@@R2_D3 Heat actually is! Usually as a result of dust. Electronics hate em'. "THIS ONE TRICK THAT COMPUTER COMPANIES DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW...BUT THEY CANT STOP YOU!"
I used to fix computers in the -00's and absolutely loved the debugging and troubleshooting. These days I prefer just watching professionals at their job and get a kick out of trying to guess what's wrong before you solve the issue. I really enjoy these videos, thank you!
Hey me too from 2003-2007.....more of a hobbyist now...i watch these tech vids to refresh and keep up with the current hardware.......you could have knocked me over with a feather the first time i saw an M.2 SSD.....just wow.....going from a brick of a drive to one thats the size of a stick of gum?.....love this stuff Side Note: that was also the last time i saw a Fatality board ........around 2006, roughly
Thank you for the programmer recommendation. 👍 BTW, 5:22 this assumption made an ass out of me *once* . A motherboard refused to forget its settings no matter how long I kept that jumper in the shorted position. CMOS reset worked only when I removed the battery, turned it sideways and used it to short the 2 pins for 5-10 seconds. Also, *very* important - when you turn off a PC (or any device) to do hardware manipulations, *always* hold the case power button pressed in and even pump it a couple of times to completely discharge all residual electricity from the caps. This is why even when you just turned the PC off and unplugged the power cable when you go to press the button, fans will still try to spin and the MB's power indication LED is still glowing. 😉
Incase you didn't notice, when you rebooted into UEFI-A, 38:04 there is an option to flash the A -> B like there was before to B -> A incase you really did want to update both, with out having to use your USB drive. Theoretically this should also back up any customized user settings (XMP, overclocks, etc) in UEFI setup to the other EUFI chip.
Second time I've watched this one, but the first time I stayed on to the final comments about the phase activity LEDs. Love your enthusiasm and energy 😀
Interesting one, great that you were persistent enough to actually find the issue and solve it properly, i'm sure a good number of b&M repair shops would have just called it a day and said the motherboard needs replacing.
Back in pentium 3 age I made a Bios hot switch between a dead mother board and another live... because flash process fails and brick my board in a first place. I booted the OK, with PSU ON, boot DOS 6.22, then I changed chip memory, and run a bios update IN DOS. It ran like a charm... :)
NICE! 👍 You remind me of when I added a DDR2 stick to the MB *live* once - an incredibly stupid mistake by distracted me. Surprisingly, the PC didn't even froze. 👀 Out of curiosity, I tried to turned it off from Windows and it worked. Followed by disconnecting the power cable, pumping the power button and then reseating both sticks just in case. Turned on just fine, worked fine and held stability and memory tests like a boss. I can't believe my luck and I wouldn't even believe this story if I didn't live it! Got so scared back then - trust me, I *did not* repeat that mistake ever since! 🤣
this is why motherboards need two bioses, love this bios setup it was always a life saver. I to have fixed by flashing chips with the 341 programmer, i think it was called that. TechYesCity did one about Bit ROT where he fixed a mobo by simply reflashing the chip with a new copy. Anyways great videos, big fan
Tip for you from 16 years of working with Beep Speakers: Eff em! Get a cheap LED (3v White Strawhat is best IMO) and solder it to a standard connector and put it in the place of the speaker! You can just watch the LED pulse then and it'll show you visually rather than audibly, and that makes diagnosing easier.
I just found your channel and have been really enjoying your videos. I like hearing your troubleshooting explained in detail speaking to even beginner levels like me. So many channels expect viewers to be at their knowledge level. Thanks for bringing us along with you
Too close to home, oh brother in repairs - I have an older Fatal1ty MB with a Gen 2 CPU. My last boot failure turned out to be a bad optical drive. That old system still does my favourite games with no mouse lag and makes me smile a lot. Glad you're looking good and good health to you.
Quick tip: If your MB doesn't have a 'clear cmos' button, short the battery connector when you remove the battery for reset. It'll do that when you touch the positive to negative on the battery holder/connector.
