I got a 2.0l EcoBoost, and oh how I love it compared to my old saturn a v6. This feels lighter, much responsive, a little turbo lag, but once it spins it puts me on my seat. Nice little engine.
I've got a 7 year old 1L eco boost engine with 165k on the clock, it has never had a single issue? Serviced every year and never missed a beat! Still sounds as good as when i got it new.
I love our Ford Flex Limited Ecoboost. It is amazing on family vacations. Even with the car full of camping gear, bikes on the back, and four of us, it climbs hills like they are nothing.
I own the 2015 Ford Mustang Ecoboost convertible Performance Premium pkg. It is the single most awesome thing I own and I love going on trips anywhere in the U.S. It truly opens up on the highway and on long runs I have definitely gotten her to the mentioned 145 MPH top speed on several occasions and felt safe doing it.
ive owned nothing but v8s. 03 mach 1, 04 cobra, 02 camero, 76 trans am, 96 thunderbird, 7.3 idi, 7.3 id, Mercedes e350, 5.3 silverado, 6.0 denali and now i have a 2019 raptor and im in love. yes its a v6 and its not a v8 but boy the power in the 3.5 is ridiculous. its like a cross between a e350 and a terminator. i dont know but its awsome and the v6 eco boost is a beast.
Here in Brazil I drive a 2017 Fusion Ecoboost. Even due to the local poor fuel quality (low octanes) It is a nice car with low consumption to enjoy your ride.
I wonder how many people that commented negatively here about ford EcoBoost but now own one. I bought 2012 f150 EcoBoost new and dont regret ot at all. Fine engine.
I have been a die-hard Chevy fan since I was knee high. I have also been sold on Toyota's 5.7 Tundra. I just recently traded my 2011 Tundra in on a 2013 F-150 ecoboost. I will probably never be e Ford fan, bud all I have got to say about my new eco boost is "DAMN"....most impressive truck I've ever owned. Ford revamped everything in 2011, from the ride, to the engine & transmission. The F-150 eco boost is worth every penny. Once again...I am not a Ford fan, but I'm sold on their new stuff.
EcoBoost engines are so fun to drive and thats what they've been made for! Unlike some of the people here said I've never experienced any breakdowns/serious problems. 1.6L Ecoboost (180PS) on 75-80.000KM
These really are great engines for getting a used car bargain (if properly cared for). Taurus SHO's with a few aftermarket parts can be pushing 400whp all for mid 20's. My 2016 foST was 17k used with 12k miles. Now it has almost 30k miles and I've never had a problem with it. It's a blast to drive
That's what people don't get. They need to care for these engines, not just run them into the ground and complain about them lol. They are very impressive engines
And at about 40-50k miles, they start to run rough when they are cold. Intake valves carbon up, and there is no real way to clean up the carbon deposits, due to the direct injection and the fact that you cant use ANY type of intake cleaner because it will destroy the turbo big time. Fords recommended fix, "replace the heads". Good job ford!
I'm all for better MPGs, lower pollution ETC, and so on, that's why I have a Crew Cab Silverado, and, a 2012 Mazda 3 for my daily commuter, to save on fuel, But Ford is pushing the Eco Boost like its a new invention. Turbos have been around for close to 100 years, with there lower ends beefed up to handle the harder loads. Now Ford renamed the Turbo, Now its called Eco Boost, and the Ford faithful are falling for it. If Ford using smaller, Turbo engines were saving a lot of fuel, it'd be good, but it doesn't save but 1 to 2 mpg, in exchange you'll get a engine that will NOT!!! have the same durability as the larger engines, wearing out while polluting the atmosphere. The fact of overworked smaller engines prematurely wearing out is as sure as the sun rising every day, its been proven millions of times, but you cant tell that to idiots that think Ford invented the Turbo, Oh I'm sorry, Eco Boost.
Surely a good booting sorts it? Like almost redlining it a good few time to clean out the cobwebs, of course the engine needs be warm before hard revving.
Mike n Serena the ecoboost is a direct injected engine, and carbon build up seems common in all of them, not just fords. Lots of makers are doing their ecoboost equivalents. Ford aren't claiming the turbo part is a new invention from what I read
guitarplayerforu Carbon build up issues have been rectified in the Ecoboosts in production now and it mainly only effected the 2.0 240-250ps unit. This can be helped by the use of leaner burning premium fuel which also has additives and given the lower price of fuel now anyway anyone should be able to justify it as it's the same price that regular used to be. Carbon build up issues haven't just happened to Ecoboost units but other forced induction direct injected units. Diesels are crap and people still buy them when they're doing 10,000 miles a year and they wonder why they clog up and stop working! There's been issues of people putting the wrong oil in the ecoboosts as well as places like Halfords were telling people they need 5W30 oil in their 1.0 units when it actually uses 5W20! so there are various outsider factors that have affected them.
BoeingvsAirbus1578 its shocking how a well established place like halfords can recommend the wrong oil for a engine. Thats like putting diesel in a petrol car, just wouldnt do it would you? Surely that wrong oil would wreck the 1L units?
That's only if you don't know how to maintain GDI..... My 2015 mustang has had no major issues, runs like new and pushes 29psi on stock turbo and block lol....never once been in a shop
@@SoGWestsofly Eh, I'm too lazy to do all of that. I rather just stick with the car I have. I change the oil on that bad boi regularly, and it seems so much easier.
I bought a 2012 F150 to see what all the rage was about. I've owned practically anything you can imagine because thats just the way I am, curious. I absolutely love the eco boost, empty(no trailer) at 50 mph it will pull itself up some steep hills cruise on at 1100 rpm and not shift when all others would shift down. No V8 gas engine has this kind of amazing torque, add a 9000 pound trailer like mine and its effortless at 70mph 2200 rpm, hill or not unless its a mountain. love this engine.
@@SchafdoggGTO I think he means a naturally aspirated v8. The 5.0 in the trucks actually produce less power than the 3.5 Ecoboost, but naturally a turbo v8 would out-perform a turbo v6
The 2.0 EB in my new Fusion is astonishing. So fast right off the line. 0-60 feels like five seconds and from 60-90 in a flash. More power than my previous V6!
Hajji Daoud agree. I drive a 2015 Ford Expedition with the 3.5 ecoboost and I am impressed at how fast this truck is. I pull up to muscle cars at red lights and leave them with ease.
