Yeah I honestly barely remember the HBK 2018 match at all, and while I'm obviously aware that it was God awful I refuse to let literally one match on a show that I didn't even watch ruin my favorite wrestlers WWE career, especially when his entire 2002-2010 run was served as sort of a redemption arc for all of HBK's behind the scenes problems that ran from 1993-1998
I look back at Benoit's career with sadness. The toll it took on him, and ultimately his family, is horrifying. I hope there are lessons to learn here, and that the industry will learn from this horrible incident.
What Chris Benoit did should be seen as a hard take about addiction depression and mental health. It was horrible but it should be taught as a lessons learned and not swept under the rug. He's still one of the best ever it's just sad that he went out like he did. Please get help before you fall too deep
Nah, we shouldn't act like this was even slightly normal. People are addicted, depressed, or suffering from a number of mental health issues, all the time. They don't murder their whole family. Maybe it shouldn't be swept under the rug, but we shouldn't act like this is even remotely common.
@@kennyhudson9201 no one said anything about it being common or normal. I said it shouldn't be swept under the rug. His contributions to wrestling and the tragedy are both important stories that should be known.
@@geoffreytasker2097 Yes, and by giving it attention you are then treating it as common or normal, which it is not. The tragedy IS NOT important, because it is not common. Why should we give attention to, and even WORSE, act like the sick actions of a very rare mind are important. There is NOTHING important about what he did. NOTHING. Not one bit. Most people with damaged brains don't murder their families. So don't blame the damaged brain, blame the sick, very rare, weirdo who was not important. Wrestling is not important and his contributions are not important. If no one ever mentioned him again, the world would be no different.
@@kennyhudson9201 that's not how anything works... Things don't just disappear just because you don't talk about it. This is why we have so many social issues that go ignored in this country, people would rather act like something never happened than address the issue. He was sick, on roids, suffering from multiple concussions, and lost his best friend, which cut him so deep, everything got worse. The fact that he killed his family is terrible, what is important are the facts that led up to it and how they were not addressed. Concussion protocols changed in the WWE because of him. The flying headbutt is a banned move because of him, Wellness policy became that much more important because of him. All that, and yet,We don't know what steps if any the WWE took for him before he did what he did. we don't know if he showed any signs. Because the WWE and people like you would rather pretend it never happened by ignoring it. What this does is allow the company to make changes without any accountability on what brought about said change. Any new rule at a job usually has a story behind it and people deserve to know.
For Rick and Shawn: A few bad matches only tarnished their retirements. And Rick tarnished his legacy when he tried to sue WWE for Becky Lynch being called The Man
Sad thing is David Benoit said in an interview with Chris Van Viet that he thinks his dad will definitely be in the WWE Hall Of Fame and when Chris asked David “what like in 40-50yrs time?” David replied “No in the near future” so he thinks it won’t be long before WWE put Chris Benoit in the Hall Of Fame. I know he loves his dad and still worships him but I’m really surprised that he thinks a publicly traded company would celebrate him after what he did
I get Perry Saturn’s inclusion but it should be noted that later on he saved a woman from being sexually attacked by some guys, getting shot in the process and falling into an addiction as a result. That, in my book, more than makes up for what he did to Mike Bell
There cannot be a wrestling fan on earth who believes HBK wrestling that one terrible match post-retirement "ruined his legacy". Regrettable, sure. But he is still seen as one of the very best ever.
It wasn't "legally BS", as his employer WWE was in the right. He should have told them about the allegations, it was a betrayal of the legal bond between WWE and the rapist.
@@patrickbernard6640 ring work is the easiest thing a wrestler can improve, its having that natural charisma and mic work that is hard to learn and some like enzo just have it naturally
Did that say Hogan and flair wrestled in ROH? Because that's simply not true. Hogan was never even in ROH, and Flair never wrestled there, he was just a brief "ambassador" role.
For Ric Flair it was a retirement from the WWE stipulation. So wrestling anywhere else doesn't matter. Also, Jimmy Superfly Snuka killed somebody, so did Marty Jennety.
Did you go to the police since you are so sure about the murders? Good thing our justice system isnt runned by people sitting at home behind their computer.
