buried people.
Welcome to the social justice left that has infested Blizzard. This is that MO down to a tee. Disagree with someone? Find any reason you can to bury them and everything they say.
Yeah this web browser knows what it's talking about.
@@Zandohaha Wtf does politics or social justice have to do with this situation? He got banned and uninvited for using an exploit and he's a RUclips creator and Twitch streamer from the UK who makes WoW content not a right wing political figure in the US. You and all the idiots like you who somehow find a way to inject partisan politics into everything you see are more toxic than a million blue haired femanists combined.
@@darkaero if you cant see how SJW blizzard is look no further than to their twitch chat.
@@styxzero1675 You think twitch chat is a good indication of a company's political ideology? lmfao
Stopped watching T&E's video to come watch this as soon as the notification went out. Could definitely feel your pain as you talked about this. You do great work Preach and your criticism always strikes me as constructive, it's a shame that Blizz couldn't see past the leveling exploit as I'm sure you would've provided great feedback and it's their loss in this instance.
We love you Preach and I look forward to your commentary on 8.2 and beyond. Keep at it.
I love T&E but I think they're afraid to ever be too hard on Blizz. Anything they say negative is always surrounded by 1000 positives as if they're afraid to insult Blizzard and they twist many just obviously crappy things positive. They have a great show but certainly not who I'd go to for honest feedback on the state of the game.
@@scoops2 In their video they were excited about an rng proc. I have nothing against T&E, but considering classes and overall gameplay is BfA's biggest issue, I don't think they're the people to help it. Preach, someone so focused on classes and gameplay, would be the ideal person to give feedback. I guess now we're down to forum wars as our only form of feedback now... chances are they won't make classes engaging again.
T&E were ok until they started painting pink all the mistakes and fck ups by Blizz . Preacher instead provided solid criticism while being levelheaded and not bandwagoning with the hate . No surprise why the community call T&E and Bellular shills .
T&E are entertaining but started to lose any credibility with me when they started to try and paint nearly every aspect that I hate about BfA in flowery colors.. but opinions are like Buttholes as Madeseason show would say.. 'everyone has one'.. having an opinion that offers criticism isn't a bad thing.. why people rush to defend Blizzard and they quite frankly shady practices makes me wonder what their true agenda really is
Aw shit Mike, that's bloody rough mate. We all make mistakes. You made a call, it was wrong. It sucks but I guess that's life.
I hope it gets better from here on out bub. Chin up.
Wow, what's it like to lick that much boot.
Wow Blizz is in the wrong here not Mike wtf.
I literally never comment on videos, but I've watched almost everything you put out for years now. Keep up the great work, mate. You didn't let us down.
Wrestling with WoW's dev team is not worth the drama mate. You cannot protect a game's design from the game's designers.
No one is fighting harder for the game we love. Thank you for what you do.
You’ve shown your character through all this, and I have hope that whoever at Blizzard will realize that and extend an olive branch.
I no longer play wow, finally managed to quit after 12 years, but I still follow your videos every time they come up.
I am sorry that this happened to you mike, you have done much for the wow community and I hope the best for you mate.
Still love you, Preach! Hang in there!
(By the way, I don’t even play WoW, i’m here cause I like your takes on MMOs in general, also Frama Time :D)
You literally got me back into WoW back in 2013 with your positivity and passion for a game I had left behind. Without you, they wouldn't have me as a subscriber. Your constant updates and opinion pieces about the state of the game adds a tremendous amount of flavour to an otherwise (currently) dry experience, and you easily bring the most balanced and fair opinions to the forefront. Blizzard seriously don't know what they're missing out on. They shouldn't DENY you access, they should HIRE you. I literally cannot remember disagreeing with anything you've ever said about the game, and even if I did, you're reasoning is always well-thought.
Keep up the great work mate. Negativity will always appear on the internet but I think I speak for all your fans when I say we're endlessly thankful for your presence in the WoW community.
Dictators tend to surround themselves with yes-men.
Ian doesn't want to listen to someone he thinks knows more about his game
Remember Ian is an elitest jerk
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He doesn't need to listen to anyone. He's got the analytics. Engagement metrics have mathematically calculated the most optimal gameplay loop. 'Fun' has been thoroughly calculated by deep heuristic algorithms.
Inefficient bags of meat might THINK they know what's fun, but they don't.
You did not let me down. Blizzard continues to however.
It's fine mate.
Don't think anyone here thinks there's much hope for Blizzard anyways, they have lost touch with the players a long time ago.
honestly it's their loss. You could most likely have provided some good feedback on how to improve the game and you very clearly love the game.
Loves the game so much hes willing to cheat
@@bumperxx1 white knight troll alert!!!!!
Doesnt matter if its "their" loss. If he had ideas that could improve the game then its EVERYONES loss and he knows it, which is the reason he apologized. I find it fitting, even tho it is a bit heartbreaking.
