METRONIDAZOLE TREATMENT FOR DISCUS FISH - FLAGYL - Part 1 of the treatment
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
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METRONIDAZOLE TREATMENT FOR DISCUS FISH
In this video I will show you how I will try to treat a discus fish with metronidazole (FLAGYL).
This discus fish is the same one I treated a few months ago with Sera Flagellol.
He showed the same symptoms as last time, but this time I treated him in a hospital aquarium.
The medication I used was with metronidazole.
There are several methods of treatment with this medicine, but I used one that was not so aggressive to the fish, as this will not be the only treatment that it will do.
I had a treatment where I used 8mg / liter of metronidazole, every other day, with water changes every day.
On the days that I administered metronidazole I made a 35% water change and on the days that I did not administer medication, I made a 20% water change.
Since this medicine is for humans, I raised the water temperature to 34ºC to get as close as possible to the body temperature of humans.
I hope the fish gets better, and that this video will be useful for you to be able to help your fish ...
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WARNING:
IN THE VIDEO I INFORM THAT A DOSAGE YOU CAN MAKE WITH OTHER WATER VOLUMES IS 8mg/Liter.
THE CORRECT IS 12.5mg/Liter
SORRY FOR THIS LAPSE.
We just started flagyl treatment for our discus that became suddently very weak, hopefully it’ll recover like yours did! Many thanks!
Hello my friend!!!
It's a bummer when fish get sick. I hope you manage to treat your fish. 🙏🏻🍀🤞🏻
Good job 👍
@@sunnyandrews01 Thank you so much, my friend!!! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@@PSKaqua I need a suggestion from you. I am facing a big problem. The pH of my Discus tank is increasing even though I use 100% RO water. Before putting water in the tank, I take an empty bucket and put an air pump in the water and leave it for about 12 hours. Only water, air pump and an empty bucket and after 12 hours I add Seachem Discus buffer. For some time the pH comes between 6-7 but then on checking it again, it automatically reaches 8. The pH does not remain stable. I have tried everything but it is not becoming stable. This happens when I add air pump to the water. Without air pump, it remains perfectly fine.
Great job! He looks a lot better.
Hello K. Lo !!!
It is true, it already looks like the big fish he used to be.
Now he is still undergoing treatment (I will publish what I am doing) and at the same time I am trying to fatten him up.
Great video, extremely detailed information...love this video, many thanks! Enjoyed it.
Thank you very much my friend!!!
I am very happy that you liked it and it was helpful.
Great job buddy. Happy to see the fish recover. I would recommend seachem metroplex , seachem focus and seachem garlic guard if he’s taking feed. U can follow up the treatment with praziquantel subsequently. Just a suggestion.
Hello Josephine!!!
It is an excellent suggestion ... for the moment I will try to attack some parasites that I think are still bothering him. He has been eating, and since then I’ve been using metroplex and garlic guard in the food, I don’t have the focus. 👍🏻
He is really recovering very well. 🙏
@@fishsupplements8775 how would you plan to dose levamisole? I did research on it and apparently it is light sensitive and will not work unless the tank is completely blacked out
@@CHAISOICY Do I need to say that, dude? Quarantine tanks should be in a dim environment that does not receive much light. right?
Hope the best!
Hello Formaster, thank you very much !!!
A lot of hope ... 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Muito bom, boa recuperação! Vamos!
Muito obrigado Pedro!!!
Agora é continuar com os tratamentos e engordar o gajo... 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Great job bro
Did you have feeding the fish during the treatment cycle ?
Hello Zuhair!!! Thank you very much…
Yes, I fed him. As he didn't eat before the treatment, I gave him a few servings until he started to accept the food. From the moment he started eating I fed him several times a day food based on a lot of protein soaked in vitamins. It took about 3 days to start eating. Since then he has been eating very well and is getting fat again. 👍🏻
8mg per litter. "Do the math"? 80L x 8 equals 640mg or 0.64 grams? Tell me why one gram?
Hello my friend!!!
I really got the math wrong in the video, but mark it right away with a comment marked with the correction.
The recommended dosage and that I did was 1 gram for every 75/80 liters (1gr for 20 gallons).
In this case, the correct would be 12.5mg/liter and not 8mg/liter.
12.5mg x 80liters = 1000mg (1gram)
So the question of overdosing does not arise here, what I did was underdosing. 👍🏻
O MEDICAMENTO QUE MAIS USO ,,O FLAGYL....METRANIDAZOL ,,, MUITO MAIS EFICAZ METENDO JUNTO NA PAPA ,DEPOIS DE DESCONGELADA NA MINHA HUMILDE OPINIAO ... BOM TRABALHO RICARDO ABRAÇO...