I got the 2.7 in my 2017 Crew 4wd STX, drove my brother-in-law’s 5.3 Silverado and couldn’t help but think, this thing is dog slow compared to my 2.7, so far 21k and not a single trip back to the dealer!
@@elsalvadoran1688 Actually yes. Years ago we had an 89 Corolla wagon 4x4. Good little car mechanically but rusted out badly. We lived in a salty place though. Had over 300k when we finally ditched it.
I will say this. I had a 2013 Fusion that later got totaled with the same engine NON eco. I now have a 2015 with 130K miles that is fully loaded with ECO and I can fully say that it is so much faster with so much power to spare.
You're clueless my friend. I have 2 ecoboost F150s, a 2013 and 2017. They have been phenomenal vehicles with the 2013 having 133,000 miles on her already with absolutely no issues other than needing to buy a new battery and brakes. Ford has proven themselves That is why they have been the number one selling pickup for 42 years straight! You cannot argue that at all so go back to bed.
I read these comments and literally can’t relate. 2013 EB with 205k and it’s been driven hard nearly the whole way, nothing but normal oil changes (synthetic) every 5-8 k miles, changed spark plugs every 75k miles, changed boots at 189k and at 202k I changed timing chain and phasers but I only stretched the timing chain bc I upgraded turbos, intercooler, throttle body, CAI and like I said I drive it hard always. I have towed once or twice with it but I avoid towing as I just don’t like to do so, it’s been through woods and through a few rice fields but I mostly take good care of it and I’ve never had any major problems, timing chain was my fault and expected.
I have a 2016 Mustang w the 2.3L ecoboost engine. It has a twin scroll turbo and the turbo lag is barely there. With Cobb tuner and replace the inter cooler for a bigger one and denso spark plugs I'm blowing Audi A4 quattro away. I raced a G37 coupe and beat him by at least two car lengths. This little turbo 4 w 310bhp is so easy to get more gains with little $$. With about $2000 worth of bolt ons it's very easy to squeeze out another 100hp to the wheels. Ford ecoboost engines have been tested in the harshest conditions and just keep running at high levels. These engines are phenomenal.
Lets not mention that those torque and hp numbers are advertised by the same company that builds 3.5 liter EcoBoost V6s that blow up at 365 hp and 420 lb.-ft. As a long-time professional mechanic, I tend to take anything Ford says with a giant grain of salt.
There's nothing better than a simple 16 valve engine with MPFI, high compression ratio and good ventilation, admission and exhaust system! Nothing of turbos, thousands of sensors and modules, and shit around so expensive to maintenance 😞
For 99% of folks the 4 cylinder turbo is enough. And with readily available low end torque its responsive and "fun". They upgraded the interior with comfortable seats and made it high tech. With a low sticker price , its hard to beat. Most people keep cars for 3 years on average, which is about how long these 4 cylinder turbos will last.
I wish everyone listened to you. Ford isn't the first to do this but they are the first to make it a base engine in the US market and thats the innovation. Its a technology that just makes sense for everyday use.
Youri Dv look at the popular mustang youtubers few of them have engines blown. Itsjust6 got his gt blown and few others been posting on RUclips regarding problems with it
I went with the 5.0L in my 2018 f150 XLT . And I am very happy with it. Other then the fuel saver thing , when your at a light and it turns off. Then when you take you foot of the brake it starts back up. And I have heard the EcoBoost are expensive to fix more sensors and newer technology, so more expensive to fix. I had a 1997 f150 with the 5.4L and I loved that truck , but kid got bigger and needed more room. So got the 4 door. And sold my old one to my son.
Just hit 120000kms with my 3.5 hasn’t had a hard life but it’s been worked. Only thing I replaced so far is a single ignition coil that cost 85 bucks. 10 minute install. Good truck.
@@TraceLight She never sees anything less than 93 OCT and a $300 UPR catch can. No worries. This and the new springs are the first things i did when i got the car.
My buddy had a Silverado and a Denali with the 6.0l you're referring to. He only got 13-14 mpg on the highway on a good day when he kept the cruise control at 65 mph. His usual highway average was around 12 mpg.
The main source of power of the engine is the intake fan instead of air entering the engine at atmospheric pressure, this intake fan boost the pressure within the cylinders for optimum power and performance on the road, improved acceleration, more efficient highway passing and added power for towing. It will also improved fuel efficiency and buy burning less fuel, the vehicle could also expel fewer harmful pollutants emissions in the atmosphere. In addition this car could be reliable and very responsive to the driver. Even without the exhaust fan and the direct fuel injection to the cylinder, by the Intake Fan alone will do the work. Just like the Air intake accessory for an automobile Engine that’s been copied all over the place.
They say keep that oil changed! The unburnt sooting effect can blow into the oil pan mixing with oil and creating pin wear in the timing chains causing an expensive repair, unless you're like me and intend to work on this yourself. I have to.
Well its been 10 years already and oh boy have the ecoboost motors come a long way and with success. The fastest mass produced engines by far obvious they arent on ram trx levels but they will beat any other truck in engine performance and towing
Just drove my 2013 Lincoln MKS Eco-boost AWD sedan from Los Angeles to Kansas City and I got 22 mpg and at times running at 95-110 mph. To help beat carbon build up in an Eco-boost use high quality oil, high quality top tier fuel, install a oil catch can and run frequent Italian tune ups.
I drive a 2015 Ford Expedition king ranch with the 3.5 ecoboost. I use to think that only a v8 belongs in a truck until I test drive one. I am impressed on how fast this huge SUV is and well it can tow. Don't knock it until you try it. As for reliability only time will tell as I only have 30000 as of now.
My mom has a 2017 ford focus and it's zippy. My only drawback is.... is the few hundred dollars saved in gas during the ownership of the car replace the value of the engine when it prematurely breaks?
My mother had an 87 Escort wagon. 4 cyl, ac, good car. Ford chose to use a head gasket that somewhere after 50,000 miles would fail. Moms went at 70K, a friends 85 escort let go at 65K. We drive Toyotas now.
I've blown 2 of these 2.0L ScamBoost engines... both times because piston 3 shattered.. it was in the shop for a month the first time. i dont think the shop wants it back becasue i haven't been called back and couldn't get a hold of the service department.
