Not to mention the settlement buildings which recently got huge increases in their FP payout. Nothing better than doubling up the 80 plus FP of my maxed Sun Temple
The seed vault is genuinely not trash, not good but deserves more appreciation especially after you're a set player. Hopefully more players take notice so I can get some prints
Depending on your world I'd be happy to send a friend request. I have 3 friends who have Seed Vaults (amd one who is working towards getting theirs) and we all need more BPs. I'm in East Nagach.
@@Luum81 Not sure if you are still actively looking for SV BPs, but I am in East Nagach and plan on building mine in the coming week. Let me know if you are still on and I will make space in my friends list. Game name is RottenHopless
With GvG gone, QI in and the intro of the new Titan age - all of it's GBs giving boosts and one offering guild goods, you might have to do a new upgrade video - also, they are making more changes to GBG soon, which include the blue military sooo, yeah, there's that too.
Seed vault is underrated. Sure it is rare to find its bps so most people cannot take it to its sweet spot. If you have connections that can reliably provide you with sv bps, no other building in this game comes close to it as far as diamond farming goes. As this video also mentioned. Very detailed video btw! Great job 👏
My favorite has to be the Blue Galaxy. I have mine up to level 68 right now. Besides the average of around 200 extra daily forge points it gives me, all the goods and medals, it makes things a lot easier. Besides a barracks and a few supply buildings I have for event quests, my entire city is GB and Event Buildings. And yes, it doubles the diamonds I get from my Crow's Nest when that comes up.
Space Carrier is great for diamond farms, except it takes so long to do those negotiations every day. It's also almost impossible to consistently do all your negotiations every day, especially if your Space Carrier is level 91. You will need a combination of Guild Expedition and Guild Battlegrounds, which is even more work for a diamond farm. At least until you reach the Space Ages. So if you have a big diamond farm that you have aged up to Space Age Mars and you need a lot of Shrink Kits to make it more efficient and you have the time to develop it even more, perhaps it would be worth building and leveling the Space Carrier. But it's super niche or super time intensive. At that point I'd rather give Inno my money. :D
Aiding 300 people per day is just as much work as spinning RQs. Also CF provides FPs while it produces goods, and is a BEAST for producing diamonds from story quests…. all of which is ignored in this video. 1/10
@@omensofruin3385 what is that nonsense? Diamonds from quest are one-time event Goods were literally mentioned in this video Seed Vault requires ABSOLUTELY ZERO efforts compared to CF, cause it's simply pressing 3 buttons DAILY, not like 1000 buttons for CF to make an effect And no, CF doesn't give you diamonds as long as you've achieved final Titan quests, there's literally none you can do about it, CF is simply one-time thing for diamonds, while Seed Vault is an endless possibility, dependings only from your friend list, pressing those 3 buttons and Seed Vault's level I agree, it was kinda problematic when you had to aid everyone by clicking every player, but it's long gone now, so Seed Vault, just as Blue Galaxy, is at least B-tier GB in my opinion, maybe even A-tier, considering how few of GB actually provides diamonds
@@omensofruin3385 I do have CF at level 80 and that's more than enough with 500% boost to feel its advantages, it's MAINLY for goods, diamonds, just as I said already - one-time action = it's not possible to get any more diamonds as long as you've finished quest line and completed all side/recurring quests Seed Vault, as showed in this video, is MAINLY for diamonds production, cause it's simple and it's highly underrated, here I agree
The tradeoff is that you can have a LOT of Wishing Wells (or the GE equal), or to a degree on Crows Nests - but only *ONE* Great Building of each type. And since diamonds are "per account", you can have lots of "wishing well cities" as secondary cities, adding a few to EACH CITY during each event (though some events only give you the chance at 1 per city, a couple have let you have the chance at half a dozen or more). On the other hand, Wishing Wells have been tougher to get over time, as the number per event drops down to ONE max for most events.
