I wish I was taught how precarious, unprecedented and informed by the christian sense of Good, the invention of the fundamental ideas of science were. Thanks for making our history come alive. It's hard for me to comprehend the true significance (to both the physical and psychological progress of humanity) of the greatest thinkers like bacon, pascal and nietzsche. Thanks for helping me map human existence so much more broadly and deeply than i otherwise would've.
Francis Bacon is often thought of as the father of modern science. He said that there are two books which we should read: One was the scriptures and the other was the book of nature.
Politics: "Divide to rule" That's exactly why I hate politics, as this implies, lies, deception, corruption. This vegetarian likes and approves of this Bacon ;-)
The same with a disproportionate response to that which can be sensed artificially, against that which cannot be proven, theorised about, or detected in any way. Also though, artificial sensors aren't limited to the ones we just happen to have evolved with. :)
Thank you. I enjoyed this high level overview. FB deserves a second video. To better understand him from one work is impossible. And one thing- did you really say- “pagan thinkers…”? 😂 Please tell me that was a joke.
Excellent. Thank you. Just a thought vis-a-vis 'humankind'... in learning more about Cicero recently it seems that the notion of Humanism stems from his longer range vision and ideas for democracy (that he clearly couldn't realise - for the Roman state - in his lifetime). He could see where the failings of democracy lay i.e. in the lack of quality education for all citizens.
Bacon is more sophisticated than to lead it to that happening, but I believe it indeed was present circumstances of his surroundings that lead his philosophy to American utilitarian/pragmatic philosophy
Could you do an study of the ideia of memes and how it's becoming a way of the youth to express themselves. Living experiencing this process is kinda bizarre. Because I'm aware of my shortcomings I'm too lazy to engage in this thought for too long
The Summa Theologica as late medieval ... Renaissance? What? (Aquinas was born 1225 died 1274). And "then" Bacon comes along? Well, the late medieval stuff happens first. E.g. Ockham.
NICHIREN Daishonin in the 13th century said the same thing in Japan. He said there's 3 proofs in Buddhism documentary proof, theoretical proof and actual proof. actual proof was real life benefits in your life if Buddhism works
What interesting how some people do not understand who was Francis Bacon. He was a Christian. In his own words: “To conclude, therefore, let no man upon a weak conceit of sobriety or an ill-applied moderation think or maintain that a man can search too far, or be too well studied in the book of God's word, or the book of God's works, divinity or philosophy; but rather let men endeavor an endless progress or proficience in both; only let men beware that they apply both to charity, and not to swelling; to use, and not to ostentation; and again, that they do not unwisely mingle or confound these learnings together.” ― Francis Bacon, The Oxford Francis Bacon IV: The Advancement of Learning
All empires, since humans have been 'owners' of a bit of land to cultivate, have lefe behind the same traces: if they conquered others, we want o be just as successful...PROBLEM!!! We do not learn to be ourselves regardsles of what others do...Yes, very tangled snd complicated, but greed is the bottom line and manipulation to control others...anyhow!!
@@properpolymath2097 Havana, Mexico City, Lima, Rio, and thirty other regions produced 10,000% more wealth than Jamestown. East India Company was an economic Joke compared to the Indies trade. You have been baby fed fake history from childhood. The Iberians and Germans are the heavy weights with 2,000 years of combat exploits. Followed by the French and English with 1,000 years of documented exploits.
Your understanding of the Catholic Church, their creation of the university, why St Thomas was a Saint and what he did, and other details are very reductive and need a little more study.
Yes britain is small but its not "British philosophy" as much as it is Anglo Saxon philosophy. Remember whether your Danish, British, German, Gaelic etc then you defend from Anglo-Saxon pagans. In WW1 & WW2 we created the "Anglo-american establishment" which is a coalition of nations w/ Anglo saxon heritage to dominate & enforce a 1 world government ran by an Anglo Saxon empire. You can find info on it from establishment figures such as Carroll Quigley here in the USA as well as Jaques Attali from France. Quigley being bill Clintons mentor & Atalli being one of the people behind Emanuel Macron.