Obrigado Carlos!!! É verdadeiramente um bom medicamento para os nossos discus. Um grande abraço. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks for the video :)I want to ask you a question...I am using this treatment on my goldfish now. The treatment worked. but my fish had black spots on its fins.. .Do you know why this happened?
Hello my friend!!!
I'm glad you liked the video and that it can help you.
I'm not sure what it could be, but it's not related to the treatment.
I've never had a goldfish before and I don't know much about them.
sorry…
@@PSKaqua no problem dude... i ended the treatment today and got it out of quarantine..because his stomach is no longer like a pine cone..thanks god..the black spot on the tail is gone too..unclear what happened..maybe because of stress...maybe the antibiotic was too much and the tail burned...just conjecture..both fish survived...that's the point..thank you again for your video...have a nice hobbies
@@PSKaqua My friend, I need your help urgently. I applied this antibiotic treatment to my fish twice. It gets better during treatment but when I put it back in the big tank it gets sick again. Now it's swelling like a big drum again. It's like he can't defecate without antibiotics. what should i do please help me🙏
I'm sorry to hear that you're facing this problem with your fish again.
It's possible that the environment in your large tank could be contributing to the recurring health problems. Make sure the water parameters are suitable for your fish species, including temperature, pH levels and filtration. Or there may even be something in the main tank that is re-infecting, creating a secondary infection.
Also, consider isolating the fish in a quarantine tank for a longer period of time after treatment, to monitor its progress before reintroducing it to the main tank.
@@PSKaqua i understand thank you very much. By the way, i would like to give one more information..there are two other fish in the large aquarium and they do not get sick...now what do you suggest me? Should i quarantine the sick fish 3 times? Right now its like a balloon again...and i am so tired:(
Should you treat your main display tank since it has hexamita as well
Hello my friend!!!
It depends... normally fish have hexamita and can live with it as long as they don't have a low immune system due to stress, poor feeding, etc...
I understand what you are saying and it has all logic, but I preferred to observe the others, after removing the fish to the hospital tank. The others were fine and kept well.
Good day sir.
Are you still feeding the discus every day during the treatment?
Hello my friend!
Sorry for the late reply...
In the initial phase of the treatment, I don't think it makes sense to feed them, because it will only worsen the quality of the water. When the treatment is over and they are already eating, yes, I think it will make sense, also because they need to get stronger.
Bro good afternoon dosage guide please.
Hello Yee!
First of all I apologize for the late reply.
The dosage is in the video, just apply it to your case. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Bonjour tu peux traduire en français merci
Bonjour mon ami... Je comprends, mais ce n'est pas facile. Je suis portugaise et j'écris déjà en anglais pour être mieux comprise par le plus grand nombre, mais je ne peux pas traduire dans toutes les langues.
Non ok je parlerez à un eleveur français
hi, on the other days did you give food too? ❤
Hello my friend!!!
The medication is very strong and the fish was weak.
Normally feeding at this time would only deteriorate the water and the fish wouldn't eat.
I only started trying to feed a week later. By then the medication had started to take effect and he had strength and an appetite.
@@PSKaqua i Will start today, thanks from Brazil! 👍
@@caiocesar4699 boa sorte!!! Espero que consigas recuperar o peixe.
Tem em atenção o comentário afixado que deixei. Há uma adenda à dosagem.
Grande abraço de Portugal. 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Can i use it with epsom salt ?
Hello my friend!!!
Sorry for the huge delay in responding. I've been a bit away from social media and the PSK aqua project, but I'm slowly making a comeback.
Responding to your comment, which I really appreciate, I don't think you should do it. They are different treatments and for different situations. Using them you would always be eliminating epson salt in the water changes from the metronidazole treatment. Not to mention the stress you could be putting on the fish.
Ich x can be use to control bacterial and fungal diseases caused by secondary infections
Hello Chai !!!
I do not know this product (ICH x), but I am undergoing a treatment to try to combat possible secondary infections. The video will come out soon. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@@PSKaqua hi !
it’s all good it’s mainly use to kill ICH, but it has Formaldehyde (
it looks like a good product ...
The treatment is already going well.
Practically need to put on weight to go to the main aquarium.
Where do you get these pills ?
Hi Andrew!!!
Flagyl is an antibiotic for humans and can be found in a pharmacy.
The active ingredient of the drug is metronidazole.
In Portugal you need a prescription to get it.
I cured mine but it keeps coming back its 3rd time maybe cause i only treated it for 5 days but did you feed while treatment?
Hi Thugster!!!
Possibly the 5 days was not enough to break the parasite cycle.
Although, in the treatment I did, I administered 5 doses, I spaced them out over the 10 days, which broke the cycle of new parasites.
