Lou Reed was always pushing it while still more than happy to mine the past. I don't think that he ever thought that a song was ever totally done. Sometimes he'd get close to murdering his own compositions but isn't that where the true magic lives? Taking it to and beyond the limit is the opposite of bland.
Yea he never wanted to do the same thing more than a few times. Even going as far as throwing out what made a song great on the record for a live performance. he was like a jazz player in that respect. sometimes he would strike gold and make it sound better than the record.
To compare VU to The Beatles is like trying to compare Bob Dylan to The Rolling Stones or Water to Wine. Impossible. Everything has its place, its values, and its pleasures. I just feel lucky to be here at this time and be able to love them all.
IMO this is pretty clean and clear for a boot from that era. I imagine this was done on a reel to reel machine, not a cassette. Those things were absolute shite but are valuable for what they captured. EDIT: sure is stupid to comment and then have to go back and correct yourself. Had I just watched the whole thing I would have seen the info on this being recorded on reel to reel. At least my ears haven't betrayed me.
I think john cale once said that rubber soul inspired him and lou when they were forming velvet underground . Mostly their use of sitar in norwegian wood . I think it gave them the feeling that the scene of mainstream music is changing and in a good way .
Beatles, the band loved by millions, themselves inspired by 100 bands...The Velvet, a band not popular but somehow inspired 10,000 bands to come. They are two different stories an cannot compare as such.
without John Cale there would not be a VU as we know it -----or at all -----cale bought english folk as well as art to lou reed ------cales say -i spent over 12 months teach them 'drone-- we never played live - we just worked on our art-- we got the Beatles -we got their records soon as they came out ------in fact we wanted ' Brian espstien to manage us -and we gave him a copy of 'nico &vu in a taxi ride in nyc 1966.. but eppi was so out of it on drugs .. he said yeah great -ill take it bk to england .. but he poss just left in the street -he was eight miles high .. and we never heard from him -lou wanted to be with Epstien
So, the V.U.'s Third and Fourth Albums do not exist, then? According to your Pronouncement, Then? I'm sure that they do. But people only hear, what they want, and dis-regard Social Science and any facts of the matter.
o yeah. its cool because you can hear Lou's guitar start to wash with effects, then he starts going crazy on the solo, just off the damn rails. But then, they land on the 4 at some point...the solo kinda calls for a second listen
The IDGAF attitude shown here is so out there. It predates the punk era and its DIY ethos to just make a happy joyful noise. I could listen to this for hours. So much fun in it.
What are you talking about they didn't steal it from watch your step because that riff isn't in watch your step. He plays a blues lick which sounds like the riff played really fast but it's just a blues lick.
I agree man. He did not like the Beatles - he was adamant about that. I believe you speak the truth. Those British groups stole so much from the Americans just like Lou said...
@@clc-gl4jn I like The Beatles, The Velvet Underground and Bobby Parker I'm not just a Beatles fan. I'm just saying the riff from Daytripper is an arpeggiated blues lick that Watch Your Step happened to use once in it's opening. It's that simple.
@@clc-gl4jn If you really think that Lou Reed actually hated The Beatles then you seem to miss Lou Reed's sarcastic personality entirely. He loved to mess with reporters/interviewers and would lie to and say contradictive/controversial things just to get a reaction out of them.
There was that dark vibe even when they were playing other people's music and a jam uniquely their own.They weren't The Allman Brothers but they had a pretty compelling style. Priceless.
Dickey Betts actually punched Lou in the face as i read in the somewhat recent biography about lou. At some type of party fundraiser thing. no clue if lou was able to get one in on him lol
I suspect that The Beatles' "Day Tripper" was written about Edie Sedgwick. It is similar in theme to "Femme Fatale." Maybe that explains why The Velvet Underground jammed to it.
even tho it says rare Velvet Underground in big letters, sounds just like them, and to yr right r lots of VU uploads, comments still asking if this is VU, no its Justin Beiber....duh.
It is funny that when the Beatles were writing "Cant Buy Me Love" Lou is over here writing songs like Heroin...Lou is the best of the best of the very very!
Lou didn't write Heroin in Jan 1964. Probably still at Syracuse Univ. Rubber Soul was a pot album released in DEC 1965. I think the Beatles recording Tomorrow Never Knows in April 1966 - more around Lou's Velvet days
the beatles and the velvet underground weren't as far away lyric wise as many think, in 1966 the beatle recorded revolver while the velvet underground was recording "The Velvet Underground and Nico" and they hold a lot of lyrical similarities. Doctor Robert was about a person John Lennon was buying drugs from similar to I'm waiting for my man. She said She said is about an acid trip when somebody explained what it was like to die to john, tomorrow never knows is inspired from the book the Tibetan book of the dead. People like to think the beatles and the underground were years apart but they forget that the beatles love song period was from around 1962-1965 I'd say ending with Rubber Soul.