No one ever includes the part of Benoit’s story where he suffered extreme brain damage from repeated chair shots to the head, which was most likely why he went nuts.
Especially in that case, "ruined" is a far too harsh Just because somebody decided to wrestle again past his prime doesn't mean that all of what he had done before is ruined or forgotten. One "mistake" doesn't undo everything that came before.
@@stephanhuebner4931 It doesnt ruin it but it does tarnish it. He went out there for money. thats really it. Im sure he was forced by WWE. aka no morals or standards. not to mention it was fucking Saudi Arabia. You know. TERRORISTS.
When u have 10,000 great matches like Shawn one bad match won't kill your legacy. His nickname is and will always be Mr. Wrestlemania one bad match won't change that
I still remember watching as a kid Eddie Guerrero and when he passed away I remember watching that show where everyone cried and talked about him, and seeing Chris Benoit so hurt by it, then seeing what he did, was awful, he could never recover after loosing Eddie, but I still remember his great matches and watching him destroy everyone that's the Benoit I wish to remember
Saturn doesn't belong on this list for one reason... What he did outside the ring. After being fired, Saturn chanced upon an encounter in a dark ally involving a firearm-weilding attacked an his female victim. This wasn't a purse snatching. Despite knowing the attacker was armed, and he wasn't; Saturn jumped in to prevent an *R.* (And, you all know what that letter stands for.) He saved her, but got several holes put into him. Saturn himself pulled off a miracle surviving that encounter. Ended his wrestling career. And now, his wife takes care of him in their home. They rely on donations.
Sexy star comes to mind. From being one of the lead faces of Lucha underground and a title holder in AAA she shot on an opponent and became persona non grata everywhere
As far as I remember the DX Vs BoD match, then HBK was the standout performer in the match. He even did a moonsault from top turnbuckle to outside the ring. Also crowd was going bonkers for him. So I don't see any negative impact on his legacy from that one match.
I would like a list like this that's purely wrestling related, like Michaels and Flair in this video. Randy Savage returning to TNA comes to mind, and honestly, Jericho's current run, would come to mind.
Celebrate the work, not the man. I was a fan of the behemoths. Kane, Taker, HHH, Stone Cold. But then one day came The Radicals. They intensity Eddie and Chris brought to matches. Just the sheer talent and art of wrestling in their matches. THAT'S professional wrestling. So, Chris' work should not be deleted from history. However, I think from a more academic perspective (wrestlers in training).
WWE and McMahon need to acknowledge the Benoit tragedy because they need to acknowledge their part in creating a peak condition athlete, with the brain of an 80 yr old Altzhiemers patient.
Ok chill the hell out, Shawn didn't at all ruin his legacy so much so as the memory of his retirement. Dude has a thousand great moments and was (like him or not) a revolutionary in the business. One trash old man match that no one should have had any expectations for isn't enough to ruin his legacy.
I hardly think a couple of poorly booked or worked matches are enough to ruin the legacies of past-their-prime superstars like Goldberg, Shawn Michaels, Undertaker, or Ric Flair. The worst that I can ascribe to them is they simply can't get enough of the squared circle, even though they can't perform like they used to. Can't blame them for trying though. 🤷
@@theupliftchannel Who knows why Ric Flair made the dumb decision to once again decided to come out of retirement and wrestle on the Indies scene? All us fans know is that it is a bad decision.
Yeah Shawn didn’t ruin his legacy at all. It’s not even a big a deal bro. Yeah he came back and did a match and it was terrible SO WHAT ?? 🤦♂️ at the end of the day he thought he was doing the right thing and admitted he should’ve never came back. Did a match with his legendary partner against a legendary tag team and that’s it. WrestleMania 26 will always be his last match 🙏
On the note of Hannibal, I used to train a little bit and one of my classmates wrestled a match against Hannibal as blood hunter. Ended up hitting my buddy with a hotel chair not your typical folding chair and busted him open badly. Ended up confusing the guy and he had to get stitches
Yeah I always thought people give Shawn too hard a time… the match wasn’t a part iii to his career… just a one off he was still retired when he wrestled that match.
