To anyone who doesn’t know, all cuts in this video were made with the G460 saw made by Farmertech, in China. The bar and chain are Stihl because these saws are sold as just the powerhead.
Yes, just use quality sparks plug like NGK or Bosch and keep the chain sharp and lubed, at the end of the day its just a 2 stroke engine its not rocket science. If youre doing this everyday for 8h straight a stihl/husqvarna makes sense, otherwise its a waste of money.
Sorry, I don't agree with your " waist of money" statement. I purchased a 390 Stihl with two bar sizes and about 4 or 5 chains. This purchase was made almost 20 years ago.( it all cost less than $1000 USD) I may use the saw once or twice a year. It has never let me down and has never "not started". It may or may not be more chain saw than I will ever need. But if I ever need a chain saw, I have one. And it'll last forever. So, not a waist of money.
@victorrodriguez2806 1k dollars 20 years ago is a fuck ton of a lot more expensive than $199 right now and metal rusts and other materials get brittle and weaken with age. Even if you don't use it you still gotta maintain it periodically in storage. And if you ever get rained on or flooded in any way you might lose your tool anyways. Lots of time for something to happen or get stolen
@Ben-ki3cv Oh, my!! What a negative outlook. Trust in an old man's words . You get, what you put in. Any job you do, you do right. Take care of your equipment and it'll take care of you. Plan ahead ,plan ahead, plan ahead. Smile, life is great! Every man lives a hard life. We all experience hardship in different ways. Mine is no harder than yours, nor is yours harder than your neighbors. Be aware of what could go wrong, and be prepared for the worst. But leave the gate like a rocket with intention of conquering the day.
Most "good" saws have alot of plastic parts. But I'd say if you take care of it it'll work fine for a few years. It actually looks pretty solidly made. Definitely probably heavy for it's power.
If Chinese Duracell car batteries are any indication, it'll get 6 months til August, THEN die irreparably. (Wouldn't take ANY charge) Driving 43 years, 6 cars, 3 bikes. Never even HEARD of that.
Not entirely true. All of Stihl's consumer grade saws are made at Virginia Beach. But all of their pro saws are still made in Germany and shipped over. Or at least that was the case a year ago when I ran a Stihl sales and repair shop.
Tree had an uneven canopy so he used a bore cut to avoid a barber chair… Did it exactly right.. Just another inside Cat telling us outside cats how the world is…
Nah bro that tree’s lean wasn’t that bad lol you did make it look super harder that what you really could’ve done! But what do I know I’ve only been falling trees professionally for 27 years
I used to own a tree cutting company, he did it right. Any bubba with a six pack can get a tree to the ground, but this is how you do it safely and accurately. I can usually tell pretty quick if someone knows how to handle a saw and knows what they are doing by giving a simple test like this.
The reason I trimmed the one side of the bell was so I could plunge all the way through with a 25” bar. Plunging was not totally necessary but I like being able to back cut, then escape, instead of having my bar buried against the hinge as it starts to fall. The reason for the fancy humbolt hinge was so I could get as long of poles as possible for milling lumber. Got 4 poles 8’ long. All slabs are for sale @ approx $5/bf👍
@@coletaylor123 make your cut and start hammering wedges until it goes. Easier and safer to get away without a saw running in your hand. Plunge cuts are only needed for leaning trees where chasing the cut is a bad idea.
@@jrod9733 He did IT a european way thats what WE forresters do Here in Germany to Most trees Cut IT Up let a litzlebit of woud in the Back (safty-band) and Set wedges ...only then Cut the tree ... WE are Not allowed to Just Cut IT until IT Falles beacuse thats to unpredicteble WE have to give an Instant command to the tree falling ...to ensure 100% controll at all Times ...He did a textbook european safty Cut (Sicherheits fälltechnik / Halteband fälltechnik) greetings from a German Forrester and arborist
@@coletaylor123I don’t know jack about dropping trees, but it seems like a lot of the commenters are trying to give you advice on how to get the job done more safely. but they keep phrasing it in ways that are demeaning.
@@Grantelbart1996 German superiority syndrome,Deutschland uber alles . I guess you people are still as arrogant as you were when I was stationed in Heidelberg because your superior country lost another war and was occupied by your enemies.
I have a stihl ms 391 thats about 7 or so yrs old thats been used 8 hrs a day on n off of course 3 days a week and besides normal maintenance runs strong. I highly doubt that would last any where near that long. But i guess for a back up saw or a homeowner that is a weekend warrior it would prob work fine. But even my back up saws are older stihl and huskies.
@@jimmylarge1148good luck with warranty or actually having the many years worth of support for when you end up needing those parts, one is better off with a used reputable brand than the real cheap new stuff it's a situation of why spend $50 to fix a $200 product that could need another $50 soon again, factor productivity if your a professional and it's a net loss, it doesn't matter if you could buy 3 for the price of one if you can't rely on it that's the difference and it's worth it. Support is worth something, I can reliably get parts for an established brand with a short turn around you can't do that with most china brands and that leads to more garbage in landfills it's costing everyone in ways not yet seen.
Hey, we only criticize welds. If the weld is bad, then we tear it apart. Sometimes literally. If the weld is good. Then we will say that the weld is good.