My main is in future, after seeing this I am going to delete my traz and add a seed vault. I don't loose troops with ~2000 attack and 1400 def buffed in GE or GBG or at least not enough to worry about. If I decide to age up I can always rebuild. Our guild is active, so I already have nice reserve of prints to get me to mid lvl. Thanks for sharing!
I love my seed vault. Level 115 and climbing. I’m going to get one in the mud in my second world. I am eager to watch your diamond farm video when you put it together .
Wow, good job! It was an amazing new perspective. I just thought you'd consider medals in te analysis as well, since they are useful for GvG, PvP, the Expedition and for buying expansions. Then, the Arc would obviously win, I guess. Anyway, the video kind of proves Notre Damme and Coliseus were mistakes! 😂
I probably wouldn't include the Arc for medals, since it doesn't produce them (I didn't include it for FP either). With GB like the BG, you have a decent cap on buildings that produce a lot of FP. But with the Arc, it's just as many GB spots as you can take so it can vary widely.
I could have, but the problem with the Arc is that there's no limit for it to go on the chart. Since you basically spend free FP to get rewards back, it doesn't work well for a chart.
Out of interest are the break even times adjusted for getting rid of FP producing buildings? I'd be interested to see, for example, HS break-even point if replacing a 0.5fp/day building. Obviously this would make it a much more complicated chart if you tried to include too many values, but it might be nice to have a few
GBs are pretty much obsolete due to the new event buildings. This time last year my attacking trio provided about 30% of my attack boosts, now it’s not even 10% are they are at a decent level.
Hey, Great video and really nice comparisons. What about remaking this video with the new SAT GBs and switching the x-axis on the stats from levels to fps invested with 1,9.
Few great buildings are a bad choice. Just saying that for FP, for example, it's not the most efficient compared to other GB. But if you play a lot of the settlements, it could very well be worth it to have the FI in your city.
I didn't include them because those goods are unrefined goods past Modern Era. So for most players who no longer need unrefined goods, it's not too useful of a boost. I probably should have done a chart for unrefined goods though. Maybe if I do another video like this sometime :)
I'm really doubting the Seed Vault will produce this many diamonds. My SV is level 60 and I aid 200 people per day and it's only generated 50 diamonds in the last 2 months!
If you want to do the math, be my guest! For n number of wells, what's the average doubled per day? Because if there are more wells producing diamonds than BG attempts, those won't all be doubled. So it's not just 50 * BG charges * BG chance. Then calculate this for any number of wells for any level of the blue galaxy. I felt that was out of the scope of this video.
@@UBERnerd14 There is ways to loacate wich foy/wws that produce diamonds and handpick those with BG attempts Having 70% chance to double your diamonds makes sense any day of the week. But your right, its probably out of scope for this video and only applicable for a very few dedicated farmers.
Can you not use abreviations on the great buildings please? Im confused, I dont know what do BG, ToR, FI, etc mean. I will appreciate if you write the entire name of the great buildings pls, so we all can identify which building is which, in your graphs
Well, I can't edit the video, but you can check out: forgeofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Guide:Acronyms Most players abbreviate the names of great buildings and other aspects of the game, so learning them can be really handy :)
GE is now useless for accumulating diamonds. Only two opportunities in level 4 of 90 each and they are weighted to favour 20 forge points. A lot of time wasted getting to them as well with all the silly fragments of nothing gained along the way.
You actually have 3 encounters that can give 90 diamonds in level 4, each at 30% odds. That gives you an average of 4212 diamonds per year... which is a lot better than 0!
How many people do you aid daily? Even aiding the maximum number of players daily, with a level 100 SV, you're looking at only seeing diamonds every other day on average.
Your video is flawed. The Arc is the best GB in the game for forge points. Since forge points (not diamonds) is the main currency in the game, the Arc is the best GB in the game for any given circumstance.
But Arc cant or help produce Diamonds that helps you Open More diamond plots each Age. You can have all.the fp medals in the world, but pointless if you cant open more diamond plots for your city. Your Argument Arc is rhe best gb is kinda flawed too.