I have to say,I've learnt far more from documentaries and even quotes from Russell,Huxley,Orwell,Wilde,Dawkins,Tacitus.Books are just too padded out for my attention span.
One of the major themes of 16th, 17th and 18th century European philosophy and enlightenment was the emphasis placed on human domination over nature and animals. Eminent folks like Descartes, Suarez, Spinoza, Newton, Bacon and Thomas Hobbes believed in the role of humans completing . This is strongly expounded in the works of . and Bacon's philosophy and treatises, over time came to define certain foundations of British expansionism, leading to the justification of colonization, scientific progress and industry. The irony of Francis Bacon's faith in the power of science, is exposed by his loyalty towards orthodox christian values. Divine What? That became the language of violence, racism, indoctrination, loot and plunder. From the onset of the industrial revolution, became indisputable (like organized religion) however remaining exhaustive and unstable. So much for Bacon and totally anthropocentric ideas...
The concept of “race” was created by utilitarian anglos working off of Charles Darwin, to which they used as a tool of the British empire to justify its imperialism.
Bacon came to Earth the first time with the 144000 Saints with the Great Lord Sanat Kumara the very Ancient of Days from Venus after the Great Rebellion in the Universe, he embodied also as St Joseph, Abraham, Merlin ,Christopher Columbus and Last as Count St Germain, if you people knew this ,you would like to know Francis
" Perhaps there are only three books which can be said to be really important. One is written by Aristotle. The name of the book is Organum. It means the first principle of wisdom. The second book is written by Bacon, who is the father of all modern science. His book's name is Novum Organum, new principle of wisdom. Aristotle is thought to be the father of Western logic, mathematics and related sciences, and Bacon is certainly the most important figure who has created the whole of science, the whole technology that has made the West strong, rich, affluent, healthy. And the third important book is Ouspensky's Tertium Organum, the third principle of wisdom. Lord Bacon, a great scientific mind, has written in his famous book, Novum Organum, that Pythagoras was a great fanatic. Now, this is utter nonsense. Bacon's book is really great; except for this one statement, the book is of immense value. It is said that there are three great books in the world. First is Aristotle's Organum - Organum means principle. The second is Bacon's Novum Organum - new principle. And third is Ouspensky's Tertium Organum - the third principle. And they ARE really great books, incomparable. In the West this is very significant. People go on writing books and books about whether Shakespeare ever existed or not. As if it makes any difference. The plays that Shakespeare wrote are so beautiful - why not look into the plays and love and enjoy them? This seems to be going astray to ask whether Shakespeare existed or not. And the problem arises because it is thought that Shakespeare was an uneducated man so how could he write such beautiful things? Have you ever known very educated men to write beautiful things? It is thought that it was not Shakespeare but Lord Bacon who was the real author. But I cannot trust this because I have read Lord Bacon's other books - they have nothing to compare with Shakespeare. Lord Bacon is just ordinary. He may have been a very learned man, he may have been a great scholar, but his books are ordinary, rubbish. Just because he is Lord Bacon and a very famous name, who is deceived? Have you ever heard the name of any book by Lord Bacon? Who is bothered? How could Lord Bacon write these Shakespearian plays? Under his name he has not written a single masterpiece so how could he write one under a pseudo-name? And if he can write such beautiful plays as the Shakespearian plays are, under a pseudo-name, then what was he doing when he was writing under his own name? It doesn't seem right. Thinking is like that - it goes on missing the whole point. If you really want to have any contact with reality, then thinking is not the bridge, it is the barrier. In only three hundred years science has touched great heights. And the reason? The reason is simple. The reason is that Bacon introduced experiment into the world of science. In just three hundred years so much has happened - it did not happen in three thousand years or even in thirty thousand years. It is because of one man, Bacon. He changed the whole course of science and the whole course of human consciousness just by creating a new door of experimentation. He said, "Speculation is not going to help. People have speculated down the ages and nothing has happened. They go on quarrelling about theories and those theories don't mean a thing." He introduced experiment. You will be surprised to know where Bacon got the idea of experiment from. You will not believe it! He got it from Sufism. He was a great reader of Sufi books, he was immensely interested in Sufi books, and from the Sufi ideas he got the idea that if experiment is the door to the inner world, why could it not be the door to the outer? Science owes much to Sufism because of this. If some day the right sources are searched for, then the real fathers of science will be the Sufis, not the Greek philosophers, Aristotle, Plato and others, no. They were all speculators. From where did the idea of experiment enter into the mind of Bacon? It entered from Sufism. He may have read this story or something else, but it entered from Sufism because Sufis are very insistent on experiment. And if religion is also going to grow, then experiment has to become its very foundation. Just as science has reached such a great height within such a small time limit - three hundred years - so religion can also have great possibilities if it becomes experimental. Religion has much to learn from Sufism. Sufism is the most essential religion - that's why I say it is existential, experimental, experiential."
