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  • @tahajbara2024
    @tahajbara2024 2 года назад +80

    Gee Gus really did a good job illustrating how clubs should approach this management process

    • @angeerkihun
      @angeerkihun 2 года назад

      No he didn't. You should look at the AFL - they have a list managers who are specialists in managing the cap.

    • @simonextra9689
      @simonextra9689 2 года назад

      Agreed.

    • @bernyoz
      @bernyoz Год назад

      Basically he is saying you can’t payer overs for anyone

  • @aaronhicks3587
    @aaronhicks3587 2 года назад +42

    Gus really showed his knowledge here. Wow that was insightful. Makes me believe my newcastle knights are not juggling the cap intelligently

  • @heftyynookx
    @heftyynookx 2 года назад +26

    Fifita enjoying his pay check on the bench🤣🤣

    • @MrLincoln87
      @MrLincoln87 2 года назад +1

      Same with Haas

    • @dylanpearson8548
      @dylanpearson8548 2 года назад +7

      Haas??? he legit plays like 70 mins every game when he starts. Insane value for money from the broncos standpoint

    • @heftyynookx
      @heftyynookx 2 года назад +2

      @@MrLincoln87 he usually plays 70-80 mins but he’s been going through a shoulder problem so he’s only been playing like half a game

  • @Rambo-lv9hu
    @Rambo-lv9hu 2 года назад +18

    Last 10 seconds of Gus, PRICELESS!

  • @healthymindhealthybody9692
    @healthymindhealthybody9692 2 года назад +15

    To play for the Money and probably never win a premiership or
    Play for a premiership for less money with a team that has a big grass roots ie: Broncos/Panthers/Tigers/Raiders/Dogs. Forget where some of these clubs are running on the ladder

  • @crazyprayingmantis5596
    @crazyprayingmantis5596 2 года назад +26

    A Fifita on $850k 🤣
    He plays about 35 mins off the bench

    • @6t7ghost
      @6t7ghost 2 года назад

      You’re laughing about a young man being on $850k 😂 your wage is penny stocks to him

    • @crazyprayingmantis5596
      @crazyprayingmantis5596 2 года назад +11

      @@6t7ghost
      I'm laughing that a club is paying Fifita 850k for 35mins off the bench, good on him, but I'm laughing at the club.
      And you have no idea how much I earn champ, I don't earn a "wage" that's for sure

    • @6t7ghost
      @6t7ghost 2 года назад

      @@crazyprayingmantis5596 righto buddy

    • @aross8509
      @aross8509 2 года назад +3

      @@6t7ghost think you misinterpreted his comment mate ahahahhaahah

    • @6t7ghost
      @6t7ghost 2 года назад

      @@aross8509 ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahgahahahahahahahahaha

  • @jackohere1878
    @jackohere1878 2 года назад +52

    I don't "get" why dummy halfs are not worth far more.
    A top dummy half like Grant or Koroisau should be on at least almost as much as top halfs and FBs.
    A team with out a decent dummy half will struggle no matter how good others in the spine are.

    • @jacobmurphy423
      @jacobmurphy423 2 года назад

      Yeah but sometimes you have guys like those two that are on unders so they have a better chance of keeping their best players

    • @jackohere1878
      @jackohere1878 2 года назад +2

      @@jacobmurphy423 True but why should a top dummy half accept big "unders" so others get the top money ?
      If Grant isn't on near 900K with his new deal he should have moved to Dolphins or even Broncs who would pay him that.Hell put Grant in the Broncs side right now and they would fly into the top 8.According to reports Broncs are looking at Munster who will cost them a million per season yet Grant would have had just as big an impact (maybe more).
      For me dummy half is a crucial position often under valued by most.

    • @crazyprayingmantis5596
      @crazyprayingmantis5596 2 года назад

      Most important player on the field other than 7 and 1

    • @vikingbear1487
      @vikingbear1487 2 года назад +1

      @@jackohere1878 They accept 'unders' to be at a good club and have a chance of premeirship

    • @Mr4thQTR
      @Mr4thQTR 2 года назад +2

      I think Gal was right in saying a lot of the top shelf hookers are quite young or on an expiring contract. Brailey brothers, Mahoney, Grant, Smith are all going to be on bigger contracts within the next year or 2. Cook and Koroisau were the real surprises there. Api has obviously bought into the take unders to win the comp rhetoric and it's worked but I would've thought Cook would be around the $800,000 mark.

