Keep in mind that this video is two years old, before Ryzen 3000 came in and kerb stomped everything. My opinions in this video have aged very badly, I'm aware of that.
Also, since then, more recent BIOS updates (from MSI, at least) have become so large that they've had to drop support for the pre-Ryzen APUs, such as you bought. To get a newer supported (and improved) equivalent, you might try the Athlon 200GE or 3000G APUs.
I think we can all see the context of the video. Watching it now, 2 years later, it still all seems very reasonable to me. I was holding off upgrading my almost decade old i7 until the new Zen CPUs dropped precisely because the older Zen CPUs weren't measuring up. So I'd say don't worry about videos aging; they are what they are. (Amusingly, the computer I replaced died soon after the new one arrived. I say "died" because it just wouldn't reboot one day, and I used that as an excuse to just move on over to Linux. For all I know I just needed to do a deeper power cycle.)
It's pretty amazing that we've learned that we have to make sure the BIOS is up to date with new CPUs in order to work. It's the first thing I check anymore.
Love your channel my dude. Just discovered so I have a back catalogue of itneresting fixes, builds and reviews. Thanks for the content. Love your commentary as well. It shows everyone the logical steps of diagnosis and repair.
Great video mate, an honest methodical conclusion to a modern PC repair. Ignore the comments 1 week ago by an obvious non Tech and suspect gamer , "Benchmark poster at best". As a Technician in a different field I know we all have a different route or we`d be robots. You showed your client respect by firstly checking what he owned up to, excessive thermal paste sorted, bad mobo plate sorted, its all good! FASTER does not mean BETTER in any repair as you have shown. keep up the videos as a lot of us may not comment but the Views and subscriptions tell no lies!
It's fun watching these old videos, so I can shout at you/the screen with "future knowledge"!!! Loving the channel my dude, love your diagnosis style. Next time I'm visiting my family in Salisbury i'll come and browse your wares.....and discuss polotics with you.... (I won't do that dw)
no shit like come on use google ya intel lover lol 15 mins in and he hasn't even bothered to check if the board supports the chip. moving parts around and hasn't checked CPU support list
@Desktopia ya he was told after an upgrade it wouldn't turn on so first focus should have been on what parts changed but because he so use to only using intel ( and it just working cause intel changes socket more then bios lol ) he didn't bother to confirm compatibility of said new parts
Same here lol I know X370 very very well, have had many come in with this exact issue. My only plus was a customer got a board & cpu combo with this exact cpu and gave it to me as he got a 2700x. Since that time it has been very useful on boards that don't offer bios flashback capabilities.
Yeah I was yelling at my screen about the BIOS too. I have that same board (bought it for $20 brand new on Ryzen 3000 Launch Day), so the first thing i did when i got it home was get an old chip and update the BIOS.
I learned how to troubleshoot 25 years ago, and i still build my own rigs. I have encountered every trouble shooting error you show in you're video's. Very fun to watch some one else go down the same rabbit whole. XD Thanks
Dude i did it man! I got into the bios and it’s posted! I put in a new CMOS battery CR2032 energizer and reset the jumper thing with the three pins! Currently configuring the bios as I’m posting this comment.
That's weird. I had a PC with a dead CMOS battery. The only problem it had was it wouldn't save the time or any other configuration data when powered off. It ran fine. I just had to do something in BIOS every time it booted.
That's weird. I had a PC with a dead CMOS battery. The only problem it had was it wouldn't save the time or any other configuration data when powered off. It ran fine. I just had to do something in BIOS every time it booted.
This has got a sub from me: calm, methodical, effective, not to mention your generosity in the cable re-management. Being the nerd that I am, and not a business man who doesn't need or want to waste his time unnecessarily, I note that the existing BIOS version 3203, which came out in Jan 2018, did appear in the CPU compatibility list against the Ryzen 2400G & GE: the G came out in Feb 2018, whereas the 2600X [which is what I have] didn't come out until April.
Long story short finally got my Asus x370 Pro motherboard to post by following the steps.I really appreciate your help and getting me back into the swing of building again.
@No_Mercy needed an APU since I didn't have a graphics card at the time. Got it running and update my board to run all my components. Victory after a couple weeks of waiting.
The upcoming chips the 3203 BIOS was referring to was the Ryzen APUs that released around feb 2018 (Ryzen 3 2200G/Ryzen 5 2400G). They were released before the Ryzen 2000 series, but based on the Ryzen 1000 series.
wow I'm surprised that brushing that cpu didn't bend anything! Awesome video as usual though, even I'm watching it 4 years after it was published, still so enjoyable.
I have no problems with the comments you made about the AMD Ryzen. I realize the age of the video and I know the situation now for Ryzen is different from that point in time. I'm currently the proud owner of a 3700x that replaced a 4690k because I wanted something that could handle gaming and streaming simultaneously. Thank you for this video!
@@whiplash7400 technically, yes, but that board is still actually in use. In addition, one of the benefits is that it's labelled to match the board, making it a doddle to plug the front panel into and then just plug that into the board. It's even keyed. I think you could quite easily use the same stackable pin headers used for Arduinos for other boards, but I didn't have any to hand while building.
Its not as good as it should be, they have a habit of using pins that too small so the header cables easily fall off. Its also kinda problematic if your case doesn't use all the headers as you have loose pins lying around asking to short to the case.
Does not like ASUS motherboards, but keeps getting Gigabyte ones that keep failing/problems in one form of another. I am on my 3rd ASUS motherboard. Only changed them when the pc got too old to upgrade.
I remember that you had another video awhile back that needed a bios update for the cpu. Surprised you didn't think of that sooner. Glad you figured it out though.
Now that is the proper SOP in troubleshooting your PC that will give you a peace of mind..others (those elitist in the comment section) would've skipped into the bios update and would never spot the excess thermal compound on the CPU pins..great vids as always!
I remember returning an AMD CPU at Fry's , they would test fit it into a board to make sure no bent pins , so I bought electronics tweezers and a magnifying glass and fixed it before I returned it. Took a good while to fix.🤣
Its interesting you mention the PSU as few people realise the changes in the ATX specification can be a real pain when trying to use a new PSU in an old computer. It may be better now thanks to LEDs and USB driving the 5V requirements back up again, but when CPUs first switched to a 12V header, PSUs designed for that didn't have enough 5V amps to work with older motherboards that ran the CPU VRM off 5V. (at least that's how I recall it)
There are advantages to having an oversized psu, they tend to be most efficient at about 50-70% utilization, so you can get better efficiency by having a oversized psu vs one that is just big enough. On top of that, because the psu is running at let's say 50%, there will be less heat, and less load in general, so you get less wear on the components, most likely resulting in longer life.
