@@lalaniavI knew who she meant! People spell my last name wrong all the time. They ask me how to spell it. “How do you spell ‘Stay?’” 🤦🏼♀️ So don’t be offended, because she added an L. Siri does it ALL THE TIME. THANKS.
@@terripetre8159 The rights of the accused outweigh the victim's mental health. You're suggesting laws that assume the guilt of the accused before they've even gone to trial. It's thinking like this that leads to situations like Karen Read.
@@kathiewool4292 no he did not lose any rights when he became a suspect. Just because law enforcement believes he did it, doesn't mean that they did not ignore or not explore all possible avenues or suspects. Just because the victims families believe he did it also doesn't make him guilty. His rights far exceed any victims rights until he is actually convicted in court, not in the press or on RUclips. So regardless of how you have formed your opinion of his guilt, he in fact has not been proven guilty. On top of that, we don't really even know what is true and what is not. The information that has been leaked or shown only show one sides point of view and is usually leaked for the purpose of ensuring a certain point of view is believed over another. People forget INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty in a court of law until something happens to them or someone they know by being accused and harassed for something that they did not do.
Being the sister of a murder victim who was 18 & had just graduated from high school, I'm glad to see the Goncalves has reached the next level in the path of grief. The anger level is tough & can break apart families. Happy to see they made it through. They have now reached acceptance & are on their journey to justice. They now think more about their daughter's life, & less about the way that life ended. I'm sure they are sleeping better now, & the nightmares come less often. The overwhelming sadness visits from time to time, but doesn't live there anymore! Seeing them in this interview makes me very happy tp see they didn't get "stuck" along the way! Still praying for all of those families, because that trial is going to be hard & trigger them in a real hard way! I hope they have a therapist to get them through. The feelings after the trial, whichever way it ends, is going to feel like a tidal wave!
@@KansasCityScientologyAudit But if the State told you its starting to get hard placing him at the scene and there is no connection or stalking. Wouldnt you be having nightmares that they are not getting real justice.
Unfortunately, I understand everything you said...my niece was murdered; had the guy within 30 days but we didn't get to trial for 5 years...had to play all the litigation games they threw at us to be sure whatever the verdict was, it stuck. we had video, DNA all over the place, camera footage, all of it. Still took time and patience. Then after, you are correct, a total wave that hit my brother for another two years. Horror and pain unfathomable. I am so sorry about your sis, so very very sorry. 💗💗💗💗💗
@@vondacole4514 I absolutely would, & still do. My brother's murderer got off because his family paid off actual Jurors, & several of them told us so, but we're threatened by Chicago PD officers, so refused to say so in court!
Im having nightmares alright!! They are about 4 students being unalived in a sick, horrendous way and the State is accusing a young man with a good future and smarter then a wip. They say he went into the a house with a bunch of people and a packed parking lot of vehicles by his self and took out 2 students at the top floor then went to second floor and took out 2 more with 1 being much stronger then him. He did this between 8 to 12 min with just a K-Bar knife. Then ran out the back door and drove off so fast that all the DNA went out the window. Now every court date they have showes him more and more innocent. No connection, no DNA in car, apartment or office and no stalking. Then an expert witness who is going to testify in hearing his car wasnt at the crime scene. Prosecutor stating the thing the police write up about there arrest ( Just went braindead and forgot what its called) but is irrelevant now that the LE were caught lieing. Procecution is hiding something and wont handover paperwork. So many secrets and lies. Then Kaylee father saying in a interview that prosecution is having problems putting Bryan in connection to any off the victims. He is from Pennsylvania only been out there for couple months before crime and didnt know them. So ya pretty much having a nightmare. How do you get justice when he is innocent and is either still in jail for his safety or is working with LE. So how they getting justice? Since crime scene is gone.
@@wendyr9990 that doesn’t mean it won’t have an affect, too many people there just want it to be over and don’t care if they have the right guy or not, hopefully a change of venue will get away from that mentality.
@@Foolofatook889 There is still a higher probability of someone outside not knowing, or perhaps not knowing as much, about the case as someone from the area. I don't know what's next to Moscow, but if they moved to Boise, there would be literally 4x the population. I would image the likelihood of people knowing it the case intimately is less than in Moscow.
@gguchristine my husband pays NO attention to this sort of news. I don't understand why, he watches the news for weather and politics, but local crime I can ask him about it, literally during the talk of it during the newscast and he won't know what I'm talking about. He and his engineer colleagues are the same way.
I am so, SO sorry for the families all going through this. It’s something no one should ever have to face. I did take exception to the way Vinnie said ‘hoping we get a conviction’. I mean, yes, of course we want someone held accountable, but what we SHOULD want is the *right* person held accountable. We don’t know yet if that’s BK. We can’t know until the trial. The result we should want is a good investigation and a fair trial.
I personally don't think BK did it, but it seems many people have him convicted already... I'm just wondering if they have seen evidence as yet being the murderer of KMZE 😢. If he somehow is involved, he definitely didn't do this horrific crime on his own. I live in Australia, so maybe I have missed information regarding evidence...can someone enlighten me if I have please. I would love to see justice for the beautiful Idaho4. BUT the right person/people that did this ..just heartbreaking 💔
@@KerryCsongrady I agree with you, and that’s why this ‘wanting a conviction’ inference from Vinnie really bothered me. Nothing I’ve seen yet has convinced me 100% that he did it, even if some of it is awfully coincidental. Especially because they’re being cagey about the DNA it seems. Hi from a fellow Aussie! 😊
@@BeeMcDeeNancy and Vinny have had him convicted since the day of his arrest . Nothing that does not support their view is mentioned , nor the poor behaviour of prosecution and LE . Thank God that I live in Queensland where our justice system is pretty good , except for the Family Court .
And I’m in agreement that the trial needs to be fair. I think we need a change of venue. We have to do this right. If you truly think he’s guilty - then you should want a fair and just trial. You should be confident in it! And I believe he’s guilty so I want it done right the first time. Such a tragic case. So senseless. 😢
I'm just not convinced that one person could commit this crime, and LE found no blood or DNA in the alleged getaway car or DNA in the house except that one spot of touch DNA on the sheath. Also, this seems prejudicial pretrial, imho
While I understand having to drive 2 hours is less than ideal, the priority should be doing everything possible for the defendant to have a fair trial, especially since this is a death penalty case. I don't know if this will be possible even with a change of venue 2 hours away, given that most people talk about the defendant as if he has already been convicted, and forget that everyone is innocent until proven guilty
@@Paula-FunnyFarmI’m sure that if they really have an issue with travelling they could get zoom access. It’s likely gonna be on RUclips. Or they could crowdsource accomadations assistance. Convenience truly is minimally consequential .
@sallycinnamon5370 Obviously that would not be the same. There is no necessity in moving the trial 7 hrs away, people have heard about this case around the world, it won't change the verdict.
This brutal murder is beyond horrible. I feel so much for all the victims families. Please know so many loving and caring parents stand behind you and your families.
Yes I heard that also. Im really starting to see that they have the wrong man and these 2 have their family writing sentecing impact statements. There is no justice!! They are spending so much tome making BK be the perp that they let the real perps go and the crime scene is gone. So if they finally have the balls to admit they messed up and have the wrong man they have no chance to catch the real perps. This whole thing is sick!
@@carlamartinez4728He is telling the truth. Its was on Jules of trade but It was also stated in court when I saw it live streamed so thats the 2nd time I heard the state say it out of Bill Thompson mouth. He also said he didnt stalk them. They also said along time ago that he had no connection to them. No DNA in his car, apartment and office. Also a cell phone tower expert Sy Ray who cant find no connection he was around property or ever was. They are having a rough time proving he was involved and the DNA ended up being touch DNA and doesnt put him in that house. If it was blood, semin, or sweat it would be actual DNA but touch can be passed so easily from being in a store to place to place without person actually touching it. The lead detective lied so now the PCA is irrelevant was said by prosecutor also. I dont know why this young man is still in jail. It probably wont go to trial and how are thry getting justice to reinvestigate like they stated LE is doing yesturday to find tye real perps when they dont have a crime scene yet. They wasted time and money trying to make a innocent man guilty.
@@carlamartinez4728Sorry I typed that so fast and didnt proof read it but they dont have crime scene no more. Kaylees father also told the lawyer on another you tube creator that the state cannot find any connection of BK having anything to do with the victims but then is on here with his wife saying the whole family is making impacts statements. Who they making them for? Law enforcement and Moscow messed this case up so bad they will never get the real perps. I hope Bryan Kolhberger sues Moscow and Mainstream media so bad its becomes a ghost town. They did nothing but ruin his life just like the poor Chiropractor they accused of murder and had to let go and they never found the right killer. Look up Dr Moore who was accused of killing Dr. Drake in that same county. One of the detectives in that case was working with Brett Payne on this case when they had to let him go now the defendant lawyer just caught Brett Payne lying on the stand in this case. WOW and they havent done nothing about it yet but show everyone.
I don't think they'd have a basis for appeals on this. The defense team hasn't shown sufficient cause - if they ever do, remains to be seen - and the burden of proof on this matter is on the defendant, not the other way around.
There was no reason not to. All possible evidence was collected and the k1ll1ngs were so brutal that it had become a biohazard so they couldn’t do a jury visit even if they wanted to.
No it's not. Please stop spreading this nonsense. The prosecution and defense and police and FBI went through the house hundreds of times And documented everything. They also took laser scans of the house. Literally all the evidence was scraped out of it. You people are morons.
