Great info as always.I wont be worried about using a spacer anymore. !!! I tried 11 inch rear and 10 in front with 280/ 640/ 18 - 250/640 / 18 fronts yesterday on a OG M2, Required a 12 mm spacer on the front.
I totally agree. I keep "wanting" to do it, but then the more rational side of my brain kicks in... (not that being able to measure oil quickly and do topside oil changes isn't practical... dang it!)
I was thinking of purchasing the M235ir dipstick for my N55 M2 (not sure if the M235ir and M2 CS use the same dipstick since I think do share the same oil pan) until I watched your video. Good thing I watched it before buying it. But I definitely will be buying the front sway bar for my M2 since it seems like a bargain compared to aftermarket solutions.
You're right the CSR has brake conduits going to the knuckle area for cooling. I also think depending on the track set up they configure it differently. Maybe I'll make a video on the CSR's brake setup in particular. Thanks for the idea!
@@jmadoch one comes from the black funnels in the bumper, another from the stock M2C cooling ducts (OG does not have them, a third one use to come from the splitter holes but that seems to have been deleted. You can buy the funnels from various vendors to add them. The one from the stock location will not work unless you install steering angle limiters. Check AP motorsport they sell the whole kit for 3k or so.
In the EU and other markets the big 6 piston brakes were an option and the 4 piston blue brakes as on the OG and M3/5 were standard. So you could fit 18s no issue.
Unfortunately not. If I were I'd be enjoying the region's taxes though! It'd be great to have either no sales tax or no income tax (which is an easy 20% combined in Silicon Valley).
@@FaRKle0079 Do you know of any other dealers to order those parts? I refuse to do business with BMWNW (long story), and the other local dealerships cant order the parts. Now had two other online parts places say they cant either. Thanks!
@@FaRKle0079 so the lengths of them won’t be an issue either? Fronts are 62mm and the rears are 86mm. There’s no returns on then, hence why I wanna make sure before buying, as they’re a pretty penny as well 😂
@@Unholy_11 The length spec is how long the part of the stud is for the wheel side, not the hub side, so that shouldn't matter. The CSR uses REALLY thick spacers, which is why the studs are so long.
Folks, don't put spherical bearing suspension arms on your street car. The wear rate won't be different from other vendors. I would only assume it can be worse.
Is there anywhere I can find the actual spring rates these cars use ? I track my m2c and am curious to know what these guys use . Any help is appreciated
180-220 N/mm in front and 170-210 N/mm in the rear. Default is 200 N/mm front and 190 N/mm rear. Both have helper springs and the rear is a coilover. I don't think you'd want to run these rates on a street car, or easily be able to find dampers for them.
Nice vid! As to the 10.5 inch wheels up front they likely fit as the M2CSR has different steering angle stops to the M2C/S. See part number 32108431886. Wheels on a race car typically don’t have to turn much hence the wide wheels won’t rub at extreme lock positions. Not a great solution for street cars that have to parallel park lol.
Good find! It looks like you can probably put those stops on the street cars too since the main steering box/gear is the same. Although like you said, probably don't want to on a street car, haha. I wonder what the difference is between the tie rods though. Those aren't the same PN from street to CSR.
Bro. This is soo good. I crave this type of content. Im so sick of generic youtube tuning content. This is some proper stuff for us bmw enthusiasts
The content of your videos is outstanding.
Thank you for taking the time to share.
Great info bro! Many of us enthusiasts appreciate your info.
This channel has been so helpful. Your Thinkware U1000 guide really helped me out with figuring out everything I needed and your deep dives are great.
Great info as always.I wont be worried about using a spacer anymore. !!!
I tried 11 inch rear and 10 in front with 280/ 640/ 18 - 250/640 / 18 fronts yesterday on a OG M2, Required a 12 mm spacer on the front.
Awesome videos! Can you please do one on the F80 M3 CS?
great insightful video. damn, that dipstick is tempting. not worth losing the sensor tho.
I totally agree. I keep "wanting" to do it, but then the more rational side of my brain kicks in... (not that being able to measure oil quickly and do topside oil changes isn't practical... dang it!)
This is a great video, Thanks for all the information. Please also do same video comparison for M4 gt4 G82 compared to a M4/M3 and or M2 G87
Great video! Please also do same video comparison for f82 and m4 gt4.