Holy crap, a Wes Cecil upload!!
Your uploads are to me what Christmas presents are to a kid. Thank you
yet another incredible lecture. instantly made me track down the source material from my modest library. what a powerhouse of clarity
I wish I was taught how precarious, unprecedented and informed by the christian sense of Good, the invention of the fundamental ideas of science were.
Thanks for making our history come alive.
It's hard for me to comprehend the true significance (to both the physical and psychological progress of humanity) of the greatest thinkers like bacon, pascal and nietzsche.
Thanks for helping me map human existence so much more broadly and deeply than i otherwise would've.
Everybody loves Bacon
*Thomas Browne*
Thomas Browne is an English thinker/philosopher well worth a thorough treatment.
What a pleasant surprise! Thank you :)
Great commentary
Francis Bacon is often thought of as the father of modern science. He said that there are two books which we should read: One was the scriptures and the other was the book of nature.
Politics: "Divide to rule"
That's exactly why I hate politics, as this implies, lies, deception, corruption.
This vegetarian likes and approves of this Bacon ;-)
my third favorite guy with the last name bacon
This was great thanks 😊
The same with a disproportionate response to that which can be sensed artificially, against that which cannot be proven, theorised about, or detected in any way. Also though, artificial sensors aren't limited to the ones we just happen to have evolved with. :)
Thank you. I enjoyed this high level overview. FB deserves a second video. To better understand him from one work is impossible.
And one thing- did you really say- “pagan thinkers…”? 😂 Please tell me that was a joke.
Wonderful . Edifying 😊
Thanks
Excellent. Thank you. Just a thought vis-a-vis 'humankind'... in learning more about Cicero recently it seems that the notion of Humanism stems from his longer range vision and ideas for democracy (that he clearly couldn't realise - for the Roman state - in his lifetime). He could see where the failings of democracy lay i.e. in the lack of quality education for all citizens.
Surprised to see this new postmodern critical approach. Still, it is very interesting. Thanks for the upload. :)
Why attend to ideas on their own terms, and out of _their own_ presuppositions?
Dr. Andreas Sommer has a really interesting video on Bacon called "Francis Bacon and the Occult World of the Scientific Revolution"
It seems to me that Bacon’s conception of truth anticipates American pragmatism but I do not recall this being mentioned.
Bacon is more sophisticated than to lead it to that happening, but I believe it indeed was present circumstances of his surroundings that lead his philosophy to American utilitarian/pragmatic philosophy
Could you do an study of the ideia of memes and how it's becoming a way of the youth to express themselves.
Living experiencing this process is kinda bizarre. Because I'm aware of my shortcomings I'm too lazy to engage in this thought for too long
Great video, thank you very much , note to self(nts) watched 47:08
The Summa Theologica as late medieval ... Renaissance? What? (Aquinas was born 1225 died 1274). And "then" Bacon comes along? Well, the late medieval stuff happens first. E.g. Ockham.