A client of mine got an ecoboost F-150..a couple years later the engine blew and Ford tried to screw him out of his warranty by saying he didn't change the oil. Thankfully he kept all the service receipts.
finally someone who knows what they're talking about! in my 2007 F150 with the 5.4L i usually get about 16.6 driving to work which is part freeway and part residential with many hills. I have driven my truck down the highway going across to eastern washington (i live in the seattle area) and I got over 21MPG. it probably would have went higher if i wasn't going 70mph with my last gear changing at 40mph... wish i had a 5sp auto :/
Honestly I'll just stick to my 66 Mercury. There's a lot less to go wrong on them, plus I save myself thousands in repair costs because I can work on it myself.
Too much parts that can fail on such an engine, as a car mechanic educated at a Ford dealer/garage I know. I stick with my 1.8L 125HP gasoline engine in my F. Focus Mk II. No turbo, no high-pressure system, no special NOx filters needed and a little bit more power, than needed for German Cities, so I don't always need the high revs, what saves the engine. No enginge problems in 9 years (105.000km / 65635mls)
metal666metal666 My mk 3 Focus has broke on me twice and the down time is huge. All on a engine with less than 7,000 miles. I am starting to get afraid of when my warranty is over.
I’m thinking of buying an F-150 eco boost, I rented one once and I fell in love. From Vegas to LA, didn’t have to fill up once, had about a quarter of a tank when I got home. But I see the negative comments here. Any suggestions guys?
The new Ecoboost engines are dual injected so they don't have the carbon build up problem anymore but I will say that you don't get the best of both worlds at the same time. You can have Eco. You can have boost. You can't get both at the same time. Drive an f150 Ecoboost and actually use the power that is on tap and you'll actually get worse mpg than the V8
If you mean small block V8, then yes, about 412-420 BHP. The V8 modulars based on the 4.6L include the new 5.0L TiVCT and the 2013 GT500's 5.8L project Trinity. These are all Small Block architectures. As of 2012, the 5.0L TiVCT is rated at 420BHP. Add ecoboost to the 5.0L TiVCT and you can match or maybe even exceed the project Trinity 5.8L's 662 BHP.
Took a friends f150 with a eco boost engine, we hauled a trailer with 4 Harleys In it to Florida averaged 8.5 mpg, took my same year f150 with a v8, following year, same trailer and bikes. Avg 12.5 mpg. They do get better mpg if you daily drive it and only get groceries with it. If you use for hauling get a v8 last longer and burn less fuel, in the long run. Cause you don't have to keep a turbo spooled up all the time to get same power on a v8
I totally agree, in a few years this engine is going to be a headache while they are getting old, and the worst part will be the highest emissions of contaminants. The truth behind this is as less durable the engine is as better for the company, now they are building disposable parts in their cars, having as a result $$$$$$$
Chickenwing Oh, I know they're putting EB V6 plants into the F-150. I'm just waiting for them to take the retardation a step further and stick a four-banger in there.
In Europe, the Ford Ecoboost is 3 cylinders engine, 1000cc with different powers: 100 hp, 125 hp and 140 hp. Gasoline consumption is low. Due to the gasoline price, much better to have a small and well built engine
Love my 2015 escape ecoboost, However, the engine design has certain requirements for maintenance, if they are followed will be of good help in the long term.
@@genericgoat The old GT from 2004-2006 was not N/A, it was a supercharged 5.4L V-8. Also, the new GT is a twin turbo V6, not the 4-cylinder engine shown in this video.
The Thunderbird Turbo Coupe, the Mercury Cougar Coupe, and the Merkur Xr4ti. Bad assed little motors, but were killed at the time because they beat the end all be all 5.0 in hp, torque, and mpg. I own an 88 Tbird TC and I love it!
yea, and blows the motor in the process lol, a condition called LSPI, unfortunately a well known issue especially on people who runs aftermarket parts and tunes.
nicknicolosi1 i cant speak for all vehicles running the ecoboosts, but for the focus st’s the ecu does a pretty decent job of protecting from lspi. while reflashing an aftermarket tune on may take away the lspi failsafes (lookin at you, cobb), other tuners retain anti-lspi capabilities. what it really boils down to is knowing how to drive a manual, and to not floor it under 2k rpms. its a lot of user error involved in the blown ecoboost motors, or at least the 2.0s
@@trypprl467 yea, that was exactly my point, in response of the low end tourque, people floor this car under 2K RPM, and It isn't healthy for the motor. I have reached 32K, and so far is holding up, I am FBO and tuned by JST since the car had around 5K miles, going BT now, probably a Garrett GTX2860r gen 2. I am pretty happy with mine tbh. The EVAP thing is the only annoying thing I have found, I am at 3 purge valves already, and possibly 4th is coming soon lol, already threw the P1450 code.
nicknicolosi1 oh really? see im in college and just had my first car shit the bucket, so i bought used at ~70k. at 75 now and already had the purge valve done. im essentially stock still, unfortunately, as my parents arent the most supportive of buying extra stuff for my car:/ its a shame people dont just downshift or climb in revs before givin it the beans. really makes these cars look at lot worse than they are.
@@trypprl467 I agree, plus downshift is fun, and makes it more fun to drive when this car is driven around 3K RPM, sounds amazing and responds to throttle inputs very well. I lovey the FoST. When you ready for mods, start with the access port, intercooler and downpipe, it will blow your mind on how much faster it makes the car feel, I was making around 260whp on 93.
I'll take my NA J Series 3.5 liter over forced induction any day....I get 22m mpg....and no carbon build up with port injection :) Honda definitely hit it out of the park with the j series except for the early VCM issues.
I remember when I was a kid, all the other kids had Jordans. One day I tried to explain why my Kaepas were so much better. Even though my Kaepas lasted until I was a senior in high school, I failed miserably at convincing anyone they were better shoes, so I feel your pain and agree with you. There's just a whole world of difference in each automobile that makes it a difficult sell. If I wanted something that lasted forever but I got tired of in a week, I'd get my wife a boob job.
So basically not one new technology. Everything the ecoboost does has been done for decades by other manufacturers. The biggest thing the ecoboost can boast is the turbocharger which allows for larger power levels on smaller engines while offering lower fuel consumption when off-boost. Guess what - Japanese and European manufacturers have been doing this for better than four decades. The variable valve timing technology is something Honda perfected several decades ago and has been adopted by nearly every major manufacturer since then. Ford is actually quite late to the table on that one. What exactly are we supposed to be wow'd by here? That Ford can copy other brands decades later, slap a PC friendly name on it like ECOboost and pretend they are doing something new and innovated?