I was thinking of purchasing the M235ir dipstick for my N55 M2 (not sure if the M235ir and M2 CS use the same dipstick since I think do share the same oil pan) until I watched your video. Good thing I watched it before buying it.
But I definitely will be buying the front sway bar for my M2 since it seems like a bargain compared to aftermarket solutions.
It definitely is a bargain! Mine just arrived yesterday. It's solid and very heavy.
Fantastic video. Thanks!
You’ll also need suspension for the wheels
Awesom!
Man this is so informative keep it up!
Nice video, what about front brake cooling? It looked like there was a hose on the front brakes that I don’t recognize.
You're right the CSR has brake conduits going to the knuckle area for cooling. I also think depending on the track set up they configure it differently. Maybe I'll make a video on the CSR's brake setup in particular. Thanks for the idea!
@@FaRKle0079 please do! Very interested in where the 2 additional ducts go on the csr
@@jmadoch one comes from the black funnels in the bumper, another from the stock M2C cooling ducts (OG does not have them, a third one use to come from the splitter holes but that seems to have been deleted. You can buy the funnels from various vendors to add them. The one from the stock location will not work unless you install steering angle limiters. Check AP motorsport they sell the whole kit for 3k or so.
@@aitormolina9943 Thanks!
Are the hub’s different? I have seen some gt cars with hubs that provide more camber in their cast design
Great information
Wouldn’t the CSR wheels also require an aftermarket BBK on the M2C? The stock BBK barely clear the 788 or 764s which are 19s.
You're right that up front you'd need a different caliper/rotor for the 18" motorsport wheels. They'll fit the stock rear caliper/rotor though.
In the EU and other markets the big 6 piston brakes were an option and the 4 piston blue brakes as on the OG and M3/5 were standard. So you could fit 18s no issue.
Seriously shopping list here thank you, and yes that front bar is on the top of my list. BMWNW link.. you here in the PacNW too?
Unfortunately not. If I were I'd be enjoying the region's taxes though! It'd be great to have either no sales tax or no income tax (which is an easy 20% combined in Silicon Valley).
@@FaRKle0079 ah ok.. 8)
@@FaRKle0079 Do you know of any other dealers to order those parts? I refuse to do business with BMWNW (long story), and the other local dealerships cant order the parts. Now had two other online parts places say they cant either. Thanks!
@@FaRKle0079 Monterey will do it.. but has an extensive 'race car only' waiver that must be filled out?! Is that your experience as well?
Great video man. Can the sway bars fit the OG M2?
Yup, the sway bars will fit the N55 M2 too.
awesome video!
Great video
Quick question, if you’ll know. They have the M2cs racing wheel studs, anyway will they fit rhe m2c?
Yup they'll fit.
@@FaRKle0079 so the lengths of them won’t be an issue either? Fronts are 62mm and the rears are 86mm.
There’s no returns on then, hence why I wanna make sure before buying, as they’re a pretty penny as well 😂
@@Unholy_11 The length spec is how long the part of the stud is for the wheel side, not the hub side, so that shouldn't matter. The CSR uses REALLY thick spacers, which is why the studs are so long.
Where's the clutch control?
Folks, don't put spherical bearing suspension arms on your street car. The wear rate won't be different from other vendors. I would only assume it can be worse.
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Is there anywhere I can find the actual spring rates these cars use ? I track my m2c and am curious to know what these guys use . Any help is appreciated
180-220 N/mm in front and 170-210 N/mm in the rear. Default is 200 N/mm front and 190 N/mm rear. Both have helper springs and the rear is a coilover. I don't think you'd want to run these rates on a street car, or easily be able to find dampers for them.
Where can I find M2 CS or M2 CS Racing parts catalog? Is there any website, like bimmercat?
offical bmw parts. I am looking at northwestbmw and they have the kit.
@@np7065 Yup! Here's the link to the ETK on their site: parts.bmwnorthwest.com/BMW_2020_M2-CS-Racing-Coupe.html
Nice vid! As to the 10.5 inch wheels up front they likely fit as the M2CSR has different steering angle stops to the M2C/S. See part number 32108431886. Wheels on a race car typically don’t have to turn much hence the wide wheels won’t rub at extreme lock positions. Not a great solution for street cars that have to parallel park lol.
Good find! It looks like you can probably put those stops on the street cars too since the main steering box/gear is the same. Although like you said, probably don't want to on a street car, haha.
I wonder what the difference is between the tie rods though. Those aren't the same PN from street to CSR.