How old was this video? It says 4hours ago, but it talks about Ric flairs upcoming last match which happened months ago and Enzo is a regular at MLW. I am so confused
It's very noticeable how far whstculture has fallen. Prime example is this video. The thumbnail, the inclusion of two names that oddly feel out of place in this list are only tricks to get some cheap views.
Chris Benoit will be number 1. A great career, world champion, rumble winner, grand slam n one of the best submissions. World class in ring ability, is so shame n unfortunate n hurtful of the actions that happen. I wish Eddie never pass away just maybe they both be here.
The fact that HBK's match was in Saudi and we all know that means big money simply doesnt touch his career and to be honest most poeple have probably forgotten that match ever happened i mean even WWE treat it like a house show when it comes to titles changing hands ie it simply doesnt happen coz no1's watching it I also dont honestly know why Benoit even given the time of day on video's like this , Yes he was 1 of the best in the ring , Yes he was known as a true gentleman to fans/kids etc when not at "work" BUT that was all undone the moment he murdered his wife and child
The 2011 HOF is frustrating to watch now. Sunny looked great and seemed humble after getting herself (apparently) back on track in around 2007. 2012, it all came crashing down again...
I really don't think Shawn Michael belongs on this list, yes the JC match was bad. But, it's something you can easily just pretend it didn't happen. For me, it doesn't take away from his retirement or just how amazing he was in the ring. For Ric Flair I the the allegation of SA on the "plane ride from hell" ruins his legacy more than one bad match.
What's he do on twitter? I'm not American and I don't really follow that many wrestlers, I assuming it's political stuff given he's.. what is it? Mayor? Premier? Idk what you guys call it lol.
Everyone can bitch about JBL and others being too rough with new guys, but how much backstage drama happened when Wrestler's Court was still enforcing the rules? You can just look at AEW and all the backstage crap that happens to see how it goes when nobody is there to stop it.
Hard to take this list seriously at all when you start it with a HOFer who is still employed by the company is on camera frequently. JBL’s career and reputation is far from ruined. It gets even dumber bringing in Michael’s and Flair. Come on guys.
IMHO HBK ruined his legacy with the Montreal Screw-job. The way he treated the great Bret Hart was way beyond disgusting. Michaels was in on it 100% (watch Wrestling With Shadows and/or DSOTR if you don't believe me). Felt almost as sorry for the ref (who was put in a very awkward spot by VKM after promising Bret he wouldn't shaft him) as I did for Bret. Also, the way HBK treated Dax Harwood was f__king woeful.
I have to say, it feels really distasteful to include bad matches, while the rest have actual crimes. Feels just wrong to include them on this list because of that.
I must be the only 1 who only likes Bradshaw with the APA, both ability and actually looking like a legitimate badass. Could still pushed him to win the title but the JBL was crap
To say SM tarnished his legacy for one match Is honestly sad and the fact you use that for views shows what this channel has become fake wrestling fans using wrestling for views
I wouldn't say Michael's legacy was ruined. I get it was a bad match and he regrets it but to act like that negates EVERYTHING he has done before is a huge reach when there's folks on this list who have legit committed heinous acts lol liken entry #1
I know this is going to sound bad. But it's time to allow Chris Benoit to be mentioned again. Think of Chris Benoit as the wrestler who enjoyed a moment with Eddie Guerrero. Not the one who murdered his family due to addiction and trauma. I personally believe that he drank and did drugs during the time of the crime, and those led him to do it. I don't think he was in control of himself.
@@vDeadbolt We dont seem to feel that way about the guys from the NFL who are in Canton 1 of which drove head on into traffic. CTE clearly effected his decisions its not the same
Not sure how a couple of terrible matches has got Michael's and Flair on a list alongside assaults, DUIs, racism and murder.
Some talk about their wrestling legacy others look at the overall human
Because Psy is a dickhead and crops on wrestling in all his videos
My issue is how his bad matches are listed as the reason his legacy is ruined and not the sexual assault allegations
Just a joke, I mean no offense. When you watch those matches, it feels like I'm being assaulted.
You seriously believe Ric Flair And Shawn Michaels haven't driven drunk? yeah right.
