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Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa 2 Review - On road on Track | KNOX
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- Опубликовано: 13 янв 2022
- Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa 2 Review - On road on Track | KNOX
This is our review of the Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa 2.
Following a few tyre reviews we’ve done on the channel and as a result of people asking us to test them, I’ve spent the last 6 months riding on the Pirelli Diablo Rosso Corsa II tyres. Undoubtedly one of the most popular and best tyres for sportsbikes on the market, the Diablo Rosso Corsa 2 comes with high praise indeed!
In my time with the Diablo Rosso Corsa II tyres, I've ridden extensively on the road in all conditions and on 2 track days at Oulton Park and Donington Park. The Rosso Corsa 2 come as standard fitment on the Ducati Panigale V2 and Ducati Streetfighter V4s we tested recently on the channel. With all that experience, I now have a very good understanding of what the tyres are good at and where their limitations are. I also compare them to our previous tyre reviews of the Dunlop Sportsmart MK3 - • The best tyres for spo... and the Dunlop Sportsmart TT - • Dunlop Sportsmart TT -... .
You can see the official Pirelli website listing here - www.pirelli.com/tyres/en-ww/m....
In this video, Aaron was wearing the following:
On the road:
Knox Dual Pro Jacket - new for 2022 tba
Knox Urbane Pro MK2 - www.planet-knox.com/product/u...
Knox Richmond Jean MK2 - www.planet-knox.com/product/r...
Knox Handroid Pod MK4 - www.planet-knox.com/product/h...
Knox Dual Active Base Layers - www.planet-knox.com/category/...
On Track:
Knox Dual Active Base Layers - www.planet-knox.com/category/...
Knox Back Protector’s - www.planet-knox.com/category/...
Knox Armoured Shorts - www.planet-knox.com/category/...
Knox Handroid MKIV - www.planet-knox.com/product/h...
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I picked up a set of those and the shop sent me out the door with 27psi at the rear. They stuck really well but I could actually feel a lot of deflection in the tire. I went up to 30psi and then back to 29psi. I'm happy with them at my pace.
Today I installed Rosso Corsa 2 front and rear on my z900rs cafe. On the way home, I felt that the self-steering tendency was strong, and I felt a sense of difference compared to the previously installed tires. (I used a Metzeler m9rr in front and a z8 from the same company in the back). I wondered if this unique feeling was normal, so I asked an acquaintance who had used Rosso Corsa and told me not to worry. He said that when I get used to it, I will be very comfortable in the winding. I was curious about additional reviews, so I looked for this video.
Pirelli won't give pressure values because weather conditions will vary everywhere. If you're on a trackday in Spain, you might need 2 bar front and 2.2 rear, or lower. While on the Dutch Assen circuit, 2.3 and 2.5 would do. It's all a matter of preference and experience. Set the pressure for what it should be when warmed up. I keep a table for when I go out. Hot weather? Start with lower pressure, the tyres will get there. Colder weather? Bump the pressure a few notches. Write down what you like, what the weather was like. I have the Diablo Rosso 3 road tyres. When it's 18 to 20 degrees outside, 2.5 front, 2.9 rear. At 28 degrees, 2.2 front, 2.6 rear. Enjoy the ride!
Excellent points made. Especially the part on newer riders needlessly putting on more expensive tires. I just got up to a ninja 650 from a 125 and this tire feels like a great stepping ground for newbies. And for regions with lower grip you just drop 1 or 2 psi on each and you're good to go!
Great all round tyre. Used the Rosso 2 before, really impressed! Great review, look forward to the next one!
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I think the recommended track day tire pressures are determined by the motorcycle manufacturers.
For example. On page 230 of the 2020 Ducati Panigale V2 owner's manual, they recommend the following:
ROAD
Front: 36.26psi (2.5 bar)
Rear: 36.26psi (2.5 bar)
TRACK
Front: 33.36psi (2.3 bar)
Rear: 30.45psi (2.1 bar)
Page 190 - 192 even has recommendations for suspension adjustments for both road and track.
Thanks and maybe some manufacturers do, but these are aftermarket tyres. The tyre company needs to make the recommendation, just like they do with their track specific tyres. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Brilliant stuff. Appreciate a non biased view. Bit hard for a smaller channel, but for relevance, can you do comparisons to other tyres? Trying to decide what to go for is hard, as individually all the tyres are brilliant, but its how they compare to each other that I'm interested in at the moment. Great video though and thank you
Thanks William. Yes, we use plenty of tyres and hopefully I did a little comparison on what I've used, but of course not a full back to back test... maybe one day. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Love the Knox video reviews whether it's tyres,bikes or kit 👍
Thanks Rich, much more coming soon! Aaron Knox
i think there's no quick and easy answer to the "tire pressure" question, and not just with these but also with other tires. basically if you're a fast enough rider, 26 could potentially be too low and 30 could have been high if you're slow to work the tires to their optimal temps.