Well I wouldnt exactly call us american the smartest of the bunch lol. We have been suckers for V8`s since the getgo. I have the eco engine and miss the sound, but have always loved the sound of a blower or turbo also. A tune, and a few small bolt ons and the power gained is crazy off these engines. They have been around for a while and i agree that ford is trying to act like they invented it all but it is all consumer driven and the american consumer has not been ready to let go of the rumble for a fart can yet lol.
I run a catch can on my 2014 3.5 EcoBoost f150.In 36,000 miles it has captured a little over 1.5 gallons of crankcase vapors which otherwise would have been cooked into my intake valves.Im still getting 19.2 mpg and that's on a 4 wheel drive.The catch can is a bit of a PITA in winter time when it freezes though.But with regular attention it's very managable.After a while you learn what situations will cause it to thaw and that's when I drain it.All manufacturers have flaws in their vehicles I don't care who they are.So far my EcoBoost has performed very well and I'm a satisfied customer.Now the big question.Would I buy another one? No,but only because there are just too many other less complicated choices to be had.We all have our opinions and likes and dislikes but even if I purchased a new Chevrolet or GMC or a 5.0 Ford I'm 100% positive that eventually that vehicle would also have a few gremlins about it too.
I got a 2.0l EcoBoost, and oh how I love it compared to my old saturn a v6. This feels lighter, much responsive, a little turbo lag, but once it spins it puts me on my seat. Nice little engine.
I've got a 7 year old 1L eco boost engine with 165k on the clock, it has never had a single issue? Serviced every year and never missed a beat! Still sounds as good as when i got it new.
I love our Ford Flex Limited Ecoboost. It is amazing on family vacations. Even with the car full of camping gear, bikes on the back, and four of us, it climbs hills like they are nothing.
Lol a real comment. Wholesome too
I own the 2015 Ford Mustang Ecoboost convertible Performance Premium pkg. It is the single most awesome thing I own and I love going on trips anywhere in the U.S. It truly opens up on the highway and on long runs I have definitely gotten her to the mentioned 145 MPH top speed on several occasions and felt safe doing it.
ive owned nothing but v8s. 03 mach 1, 04 cobra, 02 camero, 76 trans am, 96 thunderbird, 7.3 idi, 7.3 id, Mercedes e350, 5.3 silverado, 6.0 denali and now i have a 2019 raptor and im in love. yes its a v6 and its not a v8 but boy the power in the 3.5 is ridiculous. its like a cross between a e350 and a terminator. i dont know but its awsome and the v6 eco boost is a beast.
Here in Brazil I drive a 2017 Fusion Ecoboost. Even due to the local poor fuel quality (low octanes) It is a nice car with low consumption to enjoy your ride.
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I wonder how many people that commented negatively here about ford EcoBoost but now own one. I bought 2012 f150 EcoBoost new and dont regret ot at all. Fine engine.
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I have been a die-hard Chevy fan since I was knee high. I have also been sold on Toyota's 5.7 Tundra. I just recently traded my 2011 Tundra in on a 2013 F-150 ecoboost. I will probably never be e Ford fan, bud all I have got to say about my new eco boost is "DAMN"....most impressive truck I've ever owned. Ford revamped everything in 2011, from the ride, to the engine & transmission. The F-150 eco boost is worth every penny. Once again...I am not a Ford fan, but I'm sold on their new stuff.
Wait for the turbo system and the eléctrica harnes start be a pain on the neck
How is your for now? How many miles do u have?
EcoBoost engines are so fun to drive and thats what they've been made for! Unlike some of the people here said I've never experienced any breakdowns/serious problems. 1.6L Ecoboost (180PS) on 75-80.000KM
These really are great engines for getting a used car bargain (if properly cared for). Taurus SHO's with a few aftermarket parts can be pushing 400whp all for mid 20's. My 2016 foST was 17k used with 12k miles. Now it has almost 30k miles and I've never had a problem with it. It's a blast to drive
That's what people don't get. They need to care for these engines, not just run them into the ground and complain about them lol. They are very impressive engines
@@mravocadoman2904Yup. I jokingly rag on them, though I see a lot of people with over 250k miles when they *do* get maintained.
250 from my 75 Nova, now in my 72 C20, bottom end has never been apart in the 28 years I've owned it. Around 400,000 miles, still going strong.
2013 ecoboost 100,923k miles still runs smooth and still drag ur v8 wherever you wanna go..
Fuck yeah bro lmao
Ecobeast for the win!
My 12 Platinum 4x4 Ecoboost has 155k. No problems.
180k on mine. Runs like a champ
But my V8 is from 99 and makes over 450hp and 500trq.
Just picked a 2015 Fusion Titanium, great engine. Averaging a little over 25 mpg in the city. Love the handiling, very good for a FWD sedan.
Titanium is the trim level.
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rayford21 the time has come
@@rayford21 i have had my 2.0 ecobeast Galaxy five years,did i win a prize
2015
1.5l ecoboost fusion se.
73k mi
Still runs decent i suppose.
Cant stand the transmission though. So sloppy
And at about 40-50k miles, they start to run rough when they are cold. Intake valves carbon up, and there is no real way to clean up the carbon deposits, due to the direct injection and the fact that you cant use ANY type of intake cleaner because it will destroy the turbo big time. Fords recommended fix, "replace the heads". Good job ford!
I'm all for better MPGs, lower pollution ETC, and so on, that's why I have a Crew Cab Silverado, and, a 2012 Mazda 3 for my daily commuter, to save on fuel, But Ford is pushing the Eco Boost like its a new invention. Turbos have been around for close to 100 years, with there lower ends beefed up to handle the harder loads. Now Ford renamed the Turbo, Now its called Eco Boost, and the Ford faithful are falling for it.
If Ford using smaller, Turbo engines were saving a lot of fuel, it'd be good, but it doesn't save but 1 to 2 mpg, in exchange you'll get a engine that will NOT!!! have the same durability as the larger engines, wearing out while polluting the atmosphere.