@@grandmastersreaction1267 the question is where the still was designed and who enforces build standards. One Stihl has lasted four Chinese saws so far and counting.
i use these saws with a 54 inch bar on a alaskan chainsaw mill. they're awesome saws. and depending which ones you get , you can replace with sthil or husquvarne parts .
quality stuff can be made in china, in fact most quality things are, and a big reason ppl make things not in china is the sole reason “made in china”…so long it doesnt say that, ppl can pass off the extra cost to the consumer marketing made in wherever. china knows their place in the international market, and ppl rather buy cheap than expensive and well made, and they exploit that a lot
Yes but you missed the point because the tree is made in America with American parts. He never compares two saws to each other in the vid, he only uses one Chinese saw against an American tree. He only mentions the Stihl as a backup in case the Chinese saw fails
Chinese stuff have grade of quality from good to average to bad. Real stihl that made in china is a good saw. Fake stihl is bad chinese saw. Just like other random chinese brand saw (except New West & Holzforma, they're not a bad saw)
@@kucingganteng3148 I did not say that Chinese factories make only shit. I said that it is made in real in China, not Germany. From the Germany is only sticker.
Yeah, odd the Chinese chicken doesn't come with a bar and chain. Plus sure it will work fine for a small amount of time, but I would not go out on the job without the Stihl. You know I did use Husqvarna for a climbing saw though. I just liked it, that is the only reason 😅
Some of you say he could have cut it down much simpler and he was being fancy and sophisticated. But what matters is he cut it down safely and dropped it where it needed to be with the knowledge and ability he had under his belt. He didn’t try to do what you think was right and endanger everyone or screw up. So if you know better- hooray for you, but he is a hero for not trying to be you
Not bad, I woulda cleaned up that face more especially on dead standing beach I’ve had some nasty surprises, but overall nice job and those Chinese clone saws aren’t that bad, I’d recommend getting extra recoil parts as those go bad really fast and paying extra attention to the saw for any air leaks, I’ve seen a bunch of them develop air leaks really fast but they aren’t horrible saws
@@coletaylor123 yeah I’ve done a TON of work on those clone saws, mainly actually porting them so I’ve seen hundreds of them and found their issues and weaknesses
@@jomamma1750 I'd still say they are German…even if build in the US, it’s a German brand. Same with Teslas that are made in Germany, they are not German cars ;)
@p__jay The steel they use in that plant comes from Lukens in Coatesville P.A., the plastic comes out of a refinery in Jersey, etc. These things actually matter in terms of quality of product. When you're doing a quality comparison based on country of origin, then you bring this up. If those saws came over here on a cargo ship, that would be different, but they don't.
Have a nearly 50 yr old Stihl 049 Farm boss that was rebuilt by my brother who thought it needed rebuilt. And it had cut MILES of wood. When torn down it looked new inside. It will out cut pretty much anything going but hasn't got new fangled tech. His neighbor wanted to but 4 ft bar on it to get his new saw in stuck due to fragged clutch and chain. 76 model Stihl ate wood like a champ.
@brandoncrimmins6296 True, but I am not a pro, and the saw has been used plenty on my small farm, so it doesn't owe me anything at this point. I did it 3 years ago and it's still cutting good. If it breaks tomorrow, then I'll buy a new one.
These cuts are when you work per hour 😂 the diameter of this tree is pretty small , a simple loose and trace cut would have been much faster , plenty of landing room aswell
He’s doing it exactly right, idk what yall are complaining about.. he even cut off the root flare at the bottom to give the chainsaw more room.. definitely NOT an amateur tree guy.
My 036 is probably 35 years old and has cut a ridiculous amount of wood. I’ve replaced the bar several times, the sprocket once and the oiler once. Actually the entire carb once too which I found on the internet new in the box from a place called Red Barn that specializes in older parts
For all you chainsaw snobs, it's the freaking chain that cuts the tree. I'ma Stihl owner but I'm not pompous enough to think it's the only chain saw that cuts. I'm going to buy one just because.
@@BFuseyit really comes down to if it's on par power wise, if it is great, it'll cut roughly just as Good. the biggest question is how many trees until the motor blows 🤣
@@TylerAllen-zx2ef I have this Chinese saw. It's almost 8 years old now. I don't winterize it or anything I use it often enough. It's gonna need a new clutch in a couple years but it's only $10. The carbs are $8 if I ever need one. I just let it warm up before I use it. Works great with all small engines actually. This saw has been well worth the money.
The LTT scribe pen was just announced and it is already sold out? So was that just the pens made and they’re bringing more..? I hope, that was really fast, barely a weekend. Didn’t they say scrapyard wars was never coming back? I guess too many people kept asking for it so they just had to.
Don't WANT too argue to be right, but hows that GMC, Ford or Dodge US engineered junk holding up with all that recycled usa scrap iron from chinni intigrated into it? They don't build anything in this country too last anymore. Including a thrown together outhouse.
I now live in the Philippines and own two of these Chinese chain saws and they cut just as good as the ones I owned in the US. The difference is how they idle, start, run and length of life. I bought Echo saws when I was in the US and were the best saws I ever used. We own 140 acres of woods and every house we owned had a fireplace so we cut loads of wood for us and friends each year. I can buy a stihl here but they are expensive and my Chinese saws have been with me for 5 years and just keep fixing them. God Bless
That's what is looks like to me, too. Here is a question: If the Chinese saw is so good, why did the company go to so much trouble to make it look like a Stihl?
I'm not sure if they're still doing it, but there used to be Chinese companies that made knockoffs from used Honda manufacturing equipment. They were basically using casts that were worn out of spec, but still functional. The biggest problem was the alloys that they used were inferior so they wore out faster. Think about harbor freight predator engines
But they have an American manufacturing plant with 2700 Americans employed. So while yes the company is German, the saw is American made (or at least American assembled)
By the way. Good demonstration of side wedging and controlled felling. Probably overkill on this tree, but it's a valid technique for the ultimate in a controlled fall.