@@chinhoewong you get more than enough diamonds for plots by simply playing the game, recurring quests, story quests, WWs, FoY, GE, GVG etc. Either way, there are hard limits to the number of plots that you can place and I reiterate, diamonds are not the currency of the game, forge points are. A big Arc can give you anywhere between 1500-5000 forge points per day, depending on how active you want to be. With that many forge points, you can get any of those less useful GBs that you like and push them to whatever level you like too.
FP are the most powerful currency for leveling GB, but can't be used for anything else really. Diamonds can be used in place of every other currency, and most importantly, to buy expansions and extra event buildings. Expansions are the rarest resource in the game, and event buildings are what you'll be filling them with. Diamonds also carry over to other worlds. If the game was only about leveling GB, then yes, FP would be first and foremost. But the return on investment for FP only diminishes, while diamonds always stay useful. At the end of the day though, you can play the game however you want and disregard my opinions :) I didn't include the Arc on the FP chart because there's too much variance in how many FP/day you can get, as generating profit takes a lot of work of scanning for snipe-able spots, or leveling your Arc higher than 80 to get profit via 1.9 threads (which is a small pittance of FP anyways).
@@UBERnerd14 one only needs to take a look at the list of the largest GBs for any server to see that more people agree with me than you w.r.t. which GB is the most important to get to the highest levels first. Most top GB spots on the servers are dominated by level 180 Arcs. Players only start pushing their AO and CF to those levels AFTER Arc and there's a reason for that. To address your concern about time, it takes me less than half an hour, twice per day to snipe my hood with my level 184 Arc. Compare that with half an hour, every 4 hours for GBG to get a fraction of the FPs and that's only available if you are in a top guild and are immune to arthritis from all that clicking. One can actively or passively camp 1.9x threads for more profit. A single spot on the right GB can give you 150FPs profit in one go. Try pushing your CC to level 150 for the same FPs, it isn't worth it and you have the graphs to prove it in your video. One can delete all their other GBs other than Arc and get them back up to a reasonable level in a few months without missing them very much. Try deleting Arc then doing the same and you would be in a bit of a pickle. The Arc is the most game changing GB that Inno came up with. When you get to Arc 80, you are playing a different game since you are now able to participate in 1.9x threads without losing FPs. Level 90, you get a few extra FPs, Level 100, the FPs start to get interesting. Level 110, the Arc starts paying for itself. Level 120, you're probably making more from Arc than from collection. Level 130, you start wondering if you're cheating or if the game is broken Level 140, you're sure that the game is broken Level 150, greed. Level 160 god mode enabled. Level 170, there are no other gods before you. Level 180, you've basically finished the game. Anything over that is just to show off since you get no extra bonus. The Arc is a weapon of financial destruction to your hoodies and the touch of gold to your guildies and friend list if you're using it properly. No other GB comes even remotely close to it in power. You are free to disagree with me if you like but then you'd be wrong and as I mentioned above, most of the top players on the servers will agree with me,
I think you're still missing the point. Diamonds trump FP. Sure, the Arc is great, but FP can only be used to level other GB, which has a worse and worse return on investment the more you level. Diamonds stay always valuable and always useful, as they can be used for most everything in the game. It's relatively easy to get more FP. It's much harder to get more diamonds. Also, I'd argue that most people don't utilize the Arc for sniping, but rather as a way to participate in 1.x threads. Sort of like how most people with the CF don't loop quests. Their best bonuses aren't what they produce, but rather depends on how you utilized them, and that will be different for each player.
That's the problem though, isn't it? You can't put a number on the diamonds you can get from the CF, and it is extremely dependent on where you are in the game and how you plan on playing. That's the same reason I didn't include the Arc for the FP section - how do you quantify sniping profit?