Steve goncalves is the reason why so many rumours have went round. That man could keep his face out the camera he cannot stop talking. He has spouted alot of nonsense. He literally is a water mouth. And loose lips sinks ships. I understand that his daughter was a victim but every other day he was in an interview. ONLY them two always the other families have been the most respectful to this case and their children
Would love to learn about the change of venue .Watching your channel I have learned so much about the law .Thank you Peter and thank your family for giving up time with you to teach us.
did you know two of the girls had their parents snitch on the drug trade when they got arrested? Xana's mother and Maddie's stepmother snitched on the Aryan Brotherhood recently before the murders. Tyson Farley (absconded from furlough at the time) and Tanya Rhoads were likely there that night (both AB members). there is audio from Linda Lane where someone is calling out to Farley over and over "Farley! Farley! I see you Farley!" as he seemed to try hiding. he was a drug dealer in the area, so he was well known. Dylan's boyfriend's father also a AB member, so that explains why the two were left safe
People forget about all the statements that the house was known to locals and to the college kids as where to go to get certain drugs..... it's so weird that the girl who claims she saw a masked man in the middle of the night never called the cops till after 10am .... and the cops never found any drugs in the house..... almost as if the crime scene might have been cleaned up a little
@@Tinmann_77 called cops at 11:58am AFTER inviting over a group of people to “check” why Xanas door couldn’t be opened….(but never thought to ask upstairs roommates)
I think a lot of people dont understand how important the rights of a defendant are. Those rights are not just in place for the defendant but also for the victims. If the rights of the defendant are violated then the case and all charges could be dropped and dismissed on a technicality. The rights of the defendant also protects the victims. So the victims should be pushing for a fair trial.
I think anyone interested in true crime do know or understand the importance of defendants rights….it boils down to the impatience for justice and of course they want a fair trial…they would not want to go through any of this again simply because of a technicality overlooked. IMO
@@j.c.7555yes it is impatience for closure. They want someone punished and they want them punished NOW. They are willing to beleive that the person the police told them is the killer is the killer NO MATTER WHAT because it gets them the closure they want. They no longer have to wonder who killed their love one. If you were a true fan of true crime you would know that every single time that someone is convicted and that conviction is overturned decades latter because of dna evidence or someone confessed later (and gave details only the killer would know) the families ALWAYS remain convinced that the person they thought was guilty because the police told them so is the "real killer" and they get offended that the conviction was overturned and the INNOCENT man was released and now they have to go through all that pain again. It's why we should hold prosecutors and judges to higher standards than we do, and they should not allow questionable evidence, its why media should be held accountable for its sensationalizing news reports with their OPINIONS that taint the jury pools.
@@j.c.7555 impatience comes with lack of knowledge. When things are rushed that when things get over looked. Lack of understanding and education and quick judgement comes from impatience.
The burden of proof is on the defendant to show sufficient cause for a COV. And he hasn't done that yet. So, no, his rights are not being violated in this case.
@@tonis8131 part of that burden is the requirement to show the current venue is biased. Which the defense was critizied for doing, when they did it in the manner most often used in trials. And they proved that latah County is biased against BK, so how haven't they met their burden? Just because YOU don't agree doesn't mean shit.
It really is a case that has problems. I've followed it since the beginning, the police and FBI seemed to have dropped the ball early on...they cleared too many people too fast, then 7 weeks later arrest some out of towner who's one statement after being arrested is "I look forward to being exonerated". The most haunting aspect is Bryan Kohberger is too smart to have made the mistakes they claim he made. It's impossible. Just my opinion but they have the wrong man. When I look at these beautiful kids who died with instagram and jealousy these girls had exes and enemies abound. The silence from the Greek community was deafening, speaks louder than anything. I know how immature these kids (the frat guys who were cleared) are, I know how they think, they are idiots, and this was a tantrum killing. I hope justice comes for theses family members.
My 15 year old daughter was raped by a 35 yr old Colombian man that is illegal and the DA did not want to continue the case and they took a year for them to tell me this and the illegal rapist that came from a gang is out there living his life.
@@CatacombManI think it was to do with shutting up potential whistleblowers in that house . Some LE were involved and the those with the Idaho University tie want BK to take the rap , so that there is no reputational damage .
Please do everything on the Kohberger case! This case is so horrendous, and I am interested in every step in the journey to justuce for these four victims!
I could care less at this point how brutal the murder was outside sentencing considerations. What matters at this point is guilt or innocence of a crime as opposed to what is purely emotional reasoning that has no place anywhere near the perimiters of the judiciary.
@@lalaniav The rule of emotion sits in antipathy to the rule of law such that allowing emotions to rule the court directly results in communisim - as the late Scalia, J. famously said, as Roberts, CJ. has said, and as Peter would most probably say, a good judge is willing to rule against their own personal positions and be intellectually honest about what the law is, and counsel for both sides must advocate for the truth and the correct application of the law to it because when we apply the law incorrectly or misdetermine material facts, it becomes a dark day for our democracy, and everyone should well know that emotions cloud judgment. It also stands that at the end of the day, God (or whatever higher power we suppose to exist) is the ultimate judge in the grand scheme of things.
No the emotional effect is irrelevant and has no place in the justice system. That said, there is a place for the victim’s family to have their own opinion on whether or not it to make a deal or to seek the death penalty. I do also believe that they have the right to be able to be present for the trial.
@@stevieb427 Criminal law is about the protection of society as a whole, not about the protection of some specific individual such that a prosecutor in representing the state is not representing a victim qui tam (e.g. the state does not proceed on behalf of the victim, but rather the state is the principal party such that the injury is to the state where we apply the case and controversey rule). Given that, how then do we properly arrive at this victim rights mentality of any shape or form, when we dont see this crop up in over 200 years of law up until the Burger court, wherein we saw the root of pervasive liberalism take root?
Sometimes the wheels of justice run over the wrong people when they move too fast. I don't think the change of venue is really slowing anything down. What's slowing things down is exculpatory evidence that the state won't produce. This suggests to me that the investigation was not thorough or complete and the victims' families deserve better than that. The need for a change of venue is due to the action of LE and it didn't have to go this way.
The defense attorneys have made on the record, in-court statements to the judge attesting to their confidence in their client’s innocence. That is actually not common for attorneys to do. They want to maintain credibility with the judges and don’t generally make such direct in-court statements. If I were the victims’ parents, I would want to know that the defense attorneys have seen that make them this confident. Major issue #2 is that they didn’t glean any dna evidence from his car. It doesn’t matter how well he cleaned it - it should have been a treasure trove. Major issue #3 is that the hearings have opened the closet door to some of the evidence and it sounds like things are NOT as cut and dry as they were made to sound in the probable cause affidavits and warrants. I would have a lot of questions if I were family of the victim, but I think it would be hard to be objective. You desperately want to believe the police got the right person. It would be unfathomable to think the perpetrator is out there walking around free…
Thank you as always Peter for your time and the breakdown of these cases. You are the absolute best and so is the LYK following. I work so I love being able to stay in the loop with your channel. You are a gifted lawyer, thoughtful, fair, compassionate, funny, and just a stand up relatable person. I appreciate you and your time. Also appreciate Papa T & John😊
Peter probably explained this. I live in ID and got confused. Legislation requires Prosecuting atty to be state not county as of 9/1. Some changes to public defenders too. Weird. So Anne resigned as County now is State. But still representing. Same job. Different paycheck.
I heard she ditched the municipal job and went into private practice, but still finishing this case. I also heard she took the Skylar Meade case (Idaho inmate who broke out of prison and killed two people)
@@sincerelyspecial3386 Anne has or is starting private practice. Since she is one of few lawyers eligible to defend DP cases she will still contract with the state; I think they said 13 in entire state that can be first chair. They are changing so the direct financial burden is on the state, through the state, instead of the counties but I am not sure if that is all public defenders or just capital cases.
@@coleengogerty3852What a terrible thing to say . It is more than likely that she has had a gut full of the prosecution lawyers who have been dodgy , disrespectful and totally uncooperative.
We waited 15 years for justice. Danyan Mangham murdered my stepson and another. He was captured within days but took 15 years in Miami Florida to finally see justice. Things need to change, not just for the victims family but for the accused. What about those that aren't guilty!! 15 years!!
I personally do not think the police or prosecutors have handled this case well whatsoever, I believe there is far more than “a shred of doubt” regarding Bryan’s culpability (in the very least, not as a lone actor), and I firmly believe it requires far more transparency and a consideration of all the facts and evidence that seems to be either ignored, discarded, or dismissed, to the detriment of genuine justice for the victims and for the perpetrators Please provide any and all Kohberger coverage, it’s the most complex, intriguing, and vital case in my opinion and I hope you’ll continue it until the end. Appreciate your efforts, nuance, professionalism, and insight
@@terripetre8159 I have extensively researched this case, your dismissal is inexcusable and such a farce assuming any opposition or critique is due to being biased in favor of Anne or Bryan instead of what the evidence and dubious case treatment suggests
@@dear_totheheartReasonable doubt always exists until the prosecutor eliminates it, and the prosecutor won't get a chance to do that before trial. Atm I'm predicting that I'll still have doubt at the end of this proceeding, but I don't think we know enough to be super confident (in either direction) right now.
Even if the families of the victims are not the primary consideration for change of venue (as some are insisting on this board), the fact remains that the presumption of a location is the county in question - and the burden is on Kohbeger to establish that he can't get a fair trial there. Not only that, but from what I've read, the place to evaluate whether or not someone can get a fair trial, according to case law, is during the voir dire in that location. And you don't need an entire county to be unbiased. You just need 12 fair-minded jurors plus some alternates. Also, in addition to impartiality, the defense argued on the basis of convenience for witnesses because Boise has an airport. Well they have 2 airports right there, so this is one more thing that the defense is absurdly arguing. In addition to what seems to be her own bias about the county in question.. She made this decision even before she hired this survey taker - and seemingly just to get the answer that she wanted, not to measure what was actually the case. And, allegedly, this survey taker even found the same results for the other locations under consideration. I agree with the State - short of something astonishing being uncovered during a voir dire, I see no reason either, this guy can't face his peers in the community where he is alleged to have committed this horrendous crime - and as other defendants have to. And also - the State pointed out that, if they determine there's too much bias during the voir dire - they can always have jurors brought in from another county and sequestered in Moscow for the trial - which is going to be 3 months long. What people also aren't getting here - this is the presumption - facing the community. And the families of the victims and the survivors are members of that community. Most of the witnesses around the circumstances of the immediate crimes are in that community too (police, neighbors, medical examiners, etc.) So, with a COV, you're actually inconveniencing the witnesses, quite the opposite of what the defense argued. People should also consider the costs of the trial - which I would think additionally play into the presumption of having the trial held in the county in question. This trial in particular is already costing Latah County taxpayers in the millions, I read. If you move it hundreds of miles away to Boise, costs will grow considerably higher - and, without the "benefits" of any revenue coming back into the community that's paying for it.