  • @1crans1
    @1crans1 2 года назад +3

    Gus at his best ..... brutal and honest

  • @jojohehe3251
    @jojohehe3251 2 года назад +4

    So, clearly, developing your own players is the key. You get them in their first breakout contract, then you get them for the intermediate, then they graduate to the elite tier. They are elite the whole time, but you get them for unders because they are loyal.
    Unless, of course, it's Ash Taylor, David Fifita, Jaydn Su'A and guys like that. Broncos love to find and lose good players. The Tigers must just about have a full NRL squad playing for other teams, too.

  • @mrfryfilmguy
    @mrfryfilmguy 2 года назад +7

    Haha, the Knights are stuck with Ponga til 2027!

  • @DK-ex6bf
    @DK-ex6bf 2 года назад +4

    Ponga is on way too much money when he's not even top 5 fullbacks in Nrl. 🤦‍♀️

  • @chrisrobinson8784
    @chrisrobinson8784 2 года назад +4

    It doesn't matter if you think there worth it or not, fact is there's always a bottom half team that will pay over market value, Pappy and Latrell will both look at ponga's contract next extension and ask for more and as they should. Happens all the time in the NFL

  • @bennyharnah524
    @bennyharnah524 2 года назад +2

    This how I think when I’m choosing players on nrl fantasy

  • @warriorskarena4567
    @warriorskarena4567 2 года назад +3

    Wow the warriors must have alot of money they are holding on to. Hope the merch money they get can get them some more decent players

    • @mikethebreeze
      @mikethebreeze Год назад

      They throw their money away on scumbags like Matt Lodge, recruiting officers like osullivan and directors like gus who all just come to rip us off

  • @tahajbara2024
    @tahajbara2024 2 года назад +12

    How the hell does the Storm keep that many superstars within the one salary cap. Something smells fishy......it's 2009 all over again

    • @ryderoreilly9807
      @ryderoreilly9807 2 года назад +4

      Secret third party agreements paid in cash would be my bet.

    • @cchaps2483
      @cchaps2483 2 года назад +15

      Contract signings before they got to their current market value. Not hard to understand.

    • @neff6477
      @neff6477 2 года назад +5

      Player development

    • @steverenfrew5223
      @steverenfrew5223 2 года назад +7

      Mate!They sign no names!And turn them into NRL players,before Xavier Coates!The last rep player we signed was Mick Corker
      over ten years ago🤷🏻‍♀️We don’t buy premierships like the roosters over the last 6 years! We have given away in the last 12 years more rep players than any of their clubs! We have the best system in the game than anyone,and every one knows it!

    • @ARandomGuy24
      @ARandomGuy24 2 года назад

      Munster's leaving because of the rest of them are going to be on too much mate.

  • @jasonmark6942
    @jasonmark6942 2 года назад

    Wow Gus is just full of knowledge on how to manage a football team

  • @Greenfield-yf1wh
    @Greenfield-yf1wh 2 года назад +2

    It is not a fair competition when the Storm could just re-sign their best players very cheap. Papenhuyzen is a $600k/yr contract and Harry Grant is paid $550,000 a year. How on the earth the team like the Knights could compete when they are obliged to pay Ponga $1m per yr? It is hopeless.

    • @ARandomGuy24
      @ARandomGuy24 2 года назад +2

      That's on their current contract. When they re-sign they're going to get more. There's a reason Munster is getting pushed out and that reason is what the rest of the spine players will be getting.

    • @Greenfield-yf1wh
      @Greenfield-yf1wh 2 года назад +1

      @@ARandomGuy24 What are you talking about? Both Paps and Grant have recently re-signed with the Storm. No player at the Storm is paid $1m a year except Munster.