You wouldn't believe what I've seen. This one time doing a favor for a mate cleaning out his PC I slid off the cover. What I found inside was the thing of nightmares which still haunts my dreams. There was a dust ball the size of a large house cat laying in the bottom of the case in front of the PSU. I hauled that out and spotted the CPU cooler which had little trails that the pet dander had left in the dust caked beneith the fan. The graphics cards heatsink wasn't any better. The power supply was chock full of dust too. I honestly can't say how it managed to survive being blocked up like that but I got it all cleaned up like new. There was dust and hair in every nook and cranny of that machine though. We had to chuck the optical drive in the bin. There was no way to clean the optical path without buggering it up.
good video. a corrupted bios can do alot of funky stuff. you got the good luck of the draw that that particular mommyboard had two bios chips and at least one bios was working. i know some manuals dont recommend updating bios but the motherboard manufacturers recommend you update the bios to at least a non beta as there are updates that the manufacturer have implemented to fix small bugs theyve found. if not for the backup bios that wasnt corrupted and bios chips that had been soldered into place the board replacement would have been required. people, update your stinking bios and also keep your pcs airdusted and replace your darn cmos battery every now and then, as their charge cycles are finite and can eventually wear down to no use
The DDR3 DIMM should be on slot A1 and A2, not B1 and B2 like wee see in the bios. But no problemo, for the french man i am, your english is crystal clear and your channel interesting for somebody like me who's working for 32 year in IT and electronic and who's going to leave sooner is job to make the same job as you.
well I saw a PC that was thrown out, and when I checked what CPU was in it, I was very happy because it was a 2600K. This was some years ago now. Unfortunately I soon learned that the reason the system was thrown out, was because it had a dead CPU... presumably too much voltage for too long, or someone accidentally gave it way too much at once. basically, I'd argue it can be the CPU, but only if it's a K series :D
Over my 25 years, working on, building, repairing computers a have seen a few (only a few) dead CPUs. It can happen. I have learnt to follow my instincts but also never rule anything out (cables, foreign object (paper clip, screws, etc). Also good to get the motherboard out of the enclosure / case to get a good look at the board and the mounts (within the case).
I remember the days when you had 2 bios chips, an odd and even bios chips and even the keyboard had its own separate bios - back then the beep codes actually meant something specific other than memory - a good start is to pull every single card and cable out that isnt absolutely needed to boot - I have seen bent pins on ps2 and usb ports and even on one occasion a duff MS optical mouse prevent a system booting and cause it to sit there beeping on an opti chipset board - BIOS beep codes are specific to the brand of Bios can be specific to the board, in days of old you would get a schematic and list of beep codes at the back of the manual to point you in the right direction - back then there were IRQ and DMA jumpers to set too...
41:00 Many new motherboards have a USB flash port so you can flash the BIOS without entering BIOS (you don't even need a CPU). So adding sockets will not help the regular user because he will not have any hardware to use to flash it.
Hi, I have encountered, even if rarely, situations like yours, and the malfunction is difficult to identify. I always replaced the CMOS battery every time for safety, even if the motherboard was of recent construction. congratulations for the video. Ciao, mi sono capitate, anche se raramente, situazioni come la tua, e il malfunzionamento e di difficile individuazione. Tutte le volte ho sempre sostituito la Batteria CMOS per sicurezza, anche se la piastra madre era di recente costruzione. complimenti per il video.
man, just discover your channel and love it! troubleshooting step by step the way you do, explain so good different possibilities and specific things about electronics, chips, etc. Thanks
It might need, reapplying some Arctic Heat Sink Compond, and some dust cleaning. My computer nothing, disassembled some parts, did the vacuum cleaner mode, manually cleaned everything, fan and etc. And it started right up and more quietly.
Dust plus high humidity can cause issues I have found. Semi shorts can corrupt the cmos. I had one computer come in for repair once that had 5 years of dust mixed with cigarette smoke. Everything was sticky, yellow/orange/brown and absolutly disgusting. If i recall I just washed the board down with starting fluid. I was able to get it going again but it was worn out and very outdated.
at first i thought it was the molex on board missing power.. i learned something today.. backup B-A feature. win-raid has a good Intel ME section in forums.. i would update backup bios to 1.xx newer at least. some manufacturers usually give at least an SPi header if not socketed.
The ME is for remotely managing the PC via intels vpro software, not really used as much nowadays with the move to thin clients. Its a bit like the lights out management via dell idrac system for example.
BIOS Selection Jumper (BIOS_SEL1) (see p.6, No. 24) his motherboard has two BIOS onboard, a main BIOS (BIOS_A) and a backup BIOS (BIOS_B), which enhances protection for the safety and stability of your system. Normally, the system works on the main BIOS. However, if the main BIOS is corrupted or damaged, please use a jumper cap to short pin2 and pin3, then the backup BIOS will take over on the next system boot. Ater that, use “Secure Backup UEFI“ in BIOS setup utility to copy the BIOS ile to the main BIOS to ensure normal system operation. For the sake of system safety, users cannot update the backup BIOS manually. Users may refer to the BIOS LED (BIOS_A_ LED or BIOS_B_LED) to identify which BIOS is activated currently.