I salute you Master Pc Jedi your tooth brush tricked like a charm. It was some Arctic ice in the pins. The loo roll was also useful but watch for the paper bits
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv If the alcohol dries off before you connect the CPU to its socket, it won´t be an issue. Though since LGA is quite sensible to touch, I would hardly encourage not to touch those pins with anything.
I just built my pc today and was having post issues I have a amd ryzen 5 3600 paired with a gigabyte b450m ds3h and was at a loss on why I could not get to the bios screen let alone see the display this shed so much light on trouble shooting my parts and what the best remedy is I have a AMD ryzen 2600 cpu arriving tomorrow to put in and get my 3700 to post and keep the other cpu for a later project thanks for the video !
@@hossi1330 for future refrence, AMD will send out a loaner cpu to update your bios. If you don't send it back you have to pay for it but the loaner is free.
Sometimes you can buy pretty cheap parts for testing stuff, like those garbage AMD non-ryzen processors and some old but functional GPU's etc.. but of course you still have to pay something for them.
Have a similar no post issue but my PC was working before. 3600 and asrock steel legend. I reseated the ram and then it starts to power cycling and not post.
nice video, i have a b350 pc mate latest bios with 1700, i changed case because my pc fell to the ground and now it wont boot, i tried a lot of what you did and nothing worked, i placed an order for a motherboard speaker to further diagnosticate
A soft small paint brush?* That’s what I was thinking but I have a feeling it be too soft to fast / effective (not that I experimented), but I think those bristle will go around the metal pins as thet are short and bristles are long and flexable enough. I stopped cringing, just dont angle or push down too hard on the brush I guess. It’s pyshchological, to see a greasy toothbrush, hygene comes to mind in Adams defence. Good honest useful video. (*Some one may scream static @ me, i say wet.)
Don't you love the experts who knew what the problem was after a few minutes? I thought your method was fine. I have made many false assumptions when trying to problem solve since I started working with eight bit computers in the eighties with no hard drive and 5.25 inch floppy drives. I was so excited when I installed my first Seagate 5MB hard drive and progressed from green-screen graphics to the Colour Graphics Adapter, playing games like Leisure Suit Larry and Monkey Island.
As soon as you started on this one I knew it was a BIOS update. I have a b350 board from my old computer and have just purchased a 3000g and need to update the bios to support it.
@mister.T Jr I will be using my Ryzen 1600 to do the update and then swapping out for the Apu once it's done. Hopefully it will go smoothly, I am doing it today. Fingers crossed.
@mister.T Jr hi. I finished it yesterday evening , two bios updates (one was a bridge bios) but all in all it was a very smooth and straightforward process. The 3000g is better than my expectations.
Looks similar to my problem. I'll see if I can download any needed update via my current (to be replaced with the build) Mac Mini. Wild card: At first I got no fans, not even on the PSU. I put the open MoBo on its box and figured out I'd put the Ryzen 5 CPU in sideways. I'm hoping it's not damaged. The pins appeared OK... no force was used. I just lined up the triangle with what I thought was another triangle on the socket. I reset it and got a white LED on the MSI MB. I still haven't found out what that means. No speaker to make beeps, but no video at all. At least now the PSU, CPU and GC fans all work. This is my first build since my last Win machine in about 1995. I went to Mac in about 2000. Now I'm a Linux guy. It's been OK on the Mini but that's starting to be too slow for what even browsers need these days. Wonder what info they're trading as I stare at a video or Facebook. Sometimes that HDD goes crazy!
As soon as I seen the "No Post" I immediately said BIOS needs updating. My Ryzen 7 1700 & MSI B350M Pro-VDH worked out of the box but updated it to the newest BIOS as soon as it booted to make it compatible with Ryzen 9 3700X.
Gents, i had the same problem as you did, but my solution was a bit diffrent. As you, i have a ASROCK 370 X PRO4 and RYZEN 5 1500X and at power up no post but 5 short beeps. At the begining i thought it was the cpu, then the memory, then the mobo but in the end it was the keyboard. Belive it or not my mobo did not recognize my keyboard. To tell the truth i had an old 6-pin mini-DIN connector keyboard, now i have a usb keyboard and everything works perfect. So for those with old keyboards and encountring the problem we did try to change your keyboard firs. Thank you for such great video!
To clean cpu pins and mobo socket did just used 99% isopropyl alcohol? Did you know if there is any risk to clean them in that way? Theorically should be dielectric and volatile so even if penetrates inside should be fine after it dried for good but... You know I want be sure
Looking at the motherboard in this video. I checked the support page and looks like the first bios release was from early 2017. Latest bios thus far was late 2024. It supports all CPUs, including x3d like 5700x3d. So this motherboard has had support for almost 8 years thus far. AM4 has had quite the journey. And the fact that you can put a 5700x3d into this motherboard today and have gaming performance similar to an AM5 R7 7700 is pretty sickomode. pcie gen.3 VS gen.4 is really not a problem either. Especially when using graphics cards that has all 16 lanes. Even the ones with only 8 lanes shows very little difference. And for M.2 NVME you wouldn't notice the difference for regular use anyway. No wonder the 5700x3Ds are selling like crazy. LUL. Insane
Wonder how many customers took there systems back to the shop for refunds or took them to a dodgy shop where they would charge for a new board but only updated the bios or made them pay a lot more.. they do now notify about updating the firmware but back then I bet manufacturers had a nightmare with this.. good that some board support USB flash firmware updating especially when AMD are bringing out new generations CPUs and there no support for them in the firmware. good video... i actually was stumped watching the video until you shown the board's chipset .. i was thinking it was a dodgy reset switch just shorting all the time was my bet.. but when i saw the IO shield I had a shiver go down my back .. so hate them daft cut out on the panel like bloody razor blades too so sharp... anyway good video bit old but your videos are relaxing .. actually I watch a lot of videos and yours is more relaxing than Linus, JaysTwoCents ect lol i only watch 5 minutes of there and Evblogs too long but yours maybe because it reminds me of when I had a shop in UK and how its so similar. Good video
Hello, I would like to know if I can order the grey adapter you used to plug-in the power cables to the motherboard. Thank you in advance and I love your videos. They’re very helpful.
great video. I had a similar problem. including the thermo paste on the cpu. Unfortunately my board was compatible with my cpu(tuf game x570 wifi) so it couldnt have been the bios. After replacing every component with the exception of the cpu my build still did not post. So I guess my new ryzen 7 3800x died on me. waiting for my new cpu to test everything out again. I don't for see not posting considering unless I'm extremely unlucky...Good video, it gave me some reassurance that I checked everything possible.
@@zarg05 for me, it was my CPU and GPU. PC working now. Hard to say if my MB was also bad. replaced CPU, MB, and GPU. I feel all 3 were bad. CPU is the last thing you thing could be bad, specifically when is new and it worked initially.
my Ryzen 5 1600 PC died, so I'm just using my Athlon II X4 640 PC because I currently don't have the money to get a new one since I'm unemployed because I got fired from my last job and the COVID-19 pandemic has made it hard to get a new one.