This case is so challenging but I would appreciate your coverage, Peter. It helps to see thinga as they go rather than only relying on media coverage. Thank you in advance
Peter this case is so heartbreaking. I hope you have the time to break this down for all especially because of your grace and empathy. You’re the perfect person to bring a little reason and understanding for what will inevitably be a painful trial for so many. Thanks for all you do.
I feel so badly for all these families, including BK’s family members who have suffered. I don’t believe Bryan is the killer, too many unanswered questions, the lack of DNA in such a bloody crime scene in his vehicle, apt, nothing, as if it’s been staged or set up. When the trial begins then we should see some evidence, something to link him other than touch DNA that could have come from any one of the hundreds of police/detectives in that small area.
A change of venue and a fair trial should outweigh anything. I think a change of venue is important. Victims families are just going to have to adjust, period!
I personally think they're trying to convict an innocent man. No hard evidence so far and shame on them for wanting just anybody convicted just for the sake of...
@@lonniekellyhawkins6493the case sounded more than solid with the arrest probable cause affidavit. The hearings this summer have provided a lot of context to that evidence that puts big question marks on a lot of it. And that’s just for the issues that required hearings! I’m sure the defense attorneys have even more. Even the judge seems to have hesitancies about the case. He’s said in one of these hearings “when this case goes to trial…IF this case goes to trial…”
No matter where the trial is, I'd be there. We moved, but we flew from TX to PA for every hearing because we made the decision that every time he left the jail, he saw our faces.
I wonder if the states office helps with travel costs? Or maybe there's a non-profit that helps assist victims' families during trail. Especially in a situation where the victims were in college and their family could be out of state or hours away in another part of the state. Finances always put extra stress on family's after tragedy. It's something they shouldn't have to worry about.
@@amandamosteller1371hmmm, plus legal fees. I have heard some shade thrown on the fam in this case, because they negotiated for book, film rights (according to Howard Blume) but of course they need money, had to hire an attorney and keep him on retainer all this time plus I imagine it’s been kinda hard to keep up the 9-5 with all that has happened. So yeah, I can see why ppl have to raise $$$ if they want to see the trial all the way thru. Gofundme and so forth.
@@amandamosteller1371 Maybe they could reach out to short term rental spots that would be willing to offer a discount and they can raise funds to pay for it.
I'm sorry you even had to go through such a thing. I agree about the length of time for this type of trial. The timing can't be predicted. Hearings get postponed. Things come up that have to be dealt with. Some cases are more complicated. Some areas are loaded down with more cases than others. There are too many variables to predict the length of time between the date of a crime and the outcome of a verdict. We just know that it takes time. Some cases take years for whatever reason.
I still don't think the guy killed all four students in such a short time.. Hopefully the prosecution has strong evidence to convince a jury that he in fact did this.
I feel bad for them, however beyond BKs presumption of innocence - I don't believe that he is responsible for committing these crimes. The more information that is coming out about BK (his innocence), and my questions about the suspicious activity regarding the surviving roommates and invited over friends/frats activity prior to 911 call..
Big ass cover up. No way he did it. Sorry for loss but all the facts and things lingering...not to mention the vidoes on those streests. The white bmw. Etc.
Imo a fair trial should be the first consideration in order to better avoid a case being reversed & possibly being retried. Best to do all possible to get it right the 1st time
highly request the continued coverage of this case. I still remember waking up to this news & feeling so disgusted. I was actually in a forensics class at the time too so lots of lectures I could tie back to this case. I really hope the victims & society get much due justice.
I feel very badly for the Families and Friends, and of course the kids who had their lives end in such a tragic way. I’ve been following from the beginning, but I do have to say that there has to be a fair trial and I don’t see that happening in Latah County.
@@jamesbuttery3862 I'm not CoachKarin but i can answer that one. Vinnie Pollitan was a Prosecutor and present a one sided view of everything he reports on. Most of his guests also reflect the same viewpoint.
@@chuckrafiki8649 not in my opinion, I don't think he has any views that's Karen Read was guilty, seems to report on Richard Allen case pretty independently. In the Karen Read case he had that young guy Nick on, who believes she's 100% innocent, and then he had the older bald gentleman who always disagreed with Nick and thought Reed may have been guilty. I see his guests argue all the time about cases. I don't see how he has guests that always push his point of view... He probably doesn't even choose the guests who come on.
Me either! They use to be a consistent go-to channel until I realized how much misinformation and lies they tell. When you have to fact check everything they say, it is not worth putting that time in.
I cannot imagine the living nightmare, and their pain. I feel for them. I also want there to be justice delivered to the right perpetrator, I hope they have the right guy but at this stage my mind is open, nothing has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt yet.
Honestly, more than ever, I am behind Bryan Kohberger's rights to receive a fair trial. Much of that emotion is fueled by the bad behavior that the Goncalves family, Steve in particular, has shown throughout the early investigation and how inappropriately they've acted. They hired a lawyer, trying to twist the law's arm in handing over evidence they'd gather, because he felt his family was entitled to it. They WERE NOT. He criticized the investigators as doing nothing, and pressured them to release info they didn't want out there, for obvious reasons! He was critical of them not releasing the car info, bashing them for not trying hard enough to solve this case. Meanwhile, they were already tracking Kohberger and his father across country, and did not want that info all over the media because they did not want him alerted to the fact that they were trailing him. Goncalves has threatened to blow this whole case with his public nonsense, and I am beginning to believe they might be railroading Kohberger because they want him to pay. They don't care if it's THE right person, only that THIS person get convicted. So, I'm glad that Kohberger has a good attorney who is fighting for his rights because of the mob mentality that Goncalves is leading with his torch. And, to skywatchers everywhere, Kohberger's alibi makes perfect sense. To view nighttime events, with planets, comets, etc, the optimal time is in the wee hours of the morning, when there is the least amount of light interference in the skies. And the fact that he took pictures of the stars and the sky at that park? That is someone only the really dedicated astronomy nerds do. My friend is one of them.....he once slept in a South American desert to view the spectacular skies without giving a thought to the fact that rattlesnakes love to look for warm bodies and places to snuggle on a cold desert night. So, yes, his alibi makes perfect sense. That house was a 24/7 party place, with people coming and going and not even knowing who lived there. It's possible that Kohberger himself may have been there at some time, because we know he went to the pizza place they worked at. If he was trying to get to know them, it's very likely he could have wandered in at some point, which would explain evidence. So, people need to tread carefully here. This man is facing the death penalty, which means a fair trial is the most important factor, here. I wish the Goncalves' and their lawyer would shut up. Even the other families have distanced themselves from them and have shunned "joining" them in their very public mission.
I agree with everything you have said. There is something about the Goncalves parents even the elder sister. But apart from the touch DNA on a sheath button there was no other DNA found of kohbergers. The only other DNA found was from 3 UNKNOW MAKES but LE didn't investigate it. Strange.
I completely understand the families wanting the venue to be close to them, I really do. But, there’s absolutely no way he gets a fair trial in Latah County. They will have no choice but to move the venue. The family has quite the following on Facebook. I’m sure their followers would have no problem contributing to a Go Fund Me or something similar so that they can stay wherever the venue ends up for 6-8 weeks.
It's going to be amazing to see the lack of evidence and the amount of "experts" the prosecution uses to say "this means this because we say it does and if you don't follow our convoluted bs then you are stupid" and bk will be found guilty because people want a scape goat. Just like the prosecution in the Murtaugh trial didn't make sense, and to any person remotely familiar with guns the prosecution testimony that short barrel shotguns aren't a thing and don't exist only shotguns with 4ft barrels like the one they seized but wasn't the murder weapon...... and the judge saying that the defense couldn't bring up the death threats the dead kid got from family members of the girl he killed in the drunken boating accident... as if revenge killings aren't a thing..... and that Murtaugh killed his wife and one son to somehow cover up the financial crimes he was being investigated for? As if a lawyer wouldn't know that just because your a victim in crime B doesn't make the investigation of crime A go away? Murtaugh was convicted because he was unlikable and people wanted him in jail, they didn't care if he killed his wife and kid they just wanted him in jail so ignored all the evidence that either Murtaugh couldn't have done it (he cell moving up to the house at the same time the phone found on his wife's body was moved) or that if he was involved he couldn't have done it alone (prosecution claims he did it 100% alone)
Hey LYK, The Gfam was just on the interview room again. McDunuuh (phonetically cuz Im too lazy to look😊) is saying, the families deserve a local jury! The inmate does not matter! The only people that matter are the victims! What a statement, definitely deserves a watch. He opens up with it....❤
Well the victims are dead, so they don't care. The victims family shouldn't have a say in where the case is being held because it's not their right to a fair trial that is being impacted it is the defendants right to a fair trial.
Something about the way that second sentence is structured, combined with the lack of quotes separating "The only people that matter are the victims!" from "What a statement..." makes it easy to overlook the fact that you are talking about someone else's opinion. It reads as if "The only people that matter are the victims!" is your opinion. I'm not 100% sure why,¹ but I think it would be more clear what you meant if you used quotes like so: ...again. McDunuuh (phonetically cuz Im too lazy to look😊) is saying "the families deserve a local jury! The inmate does not matter! The only people that matter are the victims!" What a statement...
I feel for thousands of Victims who Wait for Justice in our system... but a presumption of innocence applies until All Evidence is presented to a Jury or judge. Change of Venue can possibly tighten and Quicken a subsequent trial-- without a certain appeal, if convicted. Our legal system is being challenged on the fly these days, with Bits of information and lots of assumptions streaming ahead of Courts in media. Also, apparently there's Plenty of habitually reckless and deplorably biased police work, sometimes with prosecutorial and judicial misconduct-- which actually Delays Justice for survivors as well. I can only imagine how they feel about Kohberger, but rushing this will only Delay Justice further, imho.
Exactly. It doesn't matter to me if he is found guilty or innocent. What I want to see is a fair justice system (something I haven't seen in 99% of the cases I've watched in the past 4 years). I'm sick of seeing the obviously corrupt system violate peoples rights and seeing people cheer because they got to punish someone. Any time I have to work alongside anyone from my local sheriff's office I tell them they better be on their best behavior and not fuck around because if they fuck up ill be the first defense witness to discredit their work (I tell them this to their faces) because I recently watched their ineptitude and corruption try to convict someone for a murder that he didn't commit.
