Citroën ë-C4 X - The Most Underrated EV! - (With A Bigger Battery Option Now!)
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- The ë-C4 was a surprise favourite of ours and now the bigger ë-C4 X has arrived (with batt upgrade options too!) then is it an even bigger winner?
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I've had an e-C4 for a little over a year after extensive research and absolutely love it. No significant criticisms, yet. Yes, the range is limited, but if you need greater range, don't buy it. I can do a week of commuting and still have about 80 miles left, so it suits my lifestyle, although the range does drop in cold weather. It is comfortable, a joy to drive, and I can get my wife's electric wheelchair in the boot (just!) and my granddaughter's child seat in the rear. Any niggles? Ummm... Oh, the wipers don't quite wipe far enough on the driver's side, and the voice control can be a bit hit and miss. Does it beat the MG4? Not for price, but it's more comfortable and has the HUD which is a great practical and safety feature.
I have an e c4 2023 model and I am very satisfied with it. As for the range, the range increases drastically if you drive in eco mode. It also consumes very little in the town and on winding open roads in B mode. I went on a 300km trip recently. my consumption with air conditioning was an incredible 12.4 kw/100km, average 89km/h. I arrived at my destination without charging and without problems.
I went to buy the Leaf one year ago (as my first ev) but came out with the eC4, I get on fine with it.
Last year on a range test in good weather I did a 190mile round trip with 12% left iirc averaging 4.6m/kw In ECO mode.
Lucky to get 3.6 in the winter.
The right had wiper stick has a button on the end which shows Battery %age on the through the wheel screen followed by two resettable trips. There is a similar button on the indicator stalk for a selection of customisations to the same screen.
The Slide out drawer about the glove box is to house your Tablet with the Citroën tablet mount that clips into the pop out holder above the drawer, tbh it gets used as extra storage. (But you knew that from the eC4 review ;-) )
I did fancy IONIC 5 or KIA EV6, but due to the addition few grand you pay for BEV I had to set my sights slightly lower.
I wasn't happy when the eC4 X came out not long after I got the eC4, as it appears to have a much better view out the rear when driving, and the additional boot space (I had changed from an estate)
I thought the same as you about the "B" mode, but that said if I had several to select from I would be mainly in the one that gives the most return. Yes I am a tight .... tighter than a true Yorkshire Man by the sounds of it, I am 1/4 Scot though.
Having heard your introduction...£7k more for the Mokka E...!! Are they joking... same underpinnings but smaller inside. E-C4 with its delux suspension every time!!!
I'm seeing a rapidly growing number of e-C4s in my locality here in central Scotland. Seems very good value for money by EV standards.
I’ve bought a few Citroens in the past - always 1-3 years old and Citroen approved warranty. The great thing is you can extend the warranty each year up to 100k miles from Citroen, it’s a good price, comprehensive and inclusive of breakdown cover. Second hand E-C4 low mileage are now under £20k from Citroen.
Great timing, guys - I spoke to Citroen this morning to arrange a test of the EC4X tomorrow. My only concern is getting stuff in through that boot opening, but other than that it will suit my needs perfectly.
I've got an ë-C4 for a year now, and I enjoy the comfort like you do. That was the biggest reason that I chose it. Range and efficency are actually not bad, and I hoped that you could test the new motor already to see the improvement.
btw. Percentage can be selected in presets, or press the button on the right stalk. DAB radio can be preset as default as well.
You should have tested the suspension with the 2CV egg test.
Opted for the eC4 as it ticked high in all the boxes for what was available at time of order.
My first ever Citroen I find it really comfortable, I love the looks, has lot of kit (Shine plus), roomy enough and currently in summer the economy is at 4.7.
Falls off a cliff on motorways in winter of course 😢
Would probably have gone for imho the less desirable MG4 if had been available, for the better range.
But I really do love the Citroen.
That's all, the rest is a rant! 🗣️😖
I'm in Ireland, so charging is a big challenge, all local journeying is fine but longer journeys are woeful.
Yesterday every charger in Monaghan was showing as engaged except a seven header at Circle K which showed 5 available.
They only built space for three vehicles! 😮 Two were charging and one was parked on the pad with no lead on and loads of parking bays available, waited 20mins and a destination charger came free at other side of town. Charged for an hour, got 26 miles.