I had this exact problem when updating from my Ryzen 5 2600x to the Ryzen 7 3700x, felt like crying when it didn't work, some research later, I found i needed to update BIOS from F32 to F40, was relieved when it booted. glad I didn't spend £300 on a paper weight.
Two days ago in my own build I had almost the exact same problem. But for me, I had simply inserted the 4-pin part of the 20+4 pin power connector in the wrong orientation. I had failed to notice there was a reason for the extra plastic parts sticking out to indicate how the 20-pin and 4-pin parts should be aligned together.
I used to always just run the PSU+CPU+CPU FAN only - no RAM, no graphics, no other wires/connections/monitor/drives, etc. except for 'beeper speaker' if one wasn't already fitted. Then listen for the beeps - if no beeps then CPU is not running - simple! Then feel CPU to see if warm. Once you get beeps, start by adding RAM, then graphics (if required), then boot hard disk, then rest of stuff. step by step until problem is found. It saves time in the end.
Oh the old cpu not supported yet issue. Thought it was going to be a need to clear cmos because the ram is at the wrong clock rate or board was shorted or something. Asus is the one that actually WORKS in my experience. My b350 prime can flash in the bios from disc but some directories are not visible for some reason.
I love the example he gave for a 1000w PSU in another video! "6 GHz liquid nitrogen cooled CPU and a quad-SLI graphics setup" or something like that haha
Nice work brother! What is your “go-to” for diagnosing CPUs with likely shorts(soldered on or removable) that won’t POST video? *assumptions: known good ram, power, e.g., min sys configuration to achieve post Thx!!
PC turns on cpu cooler,psu fan,cooling fans, are spinning VGA fans aren't spinning but LED's working on VGA. MSI EZ DEBUG indicates CPU and quickly indicates VGA."NO SIGNAL" on monitor cannot get into bios. Note:- this was the first boot up I was able to install windows it worked nearly 2 hours and suddenly monitor showed "NO SIGNAL". I couldn't install/update bios,drivers,etc plz help?
If the debug LEDs are moving over to VGA and stopping there, it sounds like a graphics card issue. Try testing the card in another computer, or putting a different card in.
That was thrilling! Great to watch a master at work... eliminating the obvious and discovering the fail. Thanks much. This might help me resolve a similar issue with a Ryzen 3700x (suxorz that there's no CPU graphics).
Install a beep speaker if there isn't one. Those early boot diagnostic beeps (or their absence) will give you a lot of information if you have to run headless.
that board must have had the USB 3.1 header ripped off cause that board does come with the plastic plugin for it but if you pull at it wrong you can rip them off to leave bare pins which are not good. makes me think this is not a new board and that it was just upgraded to the 2600x only
I have a GA-AX370 GAMING K7 and my new ryzen 9 won't boot. Fans and everything comes on but the cpu on-board warning light is going off. How do I reset a safe mode to flash it. It doesn't start up so I may run a thumb drive with drivers on it.
Can you have troubleshooting video content regarding power supply? I would be great for viewer like us doesn’t have any idea what’s going on power supply like some on computers that have power supply…Many Thanks!
I have no plans for it at the moment... PSUs are more complicated than people think. A lot of folks parrot the "just replace the capacitors" line, but there's a great deal more than just caps that can go wrong, and many faults require you to reverse-engineer the switch mode controllers and then probe their outputs with a scope to check for anomalies... and it goes on. Generally not worth it when most PSUs are < $100.
Client was not charged any extra for that. This video is somewhat obsolete now, what with Ryzen 4000 on the horizon, but that APU paid for itself over the next year with the amount of mobos I BIOS updated with it! In retrospect, I should've bought a second hand Ryzen 1200, as the APU caused problems in some places. But we're about to see all the tables turned on their heads with Zen 3 anyway.
@@Милошмилош-ц2г hope this helps: in some cases (like when new components/issues come to the market) you spend a long time diagnosing a problem. you can't charge for 10hrs of (guess) work, so you lose money/time on the first ones. as times goes by, the same problems reoccur and you're able to fix them quicker and recover the lost time... ps: the actual price is based on location and all that. some places charge $50 for a BIOS update and that's acceptable but in other places $10 may be very expensive...
@@duroxkilo Some of the bad companies I have seen charge £100 for putting in ram sticks! and about £80 for putting in a SSD or hard drive! So imagine how much actual repairs are!
I'm not sure what I'd call it... I'd call it's a front panel connector block, but I can't find any useful results when searching. They come with motherboards sometimes to make it easier to quickly disconnect/connect the FP wires.
Thanks for this vid. My problem is I only get a 1 sec flash of the LED's down around the audio section. Using Ryzen 3 2200G, 1 year old. I upgraded my main PC with the Ryzen 7 2700. Hard for me to believe it is bad. Got Amazon Warehouse deal for Aorus B450 M. Sent it back and the 2nd one does the same thing. The Bios/UEFI should be fine. What are the odds that Amazon has sent me 2 bad boards. So now I have ordered the Ryzen 3 3200G, I hope it does not need an updated bios for 3rd gen. And I should mention that I have tried this in 2 different cases with 2 different power supplies.
Whats the point of brushing the cpu pins and socket? If you have done LN2 and have used vasoline or some kind of sealer to stop condensation, then yes I would recommend this. But otherwise this is ultimately pointless and even potentially dangerous to the hardware.
Did you watch the video with sound? He said it is to get rid of the thermal paste on the pins of the CPU. There isn't really any potential danger as he is using IPA which isn't conductive and Graham will 100% be careful with it.
@@loganparker4184 When you break a customers hardware and have to fix it or pay for it. You will understand what I'm saying. The is unnecessary and could cost him a lot of money if he were to knock a pin or 2 off the CPU or even damage the socket. Unless it was being used for liquid nitrogen or something similar. You should never touch the socket or pins. Never risk what you don't have to. This is basic computer building 101.
Thank you you just saved me I realized my Ryzen 3 3100 doesn't have onboard graphics I was planning to buy and gtx 1060 down the line but apparently to get a post you need a gpu or onboard graphics
Smacks of my problem to the `T`, great diagnosis. If there was a way to flash the bios w/o posting to the bios that would be handy :p guess I'm stuck buying an slightly older cpu - CPU: Ryzen 5 2600 - CPU Cooler: Wraith Stealth Cooler - MOBO: ASUS B450 AMD Ryzen 2 Micro ATX Gaming Motherboard AM4 DDR4 HDMI DVI VGA M.2 USB 3.1 Gen2 (Prime B450M-A/CSM) - RAM: Patriot Viper Elite Series 2666MHz / PC4-21300 / PVE432GG2666C6KGY - PSU: Thermaltake Smart 700W 80+ White Certified PSU, Continuous Power with 120mm Ultra Quiet Fan, ATX 12V V2.3/EPS 12V Active PFC Power Supply PS-SPD-0700NPCWUS-W - Chassis: Thermaltake Core V21 SPCC Micro ATX Cube Computer Chassis CA-1D5-00S1WN-00
I did get some thermal paste on my 2700X the other day. The Motherboard didn´t even recognize the CPU. I though for a sec i fried it, because I was a bit reckless while turning off the PC and demounting everything.