@@Tinmann_77 Now that cameras are in courtrooms and everywhere else, we can at least see the scales coming off. It IS a corrupt system, that has allowed some of these 'manuevers' to seemingly be 'normal' in our system. As far as I'm concerned, once authorities involved have flagrantly violated a defendants rights, I wouldn't be able to convict, as a juror. I can't wait for some of these 'authorities' meet the Constitution again!
This was a horrific crime, and understandably the families want the perpetrator to be held responsible. But at this point, it has not been proven who committed the murders. Our feelings are not proof. The defendant deserves a just trial, and a change of venue seems prudent.
They don't care who the perpetrator is. They don't care about finding out who it actually was. All they care about is punishing someone, anyone, right now.
I think if it were my child, I would support a change of venue in order to get the cleanest case possible presented to an impartial jury. It might be harder in the short-term and during the trial process but, in the long-run, a potential conviction could be more solid because of it.
As long as they have 12 fair minded jurors, I don't see how the Defense would have a basis for appeal on this matter. They don't have a solid argument on this issue as of yet - and the burden of proof is on their end. The presumption for a location is Latah County.
There was 4 young adults murdered only 1 of said parents are moaning, those said parents are also the only ones taking every opportunity to have their face in the media they are also likely the reason why this trial needs to be moved because Steve goncalves spoke so much shit and put out so much false information that the general public ran with. There is something very deep that doesn't sit right with me either of them I understand wanting justice for your children but stfu and have some respect got the other family's that's also apart or the trial they talk and behave like it was only their child
@@ElevateYourExistence8979 What is wrong with some of you? Kaylee's parents aren't the reason there's so much publicity around this case. There's so much publicity because the crime was so horrific. All of the families grieve and have to find their own way through this terrible and you cannot possibly imagine pain. Stop judging these families and pray that something like this never happens to yours. And that this case is truly resolved by the end of next summer.
@tonis8131 the amount of false information that steve said is the reason why so many rumours where flying about actually, because nobody else has spike about this case. Just him
@@ElevateYourExistence8979 I've never heard Steve give out false information. That's other people on the internet starting stories. I think Steve knows that the system doesn't always work the way it should, and that you have to fight to make sure that it does, and this is his way of fighting for their little girl who didn't otherwise have a chance and making sure that justice is served to the extent that it ever can be. Heartbreaking. He's just a father who loves his daughter.
Im mixed on if the trail should be moved. But i have to say, I have questions . I don't understand how it took so long for police to be called. I don't understand the other 2 girls not thinking anything was wrong. And that girl that supposedly saw him ... wth, strange guy coming from a roommates room, and you don't go asking questions?? That doesn't make sense to me.
Yes! I had same questions. But I had intruder in my house (like I heard outside) but didn’t click together till next morning (was late night). I saw damage and then clicked that what I heard was actually somebody in my property. Even porch lights came on but they do normally when cat goes by. My first thought was somebody was running down the street
Thank you Peter, for continuing to cover this case. As a Mom, my heart goes out to all of the families and friends of Kaylee, Maddy, Zana, and Ethan. I'll be honest, I don't know if I could remain as strong as they have. It is incredible and beautiful to see their strength everytime they speak. No parent should ever have to bury their child. These kids did not deserve this. It's just so heartbreaking. I truly hope that justice is served. Fly high Kaylee 🕊 Madison 🕊 Ethan 🕊 Zana 🕊
I do too! I'm not sure how they can just push for a conviction? What if BK is innocent? Looks like he is to me. There must be some kind of monetary gain that goes along with a conviction. Imo
@@alicencosgrove5533but what we do know is that NO dna was found in his house, the vehicle he apparently drove away from had no dna present (but apparently he committed 4 close up brutal murders) he was not and has never been pinged anywhere near the house and the only dna that they have said they have is trace DNA on the button. Not even on the whole sheath.
The couple times I watched that channel, seems like all they're doing is trying to defend Kohberger, when it appears the state has solid evidence of his guilt
These are the same people who could'nt be inconvenienced with driving to Moscow after a relative called and told them their daughter wasn't alive anymore--per their many interviews.
Exactly. Their cinstant complaints are just to manipulate the public and judge. They couldn’t even go to Moscow when they received the news. Their inconvenience is irrelevant to the defendant’s constitutional rights.
🙋♀ Thank you, Peter, for another informative episode. I don’t know how to put this where it doesn’t come across sounding harsh or cruel, but when it comes to change of venue, first and foremost should be the rights of the accused to get a fair trial. No question, the opinion of family is important, and how it will cause hardship with traveling etc., however it’s a *much smaller* consideration compared to the rights of the accused. Based on your prior videos, and others I’ve heard, explaining the pros and cons of leaving it local, I’m not sure I’ve been convinced that he could *not* get a fair trial there with the jury pool available. All concerns could be worked out fairly easily during actual jury selection.
Incredibly thoughtful and heartbreaking for these parents. The commentary and questions by Vinnie I find frustrating and I so respect this channel with presumed innocence - asking about victim impact etc etc like this trial is just a mere hoop to get thru I just don’t like. I feel these parents and families need to be close but was not sure are all the parents effected by which county ? I am so appreciative of gavel to gavel coverage but always get concerned w high profile cases where a verdict seems to precede a trial Do not blame or judge these parents in any way - just to be absolutely clear their voices are free to speak however they choose.
With the information that we do have right now. You are right. It will be Intersting to see what else comes out in the trial. But honestly I believe it was someone from LE or a family member.
I hope they are getting therapy and trying to heal as they go along the process of the trial as well. A verdict is what everyone wants with the person who did it, but it doesn’t bring them back. It’s so heartbreaking 💔 😢 Can’t the families have zoom feeds if they can’t be there for any reason?
Of course it's a cover up. They know BK didn't do it. They know exactly who done it and why the LE plus the families. If u have noticed only the family with the drug charges are moving their mouths.. there is a huge cover up in this case and as brutal as the 4 murders were. Whoever did this is capable of doing more and they probably know LE cannot protect them.
Please continue all Kohlberger coverage. Thank you, Peter.
Kohberger *
GO GET A LIFE, PLEASE
@@lalaniavI knew who she meant! People spell my last name wrong all the time. They ask me how to spell it. “How do you spell ‘Stay?’” 🤦🏼♀️
So don’t be offended, because she added an L. Siri does it ALL THE TIME. THANKS.
@@lalaniav there is nothing worse than a freaking grammar Nazi on the Internet
Yes Please
Defendant’s right to a fair trial - even if it means a change of venue - should supersede survivor’s inconvenience. It sucks. But it’s law.
We can vote for new laws to protect victim’s mental health.
@@terripetre8159 The rights of the accused outweigh the victim's mental health. You're suggesting laws that assume the guilt of the accused before they've even gone to trial. It's thinking like this that leads to situations like Karen Read.
Are you crazy? Sure seems like it. You must be suspect lost most of his rights when he became a suspect.
Couldn't agree more. The process is the process for very important reasons. Sometimes it is painful but the alternatives are much worse. @@KarazolaX
@@kathiewool4292 no he did not lose any rights when he became a suspect. Just because law enforcement believes he did it, doesn't mean that they did not ignore or not explore all possible avenues or suspects. Just because the victims families believe he did it also doesn't make him guilty. His rights far exceed any victims rights until he is actually convicted in court, not in the press or on RUclips. So regardless of how you have formed your opinion of his guilt, he in fact has not been proven guilty. On top of that, we don't really even know what is true and what is not. The information that has been leaked or shown only show one sides point of view and is usually leaked for the purpose of ensuring a certain point of view is believed over another. People forget INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty in a court of law until something happens to them or someone they know by being accused and harassed for something that they did not do.
Being the sister of a murder victim who was 18 & had just graduated from high school, I'm glad to see the Goncalves has reached the next level in the path of grief. The anger level is tough & can break apart families. Happy to see they made it through. They have now reached acceptance & are on their journey to justice. They now think more about their daughter's life, & less about the way that life ended. I'm sure they are sleeping better now, & the nightmares come less often. The overwhelming sadness visits from time to time, but doesn't live there anymore! Seeing them in this interview makes me very happy tp see they didn't get "stuck" along the way! Still praying for all of those families, because that trial is going to be hard & trigger them in a real hard way! I hope they have a therapist to get them through. The feelings after the trial, whichever way it ends, is going to feel like a tidal wave!
@@KansasCityScientologyAudit But if the State told you its starting to get hard placing him at the scene and there is no connection or stalking. Wouldnt you be having nightmares that they are not getting real justice.
Unfortunately, I understand everything you said...my niece was murdered; had the guy within 30 days but we didn't get to trial for 5 years...had to play all the litigation games they threw at us to be sure whatever the verdict was, it stuck. we had video, DNA all over the place, camera footage, all of it. Still took time and patience. Then after, you are correct, a total wave that hit my brother for another two years. Horror and pain unfathomable. I am so sorry about your sis, so very very sorry. 💗💗💗💗💗
@@vondacole4514 I absolutely would, & still do. My brother's murderer got off because his family paid off actual Jurors, & several of them told us so, but we're threatened by Chicago PD officers, so refused to say so in court!
Im having nightmares alright!! They are about 4 students being unalived in a sick, horrendous way and the State is accusing a young man with a good future and smarter then a wip. They say he went into the a house with a bunch of people and a packed parking lot of vehicles by his self and took out 2 students at the top floor then went to second floor and took out 2 more with 1 being much stronger then him. He did this between 8 to 12 min with just a K-Bar knife. Then ran out the back door and drove off so fast that all the DNA went out the window. Now every court date they have showes him more and more innocent. No connection, no DNA in car, apartment or office and no stalking. Then an expert witness who is going to testify in hearing his car wasnt at the crime scene. Prosecutor stating the thing the police write up about there arrest ( Just went braindead and forgot what its called) but is irrelevant now that the LE were caught lieing. Procecution is hiding something and wont handover paperwork. So many secrets and lies. Then Kaylee father saying in a interview that prosecution is having problems putting Bryan in connection to any off the victims. He is from Pennsylvania only been out there for couple months before crime and didnt know them. So ya pretty much having a nightmare. How do you get justice when he is innocent and is either still in jail for his safety or is working with LE. So how they getting justice? Since crime scene is gone.