Yeah I honestly barely remember the HBK 2018 match at all, and while I'm obviously aware that it was God awful I refuse to let literally one match on a show that I didn't even watch ruin my favorite wrestlers WWE career, especially when his entire 2002-2010 run was served as sort of a redemption arc for all of HBK's behind the scenes problems that ran from 1993-1998
He was decent in this match, the others were bad.
@@gtredz That's true
I look back at Benoit's career with sadness. The toll it took on him, and ultimately his family, is horrifying. I hope there are lessons to learn here, and that the industry will learn from this horrible incident.
@Jermaine Anthony It just feels like there is a lot more to learn.
@Jermaine Anthony If Vince ruined Baron Corbin's push because he called him out about concussion protocol then they have much more to learn
@Jermaine Anthony ok.
C.Benoit might not have done it.
@Jermaine Anthony that's what I do...
What Chris Benoit did should be seen as a hard take about addiction depression and mental health. It was horrible but it should be taught as a lessons learned and not swept under the rug. He's still one of the best ever it's just sad that he went out like he did. Please get help before you fall too deep
Agreed! He was clearly seriously mentally unwell.
Nah, we shouldn't act like this was even slightly normal. People are addicted, depressed, or suffering from a number of mental health issues, all the time. They don't murder their whole family. Maybe it shouldn't be swept under the rug, but we shouldn't act like this is even remotely common.
@@kennyhudson9201 no one said anything about it being common or normal. I said it shouldn't be swept under the rug. His contributions to wrestling and the tragedy are both important stories that should be known.
@@geoffreytasker2097 Yes, and by giving it attention you are then treating it as common or normal, which it is not.
The tragedy IS NOT important, because it is not common. Why should we give attention to, and even WORSE, act like the sick actions of a very rare mind are important. There is NOTHING important about what he did. NOTHING. Not one bit. Most people with damaged brains don't murder their families. So don't blame the damaged brain, blame the sick, very rare, weirdo who was not important. Wrestling is not important and his contributions are not important. If no one ever mentioned him again, the world would be no different.
@@kennyhudson9201 that's not how anything works... Things don't just disappear just because you don't talk about it. This is why we have so many social issues that go ignored in this country, people would rather act like something never happened than address the issue.
He was sick, on roids, suffering from multiple concussions, and lost his best friend, which cut him so deep, everything got worse.
The fact that he killed his family is terrible, what is important are the facts that led up to it and how they were not addressed. Concussion protocols changed in the WWE because of him. The flying headbutt is a banned move because of him, Wellness policy became that much more important because of him. All that, and yet,We don't know what steps if any the WWE took for him before he did what he did. we don't know if he showed any signs. Because the WWE and people like you would rather pretend it never happened by ignoring it. What this does is allow the company to make changes without any accountability on what brought about said change.
Any new rule at a job usually has a story behind it and people deserve to know.
For Rick and Shawn: A few bad matches only tarnished their retirements.
And Rick tarnished his legacy when he tried to sue WWE for Becky Lynch being called The Man
Don't forget those sexual assault allegations.
@@vDeadbolt so he really was “Kissin the girls and makin em cry”
I really don't think Michaels ruined his legacy with that match only his retirement match did
In the world of entertainment, you are never retired. The second money knocks the door, you prepare because show must go on.
In the words of the million dollar man everybody has a price
But in the world of entertainment, the money typically comes from fans. With WWE in bed with oligarchs, they have sold what little soul they had left.
R.I.P Moppy 🪦
the hero we all deserved
Who's that???
@@lisamariegreenaway8693 a mop,
Moppy we hardly knew you
JBL attacking The Blue Meanie was his end for me
True but I'm still glad they didn't mention it for the millionth time on WC
To be fair he called jbl a bully so to prove his innocence he beat the balls off blue meanie.
That CJ match with Shawn never happened. According to me. WrestleMania 26 was his last match in my book.
Even if you acknowledge it one bad match for cash isn't going to make everyone suddenly forget his entire career.
HBK vs Venom in 2000 also never happened. But It was still a pretty good match
what match??
How long ago was this written if they're talking about Ric Flairs last match being in the future? Finger on the pulse I see...
Facts
Probably a re-up for copyright reasons.
To be fair, he has said he also wants to have yet another match.