Why install seven heads and only build pads for three cars!
That was one of the better trips.
ESB, Weev and others are promising more rapid chargers and newer replacement for older ones.
If they don't deliver this year, much as I don't want to go back, I'll be in a petrol C4 next year.
eC4 driver here.
i would avoid the normal petrol, they have proven to be very problematic across many models. reason is the timing belt running in oil, disintegrating itself into the oil pan and choking the oilpump with small fibres of it, leading to catastrophic engine failures. I would only buy the new hybrid e-dsc (mild hybrid 6sp dual clutch) if it should be petrol , try that, it should have a timing chain instead, which is proof they couldnt fix that problem.
Its sad, because its actually a cool engine. Has qood torque and a nice low rpm grunt. Some refer to them as mini V8s. Really good on fuel consumption also.
The diesel (4zyl 1.5) is a really good engine, the EAT8 is also really fitting the car.
i have driven every variant besides the new mild hybrid, in my opinion the BEV version is the best of them, its crazy how good the combination actually is if you free your mind about BEV is ICE discussions. And if you have the infrastructure of course. In Germany its actually fine today.
Then the diesel EAT8.
The petrol has its charm to be honest, but it requires excessive maintenance. Which defeates the whole purpose of that engine, cost effectiveness.
The new mild hybrid comes with a 6s dual clutch instead of the 8s auto which i have no experience with.
We absolutely adored our C4 Picasso (5 seat) ICE and would love a BEV version.
Really hate that carmakers have moved away from making MPVs like the Picasso! Really wish they would make an electric version of that.
@@ninjasrini we absolutely loved our 5 seater
I've had an eC4 for nearly 12 months. Very comfortable, range hasn't been an issue. It will easily achieve 3.9-4.2 mi/kwh in winter, 4.5 upwards in decent weather. Not sure why DAB and battery % couldn't be found because there is indeed DAB radio as standard and the battery % can also be displayed by going into the settings and selecting what the two customisable display options will show on the main driving display.
Tnx guys. Appreciate allround simple review with comparison to competition
I believe that since August 2020, all new cars sold in the UK with a radio must by law be able to receive DAB.
So presumably it is in there somewhere.
I listen to DAB in the car all the time. However, I've just spent a week in Cornwall & the reception was carp!! Glad to be back home & get some decent reception for my favourite station which is not on FM or any other wavelength.
Another great EV sold in Europe and the UK that is unavailable in the US. After Chevrolet stops producing the Bolt. The only EV remaing here under $30k is the base Leaf.
Another highly satisfied eC4 owner here, really recommend you try one if you’re looking at EV’s, the ride is something else and totally sold us on it. No regrets
Looks nice - shame about the back not opening like a real hatchback. Do the back seats fold flat? What's the max charging rate?
The hatchback eC4 is still available, at the same price. 100kw/h
Pity Stelantis didn’t go the extra mile by offering an estate version. Good ride quality + from for the dog(s) or young family pushchairs etc. A gap in the smaller EV
market that another version of this car could fill.
What would be your choice, new Citroen e-C4-X or secondhand iPace with 50,000+ miles ‘on the clock’ which as Jaguar approved used are selling for £27,000 to £30,000? One designed from the ground up as an EV and engineering masterpiece, the Jag, or a cobbled together converted ICE vehicle with some good twerks, the Citroen? I think I know my preference but would be interested in alternative views/experiences.
The new battery and more bhp started in the new Jeep. Stellantis have coppied it over to the Corsa, Astra, Mokka... so its logical that it crosses to all Stellantis vehicles in that category.
I have EC4 and think it’s great!
Easy and comfortable drive and family love it too
Keep up the great content
Believe that the bigger battery is in the Jeep Avenger (looks good) when it arrives, so should be standard across the group soon.
I seriously considered the e-C4 just before the launch of the e-C4 X as a replacement for the MG ZS (1st Gen 44 kWh) and I loved the comfort of the Flying Carpet suspension, but there were 2 reservations I had. 1st the steering was too vague for me. I guess it would be great in the city but not on rural roads, if only you could dial in a little more feel. 2nd was the range from a 50 kWh battery, but the new 54 kWh battery certainly would have made the difference and I would say that with an experience EV driver would get about 200+ miles real world and that for me is a real difference. I ended up going for a 2019 used low milage Tesla Standard Range Plus for £31k and that real world has a WLTP of 254 ie about 205/210 miles range on a long run and it is ample for UK trips having just done a round trip from Essex to Scotland.
