@azeria1 But new Hong Lu doesn't have a Glut guard, and his skills actively don't give Rupture (while still consuming it) after there is a certain amount of it.
I keep saying this to everyone The reason why Rupture Supports are in a weird state, and why Gluttony is such a rare skill nowadays Its Red Sheet Sinclair fault, he broke the game
@@puenboy1because the lccb Ryoshu passive wording could be interpreted as what it currently is. The pre-nerf state was, according to PM, unintended. Meanwhile, as broken as it is and how much PM probably wishes to change it, the current Talismanclair probably works as originally intended
I feel it's also why there hasn't been many IDs that give a ton of Rupture count by comparison to other statuses (like Ring Outis for Bleed or Zwei W. Sinclair and Yurodivy Ryoshu for Tremor). Since they know that most bosses will get melted in a few (not including phase transitions) due to the pure damage nature of Rupture (don't need to worry about resistances like Sinking or Tremor). Rupture was always a strong statues, probably one of the best in the game but held back by the amount of hoops you have to jump through to get to that point.
Just imagine a world where TalismanClair doesn't exist and we have actual Rupture teams and diverse rupture supports/gimmicks instead of one guy literally carrying an ENTIRE status on his back.
This is why I wish they had the balls to nerf/change IDs/EGOs sometimes, kinda like how they changed lccb ryoshu's support passive a while ago. It just boxes out room for creativity because one wrong move and rupture will be the best status effect for every single fight
Who is Talisman Sinclair to you? CinQ Meursault: Never seen him before but I have heard about him Deyvat Rodion: Without him, I probably wont make it this far. Latern Don: I heard that his feats could even bring rupture back, and I didnt doubt it at all. Rosepanner Fixer Gregor: His definitely a core asset to our team. *All: All I can say is that.* *All: He is the strongest support*
You fiddled the riddle! You did it! This is why I tell people Rupture *can't* stack like any of the other status effects, because THIS is the end result. This was in STORY too, no EGO Gifts! As long as this can get consistently set up... why would you use anything else? You might use Sinking if the enemy is Gloom weak/fatal, Tremor Reverb or Time Moratorium if it's Sloth weak/fatal... But being able to put out THIS is exactly why Rupture IDs don't clash well and don't get Count easy. They killed the Barber in 4 turns, MINUS 2 SINNERS. I'm not a Rupture hater, I enjoy Rupture units, but lets be real here. PM has to work AROUND the fact Rupture doesn't have to play fair when they are balancing fights. Burn is capped at 99 per part, and the other sources of status damage (Tremor - Reverb, Time Moratorium, Dark Flame, Sinking) are atleast typed or come with other downsides (Tremor - Reverb teams can accidentally knock it off with Tremor - Superposition, if enemy isn't staggered or resists Sloth then Time Moratorium gets far less effect, enemies can resist Pride and Magic Bullet Outis has teamkilling issues if not given proper attention, enemies can resist Gloom and Sinking deals no damage to enemies with SP unless you have Sinking Deluge ready)
I love TalismenClair but this fight definitely showcased the power of rodion talismen support for me. Being able to have neutral count for (almost) every single skill for 2 strong IDs is so absurdly strong for consistency and we could never have that before - even ids like seven Faust and heath who were our best before had -2 count skill 1s.
From what I gathered, using CinqSault makes the fight faster since he can contribute to rupture procs without messing up the 15x3 condition BUT less consistent (needs to reset a lot). Substituting him with other IDs that has gluttony defensive skills makes it more consistent BUT makes fight slower since Devyat Rodion and sometimes NomNom Don are the only ones using their skills while the rest are just defending. Also, having 4 instead of 5 sinners is much better because you should give 2 slots to CinqSault/NomNom Don since their skills help proc rupture much faster as you need to end fights asap before the boss kills you.
I slept on rupture so hard. I only just recently remembered talisminclair. Until then, I was wondering why they couldn't add more count to rupture to let the stack grow, I didn't know it could grow so fast with that. Now that I remembered his existence, zayum. They holdin rupture back for a reason
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The maximum amount of coins you can throw out in 1 turn with this is 19. At 99 potency, that's 1881 damage from rupture alone. Ricardo ends his fight at 1882 HP. Ricardo is now mortal. You can get his health to zero, you just need to swap Rosespanner Gregor out for LCCB Ishmael.
