kamvajnr dj mhluzi The difference is in black only towns any race can live there. You can’t live in Orania even if you are a rich, well known black person, with no criminal record. You can’t go there if you are Asian or mixed-race either. In a country which is supposed to be majority black. Never anywhere in Europe, would you ever get anything like this. That’s why, a lot of people have issues with it.
They are communities that were allocated to the blacks during the apartheid regime, and don't segregate nor chase anyone of any race, color, gender, unlike this video evidence provided.
Afrikaaneers : "we are bible believing Christians " Bible : "every one shall go back to their own land and the Earth shall be at rest (peace). It's time for you to go! Run heathen ruuuun.
@@Testimony4644 Dear Mr. Moses, I am an Afrikaner American. I do not live in South Africa. Most of us Afrikaners (and Americans) do not follow the Bible, do not obey Jesus, and are headed for Hell.
@@TheFamousMockingbird Exactly. I also believe that they want to play the victims and that is why they removed Mandela. Plus if you don't teach history it can repeat itself and who knows.. Maybe that is what they want.
If the whites of Africa are murdered nobody says anything, if they kill blacks in eeeuu it is published in all the news and international organizations, Hypocrites.
@jon cullen the white genocide myth is a tired lie being pushed out by white supremacists deflecting from their own races history of genocide against non white people. Tell me the statistics of black on white killings since the end of apartheid. There is a huge security issue in SA totally mishandled by the ANC but using the word genocide in this way is disingenuous and makes a mockery of the term. By the way I used to live in London and I used to go to Brixton. In recent years it's been taking over by white hipsters. Now that is what I call gentrification :-)
@@mrbobbilly I was simply stating a historic fact. I like accurate history. Afrikaans is not 100% Dutch, and Dutch is most certainly not Afrikaans. They made a mistake. As an Afrikaner, I find their ignorance offensive. If I said that when the Pilgrims came to America, they spoke modern American English, everyone would think I'm stupid. If I protested and said, "Well, modern American English comes from the British English of a few hundred years ago," I would not have corrected my initial error. It just shows how little effort they put into this.
@@lithiumvids9448 Even words like piesang and baie? Yes; you can understand much Afrikaans. My point was just that the video made a factual mistake by saying that the first Dutch settlers spoke Afrikaans, as it was only developed later. I can see that Afrikaans could have been classified as a Dutch dialect. A very dumbed down version of Dutch. But there are different definitions of what is classified as a language or just a dialect. The old saying goes, "A language is a dialect with an army and a navy." Afrikaans had both and now has neither. Om eerlik te wees, my volk is te lui om ons taal reg te praat. Hulle meng baie Engelse woorde in. Plus baie vuil vloekwoorde. Hulle kannie die woorde reg spel nie al word byna alles geskryf presies soos dit klink. Die eindresultaat is 'n afgewaterde gemors. Wat moet mens met so volk maak? Net die Here sal weet.
Gospel Films Afrikaans ziet er.......interessant uit ja, en het is volgens mij ook een dialect, want plat Limburgs is ook geen taal terwijl normale Nederlanders dat helemaal niet kunnen verstaan.
They really think the original people are the problem. They did that to the Australian aborigines and native Americans and they still see nothing wrong.
Imagine living in a country with South Africa’s history of racism and apartheid but choosing to avoid teaching that part of history to create your own narrative..These are delusions of ppl trying to cling on to racist & outdated practices
@Communism Is Judaism the wealth distribution is shocking if you see the stats, inequality is way too big of course they will hate the top chain which is white people there. If you think from the south african perspective its understandable but i dont know which one is right or wrong
As a black South African, I've slept over at a motel in this place. The hospitality and service I received(and overall experience) was amazing! These Afrikaners treated me with absolute respect and the service was impeccable. My brother and parents(who came with me) also admitted that they feel safer in the area, we accidentally left our car unlocked outside with the windows rolled down to keep it cool. Nobody touched our car during the night. If this was PTA or JHB, the car would've been stolen. I don't know what these guys are saying, but they are talking k*k. I wish the current SA government could be as competent as those leading Orania. Thanks Afrikaners, once again leading by example again.
@@Murchad99 well according to these white guys on RUclips they seem to believe they can’t have all white towns for some reason. That affirmative action or blacks are holding them back from achieving their all white haven. Apparently somebody made it illegal because that’s all they complain about on YT day in and day out.
@@alejandrosotomartin9720 Lol I think you missed the point Reread your comment and consider mine You cant complain about being left alone when your living in the hunting grounds of another people Dutch migrated there and want to be " left alone" after taking land more then once btw once from San Then again from bantu in the 18-1900s
pale blue dot maybe the bantu shouldve had a more strict immigration policy. Take a tip from Steve Biko dude. For real. Study Steve Biko, Malcom X, and Marcus Garvey. Not all Civil Rights leaders agreed with WEB Du Bois and MLK jr. Check out Booker T Washington as well. There is an entire different side to Integration, called Separation. It is different than Segregation
Balla 1527 if they do the same things in a place like US, UK, italy, etc they start playing victim card and cry for racism.....black life matter, etc....they even burn shop, protesting in the street, etc
I think the concern is in so much whether they live alone or not. It's that places like these will go to means like physical intimidation/blocking people who are different. For example a black guy with money and equal opportunity to buy land isnt allowed in by no virtue other than, we dont want him here... Its tribalism and it has no place in a free society.
@Dwayne Neal they’re not, only the Khoisan are. Then came the Dutch and after that the Bantu. I really hope the Dutch and Bantu give back the land to the Khoisan
@@TheZombie001 you need to check your thoughts and beliefs my guy. you are suggesting something that fits into your narrative, to me it seems like you read a totally different comment
@Hopper33 nah South Africa should send them back, integrate or leave. Imagine if everyone started living after their ethnicity or history and language?
@@kml7259 South Africa has failed to integrate and has become a country run by Black communists who seek revenge, not equality. Living seperately away from being persecuted and discriminated against for being white is the best they can do under the circumstances.
@@calvinpurdy2668 i'm still yet to meet an Afrikaner South African that is willing to admit that their true origin is Dutch... somehow they all believe that they originated here in africa 😮
@@mpumentshangase4257 They might well have been born in Africa, as was I, but their ancestors most likely came from the Netherlands. My ancestors are from Germany and America.
@@Illtechnica to be used as a tool against men that did create and are maintaining the nation is not contributions it is the opposite of it be it in SA ,USA or Sweden ,France ....
Irony is "Afrikaner" is literally African... I just don't understand why people who despise African Natives would name their whole culture and community after the thing they despise.
@@TheDaeroner No, not every Afrikaner despises black Africans. It's a minority. Sure , you find racism, but that's something in all communities. By the way, the Dutch, and other language groups as well, married black and slave women here at the Cape. So most white people here have black African in their ancestry as well. Some will deny this, but many not.
Thanks for saying that. I’ve heard that from many South Africans including people that have left Because of the crime. What a shame. South Africa was better off under apartheid ?!
@@yonniiisan well what a SHAME that your ancestors was weak.. just the rule of nature doing it’s work. My country was colonized and ruled for 300 years by Spaniards, but I am grateful they did because they bought to us development and culture, I couldn’t pretend to care for people I don’t even know that the Spaniards killed/oppressed just because they were my ancestral people. yet you don’t see us b*tching about it because we aren’t crybabies and victim olympians, we have actual life problems unlike the whiny privileged west and some of the salty victim olympians in Africa who couldn’t move past what the white people did to their ancestors even after hundreds of years, we have self identity(unlike others that insists being black is their most important possession/trait) we just keep moving forward and be better, there is no use, point or justification delving in your weakling ancestor’s failures when things happened by nature’s law, such is the way the world have always worked and would always work till the end of times, maybe it’s not them feeling superior to you but it is you who feel inferior to them?
I'm coloured and I don't see what's wrong with white people choosing to live isolated. This is a free Country. Even they have freedom of choice. Respect their right to live away from blacks. WELL DONE ...
I agree, but they have no official racial policy in Orania. Maybe they are all secretly racist, but I am white and both my parents are Afrikaans but would not be eligible to live in Orania because I'm not an Afrikaner Calvanist. Freedom of association is very important because if nobody wants to associate with a person or group, that person or group is clearly the problem. If the state forcing people to associate actually enables bad behavior because they are preventing the social consequences of people's actions.
@@nick2aim431 there reason there is only african free communities in Europe because most Europeans cant integrate with different colours and races unless for sport or work reasons. South Africa is a land where you have to integrate and respect ever race or leave.
As soon as the state school system stops leaving out the fact that Bantus only arrived in South Africa 100 years before the Dutch did from history text books. Also the fact that the Bantus almost completely wiped out the Khoisan (the native South Africans).
@@khemistrycreators4845 You mean the truth that black South Africans don't like being brought up? Are you going to deny that the Khoisan exist and their people were almost driven to extinction by the Bantu invasions?
@@aaronconlon3880 The Khoisan are my people (BOTH Indigenous AFRICANS) It was European settlers (COLONIALISM) that nearly drove them to extinction, fact.
@@eddycarpenter8989 - Coz it’s thriving. While ANC territory is disintergrating. Theft and corruption everywhere. Racism between Bantoes, San, Koi and Zulus. Discrimination against African foreigners leading up to blatant racist murders. This ‘European culture’ place is blossoming. ANC controlled media are not going to cover this. It might wake the black south African up. I am Dutch and have known about this place for decennia. Betsie Verwoerd lived here and was one of the establishers.
@@LuckyRufey Afrikaans is actually slang and many languages mixed together. Referred to sometimes as kitchen Dutch. Probably the best expressive language of all time.
@@TheSilmarallion Afrikaans is considered a slave language, as the slaves with the masters created a language that mixed with others. This created Afrikaans. Many of them don’t even know this about their history. Thank god I’m English.
Kind of confused about the point they were trying to make with comparing the national daily murder-rate with a couple of people moving to a small town.
@@thepsychicpeach8425 the economy was better because the goverment focused on the economy not corruption and hand outs. The economy can be even better without apartheid of we had the goverment to lead us.
You’ll come up with valid points 💯 especially the part where they won’t allow black people to enter, but also they still exercising their right not to let other people enter their city. in this case I would say their city is ‘their property’ and they are entitled to decide who enters and who doesn’t. Yes it is a very strange exercise but in my opinion it doesn’t interfere with lives of other South Africans. It is a debatable issue given the history of SA!
I Wonder what would happen if Chinese immigrants start moving to Australia and start telling the native Australians that they don’t want them in there communities and just want to live alone? pretty sure that would’t go well.