The real murder is hiding the hoddie guy js is their killer who killed them souls
I 100% agree , change of venue is warranted!
Agreed
So glad there will be a change of venue, a fair trial is above all else! Innocent until proven guilty! It’s wild so many people don’t understand this.
Change of venue will not affect this case. There isn’t anyone who hasn’t heard of it in Idaho.
@@wendyr9990 that doesn’t mean it won’t have an affect, too many people there just want it to be over and don’t care if they have the right guy or not, hopefully a change of venue will get away from that mentality.
There is literally no one in the state that doesn’t know about the case. It’s not going to do anything.
@@Foolofatook889 There is still a higher probability of someone outside not knowing, or perhaps not knowing as much, about the case as someone from the area. I don't know what's next to Moscow, but if they moved to Boise, there would be literally 4x the population. I would image the likelihood of people knowing it the case intimately is less than in Moscow.
@gguchristine my husband pays NO attention to this sort of news. I don't understand why, he watches the news for weather and politics, but local crime I can ask him about it, literally during the talk of it during the newscast and he won't know what I'm talking about. He and his engineer colleagues are the same way.
I am so, SO sorry for the families all going through this. It’s something no one should ever have to face.
I did take exception to the way Vinnie said ‘hoping we get a conviction’. I mean, yes, of course we want someone held accountable, but what we SHOULD want is the *right* person held accountable. We don’t know yet if that’s BK. We can’t know until the trial. The result we should want is a good investigation and a fair trial.
I personally don't think BK did it, but it seems many people have him convicted already... I'm just wondering if they have seen evidence as yet being the murderer of KMZE 😢. If he somehow is involved, he definitely didn't do this horrific crime on his own.
I live in Australia, so maybe I have missed information regarding evidence...can someone enlighten me if I have please.
I would love to see justice for the beautiful Idaho4. BUT the right person/people that did this ..just heartbreaking 💔
@@KerryCsongrady I agree with you, and that’s why this ‘wanting a conviction’ inference from Vinnie really bothered me. Nothing I’ve seen yet has convinced me 100% that he did it, even if some of it is awfully coincidental. Especially because they’re being cagey about the DNA it seems.
Hi from a fellow Aussie! 😊
@@BeeMcDeeNancy and Vinny have had him convicted since the day of his arrest . Nothing that does not support their view is mentioned , nor the poor behaviour of prosecution and LE . Thank God that I live in Queensland where our justice system is pretty good , except for the Family Court .
He did it. Idk how you think there’s no evidence? You clearly don’t watch.
And I’m in agreement that the trial needs to be fair. I think we need a change of venue. We have to do this right. If you truly think he’s guilty - then you should want a fair and just trial. You should be confident in it! And I believe he’s guilty so I want it done right the first time.
Such a tragic case. So senseless. 😢
I'm just not convinced that one person could commit this crime, and LE found no blood or DNA in the alleged getaway car or DNA in the house except that one spot of touch DNA on the sheath. Also, this seems prejudicial pretrial, imho
The dna on the sheath is pretty good evidence.
I still wanna know why they didn’t call the police first
5588 : Dylan Mortenson and Bethany Funke should be locked up
@@sandymoonstone855they definitely spent some time cleaning up any evidence of their own illicit activities
I do not believe that either girl was home at the time . Dylan was forced to sign that affidavit , IMO .
it was a party and drugs house. There will be surprises....
@@BlackStump172does Ann Taylor know Dylan was allegedly forced to give a false statement about where she was night of the murders.
While I understand having to drive 2 hours is less than ideal, the priority should be doing everything possible for the defendant to have a fair trial, especially since this is a death penalty case. I don't know if this will be possible even with a change of venue 2 hours away, given that most people talk about the defendant as if he has already been convicted, and forget that everyone is innocent until proven guilty
If it stays in Moscow it will be about 2 hours away for the families. If it is moved to Boise it will be over 7 hour for the families.
@@Paula-FunnyFarmI’m sure that if they really have an issue with travelling they could get zoom access. It’s likely gonna be on RUclips. Or they could crowdsource accomadations assistance.
Convenience truly is minimally consequential .
I don't think that will impact the verdict in this case. A jury is quite capable of reaching a fair verdict despite hearing about the case.
@sallycinnamon5370 Obviously that would not be the same. There is no necessity in moving the trial 7 hrs away, people have heard about this case around the world, it won't change the verdict.
@@sallycinnamon5370in your opinion since it’s not your family that’s the victim.
This brutal murder is beyond horrible. I feel so much for all the victims families. Please know so many loving and caring parents stand behind you and your families.
Yes!! Change of venue hearing!! This is huge!!!
Thanks Peter. Yes, please continue to cover this case.
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE KEEP US UPDATED WITH IDAHO4 PETER, THX
GO GET A LIFE, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE....
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Just saw a video that showed the state said for a 2nd time that BK wasnt even near the home that night! This is HUGE
Yes I heard that also. Im really starting to see that they have the wrong man and these 2 have their family writing sentecing impact statements. There is no justice!! They are spending so much tome making BK be the perp that they let the real perps go and the crime scene is gone. So if they finally have the balls to admit they messed up and have the wrong man they have no chance to catch the real perps. This whole thing is sick!
Can you cite that video? I find it hard to believe what you're saying!
@carlamartinez4728 yes I'm trying to respect this creator, if it's ok, I'll say it anyway Julez w true crime reactions
@@carlamartinez4728He is telling the truth. Its was on Jules of trade but It was also stated in court when I saw it live streamed so thats the 2nd time I heard the state say it out of Bill Thompson mouth. He also said he didnt stalk them. They also said along time ago that he had no connection to them. No DNA in his car, apartment and office. Also a cell phone tower expert Sy Ray who cant find no connection he was around property or ever was. They are having a rough time proving he was involved and the DNA ended up being touch DNA and doesnt put him in that house. If it was blood, semin, or sweat it would be actual DNA but touch can be passed so easily from being in a store to place to place without person actually touching it. The lead detective lied so now the PCA is irrelevant was said by prosecutor also. I dont know why this young man is still in jail. It probably wont go to trial and how are thry getting justice to reinvestigate like they stated LE is doing yesturday to find tye real perps when they dont have a crime scene yet. They wasted time and money trying to make a innocent man guilty.
@@carlamartinez4728Sorry I typed that so fast and didnt proof read it but they dont have crime scene no more. Kaylees father also told the lawyer on another you tube creator that the state cannot find any connection of BK having anything to do with the victims but then is on here with his wife saying the whole family is making impacts statements. Who they making them for? Law enforcement and Moscow messed this case up so bad they will never get the real perps. I hope Bryan Kolhberger sues Moscow and Mainstream media so bad its becomes a ghost town. They did nothing but ruin his life just like the poor Chiropractor they accused of murder and had to let go and they never found the right killer. Look up Dr Moore who was accused of killing Dr. Drake in that same county. One of the detectives in that case was working with Brett Payne on this case when they had to let him go now the defendant lawyer just caught Brett Payne lying on the stand in this case. WOW and they havent done nothing about it yet but show everyone.
Change of venue is good, prevent a bunch of appeals
I don't think they'd have a basis for appeals on this. The defense team hasn't shown sufficient cause - if they ever do, remains to be seen - and the burden of proof on this matter is on the defendant, not the other way around.
I can’t believe they tore that house down.
There was no reason not to. All possible evidence was collected and the k1ll1ngs were so brutal that it had become a biohazard so they couldn’t do a jury visit even if they wanted to.
It’s sickening they tore it down!
Agree 💯
No it's not. Please stop spreading this nonsense. The prosecution and defense and police and FBI went through the house hundreds of times And documented everything. They also took laser scans of the house. Literally all the evidence was scraped out of it. You people are morons.
No judge is going to have a jury tour a murder scene. Period. The house held no other evidence. It’s gone. Move on.
Well people it is not justice if you condemn the wrong person. It’s just murder of another person
Unfortunately, changing venue may well be a consequence due to the family members who chose to vocalize in the media.
Steve goncalves is the reason why so many rumours have went round. That man could keep his face out the camera he cannot stop talking. He has spouted alot of nonsense.
He literally is a water mouth.
And loose lips sinks ships. I understand that his daughter was a victim but every other day he was in an interview. ONLY them two always the other families have been the most respectful to this case and their children
Would love to learn about the change of venue .Watching your channel I have learned so much about the law .Thank you Peter and thank your family for giving up time with you to teach us.
did you know two of the girls had their parents snitch on the drug trade when they got arrested? Xana's mother and Maddie's stepmother snitched on the Aryan Brotherhood recently before the murders. Tyson Farley (absconded from furlough at the time) and Tanya Rhoads were likely there that night (both AB members). there is audio from Linda Lane where someone is calling out to Farley over and over "Farley! Farley! I see you Farley!" as he seemed to try hiding. he was a drug dealer in the area, so he was well known. Dylan's boyfriend's father also a AB member, so that explains why the two were left safe
People forget about all the statements that the house was known to locals and to the college kids as where to go to get certain drugs..... it's so weird that the girl who claims she saw a masked man in the middle of the night never called the cops till after 10am .... and the cops never found any drugs in the house..... almost as if the crime scene might have been cleaned up a little
@@Tinmann_77 called cops at 11:58am AFTER inviting over a group of people to “check” why Xanas door couldn’t be opened….(but never thought to ask upstairs roommates)
Hope you are having a great Tuesday Peter! Thank you SO much for taking time out of your day for your videos! Great content! ☀️
I think a lot of people dont understand how important the rights of a defendant are. Those rights are not just in place for the defendant but also for the victims. If the rights of the defendant are violated then the case and all charges could be dropped and dismissed on a technicality. The rights of the defendant also protects the victims. So the victims should be pushing for a fair trial.
I think anyone interested in true crime do know or understand the importance of defendants rights….it boils down to the impatience for justice and of course they want a fair trial…they would not want to go through any of this again simply because of a technicality overlooked. IMO
@@j.c.7555yes it is impatience for closure. They want someone punished and they want them punished NOW. They are willing to beleive that the person the police told them is the killer is the killer NO MATTER WHAT because it gets them the closure they want. They no longer have to wonder who killed their love one.