@@gfear24 God spare us..
Sad thing is David Benoit said in an interview with Chris Van Viet that he thinks his dad will definitely be in the WWE Hall Of Fame and when Chris asked David “what like in 40-50yrs time?” David replied “No in the near future” so he thinks it won’t be long before WWE put Chris Benoit in the Hall Of Fame. I know he loves his dad and still worships him but I’m really surprised that he thinks a publicly traded company would celebrate him after what he did
I get Perry Saturn’s inclusion but it should be noted that later on he saved a woman from being sexually attacked by some guys, getting shot in the process and falling into an addiction as a result. That, in my book, more than makes up for what he did to Mike Bell
Michaels didn’t ruin his legacy just had a bad match
Shawn had a good match, everyone else struggled
Ruined his legacy by not staying retired after saying he would and THEN having a bad match
@@rickd1296 nah it’s not a big deal
@@rickd1296 plenty of people come out of retirement we just don't hear about it much
There cannot be a wrestling fan on earth who believes HBK wrestling that one terrible match post-retirement "ruined his legacy". Regrettable, sure. But he is still seen as one of the very best ever.
Shawn never had that match, it was all a fever dream.
Enzo was beyond fire. It's a real shame that he was let go for something that was legally BS.
Enzo and Cass were the most entertaining tagteam promo out there since new age outlaws
It wasn't "legally BS", as his employer WWE was in the right.
He should have told them about the allegations, it was a betrayal of the legal bond between WWE and the rapist.
Enzo was trash in the ring but his mic control was epic..
@@patrickbernard6640 ring work is overrated.
@@patrickbernard6640 ring work is the easiest thing a wrestler can improve, its having that natural charisma and mic work that is hard to learn and some like enzo just have it naturally
Did that say Hogan and flair wrestled in ROH? Because that's simply not true. Hogan was never even in ROH, and Flair never wrestled there, he was just a brief "ambassador" role.
For Ric Flair it was a retirement from the WWE stipulation. So wrestling anywhere else doesn't matter. Also, Jimmy Superfly Snuka killed somebody, so did Marty Jennety.
Did you go to the police since you are so sure about the murders? Good thing our justice system isnt runned by people sitting at home behind their computer.
No one ever includes the part of Benoit’s story where he suffered extreme brain damage from repeated chair shots to the head, which was most likely why he went nuts.
"Sunny... Biggest ho... Nastiest ho... Dirtiest ho... I could go on..."
- Charles "The Godfather" Wright
Talk about different standards in the WWE for men and women...
@@stephanhuebner4931 he was asked this question during a shoot interview. The question was “Biggest Ho in the locker room?”
@@Evs78101 Ah, okay.
1 bad match from Shawn after a 10 year retirement get over yourselves. He is the goat
Shawn gets a pass in my book. 🤷
He still pulled off the moonsault to the floor, no matter what he says...
Especially in that case, "ruined" is a far too harsh Just because somebody decided to wrestle again past his prime doesn't mean that all of what he had done before is ruined or forgotten. One "mistake" doesn't undo everything that came before.
@@tomseville2345🎯
@@stephanhuebner4931🎯
@@stephanhuebner4931 It doesnt ruin it but it does tarnish it. He went out there for money. thats really it. Im sure he was forced by WWE. aka no morals or standards. not to mention it was fucking Saudi Arabia. You know. TERRORISTS.
When u have 10,000 great matches like Shawn one bad match won't kill your legacy. His nickname is and will always be Mr. Wrestlemania one bad match won't change that
Saturn saved a woman from being raped and was shot. His legacy is fine
I choose to only think about Benoit's career from Wrestlemania 20 and before. Cause it was most certainly Eddie's Death that sent him over.
I still remember watching as a kid Eddie Guerrero and when he passed away I remember watching that show where everyone cried and talked about him, and seeing Chris Benoit so hurt by it, then seeing what he did, was awful, he could never recover after loosing Eddie, but I still remember his great matches and watching him destroy everyone that's the Benoit I wish to remember
Saturn doesn't belong on this list for one reason... What he did outside the ring.