    • @ARandomGuy24
      @ARandomGuy24 2 года назад +1

      ​@@Greenfield-yf1wh There's a difference between when my current contract runs out my next contract will kick in and I'll get an upgrade and I'll get an upgrade immediately.
      Like on Zero tackle it has Hughes getting paid 700K this year and 900K next year.

    • @SilentHotdog28
      @SilentHotdog28 2 года назад +1

      It's unfortunately always going to be like that, Storm is a club that players will play at for less because it is a dominant club, like the Roosters, Rabbits and Panthers (as of late) Whereas struggling clubs like the Knights only have money to offer. Of course every player has their own mindset, some would rather just play for the cash and that is it, some would rather chase premierships at a heavy cost to their own income, some players early on chase premierships, but later on chase money......it is different for everyone. Some players can be swayed, others can't.

  • @officialnuts1857
    @officialnuts1857 2 года назад +1

    Any member of the Under 21 Melbourne storm team is worth more than Ponga

  • @linghy.684
    @linghy.684 2 года назад +3

    Don't understand how David Fifita is on 1 mil and Payne Hass is not it baffles me

    • @tevitateulilo7573
      @tevitateulilo7573 2 года назад +1

      It’s the titans fault for offering Fifita a mill, I don’t think there’s a team willing to pay 1mil for a prop it just doesn’t sit right with most.

  • @monsta5880
    @monsta5880 2 года назад +3

    Cameron smith to come out of retirement to play for dolphins

  • @bobmerley605
    @bobmerley605 2 года назад

    The props on the big money are getting double what they are worth atm.

  • @jeremygziji9186
    @jeremygziji9186 Год назад +1

    Luke Brooks has the greatest agent there is

  • @tribalevents9640
    @tribalevents9640 2 года назад

    Gus at his best 👏🏾👏🏾

  • @samrainima9111
    @samrainima9111 2 года назад +2

    No wonder Hass wants out😂

  • @Username-ze1ux
    @Username-ze1ux 2 года назад

    Wow that was a good break down

  • @brendenmalzard3269
    @brendenmalzard3269 2 года назад +2

    Valentine Holmes doesn't play fullback

    • @SilentHotdog28
      @SilentHotdog28 2 года назад

      Isn't he playing as a utility at NQC? I think he played a couple of games at fullback this season.

  • @sonnyasmr7143
    @sonnyasmr7143 2 года назад +6

    Fact is the salary cap is supposed to make for an even competition but the Storm and Panthers are absolutely miles ahead of everyone else and will be for another decade plus

    • @SilentHotdog28
      @SilentHotdog28 2 года назад +8

      Panthers and Storm are 2 different cases. Panthers developed their own kids and they are all loyal to the club so will play for less, plus they are now a good club and have won a premiership. Storm get some juniors from their feeder clubs, but also get 'leftovers' from other clubs and develop them, for instance: Ryan Papenhuyzen, Josh Addo Carr, Cameron Munster, Jahrome Hughes.....Were all players that other clubs didn't want, Storm gave them a chance and of course a player will play for less at Storm when 1. they get a chance there where they don't anywhere else, 2. they get to play for an elite club with a winning culture. (Roosters (and to a degree Rabbits) would be in that boat too). It never will be even, most players will play for less at a good club, especially if that club gave them a chance and/or developed them, closeness to home does play a factor too.

  • @hoggers7572
    @hoggers7572 2 года назад +13

    How the cap works..cheat and don't get caught

  • @deanryan1978
    @deanryan1978 2 года назад +2

    Yes most clubs handle it well by lying and under the table payments…

    • @SilentHotdog28
      @SilentHotdog28 2 года назад

      Or just being a good club. Where would you rather go? A club that is paying you more but is unlikely to win a premiership, or a club that is paying you less but is very likely to win a premiership?

    • @deanryan1978
      @deanryan1978 2 года назад

      @@SilentHotdog28 correct but that’s not really a response to my comment

  • @mrfryfilmguy
    @mrfryfilmguy 2 года назад +3

    5:35 I didn't realise Josh Hodgson is going to the Eels. Interesting..

    • @adamgcampbell98
      @adamgcampbell98 2 года назад +2

      Signing players years past their prime is a classic eels move

    • @damianperera2690
      @damianperera2690 2 года назад

      Hodgson is average at best, makes too many mistakes, gutted we're getting an average player and Reid Mahoney is going.