In the USA where I live there are so many ethnic enclaves of Orthodox Jews, Chinese ("Chinatowns"), Somalis, Vietnamese, Koreans ("Koreatowns"), African Americans (Harlem) etc etc where the vast majority of inhabitants belong to one group. The most extreme example would be the colonies of Amish and Hutterites, who are 100% of white European descent, interact very little with the outside society and are pretty much closed to outsiders. Is this racism or ethnocentrism?
No I understand those types of towns like China town etc, with this type of place like Oriana, they bought a piece of land and they don't fall under the jurisdiction of South African government, they have their own government and they rule themselves and they might even have their own president, they broke away from the South African government they are totally autonomous. Whereas China town and China is still under American rule. Yes it is racism because they don't want to be ruled by a black government, and they believe that South African government want to do an die out their Afrikaans culture so it's both ethnocentrism and racism.
@@sekoaib"They don't fall under the jurisdiction of South African government." Do you have a source for this? Orania has its own municipal administration and doesn't fall any other LOCAL administration. And like others you are just repeating what the narrator of the France 24 program is saying in that "they don't want to be ruled by a black government" or wish to return to the old days of apartheid.
They dont have to but they shouldnt avoid it on basis of race For example if you think whites should be able to kick them out of thier towns do you then agree blacks should be able to kick them out of thier country
@Elvis Ameb i was asking a question of thr original post And yes we are trying to intagrate those areas Ironically this benifites both races. Whites from mixed schools tend to be beter free thinkers as well
@Elvis Ameb its not quite forcing Its promoting. Forcing only happens when there is a severe imbalence do to a societal standard Ie if indians were forced to live in the cities but are trying to move out While i agree you dont force it you do make it illegal to prevent it as it natural occurs Otherwise you end up with very tribal people
@Elvis Ameb Ya but tribalism is the opposite of what you want for a nation its weak divisive bad for evolution overall and for each group And bad for knowledge Again im not for letting people live i where they want But i am against preventing others from living somewhere on the basis of race
@@eugenemoyo2765 well, whatever you or I think of them, and I think they are verkrampt, Verwoerdian, it is also their land. They were born here. And there only 1500 of them, after 25 yrs. ! Let them live there. I would not want to live there.
Alot of white people get killed and raped every week there beacause of racism. Without white people owning farms there africans would have no food at all. Just search for Jaak Madison he went there with EU commisoners.
@@jackwoods535 true i'm a Zulu from KZN and i don't see a problem with it and claiming land is ridiculous politiceans want to get money by selling that land 😂🤦♂ really dumb and yeah we have some white people in our community.
Yeah, I mean their not hurting anybody. Forcing unwilling integration isn't really any different then forcing unwilling segregation. As long as there isn't any laws on the cities books banning people for their race I see zero issue here.
As long as they're not hurting anyone that's fine by me... But if they're being rude to Africans then Africans are not going to take that as well as you think
@@yunarukami7943 As long as people can publicly call for the death of my genetic minority, I'll be biased against them. As long as I'm considered an unemployable I'll be biased. As long as charity is Denied to my minority group by law I'll be biased. My family worked and died here for 300 years, a few were even slaves, yet I'm told to go back to Europe?? I'm not biased, I'm bitter.
Wow your statement says alot about you and your views. May God open your heart and mind. We all came from Adam and eve remember that . Don't let political views and people control your heart you control your heart there isn't a race think they made that to always have control be smart and Just and fear God for there will be a day of judgment and God will Ask everyone what they did in life and how they lived.
Roxanne...Massacre? You mean building houses, churches and schools for them? You mean the millions of rands given to their tribes every year for doing nothing is now a massacre? You must have had a leftist education...
Correction. Afrikaans is not the tongue of the first dutch settlers. It was in fact first spoken by the workers on the dutch farms and became known as kitchen dutch. If you are going to report news, then know your facts.
You forgot to mention the Khoi and San influence and origins of Afrikaans as they were the ones who created the stable pidgin that could be used between the settlers and the indigenous peoples. The African influence was later removed to try and present Afrikaans as a "pure" and white language. The Afrikaans movement is currently trying to address this.
How did you ever come up with that one ? Especially, with all of the inequality that America stands for.. You have apparently misspoke. But, I will gladly accommodate in enlightening your indubious ignorance. "It is the aire of White Supremacy, that is running, how it has always been ran." What, if I may ask, is dominated and is running rampant, by the Black Community, other than crime ? We , against our own will, built the foundation, from which others merely profited. And what you witness today, here in America, is only a continuum of a process that was instigated, long before you or I came into existence. We, like everyone else, are only part of an evolutionary dynamic. Part of a trajectory of misfortune for some and most certainly, a benefit for others. If you look deep into your history and you are with a moral compass, you should be ashamed. On the other hand, if that is not the sentiment felt, "GOD have mercy, on your soul."
Hopefully their choice to move into this town has nothing to do with safety reasons. No matter how South Africa handles the situation, violence against anyone based on race should absolutely not be tolerated.
When apatheid was raging and south Africans were massacred, where were you? Now you are saying no one should incite violence against the whites. Is the land for them? KILL THE BOER AND CLEAR SOUTH AFRICA OF IMPERIALISTS
@Tapiwa Mubvumbi You shut up. If the beloved Mandela was still alive he would have a freakin heart attack and die again. I'm not for Apartheid, infact I hate and despise racism. But sadly the black government has been raping SA for many years now, you can't blame this on Apartheid anymore. Look at all the corruption, look at all the riots, look at all the deaths and then besides that implementing a BBE system for black empowerment to keep racism alive. This country that I live is a joke, we take jobs away from our people allowing foreigners from African countries to freely March in. We are giving the Chinese a massive hold and look even our railway has come to a freeze. So with all due respect, you shut up!
@@ike7933 They are not native to that country, so who do you think they stole from? Obviously the african natives. Same as what happend with the native Americans in the us.
@@jasonpatel6562 again, because you leftists can't seem to understand... There were no native tribes in South Africa when the Dutch settled. After a presence was established by the Dutch, the Zulu tribe (and a few other taken over by the Zulu) pushed south to try and take over but failed. The Dutch settled on uninhabited lands... Unless you think all of Africa is only for "Africans". But let's not go down that road.
I don't support the racism but Orania is an inspiration to all communities in South Africa. It is clear that the ANC has failed to run the country, instead of looking for false hope, communities in South Africa should focus on being self sufficient independent from government.. communities should run their own schools, hospitals and start their own businesses to create jobs... it's a step for reviving the country.. thank you Orania... your economic model is the only way to save South Africa from the ANC
Racism is when you hate someone with another skin color. They never said they hated black peoples (matter of fact in the comments black peoples said they were treated nicely there), they just want to live together, people sharing the same values and cultures.
Orania is only soo rich because of its “racism” The people create the nation and when you have a town of ethnic Dutch Afrikaaners then the town will have similar crime rates to Netherlands and Europe.
It's a place of refuge, and they don't want Apartheid back. They didn't steal land from poor natives. There were almost no blacks when the Dutch arrive.
@Elvis Ameb Unfortunaly, the Black ethnic division is more divided than the european descendants. They mantained their tribal division while discussing against arabs and whites about afrikanerdom.
@Rory Addison No, Mandela would absolutely be in the state-mandated textbook. The kids would still get to learn about Mandela, as they should... I like that the school wants them to form their own opinions and doesn’t indoctrinate them with racist views
@@coyotelong4349 I mean teaching two curriculums and letting the kids ”figure it out themselves” is ripe for teaching all kids of radical views. I have no idea what the towns own curriculum or atmosphere is so the following is just an example: If you live in a town that is only for people who believe the earth is flat and provide one book that tells the truth and another that explains why the earth is flat. The children are told by their parents that the earth is flat and this is the common belief of the town. Do you think the child will believe that the earth is round or flat? I would say that the kid would believe the lie and ignore the book that tells the truth. Yes they were given both the truth and the lie but societal norms and the views of the people around you definetly impact what you choose to believe. Especially when you are young.
@@hannes4045 There's a diffenrence between unofficially not allowed and officially not allowed. I bet there are areas in SA where whites are unoficially not allowed to go... because if they do the get shot on the spot with no questions asked. With so many murders on white farmers each day it wouldn't surprise me if such "only black"areas existed as well.
@@miljomuppen2790 This has nothing to do with the farm murders. Never have I seen a town of black people or heard of one that will kill and/or beat up white people just for being white. Individuals, yes but not a bloody town.
I'm Somali living in SA. I don't know why many black south Africans like the guys interviewed in this clip have a problem with a group of white south Africans making their own town?! Aren't y'all happy by yourselves?!
Will u approve if a group of South africans go to Somalia and build a little south africa within your land with own flag and currency. Restricting u to even come near that town! 😎
Pretty rich France educating us about colonialism, they’ve left Europe a mess! Plenty of racism towards whites now in all these countries an the world! Look at Rhodesia & look at SA. Plenty of time to fix their countries but they never did. Look in the mirror folks and try bring people together rather than Further separating and dividing.
It is not about not letting the past go. It is living in a place where things work. We need more enclaves like this. The government worries about these people doing something for themselves, instead of looking at the country falling apart under their leadership. The mentality of i want what you have, I do not want to do it myself.
What was racist about the town? They just don’t want to give land that they previously owned without compensation. The government has to give compensation because you don’t just take land from people without proper agreements or else you will have trouble. That is what probably got them in problem in the first place. Taking land that other people already lived on and felt it was their home.
Sure not all land In Europe is inhabited by population/humans .. (there is free land between cities in any country) so those area in south Africa 1million percent belonged to those black native ppl .. cus eventually they'll get populated and expanded to different sides of their lands Just like those free(non cultivated or inhibited) lands are literally found everywhere in every country
@@dsaasd-bc3bg Funny how you outnumber Whites 15:1- same ratio throughout last 350 years - no genocide happened. Now pull out the stats of White murder victims by Bl-a-cks and do the comparison.
@@adrianjeffrey2897 that only happens in big, multicultural, metropolitan areas where no one knows each other and can only relate based on superficial secular ideologies like being anti-racist.
@@adrianjeffrey2897 interesting that you went to "pedo" right away. Some projection perhaps? Anyway youngest age of consent is actually in Africa but it's not in that town or with people who look like that👀,so......