They don't care about the players
This game is the sinking Titanic and the devs are rearranging the deck chairs. Preach has more to offer in his personality than Blizzard does. In the end Preach still has a career
We love your videos, man. Regardless if they're wow, or Mate, What's?.. or your super long streams at 2 am central time, lol. You're a star, regardless of what Blizz does
Thank you Mike for the years you have done for me an thousands of others. I hope that in a decade or so I will still log into your channel every week for all your content, on wow or other venues. Ty!
This might be one of the deeper things I've seen posted here or any other communities about wow over my years of playing and I do appreciate it so much. Thank you again mate!
You can really see the emotion coming from Mike here, You did all you could Preach keep ya shiny head up my man. Hopefully the bridges are not to burned to be fixed
The very fact Blizzard doesn't want your feedback now because of this ridiculius exp pot issue of their own doing just shows how absolutely hopeless they are. This is a bigger loss for them than you
I think Blizzard had to do it because you can't invite someone after banning them, it sends strange messages. That said, I think banning people for leveling faster even when Blizzard themselves have actively made it so that leveling is utterly pointless is total stupidity. One has to consider the current optics of BfA, and the overall Activision | Blizzard family; it is not good
@@TheNacropolice is anything you want to talk to those people. Why did you do it? Why did someone as invested as you do it? What is the underlying issue in this situation? Instead Blizzard shoves it head so far up it's own ass it's gonna ruin itself
This is spot on. Preach was the one who identified BfA's problems on, like, day 3 of Alpha.
They say they want feedback but they ban you from this event. That means they don't honestly want feedback, they want "yes men".
Hopeless? The just set a standard with s big ytuber.
Its very fun to see this shit.
So the guy who 100% predicted EVERY single issue with BFA and Azerite armor especially got fucked over because of an XP potion...... decision to unsub has been more then confirmed.
Yup this officially tears it. Im out peace.
Have you been still subbed?
@@arch126 haven't touched the sub button since Legion.
It just wasn't in me to even attempt BFA. And this is another good reason in the sea of reasons not to give BFA a chance.
Hell even a free weekend didn't make me want to jump back in.
Stiil abused an exploit. The guy that warned a Bank for their safety issues, And then robbed the bank. Still gets jailtime.
@@Robin...222 Well if you rob the bank it does affect a lot of people. If you level a character faster it doesn t affect anyone, it just saves you time.
Preach: uses minor exploit.
Blizzard: SEND HIM TO THE RANCH!
Preach uses an exploit... minor or major, it's an exploit. Then he promotes the exploit on his yt channel.
@@1speq You're absolutely right, I'm not denying and neither is Preach, but the exploit was widely known about. Everyone I saw, knew or was openly using the exploit whilst showing others how to use it. On top of that the punishment is far too harsh. But I get where you're coming from, it's just a shitty situation.
@@iv_fury5665 How is it too harsh. People who exploited got two day bans. People who monetized the exploit for money got 30 day bans.
@@Dularr the ban isn't the issue.
The permanent black mark & exclusion from events is. His channel & we as viewers have been fucked over because of it.
@@FaolanHart I mean, it's a pretty simple thing, you make your living on a game, you dont participate in any kind of exploit, regardless, and you surely dont live stream it to a ton of people.
It doesn't matter what blizz does at this point
they lost me
probably forever. i have not even the tiniest bit of interest in playing any blizzard game anymore
So long as that is based upon the quality of the content then that makes sense. If you would stop doing something you would otherwise rather being doing over the consequences dolled out to a content creator for a rules violation that seems silly.
-"You think you do... but you don't."
this is the quote that made me lose all respect for blizzard.
Current wow is just reskinned D3..... nty
A quote about vanilla servers, which are coming this summer.
Man you didn't let us down.
If anything Blizzard let you down. If they had any idea of your character they'd know you're perfectly reasonable and want the best for the game. Them making a mountain out of a molehill at this day and age of a 13 year old game to a player that has been dedicated to the whole time is frankly absurd and borderline unacceptable.
Allowances should be made, and further this issue simply should not be an issue in the first place. Its just Blizzard being completely unreasonable and I really can't fathom why this is the hill they plant their flag on.
Big companies like this like to fly the no tolerance policy because its super safe
And easy/simple
Have to agree, seems blizzards rigid mindset regarding these things is at fault here. I quit wow a while ago but i am still keeping up with wow content hoping it will change. I cannot speak for others but you did not let me down Mike. /brofist
If they started to make exceptions It sould be a mess. Blizzard did what they had to do. They could/should have done it another way, but it wasnt wrong
@@Eroll-dw8ex it wasnt "wrong" but i still hard disagree that they had to. Its thinking like that; that has pushed away so many people from so many things like the way wow is now
More passion went into this video than BfA altogether. And that explains a lot.
And shadowlands
If blizzard wants to pass up on feedback from one of the few people who would actually give them valuable information they're the ones who let us down. Honestly this was a petty punishment for an offense that didn't hurt anyone. Account punishment, as you alluded to, was entirely appropriate.