Great video again. I really enjoy watching the videos you make about fixing and building pc's. I also learn from your videos so I can improve my own pc building and fixing skills. Thank you sir
im really starting to enjoy , watching .. a real stumpper .. l.o.l .. i hav a similar problem w/no post .. i too hav probably watched numerous vids on particular problem .. most as u saw , almost all say something diffrent .. but i hav seen a couple intriguing .. well carry on .. i may put mine aside befor i do something I'll regret later .. l.o.l ..
Your methods are fine, basically what I'd have done, check all cables and reset bios then it's the elimination game, I did with my MB left the backup Bios as is that way I know it works
Intel ME is the management engine that runs with "Greater than God" access and supervises the memory access by the CPU. If the ME firmware gets altered by malware, it is effectively a Rootkit that cannot be removed.
ME is the management platform done by Intel, which has some features which are useful for corporate desktops or servers (like iLO, anti-theft, etc.) but which are pretty much useless for consumer desktops. People are squicky about it because it can (in theory) use the Ethernet interface to "phone home" even when the system is off, because the ME chip is powered off the +5sb.
id start by disconnecting everything off the board and see what happens. next id try removing the bios battery & shorting the pins to force a reset if it has one.
Most of the common AMI/Award/Phoenix bios beep codes usually relate to legacy boards. With UEFI the manufacturers seem to make up their own beep meanings and usually differ from each other. Asrock's manual for that board contains no information on beep codes, so bit out of luck. I did notice that it had PCI slots, so maybe a diagnostic post card would have been more of a help. My cheap post card has helped in many situations, unfortunately none of my current PC's have PCI slots, all PCIe.
I remember a time when mobos came with a hardcopy of a manual that had appendices including one with all the beep codes and what they meant. It can be the CPU. A few years ago my wife turned on the shower, there was a loud crack and the magic smoke was released. When I opened up my PC there was a small crater in the CPU, several tracks were burned off the mobo and the 12v rails were missing from the PSU.
@Adamant IT, The short explanation is: Intel ME means Intel Management Engine. It is intended as low level remote management utility for enterprises and businesses. It does not need an OS running, to manage general access to a computer, on UEFI/Bios level for managing time, date, power profile, noise profile.... ETC.... by Enterprise IT teams to enterprise employee computers in their endless to provide a reasonable balance between performance and power savings on one side and reasonable balance between security and usability on the other side. It is Greatly misunderstood by people as a way to control your computer and spy on you. In order to work, this management utility needs Layer 2 access between the managed computer and the managing computers and works only on both computers are within the same vlan.
Yea this is correct, I've never actually spotted which chip is holding parameters, but as it's all part of "the bios chip circuit" I generally treat it as a single thing. At some point I want to make a video that talks about this in greater detail though 👌
This is why we charge the premiums we do as repair technicians. Sometimes even with a well thought out diagnostic process, one tiny thing will have you circling around for far too long lol.
Please keep in mind Adam, that resetting a BIOS, or any other type of initial memory in any device, can force this device to enter a loop mode. In this mode, might act abnormally. So, this might be the reason, why your last attempt before the post was still no post and, that's why, I do wait longer with all electronic devices after this reset.
I forget to mention it in the videos, however I do usually wait quite a while on boot attempts, but cut the video. Otherwise there'd be like, 15mins more of just dead space. Memory training has a distinctive pattern as well, you can tell when the board is training vs when it's not going to POST.
what i always start with is switching the main storage device. The only thing i use linux for is for a universal boot device, just to confirm none of the other components are the fault.
@@1pcfred Both have their uses. When I set up a minecraft server for friends I use linux just because its lightweight and wont have anything running in the background but it doesn't suit me for a daily driver, I tried :p It's all down to what you do the most, whichever works for your use case. you aren't gonna go anywhere making jokes about an operating system lol. It's just software at the end of the day, it has no feelings to hurt.
@@noodle_Cx I am not sure what you mean when you say, "wont have anything running in the background" as Linux typically has a lot running as background processes. I started less than 30% of the processes running on my PC right now. The rest of it all is OS overhead. Most of it I've no idea even what it is. But apparently it is critical that it be running. Because honestly things have been working rather well lately. So I'm not one to upset the apple cart. If my OS thinks I need gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor then who am I to argue? Even if I don't have the first clue what that does. Apparently it is a memory leak watchdog. Knowing how poorly the Gnome team codes I probably do need it. Not that I use Gnome but I use some of their applications. They're clearly cognizant of their own shortcomings too. Or they would not have blessed us with this program.