@@UBERnerd14 You can quantify the diamonds produced by CF if you want to put in the work. The wiki provides info about of all the quests for each age. Some quests provide diamonds, some provide random rewards, where you would need to multiply by the probability of producing diamonds, and then there's the RQs for each age where you can obtain diamonds from all of them (once of course). Then, since you would know the potential diamonds produced from quests in each age, you could determine the potential diamond yield depending on a player's current age by simply giving a sum of diamonds for the remaining ages.
Leaving Arc off the list of FP GBs is another mistake. It's potentially the largest source of FP in the game, by far. You omit it just because the amount can't be quantified? Poll some people who invest at less than 1.9 to see how many FPs we typically yield per day. In my case it's around five thousand.
Per the CF - these charts represent great buildings by the amount of resources they produce per level in a set timespan. So yes, while you could tally all the quest diamonds (and include ranges for where you choose different options, etc), in terms of diamonds per day, it matters heavily how fast you're moving through those ages. If you want to spend several hours working through the data - be my guest! Let me know the results. Per the Arc - again, how can you quantify this per level? Not only your profitability, but also your ability to take snipes increases as you level, but it's also dependent on how many FP you have on hand to take all the snipes (though I suppose you could assume infinite bank). Quite frankly, sniping with the arc isn't limited by the arc level, but by your bank and the amount of people you can snipe, which isn't something that would work with how I'm presenting data in this video.
@@UBERnerd14 All right. I don't agree, but I respect the logic behind the decision, and understand it's difficult to make general recommendations. Maybe it's better to keep some secrets anyway.
My seed vault got possessed by Belial and now seed vault has a thirst for digiblood! If you don't respect the vault beware! Seeds of Evil vault! But Eff, Oh, Eeee has gotten to be not so Goose! If you catch my drift...All Hail ⛧ The Evil Dead Seed Vault ⛧
The Blue Galaxie just got so much better with the new event buildings, it ist crazy.
Not to mention the settlement buildings which recently got huge increases in their FP payout. Nothing better than doubling up the 80 plus FP of my maxed Sun Temple
The seed vault is genuinely not trash, not good but deserves more appreciation especially after you're a set player. Hopefully more players take notice so I can get some prints
Depending on your world I'd be happy to send a friend request. I have 3 friends who have Seed Vaults (amd one who is working towards getting theirs) and we all need more BPs.
I'm in East Nagach.
Leveling mine in Korch
@@Luum81 Not sure if you are still actively looking for SV BPs, but I am in East Nagach and plan on building mine in the coming week. Let me know if you are still on and I will make space in my friends list. Game name is RottenHopless
@@craigbickley Wonderful, I am still on and still looking. I'll do a search for you. Game name Marjoram Blackstump.
@@Luum81 Ok Luke, I have now built the SV and have space available in my friends list if you are keen to pick up some more BPs
With GvG gone, QI in and the intro of the new Titan age - all of it's GBs giving boosts and one offering guild goods, you might have to do a new upgrade video - also, they are making more changes to GBG soon, which include the blue military sooo, yeah, there's that too.
That was a surprisingly high quantity of information, high quality too!
Was waiting for this one !
Every gbs I built this far was by lookin top players
Seed vault is underrated. Sure it is rare to find its bps so most people cannot take it to its sweet spot. If you have connections that can reliably provide you with sv bps, no other building in this game comes close to it as far as diamond farming goes. As this video also mentioned. Very detailed video btw! Great job 👏
If you are in East Nagach I will happily add you on as a friend.
Thank you Luke sadly my only city is on korch
@@payam7748 No worries, you never know if you never ask. Have fun!
My favorite has to be the Blue Galaxy. I have mine up to level 68 right now. Besides the average of around 200 extra daily forge points it gives me, all the goods and medals, it makes things a lot easier. Besides a barracks and a few supply buildings I have for event quests, my entire city is GB and Event Buildings. And yes, it doubles the diamonds I get from my Crow's Nest when that comes up.