I’ve got a 372xp knockoff and it’s kinda ok. It runs consistently but I had to put an OEM carb on it. Chain tensioner sucks and it’s getting the OEM treatment next.
I put together a 288 xp kit saw used a 42” bar they sell . I’ve used a home made Alaska mill on it and ran it hard and put it up wet. It’s still going strong. Ya it’ll last over 6months way better than 264$ I even ported it. It’s a wicked strong saw. I piston ported it not cylinder cuz I didn’t want the nikisil to chip. New cylinders are only 40-120$ depending on quality but even the cheapest are fine just cruder ports. Glad I bought it.
That was Stihl(and Husky) long time ago.. Nowadays, anything short of their “professional” series, is just a throwaway junk! Plastic engine blocks!? 😂 Yea!
Yeah no offense but that's a motor made in China and then you put good parts on it. the chain is the only reason why that thing was working so well I bet if you put cheap Chinese one on there it wouldnt work so well...
Been using my ms260 clone most days at work for 6 months now and it's so good I bought their husky 372copy for bigger stuff and that's a beast as well. Few small problems but you can replace them with OEM parts. No reason to spend 1000s on saws any more yay. The Chinese are a great bunch of lads.
@@NtVince99 Hagen Daz ice cream is American. No matter what the name is. Stihl was started in America. VW was started in Germany. That is what makes it a German car.
Both what? He only uses the Chinese saw, he never uses the Stihl, also Stihl is made in the US with parts from the US. The comparison is the Chinese saw vs the American tree, not the Chinese saw vs an American saw, he doesn’t have an American saw, he has an American made saw, which he never uses in the video
it would have cut faster had you used the bottom of the bar instead of the top. it lets the saw bite better and glide through the tree instead of having to push it in when using the top of the bar. cutting the wedge with the flat cut on the stump and the sloped cut on the log makes it to where you dont fight gravity. instead of chopping the wedge out, cut it to where the cuts meet each other exactly so that it leaves a straight line across the back of the wedge which would eliminate any variation from the tree having too much trunk left on one side, causing it to veer to either side when falling. start your back cut with the right side of the bar on the flat part of your wedge (assuming you made the flat cut on the stump) and cut a few inches out of the side of the trunk closest to you. follow around the trunk and cut all the way around to the other side and cut a few inches out of that side. this eliminates any chance of the wood there holding and affecting the deflection of the fall. return to the rear of the tree and make cut into the trunk, not cutting too much on either side. if the tree has its weight distributed in the direction of the wedge already then it won't need any wedges. should it need them, put them in the rear of the trunk instead of the side. leave the saw in the cut when applying them. refrain from cutting too much into it before applying the wedges because it could bite down and sit on your saw bar.
Where do you think they make all the husqvarna parts? I got a top of the line back pack leaf blower that is only missing the Husqvarna stickers for 130 bucks. Indistinguishable otherwise
That Stihl bar and assuming Stihl chain cost more (and are probably worth more) than the Chinese power head. For the person that needs a saw for the occasional clean up project, buy whatever you want. For the professional or the guy who needs a reliable saw every time he reaches for it, buy a quality saw that is supported by a reliable dealer. I recommend either of the orange ones.
I have a Farmertec top handle saw that i've absolutely abused for over a year. It still fires up on the 2nd pull. Never had any issues with it. I sold my Stihl top handle.
Run about 3 tanks through it @32:1 then adjust the carb. They come from the factory rich. Once the rings get seated you can lean them out. Stay with 32:1 or 40:1. These saws like their oil
Shit still falls and pops off when you're cutting. Now, why there was no face shield or hearing protection I don't understand since that's the general purpose of that hardhat afaik. Maybe just to demonstrate? Not sure, but that's why they do.
Any Saw will do that especially with a pro bar and chain by Stihl! Question is will it last a week or two at a tree company that drops trees and trims them by the ton a day if not more than that. Let me use it for a month and see if it will pass the test of running for 8-12 hours a day for a month. I'm curious to see if it will last as long as the Husky and Stihl saws that I have.
I bought one of those crappy Chinese chainsaws off of Amazon in 2018 to carve up a tree we had cut down for firewood. it's been about 6 years now and it is still holding up pretty good. I've only used it about a dozen or so times since i put the initial mileage of every other day for 2 months. The air intake cover cracked and I have to tighten the bar more than normal, but otherwise it runs almost as well as most other saw ive used. Its worth it if you want something for here and there on occasion.
I have only cut down trees that were in a forest fire but I notice people who cut green trees seem to never look up is that something not taught for safety?
As a member of the German culture i would suggest to Change the title of your short to China vs Germany. Because of Stihl and the country of Origin.....😅
Been using stihl saws for years bought a new small Stihl for around my shack blew it up on a tiny tree had the right oil/gas mixture I will not buy another
Properly set up with a good bar and a shark chain. Any running Saw can do that once or twice. But the question is how many times can it do it how long will it last.
The point is made that the 'imported' tools will get the job done..but likely not last as long. As a remodeler..I have tools that I have to depend on for frequent use and others I might only use once or twice in a year's time. That's where you make the smart choice to buy the cheaper tool. Would love to buy American every time but..oh well.
To anyone who doesn’t know, all cuts in this video were made with the G460 saw made by Farmertech, in China. The bar and chain are Stihl because these saws are sold as just the powerhead.