I just had to replace 2 X570 Taichi motherboards and a R9 3900X - all of which were covered under warranty. I went to an X570 Aorus Master because I now don't trust Asrock. Plus I have to recommend against buying from Amazon Australia as I did for the CPU because they only give a 30day warranty.
Ok i have an x470 mobo with ryzen 5 2600x cpu and Msi geforce 1660 super and I’m not getting a post could the problem be the same as in this video or something different?
hello there you have very good and clear explain .its really very good helpfull.i got the same problems.i try to solve your way.but the problem is still now BIOS not shown up.do have any more idea.can you give me any advice please.
Seriously dat cable tie on the 4+2 PCI-E triggered me immensely. Why would you do that? That cable has a little plastic clap to hold it together. This one didn't?
I also had to buy an APU for a BIOS update to my B450 to fit a Ryzen 3600. I've also had a 486 get killed by thermal paste in the socket and on the CPU pins. Cleaning that thing up enough that it could boot reliably was a challenge. Ended up swapping the CPU anyways. Also, I feel called out. (FX4100 OC 4.5GHz, R9 290X. Could challenge my 750w Antec.)
I just built a pc. Ryzon 5 3600 with MSI X570 Pro. No post. I salvaged some parts from old pc ie power supply HDD Rom drive. Having same problem. I sent MB back and got replacement still not posting. sent CPU back awaiting replacement. after watching your video I think I may still have problem. HDD graphics card and PSU definitely work as I put back in old pc so I can stream music video and get online.
Exactaly the same problem face with my new build. msi B550M Pro VDH with Ryzen 5600G. No response at al.... No bios posting... No display😩😩😩 the terrible fact is that i didn't have any spare apu's for Bios update So, i once again shipped my MOBO to retailer for updating bios. Waiting.... Hope that it could work....
The reason that the "used" A8 you bought looked so new -it was because it was used for 10 mins to update bios, then listed for sale on Ebay. Simple simple.
Do you think that Is reasonable to cool a 3950x with a High level air cooler such as the be quiet dark rock 4 (not the pro version) without doing overclock ?
got a similar problem with ryzen5 2500x in aurous b450 (they are compatible) but getting dram led fault, tested with 2 sets of compatible ram and had 3 mobos, each time mobo worked for a time when new (cleared cmos on each) and got the same fault 3 times not sure what is, as CPU has worked in each mobo when bought new, new PSU also so it ain't that could it be the CPU? just strange as workes for a time and the just won't boot. (am not dumb to computers as-built systems since 97' but am stumped)
@@Adamant_IT had bios update problems on last 2 boards think the are bricked IDK, but mobo 3 had a recent bios maybe 3 from latest but all seemed okay left on overnight windows had frozen tryed hard boot and now wont boot dram led on constant, same prob 3 times 3 mobo different bios versions, stummped recomend and brands or mobo that ate reliable with ryzen gen 2.
The newer MSI B450 boards (Tomahawk Max / Motar Max) are probably the best B450 boards right now I'd say. I don't think you'll find anything better without going into X470/X570 categories.
Keep in mind that this video is two years old, before Ryzen 3000 came in and kerb stomped everything. My opinions in this video have aged very badly, I'm aware of that.
i really like how u do ur "diagnose steps", sir.
thank you for sharing this video
I thought you were super honest in that video and we are learning new all the time, yes Ryzen has grown up. sorry for my bad english..... i'm danish
Also, since then, more recent BIOS updates (from MSI, at least) have become so large that they've had to drop support for the pre-Ryzen APUs, such as you bought. To get a newer supported (and improved) equivalent, you might try the Athlon 200GE or 3000G APUs.
I think we can all see the context of the video. Watching it now, 2 years later, it still all seems very reasonable to me. I was holding off upgrading my almost decade old i7 until the new Zen CPUs dropped precisely because the older Zen CPUs weren't measuring up. So I'd say don't worry about videos aging; they are what they are.
(Amusingly, the computer I replaced died soon after the new one arrived. I say "died" because it just wouldn't reboot one day, and I used that as an excuse to just move on over to Linux. For all I know I just needed to do a deeper power cycle.)
It's pretty amazing that we've learned that we have to make sure the BIOS is up to date with new CPUs in order to work. It's the first thing I check anymore.
Love your channel my dude. Just discovered so I have a back catalogue of itneresting fixes, builds and reviews. Thanks for the content. Love your commentary as well. It shows everyone the logical steps of diagnosis and repair.
Those few times that bios flashback is worth its weight in gold
I really like your videos, they are construtive and full of vital information, no fussing around, just plain and simple! Keep up the good work! :-)
Great video mate, an honest methodical conclusion to a modern PC repair. Ignore the comments 1 week ago by an obvious non Tech and suspect gamer , "Benchmark poster at best". As a Technician in a different field I know we all have a different route or we`d be robots. You showed your client respect by firstly checking what he owned up to, excessive thermal paste sorted, bad mobo plate sorted, its all good! FASTER does not mean BETTER in any repair as you have shown. keep up the videos as a lot of us may not comment but the Views and subscriptions tell no lies!
Same thoughts
It's fun watching these old videos, so I can shout at you/the screen with "future knowledge"!!!
Loving the channel my dude, love your diagnosis style.
Next time I'm visiting my family in Salisbury i'll come and browse your wares.....and discuss polotics with you....
(I won't do that dw)
30 seconds into the video i was yelling at my screen "bios update!!!!!"
Haha same!
no shit like come on use google ya intel lover lol 15 mins in and he hasn't even bothered to check if the board supports the chip. moving parts around and hasn't checked CPU support list
@Desktopia ya he was told after an upgrade it wouldn't turn on so first focus should have been on what parts changed but because he so use to only using intel
( and it just working cause intel changes socket more then bios lol )
he didn't bother to confirm compatibility of said new parts
Same here lol I know X370 very very well, have had many come in with this exact issue. My only plus was a customer got a board & cpu combo with this exact cpu and gave it to me as he got a 2700x. Since that time it has been very useful on boards that don't offer bios flashback capabilities.
Yeah I was yelling at my screen about the BIOS too. I have that same board (bought it for $20 brand new on Ryzen 3000 Launch Day), so the first thing i did when i got it home was get an old chip and update the BIOS.