Yes, I fed the discu with small portions of frozen food. The one he wouldn't eat, I vacuumed it up so as not to spoil the water. At first he wouldn't eat, but he started eating well from the 4th day of treatment.
@@PSKaqua thanks brother
Hi! I tried but after 10 days still no result. what should I do?
Hello my friend!!!
Sorry for the late reply. I hope you have reversed the situation with your fish.
What was the fish suffering from? Metronidazole in fish basically works for hexamita, not much else.
@@PSKaqua Hi! It's still alive..but it doesn't eat...It is a young Angel fish. Now It Is alone in an aquarium, 30 C.... I don't know what else I can do
@@virgitro732 I'm glad he's alive. 😃
Have you tried giving frozen food? Artemia, mysis, white or black larvae (not bloodworms)...
@@PSKaqua yes, with Brine shrimps...why not bloodworms?? 🤔🤔
@@virgitro732 Bloodworms have a very high pathogenic load.
there is that reputation on them, but I have checked that myself. There were times when I had sick fish and it always coincided with the administration of bloodworms in the previous days... I stopped giving them, and they stopped getting sick.
They love it and even make a "dead fish start eating", but in my experience, it is almost certain that the fish will get some pathogen...
this guy put too much water , causing needed more metro, 34° really too high temp for sick discus causing dry skin
Hello my friend!!!
I'm sorry, but I didn't understand anything you said.
However, I'll try to explain. The hospital tank is only 80 litres and the fish to be treated is an adult discus. If I lowered the water level, I'd lower the ratio of water to discus and I'd have a much greater degradation of the water.
Flagyl, as you know, is a drug developed for humans, and therefore designed to perform better at temperatures close to human temperature, i.e. 37°C.
High temperatures don't dry out fish skin, where did you get that idea?!!?!?!!?
By the way, this guy managed to cure the fish this way... how do you usually save them? 😉☺️
Since this medicine is for humans, I raised the water temperature to 34ºC to get as close as possible to the body temperature of humans.😂😂 Nonsense however parasites don't like this temp.
Hello my friend!!! 😀
I understand your skepticism about this topic, but it's not as absurd as you say it is...
Let's see: Body temperature can affect the absorption of medicines because it can alter the speed of digestion and the permeability of the gastrointestinal mucosa, which is where you want to act. For example, drugs that are more soluble in water are more easily absorbed at higher temperatures. As I want metronidazole to be as solubilized by water as possible, in order to be better absorbed by the fish, the temperature can be increased.
Of course, there is controversy, because by increasing the temperature, I can also increase the growth of malignant bacteria, but as you say very well, it can kill certain parasites that don't survive at high temperatures.
But just as I don't know if the drug is photo-sensitive, I prefer to be safe and turn off the light during treatment, in this case, I prefer to increase the temperature to give the treatment a better chance of being more effective. I don't know if it's necessary to increase the temperature with metronidazole, but I prefer to be safe, because I think it's logical.
Sorry for the long text, but I wanted to give my opinion. 😉
But if you can argue your point, I'd appreciate it, because nobody knows everything and I'd like to learn.
😊🤜🏻🤛🏻
Hello my friend!
I hope you are doing Great!
I've got flagyl 400 mg..
My question is, i have a quarantin tank that is 100 liters. How much of flagyl do i need on day 1 and on day 2 etc etc...
I suck at math 🙏🤣🤣🤣
Hello my friend!!!!
I am so sorry for the late reply!!! 🙁😕😕
@@PSKaqua My pills are 400mg each and not 100mg.. How many do i need for a 100 liters tank..
Hope you can answer me.
@@cashicashi4904 I misspelled it... I meant to write 400mg and not 100mg (I'll edit so as not to confuse) but the rest is fine.
Usually they talk about 1g/75liters (20 gallons).
1x100l/75g=1.3g
This being the case:
0.4g - 1 pill
1,3g - x
X = (1x1,3g) / 0,4g = 3,25 pills, i.e. 3 pills and 1/4.
@@PSKaqua So u mean 3pills and a quarter for every 100 liters?
Appreciate you taking your time 2 answering me 🙏🙏
Yes, that's it - 3 pills and a quarter of another.
You're welcome, it's a pleasure to be able to help. It's never taking time off for friends. I'm the one who apologizes for responding so late, but other than posting, I'm rare to come to social media. That's why sometimes I don't reply to comments right away.
Overdosage..
I guess the sponge should have been removed and only air stone to be put or else the sponge wud suck the medicine
Hello my friend.
I understand your question, but since the medicine is diluted in water, there won't be the problem of it being retained in the sponge to the point of affecting the treatment.