@@gobimurugesan2411 a lie ---yet you keep repeating it your population in SA did grow from 3 millions to 50 in under european rule most of the most fertile land is in your hands and in the hands of your government ,the problem is you want white land ,only to destroy it
@@gobimurugesan2411 " last time I checked " you didn't do anything ,you did think and say what is being told to you they own 23.6% of rural land and 11.4% of land in towns and cities majority of land is owned by the state but in that land (that is in many cases more fertile ) there is nothing to loot and there is nothing to take from european men that created the nation west africans are dismantling
@@gobimurugesan2411 and btw because that people did feed you your population did grow from 3 millions to 50 and you want now ,based on that their property what we see in SA will repeat itself until people learn some things
@Roro ro Except that today in France you are as good as you are French on their terms. Even the slightest sign of deviation gets you set apart and treated as second class citizen.
You mean, the Nelson Mandela who was part of a terrorist organization that killed both whites and blacks, or the Nelson Mandela on t-shirts in America?
Because the minority stole and received all the resources in the previous regime. The minority has the majority of the countries resources. You know this. Stop acting like it is coming from nowhere. You know how the Apartheid government on,y looked after white South Africans and stole all the resources so that there is nothing for the black majority.
It should be EQUAL rights. Nobody has more right than another human being. If we promote minority or majority rights, we are promoting discrimination or reverse discrimination. Everybody should be equal and that is it. That doesn't mean equal wealth like the communist. More of equal opportunity and rights as it should.
G R So you are interrupting someone's day to announce, not your lack of an opinion necessarily, but your unwillingness to share it. If you had none, you might as well have stayed silent, unless you meant to advertise your humility and objectivity. You may have forgotten what you wrote six months ago, but it might be relevant to me now, as my curiosity has been piqued. Sorry if I don't find your statement 100 percent convincing.
@@jesusislordsavior6343 Some people try to virtue signal their own neutrality/centrism/cowardice. Strange times to live in when people think they're smart just because they don't take sides because they're ignorant or spineless.
In fairness, they don’t strike me as people who want to mix with anyone. That is to say, outside of their community. We have communities like this in the states, it doesn’t necessarily make them racist. For example the Dutch Mennonites is a bit similar. They’re not known to be racist.
They were never justified in colonizing South Africa. It boggles my mind that they think their “heritage” of hate should be preserved at all. Giving black South African back land that was stolen is not wrong, no matter how much it disadvantages those who illegally took possession and profited from it. It’s interesting to see the mixed race woman identifying with the white Dutchmen.
Nonsense. The khoi khoi are the indigenous population and they gave the Boers permission to settle. They then moved inland to unoccupied land. Do you where the Bantus came from? Central Africa, that's where. They migrated to south Africa too. What about the Zulu leader dignane and why he lost land? The boers agreed a treaty with him to get his livestock in return for allowing them to settle on land. After the Boers got his cattle back the Zulus violated the treaty and slaughtered the Boers. Enraged the Boers quickly took their revenge by defeating the Zulus at blood river and annexing the land as a punishment. They were not the innocent victims of white aggression.
@@Sweet-Rat-Milk yeah and every American should go back to Europe,every African American to Africa,Every Brazilian back to Portugal,every Mexican Spanish to Spain lol
Its a town of 2000 people. Are you really comparing it to a country thats majority poor with selfish leaders who steal!? You probably think the old government was more competent too, when they only had to govern the minority. Its not amazing, just small
Some time ago my wife and I visited Orania to discuss strawbale house construction with an architect resident there. Although we speak English we were welcomed with open arms and found it to be, safe, crime free and above all meticulously maintained and litter free. The people we spoke to just got on with what they were doing and were hard working and enterprising. If I raised the subject of politics, the conversation was tactfully steered away from the subject. White people are now the victims of a new apartheid in SA. It is called Black Economic Empowerment and Transformation and targets whites. Curiously, it has resulted in poor economic growth and soaring unemployment among black people- in short the exact opposite of what it is intended to achieve. Good on the people of Orania.
Nope. It was a CODESSA negotiated settlements. And you can't say it targets whites because white own the economy of South Africa, in all forms you can think of. And this is because they were empowered. As a black person I'm not benefitting from all those things, majority we get our way through our experience and credentials. What you are talking about is only those who carry membership cards of the ruling party. The ruling party which is in place to protect capital interest. First negotiations for this country was between Anc elites and business elites. They made deals before the main negotiations. But we shouldn't call out black economic empowerment, which was largely driven by capital, as if there wasn't English Empowerment and later followed by Afrikaner Empowerment when they took one. Thinking was right everybody deserved to be empowered. English oppressed both blacks and Afrikaners put them in concentration camps. Later Afrikaner oppressed the blacks. After oppression every society comes our poor, disempowered and uneducated. It's a pity the BEE one is a scam. Made a few billionaires, somehow close to Anc and left out everybody else.
No that's not the problem; Its South Africa's confusing trade policy that I would think the post-apartheid government didn't touch and its hard to Invest in South Africa because of opaque regulations, not poor infrastructure. I wouldn't be surprised if the top brass of the govt. are getting filthy rich off Investing regulation free.
So you guys were accepted because you were white? Because I thought you had to be Afrikaner to be accepted there😂real racist of them but nothing new..BEE doesn't only target white people it targets the minority. In reality Coloureds and Indians aren't really considered Black in this country.
Nah the statistics don’t support this claim. The last time i checked there are over 5.6million europeans settlers in Africa as compared to 4.5 million africans in Europe ironically. Would never have bumped into this piece of info if i didn’t research on this subject. Again note that the africans in Europe never call it ‘HOME’. Big difference imo
@@nickyapenahier9214 LOL That's a lie. Africans in Europe most certainly do call it home, and become offended when told they are not (Insert whichever European nationality here) and start hollering yes they are.
What is not being said is that the founder of this town Carel Boshoff was a white Afrikaner and also a Protestant minister. He lived among black people when it was actually against the law, as a missionary. After many years he came to the conclusion that the two races will never mix . So he decided to start his own town. First he looked in the Northern Transvaal but decided that the land is too fertile and will attract a lot of unwelcome attention. So he bought the area which today is named Orania. It is a dry arid area that nobody really wanted. Long story short, that area is now worth multiples of what they paid for it ,highly productive, standing on its own two feet, safe and harmonious ,not expecting a handout from anyone. Just one wish and that is to be left alone. Off course, the current government can't let that go. It is just too embarrassing to them because they are getting shown up, again.
Then they must go back to where they came from! You can’t live in Africa and complain about living with Africans. 🙄if this cult leader was soooooo into peaceful living he would have taught truth not lies.
@@rea4177 There are no blacks living in Europe that were brought against their will. Blacks are sailing across the Mediterranean everyday to get into Europe as we speak !
@Ibo Zambotnik west africans came to that region 1000 years ago and after ending the natives they created infrastructure to sell own folks european men did take zimbabwe 1000 years ago and in less than 100 years they created the breadbasket of africa if you did know history you would know such things
@Ibo Zambotnik son ,west africans have been made 13 000 years ago more than 2 000 years ago they did take what s today uganda in that 2 000 years the only thing they did develop was trade...they did trade girls from congo to arabs buganda was one of the last territories to be colonised from europeans the economy did not change in that 2 000 years and they are even today angry that english people did force them to work the land is all respect for asselar man and his descendants you are not more native in that region than you are in france and for who was better to the land ,descendants of asselar man or europeans a small observation of all of the european countries(including France) that you are "enriching " in the same way you did "enrich "SA should be enough to see that
May be helpful to point out that the entire area is actually privately owned. They basically built a town on a farm. So on privately owned property do people not have the right to allow whom they please access or is that not a thing in your country.
No one invited them to come to any part of Africa. They need to be removed and never allowed to return. Africans can't go to Europe and claim land. It sickens me that they were compensated at all after what their ancestors did.
Im sure you would think so. These racist whites havr the odacity to come to south Africa and segregate land for themselves. They are lucky the black people are ok with them being there 😒
No. They need to be sent back to Europe. When blacks tried to do this in Tulsa, a frenzied white mob descended upon them and murdered all of them in cold blood.
@Daniel Norberto you would think that after 400 years they have a right to be there. Europe wont take them or let them move back even if they wanted to and many would if they were given the opportunity. They have no other home or place to go, it's their place of birth for centuries.
@Daniel Norberto so does that philosophy apply to and for other parts of the world and ethnicities too where people migrated to like Australia, north America, south America, middle east, Asia, Russia etc. or only to these people?
@@johnnydebeer9409 The problem is not them being there, it is their beliefs and their system. Do you think that there is a city in Germany filled with people that still follow Hitler's plans and are getting away with it?
The trouble is that redistribution of land programmes simply doesnt work. Zimbabwe demonstrated that when prosperous farms were suddenly given away to people who had absolutely zero idea about running such large farms. Many white farm owners returned later to discover that the crops they left behind had been allowed to rot in the ground, machinery had not been maintained so no longer worked, dairy cattle had largely all been slaughtered for food and property had been left to rack and ruin. Black africans are subsistence farmers and sadly if farms are simply given to them from the whites then South Africa will end up a third world nation like so many others. Where the West see TV footage of starving children. South Africa and Zimbabwe are two examples of countries that were once successful and prosperous but given over to the inexperienced africans results in them going to from bread baskets to dust bowls.
They have Black only communties in South Africa too.
No they don't....they have no idea what a black community is. However, there are multiple Zulu, Tswana and Xhosa communities.
Duh It's AFRICA .. It's Majority black people. Now find me a black only community in Europe designed by Black people... I'll wait
Fred Focus Paris
kamvajnr dj mhluzi The difference is in black only towns any race can live there. You can’t live in Orania even if you are a rich, well known black person, with no criminal record. You can’t go there if you are Asian or mixed-race either. In a country which is supposed to be majority black. Never anywhere in Europe, would you ever get anything like this. That’s why, a lot of people have issues with it.
They are communities that were allocated to the blacks during the apartheid regime, and don't segregate nor chase anyone of any race, color, gender, unlike this video evidence provided.
Afrikaners: Please stop killing us.
Rest of the World: How DARE you?
Afrikaaneers : "we are bible believing Christians "
Bible : "every one shall go back to their own land and the Earth shall be at rest (peace).
It's time for you to go!
Run heathen ruuuun.
The Lord rebuke you!
@@Testimony4644 Jesus is my Savior. May God bless you.
@@Testimony4644 Dear Mr. Moses, I am an Afrikaner American. I do not live in South Africa. Most of us Afrikaners (and Americans) do not follow the Bible, do not obey Jesus, and are headed for Hell.
@@gospelfilms7942 with your lips you bless but your actions are contrary heathen. Therefore may the Lord rebuke you double for trying to deceive.