I learned how to troubleshoot 25 years ago, and i still build my own rigs. I have encountered every trouble shooting error you show in you're video's. Very fun to watch some one else go down the same rabbit whole. XD Thanks
Dude i did it man! I got into the bios and it’s posted! I put in a new CMOS battery CR2032 energizer and reset the jumper thing with the three pins! Currently configuring the bios as I’m posting this comment.
That's weird. I had a PC with a dead CMOS battery. The only problem it had was it wouldn't save the time or any other configuration data when powered off. It ran fine. I just had to do something in BIOS every time it booted.
That's weird. I had a PC with a dead CMOS battery. The only problem it had was it wouldn't save the time or any other configuration data when powered off. It ran fine. I just had to do something in BIOS every time it booted.
This has got a sub from me: calm, methodical, effective, not to mention your generosity in the cable re-management. Being the nerd that I am, and not a business man who doesn't need or want to waste his time unnecessarily, I note that the existing BIOS version 3203, which came out in Jan 2018, did appear in the CPU compatibility list against the Ryzen 2400G & GE: the G came out in Feb 2018, whereas the 2600X [which is what I have] didn't come out until April.
I've become a big fan of this channel, I enjoy watching you diagnose and repair PC's. Great work.
it works thank you so much anyone who is still going through this dont give up
Thank you for the video!I learn so many things watching your videos, great job!!
Although in your opinion this took to long, I loved it. This really help me learn. Thanks For Sharing!
Long story short finally got my Asus x370 Pro motherboard to post by following the steps.I really appreciate your help and getting me back into the swing of building again.
@No_Mercy needed an APU since I didn't have a graphics card at the time. Got it running and update my board to run all my components. Victory after a couple weeks of waiting.
@No_Mercy Thats optional, tech can do that
Sorry I couldn't help more
This video has aged so much, I suppose its a good case study in how we get used to all the issues with the status quo.
The upcoming chips the 3203 BIOS was referring to was the Ryzen APUs that released around feb 2018 (Ryzen 3 2200G/Ryzen 5 2400G). They were released before the Ryzen 2000 series, but based on the Ryzen 1000 series.
Liked that fact that you used bios beeper and also 100% agree on not having an igpu
I don't understand why integrated graphics changed from on-board to "on-CPU"!
wow I'm surprised that brushing that cpu didn't bend anything! Awesome video as usual though, even I'm watching it 4 years after it was published, still so enjoyable.
Awesome video. Really gives me the knowledge to properly troubleshoot a pc that doesn't boot.
I have no problems with the comments you made about the AMD Ryzen. I realize the age of the video and I know the situation now for Ryzen is different from that point in time. I'm currently the proud owner of a 3700x that replaced a 4690k because I wanted something that could handle gaming and streaming simultaneously. Thank you for this video!
Love the videos bro, very informative! Once you called out the MOBO I said BIOS update lol!
That intermediate/removable header for the front panel connections is a really neat idea.
It's a standard feature on ASUS boards, it think.
It is indeed great, really missed that moving to a Gigabyte board for my Ryzen.
@@TheTurnipKing Surely you could have used the same one from your old board on the new one?
@@whiplash7400 technically, yes, but that board is still actually in use. In addition, one of the benefits is that it's labelled to match the board, making it a doddle to plug the front panel into and then just plug that into the board. It's even keyed.
I think you could quite easily use the same stackable pin headers used for Arduinos for other boards, but I didn't have any to hand while building.
Its not as good as it should be, they have a habit of using pins that too small so the header cables easily fall off. Its also kinda problematic if your case doesn't use all the headers as you have loose pins lying around asking to short to the case.
Informative and honest - thanks again :) Id get you to troubleshoot any computer issue I couldn't handle, if I wasn't in the colonies down-under ;)
Does not like ASUS motherboards, but keeps getting Gigabyte ones that keep failing/problems in one form of another. I am on my 3rd ASUS motherboard. Only changed them when the pc got too old to upgrade.
The episode like this turn me on to build PC or work on my projects.
I remember that you had another video awhile back that needed a bios update for the cpu. Surprised you didn't think of that sooner. Glad you figured it out though.
I found this very useful and informative. Thanks.
Now that is the proper SOP in troubleshooting your PC that will give you a peace of mind..others (those elitist in the comment section) would've skipped into the bios update and would never spot the excess thermal compound on the CPU pins..great vids as always!
I remember returning an AMD CPU at Fry's , they would test fit it into a board to make sure no bent pins , so I bought electronics tweezers and a magnifying glass and fixed it before I returned it. Took a good while to fix.🤣
Lol you sly fox
Its interesting you mention the PSU as few people realise the changes in the ATX specification can be a real pain when trying to use a new PSU in an old computer. It may be better now thanks to LEDs and USB driving the 5V requirements back up again, but when CPUs first switched to a 12V header, PSUs designed for that didn't have enough 5V amps to work with older motherboards that ran the CPU VRM off 5V. (at least that's how I recall it)
I like these kind of youtube channels. I've also run into this kind of issues though I remember it was a q6600 system, the socket was hard to clean...
There are advantages to having an oversized psu, they tend to be most efficient at about 50-70% utilization, so you can get better efficiency by having a oversized psu vs one that is just big enough. On top of that, because the psu is running at let's say 50%, there will be less heat, and less load in general, so you get less wear on the components, most likely resulting in longer life.
Yep, still on 1200W PSU for my i5-2500k (non OC) / 1070Ti. MB/CPU from 2011. Still fine for me - gaming + development Win7/POPOS
I salute you Master Pc Jedi your tooth brush tricked like a charm. It was some Arctic ice in the pins. The loo roll was also useful but watch for the paper bits
Your video saved my ass! I was having the exact same problem with the exact same cpu. Thank you so much!
I finally found the video where you bought that AMD A8 cpu.
Love ASUS MB for Ryzen, on my third one now (2 PCs plus an upgrade for 3600 to a TUF gaming one). Easy to overclock on and configure
My ROG Strix B550-F board is so good.
it's never the cpu excpet when it is..... i love the way you work. thanks for sharing.
27:05
bruuhhh omg HAHA
what have you been doing back there?? XDD
i laughed so hard XD
shmeat
I was surprise to see you spray alcohol stray into the socket. Good to know you can do that. Wasn't sure that was possible. Thank you
AMD sockets don't have pins, instead they are on the CPU. I wouldn't do that with an Intel socket
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv If the alcohol dries off before you connect the CPU to its socket, it won´t be an issue. Though since LGA is quite sensible to touch, I would hardly encourage not to touch those pins with anything.
I just built my pc today and was having post issues I have a amd ryzen 5 3600 paired with a gigabyte b450m ds3h and was at a loss on why I could not get to the bios screen let alone see the display this shed so much light on trouble shooting my parts and what the best remedy is I have a AMD ryzen 2600 cpu arriving tomorrow to put in and get my 3700 to post and keep the other cpu for a later project thanks for the video !