Test for any car, is can I get a 2.4mtr length of wood or pipe, or a 6x4ft sheet o ply in it ?
A Great Review. I had a Citroen C4 Coupe which was quirky and uncommon. I loved it in spite of all the reliability issues, and was devastated when I eventually had to replace it. I had three other Citroens previously so was hoping to get the new C4. In the showroom the new C4 looked okay but I was not convinced. When I see on on the road, the proportions just don't look right, it looks odd, and no matter how much I try, I just can't bring my self to like it. So, I then considered a DS 4 - nice but too much bling and fussy in design. I would not consider another brand in the Stellantis Group so with a heavy heart, I no longer drive a Citroen. I've gone to the other side - Volkswagen Group but very happy with my new electric car.
I hope you two get the BYD Dolphin in to review. I'd love to know how it compares on comfort, efficiency and general tech.
In winter the range drops significatly, like here in Finland the winter range is half what it is in summer. And because it doesn't have battery preheater, it also lacks charging speed in winter. Except that, it's a nice car.
One aspect that these days will cut short ownership of a used fuel car, is when the electrics start failing and playing up enough for it to fail the MOT. Seeing as electric cars are even more stuffed full of things electrical, I wonder what their reliability or shelf life will be once things begin failing?
I had a deposit on an MG4 but upon inspection I thought that the FIT & FINISH was cheap. So i withdraw my deposit. As it so happens i leased an E-C4 as a standby whilst deciding what to buy. I still have the E-C4 and I agree 100% .... it is underrated. Great fit and finish. Great suspension. Spacious. Adequate power & range....for £275/mth...!! Come on....Great value!!
hmm just looked at local dealer and this car is £449 a month???
I'm leasing one for 170 a month
@@shithead4767 You are leasing what?
@@shithead4767 Cost per month means nothing. I can lease an Ionic 5 tomorrow for £159 per month. Only 17k down & 45k end payment after two years 😂 Don't forget to tell us the small print.
Just got an e c4x on a 2 year lease £790 upfront and £270 a month okenite white metallic in max trim.
We've owned an e-c4 for the last year. It's quiet, comfortable and practical. Test drive one and you may be surprised. Incidentally if you press the end of the wiper stalk you get range percentage and m/kwh information. Simple.
You can also go into the radio and configure the data that appears for the Personal 1 and Personal 2 options on the stalk. Or, you can on the Shine Plus which also has TomTom navigation.
My wife has a DS3. It is very comfortable, nippy, nice to drive. The one thing that Citroen/DS are not good at is smartphone apps. The app for the DS3 is awful. Continuing taps to refresh, at times I give up. Limited information. Preheating or cooling of the car interior before driving off is frustrating, we don’t bother using it anymore. 2 things need attention to improve their car’s appeal, as mentioned the App and range calculation.
I loved it when I tested drove it, the suspension is amazing but it dropped 30 miles of range as soon as I took it on the motorway and its the only EV I have ever driven where I had to activate sports setting to overtake...
I've had the eC4 for four months. It's a great car. Disappointed with the U.I. on the infotainment system g it can get laggy & it froze up last week.
And just to confirm, there is no option to have the battery % on the screen!
Above the glove box, when you had the 2nd level out, there's also a 3rd that pops out to place a phone or a tablet on.
Definitely does have DAB+ Digital radio. It's buried in the sources menu. I've got it active but switching back to FM sends you digging.
It's strange it doesn't have navigation. The eC4 does.
I want a secondhand eC4 hatch I think. More space, charge speed and comfort than my Zoe, and a tiny bit more range. If I could get one for a 10k cost to change. I'd jump at it.
I can't understand it's unpopularity, frankly it's by far the prettiest of it's ilk and as a tall person it's the only one I can get a decent driving position in - the steering wheel is too low on the Corsa and the Pug.
I like the coupe looks of the E-C4.