If you were a true fan of true crime you would know that every single time that someone is convicted and that conviction is overturned decades latter because of dna evidence or someone confessed later (and gave details only the killer would know) the families ALWAYS remain convinced that the person they thought was guilty because the police told them so is the "real killer" and they get offended that the conviction was overturned and the INNOCENT man was released and now they have to go through all that pain again.
It's why we should hold prosecutors and judges to higher standards than we do, and they should not allow questionable evidence, its why media should be held accountable for its sensationalizing news reports with their OPINIONS that taint the jury pools.
@@j.c.7555 impatience comes with lack of knowledge. When things are rushed that when things get over looked. Lack of understanding and education and quick judgement comes from impatience.
The burden of proof is on the defendant to show sufficient cause for a COV. And he hasn't done that yet. So, no, his rights are not being violated in this case.
@@tonis8131 part of that burden is the requirement to show the current venue is biased. Which the defense was critizied for doing, when they did it in the manner most often used in trials. And they proved that latah County is biased against BK, so how haven't they met their burden?
Just because YOU don't agree doesn't mean shit.
It is such a painful case. I want to watch and learn about the case on one hand but on the other hand, it makes me so sad.
It really is a case that has problems. I've followed it since the beginning, the police and FBI seemed to have dropped the ball early on...they cleared too many people too fast, then 7 weeks later arrest some out of towner who's one statement after being arrested is "I look forward to being exonerated". The most haunting aspect is Bryan Kohberger is too smart to have made the mistakes they claim he made. It's impossible. Just my opinion but they have the wrong man. When I look at these beautiful kids who died with instagram and jealousy these girls had exes and enemies abound. The silence from the Greek community was deafening, speaks louder than anything. I know how immature these kids (the frat guys who were cleared) are, I know how they think, they are idiots, and this was a tantrum killing. I hope justice comes for theses family members.
My 15 year old daughter was raped by a 35 yr old Colombian man that is illegal and the DA did not want to continue the case and they took a year for them to tell me this and the illegal rapist that came from a gang is out there living his life.
Same
@@CatacombManI think it was to do with shutting up potential whistleblowers in that house . Some LE were involved and the those with the Idaho University tie want BK to take the rap , so that there is no reputational damage .
Thanks so much for your comment, Brian K. himself aka@@CatacombMan
the feds want this one to disappear out of the spot light
They should want the correct person held accountable. IMO Kohberger is NOT the correct guy.
Then it's curious why LEOs in multiple agencies aren't still looking for the killer?
There is powerful evidence against BK. Let the jury decide.
@@mortalclown3812 What is this powerful evidence, pray tell?
@@mortalclown3812and how do you know that they are not. You have no clue what LE are going behind the scenes
Well, Peter, two great videos in one day! Thank you very much! My heart truly breaks for the victims' families!
Yes, please break down the COV hearing. That would be great. Thanks!
I'm definitely interested in following this trial.
Please do everything on the Kohberger case! This case is so horrendous, and I am interested in every step in the journey to justuce for these four victims!
I could care less at this point how brutal the murder was outside sentencing considerations. What matters at this point is guilt or innocence of a crime as opposed to what is purely emotional reasoning that has no place anywhere near the perimiters of the judiciary.
Right! It’s absolutely absurd. I feel awful for the families but their emotions absolutely should NEVER dictate the criminal justice system.
@@lalaniav The rule of emotion sits in antipathy to the rule of law such that allowing emotions to rule the court directly results in communisim - as the late Scalia, J. famously said, as Roberts, CJ. has said, and as Peter would most probably say, a good judge is willing to rule against their own personal positions and be intellectually honest about what the law is, and counsel for both sides must advocate for the truth and the correct application of the law to it because when we apply the law incorrectly or misdetermine material facts, it becomes a dark day for our democracy, and everyone should well know that emotions cloud judgment. It also stands that at the end of the day, God (or whatever higher power we suppose to exist) is the ultimate judge in the grand scheme of things.
No the emotional effect is irrelevant and has no place in the justice system. That said, there is a place for the victim’s family to have their own opinion on whether or not it to make a deal or to seek the death penalty. I do also believe that they have the right to be able to be present for the trial.
@@stevieb427 Criminal law is about the protection of society as a whole, not about the protection of some specific individual such that a prosecutor in representing the state is not representing a victim qui tam (e.g. the state does not proceed on behalf of the victim, but rather the state is the principal party such that the injury is to the state where we apply the case and controversey rule). Given that, how then do we properly arrive at this victim rights mentality of any shape or form, when we dont see this crop up in over 200 years of law up until the Burger court, wherein we saw the root of pervasive liberalism take root?
Sometimes the wheels of justice run over the wrong people when they move too fast. I don't think the change of venue is really slowing anything down. What's slowing things down is exculpatory evidence that the state won't produce. This suggests to me that the investigation was not thorough or complete and the victims' families deserve better than that. The need for a change of venue is due to the action of LE and it didn't have to go this way.
The defense attorneys have made on the record, in-court statements to the judge attesting to their confidence in their client’s innocence. That is actually not common for attorneys to do. They want to maintain credibility with the judges and don’t generally make such direct in-court statements. If I were the victims’ parents, I would want to know that the defense attorneys have seen that make them this confident. Major issue #2 is that they didn’t glean any dna evidence from his car. It doesn’t matter how well he cleaned it - it should have been a treasure trove. Major issue #3 is that the hearings have opened the closet door to some of the evidence and it sounds like things are NOT as cut and dry as they were made to sound in the probable cause affidavits and warrants. I would have a lot of questions if I were family of the victim, but I think it would be hard to be objective. You desperately want to believe the police got the right person. It would be unfathomable to think the perpetrator is out there walking around free…
@herroyalhighness5634 , adding possibility of more than one perpetrator.
@@SusanBarkman definitely. I praying the things asked for, come in discovery. I think 3rd party culpability is the way. LE messed up BAD.
Thank you as always Peter for your time and the breakdown of these cases. You are the absolute best and so is the LYK following. I work so I love being able to stay in the loop with your channel. You are a gifted lawyer, thoughtful, fair, compassionate, funny, and just a stand up relatable person. I appreciate you and your time. Also appreciate Papa T & John😊
Would like you to break down anything Koeberger ! Thank you!
I would love to hear a breakdown of the change of venue hearing!!
Absolutely want you to cover the change of venue hearing
Peter probably explained this. I live in ID and got confused. Legislation requires Prosecuting atty to be state not county as of 9/1. Some changes to public defenders too. Weird. So Anne resigned as County now is State. But still representing. Same job. Different paycheck.
I heard she ditched the municipal job and went into private practice, but still finishing this case. I also heard she took the Skylar Meade case (Idaho inmate who broke out of prison and killed two people)
@MikePenceFly possible. I am filed in district court and a county atty is representative till September...so confusing
@@sincerelyspecial3386 Anne has or is starting private practice. Since she is one of few lawyers eligible to defend DP cases she will still contract with the state; I think they said 13 in entire state that can be first chair. They are changing so the direct financial burden is on the state, through the state, instead of the counties but I am not sure if that is all public defenders or just capital cases.
@@Paula-FunnyFarmshe is just fame hungry now. She sees an opportunity to make money.
@@coleengogerty3852What a terrible thing to say . It is more than likely that she has had a gut full of the prosecution lawyers who have been dodgy , disrespectful and totally uncooperative.
A fair trial has to take precedence over all other considerations.
Yes, please keep covering it! I am from ID and I am very invested! I love hearing your perspective on the case.
We waited 15 years for justice. Danyan Mangham murdered my stepson and another. He was captured within days but took 15 years in Miami Florida to finally see justice. Things need to change, not just for the victims family but for the accused. What about those that aren't guilty!! 15 years!!
Please cover all the motions for this case. Your breakdowns are succinct and educational. Thanks
Yes, I would love to have you break it down!
I finally made a live!! Always enjoy the content on this channel.
I personally do not think the police or prosecutors have handled this case well whatsoever, I believe there is far more than “a shred of doubt” regarding Bryan’s culpability (in the very least, not as a lone actor), and I firmly believe it requires far more transparency and a consideration of all the facts and evidence that seems to be either ignored, discarded, or dismissed, to the detriment of genuine justice for the victims and for the perpetrators
Please provide any and all Kohberger coverage, it’s the most complex, intriguing, and vital case in my opinion and I hope you’ll continue it until the end. Appreciate your efforts, nuance, professionalism, and insight
You’re drinking the Anne Taylor Koolaid!
@@terripetre8159 I have extensively researched this case, your dismissal is inexcusable and such a farce assuming any opposition or critique is due to being biased in favor of Anne or Bryan instead of what the evidence and dubious case treatment suggests
It’s awfully hard to say whether there will be reasonable doubt in a case where we haven’t actually seen most of the evidence.
@@PRETTINGTON there have been numerous court proceedings indicating reasonable doubt prior to the primary case hearing, keep up
@@dear_totheheartReasonable doubt always exists until the prosecutor eliminates it, and the prosecutor won't get a chance to do that before trial. Atm I'm predicting that I'll still have doubt at the end of this proceeding, but I don't think we know enough to be super confident (in either direction) right now.
Even if the families of the victims are not the primary consideration for change of venue (as some are insisting on this board), the fact remains that the presumption of a location is the county in question - and the burden is on Kohbeger to establish that he can't get a fair trial there.
Not only that, but from what I've read, the place to evaluate whether or not someone can get a fair trial, according to case law, is during the voir dire in that location. And you don't need an entire county to be unbiased. You just need 12 fair-minded jurors plus some alternates.
Also, in addition to impartiality, the defense argued on the basis of convenience for witnesses because Boise has an airport. Well they have 2 airports right there, so this is one more thing that the defense is absurdly arguing. In addition to what seems to be her own bias about the county in question..
She made this decision even before she hired this survey taker - and seemingly just to get the answer that she wanted, not to measure what was actually the case. And, allegedly, this survey taker even found the same results for the other locations under consideration.