Proof that not every bootleg is a cheap rip off. Proof that Lou started out with some talent but in need of direction and a cause. Here he sounds like a thousand other guitarists, jamming and concentrating on getting song right...yet every now and then he allows that inner beast to sun itself for a while. The finger picking is reminiscent of demos such as 'Row the boat ashore'. But this is heavier/deeper...definite hints at what was to follow. In, short, this is worthy of a place on any VU retrospective...as long as it's 5 or more discs long!
Thie song has nothing to do with day tripper, nor the guitar line, rhythm, nothing. Its just a 12 bars structure used in many songs like chuck berry, elvis or the beatles. I like it anyway, specially that characteristic velvet sound
PS: HAVE t. Another reviewer claimed to have been a huge Reed fan from the beginning. He went on to disparage Cale and Nico's contributions as worthless. What an idiotic thing to say...Reed needed Cale every bit as much as Cale needed Reed. Some of Reed's greatest songs ONLY work because of Nico...and only Cale managed to recreate her spirit. HOW can some people be so dumb?
+andyinoregon Actually Lou Reed said he despised all his contemporaries apart from Roger McGuinn. He also had a strong Bob Dylan influence as heard on the demo tapes.
No, they definitely would have existed without them. Lou brought early rock and roll/doo-wop, pop and Dylan influence, with an experimental bent, and Cale brought the avant-garde/way more experiemental part, Mo the minimalist drumming, Sterling the master guitar work. Other than that few seconds of guitar, I don't think there's much Beatles influence in their work. They stand head and shoulders above the Beatles.
I'm sorry, but my high school garage band was better than this. And I'm someone who bought The Velvet Underground & Nico when it came out in '67. I was 16.
This is so much better than the Beatles , they could only dream about this sound. The VU make it there own sound. Now you understand why Lou didn’t like the Beatles.
John Lennon definitely could’ve done something similar to this. Matter of fact, check out Yoko Ono and John Lennon’s song “Why” off the Album Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band.
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Night Tripper
Yep
😂
If you love The Velvets, this is heaven!
Sure is my friend
Oh Daytripper with a electric viola with Mandolin strings that's real top 40...Cale Reed absolute geniuses of the 4 dimension!
Lou Reed was always pushing it while still more than happy to mine the past. I don't think that he ever thought that a song was ever totally done. Sometimes he'd get close to murdering his own compositions but isn't that where the true magic lives? Taking it to and beyond the limit is the opposite of bland.
Yea he never wanted to do the same thing more than a few times. Even going as far as throwing out what made a song great on the record for a live performance. he was like a jazz player in that respect. sometimes he would strike gold and make it sound better than the record.
Rockabilly never goes out of style.
this is an amazing jam among kids who love rock and roll above everything else
Dude, it is so worth listening to the end. What a great sound they had. I love them.
To compare VU to The Beatles is like trying to compare Bob Dylan to The Rolling Stones or Water to Wine. Impossible. Everything has its place, its values, and its pleasures. I just feel lucky to be here at this time and be able to love them all.
luv that dirty muddy-boot sound!
IMO this is pretty clean and clear for a boot from that era.
I imagine this was done on a reel to reel machine, not a cassette. Those things were absolute shite but are valuable for what they captured.
EDIT:
sure is stupid to comment and then have to go back and correct yourself. Had I just watched the whole thing I would have seen the info on this being recorded on reel to reel. At least my ears haven't betrayed me.
Do it dude lol I just recently got a squire jazz bass and ive been learning these past months, go out and jam!
RIP LOUUUUUUUU
I think john cale once said that rubber soul inspired him and lou when they were forming velvet underground . Mostly their use of sitar in norwegian wood . I think it gave them the feeling that the scene of mainstream music is changing and in a good way .
They would have liked Revolver too I think, Cale picked She Said She Said on his desert island discs
@@newdawnfades5725 yeah, in The Velvet Underground doco he talks about how crazy the lyrics of She Said were at the time to him
Increíble y sorprende..... formidable
Nunca dejan de sorprenderme, por eso los amo 👌😼.