I am not sure if this strat has an established name already, but to me this gives me the analogy of powdered milk. First, you have the count and then add the potency with the support passive. An artificial team composition feeling, but it does the same thing as a proper rupture team would or even better.
You haven't achieved full enlightenment if you're still using characters without Gluttony defense skills (sorry Meursault, hope Fanghunt Hong reduces the jank factor)
Used him cuz Gluttony S2 and doesn't eat count. Speeds up the rupturing process too, but yea, using someone else with gluttony defense would make the process more consistent
@@Smis1337 Yes but if you legit just use 5 characters with Gluttony defense skills (still two slots for Rodion) against Barber, you will achieve the same turn count. The shit you can get away with is crazy. Even against Distorted Heath and Time Ripper, you only lose like a turn for way more consistency
Potential Woman unleashed her full potention in just 3 (+) weeks meanwhile Potential Man had to wait months for people to realize he even had a potential.
just need lantern don and then my rupture team will finally be peak... also seeing her hit 800 is insane, most i get in regular use is ~200 since i cant get full effectiveness + shes level 35
Since deyvyat rodion released i wonder where the video about someone using talisman sinclair as passive and goes all green ressonace team??? Even tho i am not a rupture player but singking player (going to bleed team for the salooon outis OwO) have feeling sinclair talisman passive will be OP
Couldn't you have used LCCB Isshy instead of Chainsaw Gregor? You'd have to reset but you could possible pull off S3 last on Turn 1 then just defense Turn 2 and onwards? Less consistent but higher pay-off (access to high count + potency turn 1)
I guess I can work with this being the better rupture than cringe restarting (also I think 7 heath instead of rosespanner could be useful for damage turn since he has 4 coin gluttony skill)
NGL i don't really like the direction they're going with Rupture. It's starting to feel like Rupture IDs are not going to inflict Rupture anymore and instead just get two billion damage modifiers. Both Devyat Rodya and Cinq Meursault straight up lose all their Rupture infliction as soon as the stack is started....
I mean, that's how PM found how to "balance" Rupture out. Have these high DPS units stop contributing to stacking potency for great raw (and true) damage and count neutrality. And, honestly, i'm all for it.
This might be a dumb idea, but what if they implemented new rupture types like tremor. Maybe it could take 2 hits before going down by 1 count or something.
A couple, just to get lantern don S2 turn 1 and Meursault S2 turn 2. You can make it more consistent if you bring someone with a gluttony defensive skill instead of Meursault
Shrimple tailsman applies a rupture potency multiplication based on the count in the enemy When you activate a greed resonance of 4 or more So you get your whole team of about 6 actions to apply 12 tailsman that multiply the count by rodion deyvat and you start doing big damage Since deyvat has the highest speed on the team due to her haste she kills most enemies immediately
I still think bleed stacking is more reliable and quicker on average But rupture if you can get this resonance will evaporate everything in the game in seconds
Even if the enemy had 0 count on them before, using Rodion's S3 with the minimum of 8 Talisman guarantees a stack of 16 Potency and 3 count. Which juuust so happens to be enough to fulfill Meursault and Rodion's conditions
@haryok8940 looked at the id's closer both conqsalt and devyat dont consume count when you have so much rupture but talisman allows them to continue applying it
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Rosebanner Gregor: What is my purpose in life...?
Potential Woman: You are green
I said alone ramp...
Well at least the new honglue id has glut skill one
@@azeria1 This man is -2/-2/-4 on high rupture
BENCH NOW
@azeria1 But new Hong Lu doesn't have a Glut guard, and his skills actively don't give Rupture (while still consuming it) after there is a certain amount of it.
@BrookOPW green green why you go ramp? Me say alone ramp me say alone ramp
I keep saying this to everyone
The reason why Rupture Supports are in a weird state, and why Gluttony is such a rare skill nowadays
Its Red Sheet Sinclair fault, he broke the game
He really did... We love true damage
The fault lies with Sinclair this time
Why didn't PM just nerf him like they did to LCCB ryoshu
@@puenboy1because the lccb Ryoshu passive wording could be interpreted as what it currently is. The pre-nerf state was, according to PM, unintended. Meanwhile, as broken as it is and how much PM probably wishes to change it, the current Talismanclair probably works as originally intended
I feel it's also why there hasn't been many IDs that give a ton of Rupture count by comparison to other statuses (like Ring Outis for Bleed or Zwei W. Sinclair and Yurodivy Ryoshu for Tremor). Since they know that most bosses will get melted in a few (not including phase transitions) due to the pure damage nature of Rupture (don't need to worry about resistances like Sinking or Tremor).