Two beeps means there has been a parity error in base memory. This is an issue with the first 64KB block of memory in your RAM. The solution is usually to replace the memory
Intel ME is... rubbish 💩 it’s supposed to be an “out of band” platform, just like iLO or DRAC on servers, but this only applies to machines with vPro CPUs and AMT technology, workstations and professional laptops. It works as the TPM module for some laptops too, as part of intel PTT. The problem is that ME is part of every single Intel machine since 2008, no matter of what modules (AMT, PTT, secure boot) are present. ME is active as long as the power cable is inserted, has access to memory (the cpu doesn’t even notice) and it has full access to the network stack.
So true, and if ME gets corrupted then your ethernet connection might be screwed. Or computer might behave weird. There are tools to dump old ME and fix it and load back, but it is tedious process.
@@DJ-Daz It is being continuously patched. More and more exploits are found, it is just best target for exploits. Your firewall, os or antivirus won’t be able to see anything.
I like to reflash BIOS and be it just with the same version to prevent electrical degredation of the BIOS just in case especially when the BIOS never has been updated or the update is a few years back... Might be just a tick but I never had problems going this route...
And with the programmer you can nicly fry the chip. It's driving at 5V io and 3.3V vcc. Some bios may survive some not and witg 1.8V bios it's very likely dead averwards.
All those beeps were Morse Code for 'Clean me'.
Yeah. found it particularly annoying that this computer hadn't been cleaned in quite some time.
🤣
Dust is reason nr 1 why computers die!
@@R2_D3 Heat actually is! Usually as a result of dust. Electronics hate em'. "THIS ONE TRICK THAT COMPUTER COMPANIES DONT WANT YOU TO KNOW...BUT THEY CANT STOP YOU!"
@@williamjones4483 you would die if you see my sleeper builds with extra dust cultivated with care
I used to fix computers in the -00's and absolutely loved the debugging and troubleshooting. These days I prefer just watching professionals at their job and get a kick out of trying to guess what's wrong before you solve the issue. I really enjoy these videos, thank you!
what do u do now? i currently fix computers lol
Hey me too from 2003-2007.....more of a hobbyist now...i watch these tech vids to refresh and keep up with the current hardware.......you could have knocked me over with a feather the first time i saw an M.2 SSD.....just wow.....going from a brick of a drive to one thats the size of a stick of gum?.....love this stuff
Side Note: that was also the last time i saw a Fatality board ........around 2006, roughly
Late 80's till now. Though while I was the geek guru to go to back then now I seem to have trouble keeping up with all the new stuff. lol
That is ok, adapt and overcome, do your best :)
Challenging no POSTs are always interesting to watch!
I like the no POST videos
most of them are just corrupted bioses 😂
these are the ones i really enjoy trying to second guess you and trying to get to the fix before you never got there yet but i live in hope😁
Thank you for the programmer recommendation. 👍 BTW, 5:22 this assumption made an ass out of me *once* . A motherboard refused to forget its settings no matter how long I kept that jumper in the shorted position. CMOS reset worked only when I removed the battery, turned it sideways and used it to short the 2 pins for 5-10 seconds. Also, *very* important - when you turn off a PC (or any device) to do hardware manipulations, *always* hold the case power button pressed in and even pump it a couple of times to completely discharge all residual electricity from the caps. This is why even when you just turned the PC off and unplugged the power cable when you go to press the button, fans will still try to spin and the MB's power indication LED is still glowing. 😉
BIOS chips can't live with them, can't boot without them!!!! nice video Graham
Incase you didn't notice, when you rebooted into UEFI-A, 38:04 there is an option to flash the A -> B like there was before to B -> A incase you really did want to update both, with out having to use your USB drive. Theoretically this should also back up any customized user settings (XMP, overclocks, etc) in UEFI setup to the other EUFI chip.
As Northridgefix says, it's not "I did it." It's "We did it." All your success belongs to us.
Da comrade
Hahaha.....nice
Didn't see you next to him. 🤔
Second time I've watched this one, but the first time I stayed on to the final comments about the phase activity LEDs. Love your enthusiasm and energy 😀
"Singing a whole tune" brilliant!
You took us the moon & back with this one & I loved the trip!
Interesting one, great that you were persistent enough to actually find the issue and solve it properly, i'm sure a good number of b&M repair shops would have just called it a day and said the motherboard needs replacing.
