m30's just reaaaally love that 18psi range! it seemed like mine picked up so much power from 14 to 18psi. for anyone else interested in m30 reliability on stock internals i ran my 2.8l m30 at 18psi for almost 2 years with a stock head gasket and stock head bolts before it blew the head gasket out because the bolts stretched, would definitely not recommend that on a b35. i put a cometic gasket and ARP studs and i've ripped it at 22psi ever since, i recently had the head off again because i broke a rocker arm which is probably one of the only mechanical weak points of this engine, and i could still see crosshatch in the cylinder walls on an engine with over 240,000 miles!
hey man just wondering why you don't recommend b35 stock head bolts and HG for that amount of boost? are they different from 2.8 to 3.5? or is it due to compression?
I think I own this motor/turbo now! Just had a 535i delivered from Colorado and previous owner sent me this video as reference. Needs some love in its current state, but hopefully can get it well sorted!
Love the channel and content, you guys keep up the great work! I feel you guys have allot of potential with this channel! This all takes me back to my e30 days!
That's amazing! I was going to just cut/o-ring the block while swapping up turbos to a new S362SX-E, instead of sticking with the good fresh OEM HG and ARPs that it already has on it... might just run it up to 14psi and see how long that HG lasts, now. Almost the same setup as this in an E30, so its crazy to see this. Just glad to get get away from my smaller CXRacing turbo, choking at 12psi, hahaha.
Run her to 17! She'll hold! Your turbo is bigger and has a larger exhaust housing so total flow will be around the same at a lower exhaust backpressure. Send it! She's good!
Yes it's possible but you will need more boost to get to this point. So run a t4 ball bearing turbo with an appropriately sized exhaust housing and you should be able to make the numbers and mitigate lag
I'm from Barbados and i'm currently building a e30 turbo m30 swap, i LOVE!!!!!!! the content on the m30, I can't get enough, I would love to source some ARP bolts and injectors for the build. Can you point me in an affordable direction?
Is it possible to create a ecu mapped and ship it? I’m building a cheapo e34 with a m30 and would love to turbo it but no one here in Ireland does that kinda tuning! A kit would be excellent!
ive had that same wireless keyboard for years lol i wanna see m54/m5x turbo / tuning stuff or you could do all the bmw engines you have by generation. like a series. start with oldest and go up.
It is cool that you can tune the factory ecu, but that aluminum block is just not capable of making big power. I haven't seen a whole lot of m54s making over 400whp. I would rather have an iron m50 based engine any day.
M30's are VERY overlooked... Check out the forums.. it's as if they were their own secret club, whom ever had one boosted... Too bad they're getting hard to find; as they were scrapped all over the place years ago.
I have a similar build! I'm having issues to tune it because my MS won't connect to my computer, I've been trying everything and researching everywhere and I can't get it to work, any pointers?
Awesome! Is it an M30B35? Could you get decent numbers running stock Motronic? I've got an M30B32 (Bosch L Jet) in my E24 and trying to figure out where to go from here. Would love to see 250-300hp with low boost on OEM computer/injectors since I daily drive my car (when Colorado lets me)
i would agree about steering clear of using L-jet. i did it, and made it work but it was a waste of time to be honest, i was using an adjustable FMU running who knows what pressure on 30lb injectors, i had to mechanically lock out the distributor advance to prevent pinging and the low end drivability sucked, i was running too much boost on an ebay turbo with an internal gate that was boost creeping. dont get me wrong it did make a lot of power lol. i went to a microsquirt setup with their ign 6 coil and quadspark ignition module.. it was easy to set up, but i had to use injector resistors because the l-jet used low impedance injectors. as well as get a trigger wheel from a motronic 1.3 car i dont believe megasquirt makes a plug and play module for the l-jet systems. if i remember correctly the whole setup for the ecu with wiring, coils, and ignition module was only like 800 bucks for everything i needed and tuning timing is critical when running boost
@@DENVERBEERANDOIL awesome thank you. gonna hit some of the yards around LA tomorrow and see what I come across. If i dont find anything ill set up a page monitor on the junkyard websites for any of dodge.
Awesome, I'm always going to this channel, when I want to see classic BMW stuff Will it be of any interrest, to do an aut to man swap on the E34 ? Cheers 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰
We don't know a green turbo? Only two black e34 m30 turbos on our channel... The green wagon is a v8 that is in the process of getting a supercharger ;)
I have an 87 E30 eta with 88K original miles. With a similar build (ARP studs, upgraded lash adjusters, ARP main & rod bolts), also going with megasquirt, what would you say is a safe-ish WHP?