The fact of overworked smaller engines prematurely wearing out is as sure as the sun rising every day, its been proven millions of times, but you cant tell that to idiots that think Ford invented the Turbo, Oh I'm sorry, Eco Boost.
Surely a good booting sorts it? Like almost redlining it a good few time to clean out the cobwebs, of course the engine needs be warm before hard revving.
Mike n Serena the ecoboost is a direct injected engine, and carbon build up seems common in all of them, not just fords. Lots of makers are doing their ecoboost equivalents. Ford aren't claiming the turbo part is a new invention from what I read
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Carbon build up issues have been rectified in the Ecoboosts in production now and it mainly only effected the 2.0 240-250ps unit. This can be helped by the use of leaner burning premium fuel which also has additives and given the lower price of fuel now anyway anyone should be able to justify it as it's the same price that regular used to be. Carbon build up issues haven't just happened to Ecoboost units but other forced induction direct injected units. Diesels are crap and people still buy them when they're doing 10,000 miles a year and they wonder why they clog up and stop working! There's been issues of people putting the wrong oil in the ecoboosts as well as places like Halfords were telling people they need 5W30 oil in their 1.0 units when it actually uses 5W20! so there are various outsider factors that have affected them.
BoeingvsAirbus1578 its shocking how a well established place like halfords can recommend the wrong oil for a engine. Thats like putting diesel in a petrol car, just wouldnt do it would you? Surely that wrong oil would wreck the 1L units?
They've got a point. It DOES reduce Co2 emissions. Mainly because it's in the shop 24/7.
That's only if you don't know how to maintain GDI..... My 2015 mustang has had no major issues, runs like new and pushes 29psi on stock turbo and block lol....never once been in a shop
@@SoGWestsofly Congratulations!
@@dailydoseofcancer5517 it takes a lot more maintenance, fresh plugs, 3k oil changes, proper catch can, and full synthetic oil, but it's worth it.
@@SoGWestsofly Eh, I'm too lazy to do all of that. I rather just stick with the car I have. I change the oil on that bad boi regularly, and it seems so much easier.
I've had my 2.0 ecoboost for 4 years never been in the shop.
i really love my 1,5 ecoboost, it's stack a lot of advance feature which lead the other manufacture by several years.
I bought a 2012 F150 to see what all the rage was about. I've owned practically anything you can imagine because thats just the way I am, curious. I absolutely love the eco boost, empty(no trailer) at 50 mph it will pull itself up some steep hills cruise on at 1100 rpm and not shift when all others would shift down. No V8 gas engine has this kind of amazing torque, add a 9000 pound trailer like mine and its effortless at 70mph 2200 rpm, hill or not unless its a mountain. love this engine.
@@SchafdoggGTO I think he means a naturally aspirated v8. The 5.0 in the trucks actually produce less power than the 3.5 Ecoboost, but naturally a turbo v8 would out-perform a turbo v6
And they blow up much more often and more spectacularly than ever before!
The 2.0 EB in my new Fusion is astonishing. So fast right off the line. 0-60 feels like five seconds and from 60-90 in a flash. More power than my previous V6!
you use nitrous ? 😂
I switched from my 5.0L F150 to the 2.7 eco boost F150 and its fast as hell, easily 0-60 in 5-6 seconds vs 8 on the v8. Love it
Hajji Daoud agree. I drive a 2015 Ford Expedition with the 3.5 ecoboost and I am impressed at how fast this truck is. I pull up to muscle cars at red lights and leave them with ease.
I got the 2.7 in my 2017 Crew 4wd STX, drove my brother-in-law’s 5.3 Silverado and couldn’t help but think, this thing is dog slow compared to my 2.7, so far 21k and not a single trip back to the dealer!
Poppy Neese really, a whopping 27,000 miles on it and not a trip back to the dealer lol like that is impressive.
Guy on the Focus ST forums racked up 327,000 miles on his 2.0L EcoBoost.
Never gonna see those miles in a tryck
2017 Titanium Escape Awd and panaramic roof 2.0 turbo. Is the best in its class. IT kicks Ass! Handles like a dream too. The roof is a bonus! Shawn.
I went with a 5.0 in my 2013 f150 and I’m so glad I did
Anthony Bush v8 or no light duty pickup
Anthony Bush yup me too. They were to new to trust
I went with a Ram. I learned my Ford lesson the hard way.
Al Engdahl yeah I’ve got a 2016 hemi ram 1500 awesome truck love it
To bad my ecoboost blows it out of the water
Love my 2018 3.5L, it's a beast, smokes the 8 cylinder dinosaurs.
Anyone with me watching this in July 2018! Long live Ford!
Me and wifey's Escape is hands down the best car we've ever had! 150k, surefooted as a mountain goat and snappy as hell! Ford fans for good!
Ever tried a Toyota?
@@elsalvadoran1688 Actually yes. Years ago we had an 89 Corolla wagon 4x4. Good little car mechanically but rusted out badly. We lived in a salty place though. Had over 300k when we finally ditched it.
My 1.0 focus ecoboost does 27 miles to the gallon, my standard 2.2 tdi Hondacrv does 47mpg.
I will say this. I had a 2013 Fusion that later got totaled with the same engine NON eco. I now have a 2015 with 130K miles that is fully loaded with ECO and I can fully say that it is so much faster with so much power to spare.
They forgot the part where the engine malfunctions and bursts into flame.....and that small turbocharged engines have been around forever.....
Get your import ass out of here boi
ffkk echo boost.. the coyote is vicious
Said no one ever.
The fires would be what gm is known for
You're clueless my friend. I have 2 ecoboost F150s, a 2013 and 2017. They have been phenomenal vehicles with the 2013 having 133,000 miles on her already with absolutely no issues other than needing to buy a new battery and brakes. Ford has proven themselves That is why they have been the number one selling pickup for 42 years straight! You cannot argue that at all so go back to bed.
2.3 EcoBoost. 70k miles. No problems with valves, chains etc. You just need to take good care of it.
Regardless of the negative comments I love our ecoboost
You wont later on
I read these comments and literally can’t relate. 2013 EB with 205k and it’s been driven hard nearly the whole way, nothing but normal oil changes (synthetic) every 5-8 k miles, changed spark plugs every 75k miles, changed boots at 189k and at 202k I changed timing chain and phasers but I only stretched the timing chain bc I upgraded turbos, intercooler, throttle body, CAI and like I said I drive it hard always. I have towed once or twice with it but I avoid towing as I just don’t like to do so, it’s been through woods and through a few rice fields but I mostly take good care of it and I’ve never had any major problems, timing chain was my fault and expected.