Rupture was always a strong statues, probably one of the best in the game but held back by the amount of hoops you have to jump through to get to that point.
Barber: that boy sinclair can give rodya talisman now, huh…? I better stay my ass in la machaland or I’m cooked!
talisman sinclair on that 12th deployment slot: "Stand proud Barber, you're strong"
Just imagine a world where TalismanClair doesn't exist and we have actual Rupture teams and diverse rupture supports/gimmicks instead of one guy literally carrying an ENTIRE status on his back.
he'll always remain main rupture core, even in death, forever
This is why I wish they had the balls to nerf/change IDs/EGOs sometimes, kinda like how they changed lccb ryoshu's support passive a while ago. It just boxes out room for creativity because one wrong move and rupture will be the best status effect for every single fight
@irritatingperson7882 unfortunately, for legal reasons they can't. Something to do with people gambling for something then it getting changed.
but we have actual rupture teams
lol. lmao. @@cereal8193
put some respect on the name (of sinclair talisman)
Talisman Sinclair carrying rupture even in death
Rupture will FOREVER be mid....
@@S0me_Ind1vidualNah rupture number one stat (im delusional)
@@S0me_Ind1vidualRupture haters trying to come up with reasoning as to why 99 pot on turn 3 is bad
you were, but now you know that first impression deceives
Based, rupture is super fun
Devyat Rodion is also the core of my rupture team, whether she retreats or not
Redemption arc of every player that thought rupture was useless
Save Rupture Society... Talismanclair...!
Who is Talisman Sinclair to you?
CinQ Meursault: Never seen him before but I have heard about him
Deyvat Rodion: Without him, I probably wont make it this far.
Latern Don: I heard that his feats could even bring rupture back, and I didnt doubt it at all.
Rosepanner Fixer Gregor: His definitely a core asset to our team.
*All: All I can say is that.*
*All: He is the strongest support*
Devyat Rodion:lend me some of your talismans, Red Sheet Sinclair
This is Base Time ripper we've up against
The classic, time-tested rupture core of Rodya, Don, Jerma, Gluttony Bug, Sinclair's corpse on the sidelines, and Polu.
You fiddled the riddle! You did it!
This is why I tell people Rupture *can't* stack like any of the other status effects, because THIS is the end result. This was in STORY too, no EGO Gifts!
As long as this can get consistently set up... why would you use anything else? You might use Sinking if the enemy is Gloom weak/fatal, Tremor Reverb or Time Moratorium if it's Sloth weak/fatal... But being able to put out THIS is exactly why Rupture IDs don't clash well and don't get Count easy. They killed the Barber in 4 turns, MINUS 2 SINNERS.
I'm not a Rupture hater, I enjoy Rupture units, but lets be real here. PM has to work AROUND the fact Rupture doesn't have to play fair when they are balancing fights. Burn is capped at 99 per part, and the other sources of status damage (Tremor - Reverb, Time Moratorium, Dark Flame, Sinking) are atleast typed or come with other downsides (Tremor - Reverb teams can accidentally knock it off with Tremor - Superposition, if enemy isn't staggered or resists Sloth then Time Moratorium gets far less effect, enemies can resist Pride and Magic Bullet Outis has teamkilling issues if not given proper attention, enemies can resist Gloom and Sinking deals no damage to enemies with SP unless you have Sinking Deluge ready)
im so glad rupture gave up on being a status to double down into being talisman Sinclair
The enemy when they see you apply 5 talisman onto them and now they have 99 rupture potency:
I love TalismenClair but this fight definitely showcased the power of rodion talismen support for me. Being able to have neutral count for (almost) every single skill for 2 strong IDs is so absurdly strong for consistency and we could never have that before - even ids like seven Faust and heath who were our best before had -2 count skill 1s.
PROJECT MOON! GIVE SINCLAIR A BETTER RUPTURE ID SO WE CAN USE SOMETHING OTHER THAN TALISMAN, AND MY LIFE IS YOURS!