Can I use Supercorsa SP 120 on front and this Rosso Corsa II 190/50 on rear? For a 675?
Which do you think would perform better in cool temperatures on the street between the Corsa II and the Rosso IV? Which would warm up quicker under street riding conditions?
Both will be awesome with the Rosso IV more street and cold weather oriented. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Thank you for such an awesome review.
Glad it was helpful!
My first set of tyres , 1995 dunlop sportmax had recommended pressures of 36/42 , for a 140kg 2 Stoke with 33 bhp.
My current bike has avons, recommended pressures 36/42 for a 190kg 120 bhp bike.
Tyre pressures havent changed, its all subjective. How hard you brake, throttle control, weight, power.
Yeah maybe for the road, all the same, but in fairness, tyre pressure is pretty important on track as heat generated makes the air pressure higher and then you get reduced contact patch etc. 😀
@@KnoxArmour oh absolutely.
Are there any pressure figures for track day rubber?
Again, it will come down to trial and error.
I used to run Bridgestones with 28/30 on the road, just to get feedback and heat into them, sacrificed tyre longevity, but at least i could feel what was happening.
Hope you aren't reading the "max pressures" off the side of the tire. These are NOT the proper settings for most street and def not for track for most bikes.
Thanks for the advice. Will give them a try. My street triple came with super corsas. Thinking of doing my first track day and want tyres which are also good in the wet and cold.
Have fun! Aaron KNOX
Great review. I'm going to get these tire because I commute on my CBR and do track days in weekends. Let's see if it will be better than Dunlop Q3 - which I though did great on track.
This is how you do a rewiev of a tire.
Good work!
All other rewievs from sponserd events dosent say much, and likewise a dude riding along the countryside and rave about how grippy the tires are..
Again, good work! And I have a knox safety jacket, great stuff!
Many thanks, really appreciate the kind feedback! All the best, Aaron KNOX
Wonderful video. You have a wholesome review. If I had a bike dedicated for weekend and track I’d get these tires. I put in a lot of miles by daily riding so it’s as sporty as the s22 for me. Love the gixxer 750 k8/9 btw. Proper dream bike for me there!
Many thanks! Yes love the k8 gsxr 750. Yes it's now an old bike, but she rides incredible now with all the upgrades I've done and can still show a lot of new models a clean set of heels when ridden right. 😀 Aaron Knox
anyone could say something Pirelli Diablo Rosso 4 VS Michelin road 6? only road use
New studio looks cool :)
Because I ride a lot, and a lot of it in the wet (no tracks where I live), I've been running Angel GTs since they were introduced. I ride back roads at a brisk (but legal, obviously) pace and have been accused (unjustly) of almost reaching the top speed on my 1290 Super Duke R with those tires. I actually dished the sporty Metzelers that came with the SDR, as soon as I rode them in the rain. Perhaps I should give the Corso 2 a try!
Many thanks Paulo! Rosso corsa 2 definitely a good option for road on your superduke! Leave dark lines everywhere!! 😀😅
Good review but, I was hoping for some info on how the profiles compare with other choices on the market..
Any thoughts on the new diablo Rosso iV? Hard to find reviews on them.
No haven't run them yet. They are more road based than the rosso corsa 2, so will be awesome in cold and wet, but probably have the same limitations on track. Thanks Aaron Knox
I have them on my bike now (09 R1). The rosso IVs are awesome. They are super sticky, and are a bit more aggressive than the IIIs. They are not that great in cold weather. They come with a warning label saying do not operate under 45°F. When I first put them on I felt the bike wanting to lean. It was a strange feeling. It’s still cold up here in NJ so I know in warmer weather they will be great on the road.
Also would like to hear your thoughts on the Diablo Rosso corsa iv’s, debating getting those as my next set
Havent tried them yet. Sticking to Dunlop at the moment, the Sportsmart TT are awesome for road and track. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Great video. Good information and logic....
Many thanks Andy! Aaron Knox
Comparerison please these pirelli to Bridgestone bt016, Bridgestone s22, Michelle power2 pct, and sport touring tyres, will bt016 be good enough for me at £183 a set for fastish road riding very occasional track day
BT016 are terrible in comparison to these tyres and are quite an old tyre, there is a reason they're cheap now. Much better with a newer model like these. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Great review thanks mate
Many thanks!! Aaron KNOX
I been ridding on my second set on my upgrade zx14r, this man is right I really enjoy them alot pear with others iv ridden.
Line ups and exiting on hard execration right on the edge grip. Zero heat up-time, once one scrapped in.
I was thinking to try the new s22 dunlop set as hearing there having a hard time comparing the both other then with rossi 2 fall in quicker to corners then s22, I hearing with s22 as more control rounder control feel into corners but that's what they say.
I have no problems giving a great review of the rossi2.