From the way you handle that saw and those cuts you need to never pick up another saw again in your life
These completely built powerheads
@@billysmith2327uh oh, the peanut gallery experts have arrived in force
I was wondering about the Stihl bar. Thanks.
I think the question is will it cut down 1000 trees
Anything with a new chain can do that, the question is if it'll last 6 months of use😂
Yes, just use quality sparks plug like NGK or Bosch and keep the chain sharp and lubed, at the end of the day its just a 2 stroke engine its not rocket science. If youre doing this everyday for 8h straight a stihl/husqvarna makes sense, otherwise its a waste of money.
Sorry, I don't agree with your " waist of money" statement.
I purchased a 390 Stihl with two bar sizes and about 4 or 5 chains. This purchase was made almost 20 years ago.( it all cost less than $1000 USD)
I may use the saw once or twice a year.
It has never let me down and has never "not started". It may or may not be more chain saw than I will ever need. But if I ever need a chain saw, I have one. And it'll last forever.
So, not a waist of money.
@@victorrodriguez2806I think you need to reread what he wrote, because you're misinterpreting what he's saying.
@victorrodriguez2806 1k dollars 20 years ago is a fuck ton of a lot more expensive than $199 right now and metal rusts and other materials get brittle and weaken with age. Even if you don't use it you still gotta maintain it periodically in storage. And if you ever get rained on or flooded in any way you might lose your tool anyways. Lots of time for something to happen or get stolen
@Ben-ki3cv
Oh, my!! What a negative outlook. Trust in an old man's words . You get, what you put in. Any job you do, you do right.
Take care of your equipment and it'll take care of you.
Plan ahead ,plan ahead, plan ahead.
Smile, life is great!
Every man lives a hard life. We all experience hardship in different ways.
Mine is no harder than yours, nor is yours harder than your neighbors.
Be aware of what could go wrong, and be prepared for the worst. But leave the gate like a rocket with intention of conquering the day.
Bro made 37 cuts to make sure it landed in an empty field.
😂😂
Where else to practice?
That’s fckn funny
Precision so he doesnt have to move it later
@@xmuggsyx3 cuts Max in the same Spot. Ole School Verses trying to look good.
The longest 60 seconds I've ever seen 😅
That’s what she said
@@wmpx34that’s also what Frieza said…😏
It's a RUclips short so yeah, 60 seconds
Bro spent all day carving that statue of a downed tree.
@@JustRememberWhoYoureWorkingForthe video is sped up at times though
The real question is.. How long will it last!?
Maybe 80 work hours I seriously don’t see it holding up I’ve seen a handful dudes get it cause cheap w cc but shit don’t work in 2 weeks plastic crap
Most "good" saws have alot of plastic parts. But I'd say if you take care of it it'll work fine for a few years. It actually looks pretty solidly made. Definitely probably heavy for it's power.
He used the expensive one in the whole video so it obviously didn't work 🎉😂
If Chinese Duracell car batteries are any indication, it'll get 6 months til August, THEN die irreparably. (Wouldn't take ANY charge)
Driving 43 years, 6 cars, 3 bikes. Never even HEARD of that.
60 seconds bruv 😆
China vs USA? Stihl is German btw.
I always thought it was Austrian..shame on me
They're really made in Germany?. Because I bought a Husky. Only to find out it was made in the USA...
Yea. Stihl saws sold in the US are made in the US. Lol. Virginia Beach.
Not entirely true. All of Stihl's consumer grade saws are made at Virginia Beach. But all of their pro saws are still made in Germany and shipped over. Or at least that was the case a year ago when I ran a Stihl sales and repair shop.
Agreed but built in America. You are right though American owned would be my choice.
50yrs cutting trees and in the last 5yrs I’ve absolutely seen some unusual ways to cut a tree down!
How should he have cut it down?
Right?! This one some New kungfu cutting technique
I was thinking the same thing. Only 10-12 years cutting trees but that was a lot of effort and show for a stick.
@@mattduin7144 - How'bout let's start with WAY MORE EASILY!!!!(?)
Zero year of experience but I think it was well done and in a safe manner.
You made that harder than it needed to be honestly.
But you got the tree on the ground and didn’t get hurt that’s the most important thing
Tree had an uneven canopy so he used a bore cut to avoid a barber chair…
Did it exactly right..
Just another inside Cat telling us outside cats how the world is…
Nah bro that tree’s lean wasn’t that bad lol you did make it look super harder that what you really could’ve done! But what do I know I’ve only been falling trees professionally for 27 years
Everyone been falling trees for 20 plus years. My dad was paul bunyan
I used to own a tree cutting company, he did it right. Any bubba with a six pack can get a tree to the ground, but this is how you do it safely and accurately. I can usually tell pretty quick if someone knows how to handle a saw and knows what they are doing by giving a simple test like this.
Way longer than it needed to be
I thought he was going to carve a bear at the rate he was going 😅
That's fucking hilarious.😊
LMAO
😅😅😅😅😅
90% of that cut was unnecessary
The reason I trimmed the one side of the bell was so I could plunge all the way through with a 25” bar. Plunging was not totally necessary but I like being able to back cut, then escape, instead of having my bar buried against the hinge as it starts to fall. The reason for the fancy humbolt hinge was so I could get as long of poles as possible for milling lumber. Got 4 poles 8’ long. All slabs are for sale @ approx $5/bf👍
@@coletaylor123 make your cut and start hammering wedges until it goes. Easier and safer to get away without a saw running in your hand. Plunge cuts are only needed for leaning trees where chasing the cut is a bad idea.