After being fired, Saturn chanced upon an encounter in a dark ally involving a firearm-weilding attacked an his female victim. This wasn't a purse snatching. Despite knowing the attacker was armed, and he wasn't; Saturn jumped in to prevent an *R.* (And, you all know what that letter stands for.) He saved her, but got several holes put into him. Saturn himself pulled off a miracle surviving that encounter. Ended his wrestling career. And now, his wife takes care of him in their home. They rely on donations.
Jbl looks like an older John cena in a suit. 😂😂
Sexy star comes to mind. From being one of the lead faces of Lucha underground and a title holder in AAA she shot on an opponent and became persona non grata everywhere
You’re right, I forgot about her. I suppose since she didn’t wrestle for WWE, it goes under the radar a bit more
"gearing up" for Flair's last match? If you're gonna record the audio for a vid then sit on it for almost a year, rerecord some updates.
Flair is coming out of retirement again
Did you say Flair wrestled Hogan on an ROH-Show?!
I already clicked here knowning Benoit would be number 1.
As far as I remember the DX Vs BoD match, then HBK was the standout performer in the match. He even did a moonsault from top turnbuckle to outside the ring. Also crowd was going bonkers for him. So I don't see any negative impact on his legacy from that one match.
All 4 of them were horrid that match
Your memory is way off. That match was horrendous for all 4 of them.
I would like a list like this that's purely wrestling related, like Michaels and Flair in this video. Randy Savage returning to TNA comes to mind, and honestly, Jericho's current run, would come to mind.
Celebrate the work, not the man. I was a fan of the behemoths. Kane, Taker, HHH, Stone Cold. But then one day came The Radicals. They intensity Eddie and Chris brought to matches. Just the sheer talent and art of wrestling in their matches. THAT'S professional wrestling. So, Chris' work should not be deleted from history. However, I think from a more academic perspective (wrestlers in training).
Abdullah scared the shit out of me as a kid.
WWE and McMahon need to acknowledge the Benoit tragedy because they need to acknowledge their part in creating a peak condition athlete, with the brain of an 80 yr old Altzhiemers patient.
It amazes me how PC the company has become yet they fail to see how dirty they are to this day about certain things. It’s bonkers.
Ok chill the hell out, Shawn didn't at all ruin his legacy so much so as the memory of his retirement. Dude has a thousand great moments and was (like him or not) a revolutionary in the business. One trash old man match that no one should have had any expectations for isn't enough to ruin his legacy.
Sunny “bounced around” good one
I hardly think a couple of poorly booked or worked matches are enough to ruin the legacies of past-their-prime superstars like Goldberg, Shawn Michaels, Undertaker, or Ric Flair. The worst that I can ascribe to them is they simply can't get enough of the squared circle, even though they can't perform like they used to. Can't blame them for trying though. 🤷
So, this is a very late upload? Ric Flair's last match?
Yeah some time this summer Ric Flair will have one definitive final match on the Indies under Jim Crockett Promotions
@@derrickhaggardjeez. Why? 🙄😭
@@theupliftchannel Who knows why Ric Flair made the dumb decision to once again decided to come out of retirement and wrestle on the Indies scene? All us fans know is that it is a bad decision.
@@theupliftchannel because his last last match ever sucked! He can't go out like that
@@SychoSam so he’d rather die in there instead? I wish he’d go somewhere and sit down. At this point it’s not about his legacy. It’s about his life.
Yeah Shawn didn’t ruin his legacy at all. It’s not even a big a deal bro. Yeah he came back and did a match and it was terrible SO WHAT ?? 🤦♂️ at the end of the day he thought he was doing the right thing and admitted he should’ve never came back. Did a match with his legendary partner against a legendary tag team and that’s it. WrestleMania 26 will always be his last match 🙏
Shawn Michaels legacy is still fully intact… he had a few bad matches after he retired… that’s it.
Yeah coming out of retirement to put on a show for terrorists and a huge pay check isnt bad at all. Thats a man of high moral standards
@@Greengoblin420-69 Loser.
@@TheDeviantPro Id rather be a loser with morals than literally take money from terrorists you moron.
@@Greengoblin420-69 Keep crying, loser.