Whenever you and Asmongold go on Allcraft or Finalboss you both have the best insights into the REAL state of WoW and what can possibly be done. You let noone down Preach. Blizz just wants to pocket a bunch of 'content creators' to evangelize their dying husk of a game. Soggy Bollox bastards...
Yeah you don't sound negatively biased at all...
@@stevensmileyprod What?
Blizz let me down, not you Preach. Love you and your content. Just keep your head up and keep hoping for some things to happen out of all this.
no preach u havnt let us down. blizzard let us down. yeah sure u did an oppsie, and u took the blame and throw urself under the buss. blizzard should have done better.
@Chef Zeff I would agree if it was a gamebreaking exploit that has a lasting effect on the community / economy, or one that was abused to grief and harass others. But it's a damn potion that helped people level up a few alts. Big deal. A 31 day ban and being ousted from an event that had been months in planning is a punishment that doesn't fit the crime -- especially when you consider Preach's longstanding clean record. It also doesn't help that Blizzard refused to respond to the flood of tweets and forum posts asking about it. Bad optics on Blizzard's behalf, and another sign of a company that doesn't know how to communicate effectively with its players.
@Chef Zeff Why is the onus on the players, and not the devs, for releasing buggy functionality?
How does a player, _who does not use the internet_ , know that the code bug would be considered an exploit?
@@kalathi1898 aslo whe cauldron bug which effected servers economies which is way more severe then people lvling faster got no bans at all.
@@CosmicCleric how tf do u not use the internet and play a game online???
@@CosmicCleric How would a player "accidentally" separate all their potions and use them individually unless they learned from someone? People just looking for excuses to hate Blizzard at this point and it's sad. He broadcasted the exploit to an audience, of course he was going to get a stiffer penalty. Streamers need to stop thinking they're somehow above the ToS and realize they're players too. Preach seemed sincere with his apology at first but to throw the blame right back at Blizzard is sad and pathetic.
The way you handled this is one of the reasons I have followed you for years. Down to earth, honest and owning up to mistakes. More of that. Keep it up mate.
Yeah I was on that page until this video where he said nobody cared about it and they shouldn't have banned people. So I put A LOT of hours into leveling my characters fairly and casual raid loggers get to cheat their way to and get heritage armor as well? For free, and they expect to just get off and Blizzard turn a blind eye? That punishes fair players that didn't do the exploit. This is the type of delusion that comes with being a lazy raid logger, no respect for the grind an MMO should have.
Preach, I don't blame you for thinking Blizzard would not care about the faster leveling glitch, because they clearly don't care about anything that would actually make the game better.
Stay strong man, your variety streams are great. This disgusting company doesn't deserve you helping their game anyway.
This is like getting a meeting with the prime minister and then having it rescinded because of a parking ticket, i will continue to watch your content and take your word over proven liars any day of the week.
Coming back to this video 2 yrs later after following Preach and his journey throughout WoW's life I can say with confidence Blizzard imo owes a percentage of their success up until now directly TO Preach. Obviously they are successful without Mike's contribution to the game but imho Preach is apart of Wow at this point....you have done amazing things and will do even greater going forward Mike and I am behind you till the end buddy💯
At least now I know that Blizzard has never cared about feedback. There's no reason you shouldn't be there. This isn't about ethics or rules, it's about a chance to make WoW the best game it can be, and Blizzard are making excuses to keep the people that need to be there the most away from it. I love Taliesin and Evitel, sure, but they are very different players from me. What am I supposed to think when the one person who I feel best represents my issues with the game is just ignored?
I might be able to make excuses for Blizzard this time, as I have for years now, it this wasn't over something as petty as a few character levels. The level of importance between that and the state of the game is so ridiculous and... sigh. I love WoW. I want to come back. But holy FUCK. I can't even begin to sympathize with them at this point.
Stay strong Preach, and don't take this too hard. You're one of if not the only things keeping me remotely interested in WoW right now. In my eyes, this is a total overreaction on Blizzard's part that just shows how unwilling they are to fix the way the game is and has been headed for a long while.
Blizzard: Hey guise we added a micro transaction leveling boost for the price of 4 monthly subscriptions.
Also Blizzard: Oi we care about the integrity of the leveling process, get banned mate LUL
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Can somebody explain this to me...
You said it
Well said
‘Exploit’: nobody cared till you got banned.
Bliz visit: nobody cared till you got disinvited.
I watched T&E, plus Hazel. But I tabbed to Preach for the real talk. I’ll be here for your thoughts after you’ve been on PTR. 👍
T&E live in a happiness bubble created by social engineers at Activision Blizzard. Their content is devoid of any critical look at the game, they are cheerleaders, wined an dined by smart moneypeople, and a marketing vehicle. Activision Blizzard knew that Mike can be critical, so they were relieved they could use the XP Potion bug usage as a reason to prevent him seeing 8.2 in advance.