@@jrod9733 He did IT a european way thats what WE forresters do Here in Germany to Most trees Cut IT Up let a litzlebit of woud in the Back (safty-band) and Set wedges ...only then Cut the tree ... WE are Not allowed to Just Cut IT until IT Falles beacuse thats to unpredicteble
WE have to give an Instant command to the tree falling ...to ensure 100% controll at all Times ...He did a textbook european safty Cut (Sicherheits fälltechnik / Halteband fälltechnik) greetings from a German Forrester and arborist
@@coletaylor123I don’t know jack about dropping trees, but it seems like a lot of the commenters are trying to give you advice on how to get the job done more safely. but they keep phrasing it in ways that are demeaning.
100% correct 😂
When you get paid by the hour😂😂
Union
Lmaooo
For shure man hahahahahah
Paid by the job in tree service
That Stihl bar really threw everyone off and also amounted to tons of comments.
Thats the common core tree cutting method.
The fuck you on about 3 cuts dude did way more than was necessary
@@Profeex22 🤦🏻♂️ hey dummy.. Common core math is dumb and has far more steps than necessary.. that’s the point of his comment😂
@@joshmaddux thanks for answering my question
Stihl ist die beste kettensäge 🎉 Grüße aus Deutschland 🇩🇪
Truly _German engineering is the best in the world_
Whatever you have to tell yourself. Husqvarna is a much better saw.
@@dredbud9272 no Chance
@@Grantelbart1996 German superiority syndrome,Deutschland uber alles . I guess you people are still as arrogant as you were when I was stationed in Heidelberg because your superior country lost another war and was occupied by your enemies.
I really enjoyed the part when you showed how long it took!
With all the work done here, it might have taken as much as a half hour.
FYI. I looked it up. That saw, w/o bar and chain, is listed between 280-295$ on eBay.
They're way cheaper on ali
I have the holzforma this size, thing was $370 two years ago
I have a stihl ms 391 thats about 7 or so yrs old thats been used 8 hrs a day on n off of course 3 days a week and besides normal maintenance runs strong. I highly doubt that would last any where near that long. But i guess for a back up saw or a homeowner that is a weekend warrior it would prob work fine. But even my back up saws are older stihl and huskies.
Can replace all broken parts with “real” parts. U can’t lose. U can break a lot of stuff before u hit that stihl price tag.
@@jimmylarge1148good luck with warranty or actually having the many years worth of support for when you end up needing those parts, one is better off with a used reputable brand than the real cheap new stuff it's a situation of why spend $50 to fix a $200 product that could need another $50 soon again, factor productivity if your a professional and it's a net loss, it doesn't matter if you could buy 3 for the price of one if you can't rely on it that's the difference and it's worth it. Support is worth something, I can reliably get parts for an established brand with a short turn around you can't do that with most china brands and that leads to more garbage in landfills it's costing everyone in ways not yet seen.
'highly doubt' is more like 'absolutely will not'
I thought that welders were the most insulting pricks on RUclips, criticizing every aspect of a video. But now I have met “chainsaw owners”…
Hey, we only criticize welds. If the weld is bad, then we tear it apart. Sometimes literally. If the weld is good. Then we will say that the weld is good.
😂😂🤣😅
😂
No worries. Chainsaw owners are just that. Not experts by any means.
Potential owners included
One tree? Sure. Five trees? Maybe. Will it keep on running as long as the Stihl? No way.
Where do you think the Stihl is made?
I think it can cut a lot of trees. But it won’t last a year
@@grandmastersreaction1267 the question is where the still was designed and who enforces build standards. One Stihl has lasted four Chinese saws so far and counting.
The real question is can you find parts for it when it fails?
Its only american wood, a cheap saw would cut that stuff for years.
The pro line of Sthil and Husqvarna chainsaws are made in germany and sweden, the one built in u.s are consummer level chainsaw
Nope, Huskies are all junk now!! Cheers from Canada 🇨🇦
i use these saws with a 54 inch bar on a alaskan chainsaw mill. they're awesome saws. and depending which ones you get , you can replace with sthil or husquvarne parts .
Stihl is german but made in CHINA! Check the parts inside the saw
quality stuff can be made in china, in fact most quality things are, and a big reason ppl make things not in china is the sole reason “made in china”…so long it doesnt say that, ppl can pass off the extra cost to the consumer marketing made in wherever. china knows their place in the international market, and ppl rather buy cheap than expensive and well made, and they exploit that a lot
@@leafster1337💯% TRUTH
Yes but you missed the point because the tree is made in America with American parts. He never compares two saws to each other in the vid, he only uses one Chinese saw against an American tree. He only mentions the Stihl as a backup in case the Chinese saw fails
Chinese stuff have grade of quality from good to average to bad.
Real stihl that made in china is a good saw.
Fake stihl is bad chinese saw. Just like other random chinese brand saw (except New West & Holzforma, they're not a bad saw)
@@kucingganteng3148 I did not say that Chinese factories make only shit. I said that it is made in real in China, not Germany. From the Germany is only sticker.
He used the chinese chainsaw but replaced the bar and chain with stihl !
you only get power head for the price
Look at the label.on the saw it US stihl saw! He's just making 10 $ with his bs!
Yeah, odd the Chinese chicken doesn't come with a bar and chain. Plus sure it will work fine for a small amount of time, but I would not go out on the job without the Stihl. You know I did use Husqvarna for a climbing saw though. I just liked it, that is the only reason 😅
@@botfoblhrpthank you! Glad someone knows this!!!