Do you have any relation to Francis Bacon's cousin, Robert Cecil?
I guess the two most famous Francis Bacon in history have in common the radicality of their minds
Imperial and empirical.
NICHIREN Daishonin in the 13th century said the same thing in Japan. He said there's 3 proofs in Buddhism documentary proof, theoretical proof and actual proof. actual proof was real life benefits in your life if Buddhism works
Curious where Bacon got his ideas from
💚👑💚
He’s prompting invention
What interesting how some people do not understand who was Francis Bacon. He was a Christian. In his own words: “To conclude, therefore, let no man upon a weak conceit of sobriety or an ill-applied moderation think or maintain that a man can search too far, or be too well studied in the book of God's word, or the book of God's works, divinity or philosophy; but rather let men endeavor an endless progress or proficience in both; only let men beware that they apply both to charity, and not to swelling; to use, and not to ostentation; and again, that they do not unwisely mingle or confound these learnings together.”
― Francis Bacon, The Oxford Francis Bacon IV: The Advancement of Learning
All empires, since humans have been 'owners' of a bit of land to cultivate, have lefe behind the same traces: if they conquered others, we want o be just as successful...PROBLEM!!! We do not learn to be ourselves regardsles of what others do...Yes, very tangled snd complicated, but greed is the bottom line and manipulation to control others...anyhow!!
And this.
There was no such thing as a British Empire during Bacon’s life. England was a second tier power compared to Spain or France.
You've never heard of Jamestown? Or the East India Company? Maybe you could look into those and cross reference some dates.
@@properpolymath2097
Havana, Mexico City, Lima, Rio, and thirty other regions produced 10,000% more wealth than Jamestown.
East India Company was an economic Joke compared to the Indies trade.
You have been baby fed fake history from childhood.
The Iberians and Germans are the heavy weights with 2,000 years of combat exploits. Followed by the French and English with 1,000 years of documented exploits.
Your understanding of the Catholic Church, their creation of the university, why St Thomas was a Saint and what he did, and other details are very reductive and need a little more study.
Aquinas lived in the 13th century. You were off by 200 years
Yes britain is small but its not "British philosophy" as much as it is Anglo Saxon philosophy. Remember whether your Danish, British, German, Gaelic etc then you defend from Anglo-Saxon pagans. In WW1 & WW2 we created the "Anglo-american establishment" which is a coalition of nations w/ Anglo saxon heritage to dominate & enforce a 1 world government ran by an Anglo Saxon empire. You can find info on it from establishment figures such as Carroll Quigley here in the USA as well as Jaques Attali from France. Quigley being bill Clintons mentor & Atalli being one of the people behind Emanuel Macron.
I have to say,I've learnt far more from documentaries and even quotes from Russell,Huxley,Orwell,Wilde,Dawkins,Tacitus.Books are just too padded out for my attention span.
One of the major themes of 16th, 17th and 18th century European
philosophy and enlightenment was the emphasis placed on human domination
over nature and animals. Eminent folks like Descartes, Suarez, Spinoza,
Newton, Bacon and Thomas Hobbes believed in the role of humans completing .
This is strongly expounded in the works of . and Bacon's philosophy and treatises, over time came to define certain foundations of British expansionism, leading to the justification of colonization, scientific progress and industry. The irony of Francis Bacon's faith in the power of science, is exposed by his loyalty towards orthodox christian values. Divine What? That became the language of violence, racism, indoctrination, loot and plunder. From the onset of the industrial revolution, became indisputable (like organized religion) however remaining exhaustive and unstable. So much for Bacon and totally anthropocentric ideas...
The concept of “race” was created by utilitarian anglos working off of Charles Darwin, to which they used as a tool of the British empire to justify its imperialism.
Unscrupulous and Powerful people will use any philosophical inference to justify whatever they wish.