I have an 88 Seta m20 with only ARP head bolts and it has been doing pretty well 440whp. I've broke a rocker arm, and blown 2 head gaskets as a result of losing the water pump belt, but the bottom end has had 0 issues.
If you really want to go crazy with your O-rings and "fire rings," hit up an oilfield O-ring supply company. These companies make hardened rubber O-rings capable of withstanding several hundred degree temperatures. Be sure to have your specifications ready (O.D. [Outer Diameter], I.D. [Interior Diameter], thickness, etc.) and beef up your internals and headgaskets if you're going to go nuts with boost pressures. Best of all, build that M30 from the ground up for turbos. There are turbo M30 engines that have made over 1,000 reliable horsepower. In fact, BMW took their M10 (rumored to be an M30 six with two cylinders lopped off) four cylinder, built a custom 16 valve head with a turbo, and it put out 1,300 hp in BMW's racing days in the 70s. Great racing engines, but their highly temperamental behavior made them poor choices for the street. Today these engines are almost impossible to find and are million dollar engines for their historical value.
Talk about the tuning process for this car, from a beginners perspective. Such as starting with the ECU setup, getting it running, tuning it optimally
I'd be happy to help. I'll make a video next week
yes plzzz
Yes! Or when I get to throwing an m30 in my e30 I'd love to be able to put your tune in it! Crazy!
@@ajitaw haha same! After I send my m20 off with boost lol
I see E34 i click.
This day keeps getting better and better
@Salvatore Demetrius lmao
That's what I'm talking about ! I've got an m30b34 that will be getting a similar treatment soon™️
m30's just reaaaally love that 18psi range! it seemed like mine picked up so much power from 14 to 18psi. for anyone else interested in m30 reliability on stock internals i ran my 2.8l m30 at 18psi for almost 2 years with a stock head gasket and stock head bolts before it blew the head gasket out because the bolts stretched, would definitely not recommend that on a b35. i put a cometic gasket and ARP studs and i've ripped it at 22psi ever since, i recently had the head off again because i broke a rocker arm which is probably one of the only mechanical weak points of this engine, and i could still see crosshatch in the cylinder walls on an engine with over 240,000 miles!
This is our experience with the engines! Finiky with the HG installation but after that they're gluttons for boost!
hey man just wondering why you don't recommend b35 stock head bolts and HG for that amount of boost? are they different from 2.8 to 3.5? or is it due to compression?
I did it. 477hp with 1.23 bar in my e34 535 turbo.
Really good numbers! Looks very promising when I go that route. Glad to see this back in the page.
I think I own this motor/turbo now! Just had a 535i delivered from Colorado and previous owner sent me this video as reference. Needs some love in its current state, but hopefully can get it well sorted!
And it's back. Thank everything.
Love it. I'm almost done with my turbo m30 for my e34.
Can’t wait to see you guys drive it
Love the channel and content, you guys keep up the great work! I feel you guys have allot of potential with this channel! This all takes me back to my e30 days!
Thank you man, we're so glad you think so
Killer man ! Btw will you’re a good vlogger
Thanks homie!!!!
Stellar power per psi
That's amazing! I was going to just cut/o-ring the block while swapping up turbos to a new S362SX-E, instead of sticking with the good fresh OEM HG and ARPs that it already has on it... might just run it up to 14psi and see how long that HG lasts, now. Almost the same setup as this in an E30, so its crazy to see this. Just glad to get get away from my smaller CXRacing turbo, choking at 12psi, hahaha.
Run her to 17! She'll hold! Your turbo is bigger and has a larger exhaust housing so total flow will be around the same at a lower exhaust backpressure. Send it! She's good!
@@DENVERBEERANDOIL TO THE MOON! Hahahahahaha
$0.053 right now :( sad days
Wait you got a crypto
@@DENVERBEERANDOIL 😔 (F)
E34 rocks as does DBO🇬🇧🇬🇧👍👍
we need some turbo m50-m52 content!!! yall are awesome!! hope to meet yall one day
Quite a bit coming up in the next month
Sweet m20 numbers!