@@Greengoblin420-69
You put gas in your car so you are funding the same country, terrorist
How old is this? Yes it was a short run but JBL was back to WWE recently
On the note of Hannibal,
I used to train a little bit and one of my classmates wrestled a match against Hannibal as blood hunter. Ended up hitting my buddy with a hotel chair not your typical folding chair and busted him open badly. Ended up confusing the guy and he had to get stitches
HBK's legacy is just fine...
Who cares about the blood moneyyyyyyyyy
I don’t believe Michaels ruined his legacy with one match. He took a huge payday, we all would have done the same thing.
Yeah I always thought people give Shawn too hard a time… the match wasn’t a part iii to his career… just a one off he was still retired when he wrestled that match.
Michaels ruined his legacy with the Montreal screwjob and countless other diva actions during his run in the WWE.
I wouldn't.
@@SimpaticoReal🤣🤣🤣 Ah that was a good laugh.
Blood money. Its literally blood money.
I like the instrumental in the background, anybody know what song this is?
HBK did definitely NOT ruined his legacy by this ONE MATCH.
Sunny's life story is just one long series of tragedies.
Flair did not wrestle Hogan in ROH
How old was this video? It says 4hours ago, but it talks about Ric flairs upcoming last match which happened months ago and Enzo is a regular at MLW. I am so confused
I think they sometimes make videos out of old lists on their website
How one bad match supposebly RUINES a 20 year legacy is baffling. They probably just put HBK in there to have somebody in the Thumbnail
I disagree with michaels he was the only 1 in that match that held his own
It's very noticeable how far whstculture has fallen. Prime example is this video. The thumbnail, the inclusion of two names that oddly feel out of place in this list are only tricks to get some cheap views.
Chris Benoit will be number 1. A great career, world champion, rumble winner, grand slam n one of the best submissions. World class in ring ability, is so shame n unfortunate n hurtful of the actions that happen. I wish Eddie never pass away just maybe they both be here.
They want to sweep it under the rug because they are partly responsible.
@@Greengoblin420-69 facts
@@Greengoblin420-69 exactly he didn't get CTE from nothing.
@@kaylafaith4429 never did Foley but atleast he didn't kill his family
@@christophercurtis5007 neither *
Agree with above comments - Michaels - Saturn - and Abdullah out…
Snuka - Dream and Vince in…
9:45 how old is this? this is before ric flairs last match happen? dam slow editors
Chris Benoit was my guy as well smh
Is there going to be a part 2 to this video?
Great video
Seeing as I didnt know for almost 6 months Michaels was in that match ans he was still the best of the worst im pretty sure hes forgiven.
The fact that HBK's match was in Saudi and we all know that means big money simply doesnt touch his career and to be honest most poeple have probably forgotten that match ever happened i mean even WWE treat it like a house show when it comes to titles changing hands ie it simply doesnt happen coz no1's watching it
I also dont honestly know why Benoit even given the time of day on video's like this , Yes he was 1 of the best in the ring , Yes he was known as a true gentleman to fans/kids etc when not at "work" BUT that was all undone the moment he murdered his wife and child
Wait Hulk Hogan was in ROH? I thought it was the Hulkamania Australia Tour not Ring of Honor.
Ricky "the dragon" Steamboat is another one. You could probably do a part 2.
How did Steamboat tarnish his legacy?
@@theupliftchannel by murdering his girlfriend
@@marymarney3843 that was Jimmy Superfly Snuka. Not Ricky The Dragon Steamboat
@@theupliftchannel that's right. Sorry
I would replace Shawn Michaels with Velveteen Dream!!!
WhatCulture out here tryin to ruin their own legacy with months old news and shitty lists
The 2011 HOF is frustrating to watch now. Sunny looked great and seemed humble after getting herself (apparently) back on track in around 2007. 2012, it all came crashing down again...
She broke up with her boyfriend then all went downhill for her
I really don't think Shawn Michael belongs on this list, yes the JC match was bad. But, it's something you can easily just pretend it didn't happen. For me, it doesn't take away from his retirement or just how amazing he was in the ring. For Ric Flair I the the allegation of SA on the "plane ride from hell" ruins his legacy more than one bad match.