I agree with the State - short of something astonishing being uncovered during a voir dire, I see no reason either, this guy can't face his peers in the community where he is alleged to have committed this horrendous crime - and as other defendants have to. And also - the State pointed out that, if they determine there's too much bias during the voir dire - they can always have jurors brought in from another county and sequestered in Moscow for the trial - which is going to be 3 months long.
What people also aren't getting here - this is the presumption - facing the community. And the families of the victims and the survivors are members of that community. Most of the witnesses around the circumstances of the immediate crimes are in that community too (police, neighbors, medical examiners, etc.) So, with a COV, you're actually inconveniencing the witnesses, quite the opposite of what the defense argued.
People should also consider the costs of the trial - which I would think additionally play into the presumption of having the trial held in the county in question. This trial in particular is already costing Latah County taxpayers in the millions, I read. If you move it hundreds of miles away to Boise, costs will grow considerably higher - and, without the "benefits" of any revenue coming back into the community that's paying for it.
This case is so challenging but I would appreciate your coverage, Peter. It helps to see thinga as they go rather than only relying on media coverage. Thank you in advance
Peter this case is so heartbreaking. I hope you have the time to break this down for all especially because of your grace and empathy. You’re the perfect person to bring a little reason and understanding for what will inevitably be a painful trial for so many. Thanks for all you do.
I feel so badly for all these families, including BK’s family members who have suffered. I don’t believe Bryan is the killer, too many unanswered questions, the lack of DNA in such a bloody crime scene in his vehicle, apt, nothing, as if it’s been staged or set up. When the trial begins then we should see some evidence, something to link him other than touch DNA that could have come from any one of the hundreds of police/detectives in that small area.
Hey Pete ✌🏼 YES PLEASE break down ANYTHING from the Idaho 4 (including the change of venue hearing on 8/29/24) Thank you 🙏🏼 Love watching you
A change of venue and a fair trial should outweigh anything. I think a change of venue is important. Victims families are just going to have to adjust, period!
I personally think they're trying to convict an innocent man. No hard evidence so far and shame on them for wanting just anybody convicted just for the sake of...
Innocent people plead NOT GUILTY. @@lonniekellyhawkins6493
That's pretty callous!?? Your daughter was brutally stabbed/slashed to death but just deal with this, period!! 😢
@@lonniekellyhawkins6493the case sounded more than solid with the arrest probable cause affidavit. The hearings this summer have provided a lot of context to that evidence that puts big question marks on a lot of it. And that’s just for the issues that required hearings! I’m sure the defense attorneys have even more. Even the judge seems to have hesitancies about the case. He’s said in one of these hearings “when this case goes to trial…IF this case goes to trial…”
I’ve been wondering where the status of this case stands. Been quiet. Definitely want to hear judge’s decision re change of venue. Thank you Peter.
Please continue to cover all activity related to this case.
No matter where the trial is, I'd be there.
We moved, but we flew from TX to PA for every hearing because we made the decision that every time he left the jail, he saw our faces.
I wonder if the states office helps with travel costs? Or maybe there's a non-profit that helps assist victims' families during trail. Especially in a situation where the victims were in college and their family could be out of state or hours away in another part of the state. Finances always put extra stress on family's after tragedy. It's something they shouldn't have to worry about.
@@amandamosteller1371hmmm, plus legal fees. I have heard some shade thrown on the fam in this case, because they negotiated for book, film rights (according to Howard Blume) but of course they need money, had to hire an attorney and keep him on retainer all this time plus I imagine it’s been kinda hard to keep up the 9-5 with all that has happened. So yeah, I can see why ppl have to raise $$$ if they want to see the trial all the way thru. Gofundme and so forth.
@@amandamosteller1371 Maybe they could reach out to short term rental spots that would be willing to offer a discount and they can raise funds to pay for it.
@@ToniTries what is your relation to the victims? Just wondering and good for you!
@ToniTries - And what if BK didn't do it?
thanks for staying on this.
I would definitely like the breakdown of the change of venue
My mom’s murder trial took 6 years to be tried.. and it wasn’t nearly as complicated as this. It’s definitely moving at a normal pace
Wow, my sympathies go out to you
I'm sorry you even had to go through such a thing. I agree about the length of time for this type of trial. The timing can't be predicted. Hearings get postponed. Things come up that have to be dealt with. Some cases are more complicated. Some areas are loaded down with more cases than others. There are too many variables to predict the length of time between the date of a crime and the outcome of a verdict. We just know that it takes time. Some cases take years for whatever reason.
I still don't think the guy killed all four students in such a short time.. Hopefully the prosecution has strong evidence to convince a jury that he in fact did this.
I feel bad for them, however beyond BKs presumption of innocence - I don't believe that he is responsible for committing these crimes. The more information that is coming out about BK (his innocence), and my questions about the suspicious activity regarding the surviving roommates and invited over friends/frats activity prior to 911 call..
Big ass cover up. No way he did it. Sorry for loss but all the facts and things lingering...not to mention the vidoes on those streests. The white bmw. Etc.
Please continue coverage on this case!
Imo a fair trial should be the first consideration in order to better avoid a case being reversed & possibly being retried. Best to do all possible to get it right the 1st time
not to mention possibly harming a factually innocent accused more than this needs to.
highly request the continued coverage of this case.
I still remember waking up to this news & feeling so disgusted. I was actually in a forensics class at the time too so lots of lectures I could tie back to this case. I really hope the victims & society get much due justice.
I feel very badly for the Families and Friends, and of course the kids who had their lives end in such a tragic way.
I’ve been following from the beginning, but I do have to say that there has to be a fair trial and I don’t see that happening in Latah County.
I absolutely do not trust Court TV!
Why not
@@jamesbuttery3862 I'm not CoachKarin but i can answer that one. Vinnie Pollitan was a Prosecutor and present a one sided view of everything he reports on. Most of his guests also reflect the same viewpoint.
@@chuckrafiki8649 not in my opinion, I don't think he has any views that's Karen Read was guilty, seems to report on Richard Allen case pretty independently.
In the Karen Read case he had that young guy Nick on, who believes she's 100% innocent, and then he had the older bald gentleman who always disagreed with Nick and thought Reed may have been guilty.
I see his guests argue all the time about cases. I don't see how he has guests that always push his point of view... He probably doesn't even choose the guests who come on.
I like Vinnie Politan. He seems to call it how he sees it
Me either! They use to be a consistent go-to channel until I realized how much misinformation and lies they tell. When you have to fact check everything they say, it is not worth putting that time in.
I cannot imagine the living nightmare, and their pain. I feel for them. I also want there to be justice delivered to the right perpetrator, I hope they have the right guy but at this stage my mind is open, nothing has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt yet.
Honestly, more than ever, I am behind Bryan Kohberger's rights to receive a fair trial. Much of that emotion is fueled by the bad behavior that the Goncalves family, Steve in particular, has shown throughout the early investigation and how inappropriately they've acted. They hired a lawyer, trying to twist the law's arm in handing over evidence they'd gather, because he felt his family was entitled to it. They WERE NOT. He criticized the investigators as doing nothing, and pressured them to release info they didn't want out there, for obvious reasons! He was critical of them not releasing the car info, bashing them for not trying hard enough to solve this case. Meanwhile, they were already tracking Kohberger and his father across country, and did not want that info all over the media because they did not want him alerted to the fact that they were trailing him. Goncalves has threatened to blow this whole case with his public nonsense, and I am beginning to believe they might be railroading Kohberger because they want him to pay. They don't care if it's THE right person, only that THIS person get convicted. So, I'm glad that Kohberger has a good attorney who is fighting for his rights because of the mob mentality that Goncalves is leading with his torch. And, to skywatchers everywhere, Kohberger's alibi makes perfect sense. To view nighttime events, with planets, comets, etc, the optimal time is in the wee hours of the morning, when there is the least amount of light interference in the skies. And the fact that he took pictures of the stars and the sky at that park? That is someone only the really dedicated astronomy nerds do. My friend is one of them.....he once slept in a South American desert to view the spectacular skies without giving a thought to the fact that rattlesnakes love to look for warm bodies and places to snuggle on a cold desert night. So, yes, his alibi makes perfect sense. That house was a 24/7 party place, with people coming and going and not even knowing who lived there. It's possible that Kohberger himself may have been there at some time, because we know he went to the pizza place they worked at. If he was trying to get to know them, it's very likely he could have wandered in at some point, which would explain evidence. So, people need to tread carefully here. This man is facing the death penalty, which means a fair trial is the most important factor, here. I wish the Goncalves' and their lawyer would shut up. Even the other families have distanced themselves from them and have shunned "joining" them in their very public mission.
I agree with everything you have said. There is something about the Goncalves parents even the elder sister.
But apart from the touch DNA on a sheath button there was no other DNA found of kohbergers. The only other DNA found was from 3 UNKNOW MAKES but LE didn't investigate it. Strange.
Yes I think you should break down the hearing and the last one when they talked about the venue change and survey.
Thank you so much Peter we need some justice for these kids
Yes explain this process
I'd love you to breakdown everything that occurs throughout this case
I completely understand the families wanting the venue to be close to them, I really do. But, there’s absolutely no way he gets a fair trial in Latah County. They will have no choice but to move the venue. The family has quite the following on Facebook. I’m sure their followers would have no problem contributing to a Go Fund Me or something similar so that they can stay wherever the venue ends up for 6-8 weeks.
This. 💯
This will be a very intriguing case to see what evidence comes to light
It's going to be amazing to see the lack of evidence and the amount of "experts" the prosecution uses to say "this means this because we say it does and if you don't follow our convoluted bs then you are stupid" and bk will be found guilty because people want a scape goat.
Just like the prosecution in the Murtaugh trial didn't make sense, and to any person remotely familiar with guns the prosecution testimony that short barrel shotguns aren't a thing and don't exist only shotguns with 4ft barrels like the one they seized but wasn't the murder weapon...... and the judge saying that the defense couldn't bring up the death threats the dead kid got from family members of the girl he killed in the drunken boating accident... as if revenge killings aren't a thing..... and that Murtaugh killed his wife and one son to somehow cover up the financial crimes he was being investigated for? As if a lawyer wouldn't know that just because your a victim in crime B doesn't make the investigation of crime A go away? Murtaugh was convicted because he was unlikable and people wanted him in jail, they didn't care if he killed his wife and kid they just wanted him in jail so ignored all the evidence that either Murtaugh couldn't have done it (he cell moving up to the house at the same time the phone found on his wife's body was moved) or that if he was involved he couldn't have done it alone (prosecution claims he did it 100% alone)
@@Tinmann_77 Zzzzzzz
Hey LYK, The Gfam was just on the interview room again. McDunuuh (phonetically cuz Im too lazy to look😊) is saying, the families deserve a local jury! The inmate does not matter! The only people that matter are the victims! What a statement, definitely deserves a watch. He opens up with it....❤
Well the victims are dead, so they don't care.