Beatles, the band loved by millions, themselves inspired by 100 bands...The Velvet, a band not popular but somehow inspired 10,000 bands to come. They are two different stories an cannot compare as such.
agreed
VU is way better than the Beatles. Well, anyone is.
yer just a hater man. Turn off your mind relax and drift downstream.
@@rcpmac It is not dying
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Thanks, I needed that!
Lou put the Beatles down a lot so only the real fans would stay.
without John Cale there would not be a VU as we know it -----or at all -----cale bought english folk as well as art to lou reed ------cales say -i spent over 12 months teach them 'drone-- we never played live - we just worked on our art-- we got the Beatles -we got their records soon as they came out ------in fact we wanted ' Brian espstien to manage us -and we gave him a copy of 'nico &vu in a taxi ride in nyc 1966.. but eppi was so out of it on drugs .. he said yeah great -ill take it bk to england .. but he poss just left in the street -he was eight miles high .. and we never heard from him -lou wanted to be with Epstien
So, the V.U.'s Third and Fourth Albums do not exist, then? According to your Pronouncement, Then? I'm sure that they do. But people only hear, what they want, and dis-regard Social Science and any facts of the matter.
nice trolling
This is amazing
It exists!
The drone gives them away lol
Good stuff, many thanks.
That lead guitar solo bits is decades ahead of time. 1966 i say 2066 to infinty AND BEYOND
startervisions tuning two strings together. Completely makes sense of Run Run Run plus Delmore S
o yeah. its cool because you can hear Lou's guitar start to wash with effects, then he starts going crazy on the solo, just off the damn rails. But then, they land on the 4 at some point...the solo kinda calls for a second listen
Primal core of rock-'n'-roll!
Fucking awesome.
Thanks for posting mate.
irony is lost on the literal-minded fundy
The IDGAF attitude shown here is so out there. It predates the punk era and its DIY ethos to just make a happy joyful noise. I could listen to this for hours. So much fun in it.
Благодарю.
is 0617 in the morning, nice tune
Maybe this is a cover of Watch Your Step by Bobby Parker (the song the Beatles stole the riff from for Day Tripper). We will never know for sure.
What are you talking about they didn't steal it from watch your step because that riff isn't in watch your step. He plays a blues lick which sounds like the riff played really fast but it's just a blues lick.
@@jaydenwhitlen1489 lol hurt Beatles fan here ✅
I agree man. He did not like the Beatles - he was adamant about that. I believe you speak the truth. Those British groups stole so much from the Americans just like Lou said...
@@clc-gl4jn I like The Beatles, The Velvet Underground and Bobby Parker I'm not just a Beatles fan. I'm just saying the riff from Daytripper is an arpeggiated blues lick that Watch Your Step happened to use once in it's opening. It's that simple.
@@clc-gl4jn If you really think that Lou Reed actually hated The Beatles then you seem to miss Lou Reed's sarcastic personality entirely. He loved to mess with reporters/interviewers and would lie to and say contradictive/controversial things just to get a reaction out of them.
There was that dark vibe even when they were playing other people's music and a jam uniquely their own.They weren't The Allman Brothers but they had a pretty compelling style. Priceless.
Dickey Betts actually punched Lou in the face as i read in the somewhat recent biography about lou. At some type of party fundraiser thing. no clue if lou was able to get one in on him lol
@@natetheannihilnater1886 Never heard about that! :-)
yes
After the Day Tripper intro the jam seems to be based more on She's a Woman than Day Tripper.
Wow thanks
European Son at around 4:00
Is Cale on barre chord rhythm while Reed is doing that scratchy plectrum work?
cale will probably be playing bass, as he tended to most the time, like on waiting for the man
Wrong title, this is actually a European Son rehearsal
Lou does Little Richard at 6:25!
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I suspect that The Beatles' "Day Tripper" was written about Edie Sedgwick. It is similar in theme to "Femme Fatale." Maybe that explains why The Velvet Underground jammed to it.
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When reading your pithy rejoinders.
ain't the beatles - howling j wolf
even tho it says rare Velvet Underground in big letters, sounds just like them, and to yr right r lots of VU uploads, comments still asking if this is VU, no its Justin Beiber....duh.
+Denver Potts Yeah, it's Justin
is it really Justin Beaver?
It is funny that when the Beatles were writing "Cant Buy Me Love" Lou is over here writing songs like Heroin...Lou is the best of the best of the very very!