T&E are hypocritical shills. They put on a permanent smile and cheerful attitude even in the worst of times. They couldn't stop smiling even in their video about the 800 people getting laid off.
Stopped watching T&E months ago. Their content has no substance.
@@Emajenus lol how did you stop watching them months ago but watch a video that came out barely 1 month ago
T&E is unbridled cringe.
@@Boooooooooooooop Because when you show something "unconditional love" without any criticism and they are at fault they will never change. Because they think they are perfect as they are because they are being told that. So if you really love something and you see it doing something bad, point that out and say what they can improve, that is real love. Blizzard is a massive moneyprinting corporation it can handle criticism trust me.Latest T&E video really shows where their loyalty lies and it is not being honest with their fanbase. How they fanboyed blizzard employes was almost appalling. They are 100% being paid for their silence and praise. And obviously they are on the shill list. Their payment is being invited to events.
The real issue is the game is so broken in it's current state that even die-hard fans of the game are willing to exploit to make it more fun. You did nothing wrong. You didn't let anyone down. Blizzard is the culprit. They made a defunct expansion and now are trying to find a scapegoat for their inadequacies.
That preacher, Bel and asmon was not there. Is just s shame. They where the right people to talk to blizzard
@@Slowbo Considering that blizzard doesn't even want asmongold to be at blizzcon, i seriously doubt he was even invited to the summit
Remember a couple years ago at Blizzcon when Ion saw you and LITERALLY TRIED TO RUN AWAY?
Edit: Oh good, he talks about it at 8:06.
Seeing all the people going "Stop defending him, he broke DA RULES!"
The problem isn't that he got punished, but that the punishment was too harsh and not proportional to the wrongdoing.
If someone steals a candybar and gets a 10 year prison sentence, you wouldn't be saying "Well, they did break the law! It's completely justified!"
Specially because we're talking about A VIDEOGAME and an exploit which didn't create a negative game experience for any other player. Get over yourselves and stop being so self-righteous about it.
no it was not. it was well deserved
He didn't get a harsh punishment lol. Blizzard is still talkng to him
This is absolute nonsense.. He is a very public streamer of World of Warcraft who, through his actions, promoted an exploit. That exploit can and would have had negative consequences on Blizzard, who are a company and are profit driven. If blizzard takes a loss, their employees get laid off to make up for the money loss. They restructure to try and make some money back.
You state, not a negative game experience, but Blizzard runs on money, its employees need to be paid, investors need a return and this exploit would have cut directly into their income by making levelling far far easier than it was intended, resulting in less levelling services being used, meaning less income for Blizzard.
He fucked up, he deserves what has happened to him.
@@dean9118 Mate, claiming that Blizzard employees will suffer if they run out of money is moot when Blizzard fires employees even when they are making bank. What's worse is that they put up those positions again shortly after as well as paid Ninja a ton of money to do a promotion. Believe you me, they couldn't give less of a shit about their employees. On top of that, most of their money comes from subscriptions and microtransactions from the in-game store, not from people leveling. And that hinges on content, not time spent leveling since it's already super fucking easy to get to end game with how much the game rushes you towards it now-days. And that's just WoW, then you take into consideration how much cash they are getting from their other franchises like Hearthstone and Overwatch, both which are franchises that are practically printing money for Blizzard.
Don't defend Blizzard, they neither deserve your effort nor care about it. They are a huge, souless, mega successful company and they don't know who you or I are, and they don't give a shit about any of us. Their employees don't gain anything from your effort, and they are no safer if Blizzard is making bank than if they weren't. If Blizzard could do all of this without a single employee they would.
Preach fucked up. That much is true. But he was punished harshly over something really minor because Blizzard over-reacted and was probably looking for a reason to cut ties because he wasn't praising them at every turn. At most, this was something you issued warnigs about and punished those that continued afterwards until you patched it. Not what happened here.
I'm a month late to watching this video due to me unsubscribing to Preacher for a myriad of reasons but... I'm gonna let you in on a little secret:
No one made a comparison between stealing a candy bar and a 10 year prison sentence. For several reasons, one of the biggest ones is that _stealing_ has consequences based on the cost of what you stole; there would be a consequence for stealing a candy bar if you were caught on but at most, it'd be shoplifting - most commonly, it'd be a slap on the wrist and a broom shooing you out of the door.
However... what if you have been let on by that same store that you are going to get to test their newest line of candy bars.
Do you think it is justified in that case that _they broke the store's trust INTENTIONALLY_ and thus' a harsher punishment can be made? Except, in this case... the real punishment ontop of that slap-to-shoplifting charge also not getting to try out their newest line of candybars?
Sure... this is a video game. Blizzard on the other hand is a multi-billion company that is about to release an update for one of the most influential pieces of software that has existed in the past 15 years, one that literally millions of people to this day still care about.
You think _those_ might care just a _bit_ more about one of their most trusted community content-makers promoting an exploit, mocking them essentially on stream and doing this _AFTER_ having received the said invite?