For me as much as I liked it the ec4, the range was the issue , my test was at the end of the winter with still snow on the ground it was minus 2 and the battery with everything on showed just 150 miles in sumner I have no doubt it will be a 170 mole model but with the nearest charger 20miles away from where I live, and why they can’t move the fuse box under the bonnet with so much room is daft in a way I felt like I was in a bigger Zoe , further more due to the parts issue if I wanted one at the time it wouldn’t arrive till 8 months later, no no
Ok, after watching this video, I bought the E-C4, hatchback, 22 plate, shine plus trim, 18k miles, for £14,999. The absolut best investment of my life. It is miles better then the Ioniq, I absolutely love this Citroen. Thank you very much❤
The e-c4 is a joy to drive. Definitely a smaller car, but has a higher driving position if you want. Economy mode genuinely increases range dramatically in this EV. You can get a £6000 discount off a new one or good second hand value. New Kona and Ford Explorer nice but so expensive. Will be even better with the upcoming bigger battery. What are you going to do with your Chinese car when America starts sanctioning?
The 308/4008 has a large glove box, so I hope this filters through to the rest of the group's cars. Also, love to Spigen, they make some cracking phone cases.
The 208 doesn't drive the same as the Corsa though, does it? I doubt there's a large difference, but I hear that the 208 handles better and is more comfortable whereas the Corsa feels sportier.
Still too small battery, should have been 60kwh and with lfp.
Stellantis should have just bought blade batteries from byd.
Here in Norway the c4 and peugeot 2008 cost the same same with the mokka.
I ❤️ my e2008 GT and will curtain lay be looking at the MG in two or three years but the market will have changed by then!
My 2017 c4 cactus has DAB and sat nav so weird that they’ve not included it in this one. Unless it’s hidden behind a subscription which would suck.
It has a place I think but wasn’t that aware of it as video suggests and actually think the interior looks like something from 20yrs ago. Shows how much MG are progressing to be able to do MG4 for thousands less and it look a bit nicer. Plus MG5 older shape would prob be similar in interior finish but maybe better value.
I like the fact the roof is not black like other cars in the group.
I don't care for this body style, I want Citroen to create an ë-C4T estate. something that isn't an outright SUV more of a rough roads wagon, like Volvo V60 Cross Country
100% agree - its a terrific car for the price and the only one of the Stelantis Group cars that I recommend to others. If you really can get a used one for under £20k then thats an absolute STEAL.
Worth remembering that the 39kWh Kona won’t charge faster than 44kW at peak (and that peak isn’t very long)
Used EV's are the way to go IMO for those using their own cash. New EV prices are stupid &, as you say, the depreciation on some models is savage which makes a used buy the smart move. I prefer the EC4 hatch over the X saloon for the additional practicality if not the volume of the boot. That said I'm looking to bag a current facelift 64kW Kona when the new Kona model comes out.
I've seen some crazy prices on Ionic 5s. 10k on the clock for £29,000
@@IanMcc1000 I'd be tempted except the Iconic 5 is too big for what we need. I've seen a 71 plate Kona 64kW Ultimate with 10k for £24k. I'm hoping that when the new Kona breaks cover then the price of the current face lifted Kona models will drop even further.
I'd go for a Kona too largely because sadly the Ioniq costs more and the Kona has more range whilst being cheaper
Either that or the Kia e-niro. The Kia is automatically compatible with Octopus intelligent.
I hear that GivEnergy and Zappi are working on getting "compliant" with Octopus intelligent too
@@waqasahmed939 Interesting. I have a Zappi but no EV yet.
@@colingoode3702 How come you've got an EV charger without first buying an EV?
Or is it a case of simply having the ability to charge before buying a car and then you're ready to go so to speak?
I don't have an EV but I'm personally waiting on the GivEnergy charger anyway largely because it helps if you've got one system where all parts talk to each other
Small 50KWh battery for car this size
You missed MG ZS EV long range which is about the same price
Interesting that your E-C4 X doesn't have satnav ... it also doesn't have wireless charging. Yet my E-C4 has both. The tray above the glovebox is to hold a Tablet. The tablet holder is just above the tray. So that you can sit and watch your tablet whilst parked.....charging.
I had a C4 Grand Picasso with center display, so it was no problem switching to a Tesla Model Y, there is a huge difference between their suspension and acceleration, literally two different continents
Percentage battery charge shows by pressing right steering stick.