Bacon came to Earth the first time with the 144000 Saints with the Great Lord Sanat Kumara the very Ancient of Days from Venus after the Great Rebellion in the Universe, he embodied also as St Joseph, Abraham, Merlin ,Christopher Columbus and Last as Count St Germain, if you people knew this ,you would like to know Francis
144000 revelation 14:4👌🤣
" Perhaps there are only three books which can be said to be really important.
One is written by Aristotle. The name of the book is Organum. It means the first principle of wisdom.
The second book is written by Bacon, who is the father of all modern science. His book's name is Novum Organum, new principle of wisdom. Aristotle is thought to be the father of Western logic, mathematics and related sciences, and Bacon is certainly the most important figure who has created the whole of science, the whole technology that has made the West strong, rich, affluent, healthy.
And the third important book is Ouspensky's Tertium Organum, the third principle of wisdom.
Lord Bacon, a great scientific mind, has written in his famous book, Novum Organum, that Pythagoras was a great fanatic. Now, this is utter nonsense. Bacon's book is really great; except for this one statement, the book is of immense value. It is said that there are three great books in the world. First is Aristotle's Organum - Organum means principle. The second is Bacon's Novum Organum - new principle. And third is Ouspensky's Tertium Organum - the third principle. And they ARE really great books, incomparable.
In the West this is very significant. People go on writing books and books about whether Shakespeare ever existed or not. As if it makes any difference. The plays that Shakespeare wrote are so beautiful - why not look into the plays and love and enjoy them? This seems to be going astray to ask whether Shakespeare existed or not. And the problem arises because it is thought that Shakespeare was an uneducated man so how could he write such beautiful things? Have you ever known very educated men to write beautiful things?
It is thought that it was not Shakespeare but Lord Bacon who was the real author. But I cannot trust this because I have read Lord Bacon's other books - they have nothing to compare with Shakespeare. Lord Bacon is just ordinary. He may have been a very learned man, he may have been a great scholar, but his books are ordinary, rubbish. Just because he is Lord Bacon and a very famous name, who is deceived? Have you ever heard the name of any book by Lord Bacon? Who is bothered?
How could Lord Bacon write these Shakespearian plays? Under his name he has not written a single masterpiece so how could he write one under a pseudo-name? And if he can write such beautiful plays as the Shakespearian plays are, under a pseudo-name, then what was he doing when he was writing under his own name? It doesn't seem right.
Thinking is like that - it goes on missing the whole point. If you really want to have any contact with reality, then thinking is not the bridge, it is the barrier.
In only three hundred years science has touched great heights. And the reason? The reason is simple. The reason is that Bacon introduced experiment into the world of science. In just three hundred years so much has happened - it did not happen in three thousand years or even in thirty thousand years. It is because of one man, Bacon. He changed the whole course of science and the whole course of human consciousness just by creating a new door of experimentation.
He said, "Speculation is not going to help. People have speculated down the ages and nothing has happened. They go on quarrelling about theories and those theories don't mean a thing." He introduced experiment.
You will be surprised to know where Bacon got the idea of experiment from. You will not believe it! He got it from Sufism. He was a great reader of Sufi books, he was immensely interested in Sufi books, and from the Sufi ideas he got the idea that if experiment is the door to the inner world, why could it not be the door to the outer? Science owes much to Sufism because of this. If some day the right sources are searched for, then the real fathers of science will be the Sufis, not the Greek philosophers, Aristotle, Plato and others, no. They were all speculators.
From where did the idea of experiment enter into the mind of Bacon? It entered from Sufism. He may have read this story or something else, but it entered from Sufism because Sufis are very insistent on experiment. And if religion is also going to grow, then experiment has to become its very foundation. Just as science has reached such a great height within such a small time limit - three hundred years - so religion can also have great possibilities if it becomes experimental.
Religion has much to learn from Sufism. Sufism is the most essential religion - that's why I say it is existential, experimental, experiential."
Sorry to say this, but he's not as good without an audience.