That shit needs rupture effect that more broken than talisman cuz that things carries most of rupture.
no
They need to make like a support passive that when clash win inflict 2 or 3 rupture count
@@Unknown----------11 no rupture is already broken as it is
From what I gathered, using CinqSault makes the fight faster since he can contribute to rupture procs without messing up the 15x3 condition BUT less consistent (needs to reset a lot). Substituting him with other IDs that has gluttony defensive skills makes it more consistent BUT makes fight slower since Devyat Rodion and sometimes NomNom Don are the only ones using their skills while the rest are just defending. Also, having 4 instead of 5 sinners is much better because you should give 2 slots to CinqSault/NomNom Don since their skills help proc rupture much faster as you need to end fights asap before the boss kills you.
Ah yes, Talisclair once again being one of the most cracked IDs in the game...
Enough time has passed
**Hands you a Deyvat Rodya apology form for you to sign.**
Get to work :3
I slept on rupture so hard. I only just recently remembered talisminclair. Until then, I was wondering why they couldn't add more count to rupture to let the stack grow, I didn't know it could grow so fast with that. Now that I remembered his existence, zayum. They holdin rupture back for a reason
The Devyat Apology Tour, across content creators and the Redditors who just immediately parrot whatever they say without thought, continues, and I absolutely love it. 😊 🎉
The maximum amount of coins you can throw out in 1 turn with this is 19. At 99 potency, that's 1881 damage from rupture alone. Ricardo ends his fight at 1882 HP.
Ricardo is now mortal. You can get his health to zero, you just need to swap Rosespanner Gregor out for LCCB Ishmael.
Meh I think the fight is gonna end by script as always
(But oh how I want to see someone test this..)
I take back every insult i threw at rupture. My bad king talisman sinclair, didnt know you were carrying rupture alone 🙌
I am not sure if this strat has an established name already, but to me this gives me the analogy of powdered milk. First, you have the count and then add the potency with the support passive. An artificial team composition feeling, but it does the same thing as a proper rupture team would or even better.
Giving 2 slots to dev rody for talisman turns is insane LOL good one
You haven't achieved full enlightenment if you're still using characters without Gluttony defense skills (sorry Meursault, hope Fanghunt Hong reduces the jank factor)
Used him cuz Gluttony S2 and doesn't eat count. Speeds up the rupturing process too, but yea, using someone else with gluttony defense would make the process more consistent
@@Smis1337 Yes but if you legit just use 5 characters with Gluttony defense skills (still two slots for Rodion) against Barber, you will achieve the same turn count. The shit you can get away with is crazy.
Even against Distorted Heath and Time Ripper, you only lose like a turn for way more consistency
Man. That's lame.
Holy shit Gantifador from Angela's Library.
Hello, Smis "Limbus" Fraud, I'm glad you was enlightenment to finally see how good 9 Rodya is
Now fill your apology form
It all makes so much sense now
gregor there just to eat in the background
He's enjoying his coffee. "No creamer, huh? You really care..."
Potential Woman unleashed her full potention in just 3 (+) weeks meanwhile Potential Man had to wait months for people to realize he even had a potential.
nonbeliever absolutely humbled, gg
never thought id see the day rupture was meta
Rupture only got TWO new IDs and can pull off insane damage numbers now in no time at all
"Look what they need to mimic a fraction of my power." © Talisman Sinclair
tak pohuy na damage
tak pohuy na damage
It's bit funked up but there's a three turn clear in korea
I been using deyvat rod since release after i see how good she roll even outside of rupture comp
peak rodya gameplay
carrying rupture even in death thank god tailsman sinclair
I never doubted her 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
just need lantern don and then my rupture team will finally be peak...
also seeing her hit 800 is insane, most i get in regular use is ~200 since i cant get full effectiveness + shes level 35
Since deyvyat rodion released i wonder where the video about someone using talisman sinclair as passive and goes all green ressonace team???
Even tho i am not a rupture player but singking player (going to bleed team for the salooon outis OwO) have feeling sinclair talisman passive will be OP
What in the Rupture
wtf... Rodya is now usable so peak
That’s rlly cool actually
Wait, Dieci's goated?
Rupture needs more they said...
You need more carrots
deyvat apology form
Smis realization
YEAH 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Couldn't you have used LCCB Isshy instead of Chainsaw Gregor?