The E-C4 is a nice car, sensible size, nice interior. But like all the Stellantis cars, it’s lumbered with a battery that is at least 10kWh too small and a charge spread that is 50kW too slow. Their EV specifications would have been be OK in 2018, now they are just outdated - and far too much money for what they provide
What they should have done is develop an actual EV platform, rather than a comprised one that is designed for a fossil burner. They have multiple brands that should be using such a platform, but they just haven’t bothered and it shows
I had an old citroen petrol 08 c4and was most comfortable drive ever driven too
Could I please remind you, when you tested the MG4 you said the seats were soggy!! For me, you were being polite. They are dreadful. Space inside is less... My kids are tall and will NOT fit into the MG4 rear. Yet, they fit the Citroën. Plus the seats in the Citroën are another league. Aside from quality, comfort, fit & finish.... People need to look at the monthly payments. MG4 lease £338/mth....vs E-C4 lease £269..... Citroën easily wins.
There’s a reason there are cheap deals on leases. The MG4 has 50% more power, 34kW more peak charging power, 15.4kWh more battery capacity and 45 miles more motorway range. But those are just numbers, the MG4 is rear wheel drive and has a great chassis, suspension and steering set up, so get it on a country road and you can really enjoy every one of those 201hp. Sure, you can fit tall kids in the back of a an e-C4 , but I doubt it puts such a smile on your face in an S bend.
@Billy Heywood Leasing an MG4 is more expensive because the residuals are not good. Having owned a number of AMGs, Sports cars and professionally raced motorcycles for 9 years.... I know about enjoying a car on a country road.... For sure the MG4 would be better but I hate shite soft seats. So it would and did annoy me when I drove it. The Citroën is lacking in power but I have had some laughs in it at a serious pace and overtaken lines if cars. But I leased it as a standby until I get an EV6 GT.
@@mikadavies660 you'd overtake even more in an MG4 😉
The EV6 is a lovely car, the GT will be an absolute blast 🚀
@Billy Heywood Yes I agree... I went to the launch of the EV6 but something messed up my order... Months later I was too late and the waiting list was massive. So I decided on the GT model. So looking forward to 2024 when it arrives.
In light of the Astra prices, this seems an absolute bargain. Although, as you say, being a Citroën, let someone else take the depreciation and get it secondhand.
Bargain used car sums all of the Stellantis EVs up. E208 my favourite
Looks good - very much like a Polestar 2 rear end - also looks near identical dimensions to MG5, shame they didn't make estate version too. Out of curiosity, how does it compare to facelift MG5?
A "handbrake" is so old fashioned. The auto handbrake on our ID.3 works superbly and simply pressing P for park when ending a trip is so convenient and practical.
Proud owner of EC4 here, but I agree that EC4X looks even better!
The percentage shows on the mobile app on your phone ☎️
On a side note, I did read that the number of charging points was meant to double from 40k to 80k next year. If I can find the article I will link in. I know ... It's a very large jump...
I'm sorry but that drivers display is just not good enough I'm 2023 haha dunno how that got signed off!
Asa previous Citroen owner It’s OK but I’ll stick with my MG
Best looking Stellantis group car and I love that more sub £40,000 EV's are becoming available. Avoiding the so called luxury car tax is something I would love to do!
I have almost a year of my lease left on my Kia E Niro, so definately looking forward to more options when I look next year. It was great to meet you both at the Fully Charged show and thanks for spending time to chat.
Come back in 10 years when they've sorted out the infrastruture
😂😂 " Ex, because she has a larger rear end " 😂😂0:04
It's a good job that Citroën looks 'Citroëny',, really.... isn't it, EVM....!?
.... Or... people might think it wasn't a Citroën...
See.. that's the thing about car design language.....!
Would be perfect with a 64kWh LFP battery pack.
DAB dropped as "a thing" by all broadcasters in Ireland. Radio by internet is seen as a more realistic and economical option. Many mobile carriers offer unlimited data contracts, so no reason not to use this in the car, once you have 4g coverage. Moving on, when commenting on which car has what, you forgot to mention access to the national Tesla charger network. My own personal circumstances make the hatchback preferable, yet as always each to their own. Aura? No way, they are Cat. Better get the 2 year old Citroen hatch at 16k and enjoy it. Thanks for the video. £1000 for 9% extra battery, for 20 or so miles? Come on, make that standard. What a load of hydraulics, as you demonstrated.
Interesting - in the UK it's actually a legal requirement to have DAB if the car has a radio.