Sorry I'm new to the channel and was wondering if the M30 is built
Just head studs
Stock bottom end untouched. Head has never been off the car either
Keep up the great work. Mad love from ABQ. When I'm in Denver next time. Drinks on me...🤯
You said it man! We're along for the ride haha
Stock internals?
Hmm I was Conveniently debating whether or not I should turbo my E34.
ok that's it, I'm turboing my 535...
how did it go?
@@alaardnortus1622
😂😂😂 still no turbo, but I've been to three drift events with it so I'm happy with that :)
@@hoabadoa you drifting with everything stock? Just welded diff?
Just missed a pink 90 535/5 locally last week because I don’t have enough old European cars already.
Is there any way to keep my ac if I boost my m30 e34
What software are you using
Megasquirt and their softeare
Tunerstudio ultra
I HAVE A E30 NEED TO DO S52 SWAO ASAP
M50tub25 e34 525i any chance that would be able to make numbers like this with a similar setup
Yes it's possible but you will need more boost to get to this point. So run a t4 ball bearing turbo with an appropriately sized exhaust housing and you should be able to make the numbers and mitigate lag
Is there mybe a e30 with a motor like that
I'm from Barbados and i'm currently building a e30 turbo m30 swap, i LOVE!!!!!!! the content on the m30, I can't get enough, I would love to source some ARP bolts and injectors for the build. Can you point me in an affordable direction?
I'd be happy to. DM me on Instagram DBO_Murdo
Is it possible to create a ecu mapped and ship it? I’m building a cheapo e34 with a m30 and would love to turbo it but no one here in Ireland does that kinda tuning! A kit would be excellent!
For sure. I can help with that. DM me. @dbo_murdo
Absolutely! Just DM me on Instagram. @dbo_murdo
ive had that same wireless keyboard for years lol
i wanna see m54/m5x turbo / tuning stuff or you could do all the bmw engines you have by generation. like a series. start with oldest and go up.
That would be cool, a buddy of ours is just finishing up an m54 swap into an e36 and is leaning towards the forced induction route in the near future.
@@DENVERBEERANDOIL apparently m54 is the new wave for FI because of tuning options but I'm not sure which route to go
It is cool that you can tune the factory ecu, but that aluminum block is just not capable of making big power. I haven't seen a whole lot of m54s making over 400whp. I would rather have an iron m50 based engine any day.
M30's are VERY overlooked...
Check out the forums.. it's as if they were their own secret club, whom ever had one boosted...
Too bad they're getting hard to find; as they were scrapped all over the place years ago.
Yeee, people don’t kno; never did
And this is why we love BMW! And DBO! LOL.
love this video! awesome. Can I turbo an e32 735i 4 speed automatic? same M30B35 engine.
You definitely can, just anything over 350hp and you are on borrowed time on the transmission.
@@DENVERBEERANDOIL 320hp to 350hp is all i will need for the e32 735i. awesome..what would total cost of turbo and install cost? thank you so much
was this on pump???
I have a 735 with m30b35, you're tempting me...
I have a similar build! I'm having issues to tune it because my MS won't connect to my computer, I've been trying everything and researching everywhere and I can't get it to work, any pointers?
Con cuántos grados de avance trabajaron?
I need this done to my Z4 N52
Awesome! Is it an M30B35? Could you get decent numbers running stock Motronic? I've got an M30B32 (Bosch L Jet) in my E24 and trying to figure out where to go from here. Would love to see 250-300hp with low boost on OEM computer/injectors since I daily drive my car (when Colorado lets me)
I dynod an e24 not too long ago and at this altitude it made 164hp
I would steer HEAVILY clear of stock engine management. Ms PNP is the cheapest best option to make power on these cars.
@@DENVERBEERANDOIL Certainly feels like it! I drive mine at 9K ft. elevation and if feels about as quick as a Civic lol
i would agree about steering clear of using L-jet. i did it, and made it work but it was a waste of time to be honest, i was using an adjustable FMU running who knows what pressure on 30lb injectors, i had to mechanically lock out the distributor advance to prevent pinging and the low end drivability sucked, i was running too much boost on an ebay turbo with an internal gate that was boost creeping. dont get me wrong it did make a lot of power lol. i went to a microsquirt setup with their ign 6 coil and quadspark ignition module.. it was easy to set up, but i had to use injector resistors because the l-jet used low impedance injectors. as well as get a trigger wheel from a motronic 1.3 car i dont believe megasquirt makes a plug and play module for the l-jet systems. if i remember correctly the whole setup for the ecu with wiring, coils, and ignition module was only like 800 bucks for everything i needed and tuning timing is critical when running boost
@@Triiodide1 Some good info!
whats a good car to look for to pull a turbo from at a junkyard? i assume saab or volvo?