Boot up on backup bios. When in the bios, switch to the main bios and reflash it. You nailed it at 33.45.
omg that extra clip at the end. I love it too!
Back in pentium 3 age I made a Bios hot switch between a dead mother board and another live... because flash process fails and brick my board in a first place. I booted the OK, with PSU ON, boot DOS 6.22, then I changed chip memory, and run a bios update IN DOS. It ran like a charm... :)
NICE! 👍 You remind me of when I added a DDR2 stick to the MB *live* once - an incredibly stupid mistake by distracted me. Surprisingly, the PC didn't even froze. 👀 Out of curiosity, I tried to turned it off from Windows and it worked. Followed by disconnecting the power cable, pumping the power button and then reseating both sticks just in case. Turned on just fine, worked fine and held stability and memory tests like a boss. I can't believe my luck and I wouldn't even believe this story if I didn't live it! Got so scared back then - trust me, I *did not* repeat that mistake ever since! 🤣
this is why motherboards need two bioses, love this bios setup it was always a life saver. I to have fixed by flashing chips with the 341 programmer, i think it was called that. TechYesCity did one about Bit ROT where he fixed a mobo by simply reflashing the chip with a new copy. Anyways great videos, big fan
Tip for you from 16 years of working with Beep Speakers: Eff em! Get a cheap LED (3v White Strawhat is best IMO) and solder it to a standard connector and put it in the place of the speaker! You can just watch the LED pulse then and it'll show you visually rather than audibly, and that makes diagnosing easier.
One thing I have learnt about this
Always pull all accessories first
Pull battery and clear bios
And start from ground zero
I nearly always start with isolation test.
I just found your channel and have been really enjoying your videos. I like hearing your troubleshooting explained in detail speaking to even beginner levels like me. So many channels expect viewers to be at their knowledge level. Thanks for bringing us along with you
I was like yelling reset the backup bios when he didn’t do that
Too close to home, oh brother in repairs - I have an older Fatal1ty MB with a Gen 2 CPU. My last boot failure turned out to be a bad optical drive. That old system still does my favourite games with no mouse lag and makes me smile a lot. Glad you're looking good and good health to you.
Quick tip:
If your MB doesn't have a 'clear cmos' button, short the battery connector when you remove the battery for reset. It'll do that when you touch the positive to negative on the battery holder/connector.
when u remove the battery the capacitors would last only a few seconds then go to 0.0v, no need to short any pins
You wouldn't believe what I've seen. This one time doing a favor for a mate cleaning out his PC I slid off the cover. What I found inside was the thing of nightmares which still haunts my dreams. There was a dust ball the size of a large house cat laying in the bottom of the case in front of the PSU. I hauled that out and spotted the CPU cooler which had little trails that the pet dander had left in the dust caked beneith the fan. The graphics cards heatsink wasn't any better. The power supply was chock full of dust too. I honestly can't say how it managed to survive being blocked up like that but I got it all cleaned up like new. There was dust and hair in every nook and cranny of that machine though. We had to chuck the optical drive in the bin. There was no way to clean the optical path without buggering it up.
i love my 290x that card is a thing of beauty
Thank you for giving me ideas to fix a no post situation I am facing right now. Thanks for your hard work and dedication to the craft!
The joy you evidently experience when it's all sorted out, brilliant!
good video. a corrupted bios can do alot of funky stuff. you got the good luck of the draw that that particular mommyboard had two bios chips and at least one bios was working. i know some manuals dont recommend updating bios but the motherboard manufacturers recommend you update the bios to at least a non beta as there are updates that the manufacturer have implemented to fix small bugs theyve found. if not for the backup bios that wasnt corrupted and bios chips that had been soldered into place the board replacement would have been required. people, update your stinking bios and also keep your pcs airdusted and replace your darn cmos battery every now and then, as their charge cycles are finite and can eventually wear down to no use
Great diagnostic video, enjoyed the ride! Looking forward to the next one.
The DDR3 DIMM should be on slot A1 and A2, not B1 and B2 like wee see in the bios. But no problemo, for the french man i am, your english is crystal clear and your channel interesting for somebody like me who's working for 32 year in IT and electronic and who's going to leave sooner is job to make the same job as you.
"Take everything with a pinch of salt"....good advice!
In my ~30 years of building/repairing computers, I have NEVER witnessed a CPU fail.