Best diagnose / troubleshoot video ever, but still i unable to do all that, i dont have extra gpu, extra cpu to check the Bios, 🤦♂️
same problem
@@hossi1330 for future refrence, AMD will send out a loaner cpu to update your bios. If you don't send it back you have to pay for it but the loaner is free.
@@animeman64 They send you an Athlon 200ge. The think is, you need a half recent BIOS version to check it too.
Did they stop including the feature that lets you reflash without a cpu? Seems like a step backward, if so.
Sometimes you can buy pretty cheap parts for testing stuff, like those garbage AMD non-ryzen processors and some old but functional GPU's etc.. but of course you still have to pay something for them.
I've seen Standoff's Shorting the MB in the wrong place causing issues before.
Have a similar no post issue but my PC was working before. 3600 and asrock steel legend. I reseated the ram and then it starts to power cycling and not post.
nice video, i have a b350 pc mate latest bios with 1700, i changed case because my pc fell to the ground and now it wont boot, i tried a lot of what you did and nothing worked, i placed an order for a motherboard speaker to further diagnosticate
The Ryzen chips that have integrated graphics are the ones with a G at the end and the A series APUs of course.
Yep, called it. Seeing that board I sat there going "is that an A320, B350 or X370 chipset?" off comes the GPU, yeeep, X370, needs a BIOS update.
This was a great watch. I've been having the same problem.
seeing the cpu and socket being cleaned made me feel physical pain
A soft small paint brush?* That’s what I was thinking but I have a feeling it be too soft to fast / effective (not that I experimented), but I think those bristle will go around the metal pins as thet are short and bristles are long and flexable enough. I stopped cringing, just dont angle or push down too hard on the brush I guess. It’s pyshchological, to see a greasy toothbrush, hygene comes to mind in Adams defence. Good honest useful video. (*Some one may scream static @ me, i say wet.)
Don't you love the experts who knew what the problem was after a few minutes? I thought your method was fine. I have made many false assumptions when trying to problem solve since I started working with eight bit computers in the eighties with no hard drive and 5.25 inch floppy drives. I was so excited when I installed my first Seagate 5MB hard drive and progressed from green-screen graphics to the Colour Graphics Adapter, playing games like Leisure Suit Larry and Monkey Island.
As soon as you started on this one I knew it was a BIOS update. I have a b350 board from my old computer and have just purchased a 3000g and need to update the bios to support it.
@mister.T Jr I will be using my Ryzen 1600 to do the update and then swapping out for the Apu once it's done. Hopefully it will go smoothly, I am doing it today. Fingers crossed.
@mister.T Jr hi. I finished it yesterday evening , two bios updates (one was a bridge bios) but all in all it was a very smooth and straightforward process. The 3000g is better than my expectations.
@mister.T Jr totally agree CPUless bios updates would be a lot easier.
The thermal paste one helped me. Thanks
Looks similar to my problem. I'll see if I can download any needed update via my current (to be replaced with the build) Mac Mini.
Wild card: At first I got no fans, not even on the PSU. I put the open MoBo on its box and figured out I'd put the Ryzen 5 CPU in sideways. I'm hoping it's not damaged. The pins appeared OK... no force was used. I just lined up the triangle with what I thought was another triangle on the socket. I reset it and got a white LED on the MSI MB. I still haven't found out what that means. No speaker to make beeps, but no video at all. At least now the PSU, CPU and GC fans all work.
This is my first build since my last Win machine in about 1995. I went to Mac in about 2000. Now I'm a Linux guy. It's been OK on the Mini but that's starting to be too slow for what even browsers need these days. Wonder what info they're trading as I stare at a video or Facebook. Sometimes that HDD goes crazy!
My ryzen 3 3300x happened the same thing, I updated the bios to the lastest version and still no signal. I don't know what to do.
Mobo is b350m ds3h-v2 updated to F51
5mins into the video i already knew what the problem is and confirm when i saw the motherboard model i was talking to myself bios update bios update.
As soon as I seen the "No Post" I immediately said BIOS needs updating.
My Ryzen 7 1700 & MSI B350M Pro-VDH worked out of the box but updated it to the newest BIOS as soon as it booted to make it compatible with Ryzen 9 3700X.
you shouldn't be running a ryzen 9 3700X on that motherboard if you are...
It can make the VRMs run at excessive heat and excessive heat may kill the motherboard. the B350 or X370's VRMs are just too wimpy for those CPUs.
Gents, i had the same problem as you did, but my solution was a bit diffrent. As you, i have a ASROCK 370 X PRO4 and RYZEN 5 1500X and at power up no post but 5 short beeps. At the begining i thought it was the cpu, then the memory, then the mobo but in the end it was the keyboard. Belive it or not my mobo did not recognize my keyboard. To tell the truth i had an old 6-pin mini-DIN connector keyboard, now i have a usb keyboard and everything works perfect. So for those with old keyboards and encountring the problem we did try to change your keyboard firs.
Thank you for such great video!
To clean cpu pins and mobo socket did just used 99% isopropyl alcohol?
Did you know if there is any risk to clean them in that way? Theorically should be dielectric and volatile so even if penetrates inside should be fine after it dried for good but... You know I want be sure
Looking at the motherboard in this video. I checked the support page and looks like the first bios release was from early 2017. Latest bios thus far was late 2024. It supports all CPUs, including x3d like 5700x3d. So this motherboard has had support for almost 8 years thus far. AM4 has had quite the journey. And the fact that you can put a 5700x3d into this motherboard today and have gaming performance similar to an AM5 R7 7700 is pretty sickomode. pcie gen.3 VS gen.4 is really not a problem either. Especially when using graphics cards that has all 16 lanes. Even the ones with only 8 lanes shows very little difference. And for M.2 NVME you wouldn't notice the difference for regular use anyway. No wonder the 5700x3Ds are selling like crazy. LUL. Insane
You may not like ASUS boards but their slogan really describes your work well: "In search for the incredible".
Honestly I'm ready to bury the hatchet with Asus... their modern stuff is great and I don't seem to see dead ones all the time like I used to.