I have a 2016 Mustang w the 2.3L ecoboost engine. It has a twin scroll turbo and the turbo lag is barely there. With Cobb tuner and replace the inter cooler for a bigger one and denso spark plugs I'm blowing Audi A4 quattro away. I raced a G37 coupe and beat him by at least two car lengths. This little turbo 4 w 310bhp is so easy to get more gains with little $$. With about $2000 worth of bolt ons it's very easy to squeeze out another 100hp to the wheels. Ford ecoboost engines have been tested in the harshest conditions and just keep running at high levels. These engines are phenomenal.
Tim Porch 4 zyl. in a Mustang. its like wearing woman clothes as a man.
Marcel K says the dude with mk2 mk3 focuses in his upload. let's not mention that motor has over 300 hp and 300 tq. lmfao
I never sayd this Engine is worse
Tim Porch nice
Lets not mention that those torque and hp numbers are advertised by the same company that builds 3.5 liter EcoBoost V6s that blow up at 365 hp and 420 lb.-ft. As a long-time professional mechanic, I tend to take anything Ford says with a giant grain of salt.
Every Innovation today is two steps back in durability
There's nothing better than a simple 16 valve engine with MPFI, high compression ratio and good ventilation, admission and exhaust system! Nothing of turbos, thousands of sensors and modules, and shit around so expensive to maintenance 😞
So, K20?
And yet ford is still selling alot of mustangs, regardless of your pov.
For 99% of folks the 4 cylinder turbo is enough. And with readily available low end torque its responsive and "fun". They upgraded the interior with comfortable seats and made it high tech. With a low sticker price , its hard to beat. Most people keep cars for 3 years on average, which is about how long these 4 cylinder turbos will last.
"The tebbo chah-juh"
Lmfao 😂
Hahaha😂 you will never see heaven😂😂😂
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@@vusindlovu8897 oh yes I will
I wish everyone listened to you. Ford isn't the first to do this but they are the first to make it a base engine in the US market and thats the innovation. Its a technology that just makes sense for everyday use.
does it show them breaking down?
Inglis Chris The real world also doesn't show them breaking down. Mine has done over 100K miles without breaking down once
Inglis Chris meanwhile the 2018 mustang GT v8s are breaking down in 10-20k miles smh
Danny P havent heard anything about that yet, source?
Youri Dv look at the popular mustang youtubers few of them have engines blown. Itsjust6 got his gt blown and few others been posting on RUclips regarding problems with it
Danny P not fords problem! It’s due to the owners poor tuning
I went with the 5.0L in my 2018 f150 XLT . And I am very happy with it. Other then the fuel saver thing , when your at a light and it turns off. Then when you take you foot of the brake it starts back up. And I have heard the EcoBoost are expensive to fix more sensors and newer technology, so more expensive to fix. I had a 1997 f150 with the 5.4L and I loved that truck , but kid got bigger and needed more room. So got the 4 door. And sold my old one to my son.
Every manufacturer has this technology...
Well made, and informative video. Like an ad should be
150k on my work 3.5 no problems and it has lived a hard life.
Just hit 120000kms with my 3.5 hasn’t had a hard life but it’s been worked. Only thing I replaced so far is a single ignition coil that cost 85 bucks. 10 minute install.
Good truck.
Henry would be so proud and amazed.
I like the idea of EcoBoost, but I'll stick with my V8 thank you :)
This didn’t age very well honestly.
@@frightenedsoul My SHO disagrees
J Gray rip carbon buildup
@@TraceLight She never sees anything less than 93 OCT and a $300 UPR catch can. No worries. This and the new springs are the first things i did when i got the car.
For those who still think v8 are faster
My buddy had a Silverado and a Denali with the 6.0l you're referring to. He only got 13-14 mpg on the highway on a good day when he kept the cruise control at 65 mph. His usual highway average was around 12 mpg.
In the words of my Ford mechanic, ECO-JUNK !!! Have fun with chain replacement,
Stupid comment yet we have some with 300k ...dummy
The main source of power of the engine is the intake fan instead of air entering the engine at atmospheric pressure, this intake fan boost the pressure within the cylinders for optimum power and performance on the road, improved acceleration, more efficient highway passing and added power for towing. It will also improved fuel efficiency and buy burning less fuel, the vehicle could also expel fewer harmful pollutants emissions in the atmosphere. In addition this car could be reliable and very responsive to the driver. Even without the exhaust fan and the direct fuel injection to the cylinder, by the Intake Fan alone will do the work. Just like the Air intake accessory for an automobile Engine that’s been copied all over the place.
until you have to do a valve job every 20 k due to faulty pcv vapor distrabution and carbon build up on intake valves
that was a problem with all the early GDIs, they're doing some extra injections to burn that stuff off in new engines
Martin Espinoza
ah, i see, so your burning extra fuel to prevent a problem?...
1700iDiGuy go google EGR stuff
i know exactly how EGR systems work. Poisoning your air intake of your motor with burnt gases... How about you breath in your shit/farts?
@Riddick tonn Carbon buildup on the intake valves due to "cheap" gas...on a direct injection vehicle? Think carefully about that...
They say keep that oil changed! The unburnt sooting effect can blow into the oil pan mixing with oil and creating pin wear in the timing chains causing an expensive repair, unless you're like me and intend to work on this yourself. I have to.
the 20% carbon reduction means it just stayed in your engine and is sitting on top the valves...good luck eco boost owners..the misfires are coming
+dan k bro, it means it used 20% less fuel, so 20% less emissions
No, he's right. In the ST community it's common to have to clean your valves after 20-50k miles.
All eco boost engines? I have a Honda pilot w eco boost engine. Wtf
Two words... water injection.
Really buddy why so much misinformation, fords eco boost have been around for how long, when ford came out w their i6 motors everyone doubted it
Well its been 10 years already and oh boy have the ecoboost motors come a long way and with success. The fastest mass produced engines by far obvious they arent on ram trx levels but they will beat any other truck in engine performance and towing
I missed the part in the video where the exhaust cam solenoid fouls up, gets stuck, and shits bits of plastic and metal into the cylinder head.