... let me tell you something else... one of the reasons why I quit watching Preacher on a regular basis is because of you. Or well, folks like you.
What I just said is common sense and it'll be ignored in favour of memes where crap like "If someone steals a candybar and gets a 10 year prison sentence" will be said instead of "hey, Preacher exploited the game intentionally knowing he was doing it because... others were doing it" ...
Great logic.
By both Preacher and yourself.
Stop apologizing mike! This is utter bs, they missed a golden opportunity to get some amazing ideas from ya m8. I'll always be here for ya
@Ryan W when you can make more than the average streamer per month please feel free to open your mouth. Until then please feel free to keep it shut. Thanks :)
@Ryan W not assuming you are jobless, but I am pretty sure that you don't make as much as the average streamer of say 700 supportive viewers, and definitely not as much as someone like Sodapoppin or Asmongold
Blizzard is just another generic, soulless husk of a company now. Shame really.
He shouldn't have cheated
Kevin lol you’re really going to accuse someone of having zero tolerance and in the same sentence tell them to hang themselves over a RUclips video?
@@iJxlly Absolutely. People like you being gone from this world make it a better place. Seriously, consider it.
@@mikey0193 wtf is wrong with you kid, step away from the computer and think about yourself a bit, try to grow a bit, then maybe people will enjoy talking to and hearing your opinion
@@j4kfr05t5 You call him a pre-teen shitstick and then continue on to do the exact same thing he did. That's big brain right there. You're quite short sighted and unaware of yourself it seems lol. Insult me if you want in response, I don't really care.
With all the shit going on... I am going to throw a guess in the dark but, unless your suggestions came in the form of microtransactions, I don't think they would have been implemented.
Too true unfortunately
Just want to say, You're my boy, Preach. Keep your head up and most importantly, *keep doing what you're doing!*
I have quit this game 4 times now and always come back because of your videos, the fact your vidoes made me even want to try BFA speaks volumes for you. I ended burning out on it and not enjoying but carried on watching your videos for the drama time to see how the game is doing etc. Seeing the way you've been treated is quite astounding, hope you all the best.
man i love Preach, so genuine and feels like he really cares for the game and its community.
Everything makes me hate Blizzard more
Blizzard stopped being Blizzard years ago. You should really look at the company in a way they really are: monetisation first, build a game around it.
Blizzard has lost its mind. You didn’t deserve this. They knew about the problem for days and didn’t comment or stop it. It also happened in a “come back to Azeroth” promotion. It was Blizzards fault and for Gods sake, using a potion gets you banned and stops you from going to the meeting?? Damn them. Your my favorite content creator.
Blizzard isnt obliged to tell you not to use bugs or exploits thats brakes core gameplay mechanics and you can see it the 5 seconds you see it.Of course he will be banned.The rest is bad Timing andmade Blizz defencive.End of Drama
Don’t be so hard on yourself man. I quit wow well over a year now and have been on and off for years, blizzard doesn’t understand how to give wow a soul anymore. But I still watch your content regularly and that’s what I like. Not the game, but the sould you give it. Reminds me why I played it for so many years. Did you mess up? Yes. But you didn’t deserve this. To me, you are still the better person.
Mike ive been watching you for years, your always a bright light on the community since you always call it the way it is. Dont apologize its their loss, its gonna bite them in the ass in the end. Keep being yourself!
You did not let us down Mike, Blizzard did by turning their back to you. Out of all the people on the internet and content creators I would only trust you to have a constructive conversation with them to fix the game, because you have always taken the time and effort to be critical in everything related with WoW. If we knew that you went there and carried our thoughts straight to the Blizzard HQ and their developers, at least we would know that they have the community's feedback. Now we have nobody to represent us. I say nobody, because out of all the content creators I trust none of them to go for the sake of providing constructive feedback, most of them want to caress Blizzard's ears and tell them how amazing the next thing will be, even though they know how little the game has become.
In the end I feel it's like politics. The most useless individuals are always the ones we get to hear in a parliament, and the ones that truly deserve and have the ideas and knowledge are left outside, because they won't contribute to any further decadence of the system in place..
You did not let us down. You represent everything that is good in the WoW community, and for that we support you, we follow you and we thank you.
Chris K there are alit if top players and theorycrafters whom are fed up with blizzard. They have tried to have very mature and constructive conversations with them many times and have been out right ignored. Blizzard didn’t even respond with a no thanks about anything just completely ignored. Now these players have given up and it shows. The game is honestly going downhill and it’s all blizzards fault. They can try to point fingers all they want and guilt trip people like preacher but even the more causal players whom haven’t seen the proof from top players are starting to see. Many didn’t believe how blizzard has gotten because it was all mainly the top players or the players who are most experienced in the game but now issues are so deep the casual base are starting to see. Just wait until they realize how deep this is, how long this has been going on and how much people have tried.