The victims family shouldn't have a say in where the case is being held because it's not their right to a fair trial that is being impacted it is the defendants right to a fair trial.
@@Tinmann_77 bingo
Something about the way that second sentence is structured, combined with the lack of quotes separating "The only people that matter are the victims!" from "What a statement..." makes it easy to overlook the fact that you are talking about someone else's opinion. It reads as if "The only people that matter are the victims!" is your opinion. I'm not 100% sure why,¹ but I think it would be more clear what you meant if you used quotes like so:
...again. McDunuuh (phonetically cuz Im too lazy to look😊) is saying "the families deserve a local jury! The inmate does not matter! The only people that matter are the victims!" What a statement...
Once again,a great video!
I feel for thousands of Victims who Wait for Justice in our system... but a presumption of innocence applies until All Evidence is presented to a Jury or judge. Change of Venue can possibly tighten and Quicken a subsequent trial-- without a certain appeal, if convicted. Our legal system is being challenged on the fly these days, with Bits of information and lots of assumptions streaming ahead of Courts in media. Also, apparently there's Plenty of habitually reckless and deplorably biased police work, sometimes with prosecutorial and judicial misconduct-- which actually Delays Justice for survivors as well. I can only imagine how they feel about Kohberger, but rushing this will only Delay Justice further, imho.
Exactly.
It doesn't matter to me if he is found guilty or innocent.
What I want to see is a fair justice system (something I haven't seen in 99% of the cases I've watched in the past 4 years). I'm sick of seeing the obviously corrupt system violate peoples rights and seeing people cheer because they got to punish someone.
Any time I have to work alongside anyone from my local sheriff's office I tell them they better be on their best behavior and not fuck around because if they fuck up ill be the first defense witness to discredit their work (I tell them this to their faces) because I recently watched their ineptitude and corruption try to convict someone for a murder that he didn't commit.
@@Tinmann_77 Now that cameras are in courtrooms and everywhere else, we can at least see the scales coming off. It IS a corrupt system, that has allowed some of these 'manuevers' to seemingly be 'normal' in our system.
As far as I'm concerned, once authorities involved have flagrantly violated a defendants rights, I wouldn't be able to convict, as a juror. I can't wait for some of these 'authorities' meet the Constitution again!
I heard they could get a jury from a neighboring county and bus the jury members to the courthouse in Lahtah county.
This was a horrific crime, and understandably the families want the perpetrator to be held responsible. But at this point, it has not been proven who committed the murders. Our feelings are not proof. The defendant deserves a just trial, and a change of venue seems prudent.
They don't care who the perpetrator is. They don't care about finding out who it actually was. All they care about is punishing someone, anyone, right now.
I think if it were my child, I would support a change of venue in order to get the cleanest case possible presented to an impartial jury. It might be harder in the short-term and during the trial process but, in the long-run, a potential conviction could be more solid because of it.
As long as they have 12 fair minded jurors, I don't see how the Defense would have a basis for appeal on this matter. They don't have a solid argument on this issue as of yet - and the burden of proof is on their end. The presumption for a location is Latah County.
There was 4 young adults murdered only 1 of said parents are moaning, those said parents are also the only ones taking every opportunity to have their face in the media they are also likely the reason why this trial needs to be moved because Steve goncalves spoke so much shit and put out so much false information that the general public ran with. There is something very deep that doesn't sit right with me either of them I understand wanting justice for your children but stfu and have some respect got the other family's that's also apart or the trial they talk and behave like it was only their child
@@ElevateYourExistence8979 What is wrong with some of you? Kaylee's parents aren't the reason there's so much publicity around this case. There's so much publicity because the crime was so horrific. All of the families grieve and have to find their own way through this terrible and you cannot possibly imagine pain. Stop judging these families and pray that something like this never happens to yours. And that this case is truly resolved by the end of next summer.
@tonis8131 the amount of false information that steve said is the reason why so many rumours where flying about actually, because nobody else has spike about this case. Just him
@@ElevateYourExistence8979 I've never heard Steve give out false information. That's other people on the internet starting stories. I think Steve knows that the system doesn't always work the way it should, and that you have to fight to make sure that it does, and this is his way of fighting for their little girl who didn't otherwise have a chance and making sure that justice is served to the extent that it ever can be. Heartbreaking. He's just a father who loves his daughter.
Im mixed on if the trail should be moved. But i have to say, I have questions . I don't understand how it took so long for police to be called. I don't understand the other 2 girls not thinking anything was wrong. And that girl that supposedly saw him ... wth, strange guy coming from a roommates room, and you don't go asking questions?? That doesn't make sense to me.
They were texting during the event. That's how they got the time of the crime, which doesn't add to the time the car was seen
@@chiquitabanana89768
You're making things up.
They were highly intoxicated so...... wise decisions not often made in those situations.
@@bonnienelson7373if they were so intoxicated why would the they take her statement seriously?
Yes! I had same questions. But I had intruder in my house (like I heard outside) but didn’t click together till next morning (was late night). I saw damage and then clicked that what I heard was actually somebody in my property. Even porch lights came on but they do normally when cat goes by. My first thought was somebody was running down the street
Thank you Peter, for continuing to cover this case.
As a Mom, my heart goes out to all of the families and friends of Kaylee, Maddy, Zana, and Ethan. I'll be honest, I don't know if I could remain as strong as they have. It is incredible and beautiful to see their strength everytime they speak.
No parent should ever have to bury their child. These kids did not deserve this. It's just so heartbreaking. I truly hope that justice is served.
Fly high Kaylee 🕊 Madison 🕊 Ethan 🕊 Zana 🕊
feds dont want to disclose how they got him
The feds also don't like talking about ruby ridge or Waco
I'd love a change of venue video Peter! Thanks for all you do
Thanks for gifting a membership 👍🙂
thank you Peter
Did he say we are all hoping for a conviction? I think he is innocent
I do too! I'm not sure how they can just push for a conviction? What if BK is innocent? Looks like he is to me. There must be some kind of monetary gain that goes along with a conviction. Imo
I think it sounds ludicrous for anyone to say there is no evidence. And we don’t even know all of the evidence.
@@alicencosgrove5533
Exactly 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 there’s a gag order so none of us even know a third of what the state has.
@@alicencosgrove5533but what we do know is that NO dna was found in his house, the vehicle he apparently drove away from had no dna present (but apparently he committed 4 close up brutal murders) he was not and has never been pinged anywhere near the house and the only dna that they have said they have is trace DNA on the button. Not even on the whole sheath.
RUclips channel J.Embree does a great job with the Idaho case. IMO
The couple times I watched that channel, seems like all they're doing is trying to defend Kohberger, when it appears the state has solid evidence of his guilt
Please could you tell me what solid evidence they have @@carlamartinez4728
These are the same people who could'nt be inconvenienced with driving to Moscow after a relative called and told them their daughter wasn't alive anymore--per their many interviews.
Exactly. Their cinstant complaints are just to manipulate the public and judge. They couldn’t even go to Moscow when they received the news. Their inconvenience is irrelevant to the defendant’s constitutional rights.
Yesssss. I don't know why people are not seeing through the goncalves fake persona. Something about these two just doesn't sit right with me.
🙋♀ Thank you, Peter, for another informative episode. I don’t know how to put this where it doesn’t come across sounding harsh or cruel, but when it comes to change of venue, first and foremost should be the rights of the accused to get a fair trial.
No question, the opinion of family is important, and how it will cause hardship with traveling etc., however it’s a *much smaller* consideration compared to the rights of the accused. Based on your prior videos, and others I’ve heard, explaining the pros and cons of leaving it local, I’m not sure I’ve been convinced that he could *not* get a fair trial there with the jury pool available. All concerns could be worked out fairly easily during actual jury selection.
Incredibly thoughtful and heartbreaking for these parents. The commentary and questions by Vinnie I find frustrating and I so respect this channel with presumed innocence - asking about victim impact etc etc like this trial is just a mere hoop to get thru I just don’t like. I feel these parents and families need to be close but was not sure are all the parents effected by which county ?
I am so appreciative of gavel to gavel coverage but always get concerned w high profile cases where a verdict seems to precede a trial
Do not blame or judge these parents in any way - just to be absolutely clear their voices are free to speak however they choose.
I believe the survey the defense did stated 81% found him guilty in Latah county per the survey!
PETER PLEASE COVER PRESTON LORD CASE
Please cover every aspect of this case.
Latah county did everything right? A blind and deaf person knows that a leap
Thanks Peter great coverage as ever
I feel for these families but I don't think they have the right guy
Amen
With the information that we do have right now. You are right. It will be Intersting to see what else comes out in the trial. But honestly I believe it was someone from LE or a family member.
Cover this case for sure ! This case is the one I came across your channel
Same!
Right to a fair trial trumps all unfortunately
Great as always
I hope they are getting therapy and trying to heal as they go along the process of the trial as well. A verdict is what everyone wants with the person who did it, but it doesn’t bring them back. It’s so heartbreaking 💔 😢
Can’t the families have zoom feeds if they can’t be there for any reason?
I have empathy for the victims, but BK hasn’t been convicted and they already wrote victim impact statements?! BK isn’t going to get a fair trial.
They never cared about making sure the murderer was found. They only care about punishing someone for the pain they are feeling.
Of course it's a cover up. They know BK didn't do it. They know exactly who done it and why the LE plus the families. If u have noticed only the family with the drug charges are moving their mouths.. there is a huge cover up in this case and as brutal as the 4 murders were. Whoever did this is capable of doing more and they probably know LE cannot protect them.
I would love coverage of the motion for change of venue! I didn’t know it was out yet