  • @LukeParker-wk5rv
    @LukeParker-wk5rv Год назад

    Munster at storm until 2030!

  • @toddnelson7926
    @toddnelson7926 2 года назад +1

    The NRL salary cap is an absolute joke, Adam Reynolds who is an South Sydney junior and long serving player should have been heavily discounted under the Rabbitohs salary cap.
    Other players like Tom and Jake Trbojevic (Manly), Victor Radley (Roosters) and most of Penriths NRL squad should be rewarded for nurturing local junior players to NRL level.
    Yet the NRL would prefer clubs to just poach players from clubs that have developed them.

    • @jojohehe3251
      @jojohehe3251 2 года назад +1

      The point of the salary cap is to force teams to share talent. If it is meant to have another goal, such as letting Souffs fans keep their favourites forever, then sure, they need to change the system to keep toothless spoons happy.

    • @toddnelson7926
      @toddnelson7926 2 года назад +1

      @@jojohehe3251 not just Souths but Penrith etc, if teams develop juniors that make NRL level shouldn't they then be rewarded ?, without juniors there is no rugby league so kudos to the clubs that are actually able to do this than the clubs doing nothing and waiting to swoop on other clubs hard work.
      By the way I don't support either Souths, Penrith or Manly, I'm an old Bears fan who just follows rugby league in general.

    • @themanwithnothingtolose
      @themanwithnothingtolose Год назад +1

      Yes agree with you, that's why most of our talent is leaving to rugby Union. Thats where all the money is at

  • @JWIA67
    @JWIA67 2 года назад +3

    No player is worth any of the figures provided

  • @user-pj9gu7fn1d
    @user-pj9gu7fn1d 11 месяцев назад

    This is why we trust in Gus ! Go the dogs

  • @donnyazoff980
    @donnyazoff980 2 года назад +11

    Must be nice for the Roosters not having to worry about managing a salary cap.

  • @lamabros4710
    @lamabros4710 2 года назад

    Still Not enough money

  • @AARON-69
    @AARON-69 2 года назад

    Should be 10 million
    Easier to manage
    9 and half random

  • @jitbetripping2953
    @jitbetripping2953 2 года назад

    The sharks have Andrew Fifita at 850,000$ and he’s sitting on the bench most of the game ? What a waste of $$$

  • @mitchellandrews984
    @mitchellandrews984 2 года назад

    And for not what to do google Des Hasler

  • @AJWRAJWR
    @AJWRAJWR 2 года назад +4

    Tevita Pangai's gotta be the most overpaid for sure.

  • @bingchiuyuen6816
    @bingchiuyuen6816 Год назад

    The more Doggies spent to sign players , it’s much more harder to get the Free games & Jackpots from the Pokies, haha! Think it over before inserting the bloody notes.

  • @mikethebreeze
    @mikethebreeze Год назад +1

    One good hit and Pongas career is over

  • @DowMaiAAAAA
    @DowMaiAAAAA 2 года назад

    Just up the fuckn budget

  • @TwoHemiViewer
    @TwoHemiViewer 2 года назад +2

    Can the producer's of 100% footy please control motor mouth Paul Gallen, he interrupts questions before the question is finished he may have a good idea of what the question is but the viewing public don't SHUT UP GAL !
    He just a gibbering annoying part of that panel when in motor mouth mode SHUT UP GAL !

    • @dusan600
      @dusan600 2 года назад +2

      He’s just a bogan, what do you expect lol

  • @jasonford7216
    @jasonford7216 2 года назад

    Time to rob some footballers

  • @paulkedward1788
    @paulkedward1788 2 года назад

    Tedesco the highest paid fullback shows how stupid league has become.