@@blackllistd5752 That's so true, it just feels sad for everyone of us who are fans of the game (even the ones complaining, do so because they want the game to be good again, except for maybe a small percentage of trolls), going on youtube and seeing videos about the state of BFA, and how most of them are completely fed up with the game...
Blizz should have treated you better. You deserve so much more that to be tossed aside for a simple mistake. We love you preach, and will help you up through the storm.
Blizzard really don't have a clue what they're doing anymore - they handled the whole situation terribly from start to finish. I'm genuinely embarrassed for them.
yeah and the fun part just as mike said: No one cared they got a few days ban because the game is not intresting enough for you to care for it, i didnt get ban but 4.ish friends of me in game got banned and they just laughed and said "so what".. Thats the state of the game. lol.
@Ryan W You don't have to read RUclips comments if it irks you so much fella, don't torture yourself
@Ryan W Who said we don't play the game?
@Ryan W what are you on about now haha
@Ryan W Read the comment again he never said anything about quitting. Neither did I
It's a true shame. Blizz lost out on a very good opportunity. You're the man mike, keep up the good work.
You just showed your fans and blizzard what kind of man you are, nobody can ever question your integrity,character. I took a long look at myself and I come up short of the kind of man you are. :( we all know you mean well,so don't beat yourself up ok your a good man.
If Blizzard cut you off for something so petty, then they were looking for an excuse to do so. You're often critical of the game, and the PR side of the company is tired of the current climate in being worn down by constant criticism.
Yup. These guys are high-five'ing themselves. Now only the shills are left.
@@kellvalar8573 Unfortunately for Blizzard, shills don't pay the bills.
Yep you nailed it
I disagree. The issue lies with the bans themselves, as Mike stated, nobody cared until the bans went out. If nobody had been banned they could have just put it in the patchnotes and called it a day.
Personally? Yeah I think its bs and they should have just invited him anyways, but the core issue lies with them delaying the fix for the exploit and then rolling out the bans after, and then having to uphold a public image according to the bans and their company view on the XP exploit. Keep in mind they always held the stance that the bans were justified.
you're such a genuine, down to earth guy. i don't think your fanbase feels let down by what has happened. keep up the good work mate
Honestly? Nobody wins. I find their actions against you to be petty, mostly because your actions in using the exploit are just a symptom of issues they’ve created. I don’t like how one-sides this is.
Yes mate, exactly. If people are looking for ways to bypass the system, the system is broken. And the people who were trying to make things passable by finding exploits are the ones that should be heard the most. They are the ones that actually have a vision on how the game should be.
Okay, If I don't like the game its ok to cheat?
@@fabiank4396 It was a goddamn xp potion. Were you effected ? not AT ALL. was ANYONE negatively effected ? NO.
@@Quickb3n exactly. This is the very definition of a victimless crime. It's not like he found a wpvp exploit and was publicly (on stream) griefing other players. Ffs
Come on, it's victimless in the sense it didn't directly effect anyone but to say nobody was or that the game isn't is ridiculous and is exactly the reason that the phrase "exploit early, exploit often" came to prominence, no exploit really effects players that they get banned for in the same way.
Botting doesn't effect anyone else either, also used for leveling, do you think bots should be banned? I assume a counter argument to be something like "it's automated so it's wrong" then what about something like a pilot for a mythic dungeon like some of the realm first 15s were done or for PVP. Was exploiting Ivus wrong? It didn't effect anyone else that you got loot. It's stupid to me that in the absolute best case scenario Blizzard didn't care and that somehow is a justification or that the same people scream from the rooftops about Ivus or bots or pilots then say that this banning was unjust.
Preach, been there done that in life! Sometimes you frack things up royally. It's not the poor choices we make that define us, but what we do when the dust settles that does. I feel your pain, and overall frustration with yourself in this video brother. Keep your head held high, no one is perfect and I'm sure the good folks at Blizz have skeletons in their closets that they would prefer stay buried. Yours, unfortunately is on display for the interwebs to see. Focus on staying the course and mending things at home! That's what is most important now.
Mike, you have kept me playing this game for years now and honestly taught me EVERYTHING I know about this game. They were too hard on you and honestly I have lost respect for them. I have nothing but respect for you. Everything will work itself out!
Blizzard: "He'll bend the knee or his influencer status will be destroyed."
Ion: "Why not both?"
Why couldn't Mike have lingered on the edge of the battle with the other noble boys? :(
They didn't want him to "bend the knee". He got treated the same as everyone else.
@@stevedocherty1816 how much money did every body else lose over being banned?
@@stevedocherty1816 OH was that the objective? to show him he's just another fish in the pond?
Was that the reason Preach got the HIGHEST BAN AT 31 DAYS OVER EVERYONE ELSE?
Because of "equality"?
Dont sweat it mate its their loss also this is a comapny they really dont look for any real feedback they just want people they can control and do exacly as they tell them
Blizzard needs to realize the resource they have in people like you, people who brings players like me back to the game #PreachLogsMeIn
Yeah he's solely responsible for about 80% of my play time tbh
I don't play currently, but his videos are the only reason I consider going back to it.