Lou didn't write Heroin in Jan 1964. Probably still at Syracuse Univ. Rubber Soul was a pot album released in DEC 1965. I think the Beatles recording Tomorrow Never Knows in April 1966 - more around Lou's Velvet days
@@darrell6800 lol
Velvet Underground basically began with Lou playing Heroin for John in 1964
the beatles and the velvet underground weren't as far away lyric wise as many think, in 1966 the beatle recorded revolver while the velvet underground was recording "The Velvet Underground and Nico" and they hold a lot of lyrical similarities. Doctor Robert was about a person John Lennon was buying drugs from similar to I'm waiting for my man. She said She said is about an acid trip when somebody explained what it was like to die to john, tomorrow never knows is inspired from the book the Tibetan book of the dead. People like to think the beatles and the underground were years apart but they forget that the beatles love song period was from around 1962-1965 I'd say ending with Rubber Soul.
What's so funny? When the VU were writing Femme Fatale the Beatles were writing Tomorrow never knows. Beat that ...
Proof that not every bootleg is a cheap rip off. Proof that Lou started out with some talent but in need of direction and a cause. Here he sounds like a thousand other guitarists, jamming and concentrating on getting song right...yet every now and then he allows that inner beast to sun itself for a while. The finger picking is reminiscent of demos such as 'Row the boat ashore'. But this is heavier/deeper...definite hints at what was to follow. In, short, this is worthy of a place on any VU retrospective...as long as it's 5 or more discs long!
too true rayantico
Haha, Lou Reed kinda looks like John Mayer in that photo. Nooo!
Naw, Mayer looks more like his mother Nico
Thie song has nothing to do with day tripper, nor the guitar line, rhythm, nothing. Its just a 12 bars structure used in many songs like chuck berry, elvis or the beatles. I like it anyway, specially that characteristic velvet sound
its called the day tripper jam because of the three-second lick played at 0:00
6:13 anyone else hear can't hurry love/lust for life
no
@mikeyskywalker Where are you? I play bass ... Cheers.
Yup, that's Day Tripper all right.
Nope
lol i mean the intro riff was. then they did some raunchy blues instead. just how they were.
is that some beatles at the beginning
Yes.
awesome
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PS: HAVE t. Another reviewer claimed to have been a huge Reed fan from the beginning. He went on to disparage Cale and Nico's contributions as worthless. What an idiotic thing to say...Reed needed Cale every bit as much as Cale needed Reed. Some of Reed's greatest songs ONLY work because of Nico...and only Cale managed to recreate her spirit. HOW can some people be so dumb?
That sounds nothing like day tripper, thank god
I keep waiting for Sterling to hit a wrong note. But he never does. They're using standard blues form, but it never becomes cliche.
The Beatles if Lennon had been in charge.
Sounds like Big Boss Man to me..........
Is this VU or not?
I was thinking the same thing but then 4:07 no one could pull off such a solo
Fuck yes it is.
Brian Topolinski so true!
+coldironhands1 It's Justin Bieber
for sure it is.
Lul wut!? This sounds very VU.
I always knew they were better than the beatles
+Raymantico They'd be the first to tell you they probably wouldn't have existed without The Beatles to inspire them.
+andyinoregon Actually Lou Reed said he despised all his contemporaries apart from Roger McGuinn. He also had a strong Bob Dylan influence as heard on the demo tapes.
but lou was famous for talking shite to journalists as well.
No, they definitely would have existed without them. Lou brought early rock and roll/doo-wop, pop and Dylan influence, with an experimental bent, and Cale brought the avant-garde/way more experiemental part, Mo the minimalist drumming, Sterling the master guitar work. Other than that few seconds of guitar, I don't think there's much Beatles influence in their work. They stand head and shoulders above the Beatles.
+andyinoregon
Lou Reed and John Cale invented everything they did. No influence besides some doowop and free jazz.
Ha sure.
Eh...Lou Reed on guitar...
This makes me fart
Smelling good pal
and the traumatic brain injury occured...when?
Lo que no me gusta de Velvet Underground,ruido nada mas
I'm sorry, but my high school garage band was better than this. And I'm someone who bought The Velvet Underground & Nico when it came out in '67. I was 16.
So what happened?
Maybe your band was better when the VU were just screwing around. But I seriously doubt you and your pals came up with anything like "Sister Ray."
Then where are your hit records at bud?
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Amateurish .
This is so much better than the Beatles , they could only dream about this sound. The VU make it there own sound. Now you understand why Lou didn’t like the Beatles.
@simondeun9692
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John Lennon definitely could’ve done something similar to this. Matter of fact, check out Yoko Ono and John Lennon’s song “Why” off the Album Yoko Ono/Plastic Ono Band.
If you love The Velvets, this is heaven!