(I imagine for this car it is in a setting or menu or button etc somewhere.)
@@davidy7004 "Legal requirement"? Here I am, living in an over-regulated EU country according to Farage, yet no such requirement. Meanwhile, those living in GB ... Strange, indeed!
@@connclissmann6514 In 2020 (when the legislation was introduced) the UK was still essentially in the EU, and it seems to be implementing an EU rule.
One of the GOV UK pages I found says:
"Digital radio (sometimes known as DAB: digital audio broadcasting) is now very widely fitted to new cars, but there is still a small proportion of new cars where analogue radio is standard fit. In order to ensure that all consumers purchasing a new car can enjoy the many advantages of digital radio, article 113 of EU Directive 2018/1972 (PDF, 2.8MB) (the European Electronic Communications Code (EECC)) requires that all passenger vehicles with integrated radios first placed on the market after 21 December 2020 must be fitted with radios which are capable of receiving digital radio stations."
So (unless it's been repealed since) I believe it is also an EU rule which means all new cars (fitted with radios) after that point in the EU should also include DAB.
Which of course doesn't mean anyone has to *transmit* anything over DAB, but the radios in new cars should be capable of receiving it if they did.
Do you recommend your give energy installer
If so please forward me his website of number please
Thank you for your informative videos
The back end looks strange
It probably does have DAB, at 7:35 the screen shows FM-DAB Follow-up. I suspect to change to DAB you press RADIO FM on the top left of the radio screen. I have the eC4 hatch and the whole touchscreen is unintuitive. The Citroen website builder shows it's on the lowest model.
Surely the actual ‘feel’ of any ‘steer-by-wire’ car is non-existent. 🤔 Any perceived ‘feel’ must be artificially induced by software.
Agreed but some do it better than others
@@HarryEVM Gotta be better than mine then. Compared to the feel through a ‘real’ steering column, the road surface ‘feel’ on my EV is effectively nil. 🥴
lol the tray is for a tablet, and the top tray is a tablet holder.
It's a shame citroen didn't make this a fastback.
I've been driving long enough to remember when £30k would buy you a nice luxury car.... Now it doesn't even get you a Citroen with sat nav.....
@Retired Bore An electric Vauxhall Corsa costs £32k.... That's not inflation, that's overpriced.
Citroen is better than a luxury car.
@@kimmohietala5359 of course it is...... And lead is a precious metal compared to gold.
I just seen one for £18k ? Brand new
The video cuts would be so much better if you changed position, like on the bonnet and then the roof. You cannot judge looks with those clothes you wear. Does your partner not point this out?
Did you just say your ex has a bigger rear end?
Not 30k now , you can buy new from stallantis and you for 21k.
That's list price rather than achievable.
I still would rather have an MG vs a Citroën tbh
54 kwh battery, is heading in the right direction. Close, but no cigar…… Model 3 for the win!
However, yet another EV that isn't being released in Australia.
I read somewhere they are “considering” to bring it to Australia.
I love it but have 3 dogs...😢
You seem to have been given the absolute lowest level e-C4X there to not even have DAB! I've got a 21 e-C4 that has DAB.
Underrated?!
Overrated. maybe.
It's the same price as a tesla model 3, with far worse specs. Literally, you can get a long range model 3 with the money asked by citroen for this (top trim).
50.000euro Tesla model 3 lr awd ~500hp, 75kw net battery, 350-700km real world range (4.7m long)
48.000 euro Citroen ec4x ~150hp, 46Kw net battery, 195-410km real range (4.6m long)
And Model Y is not competitor, bigger. But for the sake of the argument, the base model y
47.000 euro Tesla Model Y ~300hp, 57kw net battery, 245-500km real world range, (almost 4.8m long)
Literally, Citroen (and all stelantis EVs are a scam. They should be 30% cheaper than their current retail price)
It’s about £10k cheaper than a Model 3 here. Not same league.
If only it was a hatchback...
Definitely can't agree with these guys when they say that the MG4 looks a hell of a lot better. To me, it resembles some of the toy cars my son used to play with 40 years ago. It's horrible!
I thought the #RenaultZoe was the most underrated BEV.
It came out a decade ago. It’s not a lifetime accolade.
And I think people are well aware of how good value it is.