#PreachsLogInMe
My main MMO is FFXIV and I've never played WoW before, but I still enjoy both your content and charisma you bring to this platform and that hasn't changed since your suspension.
I don't feel let down and I'll still be looking forward to some juicy drama every Friday!
Maybe the xp potion thing was a test for the people who were going to get invited. Like a Willie Wonka deal to weed out the bad eggs>.>. Feels bad, but that 30 seconds to mars background track was very appropriate. I feel like you deserved to go, I'm still surprised you participated in the exploit. You'll get invited back in the future I bet.
Most transparent streamer/youtuber. This is yet another reason I won't resub to blizzard killing one of your biggest names.
He killed himself
@@grim86 Why do people like you elect to ignore that tons of people reached out asking blizzard if this was intentional or not, and got no response? Why is everyone ignoring that. This is just as much Blizzards fault as well, you people just choose to ignore it.
@@thorn4564 Exactly, communication would have prevented this. If they had said publicly "its an exploit, don't do it" most people wouldn't have.
Meanwhile the counter is still not there.
@@FaolanHart Exactly. And I mean it fell right on top of the new races being introduced, when leveling would've mattered most. I personally didn't level any goons during all this. But I don't blame anyone who took advantage of it for exploiting.
but you see this here is what blizzard wanted. make an example out of preach, then really scare ppl out of cheating. and he is one of the good guys mind you. i wonder if they would have ever invited asmongold..
Blizzard is so petty. Seriously, that is not the company that got my money back in the day.
Once they actually sent out the suspensions (i got a 2 day ban for going lvl 53 to 97 in 3 hrs) they cant have him there as a matter of principal or for themselves business ethics. Thats why preach said "you shouldnt have wasted a ban wave on it" basically by making it an official mark against those customers they are then forced to follow through with what it entails.
Although this is always sketchy as they basically said "we are punishing customer" whereas normally they should only be punishing the account (whiich is only OWNED by a customer). The Idea that your account caan be banned but you are free to use your same personnel information and credit card and open a new account because Preach the person can still do business but acc #3339992245 cannot.
@@jasonu3741 I don't think this is true. Healthy people and businesses can have disagreements, enforce boundaries, issue punishments, and yet still work together or be friendly afterwards. Otherwise the only suitable punishment for any crime would be permanent exile. I would say the issue is that Blizzard is hardly a healthy company and the WoW team these days do not seem to do a whole lot of acting mature, responsible, or functional.
Obviously it's not true, they could have him there for whatever reason they want just as they can and did decide not to have him there for petty reasons. Nobody can stop them from inviting someone to their personal event(Attempting so would be illegal, at least where I live) and him streaming that exploit certainly didn't cost them so much money that it was physically impossible for them to invite him.
The problem with permanently exiling an influencer who keeps people playing your game is that you lose the people who only play because of that person and they're just scared and overreacting without thinking shit through. If they thought shit through they would've realized that issuing a personal punishment made it look like malicious intent against preach and alienated most people anyway.
@@jasonu3741 You don't own your WoW account, Blizzard does. It's what you agree to when you click "Accept" on the Terms of Service.
@@darkaero you are correct i did mean you own your account in the same way you own your drivers License. you do but you dont.
DONT BE SORRY, WoW will feel the wrath of it down the line. It's there loss
Or people can just not cheat. The fanboys need to stop the conspiracy nonsense and blaming blizzard for other people being unable to control themselves.
I had so much burn out from Legion and BFA, I quit before Uldir ended. However, you kept me going through Legion and the beginning of BFA. I met so many good friends in that time I would've never met them without you and I still keep in contact with them even though I don't play anymore. So thank you Preach, and I still watch your vids because I love your content and respect you a lot. Keep up the good work Preach and I'll be here(quietly) cheering you on. :)
you didn't let us down. i'm thankfull for all the things you do for this community! love you preach!
Honestly Mike, I don't think this was remotely about "receiving feedback" or "caring" to hear what the "community" opinion is.
This was 100% a marketing strategy to try to get back in the good graces of the key community influencers so 8.2 is received with a better light.
Why do you think they brought Taliesen there? do you really think it was because they thought that guy has a remotely insightful feedback to give? or was it because he is the biggest man-child fanboy that will create positive hype for 8.2?
Pepe Silvia 100% agree.
Its like Blizzard was looking for an excuse to turn against you. You don't deserve to be shunned at all
No one was looking for a reason to turn against him. Blizzard had no issue at all.
So Blizzard FORCED him to use the exploit AND stream it for everyone to see?
I don't understand Blizzard though. First of all, the punishment itself was way too harsh for a minor screwup. And secondly, Preach is pretty much WoW's biggest influencer. By banning him from this, you give up major exposure for these new features (maybe they aren't good though^^). I for one, don't play WoW anymore since the expansion came out, but still watch Preach's videos, from time to time.