Wonder how many customers took there systems back to the shop for refunds or took them to a dodgy shop where they would charge for a new board but only updated the bios or made them pay a lot more.. they do now notify about updating the firmware but back then I bet manufacturers had a nightmare with this.. good that some board support USB flash firmware updating especially when AMD are bringing out new generations CPUs and there no support for them in the firmware. good video... i actually was stumped watching the video until you shown the board's chipset .. i was thinking it was a dodgy reset switch just shorting all the time was my bet.. but when i saw the IO shield I had a shiver go down my back .. so hate them daft cut out on the panel like bloody razor blades too so sharp... anyway good video bit old but your videos are relaxing .. actually I watch a lot of videos and yours is more relaxing than Linus, JaysTwoCents ect lol i only watch 5 minutes of there and Evblogs too long but yours maybe because it reminds me of when I had a shop in UK and how its so similar. Good video
Hello, I would like to know if I can order the grey adapter you used to plug-in the power cables to the motherboard. Thank you in advance and I love your videos. They’re very helpful.
great video. I had a similar problem. including the thermo paste on the cpu. Unfortunately my board was compatible with my cpu(tuf game x570 wifi) so it couldnt have been the bios. After replacing every component with the exception of the cpu my build still did not post. So I guess my new ryzen 7 3800x died on me. waiting for my new cpu to test everything out again. I don't for see not posting considering unless I'm extremely unlucky...Good video, it gave me some reassurance that I checked everything possible.
im having same problem with a ryzen 5 3600 and X570 Pro. no post. sent MB back got replacent. no post. Now sent cup back
@@zarg05 for me, it was my CPU and GPU. PC working now. Hard to say if my MB was also bad. replaced CPU, MB, and GPU. I feel all 3 were bad. CPU is the last thing you thing could be bad, specifically when is new and it worked initially.
@@zarg05 cup? CPU? Does your mb have integrated graphics? Mine didnt so I was not able to check mb a different way. Good luck
my Ryzen 5 1600 PC died, so I'm just using my Athlon II X4 640 PC because I currently don't have the money to get a new one since I'm unemployed because I got fired from my last job and the COVID-19 pandemic has made it hard to get a new one.
I had this exact problem when updating from my Ryzen 5 2600x to the Ryzen 7 3700x, felt like crying when it didn't work, some research later, I found i needed to update BIOS from F32 to F40, was relieved when it booted. glad I didn't spend £300 on a paper weight.
Two days ago in my own build I had almost the exact same problem. But for me, I had simply inserted the 4-pin part of the 20+4 pin power connector in the wrong orientation. I had failed to notice there was a reason for the extra plastic parts sticking out to indicate how the 20-pin and 4-pin parts should be aligned together.
I used to always just run the PSU+CPU+CPU FAN only - no RAM, no graphics, no other wires/connections/monitor/drives, etc. except for 'beeper speaker' if one wasn't already fitted. Then listen for the beeps - if no beeps then CPU is not running - simple! Then feel CPU to see if warm. Once you get beeps, start by adding RAM, then graphics (if required), then boot hard disk, then rest of stuff. step by step until problem is found. It saves time in the end.
Oh the old cpu not supported yet issue. Thought it was going to be a need to clear cmos because the ram is at the wrong clock rate or board was shorted or something. Asus is the one that actually WORKS in my experience. My b350 prime can flash in the bios from disc but some directories are not visible for some reason.
16:13 why is CPU
fan not plugged in??
I think big PSU's are a carryover from an age where people might have a LOT of spinning drives in addition to big wattage CPUS.
Yep but also big thirsty multi graphics card set ups.
I love the example he gave for a 1000w PSU in another video! "6 GHz liquid nitrogen cooled CPU and a quad-SLI graphics setup" or something like that haha
Nice work brother! What is your “go-to” for diagnosing CPUs with likely shorts(soldered on or removable) that won’t POST video?
*assumptions: known good ram, power, e.g., min sys configuration to achieve post
Thx!!
you read on bios page "to support new CPUS" but the bios above that said the same... so that one was for 1000series ryzens and the next for 2000
PC turns on cpu cooler,psu fan,cooling fans, are spinning VGA fans aren't spinning but LED's working on VGA. MSI EZ DEBUG indicates CPU and quickly indicates VGA."NO SIGNAL" on monitor cannot get into bios.
Note:- this was the first boot up I was able to install windows it worked nearly 2 hours and suddenly monitor showed "NO SIGNAL". I couldn't install/update bios,drivers,etc plz help?
If the debug LEDs are moving over to VGA and stopping there, it sounds like a graphics card issue. Try testing the card in another computer, or putting a different card in.
That was thrilling! Great to watch a master at work... eliminating the obvious and discovering the fail. Thanks much. This might help me resolve a similar issue with a Ryzen 3700x (suxorz that there's no CPU graphics).
Install a beep speaker if there isn't one.
Those early boot diagnostic beeps (or their absence) will give you a lot of information if you have to run headless.
@@TheTurnipKing When you "have nothing else"... those little beeps can tell you all you need to know!
that board must have had the USB 3.1 header ripped off cause that board does come with the plastic plugin for it but if you pull at it wrong you can rip them off to leave bare pins which are not good. makes me think this is not a new board and that it was just upgraded to the 2600x only
yes it has built in graphics were do you plug the monitor many boards got no way to do it
Nicely done, I was beginning to wonder if the Reset switch was faulty S/C.
I have a GA-AX370 GAMING K7 and my new ryzen 9 won't boot. Fans and everything comes on but the cpu on-board warning light is going off. How do I reset a safe mode to flash it. It doesn't start up so I may run a thumb drive with drivers on it.
YOu need to get it to POST with a compatible CPU first if it does not have FLASHBACK ability (i.e., ability to update BIOS without CPU)
Can you have troubleshooting video content regarding power supply? I would be great for viewer like us doesn’t have any idea what’s going on power supply like some on computers that have power supply…Many Thanks!
I have no plans for it at the moment... PSUs are more complicated than people think. A lot of folks parrot the "just replace the capacitors" line, but there's a great deal more than just caps that can go wrong, and many faults require you to reverse-engineer the switch mode controllers and then probe their outputs with a scope to check for anomalies... and it goes on. Generally not worth it when most PSUs are < $100.
curious to know how much he charged the client considering he had to pay for the apu
Client was not charged any extra for that. This video is somewhat obsolete now, what with Ryzen 4000 on the horizon, but that APU paid for itself over the next year with the amount of mobos I BIOS updated with it!
In retrospect, I should've bought a second hand Ryzen 1200, as the APU caused problems in some places. But we're about to see all the tables turned on their heads with Zen 3 anyway.
@@Adamant_IT so how much did u charge for this repair?
@@Милошмилош-ц2г He ain't gonna tell you that! 😂😂😂
@@Милошмилош-ц2г hope this helps:
in some cases (like when new components/issues come to the market) you spend a long time diagnosing a problem. you can't charge for 10hrs of (guess) work, so you lose money/time on the first ones.
as times goes by, the same problems reoccur and you're able to fix them quicker and recover the lost time...
ps: the actual price is based on location and all that. some places charge $50 for a BIOS update and that's acceptable but in other places $10 may be very expensive...
@@duroxkilo Some of the bad companies I have seen charge £100 for putting in ram sticks! and about £80 for putting in a SSD or hard drive! So imagine how much actual repairs are!
At mark 32:46 in the video what is the the thing called you are plugging the power and rest buttons called?