If they don’t want to mix who cares. A lot of the black community stays to itself.
Removing historical figures from textbooks is an issue though, it shows how deeply insecure they are. Revisionist history needs to stop
@@TheFamousMockingbird Exactly. I also believe that they want to play the victims and that is why they removed Mandela. Plus if you don't teach history it can repeat itself and who knows.. Maybe that is what they want.
TheFamousMockingbird I DO AGREE THAT CERTAIN PEOPLE ARE IN DEED INSECURE OF THEIR SKIN COLOR
If the whites of Africa are murdered nobody says anything, if they kill blacks in eeeuu it is published in all the news and international organizations, Hypocrites.
@jon cullen the white genocide myth is a tired lie being pushed out by white supremacists deflecting from their own races history of genocide against non white people. Tell me the statistics of black on white killings since the end of apartheid. There is a huge security issue in SA totally mishandled by the ANC but using the word genocide in this way is disingenuous and makes a mockery of the term. By the way I used to live in London and I used to go to Brixton. In recent years it's been taking over by white hipsters. Now that is what I call gentrification :-)
“Until the Lion tells the story, the hunter will always be the hero.”
I’m sorry, but who exactly are you calling the lion?
This here are the facts!
Until The Story Of The Hunt Is Told By The Lion, The Tale Will Always Glorify The Hunter. Thats how it sau in Swahili
@@hannatesfayetamene890 The lion can be anyone or anything
The hunter is n, and ly
Ion wh
0:17 Fact check. Afrikaans was not the tongue of the first Dutch settlers. Dutch was.
@@mrbobbilly I was simply stating a historic fact. I like accurate history. Afrikaans is not 100% Dutch, and Dutch is most certainly not Afrikaans. They made a mistake. As an Afrikaner, I find their ignorance offensive.
If I said that when the Pilgrims came to America, they spoke modern American English, everyone would think I'm stupid. If I protested and said, "Well, modern American English comes from the British English of a few hundred years ago," I would not have corrected my initial error. It just shows how little effort they put into this.
Gospel Films as a Dutchman I find I can understand Afrikaans always except when it’s very formal
@@lithiumvids9448 Even words like piesang and baie? Yes; you can understand much Afrikaans. My point was just that the video made a factual mistake by saying that the first Dutch settlers spoke Afrikaans, as it was only developed later.
I can see that Afrikaans could have been classified as a Dutch dialect. A very dumbed down version of Dutch. But there are different definitions of what is classified as a language or just a dialect. The old saying goes, "A language is a dialect with an army and a navy." Afrikaans had both and now has neither.
Om eerlik te wees, my volk is te lui om ons taal reg te praat. Hulle meng baie Engelse woorde in. Plus baie vuil vloekwoorde. Hulle kannie die woorde reg spel nie al word byna alles geskryf presies soos dit klink. Die eindresultaat is 'n afgewaterde gemors. Wat moet mens met so volk maak? Net die Here sal weet.
Gospel Films Afrikaans ziet er.......interessant uit ja, en het is volgens mij ook een dialect, want plat Limburgs is ook geen taal terwijl normale Nederlanders dat helemaal niet kunnen verstaan.
Gospel Films and we also have piesang
Uhm.... this is stupid. The "tongue of the first dutch settlers" was.... dutch.
Try telling them that.
They really think the original people are the problem. They did that to the Australian aborigines and native Americans and they still see nothing wrong.
Yes some were Dutch Portugese Spanish and other part of Europe
And Boers were not solely of Dutch decent.
Languages change genius
They choose to live alone And no one knows they exist So what's the problem? 🤷🤷🤷 3:14
@Jack Stucki true
Imagine living in a country with South Africa’s history of racism and apartheid but choosing to avoid teaching that part of history to create your own narrative..These are delusions of ppl trying to cling on to racist & outdated practices
@Communism Is Judaism the wealth distribution is shocking if you see the stats, inequality is way too big of course they will hate the top chain which is white people there.
If you think from the south african perspective its understandable but i dont know which one is right or wrong
@Communism Is Judaism and remember colonialism
@@imanafdar are you suggesting that Afrikaaner be expelled from South Africa?
As a black South African, I've slept over at a motel in this place. The hospitality and service I received(and overall experience) was amazing! These Afrikaners treated me with absolute respect and the service was impeccable. My brother and parents(who came with me) also admitted that they feel safer in the area, we accidentally left our car unlocked outside with the windows rolled down to keep it cool. Nobody touched our car during the night. If this was PTA or JHB, the car would've been stolen. I don't know what these guys are saying, but they are talking k*k. I wish the current SA government could be as competent as those leading Orania. Thanks Afrikaners, once again leading by example again.
I like that
You still better watch 'em. I bet they were nicey, nicely at first to every country they stole America from them.
I don't believe a word you wrote.
@@mwbright yeah, I mean the username as well tells a lot.
Lair you aren't Black at all. You're looking for excuses to praise Afrikaaners 😏
For a town of 2000 people, it sure has a lengthy and detailed Wikipedia entry.
Wikipedia is not to be trusted
@@rip2025 I'm just noting the size of the entry.
@Jon michael Maybe you want to create your own all-white town. You can do that, start a petition and hand it out to white people across America.
@@LukaDonesnitch America has plenty of all-white towns, and many of them are places the average white person wouldn't want to live.
@@Murchad99 well according to these white guys on RUclips they seem to believe they can’t have all white towns for some reason. That affirmative action or blacks are holding them back from achieving their all white haven. Apparently somebody made it illegal because that’s all they complain about on YT day in and day out.
"They want to live alone but we want to live with them". The eternal history of Europe and europeans.
Except in south africa?
@@palebluedot7435 No, also in SA. We are those who cannot breathe because they don´t leave us alone for a single second.
@@alejandrosotomartin9720
Lol I think you missed the point
Reread your comment and consider mine
You cant complain about being left alone when your living in the hunting grounds of another people
Dutch migrated there and want to be " left alone" after taking land more then once btw once from San
Then again from bantu in the 18-1900s
Alejandro soto martin are you guys still alive?
pale blue dot maybe the bantu shouldve had a more strict immigration policy. Take a tip from Steve Biko dude. For real. Study Steve Biko, Malcom X, and Marcus Garvey. Not all Civil Rights leaders agreed with WEB Du Bois and MLK jr. Check out Booker T Washington as well. There is an entire different side to Integration, called Separation. It is different than Segregation
If they wanna live alone let them seems like they not bothering anyone.
Balla 1527 if they do the same things in a place like US, UK, italy, etc they start playing victim card and cry for racism.....black life matter, etc....they even burn shop, protesting in the street, etc
Thato P truth hurt??
I think the concern is in so much whether they live alone or not. It's that places like these will go to means like physical intimidation/blocking people who are different. For example a black guy with money and equal opportunity to buy land isnt allowed in by no virtue other than, we dont want him here... Its tribalism and it has no place in a free society.
Tell them to get tf out of our continent.
@Dwayne Neal they’re not, only the Khoisan are. Then came the Dutch and after that the Bantu. I really hope the Dutch and Bantu give back the land to the Khoisan
As a Black man, I respect their decision to live alone. They should also leave us alone.
Your a sad person. Look forward not backwards.
They need to get tf out of Africa
Yeah n they must stop cheating our black people 😑
cool bro
Yes, blacks should stay in Africa except......that most of you want to come to the white countries.
Its a safe space for a minority...... just not the right minority, isn't it?
@Jig Saw
Haha
I will memorize that for my next libtard conversation.
True dat
@@xwind1970 so you are promoting white supremacy?
@@TheZombie001 you need to check your thoughts and beliefs my guy. you are suggesting something that fits into your narrative, to me it seems like you read a totally different comment
@@philip9528 what do you reckon the first post meant Phil ?
As a South African myself, I had no idea that this place existed
wow.
@Hopper33 nah South Africa should send them back, integrate or leave. Imagine if everyone started living after their ethnicity or history and language?
@Hopper33 the whole continent is stuck i the past..
@@kml7259 South Africa has failed to integrate and has become a country run by Black communists who seek revenge, not equality. Living seperately away from being persecuted and discriminated against for being white is the best they can do under the circumstances.
wow
I’m pretty sure the first Dutch settlers spoke Dutch, but I’m no expert.
Of course the Dutch spoke Dutch. Afrikaans is a dialect which has developed over a few hundred years.
@@calvinpurdy2668 i'm still yet to meet an Afrikaner South African that is willing to admit that their true origin is Dutch... somehow they all believe that they originated here in africa 😮
@@mpumentshangase4257 They might well have been born in Africa, as was I, but their ancestors most likely came from the Netherlands. My ancestors are from Germany and America.
The whole segment was revisionist history. Some people’s commitment to delusion is uncanny
@Silungisele Mthimkhu i find it: soet soos stroop (sweet like sugar) baba
"Nelson Mandela is not in their books because he isn't part of their history"
LOL
Crazy right?!
@@michaeldiggs3009 why not celebrating a man that did kill your kids
and is representing the dismantling of the nation your ancestors did create
@@Illtechnica to be used as a tool against men that did create and are maintaining the nation is not contributions
it is the opposite of it
be it in SA ,USA or Sweden ,France ....
@@curocurovic6675 the power wasn't very used in some areas, was it?
@@curocurovic6675 you are ill informed
If you’re a minority then that’s best thing you can do: sticking together
They are on stolen African land and yes because of this they should
@@kushtaseti4336 The largest black ethnic groups arrived in South Africa after the Boers did
@@samc2450 who are they ?
You meant to say:...."if you are a colonizer, you stick together. ..."
Same as ameriKKKa
@@samc2450 do you even know the history?
I don't see where the problem is, I'm black and I don't blame them South Africa has become a shit hole because corruption and crime
Irony is "Afrikaner" is literally African... I just don't understand why people who despise African Natives would name their whole culture and community after the thing they despise.
@@TheDaeroner No, not every Afrikaner despises black Africans. It's a minority. Sure , you find racism, but that's something in all communities. By the way, the Dutch, and other language groups as well, married black and slave women here at the Cape. So most white people here have black African in their ancestry as well. Some will deny this, but many not.
Thanks for saying that. I’ve heard that from many South Africans including people that have left Because of the crime. What a shame.
South Africa was better off under apartheid ?!
Your ignorance is embarrassing. Delete this nonsense.
@@TheDaeroner the dutch afrikaners are native to south africa. The mass waves of blacks came 200 years later around 1900
Come back to Netherlands guys 🇳🇱
And to Britain as well.
Bye felica 😂😂😂
@@tthkkkkk How did a pig get here ?