Dodge diesels!
@@DENVERBEERANDOIL awesome thank you. gonna hit some of the yards around LA tomorrow and see what I come across. If i dont find anything ill set up a page monitor on the junkyard websites for any of dodge.
They are cheap on eBay just buy one already pulled!
#M30 love!!!!!
Is this a stock bottom end? I was thinking about doing a ~500hp m60 and wasn't sure if I'd have to build it.
Yup! If you go way back in our video you can watch us 'prep' the engine, all we do is HG and studs, can't guarantee results, but this is what we got
Wait wait wait, m60? I've seen people make 600 stock but I couldn't verify it, so at your own risk
So in short, m30? We've seen it happen, m60? At your own risk
Awesome, I'm always going to this channel, when I want to see classic BMW stuff
Will it be of any interrest, to do an aut to man swap on the E34 ? Cheers 🇩🇰🇩🇰🇩🇰
Thanks for the support. We will be doing one soon. It will also involve an engine swap, but the conversion will still be the same.
@@DENVERBEERANDOIL fucking great ! I'll really be looking forward for that, thanks 🤙🤙🤙
Where’s the green turbo e34 at?
We don't know a green turbo? Only two black e34 m30 turbos on our channel... The green wagon is a v8 that is in the process of getting a supercharger ;)
The green one you guys picked up from California a few months back, or am I mistaken😂
Aw man, unfortunately that one became parted out fairly quickly, though m50 turbos will be hitting the content at some point😘
Love to see it 😎😎
I’m in the Denver area could you tune my m30b35 in my e28?
Absolutely
Hit me up @ dbo_murdo
I have an 87 E30 eta with 88K original miles. With a similar build (ARP studs, upgraded lash adjusters, ARP main & rod bolts), also going with megasquirt, what would you say is a safe-ish WHP?
I have an 88 Seta m20 with only ARP head bolts and it has been doing pretty well 440whp. I've broke a rocker arm, and blown 2 head gaskets as a result of losing the water pump belt, but the bottom end has had 0 issues.
That's about what I'd heard! Do I need an "I" head and cam, or can I get there with the eta with enough boost?
Definitely need an i head and cam
Stock engine? Or with thicker head gasket?
Stock engine, stock head gasket, arp studs
We mount recently Cometic head gasket with Arp to push the 7 series M30b30 to 2,5 bar. I enjoy a lot your videos 🤣🤪
Wow, that's awesome, did it survive?
@@DENVERBEERANDOIL The head gasket blow of in a hard sesion of drift 🤤🤭
i see alot of people using holset turbos on m50/m52 turbo builds why is that
they are cheap and easy to find used
Bro I know this is old but can you help me tune my e34 540i Turbo?
Will has since moved on from the Channel. Do you have a standalone ecu already?
Well im just curious how manny power you could get out of a s38 with turbo...people say 1000bhp
But i hardly doubt that....
Stay tuned, there are a few turbo s38s in the works in our group
So tasty
That girl is bad ass
If you really want to go crazy with your O-rings and "fire rings," hit up an oilfield O-ring supply company. These companies make hardened rubber O-rings capable of withstanding several hundred degree temperatures. Be sure to have your specifications ready (O.D. [Outer Diameter], I.D. [Interior Diameter], thickness, etc.) and beef up your internals and headgaskets if you're going to go nuts with boost pressures. Best of all, build that M30 from the ground up for turbos. There are turbo M30 engines that have made over 1,000 reliable horsepower.
In fact, BMW took their M10 (rumored to be an M30 six with two cylinders lopped off) four cylinder, built a custom 16 valve head with a turbo, and it put out 1,300 hp in BMW's racing days in the 70s. Great racing engines, but their highly temperamental behavior made them poor choices for the street. Today these engines are almost impossible to find and are million dollar engines for their historical value.
chris & your Turbo M30 E34 was my dream build until all this shit happened
Help me tune my m30
Just build a proper m30 and take it to the limit
One is planned for later this year in one of our own cars.
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