  • @garybaltiejus7248
    @garybaltiejus7248 2 года назад

    Thec

  • @Sports-media180
    @Sports-media180 Год назад

    Sack the Cap

  • @garylewis69
    @garylewis69 2 года назад +1

    Ponga is not worth his Coin,

  • @lokylock2287
    @lokylock2287 2 года назад

    Josh Hodgson lol what a joke

  • @tomwilson6359
    @tomwilson6359 2 года назад

    Lol as if any clubs stick to it

  • @whatagup4799
    @whatagup4799 Год назад

    Papi isn't even top 5 highest paid and is the best in the game

  • @jbrown8059
    @jbrown8059 2 года назад +3

    Ponga is over paid over rated

    • @bittersweet340
      @bittersweet340 2 года назад

      Superstars are only good if the team is consistently winning.

  • @thomasmurphy4438
    @thomasmurphy4438 2 года назад +2

    It’s simple. Nick politis + brown paper bags = premierships

    • @hiimlummy7384
      @hiimlummy7384 2 года назад

      You thought you did something lol

    • @christ5826
      @christ5826 2 года назад

      its obvious both Storm and Roorters are rorting, clear for all laymen to wittness...

  • @christ5826
    @christ5826 2 года назад

    I just saw my Dragons go down to storm, can anyone honestly prove to me that Storm is playing fair and under the cap? Impossible, they have grant, hughs, coates, bromwich, solomona, kafusi, pap, munster, cheese, olam, welsh.....thats 11 all out superstars that would be a markee player in any team....my Dragons have, Hunt, Molo, Simms, possibly Suli as markee players....thats 3 players.....how is it possible that Storm have 11 AND get to also sign one of our markee players in SIMMS aswell?? Its a load of BS the cap, Storm are rorting it its impossible for them to have so many superstars in the one team, the comp is rigged

    • @jaysmith6014
      @jaysmith6014 2 года назад +2

      They produce players they don't buy them like the dragons... if they do it's from clubs that don't want the players or see the potential in said player.... eg: addo Carr, papenhyuzen from the tigers, Hughes from cowboys, Coates from Broncos etc etc no-one wanted to pay these guys before storm did so they paid less for potential they could unlock whereas the dragons went and overpaid for Simms, molo, hunt, woods, the guy that didn't play for a few years because of a court case, suli etc also they aren't unlocking potential... eg: Simms played amazing for new last year.... wasn't starting for the dragons.
      Stop whining, your club needs to be better.... so does mine but at least I'm not whining about the storm just because they are run better with better coaching etc.
      Boom. Mic drop.

    • @christ5826
      @christ5826 2 года назад

      @@jaysmith6014 no whining here, pointing out corruption, they were guilty of it once, now they obviously hide it better, as if other clubs arent offering more bigger dollars to the players now...think about it, sure they are good at developing but they cant be under the cap as other clubs would be offering far far far more money, you cant fit that many markee players into one team, id love someone to prove it, I doubt they can, De Belin BTW is a Dragon s jnr not bought same as Simms, Illawarra jnr

    • @Greenfield-yf1wh
      @Greenfield-yf1wh 2 года назад +1

      I thought they are buying Sims because the Storm is losing Bromwich brothers AND Kaufusi to the Dolphins?

    • @Greenfield-yf1wh
      @Greenfield-yf1wh 2 года назад +1

      Tyran Wishart is a good example. He wasn't offered a contract from the Dragons because they thought Wishart was not good enough, yet He was killing it against the Dragons and you wonder why the Storm has so many superstars.

    • @christ5826
      @christ5826 2 года назад

      @@Greenfield-yf1wh yes good point, Im one eyed Dragons so only see news on my team so didnt know those 2 Brommys were leaving

  • @shauntaylor9503
    @shauntaylor9503 Год назад

    Do a story on how certain teams rort the cap. Or should I say sombrero.

  • @TheTacticalRat
    @TheTacticalRat 2 года назад

    They've got to get rid of James Bracey. He gets in the way of the conversation between League legends, always a distraction. I cringe whenever he opens his mouth.

  • @joemantini7349
    @joemantini7349 2 года назад

    @melbourne storm

  • @shauntaylor9503
    @shauntaylor9503 Год назад

    It's all corrupt and all teams. Under the table stuff every club.

  • @user-hx5lz4qr1c
    @user-hx5lz4qr1c 4 месяца назад

    Best salary cap management ? .....plenty of brown paper bags !!! 🤫