They dont have Visas or the money.
They can't or they will be killed or locked up.
People have a right to associate with whom ever they want to associate with.. as a black person i can respect that
Udakiwe wena.
THIS!!! Thank you buddy. People demonize one group for maintaining their identity and it's not normal.
But excluding others is something else.
@@yoliswambebe619 Access to our countries is not your "human right".
@@funjunk2835 what country?
This is more peaceful than the riot. I don't blame them.
This is racism, colonization, their ancestors took African land by force what a shame
I don't blame both white and black people because the system makes us do bad things
@@mehmetkoyuncuoglu1624 system is racist
@@yonniiisan The system is a racist and it also serves the rich people 🙄
@@yonniiisan
well what a SHAME that your ancestors was weak.. just the rule of nature doing it’s work.
My country was colonized and ruled for 300 years by Spaniards, but I am grateful they did because they bought to us development and culture, I couldn’t pretend to care for people I don’t even know that the Spaniards killed/oppressed just because they were my ancestral people.
yet you don’t see us b*tching about it because we aren’t crybabies and victim olympians, we have actual life problems unlike the whiny privileged west and some of the salty victim olympians in Africa who couldn’t move past what the white people did to their ancestors even after hundreds of years, we have self identity(unlike others that insists being black is their most important possession/trait) we just keep moving forward and be better, there is no use, point or justification delving in your weakling ancestor’s failures when things happened by nature’s law, such is the way the world have always worked and would always work till the end of times, maybe it’s not them feeling superior to you but it is you who feel inferior to them?
Once again, foreign media as always tells half a story
What is the other half ?
What is the other half?
The persecution they face of course
@@stoneman289 they’re a bunch of racists you sad weirdos
They only tell the white people side of the story “boo boo they intimidate us 😭”
I'm coloured and I don't see what's wrong with white people choosing to live isolated. This is a free Country. Even they have freedom of choice. Respect their right to live away from blacks. WELL DONE ...
I agree, but they have no official racial policy in Orania. Maybe they are all secretly racist, but I am white and both my parents are Afrikaans but would not be eligible to live in Orania because I'm not an Afrikaner Calvanist. Freedom of association is very important because if nobody wants to associate with a person or group, that person or group is clearly the problem. If the state forcing people to associate actually enables bad behavior because they are preventing the social consequences of people's actions.
South Africas growth and blessings will thrive on integration of all the races.
why don’t they go back to where they came from if they hate living with us so much? like why is that never an option
@@dimabaranova1213 it’s a free country idiot.There a plenty of African only communities in Europe.We don’t say ‘go back to Africa’.
@@nick2aim431 there reason there is only african free communities in Europe because most Europeans cant integrate with different colours and races unless for sport or work reasons. South Africa is a land where you have to integrate and respect ever race or leave.
No theft, no murder, no intimidation..... Sounds like the place to be
So move there
Go back to europe your not welcome in africa
Almost like when your town is only 2000 people it would have significantly less crime then a city with over 1 million. Shocker.
@@MrSpy13011 Tokyo has well over a million people and it's the safest city in the world. It's not just numbers, it's also culture...
Teach those kids the truth, don’t dilute what really happened.
As soon as the state school system stops leaving out the fact that Bantus only arrived in South Africa 100 years before the Dutch did from history text books. Also the fact that the Bantus almost completely wiped out the Khoisan (the native South Africans).
Most difinetly. Google on you tube where Julius Malema EFF leader admits that black people are not native to South Africa.
@@aaronconlon3880 Typical "European" version of the truth.
@@khemistrycreators4845 You mean the truth that black South Africans don't like being brought up? Are you going to deny that the Khoisan exist and their people were almost driven to extinction by the Bantu invasions?
@@aaronconlon3880 The Khoisan are my people (BOTH Indigenous AFRICANS) It was European settlers (COLONIALISM) that nearly drove them to extinction, fact.
Holy shit, I'm South African and I have not even heard of this place.
cuz its a shit hole
@@eddycarpenter8989 - Coz it’s thriving. While ANC territory is disintergrating. Theft and corruption everywhere. Racism between Bantoes, San, Koi and Zulus. Discrimination against African foreigners leading up to blatant racist murders.
This ‘European culture’ place is blossoming. ANC controlled media are not going to cover this. It might wake the black south African up. I am Dutch and have known about this place for decennia. Betsie Verwoerd lived here and was one of the establishers.
ANC does not want you to know. It’s a succes story.
@@eddycarpenter8989 Oh have you been there?
@@RivaZA1 no but i smell the people through my computer screen
They want to live crime free and in peace with their neighbors. What the hell is wrong with it....
go away racist white boy
Tienie ignore these idiots, people of every race has the right to live with their own kind
Nothing.
Nothing is wrong with it
@@pialachman5358 Says the racist!
then they should go live in peace in Europe where they belong. there they can live among their own how about that?
I am black South African I love both whites and blacks we should love one another.
Love you too brother
-a white south african
The first Dutch settlers spoke Dutch. Afrikaans developed after
Makes sense
@@LuckyRufey Afrikaans is actually slang and many languages mixed together. Referred to sometimes as kitchen Dutch. Probably the best expressive language of all time.
If only the Afrikaaner settlers preserved Dutch...
@@TheSilmarallion Afrikaans is considered a slave language, as the slaves with the masters created a language that mixed with others. This created Afrikaans. Many of them don’t even know this about their history. Thank god I’m English.
@@carltomacruz9138 😂
Kind of confused about the point they were trying to make with comparing the national daily murder-rate with a couple of people moving to a small town.
Years back we could leave our car keys in the ignition and go to the shop no problem. Today, people are murdered for cellphones. That is why
@@janstrydom5565 People keep saying that but it isn't true, unless you are speaking specifically of south africa
I am, find some material on the looting that happened here in Kwazulu Natal a while back.
I can vouch for what he says too
@@bjorlam8201 lol you can't just say people always say this but it's not true. When it's literally true. 🤣
looks clean,safe and peaceful
Believe me it is very peaceful there and on top of it absolutely no crime since the towns existence.
Certainly unlike the rest of the country
@@lawsonhellu4718 There are many peaceful middle class places in South Africa. Not to mention small towns usually have low crime.
They didn't show the shanty houses many new settlers of the town live in.
@@XHansCoché Except for the many shoddy houses that are there.
Leave these people alone, their way of living do not harm anyone.
Will it Not in long Run too ?
I see nothing wrong with this. As for the nostalgia, I'm sure they feel nostalgia for when the economy was better and the country was safer
safer only for whites you mean where anyone who wasn't white was disregarded thats why the economy was better
@@thepsychicpeach8425 the economy was better because the goverment focused on the economy not corruption and hand outs.
The economy can be even better without apartheid of we had the goverment to lead us.
@João Santiago Do you know what we call that kind of rhetoric in Europe?
USHUAIA TIERRA DEL FUEGO ARGENTINA
@João Santiago DONALD TRUMP GO HOME
If they wanna be alone, so be it! I can’t be bothered 😕
Maybe but barring other peoples freedom of movement is immoral
Especially based on unchanging characteristics
Alone, where?
Alone, it's not the apartheid age. If people wanna move there who happen to be black they should be allowed.
You’ll come up with valid points 💯 especially the part where they won’t allow black people to enter, but also they still exercising their right not to let other people enter their city. in this case I would say their city is ‘their property’ and they are entitled to decide who enters and who doesn’t. Yes it is a very strange exercise but in my opinion it doesn’t interfere with lives of other South Africans. It is a debatable issue given the history of SA!
I Wonder what would happen if Chinese immigrants start moving to Australia and start telling the native Australians that they don’t want them in there communities and just want to live alone? pretty sure that would’t go well.
In the USA where I live there are so many ethnic enclaves of Orthodox Jews, Chinese ("Chinatowns"), Somalis, Vietnamese, Koreans ("Koreatowns"), African Americans (Harlem) etc etc where the vast majority of inhabitants belong to one group. The most extreme example would be the colonies of Amish and Hutterites, who are 100% of white European descent, interact very little with the outside society and are pretty much closed to outsiders. Is this racism or ethnocentrism?
No I understand those types of towns like China town etc, with this type of place like Oriana, they bought a piece of land and they don't fall under the jurisdiction of South African government, they have their own government and they rule themselves and they might even have their own president, they broke away from the South African government they are totally autonomous. Whereas China town and China is still under American rule. Yes it is racism because they don't want to be ruled by a black government, and they believe that South African government want to do an die out their Afrikaans culture so it's both ethnocentrism and racism.
Do you live in midwestern Democratic town
@@sekoaib"They don't fall under the jurisdiction of South African government." Do you have a source for this? Orania has its own municipal administration and doesn't fall any other LOCAL administration. And like others you are just repeating what the narrator of the France 24 program is saying in that "they don't want to be ruled by a black government" or wish to return to the old days of apartheid.
@@vitakuzaliwa1465 No, northeastern part of the USA.
@יעקב ייגר how the the white people get the land?
What is wrong with it. They are peaceful and not part of the violent gangster South Africa.
My question is: why they have to mix with other race?
They dont have to but they shouldnt avoid it on basis of race
For example if you think whites should be able to kick them out of thier towns do you then agree blacks should be able to kick them out of thier country
@Elvis Ameb i was asking a question of thr original post
And yes we are trying to intagrate those areas
Ironically this benifites both races. Whites from mixed schools tend to be beter free thinkers as well
@Elvis Ameb its not quite forcing
Its promoting. Forcing only happens when there is a severe imbalence do to a societal standard
Ie if indians were forced to live in the cities but are trying to move out
While i agree you dont force it you do make it illegal to prevent it as it natural occurs
Otherwise you end up with very tribal people
@Elvis Ameb
Ya but tribalism is the opposite of what you want for a nation its weak divisive bad for evolution overall and for each group
And bad for knowledge
Again im not for letting people live i where they want
But i am against preventing others from living somewhere on the basis of race
@Elvis Ameb khoisans are blacks some look mixed with Asians but majority are black
Let them live in peace
As a white south African, I don't want to live with them. No way.
@@roybean7166 them being whom?
they can do so in their native land.
@@Dog.soldier1950 not in the town of Orania. No way. Not in Hendrik Verwoerd children and grandchildren town.
@@eugenemoyo2765 well, whatever you or I think of them, and I think they are verkrampt, Verwoerdian, it is also their land. They were born here. And there only 1500 of them, after 25 yrs. ! Let them live there. I would not want to live there.