Thx for the Video mate. Im hyped for a diamond farming town video. :D
Very good video for new players! I play this game for 3 years but still very good video 😄
Space Carrier is great for diamond farms, except it takes so long to do those negotiations every day.
It's also almost impossible to consistently do all your negotiations every day, especially if your Space Carrier is level 91. You will need a combination of Guild Expedition and Guild Battlegrounds, which is even more work for a diamond farm. At least until you reach the Space Ages.
So if you have a big diamond farm that you have aged up to Space Age Mars and you need a lot of Shrink Kits to make it more efficient and you have the time to develop it even more, perhaps it would be worth building and leveling the Space Carrier. But it's super niche or super time intensive. At that point I'd rather give Inno my money. :D
Still, for how difficult it is to get wishing wells at all, is argue that it would be worth having the SC for a while to build up a stock of wells.
Seed Vault is nice with how little work you got to do compared to the CF.
Aiding 300 people per day is just as much work as spinning RQs.
Also CF provides FPs while it produces goods, and is a BEAST for producing diamonds from story quests…. all of which is ignored in this video.
1/10
@@omensofruin3385 what is that nonsense?
Diamonds from quest are one-time event
Goods were literally mentioned in this video
Seed Vault requires ABSOLUTELY ZERO efforts compared to CF, cause it's simply pressing 3 buttons DAILY, not like 1000 buttons for CF to make an effect
And no, CF doesn't give you diamonds as long as you've achieved final Titan quests, there's literally none you can do about it, CF is simply one-time thing for diamonds, while Seed Vault is an endless possibility, dependings only from your friend list, pressing those 3 buttons and Seed Vault's level
I agree, it was kinda problematic when you had to aid everyone by clicking every player, but it's long gone now, so Seed Vault, just as Blue Galaxy, is at least B-tier GB in my opinion, maybe even A-tier, considering how few of GB actually provides diamonds
Clearly you didn’t maximize your CF and collect the diamond multipliers on story quests during your journey to Titan, or you’d have a different view!
@@omensofruin3385 I do have CF at level 80 and that's more than enough with 500% boost to feel its advantages, it's MAINLY for goods, diamonds, just as I said already - one-time action = it's not possible to get any more diamonds as long as you've finished quest line and completed all side/recurring quests
Seed Vault, as showed in this video, is MAINLY for diamonds production, cause it's simple and it's highly underrated, here I agree
Great breakdown, great info, great editing. Great video.
Honestly this is a very good video. Well done!
The tradeoff is that you can have a LOT of Wishing Wells (or the GE equal), or to a degree on Crows Nests - but only *ONE* Great Building of each type.
And since diamonds are "per account", you can have lots of "wishing well cities" as secondary cities, adding a few to EACH CITY during each event (though some events only give you the chance at 1 per city, a couple have let you have the chance at half a dozen or more).
On the other hand, Wishing Wells have been tougher to get over time, as the number per event drops down to ONE max for most events.
My main is in future, after seeing this I am going to delete my traz and add a seed vault. I don't loose troops with ~2000 attack and 1400 def buffed in GE or GBG or at least not enough to worry about. If I decide to age up I can always rebuild. Our guild is active, so I already have nice reserve of prints to get me to mid lvl. Thanks for sharing!
Nicely done, thank you.
I love my seed vault. Level 115 and climbing. I’m going to get one in the mud in my second world. I am eager to watch your diamond farm video when you put it together .
That's awesome! It's probably the single most underrated GB in the game right now (at least, in my opinion)
115? Well done indeed.
The same with "the new ones" please 🙂. Are Pegasus and Hydra worth it? Should I build Aachener Dom still?
Wow, good job! It was an amazing new perspective.
I just thought you'd consider medals in te analysis as well, since they are useful for GvG, PvP, the Expedition and for buying expansions. Then, the Arc would obviously win, I guess.