Hy there I have a question anyone can help it would be great…. I have panigale v4s and he comes with diablo supercorsa sp or sc V3 it doesn’t meter those tires are good but I need two sets for the one season because they come new and maybe have 2mm profile maybe but also are some times when is not to much hot they just slide sometimes and do not like it at all because on the road I’m sometimes maybe too aggressive riding on knee all those stuffs but it doesn’t work well with those tires and they last short so … I’m thinking about Diablo Roso Corsa 2 or Diablo Roso 4 Corsa anyone know something about those tires, any help thx….
The Diablo Rosso Corsa 2 or new Rosso Corsa 4 will last longer and be better in cold conditions than SuperCorsa. However, on track, they wont be as good as Supercorsa. Hope that makes sense. Aaron KNOX
Great info,thks.
I'm riding a 790 duke on road no track at the moment what would be a recommended pressure for me to run ? Rosso 2 s
For road, just follow the manufacturer description, although from memory, i dropped the rear to about 38psi on the road as it felt better to me... but best to follow manufacturer recommendation. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Would you recommend these over Metzeler Sportec M9 RR, for Suzuki GSX 1000R 2016, but mainly for road use?
Hard as I havent personally tried the M9rr. But from experience, there isnt a lot on the road that can beat Sportsmart MK3 or these Rosso Corsa 2. Thanks Aaron KNOX
Great video mate, how do these compare to the sportsmart mk3? Went with those based on your last video review and they've been brilliant. Was interested to hear if you think these sway a little heavier to track riding with more grip on track over the sportsmart mk3? Cheers fella
Thanks Matt, that's great. I think the dunlops are probably a better overall tyre, although ive been really impressed with rosso corsa 2 in wet and cold and feel at road speeds is 2nd to none. But the rosso corsa 2 fall apart a bit on track when you go quick. If youre looking for better track performing road tyre, try the sportsmart TT which are simply awesome and not far off a race tyre performance. Hope that helps, Aaron Knox
@@KnoxArmour Nice cheers mate! I've been debating the sportsmart TT, but have reservations as needed them to tour Spain as well in April and wasn't sure if they'd manage the mileage as well as a few trackdays!
So if ur only gonna ride on the road. the best performing tires would be the fully dedicated road tires?
These are brilliant on the road! Aaron KNOX
just bought a ducati 899 and i ride on the road all year around no matter the weather as long as its above 35 fahrenheit . would you say its safe to use these tires? the guy i bought the bike from said the warm up time on them are horrible and recommended to get a different set of tires.
Hi, I've personally used the Rosso Corsa 2 in weather from 0c to 30c and they've been incredibly good on the road with almost no warm up time. What I am not sure about is whether in the USA if you get exactly the same compound as the UK as sometimes tyre companies change compounds for different markets. However, on the assumption that the compound is the same, they're great for low temperatures. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Thanks great content 🏍
Many thanks Roland! Aaron Knox
Lucky to get 4000kms out of a set on my Superduke.. time to try the new Rosso 4 corsa
That's the problem with a torque monster!! 😆
@@KnoxArmour 👍😂
Rosso 4 is the new rosso 3 but the rosso CORSA 2 is different
From the best to the worst you have
Supercorsa
Rosso CORSA 2
Rosso 4/3/2
@@biker1388 wrong, Rosso 4 corsa is the replacement for the Rosso corsa 2
Be Interested in What you think about Metzler M9RR, I used them on the track on my GSXR750 and really liked them with a 180/60 profile on back tyre no drop off over 3 sessions. I usually run SC1 slicks on my FIREBLADE .
Sounds great 👍 haven't tried m9rr yet.
Have the m9rr on my street triple 765RS and they are so much harder to turn in than the stock Pirelli it’s ridiculous, going back and getting a set of these Diablo Corsa 2
@@tomdwyer5695 What size and profile are you using on the back tyre?
@@colinpirie8403 just checked looks like they are 180/55 ZR17 for the metzler
Also, looking at your tires,the tread funnels the water to the inside of the tire.I would think you would want the tread to push the water outward. Please help before I mount mine
Yes, just need to follow the arrow on the side of the tyre which tells you which direction to mount it. Thanks, Aaron KNOX
Are the corso 2 better than the corso3?
What milage to expext please
How do they compare to the dunlop sportsmart tt ?
They don't compare to the Sportsmart TT on track, not stable enough and go to mush when riding hard. However, on the road, they give a bit more feeling than the Dunlop's which are a hard carcassed tyre and are possibly better in the wet. Hope that helps, Aaron KNOX
@@KnoxArmour thanks ive just installed a set of the dunlops on my 750 and thats exactly the info i wanted to hear 🙂
On a 2001 fazer1000
Perfect
Спасибо за обзор
Very dangerous body position!!! On this main FOTO
Not sure what you mean to be honest. Plenty of lean yes, but not dangerous.. Thanks, Aaron KNOX