@@thomasmatthews8055husqvarna is the best . That’s all I use
Some of you say he could have cut it down much simpler and he was being fancy and sophisticated. But what matters is he cut it down safely and dropped it where it needed to be with the knowledge and ability he had under his belt. He didn’t try to do what you think was right and endanger everyone or screw up. So if you know better- hooray for you, but he is a hero for not trying to be you
Not bad, I woulda cleaned up that face more especially on dead standing beach I’ve had some nasty surprises, but overall nice job and those Chinese clone saws aren’t that bad, I’d recommend getting extra recoil parts as those go bad really fast and paying extra attention to the saw for any air leaks, I’ve seen a bunch of them develop air leaks really fast but they aren’t horrible saws
Good to know. Thanks for sharing Some Guys Saw Shop👍
@@coletaylor123 yeah I’ve done a TON of work on those clone saws, mainly actually porting them so I’ve seen hundreds of them and found their issues and weaknesses
Do you have any content with these Chinese saws and the work you put into them?
@@desertsavageryI will soon! Thanks for asking, good feedback
@@desertsavagery yeah, I’ve got a few videos, I ported my buddies 372 Holtzforma on the channel
Different price, different quality. That's the fact everyone should know.
you can’t be seriously claiming Stihl being from the US 😂🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
The plant is here in the USA and employs 2,700 Americans.
@@jomamma1750 that’s new to me. Thought they are from Germany…
@@p__jay Thought wrong
@@jomamma1750 I'd still say they are German…even if build in the US, it’s a German brand. Same with Teslas that are made in Germany, they are not German cars ;)
@p__jay The steel they use in that plant comes from Lukens in Coatesville P.A., the plastic comes out of a refinery in Jersey, etc. These things actually matter in terms of quality of product. When you're doing a quality comparison based on country of origin, then you bring this up. If those saws came over here on a cargo ship, that would be different, but they don't.
Great video, well done!
Cut down the first one, that’s good.
Show me the 2nd and 3rd?
We have China as a big manufacturing competitor now. We must maintain high quality craftsmanship at all times.
I have a 20 year old Stihl Farmboss, and the motor finally wore out, I replaced it with a Taiwan made clone motor. Cuts the same as it always did.
Big difference in Chinese and Taiwanese products. Huge difference!
Have a nearly 50 yr old Stihl 049 Farm boss that was rebuilt by my brother who thought it needed rebuilt. And it had cut MILES of wood.
When torn down it looked new inside. It will out cut pretty much anything going but hasn't got new fangled tech. His neighbor wanted to but 4 ft bar on it to get his new saw in stuck due to fragged clutch and chain. 76 model Stihl ate wood like a champ.
No thanks I will stick to German made not terrorist made!
Sure, but for how long? Paying for quality means you’re buying longevity.
@brandoncrimmins6296 True, but I am not a pro, and the saw has been used plenty on my small farm, so it doesn't owe me anything at this point. I did it 3 years ago and it's still cutting good. If it breaks tomorrow, then I'll buy a new one.
These cuts are when you work per hour 😂 the diameter of this tree is pretty small , a simple loose and trace cut would have been much faster , plenty of landing room aswell
The fuck is this guy doing?
😂
not being good at cutting down trees
The lord’s work
He’s doing it exactly right, idk what yall are complaining about..
he even cut off the root flare at the bottom to give the chainsaw more room..
definitely NOT an amateur tree guy.
@WesternReaper84
Joe Pa knew nothing. Biggest joke since the ol' 199 dollar chain saw trick.
Absolutely Correct, Duration n Continued Performance Level is the test... 🤓⚒
Will you have to swim for parts? Looks like it got the job done
All parts interchangeable with Stihl 460… which is old technology, but still easy enough to replace w OEM parts, or clone parts
This is why Stihl is going to stop making parts for saws older than 20 years old.
My 036 is probably 35 years old and has cut a ridiculous amount of wood. I’ve replaced the bar several times, the sprocket once and the oiler once. Actually the entire carb once too which I found on the internet new in the box from a place called Red Barn that specializes in older parts
I have an 038 that I bought back in 1981, dozens of chains and maybe 8 bars and a few sprockets later still cuts like new.
@@smartin70then the chinese will just make the parts.
Love the video, im subscribing
For all you chainsaw snobs, it's the freaking chain that cuts the tree. I'ma Stihl owner but I'm not pompous enough to think it's the only chain saw that cuts. I'm going to buy one just because.
Yeah it’s just a motor that pushes the chain. Anything that keeps that chain spinning will cut. People are silly
What are your favourite chain saw and other tool brands.
Especially ones better than expensive Western brands
@@BFuseyit really comes down to if it's on par power wise, if it is great, it'll cut roughly just as Good. the biggest question is how many trees until the motor blows 🤣
@@seamuskilloran3629the difference is how long it lasts 😄 get you an expensive Stihl, learn to service it, you can have it for decades 🤷🏻♀️
@@TylerAllen-zx2ef
I have this Chinese saw. It's almost 8 years old now. I don't winterize it or anything I use it often enough. It's gonna need a new clutch in a couple years but it's only $10. The carbs are $8 if I ever need one. I just let it warm up before I use it. Works great with all small engines actually. This saw has been well worth the money.
The LTT scribe pen was just announced and it is already sold out? So was that just the pens made and they’re bringing more..? I hope, that was really fast, barely a weekend.
Didn’t they say scrapyard wars was never coming back? I guess too many people kept asking for it so they just had to.
Share how long you cut with it before cropping out
I tuned mine, 28inch bar..ported,runs great
I had a chicom rifle like that once. Fine tuned or replaced almost every part with the American made equivalent and it functioned alright.