Hello mate
What about the MG5 and ZS EV? MG5 is more efficient, more spacious, and with more range than this, and the top spec is £33k!
had a ec4 for the last year and half its total crap the range is crap worse in the winter at best i can get is 140 had no ends of problems with the satnav not working had the whole entainment system crash and had car at dealers for 8 days trying to fix it now just had a recall notice its the worse car i have ever had thankfully its going in october when i get a new car to replace this ec4, on a second note enjoy your vids but never watch the ones you do with you mate its like a little and large act dump your mate its not working no one won't to see 2 guys trying to out do each other
I would never get another car more so a EV that still has dated wired android auto and car play
This is wireless CarPlay.
Doesn't bother me - I never use it anyway!
Having wasted 35k on a new shitroen 8 years ago, i would never ever touch another one with a bargepole.
My Berlingo (dismal) is 12 now, and the main expense has just been a new cambelt. (disregarding fuel, of course!)
I've owned and driven various Citroën C3s for ten years now...they're great cars. NOTHING ever goes wrong...
... You have ONE dodgy one so, OBVIOUSLY that's means every single Citroen ever built since the dawn of time is complete rubbish!!!
Absolute classic reaction..!!
Yep, I had a Zara Picasso for twelve years, not an ounce of trouble; comfy, spacious and quite economical too. My main expense was also the, obligatory, cam belt after 10 years. I have had my C3 for 9 years and again Not one scintilla of trouble. Very economical, pokey and easy to manoeuvre. Have gone for a Kona for my transition into EVs.
@@geoffersvoiceofreason2534
I bought brand new 2015 c4 grand picasso, which was the new refresh I believe. It drove great and was very comfy and practical. However the reliability and customer service was horrendous.
Within a few years the seal on the engine oil dipstick failed spuing oil everywhere (a known fault). Then shortly after the altinator failed (again within 3 years). Car was off the road for over 6 months in citreons garage lockup cause citroen garage were clueless. Citroen hq were unhelpful either financially or in actually resolving issue. In the end it took a specialist car electronics garage to diagnose a faulty alternator connection from factory. New alternator and battery had to be replaced like for like at over £2000 (citroen specific parts) at my local mitsubishi garage, something citroen garage couldn't manage. My local citroen garage had ripped people off charging for work that was not carried out anyway so stopped using them after then.
I've had issues with tons of sensors, wing mirrors, indicators, electric handbrake etc etc. The electronic speedo dash failed twice requiring a new panel. The wheels were dangerously misaligned from factory so would have excessive wear on the inside of the front right tire ( I found that out after a blowout). The front left wheel rubbed on the arch when full lock After about 5 years a cylinder blew on the motorway ... again a £1500 bill. Within the 7 years we had the car I think AA had been called out at least 4 times, each time the AA slagged of the car/citroen for there reputation.
The car was serviced regularly at citroen for the first 3.5 years then at mitsubishi. None of the electric issues could be diagnosed or fixed. When we got rid last year there was only 93,000 miles on the clock with the gearbox on its last legs (again a known issue @90,000 miles).
There's probably more little things that I've forgotten, so no ... i would never touch one again especially a ev.
Every repair was out if my pocket even for known faults or within warranty. The only time I wasn't billed was for the faulty dipstick seal, the dashboard replacement and when the citroen garage left the handbrake off a van which then rolled downhill into the back of my car in their carpark.
Im awaiting a kia ev6 in a few weeks time.
I've had a 3 mitsubishi, a mazda, seat, fiat, vauxhall, Nissan ... none of which have excessive issues like citroen had. All the cars I've had have been new or pre-reg and I've kept until they died. Usually more than ten years ... and that's mainly cause I live on the coast so they rust quicker.
My local citroen dealer/garage is not where I bought the car. It arrived within pre existing Ford dealership 6 months after i bought the car and disappeared 3 or so years later. There was speciation that citroen themselves removed the franchise....
@@andymccabe6712 see above comment for what it's worth ...
Citroën C60 😆
I just hate how the design of these cars and rest of Citroen cars, they date really quick
I've owned Citroën for ten years now..... You're talking COMPLETE nonsense......!!!
The Leaf is a cracking car, I love mine. I don’t understand your utter dislike.
In new car territory, it’s very old. 12years+
Battery tech etc hasn’t moved on in that time.
lol