Like you said, it's never the CPU. Lol
well I saw a PC that was thrown out, and when I checked what CPU was in it, I was very happy because it was a 2600K. This was some years ago now. Unfortunately I soon learned that the reason the system was thrown out, was because it had a dead CPU... presumably too much voltage for too long, or someone accidentally gave it way too much at once.
basically, I'd argue it can be the CPU, but only if it's a K series :D
It's never the CPU. Except when it is.
@@Adamant_IT I can fully agree with that lol.
Over my 25 years, working on, building, repairing computers a have seen a few (only a few) dead CPUs. It can happen. I have learnt to follow my instincts but also never rule anything out (cables, foreign object (paper clip, screws, etc). Also good to get the motherboard out of the enclosure / case to get a good look at the board and the mounts (within the case).
@@Adamant_IT ...but it's never the CPU... except when it is.
Hi Adam thanks for sharing your vast knowledge and experience
Great video, and I applaud the coffee cup choice as well. Yay.
I like that where you can go to b and reprogram a. That is a really nice feature.
those cooler master are super popular in older 1155 builds, people was super obssesed with heatpipes
44:16 I used to have the phase LEDs on my old Gigabyte Super Overclock GTX470. 11 phase design so 11 LEDs...was damn cool haha
I remember the days when you had 2 bios chips, an odd and even bios chips and even the keyboard had its own separate bios - back then the beep codes actually meant something specific other than memory - a good start is to pull every single card and cable out that isnt absolutely needed to boot - I have seen bent pins on ps2 and usb ports and even on one occasion a duff MS optical mouse prevent a system booting and cause it to sit there beeping on an opti chipset board - BIOS beep codes are specific to the brand of Bios can be specific to the board, in days of old you would get a schematic and list of beep codes at the back of the manual to point you in the right direction - back then there were IRQ and DMA jumpers to set too...
This was a fun and interesting fix, wish you had a ton more similar to this one
I feel your process is fine. I would do it about the same more or less.
41:00 Many new motherboards have a USB flash port so you can flash the BIOS without entering BIOS (you don't even need a CPU). So adding sockets will not help the regular user because he will not have any hardware to use to flash it.
Hi, I have encountered, even if rarely, situations like yours, and the malfunction is difficult to identify. I always replaced the CMOS battery every time for safety, even if the motherboard was of recent construction. congratulations for the video.
Ciao, mi sono capitate, anche se raramente, situazioni come la tua, e il malfunzionamento e di difficile individuazione. Tutte le volte ho sempre sostituito la Batteria CMOS per sicurezza, anche se la piastra madre era di recente costruzione. complimenti per il video.
man, just discover your channel and love it!
troubleshooting step by step the way you do, explain so good different possibilities and specific things about electronics, chips, etc.
Thanks
I really enjoyed this one, Graham. It might have been frustrating, but the challenge made for interesting viewing. Thanks mate.
It might need, reapplying some Arctic Heat Sink Compond, and some dust cleaning. My computer nothing, disassembled some parts, did the vacuum cleaner mode, manually cleaned everything, fan and etc. And it started right up and more quietly.
This is the stuff I like - well I like all your stuff - but especially this type of troubleshooting videos - keep it up!
Another great vid, Graham. Hope to see you & Caradog live next weekend!
I’ve built PCs since the late 1990s and I nearly always learn a tip or two from your excellent videos.
Tip: When removing CMOS batt short holder terminals to discharge cap(s).
And push the powerbutton when the jumper is on the reset position.
Very interesting video, love your repair videos, keep em coming!
Dust plus high humidity can cause issues I have found. Semi shorts can corrupt the cmos.
I had one computer come in for repair once that had 5 years of dust mixed with cigarette smoke. Everything was sticky, yellow/orange/brown and absolutly disgusting. If i recall I just washed the board down with starting fluid. I was able to get it going again but it was worn out and very outdated.
Always fun to see someone doing my old job! But you are much better then I was! 😁😁 So, I became a musiscian....
Great detail in troubleshooting! Great Video!! Thank you
at first i thought it was the molex on board missing power..
i learned something today.. backup B-A feature.
win-raid has a good Intel ME section in forums..
i would update backup bios to 1.xx newer at least.
some manufacturers usually give at least an SPi header if not socketed.
After ram mobo was always main suspect. Love the way you talk through what your thinking tho...
5 secs in and I'm screaming CMOS BATTERY
As allwys sir,a most exellent diagnosis
Nice fix Graham... would've fooled me that one, it's good to learn
Excellent troubleshooting lesson ! Thank you ! :)
The ME is for remotely managing the PC via intels vpro software, not really used as much nowadays with the move to thin clients. Its a bit like the lights out management via dell idrac system for example.
one thing i learned working with a H97 system that didn't post was to dust it out, i did that and it posted and worked no issue.