Don't WANT too argue to be right, but hows that GMC, Ford or Dodge US engineered junk holding up with all that recycled usa scrap iron from chinni intigrated into it? They don't build anything in this country too last anymore. Including a thrown together outhouse.
I now live in the Philippines and own two of these Chinese chain saws and they cut just as good as the ones I owned in the US. The difference is how they idle, start, run and length of life. I bought Echo saws when I was in the US and were the best saws I ever used. We own 140 acres of woods and every house we owned had a fireplace so we cut loads of wood for us and friends each year. I can buy a stihl here but they are expensive and my Chinese saws have been with me for 5 years and just keep fixing them. God Bless
All I saw was the Stihl used.
Still bar, saw is the cheapo
That's what is looks like to me, too. Here is a question: If the Chinese saw is so good, why did the company go to so much trouble to make it look like a Stihl?
@@OogleTheGreatbecause it’s a stihl copy, it wasn’t trouble. Originally they just did replacement parts.
Lmao he used a Stihl
I'm not sure if they're still doing it, but there used to be Chinese companies that made knockoffs from used Honda manufacturing equipment. They were basically using casts that were worn out of spec, but still functional. The biggest problem was the alloys that they used were inferior so they wore out faster. Think about harbor freight predator engines
Farmertech makes a pretty good copy, their clearing saws are pretty good too.
That face and back cut😭
Stihl is german...
Few Americans even realise this.
Husqvarna (Swedish) and Stihl(german) make the best chainsaws by far
But they have an American manufacturing plant with 2700 Americans employed. So while yes the company is German, the saw is American made (or at least American assembled)
Few eurostains realize that stihl is a german company built in america
Stilh is made in China
Thank you for not wearing a Notre Dame T-shirt. We Are.
By the way. Good demonstration of side wedging and controlled felling. Probably overkill on this tree, but it's a valid technique for the ultimate in a controlled fall.
Short answer; No!
Long answer; NOOOOOOOO!
Im wondering... Did someone actually say, hey??? You look great!!! Thats a really cool mustache, guy. 😂😂🤣🤣
I thought it was dirt...weak ass stash but he is still a boy
Honestly anything with power works. I've been using a freaking walmart chainsaw for the last 5 yrs and it's still going strong.
I’ve got a 372xp knockoff and it’s kinda ok. It runs consistently but I had to put an OEM carb on it. Chain tensioner sucks and it’s getting the OEM treatment next.
1 job that saw paid for itself 3xs over.
Same here, got a 660 a decade ago and had to bust out the 3 foot bar 🤘🤘. And got to sell the black walnut log
Sounds like it need a tune. Bet it actually does pretty well when set up just like your Sthil. Not quite as well but pretty close.
That’s a 300$ saw not a 199$ saw if you have it for 199 send the link
I put together a 288 xp kit saw used a 42” bar they sell . I’ve used a home made Alaska mill on it and ran it hard and put it up wet. It’s still going strong. Ya it’ll last over 6months way better than 264$ I even ported it. It’s a wicked strong saw. I piston ported it not cylinder cuz I didn’t want the nikisil to chip. New cylinders are only 40-120$ depending on quality but even the cheapest are fine just cruder ports. Glad I bought it.
Just buy a Stihl! Then there isn't a debate. Ms271 enough for any homeowners. That 500 bucks. Last a lifetime
I just had to take my MS271 to the shop. Quit running mid-cut and would not restart. Before that it was a heck of a saw, cleared a 2 acre lot with it.
That was Stihl(and Husky) long time ago..
Nowadays, anything short of their “professional” series, is just a throwaway junk!
Plastic engine blocks!? 😂 Yea!
Nope husky ery day
271 is legit for homeowners but I'd urge you spring for the 261
Stunning notch work.
Yeah no offense but that's a motor made in China and then you put good parts on it. the chain is the only reason why that thing was working so well I bet if you put cheap Chinese one on there it wouldnt work so well...
Been using my ms260 clone most days at work for 6 months now and it's so good I bought their husky 372copy for bigger stuff and that's a beast as well. Few small problems but you can replace them with OEM parts. No reason to spend 1000s on saws any more yay. The Chinese are a great bunch of lads.
Bruh Stihl is German not American
"Bruh". Stihl is made in Virginia Beach, Virginia.
@@timgreen4137 Brand is still German isn't it? You still consider an American build VW German don't you?
@@NtVince99 Hagen Daz ice cream is American. No matter what the name is.
Stihl was started in America. VW was started in Germany. That is what makes it a German car.
@@timgreen4137The company was founded close to Stuttgart in a city where my Grandma is from.
@@timgreen4137So everything in your world comes from the USA, why am I not surprised 🧠💨🕳
That information would have helped as I was left wondering why you were using the Stihl.
Both made in china.
Both what? He only uses the Chinese saw, he never uses the Stihl, also Stihl is made in the US with parts from the US. The comparison is the Chinese saw vs the American tree, not the Chinese saw vs an American saw, he doesn’t have an American saw, he has an American made saw, which he never uses in the video
My favorite part is when they clearly answered the question.
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How many different ways can you say, "Click bait?"
I see ZERO footage of sawing with this Chinese saw and everything I did see was Stihl saw. 😮
He's using a Stihl chainsaw I don't believe that it's Chinese made or am I wrong
@@Hawksforever99all cuts were made with the Chinese Holtzforma saw
@@jameswhitworth8487all cuts were made with the Chinese Holtzforma saw
Having used a chainsaw many times, seems to me you don't know what you are doing!!