I totally agree. I trust Preach's judgement and unless he tells me that WoW is getting better/fixed, I'm not gonna try to play it again. (currently playing FFXIV and it's quite good btw xD)
@@qoralswp didn't say it was fine
Said it seemed like they don't care because they left it for DAYS WITH NO COMMUNICATION!!
but immediately response goes to transmogrification questions
The state of the game feels weird. It feels hollow. Legion felt so good but BFA feels like wow lite.
I think the fact that Blizzard said you aren't going literally shows the state of them right now. They think they are doing the right thing but they clearly aren't.
They think they are, but they're not. Wonderfully put.
Damn bro, you need a hug. It'll be okay my man. I've watched you for years, you've done nothing but good for this community. It's blizzard losing their way. I respect you.
You didn't let us down, mate. Honestly, this made me loose more respect for Blizzard. They try to act professional, but this just looks childish to me.
Incredibly childish
Exactly how i feel
How?! He publicly supported an exploit. He is a representative for this game no matter what you say. He fucked up and deserves this.
Sorry Preach that’s devastating mate and I feel your pain, keep your head up mate, we all make mistakes, and we learn, chin up, keep up the good work mate ❤️
Mike, I've watched your videos for years and even though I dont have a computer and cant play WoW anymore, continue watching. You have never let any of us down and have nothing to apologize for. Thank you for everything you do and continue to do for simply the love of the game.
Man, you can tell how passionate you are Mike. And it's hard seeing you this, not upset, but disappointed at what could of been.
Sure you chose to do what you did, but like you say it doesn't matter. And I genuinely believe Blizz (and us) have lost out.
But don't feel bad for it, I wouldn't say it's your fault.
All the best bro.
Preach, how about you take a look at some other MMO's or upcoming ones? There's no hard and fast rule that you should stick to blizz and WoW.
He don't like other mmos
Look at all current and future WoW competitors and you will understand why he sticks with WoW like most of ppl.
But all other MMOs are pretty damn bad in the aspects he enjoys, so what's the point?
ESO has a pretty dang good competitive raiding and social scene..
Yes there is - his channel is dead without wow.
As much as he likes to pretend he's a variety streamer he's really not. Branching out in game reviews in 2019 is pretty retarded. Especially when the MW series lost what people enjoyed about it in the first place; that is two, often very different opinions on one game in one video.
Since he axed the manchild they've both been struggling.
Not your fault. Just another Blizzard let down.
Blizzard and their egos......
Don't let them get you down! You are better than them Preacher
Blizzard isn't wrong here, though. Preach admitted he fucked up and it was totally his fault.
Stop apologizing, you didn't let us down. Everyone makes mistakes and as long as you learn from your mistakes then you move on and do better in the future.
I'm not even subbed to you or watch your videos on a regular basis. But it's so clear to see that you really care about the game and just want it to be better. Honestly, you sound broken that they canceled your invite. I feel for ya man.
It's really sad that Blizz cares too much about their 60$ level 110s Mike. Mad respect for everything you do. I'll always be in your corner.
Saddest thing is they probably made more money from people subscribing back than they lost with boosts being missed.
Can't get suspended, If you aren't subscribed... *Taps temple*
Jokes aside, You do a great job. Keep truckin on man. Quite a thing that I'll watch your content for a game I've not played sense the end of Legion.
Love You Preach and I'm totally with You. I agree with everything You said in this video and You have my support Buddy. Keep Your head up !!
Can I ask, what happens to your legacy when WoW dies?
I really think you can provide your skills and expertise to a better game.
I agree, don't let Blizzard who's destroying their own game let them take you down with them. All the WoW streamers and RUclipsrs have diversified and some have seen huge success from it. I know it won't be WoW and I personally still miss it but it's not the same game I used to love and play every single day anymore.
I’m pretty sure he will move on to another game if wow dies or he decides to drop wow.
Asmongold’s sub count soared when he started playing new games.
Or something better than video games.
Ope
I've been in this game for far too long, and I've followed it by far too long... I got close to quitting many times, but I always came to see your content about what is ahead, and what we really have now (as I couldn't take part in some of the content for a variety of reasons), and you always gave me a good, solid reason to stay and look forward to what was to come.
I went from a sad carry raider in MC all the way to Naxx (and we couldn't even beat it), to finally get into Mythic with WoD, and that was thanks in great part to you. You own us nothing, I know you think you do, and I understand why, but you have done far more for this game and this community that you could even begin to fathom.
Even though you did exploit and accept the punishment, that is because you are a fair person, for the good and for the bat, and that what makes you stand out in the middle of the content creators who handle WoW. You do what is right, and I really respect you for that.
Don't feel bad, don't feel like you let us down. We know your intentions, we know you would have done everythign you planned for the game and for us if you could have. You will soon be back and enjoying the game, regardless of what Blizzard did or thinks. We are gonna be here for your take on Azshara' Eternal Palace and everything else 8.2.
Stay strong, brother.