If they are happy there and in doing so they don't cause any trouble, let them live in peace
Alot of white people get killed and raped every week there beacause of racism. Without white people owning farms there africans would have no food at all. Just search for Jaak Madison he went there with EU commisoners.
They don't belong in Africa. Colonizers
@@socr4820 and blacks and browns belong in europe? i don't follow your logic
@@socr4820 then get out of the west and live in mommy Africa.
@@socr4820 Ah, by that logic all foreigners can leave Europe
They're nostalgic for their country back. A safe country, worthy of raising their children in.
Colonizers
@@lemonaids5689 Yeah, they brought civilization. Cry harder will you? I can't yet sail my boat on your tears..
@@jackwoods535 true i'm a Zulu from KZN and i don't see a problem with it and claiming land is ridiculous politiceans want to get money by selling that land 😂🤦♂ really dumb and yeah we have some white people in our community.
@Ibo Zambotnik They built Rhodesia and it was a safe and wonderful place while they ruled..
@Ibo Zambotnik Lol. Says the people who necklaced each other with burning tires and now have a lower standard of living then when the Boers ruled.
Couldn't care less. If they wanna live on their own 🤷♂️ and be self sufficient then do it.
Yeah, I mean their not hurting anybody.
Forcing unwilling integration isn't really any different then forcing unwilling segregation.
As long as there isn't any laws on the cities books banning people for their race I see zero issue here.
As long as they're not hurting anyone that's fine by me... But if they're being rude to Africans then Africans are not going to take that as well as you think
@@yunarukami7943
Funny you should say that, because the rudeness is directed at them, the threats as well
@@stoneomountain2390 both sides are in the wrong... Don't be biased
@@yunarukami7943
As long as people can publicly call for the death of my genetic minority, I'll be biased against them.
As long as I'm considered an unemployable I'll be biased.
As long as charity is Denied to my minority group by law I'll be biased.
My family worked and died here for 300 years, a few were even slaves, yet I'm told to go back to Europe??
I'm not biased, I'm bitter.
Very sad to see a place like this.
What he means is what a crime free, clean, orderly well run place without corrupt anc idiots.
Wow your statement says alot about you and your views. May God open your heart and mind. We all came from Adam and eve remember that . Don't let political views and people control your heart you control your heart there isn't a race think they made that to always have control be smart and Just and fear God for there will be a day of judgment and God will Ask everyone what they did in life and how they lived.
Nope just a bunch of people,longing for the "good old days"with NP in control,where they could freely massacre people of colour.
Oh crap John Butler
Roxanne...Massacre? You mean building houses, churches and schools for them? You mean the millions of rands given to their tribes every year for doing nothing is now a massacre? You must have had a leftist education...
@@Hellstothenaw They literally treated the africans as 2nd class citizens. They were better off on their own.
Correction. Afrikaans is not the tongue of the first dutch settlers. It was in fact first spoken by the workers on the dutch farms and became known as kitchen dutch. If you are going to report news, then know your facts.
True.
You forgot to mention the Khoi and San influence and origins of Afrikaans as they were the ones who created the stable pidgin that could be used between the settlers and the indigenous peoples.
The African influence was later removed to try and present Afrikaans as a "pure" and white language. The Afrikaans movement is currently trying to address this.
not kitchen dutch but '"kaap Hollands"" cape Dutch
It’s all about changing the narrative this changing what people think
@@esrakarugaba5110
That's what they are trying to do here in the US Black privilege is running rampant
Oh, for sure. Every they yhe police shoot them less and less. Those rampant people
Danny don't talk rubbish
How did you ever come up with that one ? Especially, with all of the inequality that America stands for.. You have apparently misspoke. But, I will gladly accommodate in enlightening your indubious ignorance. "It is the aire of White Supremacy, that is running, how it has always been ran." What, if I may ask, is dominated and is running rampant, by the Black Community, other than crime ? We , against our own will, built the foundation, from which others merely profited. And what you witness today, here in America, is only a continuum of a process that was instigated, long before you or I came into existence. We, like everyone else, are only part of an evolutionary dynamic. Part of a trajectory of misfortune for some and most certainly, a benefit for others. If you look deep into your history and you are with a moral compass, you should be ashamed. On the other hand, if that is not the sentiment felt, "GOD have mercy, on your soul."
It's their town, leave them alone. That is freedom
Would be interesting to see crime figures for Orania.
zero
ZERO
Probably very low... considering the inhabitants culture isn't criminal.
Or any other town anywhere in the world with a population of 1500. Don’t be an idiot on the internet. Dumbest comment on this thread.
@@SerG-ez2po lol and that’s why you’re not there right?
This news network has to draw a line between discrimination and preference
Skullk2 true
ARGENTINA UBER ALLES
@@kidyfiddler5527 BARILOCHE EL BOLSON SAN MARTIN DE LOS ANDES ARGENTINA
He has to go back to school
@Kidy Fiddler
Wrong
Hopefully their choice to move into this town has nothing to do with safety reasons. No matter how South Africa handles the situation, violence against anyone based on race should absolutely not be tolerated.
Every action has an opposite and proportional reaction. You sow violence, you don't reap peace.
When apatheid was raging and south Africans were massacred, where were you? Now you are saying no one should incite violence against the whites. Is the land for them? KILL THE BOER AND CLEAR SOUTH AFRICA OF IMPERIALISTS
Shut up. You literally make me sick.
@@mountzion2495 the numbers would make you ashamed ,if you did have that ability
@@emmaatieno7057
you should educate yourself about the history of west african populations in that region
I'm just steady waiting on the 100% African neighborhood in the Netherlands.
Lol, sint worry it will come, and we're not Africans we're people fo the Nile or people of the sand or the forest or winter
We call them "no go zones"
@@Mirlaaaa na, hostel I mean Europe a no go zone,
@@hijvgkolfsr5871 … so Africans
@@george4281 no . So geroge is a no go zone so European
several hundred killed in the space of a few days in rioting across south africa last month, can you blame these people ?
Shut up
@Tapiwa Mubvumbi You shut up. If the beloved Mandela was still alive he would have a freakin heart attack and die again. I'm not for Apartheid, infact I hate and despise racism. But sadly the black government has been raping SA for many years now, you can't blame this on Apartheid anymore. Look at all the corruption, look at all the riots, look at all the deaths and then besides that implementing a BBE system for black empowerment to keep racism alive. This country that I live is a joke, we take jobs away from our people allowing foreigners from African countries to freely March in. We are giving the Chinese a massive hold and look even our railway has come to a freeze. So with all due respect, you shut up!
@@hamzaduplessis3576 the government should give back the land to the indigenous owners of the land. That’s what the cry of the people is about.
Freedom of association should be a universal right ….
@DRE_Talks There were no natives when the dutch settled in SA.
Those people are living on stolen land.
@@jasonpatel6562 just curious ….Who did they steel it from? (In your opinion )
@@ike7933 They are not native to that country, so who do you think they stole from? Obviously the african natives. Same as what happend with the native Americans in the us.
@@jasonpatel6562 again, because you leftists can't seem to understand... There were no native tribes in South Africa when the Dutch settled. After a presence was established by the Dutch, the Zulu tribe (and a few other taken over by the Zulu) pushed south to try and take over but failed. The Dutch settled on uninhabited lands... Unless you think all of Africa is only for "Africans". But let's not go down that road.
I don't support the racism but Orania is an inspiration to all communities in South Africa. It is clear that the ANC has failed to run the country, instead of looking for false hope, communities in South Africa should focus on being self sufficient independent from government.. communities should run their own schools, hospitals and start their own businesses to create jobs... it's a step for reviving the country.. thank you Orania... your economic model is the only way to save South Africa from the ANC
Thank you. One of the few who ranks as sane and quite honest.
@@norapeters7973 The land was forcefuly taken from South Africans and it must be given back without compensation.
Racism is when you hate someone with another skin color. They never said they hated black peoples (matter of fact in the comments black peoples said they were treated nicely there), they just want to live together, people sharing the same values and cultures.
Orania is only soo rich because of its “racism”
The people create the nation and when you have a town of ethnic Dutch Afrikaaners then the town will have similar crime rates to Netherlands and Europe.
What "racism" are you talking about?
Holy shit. These news station was dumbing down genocide.
yeah khoi genocide by bantu zulus
It's a place of refuge, and they don't want Apartheid back. They didn't steal land from poor natives. There were almost no blacks when the Dutch arrive.
Yeahh... thats a lie you wrote in South African history books
Were you there?! When someone's been sleeping in your bed, don't be alarmed, because they didn't steal it. There just wasn't anyone around.
their culture ?
apartheid is culture ?
@NOWHERE PEOPLE Are you talking about Africans? With their black musicians and philosophers, and well-mannered populace, smh.
@Elvis Ameb Unfortunaly, the Black ethnic division is more divided than the european descendants. They mantained their tribal division while discussing against arabs and whites about afrikanerdom.
@Elvis Ameb Little white trolls without profile pics shouldn't speak on issues they know nothing about.
Safest Town in South Africa.
I like that they let the kids come to their own conclusions and actually teach the kids to think for themselves..
NEUQUEN CHUBUT SANTA CRUZ TIERRA DEL FUEGO ARGENTINA
Leaving out NELSON MANDELA is absolutely idiotc. That's like if India stopped teaching kids about Ghandi
Are you deaf? They clearly said they gave them two different books. Only one of them left Mandela out. He's clearly still in their curriculum.
@Rory Addison
No, Mandela would absolutely be in the state-mandated textbook. The kids would still get to learn about Mandela, as they should... I like that the school wants them to form their own opinions and doesn’t indoctrinate them with racist views
@@coyotelong4349 I mean teaching two curriculums and letting the kids ”figure it out themselves” is ripe for teaching all kids of radical views. I have no idea what the towns own curriculum or atmosphere is so the following is just an example: If you live in a town that is only for people who believe the earth is flat and provide one book that tells the truth and another that explains why the earth is flat. The children are told by their parents that the earth is flat and this is the common belief of the town. Do you think the child will believe that the earth is round or flat? I would say that the kid would believe the lie and ignore the book that tells the truth. Yes they were given both the truth and the lie but societal norms and the views of the people around you definetly impact what you choose to believe. Especially when you are young.
The safest place in all of South Africa.
Yes, then show the 50% of the rest of the country which is only black. I live here. Sick media
are you black?
80% of the country is black, so what. Where is there an area where whites are not allowed to go?
@@hannes4045 There's a diffenrence between unofficially not allowed and officially not allowed.
I bet there are areas in SA where whites are unoficially not allowed to go... because if they do the get shot on the spot with no questions asked.