I’m no Social Studies professor, but that was the longest 60 seconds I’ve ever seen
That tree was not an extreme leaner. That bore cut wasn't necessary
That blue is lovely 👍🏼
Might be a dumb question but when cutting trees do you hold the trigger all the way down
it would have cut faster had you used the bottom of the bar instead of the top. it lets the saw bite better and glide through the tree instead of having to push it in when using the top of the bar. cutting the wedge with the flat cut on the stump and the sloped cut on the log makes it to where you dont fight gravity.
instead of chopping the wedge out, cut it to where the cuts meet each other exactly so that it leaves a straight line across the back of the wedge which would eliminate any variation from the tree having too much trunk left on one side, causing it to veer to either side when falling.
start your back cut with the right side of the bar on the flat part of your wedge (assuming you made the flat cut on the stump) and cut a few inches out of the side of the trunk closest to you. follow around the trunk and cut all the way around to the other side and cut a few inches out of that side. this eliminates any chance of the wood there holding and affecting the deflection of the fall.
return to the rear of the tree and make cut into the trunk, not cutting too much on either side. if the tree has its weight distributed in the direction of the wedge already then it won't need any wedges. should it need them, put them in the rear of the trunk instead of the side. leave the saw in the cut when applying them. refrain from cutting too much into it before applying the wedges because it could bite down and sit on your saw bar.
Where do you think they make all the husqvarna parts? I got a top of the line back pack leaf blower that is only missing the Husqvarna stickers for 130 bucks. Indistinguishable otherwise
The most over complicated tree falling ever:
You made that way too complicated but I did appreciate your siping cuts and the plunge cut to build the hinge.
That Stihl bar and assuming Stihl chain cost more (and are probably worth more) than the Chinese power head.
For the person that needs a saw for the occasional clean up project, buy whatever you want.
For the professional or the guy who needs a reliable saw every time he reaches for it, buy a quality saw that is supported by a reliable dealer.
I recommend either of the orange ones.
I have a Farmertec top handle saw that i've absolutely abused for over a year. It still fires up on the 2nd pull. Never had any issues with it. I sold my Stihl top handle.
When did the actual 60 seconds start?
I had a Chinese 660. The carbs and oilers are junk. Replace with Stihl carb and a Stihl oiler and it's fine. Ripped pretty good. Sold it for $400
Hnnng. The kerf cuts... So nice.
(Logger here)
Man watching trees getting brought down makes me feel so nervous! 😬
Run about 3 tanks through it @32:1 then adjust the carb. They come from the factory rich. Once the rings get seated you can lean them out. Stay with 32:1 or 40:1. These saws like their oil
Stihl is a German company, but since they have manufacturing in the US it's probably okay to call it China vs USA.
I never understood why tree trimmers wear hard hats ... If that tree falls on you the hard hat ain't gonna do shit to protect you
Shit still falls and pops off when you're cutting. Now, why there was no face shield or hearing protection I don't understand since that's the general purpose of that hardhat afaik. Maybe just to demonstrate? Not sure, but that's why they do.
To quote the Great Mattie O’Hooligan from Caddie Shack “Tanks for Nuttin”
Any Saw will do that especially with a pro bar and chain by Stihl! Question is will it last a week or two at a tree company that drops trees and trims them by the ton a day if not more than that. Let me use it for a month and see if it will pass the test of running for 8-12 hours a day for a month. I'm curious to see if it will last as long as the Husky and Stihl saws that I have.
It’s important to know that the people that would buy something like this is going to be a homeowner not professional use every day
Stihl bar and chain makes a huge difference. Show me the engine still running after 1 year, hell after 1 week of daily use.
I bought one of those crappy Chinese chainsaws off of Amazon in 2018 to carve up a tree we had cut down for firewood. it's been about 6 years now and it is still holding up pretty good. I've only used it about a dozen or so times since i put the initial mileage of every other day for 2 months. The air intake cover cracked and I have to tighten the bar more than normal, but otherwise it runs almost as well as most other saw ive used. Its worth it if you want something for here and there on occasion.
When did you use the cheap Chinese saw? "Stihl" sure was prominent...
...and sum'n about 60 seconds...?
I have only cut down trees that were in a forest fire but I notice people who cut green trees seem to never look up is that something not taught for safety?
My SalemMaster 20" cuts like a demon, and it was only $119 on Amazon. Working on a 7' diameter redwood stump next week.
Compare the total hours of use and let us know how many times longer the Stihl lasts before needing repairs
As a member of the German culture i would suggest to Change the title of your short to China vs Germany. Because of Stihl and the country of Origin.....😅
Yes but how long will it run for?
Its a BRAND NEW chain bro. Of course 🙄🔥
Our department bought one of those chinese saws and it only ran for 2 weeks. A Stihl 462 is 7x more expensive but will last 700x longer.
All this hate because the guys being a little over cautious is crazy, you can never be too complacent cutting trees
Physics both scares and amazes me
Been using stihl saws for years bought a new small Stihl for around my shack blew it up on a tiny tree had the right oil/gas mixture I will not buy another
Properly set up with a good bar and a shark chain. Any running Saw can do that once or twice. But the question is how many times can it do it how long will it last.
The point is made that the 'imported' tools will get the job done..but likely not last as long. As a remodeler..I have tools that I have to depend on for frequent use and others I might only use once or twice in a year's time. That's where you make the smart choice to buy the cheaper tool. Would love to buy American every time but..oh well.
The main issue with farmertech is lacking quality control. It's the reason some people love them and some hate them