I'm not sure what I'd call it... I'd call it's a front panel connector block, but I can't find any useful results when searching. They come with motherboards sometimes to make it easier to quickly disconnect/connect the FP wires.
Thanks for this vid. My problem is I only get a 1 sec flash of the LED's down around the audio section. Using Ryzen 3 2200G, 1 year old. I upgraded my main PC with the Ryzen 7 2700. Hard for me to believe it is bad. Got Amazon Warehouse deal for Aorus B450 M. Sent it back and the 2nd one does the same thing. The Bios/UEFI should be fine. What are the odds that Amazon has sent me 2 bad boards. So now I have ordered the Ryzen 3 3200G, I hope it does not need an updated bios for 3rd gen. And I should mention that I have tried this in 2 different cases with 2 different power supplies.
The B450 Aorus M is... a troubled child. Really seems to be luck of the draw with that board.
@@Adamant_IT Turned out I got a new cpu and it worked.
Whats the point of brushing the cpu pins and socket? If you have done LN2 and have used vasoline or some kind of sealer to stop condensation, then yes I would recommend this. But otherwise this is ultimately pointless and even potentially dangerous to the hardware.
Did you watch the video with sound? He said it is to get rid of the thermal paste on the pins of the CPU. There isn't really any potential danger as he is using IPA which isn't conductive and Graham will 100% be careful with it.
@@loganparker4184 When you break a customers hardware and have to fix it or pay for it. You will understand what I'm saying. The is unnecessary and could cost him a lot of money if he were to knock a pin or 2 off the CPU or even damage the socket. Unless it was being used for liquid nitrogen or something similar. You should never touch the socket or pins. Never risk what you don't have to. This is basic computer building 101.
Thank you you just saved me I realized my Ryzen 3 3100 doesn't have onboard graphics I was planning to buy and gtx 1060 down the line but apparently to get a post you need a gpu or onboard graphics
Smacks of my problem to the `T`, great diagnosis. If there was a way to flash the bios w/o posting to the bios that would be handy :p guess I'm stuck buying an slightly older cpu
- CPU: Ryzen 5 2600
- CPU Cooler: Wraith Stealth Cooler
- MOBO: ASUS B450 AMD Ryzen 2 Micro ATX Gaming Motherboard AM4 DDR4 HDMI DVI VGA M.2 USB 3.1 Gen2 (Prime B450M-A/CSM)
- RAM: Patriot Viper Elite Series 2666MHz / PC4-21300 / PVE432GG2666C6KGY
- PSU: Thermaltake Smart 700W 80+ White Certified PSU, Continuous Power with 120mm Ultra Quiet Fan, ATX 12V V2.3/EPS 12V Active PFC Power Supply PS-SPD-0700NPCWUS-W
- Chassis: Thermaltake Core V21 SPCC Micro ATX Cube Computer Chassis CA-1D5-00S1WN-00
I did get some thermal paste on my 2700X the other day. The Motherboard didn´t even recognize the CPU. I though for a sec i fried it, because I was a bit reckless while turning off the PC and demounting everything.
I just had to replace 2 X570 Taichi motherboards and a R9 3900X - all of which were covered under warranty. I went to an X570 Aorus Master because I now don't trust Asrock. Plus I have to recommend against buying from Amazon Australia as I did for the CPU because they only give a 30day warranty.
Done a BIOS update, still not working, help?!
Ok i have an x470 mobo with ryzen 5 2600x cpu and Msi geforce 1660 super and I’m not getting a post could the problem be the same as in this video or something different?
Looking back on this 6 years later, I see one schoolboy error. A lot of motherboards won’t start, if you don’t have a cpu fan plugged in.
hello there you have very good and clear explain .its really very good helpfull.i got the same problems.i try to solve your way.but the problem is still now BIOS not shown up.do have any more idea.can you give me any advice please.
Seriously dat cable tie on the 4+2 PCI-E triggered me immensely. Why would you do that? That cable has a little plastic clap to hold it together. This one didn't?
I also had to buy an APU for a BIOS update to my B450 to fit a Ryzen 3600.
I've also had a 486 get killed by thermal paste in the socket and on the CPU pins.
Cleaning that thing up enough that it could boot reliably was a challenge. Ended up swapping the CPU anyways.
Also, I feel called out. (FX4100 OC 4.5GHz, R9 290X. Could challenge my 750w Antec.)
I just built a pc. Ryzon 5 3600 with MSI X570 Pro. No post. I salvaged some parts from old pc ie power supply HDD Rom drive. Having same problem. I sent MB back and got replacement still not posting. sent CPU back awaiting replacement. after watching your video I think I may still have problem. HDD graphics card and PSU definitely work as I put back in old pc so I can stream music video and get online.
Exactaly the same problem face with my new build. msi B550M Pro VDH with Ryzen 5600G. No response at al.... No bios posting... No display😩😩😩 the terrible fact is that i didn't have any spare apu's for Bios update
So, i once again shipped my MOBO to retailer for updating bios. Waiting.... Hope that it could work....
You can update the BIOS externally
The reason that the "used" A8 you bought looked so new -it was because it was used for 10 mins to update bios, then listed for sale on Ebay. Simple simple.
Alot of these Boards are not 2nd Gen Ryzen ready, u have to use old chip like a 2200G to update BIOS...
Some early X470 boards might not even work with the 2200G...as those came months after the 2200, 2300, etc..
Do you think that Is reasonable to cool a 3950x with a High level air cooler such as the be quiet dark rock 4 (not the pro version) without doing overclock ?
I don't have any first-hand experience, but looking around online the answer seems to be 'yes' 👍
I'm new to custom pc building. What does it mean by NO POST?
got a similar problem with ryzen5 2500x in aurous b450 (they are compatible) but getting dram led fault, tested with 2 sets of compatible ram and had 3 mobos, each time mobo worked for a time when new (cleared cmos on each) and got the same fault 3 times not sure what is, as CPU has worked in each mobo when bought new, new PSU also so it ain't that could it be the CPU? just strange as workes for a time and the just won't boot. (am not dumb to computers as-built systems since 97' but am stumped)
The Auros B450 boards are... sketchy. Different choice of BIOS version might help it.
@@Adamant_IT had bios update problems on last 2 boards think the are bricked IDK, but mobo 3 had a recent bios maybe 3 from latest but all seemed okay left on overnight windows had frozen tryed hard boot and now wont boot dram led on constant, same prob 3 times 3 mobo different bios versions, stummped recomend and brands or mobo that ate reliable with ryzen gen 2.
The newer MSI B450 boards (Tomahawk Max / Motar Max) are probably the best B450 boards right now I'd say. I don't think you'll find anything better without going into X470/X570 categories.
@@Adamant_ITit literally just gone completely no no more gigabyte for me cheers