With so many murders on white farmers each day it wouldn't surprise me if such "only black"areas existed as well.
@@miljomuppen2790 This has nothing to do with the farm murders. Never have I seen a town of black people or heard of one that will kill and/or beat up white people just for being white. Individuals, yes but not a bloody town.
@@miljomuppen2790 where can't they go? They can literally go anywhere
It is also the safest town in the world
I'm Somali living in SA. I don't know why many black south Africans like the guys interviewed in this clip have a problem with a group of white south Africans making their own town?! Aren't y'all happy by yourselves?!
Europe is not south africa
@Bubbles yea, they kept the country from turning into a hell hole (like it has since Apartheid ended)
@Bubbles all sorts of crimes against humanity
@@NotYourFriendPal u still hurt the natives of Africa rule their own land.....
We taking back what's ours and it will never be stolen by devils again
Will u approve if a group of South africans go to Somalia and build a little south africa within your land with own flag and currency. Restricting u to even come near that town! 😎
European whites to south African working class whites: "let them eat cake"
The Bantu and San in South Africa should not be burdened with the responsibility of feeding Europe's unwanted surplus population.
@@randalljackson4824 so racist wtf
“Working class” People are almost never white in south africa
Yes because Europe is one country and one people only. Bulgarians & Finns should take responsibility for Dutch settlers in Africa? You dummy.
@@mirsad96 I have absolutely no idea how you got your response based on what I wrote.
Pretty rich France educating us about colonialism, they’ve left Europe a mess! Plenty of racism towards whites now in all these countries an the world! Look at Rhodesia & look at SA. Plenty of time to fix their countries but they never did. Look in the mirror folks and try bring people together rather than Further separating and dividing.
Beautiful message man. Have a great day, and keep spreading the love 👍
It is not about not letting the past go. It is living in a place where things work. We need more enclaves like this. The government worries about these people doing something for themselves, instead of looking at the country falling apart under their leadership. The mentality of i want what you have, I do not want to do it myself.
Go back to Europe...
Go back to Europe if you want a place that work
The "I want what you have mentality" summarizes some decades of your History and explains why you and your parents settled in the land you are living.
Looks like The Most High wont let the PAST GO....for there is MUCH WRATH yet to bestow upon the heathen of all nations....BOOK OF OBADIAH.
@@ChessNoobX Should we say to immigrants go back to africa??
Knowing what’s going on there I honestly can’t really blame them
Yes when starting racism and it ended u are running away clap for ur self
What's going on there?
@@the1knifepro169 So that should justify the wrong doings of Europeans towards Africans? White on white crime exists too, don’t forget that.
@hunter christensen Can you confirm this?
@@the1knifepro169 if you check my Last name you will understand I am a Nigerian and I know what I am saying
My gosh, South Africa has its own version of CNN, politically correct bs.
@Deepthi Rupasinghe don't try he is a moron, he just got ridiculed publicly
Stfu racist boomer
It's French CNN and just as bad.
What was racist about the town? They just don’t want to give land that they previously owned without compensation. The government has to give compensation because you don’t just take land from people without proper agreements or else you will have trouble.
That is what probably got them in problem in the first place. Taking land that other people already lived on and felt it was their home.
Sure not all land In Europe is inhabited by population/humans .. (there is free land between cities in any country)
so those area in south Africa 1million percent belonged to those black native ppl .. cus eventually they'll get populated and expanded to different sides of their lands
Just like those free(non cultivated or inhibited) lands are literally found everywhere in every country
You obviously don't know the history of the Afrikaner Apartheid government.
They need compensation for the land they stole💀
Yeah sounds like a great idea, pay the long lost Dutch for the land they stole anyway right.
@@sleepystation4087 no they dont
full white town. Organized. No crime. No killings. Normal schools.
You people tried to genocide black people. You white "Africans" are inherently criminal.
@@dsaasd-bc3bg no genocide happened
@@dsaasd-bc3bg Funny how you outnumber Whites 15:1- same ratio throughout last 350 years - no genocide happened. Now pull out the stats of White murder victims by Bl-a-cks and do the comparison.
I bet it is one of the safest and peaceful towns in South Africa
Technically it's actually the safest
I'd bet they are running a pedo wring
@@adrianjeffrey2897 that only happens in big, multicultural, metropolitan areas where no one knows each other and can only relate based on superficial secular ideologies like being anti-racist.
@@flacornmallrat lies...
@@adrianjeffrey2897 interesting that you went to "pedo" right away. Some projection perhaps? Anyway youngest age of consent is actually in Africa but it's not in that town or with people who look like that👀,so......
What is wrong with not wanting to mix??? Everyone has the right to preserve their genes.
"Diversity is a strength." :D
They can return to the Netherlands and preserve their blood in their homeland.
@@EviLSouL05 hope youre joking ?
@@Teutonick143 Hell yeah im joking.
Apartheid.
I'm amazed that these Afrikaans are surviving despite so many obstacles. They seem like hard working people.
They own most of the lands.
@@gobimurugesan2411
a lie ---yet you keep repeating it
your population in SA did grow from 3 millions to 50 in under european rule
most of the most fertile land is in your hands and in the hands of your government ,the problem is you want white land ,only to destroy it
@@curocurovic6675 last time I checked 70% of the land is still owned by whites. And they are not even 10% of the population.
@@gobimurugesan2411
" last time I checked "
you didn't do anything ,you did think and say what is being told to you
they own 23.6% of rural land and 11.4% of land in towns and cities
majority of land is owned by the state but in that land (that is in many cases more fertile ) there is nothing to loot and there is nothing to take from european men that created the nation west africans are dismantling
@@gobimurugesan2411 and btw because that people did feed you your population did grow from 3 millions to 50 and you want now ,based on that their property
what we see in SA will repeat itself until people learn some things
It may not be racist, they probably feel comfortable living amongst themselves. They are not violent.
Uhhlala, the French trying to teach the others the respect to other cultures and ethnicities, like if they have a good record themselves.
Well they did not segregate maybe thats why, dont worry you will never see them talking about our looted artifacts.
@Roro ro Except that today in France you are as good as you are French on their terms. Even the slightest sign of deviation gets you set apart and treated as second class citizen.
@@gteixeira In France we are all second class citizen for someone x'D
@qanon ymous1 "Du haut de ces pyramides, 3000 ans d'histoire nous contemplent" N.
@@Entasis5555 But when you have some immigrant background or you just don't have a nice passport you are second class to all proper French citizens.
Nostalgic about South African Airways that can't even maintain or fly a Airbus A320...La merde!
Let's Value Human life best pls...
Allons allons....un peu de serieux!!!
“No mention of Nelson Mendela in the school’s curriculum” says a whole lot about exactly what the children are being taught.
You mean, the Nelson Mandela who was part of a terrorist organization that killed both whites and blacks, or the Nelson Mandela on t-shirts in America?
Are you from SA? Do you know what is taught in our SA schools?
@@tanianel1701 Nelson Mendela ending apartheid? Yeah I expect it to.
They are the minority in a country built by their ancestors. Why shouldn't they want to have their own settlement
Because they are colonizers
In the UK the whole concept is to promote minority rights however in RSA it is the priority to promote the majority rights.
Makes sense considering the differing history in both countries.
That’s what happen when the minority oppress the majority for centuries. Or vice versa. Critical thinking is important here.
Because the minority stole and received all the resources in the previous regime. The minority has the majority of the countries resources. You know this. Stop acting like it is coming from nowhere. You know how the Apartheid government on,y looked after white South Africans and stole all the resources so that there is nothing for the black majority.
Yeah because the majority are the oppressed and the minority were the oppressors. It is the African people's land and they colonized it.
It should be EQUAL rights. Nobody has more right than another human being. If we promote minority or majority rights, we are promoting discrimination or reverse discrimination. Everybody should be equal and that is it. That doesn't mean equal wealth like the communist. More of equal opportunity and rights as it should.
My opinion is that my opinion is irrelevant because i'm not there and it won't change anything.
Finally someone who gets it...
G R
So you are interrupting someone's day to announce, not your lack of an opinion necessarily, but your unwillingness to share it. If you had none, you might as well have stayed silent, unless you meant to advertise your humility and objectivity. You may have forgotten what you wrote six months ago, but it might be relevant to me now, as my curiosity has been piqued. Sorry if I don't find your statement 100 percent convincing.
@@jesusislordsavior6343 Some people try to virtue signal their own neutrality/centrism/cowardice. Strange times to live in when people think they're smart just because they don't take sides because they're ignorant or spineless.
Well, yeah. All I know is that I don't know.
@@jesusislordsavior6343 u can’t dictate what people should do and say, it’s the internet
In fairness, they don’t strike me as people who want to mix with anyone. That is to say, outside of their community. We have communities like this in the states, it doesn’t necessarily make them racist. For example the Dutch Mennonites is a bit similar. They’re not known to be racist.
Exactly. It's about preservation of their culture and their way of life, and creating a future for their children.
Did you catch the teaching curriculum or are you blind and deaf?
Being a religious cult and a band of racists are two different things
@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow How did u manage to link those two? Not having black people around doesn't make them racist and they aren't a cult.
@@jaendrebezuidenhout There's a difference between wanting to be a tight knit religious community and wanting to segregate by race. It's racist.
Nostalgic for apartheid? I doubt it very much, they just want to be left alone, stop inciting hate.
They were never justified in colonizing South Africa. It boggles my mind that they think their “heritage” of hate should be preserved at all. Giving black South African back land that was stolen is not wrong, no matter how much it disadvantages those who illegally took possession and profited from it. It’s interesting to see the mixed race woman identifying with the white Dutchmen.
Provide proof of the stolen land. Oh and please explain the Mfecane to me because the way I understand it Shaka stole land from other black tribes🤣🤣🤣
Nobody wanted it till they developed it. Read some history.
Nonsense. The khoi khoi are the indigenous population and they gave the Boers permission to settle. They then moved inland to unoccupied land. Do you where the Bantus came from? Central Africa, that's where. They migrated to south Africa too. What about the Zulu leader dignane and why he lost land? The boers agreed a treaty with him to get his livestock in return for allowing them to settle on land. After the Boers got his cattle back the Zulus violated the treaty and slaughtered the Boers. Enraged the Boers quickly took their revenge by defeating the Zulus at blood river and annexing the land as a punishment. They were not the innocent victims of white aggression.
@@wonjubhoy People dont care about the true history. They only follow the narrative some body else put in their small brains.
Exactly. Reparations should benefit the oppressed, not the oppressors. And the oppressed were the Africans native to the area.