Just drove my 2013 Lincoln MKS Eco-boost AWD sedan from Los Angeles to Kansas City and I got 22 mpg and at times running at 95-110 mph.
To help beat carbon build up in an Eco-boost use high quality oil, high quality top tier fuel, install a oil catch can and run frequent Italian tune ups.
Negative effect, it explodes causing an ecoboom
I drive a 2015 Ford Expedition king ranch with the 3.5 ecoboost. I use to think that only a v8 belongs in a truck until I test drive one. I am impressed on how fast this huge SUV is and well it can tow. Don't knock it until you try it. As for reliability only time will tell as I only have 30000 as of now.
When they call matting it “quick acceleration processes” you know they’ve lost it.
i have driven an ecoboost powered ford vehicle and for the size of the motor it has a whole lot of balls very fast
My mom has a 2017 ford focus and it's zippy. My only drawback is.... is the few hundred dollars saved in gas during the ownership of the car replace the value of the engine when it prematurely breaks?
My mother had an 87 Escort wagon. 4 cyl, ac, good car. Ford chose to use a head gasket that somewhere after 50,000 miles would fail. Moms went at 70K, a friends 85 escort let go at 65K. We drive Toyotas now.
20% of the time in the shop reduces carbon emissions by 20%.
Proven an highly durable!
I've blown 2 of these 2.0L ScamBoost engines... both times because piston 3 shattered..
it was in the shop for a month the first time. i dont think the shop wants it back becasue i haven't been called back and couldn't get a hold of the service department.
A client of mine got an ecoboost F-150..a couple years later the engine blew and Ford tried to screw him out of his warranty by saying he didn't change the oil. Thankfully he kept all the service receipts.
20%less fuel consumption. Hahahahaha
fr my dodge dakota v8 got better gas mileage then my ecoboost
It is a 1.0 litre after all, if you want mpg then it's the perfect car because your not going to thrash the small engine.
Not the way I drive, haha.
For real. I get like 13mpg in city with the MKS Ecoboost. I can't help it. It's so fun to drive.
@@ivandrago7550 no mine is a 3.5 v6
finally someone who knows what they're talking about!
in my 2007 F150 with the 5.4L i usually get about 16.6 driving to work which is part freeway and part residential with many hills. I have driven my truck down the highway going across to eastern washington (i live in the seattle area) and I got over 21MPG. it probably would have went higher if i wasn't going 70mph with my last gear changing at 40mph... wish i had a 5sp auto :/
Well, if the ecoboost v6 make more power than conventional engines...PUT 2 ECOBOOSTS IN 1 VEHICLE FOR INSANE LEVELS OF POWER!!!
Honestly I'll just stick to my 66 Mercury. There's a lot less to go wrong on them, plus I save myself thousands in repair costs because I can work on it myself.
Too much parts that can fail on such an engine, as a car mechanic educated at a Ford dealer/garage I know. I stick with my 1.8L 125HP gasoline engine in my F. Focus Mk II. No turbo, no high-pressure system, no special NOx filters needed and a little bit more power, than needed for German Cities, so I don't always need the high revs, what saves the engine. No enginge problems in 9 years (105.000km / 65635mls)
metal666metal666 My mk 3 Focus has broke on me twice and the down time is huge. All on a engine with less than 7,000 miles. I am starting to get afraid of when my warranty is over.
I’m thinking of buying an F-150 eco boost, I rented one once and I fell in love. From Vegas to LA, didn’t have to fill up once, had about a quarter of a tank when I got home. But I see the negative comments here. Any suggestions guys?
Where's the timestamp where it blows up???
I have 271K on my 2011 F150, 3.5 liter... no problems..love it
Where’s the animation of it falling apart?
Really don't wanna have to deal with all of that tubing *when* something goes wrong. Also a five liter sounds a fuck of a lot cooler.
The new Ecoboost engines are dual injected so they don't have the carbon build up problem anymore but I will say that you don't get the best of both worlds at the same time. You can have Eco. You can have boost. You can't get both at the same time. Drive an f150 Ecoboost and actually use the power that is on tap and you'll actually get worse mpg than the V8
You nailed it. Eco or boost not both.
If you mean small block V8, then yes, about 412-420 BHP.
The V8 modulars based on the 4.6L include the new 5.0L TiVCT and the 2013 GT500's 5.8L project Trinity. These are all Small Block architectures.
As of 2012, the 5.0L TiVCT is rated at 420BHP.
Add ecoboost to the 5.0L TiVCT and you can match or maybe even exceed the project Trinity 5.8L's 662 BHP.
They forgot to show it being repaired at the dealership 1000 times under warranty lol
Took a friends f150 with a eco boost engine, we hauled a trailer with 4 Harleys In it to Florida averaged 8.5 mpg, took my same year f150 with a v8, following year, same trailer and bikes. Avg 12.5 mpg. They do get better mpg if you daily drive it and only get groceries with it. If you use for hauling get a v8 last longer and burn less fuel, in the long run. Cause you don't have to keep a turbo spooled up all the time to get same power on a v8
Only a matter of time before these little lunchboxes start getting jammed into F-150s
I totally agree, in a few years this engine is going to be a headache while they are getting old, and the worst part will be the highest emissions of contaminants. The truth behind this is as less durable the engine is as better for the company, now they are building disposable parts in their cars, having as a result $$$$$$$
That time has come sir. Thought id let ya know lol
Chickenwing Oh, I know they're putting EB V6 plants into the F-150. I'm just waiting for them to take the retardation a step further and stick a four-banger in there.
hahaha i got cha man
Their going to shove it up the Ford GT's anus :/
In Europe, the Ford Ecoboost is 3 cylinders engine, 1000cc with different powers: 100 hp, 125 hp and 140 hp. Gasoline consumption is low. Due to the gasoline price, much better to have a small and well built engine
Gimme a break. The ecoboost works. Drive one once and it is undeniable
Bill R. What happens when you drive it several times?
rayford21
It chokes on its own vomit
Ford makes great junkyard cars
Fords the best selling brand because everytime it breaks down you gotta buy a new one
Love my 2015 escape ecoboost,
However, the engine design has certain requirements for maintenance, if they are followed will be of good help in the long term.
changing my number don't make me weak. it makes you not able to do what your doing. simple don't twist it
Love it. 14 years later and the "ecoboom" wet-belt disaster engine is still ruining people's lives.
cool does it come with seats?Cockpit?Body?Wind shields? air stereo? :P
+G. Christopher at an extra cost
Cool video 👍 just wish they put the bit where it over heat's and catches on fire 🔥
or blows pistons..
