HOW IMPORTANT IS CANON FOR STAR TREK?
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- Опубликовано: 10 мар 2024
- Welcome back to One Trek Mind and today we are going to be discussing the thorny issue of canon and how important it is to us when it comes to Star Trek. We will be discusisng Discovery's obvious canon breaks along with discussing where changes were good and where it relaly wasn't...
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Canon is absolutely important, in everything! How can anyone even ask?
How important? To older fans, canon ranges from somewhat to very important. To younger viewers, "Cannons? In space? What are you talking about?"
Michael: I'm curious what is defined as young or older fans. I'm 30 so was fully around for most of the Legacy series but didn't become a fan until a couple of years ago which I think by default makes me a younger fan or viewer. And canon is firmly in the somewhat important category for me. Hated the klingon redesign in Discovery and the Gorn redesign in Strange New Worlds, but very much am okay with changing the colors of phasers to red rather than orange. Less okay with them looking like blaster bolts or being blue when they are on stun.
@@OneTrekMind Hello Michael, I like that you took my bit of silliness riffing on the words canon and cannon and went into serious mode. I specifically used "older fans" and "younger viewers" for reasons backing said silliness.
As to your question, I would personally consider an "older fan" as somebody that has had Star Trek in their lives since the Kirk era. But I do not specifically mean "older people." Anybody could start with TOS, move onto Next Gen, and have a feel for "how things work" in universe. But again, that's just a personal definition made up on the spot.
For the record, I, like you, feel that phaser beams are not blaster bolts and should not be, despite my personal issues with beams (OK, you missed. Just sweep the beam to the side, darn it!)
I originally had issues with TNG's bumpy Klingons but got over it with head-canon before the explanation came. Tweaks to lore don't bother me all that much. Not unless a newer show decides, "well, you see, how it REALLY is and always has been is actually..." because the writers want to do something that is contrary to what been shown before so they can tell their story, not specifically a Star Trek story.
I think ST canon has been somewhat flexible in the past - they changed the look of some species and took some time to establish things like James Kirk's middle name and the order of stardates.
Some changes haven't worked IMO. The spore drive gets the ship into the action more quickly certainly but it loses the tension of the ship racing at high warp to wherever it is needed, also losing the opportunity for the crew to have conversations as they prepare rather than having them as the story climaxes and losing tension there. Just one example.
Raptor: Thank you for leaving an actual comment and not just disco hate ^^ And yeah i agree the missing 'warp time' for character interactions is defo a thing. It always felt to me that the spore drive was an answer to the question 'how can we make the episodes more action heavy'
No show breaks canon like Doctor Who.
Raptor: I havent seen doctor who since matt smith took over.
If you're a Senior Exec at Paramount Pikchures, it's apparently not one damned bit. :pile_of_poo:
I think Cannon is important to any story because . Why I think we are the producers of Star Trek discovery went wrong. They should've have it take place in the kelvin universe because they could've did all the same things without backlash from the fans they could
Raptor: or just start it in the 32nd century to start with. I agree with you its more kelvin than prime trek for sure
Michael: Completely agree placing that show in the Kelvin universe would have alleviated almost all the issues people had with it.
The whole prequel idea is stupid and and nobody should make a prequel TV series.
Michael: I think prequels can be done but best to avoid characters that are already established. House of the Dragon is a prequel and is fantastic, mostly in my opinion because it avoids using any characters from the original series and gets to do its own thing for the most part.
if you even have to ask this you are not a true fan
Raptor: We are asking the question generally. I believe canon is very important but also personal
personally I think the bastardization of the franchise to fit certain narrative/message is abhorrent. It was and is completely unnecessary to cram current political and social issues into trek at all. They could have literally done anything else there is so much lore that could have been used but no they didn't do that and now look at the state of the franchise. @@OneTrekMind
@@leadmustang1337current social and political commentary has been part of Star Trek since the beginning and it was designed to be that way by its creator. The topics and approach may have changed over decades but the ethos of commentary has not.
Michael: Gatekeeping who is a true fan and who isn't by posing a vaild question is an odd way to look at it. If someone likes a thing then they are a fan of it, and we at no point said canon is NOT important in the video. It's just a common practice in literally any franchise to change or alter canon to varying degrees and we wanted to create some discussion.