No post are the best vids.....
Corsair powersupply never die..
Except for the yellow label VS series.
BIOS Selection Jumper
(BIOS_SEL1)
(see p.6, No. 24)
his motherboard has two BIOS onboard, a main BIOS (BIOS_A) and a backup
BIOS (BIOS_B), which enhances protection for the safety and stability of your
system. Normally, the system works on the main BIOS. However, if the main BIOS
is corrupted or damaged, please use a jumper cap to short pin2 and pin3, then
the backup BIOS will take over on the next system boot. Ater that, use “Secure
Backup UEFI“ in BIOS setup utility to copy the BIOS ile to the main BIOS to
ensure normal system operation. For the sake of system safety, users cannot
update the backup BIOS manually. Users may refer to the BIOS LED (BIOS_A_
LED or BIOS_B_LED) to identify which BIOS is activated currently.
Great video again. I really enjoy watching the videos you make about fixing and building pc's. I also learn from your videos so I can improve my own pc building and fixing skills. Thank you sir
Cheers Graham ... Enjoyed it ... Rabbit Holes are always the best Vids ... Have a nice Weekend Away ... Noel
Love your new place!! Hello from Fort Worth, Texas USA
im really starting to enjoy , watching .. a real stumpper .. l.o.l .. i hav a similar problem w/no post .. i too hav probably watched numerous vids on particular problem .. most as u saw , almost all say something diffrent .. but i hav seen a couple intriguing .. well carry on .. i may put mine aside befor i do something I'll regret later .. l.o.l ..
It's fun when it finally works...Success
Jeez you look like my grandson and this was a good video to watch and I would update my Ivy Bridge build but the budget cannot stand up to it.😉
Nice one Graham ! and I love the shirt!
Your methods are fine, basically what I'd have done, check all cables and reset bios then it's the elimination game, I did with my MB left the backup Bios as is that way I know it works
Pulling the BIOS chip out with the battery installed was a bit sketchy. No harm so no foul though.
41:35 is that one of the programmers with the design flaw putting 5V on the data lines instead of 3.3V ?? some bios chips might not like it
your shows are awesome and I learn a bunch thank you
Intel ME is the management engine that runs with "Greater than God" access and supervises the memory access by the CPU. If the ME firmware gets altered by malware, it is effectively a Rootkit that cannot be removed.
ME is the management platform done by Intel, which has some features which are useful for corporate desktops or servers (like iLO, anti-theft, etc.) but which are pretty much useless for consumer desktops. People are squicky about it because it can (in theory) use the Ethernet interface to "phone home" even when the system is off, because the ME chip is powered off the +5sb.
Yep, truly a non-concern for the regular Joe IRL. 👍
That PC used to be my dream rig. Even down to the case.
id start by disconnecting everything off the board and see what happens. next id try removing the bios battery & shorting the pins to force a reset if it has one.
Exactly why I got the habit of measuring the CMOS battery 1st and foremost. 😁
i really enjoy these videos ♥ as always fantastic job
Finally a "proper" PC for a change :) Good stuff.
Most of the common AMI/Award/Phoenix bios beep codes usually relate to legacy boards. With UEFI the manufacturers seem to make up their own beep meanings and usually differ from each other. Asrock's manual for that board contains no information on beep codes, so bit out of luck. I did notice that it had PCI slots, so maybe a diagnostic post card would have been more of a help. My cheap post card has helped in many situations, unfortunately none of my current PC's have PCI slots, all PCIe.
Noise suppression settings aren't allowing us to hear all of the beep codes...
I like this channel but I don't get all this noise cancellation on RUclips videos, just record the sound as it is...
I remember a time when mobos came with a hardcopy of a manual that had appendices including one with all the beep codes and what they meant. It can be the CPU. A few years ago my wife turned on the shower, there was a loud crack and the magic smoke was released. When I opened up my PC there was a small crater in the CPU, several tracks were burned off the mobo and the 12v rails were missing from the PSU.
@Adamant IT, The short explanation is:
Intel ME means Intel Management Engine. It is intended as low level remote management utility for enterprises and businesses. It does not need an OS running, to manage general access to a computer, on UEFI/Bios level for managing time, date, power profile, noise profile.... ETC.... by Enterprise IT teams to enterprise employee computers in their endless to provide a reasonable balance between performance and power savings on one side and reasonable balance between security and usability on the other side. It is Greatly misunderstood by people as a way to control your computer and spy on you. In order to work, this management utility needs Layer 2 access between the managed computer and the managing computers and works only on both computers are within the same vlan.
new subscriber - i like your videos and articulation when explaining.