They teach us self reliance...self determination... Leave them alone they don't bother anyone...
If they want to be left alone, they should go back to Europe.
@@Sweet-Rat-Milk were they born in Europe?
@@Sweet-Rat-Milk Why? On what basis? We all have one common ancestor from Africa.
@@Sweet-Rat-Milk yeah and every American should go back to Europe,every African American to Africa,Every Brazilian back to Portugal,every Mexican Spanish to Spain lol
@@Sweet-Rat-Milk Not a bad idea. Send back all africans currently in EU and USA to Africa too.
The SA constitution allow for self determination of any ethnic group. It is amazing that everyone here works and there is little to no crime…
Its a town of 2000 people. Are you really comparing it to a country thats majority poor with selfish leaders who steal!? You probably think the old government was more competent too, when they only had to govern the minority. Its not amazing, just small
They definitely need some diversity.
@@jamesbond4810 not with blacks
@@jamesbond4810 for what so they can get killed?
@@cesarromo987 How many blacks have you killed 400 years. invaded south Africa oppressed people no reason. country belong natives.
Some time ago my wife and I visited Orania to discuss strawbale house construction with an architect resident there. Although we speak English we were welcomed with open arms and found it to be, safe, crime free and above all meticulously maintained and litter free. The people we spoke to just got on with what they were doing and were hard working and enterprising. If I raised the subject of politics, the conversation was tactfully steered away from the subject. White people are now the victims of a new apartheid in SA. It is called Black Economic Empowerment and Transformation and targets whites. Curiously, it has resulted in poor economic growth and soaring unemployment among black people- in short the exact opposite of what it is intended to achieve. Good on the people of Orania.
You're lying and you're an undercover racist. Have shame
Nope. It was a CODESSA negotiated settlements. And you can't say it targets whites because white own the economy of South Africa, in all forms you can think of. And this is because they were empowered. As a black person I'm not benefitting from all those things, majority we get our way through our experience and credentials. What you are talking about is only those who carry membership cards of the ruling party. The ruling party which is in place to protect capital interest. First negotiations for this country was between Anc elites and business elites. They made deals before the main negotiations. But we shouldn't call out black economic empowerment, which was largely driven by capital, as if there wasn't English Empowerment and later followed by Afrikaner Empowerment when they took one. Thinking was right everybody deserved to be empowered. English oppressed both blacks and Afrikaners put them in concentration camps. Later Afrikaner oppressed the blacks. After oppression every society comes our poor, disempowered and uneducated. It's a pity the BEE one is a scam. Made a few billionaires, somehow close to Anc and left out everybody else.
No that's not the problem; Its South Africa's confusing trade policy that I would think the post-apartheid government didn't touch and its hard to Invest in South Africa because of opaque regulations, not poor infrastructure. I wouldn't be surprised if the top brass of the govt. are getting filthy rich off Investing regulation free.
Yea they want your business but don't want certain people living there too!
So you guys were accepted because you were white? Because I thought you had to be Afrikaner to be accepted there😂real racist of them but nothing new..BEE doesn't only target white people it targets the minority. In reality Coloureds and Indians aren't really considered Black in this country.
What about refuge in EUROPE???!!!🤔
Most??!!!!😳4million remaining
Nah the statistics don’t support this claim. The last time i checked there are over 5.6million europeans settlers in Africa as compared to 4.5 million africans in Europe ironically. Would never have bumped into this piece of info if i didn’t research on this subject. Again note that the africans in Europe never call it ‘HOME’. Big difference imo
Your facts are inaccurate. Whites are everywhere claiming someone else’s ancestral land belongs to them
Lol they never call it home. They long to return to the motherland no matter what. Many who don’t have some financial crisis
@@nickyapenahier9214 LOL That's a lie. Africans in Europe most certainly do call it home, and become offended when told they are not (Insert whichever European nationality here) and start hollering yes they are.
What is not being said is that the founder of this town Carel Boshoff was a white Afrikaner and also a Protestant minister. He lived among black people when it was actually against the law, as a missionary. After many years he came to the conclusion that the two races will never mix . So he decided to start his own town. First he looked in the Northern Transvaal but decided that the land is too fertile and will attract a lot of unwelcome attention. So he bought the area which today is named Orania. It is a dry arid area that nobody really wanted. Long story short, that area is now worth multiples of what they paid for it ,highly productive, standing on its own two feet, safe and harmonious ,not expecting a handout from anyone. Just one wish and that is to be left alone. Off course, the current government can't let that go. It is just too embarrassing to them because they are getting shown up, again.
Then they must go back to where they came from! You can’t live in Africa and complain about living with Africans. 🙄if this cult leader was soooooo into peaceful living he would have taught truth not lies.
@@NomaswaziMadi By your logic all blacks should leave Europe and America if they don't like it. Funny that isn't it?
@@grassfedbull5245 they should as soon as the west world takes all the companys and go back to the west.
@@grassfedbull5245 those black people were brought there against their will these white people chose to come to Africa, so no it’s not the same
@@rea4177 There are no blacks living in Europe that were brought against their will. Blacks are sailing across the Mediterranean everyday to get into Europe as we speak !
Sad how nobody helps these people
JaenCarlo 122 Russia is currently helping them.
Help them? 😂😂😂 thank goodness the tables have turned
😂😂😂
I see no issue with their decision to be alone...just let them be
@Ibo Zambotnik and west africans do not?
@Ibo Zambotnik
west africans came to that region 1000 years ago and after ending the natives they created infrastructure to sell own folks
european men did take zimbabwe 1000 years ago and in less than 100 years they created the breadbasket of africa
if you did know history you would know such things
@Ibo Zambotnik
son ,west africans have been made 13 000 years ago
more than 2 000 years ago they did take what s today uganda
in that 2 000 years the only thing they did develop was trade...they did trade girls from congo to arabs
buganda was one of the last territories to be colonised from europeans
the economy did not change in that 2 000 years
and they are even today angry that english people did force them to work the land
is all respect for asselar man and his descendants
you are not more native in that region than you are in france
and for who was better to the land ,descendants of asselar man or europeans a small observation of all of the european countries(including France) that you are "enriching " in the same way you did "enrich "SA should be enough to see that
Mugabe was an African champion
May be helpful to point out that the entire area is actually privately owned. They basically built a town on a farm. So on privately owned property do people not have the right to allow whom they please access or is that not a thing in your country.
No one invited them to come to any part of Africa. They need to be removed and never allowed to return. Africans can't go to Europe and claim land. It sickens me that they were compensated at all after what their ancestors did.
Stolen land, give it back and get out, go back to your racist country
I. Was. Told. By. My. Grandma. Never. Let. A man. Into. Your. House. And. Take. It. Over
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Im sure you would think so. These racist whites havr the odacity to come to south Africa and segregate land for themselves. They are lucky the black people are ok with them being there 😒
No. They need to be sent back to Europe. When blacks tried to do this in Tulsa, a frenzied white mob descended upon them and murdered all of them in cold blood.
We need this in Europe
Nah segregation is bad
Chris You mean natural*.
@@lizdamienii3063 stfu u devil
@@dreadxplayzs7849 Literally looks like a devil too😂😂😂. Yoh.
Aysten Williams No.
When you try so hard to demonise these people and push your narrative. Disgusting
@Daniel Norberto you would think that after 400 years they have a right to be there. Europe wont take them or let them move back even if they wanted to and many would if they were given the opportunity. They have no other home or place to go, it's their place of birth for centuries.
@Daniel Norberto so does that philosophy apply to and for other parts of the world and ethnicities too where people migrated to like Australia, north America, south America, middle east, Asia, Russia etc. or only to these people?
@Daniel Norberto oh and I suppose you think the European Russians of today were the original first nations there
@@johnnydebeer9409 The problem is not them being there, it is their beliefs and their system. Do you think that there is a city in Germany filled with people that still follow Hitler's plans and are getting away with it?
@@hannes4045 right there you just proved you know nothing about them except your own preconceived prejudice based on nothing but false conclusions
I cannot think of one place in the U.K. that has a white only town.
Do have white only towns anywhere in France?
Imagine wanting to be safe
@JimboParadox there were hardly any blacks when the dutch arrived they had to bring them ftom other parts of africa
@@bigleague9683 are u stupid the khosa r native to the land
@@rorymarcel228 cape town
@@rorymarcel228 They come from North Africa.
Yeah, whites just wanting to be safe. They are so racists
As long as they remain peaceful, don't threat other communities and mind their own business than I'm perfectly okay with it.
Didn't get their peacefully and who wants to wait around until they start more unpeaceful stuff
Omg I can’t even imagine how bad the riots are in Orania right now. Oh yeah that’s right, there weren’t any.
Because they wount allow anyone to give them a wakeup call. Would you honestly be happy if South Africa was like that again?
@@hannes4045 Yes, I would be happy if SA was safe and civilized like Orania.
@hannes well equality sure as hell isn’t working out.
Yeah some town in the middle of nowhere was surely going to get riots
Good for them for preserving their culture.
In Africa?
They should preserve their culture in Europe. Europe needs them. The invasion, remember?
Better solution. They can always leave.
Notice the natural order, and civilized good nature. They learn both, and the news caster doesn’t say this. He’s biased.
@DRE_Talks still better than drug dealing, tearing down art, burning churches, etc..
@@BeIteshazzar you really are ignorant lol.
@@BeIteshazzar Any guesses why the Boers dont react as oppressed people do?
@@SCRUBN1F1CENT profoundly!
@@hisbeautifultruth5931 I guess their freedom is in Christ..
These people need their “safe” space too.
I stay in South Africa, but I’ve never heard of this place 😹
They refer to Orania as if it has walls and gates.
LOL me neither. I'm actually shook
@@LeratoM98 shook?u mean shocked?
@@dreadxplayzs7849 Same thing. "Shook" is colloquial.
@@LeratoM98 its not the same in english
The trouble is that redistribution of land programmes simply doesnt work. Zimbabwe demonstrated that when prosperous farms were suddenly given away to people who had absolutely zero idea about running such large farms.
Many white farm owners returned later to discover that the crops they left behind had been allowed to rot in the ground, machinery had not been maintained so no longer worked, dairy cattle had largely all been slaughtered for food and property had been left to rack and ruin.
Black africans are subsistence farmers and sadly if farms are simply given to them from the whites then South Africa will end up a third world nation like so many others. Where the West see TV footage of starving children.
South Africa and Zimbabwe are two examples of countries that were once successful and prosperous but given over to the inexperienced africans results in them going to from bread baskets to dust bowls.