That's what I called
*Ecobeast!*
“Smaller, more powerful engines” 90HP from a 1.4, fuck yeah.
What really sickens me, the new $500,000 Ford GT has that engine in it.
If they tainted the great N/A V8 with ecoboost, then people would be even less happy, and you probably won't win any modern races with a N/A car.
@@genericgoat The old GT from 2004-2006 was not N/A, it was a supercharged 5.4L V-8. Also, the new GT is a twin turbo V6, not the 4-cylinder engine shown in this video.
BS
Scotty Kilmer gave this engine a thumbs down and that is good enough for me. His word is gold.
Has everyone forgot about the SVO, it was faster than the normal mustang GT
The Thunderbird Turbo Coupe, the Mercury Cougar Coupe, and the Merkur Xr4ti. Bad assed little motors, but were killed at the time because they beat the end all be all 5.0 in hp, torque, and mpg. I own an 88 Tbird TC and I love it!
@@DBJ1703 yeah, i love my 85 SVO
So got this figured out. Now on to the cannibalistic Mustangs
Downsizing really IS the near FUTURE :)!!!!!
It'll be hybrids VS turbos/turbo-diesels...!!!
Comments that have aged well
Suzuki petrol petrol engines are the most fun and peppy engines in the small displacement category
The manufacturer shouldve put the oil catch can after the pcv valve as standard issue. Unfathomable!
A catch can does not met C.A.R.B. emissions, and they would have to rely on the customer emptying it every so often, and customers are idiots.
V8 power with v6 fuel economy. NOT. V8 power with v8 fuel economy. I do love the 3.5 EcoBoost in my MKT though, pulls like a beast.
"The turbocharger delivers a strong, low-end torque." - This ain't it, chief...
yea, and blows the motor in the process lol, a condition called LSPI, unfortunately a well known issue especially on people who runs aftermarket parts and tunes.
nicknicolosi1 i cant speak for all vehicles running the ecoboosts, but for the focus st’s the ecu does a pretty decent job of protecting from lspi. while reflashing an aftermarket tune on may take away the lspi failsafes (lookin at you, cobb), other tuners retain anti-lspi capabilities. what it really boils down to is knowing how to drive a manual, and to not floor it under 2k rpms. its a lot of user error involved in the blown ecoboost motors, or at least the 2.0s
@@trypprl467 yea, that was exactly my point, in response of the low end tourque, people floor this car under 2K RPM, and It isn't healthy for the motor.
I have reached 32K, and so far is holding up, I am FBO and tuned by JST since the car had around 5K miles, going BT now, probably a Garrett GTX2860r gen 2. I am pretty happy with mine tbh. The EVAP thing is the only annoying thing I have found, I am at 3 purge valves already, and possibly 4th is coming soon lol, already threw the P1450 code.
nicknicolosi1 oh really? see im in college and just had my first car shit the bucket, so i bought used at ~70k. at 75 now and already had the purge valve done. im essentially stock still, unfortunately, as my parents arent the most supportive of buying extra stuff for my car:/ its a shame people dont just downshift or climb in revs before givin it the beans. really makes these cars look at lot worse than they are.
@@trypprl467 I agree, plus downshift is fun, and makes it more fun to drive when this car is driven around 3K RPM, sounds amazing and responds to throttle inputs very well. I lovey the FoST. When you ready for mods, start with the access port, intercooler and downpipe, it will blow your mind on how much faster it makes the car feel, I was making around 260whp on 93.
I'll take my NA J Series 3.5 liter over forced induction any day....I get 22m mpg....and no carbon build up with port injection :) Honda definitely hit it out of the park with the j series except for the early VCM issues.
I remember when I was a kid, all the other kids had Jordans. One day I tried to explain why my Kaepas were so much better. Even though my Kaepas lasted until I was a senior in high school, I failed miserably at convincing anyone they were better shoes, so I feel your pain and agree with you. There's just a whole world of difference in each automobile that makes it a difficult sell. If I wanted something that lasted forever but I got tired of in a week, I'd get my wife a boob job.
So basically not one new technology. Everything the ecoboost does has been done for decades by other manufacturers. The biggest thing the ecoboost can boast is the turbocharger which allows for larger power levels on smaller engines while offering lower fuel consumption when off-boost. Guess what - Japanese and European manufacturers have been doing this for better than four decades. The variable valve timing technology is something Honda perfected several decades ago and has been adopted by nearly every major manufacturer since then. Ford is actually quite late to the table on that one.
What exactly are we supposed to be wow'd by here? That Ford can copy other brands decades later, slap a PC friendly name on it like ECOboost and pretend they are doing something new and innovated?
Well I wouldnt exactly call us american the smartest of the bunch lol. We have been suckers for V8`s since the getgo. I have the eco engine and miss the sound, but have always loved the sound of a blower or turbo also. A tune, and a few small bolt ons and the power gained is crazy off these engines. They have been around for a while and i agree that ford is trying to act like they invented it all but it is all consumer driven and the american consumer has not been ready to let go of the rumble for a fart can yet lol.
I thought the biggest difference was the injection system allows higer compression without knocking.
It has a turbo? I thought it was a hairdryer
We should come up with variable piston stroke. That'll show those capitalist pigs.
I run a catch can on my 2014 3.5 EcoBoost f150.In 36,000 miles it has captured a little over 1.5 gallons of crankcase vapors which otherwise would have been cooked into my intake valves.Im still getting 19.2 mpg and that's on a 4 wheel drive.The catch can is a bit of a PITA in winter time when it freezes though.But with regular attention it's very managable.After a while you learn what situations will cause it to thaw and that's when I drain it.All manufacturers have flaws in their vehicles I don't care who they are.So far my EcoBoost has performed very well and I'm a satisfied customer.Now the big question.Would I buy another one? No,but only because there are just too many other less complicated choices to be had.We all have our opinions and likes and dislikes but even if I purchased a new Chevrolet or GMC or a 5.0 Ford I'm 100% positive that eventually that vehicle would also have a few gremlins about it too.
2019?
nice boost torque