Anyway, the video kind of proves Notre Damme and Coliseus were mistakes! 😂
I probably wouldn't include the Arc for medals, since it doesn't produce them (I didn't include it for FP either). With GB like the BG, you have a decent cap on buildings that produce a lot of FP. But with the Arc, it's just as many GB spots as you can take so it can vary widely.
You get medals from Arc too btw. Just saying :p
@@CorbeauxThome I got what he means. DIRECTLY, you don't. But of course it helps around. Actually, we all know it's a must have.
@@foeassim he should have named it "The Best Great Buildings for ANY Circumstance in 2023 excluding Arc | Forge of Empires", that's all.
I could have, but the problem with the Arc is that there's no limit for it to go on the chart. Since you basically spend free FP to get rewards back, it doesn't work well for a chart.
Out of interest are the break even times adjusted for getting rid of FP producing buildings?
I'd be interested to see, for example, HS break-even point if replacing a 0.5fp/day building.
Obviously this would make it a much more complicated chart if you tried to include too many values, but it might be nice to have a few
What a great video. Thanks a lot!
GBs are pretty much obsolete due to the new event buildings. This time last year my attacking trio provided about 30% of my attack boosts, now it’s not even 10% are they are at a decent level.
I leveled the CdM before the CoA just because it gives back FP while providing attack boost.
Hey, Great video and really nice comparisons. What about remaking this video with the new SAT GBs and switching the x-axis on the stats from levels to fps invested with 1,9.
I'm working on an improved version, and I'll see if I can figure out a way to include that. Thanks!
Love my seed vault, underrated by everyone, while I think the Cape is overrated. If it would give a second boost I would build it like CdM
Loving those grafs
Things like the Nutcracker buildings make the Terracota Army and all others obsolete when it comes to pure army power.
CoA is rather bad at attack point pr field.
Im beginning to consider deleting it to make space for event buildings...
So... what your saying is a level 70 FI was not my smartest choice... Still looks nice I suppose
Few great buildings are a bad choice. Just saying that for FP, for example, it's not the most efficient compared to other GB. But if you play a lot of the settlements, it could very well be worth it to have the FI in your city.
What is the looping quest?
Update for SAT GBs please
What about supplies?
What about Rain Forest Project, St. Mark's Basilica, etc. for goods?
I didn't include them because those goods are unrefined goods past Modern Era. So for most players who no longer need unrefined goods, it's not too useful of a boost. I probably should have done a chart for unrefined goods though. Maybe if I do another video like this sometime :)
@@UBERnerd14, cool, thanks!
Any idea's / strategies for when all your available GB's are leveled to 100+ and you are still collecting more and more FP's each day?
Just level them higher, I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Make a good, help people
I'm really doubting the Seed Vault will produce this many diamonds. My SV is level 60 and I aid 200 people per day and it's only generated 50 diamonds in the last 2 months!
Mine is at 100 and I'm getting diamonds every few days. But that's the math ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Hmmm, my SV is level 26 in about 3 months and aid about 130 people/day and have gotten 150 diamonds that I've counted..
nice video
gold? and supplies
How many RQ you should do, daily, to reach 2k goods with Frontenac?
Depends on the level of your CF
@@UBERnerd14 lv 80 atm
You would need to *complete* 187 quests. That doesn't count the number of quests you would have to abort, however.
Guild battlegrounds give you everything.
If you have a decent amount of WWs (100+) then nothing compares to BG - but i suppose this video doesnt really take that option into accout.
If you want to do the math, be my guest! For n number of wells, what's the average doubled per day? Because if there are more wells producing diamonds than BG attempts, those won't all be doubled. So it's not just 50 * BG charges * BG chance. Then calculate this for any number of wells for any level of the blue galaxy. I felt that was out of the scope of this video.
@@UBERnerd14 There is ways to loacate wich foy/wws that produce diamonds and handpick those with BG attempts
Having 70% chance to double your diamonds makes sense any day of the week. But your right, its probably out of scope for this video and only applicable for a very few dedicated farmers.