You'd have to reset but you could possible pull off S3 last on Turn 1 then just defense Turn 2 and onwards? Less consistent but higher pay-off (access to high count + potency turn 1)
I guess I can work with this being the better rupture than cringe restarting (also I think 7 heath instead of rosespanner could be useful for damage turn since he has 4 coin gluttony skill)
yeah but his gluttony skill is a third one so it's harder to achieve talisman passive
ruptures ur organs
NGL i don't really like the direction they're going with Rupture. It's starting to feel like Rupture IDs are not going to inflict Rupture anymore and instead just get two billion damage modifiers.
Both Devyat Rodya and Cinq Meursault straight up lose all their Rupture infliction as soon as the stack is started....
I mean, that's how PM found how to "balance" Rupture out.
Have these high DPS units stop contributing to stacking potency for great raw (and true) damage and count neutrality. And, honestly, i'm all for it.
me when they have a fully rupture neutral unit and i dont think its broken (surely i dont have brain damage)
Whats the full benched team? I want to try building this team myself
it was red sheet sinclair, all 4 7assoc members, lcb ryoshu, tingtang hong lu, and lccb ishy
main important one though was just sinclair...
i would like to see this tech on ricardo
What Talismans do to a mf
How do we feel abt Hongrupture new unit kit reveal,,?
Wished he had gluttony defend, he's mega rupture negative with his conditions up
This might be a dumb idea, but what if they implemented new rupture types like tremor. Maybe it could take 2 hits before going down by 1 count or something.
have any thoughts about the new fanghunt office hong lu? i saw that he was apparently rupture.
Wait were supposed to use red sheet as a support unit and not actually use him?
Were there re-tries?
A couple, just to get lantern don S2 turn 1 and Meursault S2 turn 2.
You can make it more consistent if you bring someone with a gluttony defensive skill instead of Meursault
Wait.. can anyone tell me how does this work?? My feeble mind cannot process this
Shrimple tailsman applies a rupture potency multiplication based on the count in the enemy
When you activate a greed resonance of 4 or more
So you get your whole team of about 6 actions to apply 12 tailsman that multiply the count by rodion deyvat and you start doing big damage
Since deyvat has the highest speed on the team due to her haste she kills most enemies immediately
I still think bleed stacking is more reliable and quicker on average
But rupture if you can get this resonance will evaporate everything in the game in seconds
I was just wondering, but why didn't you use Tailsclair and leave him as support? Is there any reason?
that way the IDs that don't reduce count can keep adding potency via the talismans
he clashes vry low and setting him up is very tedious they thought that using the passive would be more consistent and ez
99% stop using devyat before hitting true damage
I assume they're all UT4?
Ut5 lv50 yea
@@Smis1337ut 5 released? les goo
@@Smis1337UT5? Holy shit...
Doesn’t 7 outis have a gluttony guard? Or is her hp too high for this team to really work
The strat is to leave her at level 45, so that Rodion still has more HP.
So how many resets did you need :)
Like 5 minutes worth of resets, not a lot at all
CURSE YOU RUclipsRS!!!!! I SLEPT ON DEVYAT AND NOW SHES UNOB!!!
...she's an S0 ID.
@@Dan-bn4nm ill beat ur ass
I don't understand. What's going on?
tested in railway?
are they all UT4?
You probably can leave Mersault at UT3
Perhaps you have to revist a lot of units who you thought were frauds huh?
Maybe Molar Sinclair is tremor goated...
@@Smis1337 ok don't get too much deluded with that, you literally have zwei WEST sinclair that does the same thing but better
less better, more like doesnt has dogshit rolls for half of skills
wow... the team is good WHEN YOU HAVE THE COUNT!! WOW!!
1 (one) lantern don S2
Even if the enemy had 0 count on them before, using Rodion's S3 with the minimum of 8 Talisman guarantees a stack of 16 Potency and 3 count. Which juuust so happens to be enough to fulfill Meursault and Rodion's conditions
@@gantifandor7593PM new all along what they were doing...
How much rupture???
Why is rupture count not going down on hit?
Its either skill that apply count, or just Cinqsault
@haryok8940 looked at the id's closer both conqsalt and devyat dont consume count when you have so much rupture but talisman allows them to continue applying it
@@advbassdrop3956 Yeah, I forgot about Rodya also not consuming it