Great video. These give me the confidence to carry out repairs on my own PC's and laptops. Thanks
23:25 What's with all the old PCI slots? Is this Ivy Bridge?
I've had luck popping a new battery in, too.
I'm pretty sure the bios chips are just regular serial flash chips, they don't store the static ram CMOS data. That would be on some other chip.
Yea this is correct, I've never actually spotted which chip is holding parameters, but as it's all part of "the bios chip circuit" I generally treat it as a single thing. At some point I want to make a video that talks about this in greater detail though 👌
Enjoyed this one mate. Cheers.
I love wonderful microsoft updates bricking my bios. Such fun.😁
This is why we charge the premiums we do as repair technicians. Sometimes even with a well thought out diagnostic process, one tiny thing will have you circling around for far too long lol.
Please keep in mind Adam, that resetting a BIOS, or any other type of initial memory in any device, can force this device to enter a loop mode. In this mode, might act abnormally. So, this might be the reason, why your last attempt before the post was still no post and, that's why, I do wait longer with all electronic devices after this reset.
I forget to mention it in the videos, however I do usually wait quite a while on boot attempts, but cut the video. Otherwise there'd be like, 15mins more of just dead space.
Memory training has a distinctive pattern as well, you can tell when the board is training vs when it's not going to POST.
what i always start with is switching the main storage device. The only thing i use linux for is for a universal boot device, just to confirm none of the other components are the fault.
Cleaning the Windows virus out has fixed a lot of PCs for me. The only thing I use Windows for is the butt of jokes!
@@1pcfred Both have their uses. When I set up a minecraft server for friends I use linux just because its lightweight and wont have anything running in the background but it doesn't suit me for a daily driver, I tried :p
It's all down to what you do the most, whichever works for your use case. you aren't gonna go anywhere making jokes about an operating system lol. It's just software at the end of the day, it has no feelings to hurt.
@@noodle_Cx I am not sure what you mean when you say, "wont have anything running in the background" as Linux typically has a lot running as background processes. I started less than 30% of the processes running on my PC right now. The rest of it all is OS overhead. Most of it I've no idea even what it is. But apparently it is critical that it be running. Because honestly things have been working rather well lately. So I'm not one to upset the apple cart. If my OS thinks I need gvfs-udisks2-volume-monitor then who am I to argue? Even if I don't have the first clue what that does. Apparently it is a memory leak watchdog. Knowing how poorly the Gnome team codes I probably do need it. Not that I use Gnome but I use some of their applications. They're clearly cognizant of their own shortcomings too. Or they would not have blessed us with this program.
Popping that Saphire card on that Mini board was like breeding a Great Dane and a Terrier.
Two beeps means there has been a parity error in base memory. This is an issue with the first 64KB block of memory in your RAM. The solution is usually to replace the memory
Intel ME is... rubbish 💩 it’s supposed to be an “out of band” platform, just like iLO or DRAC on servers, but this only applies to machines with vPro CPUs and AMT technology, workstations and professional laptops.
It works as the TPM module for some laptops too, as part of intel PTT.
The problem is that ME is part of every single Intel machine since 2008, no matter of what modules (AMT, PTT, secure boot) are present.
ME is active as long as the power cable is inserted, has access to memory (the cpu doesn’t even notice) and it has full access to the network stack.
So true, and if ME gets corrupted then your ethernet connection might be screwed. Or computer might behave weird. There are tools to dump old ME and fix it and load back, but it is tedious process.
Didn't the login details leak opening it up to hackers?
@@DJ-Daz It is being continuously patched. More and more exploits are found, it is just best target for exploits. Your firewall, os or antivirus won’t be able to see anything.
Well done! Interesting problem.
damn ,that R290 can support/hold that tiny msi board by it self. Like a real motherboard ..
A dying cmos battery will screw with posting even right after a cmos reset on most systems. That's a quick $2 change and test.
I like to reflash BIOS and be it just with the same version to prevent electrical degredation of the BIOS just in case especially when the BIOS never has been updated or the update is a few years back... Might be just a tick but I never had problems going this route...
the automatique overwritting is very cool yes this bios look greats. i am new i am learning loot stuff in your video . very thx you are awsome
And with the programmer you can nicly fry the chip. It's driving at 5V io and 3.3V vcc. Some bios may survive some not and witg 1.8V bios it's very likely dead averwards.