Can you not use abreviations on the great buildings please? Im confused, I dont know what do BG, ToR, FI, etc mean. I will appreciate if you write the entire name of the great buildings pls, so we all can identify which building is which, in your graphs
Well, I can't edit the video, but you can check out: forgeofempires.fandom.com/wiki/Guide:Acronyms
Most players abbreviate the names of great buildings and other aspects of the game, so learning them can be really handy :)
I have SV lvl 100 and I'm getting 100 diamonds per month 😅 I'll probably delete it
how about medals
Just use your Arc to take spots on a 1.9 thread
2023 - and no mention of hydra or centaurus??
At the time this video was published, Space Age Titan had still not been released on Beta.
Sorry but how dose seed vault give you diamonds I don’t get how.
It gives random items when you aid, including coins, supplies, goods, medals, and diamonds! The odds of diamonds are small, though
@@UBERnerd14 thank you 👍
Chateau duh.
GE is now useless for accumulating diamonds. Only two opportunities in level 4 of 90 each and they are weighted to favour 20 forge points. A lot of time wasted getting to them as well with all the silly fragments of nothing gained along the way.
You actually have 3 encounters that can give 90 diamonds in level 4, each at 30% odds. That gives you an average of 4212 diamonds per year... which is a lot better than 0!
@@UBERnerd14 and you talking about only one world.. I have all 11 available worlds in my country that make about 50k diamonds per year only from GE
can we get this in writing to ? :p
Hopefully at some point. Might take a while for a write-up though
Or you could have a city on another server with 75 Wishing Wells and Fountains of Youth
True, but it's a lot easier to build a seed vault than it is to get 75 wells. Not to mention, it's easy to fit in any city, including your main.
I built a Seed Vault to level 80. I'm am not getting anywhere near the Diamonds stated. Don't waste your time!
How many people do you aid daily? Even aiding the maximum number of players daily, with a level 100 SV, you're looking at only seeing diamonds every other day on average.
You forgot population
Your video is flawed. The Arc is the best GB in the game for forge points. Since forge points (not diamonds) is the main currency in the game, the Arc is the best GB in the game for any given circumstance.
But Arc cant or help produce Diamonds that helps you Open More diamond plots each Age. You can have all.the fp medals in the world, but pointless if you cant open more diamond plots for your city. Your Argument Arc is rhe best gb is kinda flawed too.
@@chinhoewong you get more than enough diamonds for plots by simply playing the game, recurring quests, story quests, WWs, FoY, GE, GVG etc. Either way, there are hard limits to the number of plots that you can place and I reiterate, diamonds are not the currency of the game, forge points are. A big Arc can give you anywhere between 1500-5000 forge points per day, depending on how active you want to be. With that many forge points, you can get any of those less useful GBs that you like and push them to whatever level you like too.
FP are the most powerful currency for leveling GB, but can't be used for anything else really. Diamonds can be used in place of every other currency, and most importantly, to buy expansions and extra event buildings. Expansions are the rarest resource in the game, and event buildings are what you'll be filling them with. Diamonds also carry over to other worlds.
If the game was only about leveling GB, then yes, FP would be first and foremost. But the return on investment for FP only diminishes, while diamonds always stay useful. At the end of the day though, you can play the game however you want and disregard my opinions :)
I didn't include the Arc on the FP chart because there's too much variance in how many FP/day you can get, as generating profit takes a lot of work of scanning for snipe-able spots, or leveling your Arc higher than 80 to get profit via 1.9 threads (which is a small pittance of FP anyways).
@@UBERnerd14 one only needs to take a look at the list of the largest GBs for any server to see that more people agree with me than you w.r.t. which GB is the most important to get to the highest levels first. Most top GB spots on the servers are dominated by level 180 Arcs. Players only start pushing their AO and CF to those levels AFTER Arc and there's a reason for that.