Kane should be on this list, just a downhill from the Corporate Kane character to THAT saudi match and his twitter shenanigans
What's he do on twitter? I'm not American and I don't really follow that many wrestlers, I assuming it's political stuff given he's.. what is it? Mayor? Premier? Idk what you guys call it lol.
@@Millyyy95 He is mayor of Knoxville county in Tennessee I think it is.
Everyone can bitch about JBL and others being too rough with new guys, but how much backstage drama happened when Wrestler's Court was still enforcing the rules? You can just look at AEW and all the backstage crap that happens to see how it goes when nobody is there to stop it.
It's much better without bullies.
What about Jimmy Snuka?
You mean the man who was never
found guilty of anything? Sure 🙄
Kurt Angle Left the Chat 😏
Hard to take this list seriously at all when you start it with a HOFer who is still employed by the company is on camera frequently. JBL’s career and reputation is far from ruined.
It gets even dumber bringing in Michael’s and Flair. Come on guys.
The Ric Flair segment has me very confused... Was this recorded prior to that horrible PPV?
Why does that woman sound like a man in my what culture videos?? 🤔😳
Cm punk is the definition of this
Benoit is in episodes on Peacock.
IMHO HBK ruined his legacy with the Montreal Screw-job. The way he treated the great Bret Hart was way beyond disgusting. Michaels was in on it 100% (watch Wrestling With Shadows and/or DSOTR if you don't believe me).
Felt almost as sorry for the ref (who was put in a very awkward spot by VKM after promising Bret he wouldn't shaft him) as I did for Bret.
Also, the way HBK treated Dax Harwood was f__king woeful.
The Montreal Screwjob was Bret's fault
I wouldn't say one or two bad matches ruin the legacy of some of the greatest wrestlers of all time. Talk about hyperbole.
I have to say, it feels really distasteful to include bad matches, while the rest have actual crimes. Feels just wrong to include them on this list because of that.
Stop saying "pun unintended" or "no pun intended" when you clearly wrote that for your script to make a pun
I must be the only 1 who only likes Bradshaw with the APA, both ability and actually looking like a legitimate badass. Could still pushed him to win the title but the JBL was crap
Psy, did you also right write this shiet? 🤦🏼♂️Gawd!
Edit: oh, this is a re-upload. Maybe you’ve gotten better.
If you told someone that Hogan was banned for being racist the average person again in the 80s would ask "and?"
Oh man if only we knew before that last flair match lol
background music name please...????
Flairs last match was ages ago, why is this video just being posted?
To say SM tarnished his legacy for one match Is honestly sad and the fact you use that for views shows what this channel has become fake wrestling fans using wrestling for views
I wouldn't say Michael's legacy was ruined. I get it was a bad match and he regrets it but to act like that negates EVERYTHING he has done before is a huge reach when there's folks on this list who have legit committed heinous acts lol liken entry #1
I know this is going to sound bad. But it's time to allow Chris Benoit to be mentioned again. Think of Chris Benoit as the wrestler who enjoyed a moment with Eddie Guerrero. Not the one who murdered his family due to addiction and trauma. I personally believe that he drank and did drugs during the time of the crime, and those led him to do it. I don't think he was in control of himself.
JBL didnt destroy his own legacy. He ended up going into The HOF in 2021.
12:20 yep, I sitll love the wrestler and his matchs
The Benoit tragedy is awful there is no way around but I hope before I pass he gets in the WWE HOF
Who would've guessed that Saturn sadly became his gimmick. I don't really mean disrespect but that's what happened
Never liked JBL. Always had a feeling that him being an asshole was more than just kayfabe
That Saudi Arabia debacle was the worst match i ever saw.
It bothers me that people still refuse to acknowledge the Benoit tragedy was due to CTE and now because he was a homicidal lunatic.
Sometimes things aren't a person's fault, but they are responsible. This happens all the time.
CTE and Steroids caused him to do it, but it's not an excuse. He knew what he was doing.
@@vDeadbolt We dont seem to feel that way about the guys from the NFL who are in Canton 1 of which drove head on into traffic. CTE clearly effected his decisions its not the same
I can usually seperate the art from the artist unless they, you know... kill a child.
Glenn Jacobs aka Kane should also be on this list