To address your concern about time, it takes me less than half an hour, twice per day to snipe my hood with my level 184 Arc. Compare that with half an hour, every 4 hours for GBG to get a fraction of the FPs and that's only available if you are in a top guild and are immune to arthritis from all that clicking.
One can actively or passively camp 1.9x threads for more profit. A single spot on the right GB can give you 150FPs profit in one go. Try pushing your CC to level 150 for the same FPs, it isn't worth it and you have the graphs to prove it in your video.
One can delete all their other GBs other than Arc and get them back up to a reasonable level in a few months without missing them very much. Try deleting Arc then doing the same and you would be in a bit of a pickle.
The Arc is the most game changing GB that Inno came up with.
When you get to Arc 80, you are playing a different game since you are now able to participate in 1.9x threads without losing FPs.
Level 90, you get a few extra FPs,
Level 100, the FPs start to get interesting.
Level 110, the Arc starts paying for itself.
Level 120, you're probably making more from Arc than from collection.
Level 130, you start wondering if you're cheating or if the game is broken
Level 140, you're sure that the game is broken
Level 150, greed.
Level 160 god mode enabled.
Level 170, there are no other gods before you.
Level 180, you've basically finished the game.
Anything over that is just to show off since you get no extra bonus.
The Arc is a weapon of financial destruction to your hoodies and the touch of gold to your guildies and friend list if you're using it properly. No other GB comes even remotely close to it in power.
You are free to disagree with me if you like but then you'd be wrong and as I mentioned above, most of the top players on the servers will agree with me,
I think you're still missing the point. Diamonds trump FP. Sure, the Arc is great, but FP can only be used to level other GB, which has a worse and worse return on investment the more you level.
Diamonds stay always valuable and always useful, as they can be used for most everything in the game. It's relatively easy to get more FP. It's much harder to get more diamonds.
Also, I'd argue that most people don't utilize the Arc for sniping, but rather as a way to participate in 1.x threads. Sort of like how most people with the CF don't loop quests. Their best bonuses aren't what they produce, but rather depends on how you utilized them, and that will be different for each player.
Thumbs down. Diamonds? The best diamond-producing GB by far [for newer players] is the CF.
That's the problem though, isn't it? You can't put a number on the diamonds you can get from the CF, and it is extremely dependent on where you are in the game and how you plan on playing. That's the same reason I didn't include the Arc for the FP section - how do you quantify sniping profit?
@@UBERnerd14 You can quantify the diamonds produced by CF if you want to put in the work. The wiki provides info about of all the quests for each age. Some quests provide diamonds, some provide random rewards, where you would need to multiply by the probability of producing diamonds, and then there's the RQs for each age where you can obtain diamonds from all of them (once of course).
Then, since you would know the potential diamonds produced from quests in each age, you could determine the potential diamond yield depending on a player's current age by simply giving a sum of diamonds for the remaining ages.
Leaving Arc off the list of FP GBs is another mistake. It's potentially the largest source of FP in the game, by far. You omit it just because the amount can't be quantified? Poll some people who invest at less than 1.9 to see how many FPs we typically yield per day. In my case it's around five thousand.
Per the CF - these charts represent great buildings by the amount of resources they produce per level in a set timespan. So yes, while you could tally all the quest diamonds (and include ranges for where you choose different options, etc), in terms of diamonds per day, it matters heavily how fast you're moving through those ages. If you want to spend several hours working through the data - be my guest! Let me know the results.
Per the Arc - again, how can you quantify this per level? Not only your profitability, but also your ability to take snipes increases as you level, but it's also dependent on how many FP you have on hand to take all the snipes (though I suppose you could assume infinite bank). Quite frankly, sniping with the arc isn't limited by the arc level, but by your bank and the amount of people you can snipe, which isn't something that would work with how I'm presenting data in this video.
@@UBERnerd14 All right. I don't agree, but I respect the logic behind the decision, and understand it's difficult to make general recommendations. Maybe it's better to keep some secrets anyway.
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