Hello everyone Nini here, just to clear a few misconceptions, 1. I meant 11 pounds even at that it was an exaggeration to land at the point that some people were born fat and it stays with them for life 2. When you say fat is a choice who is actually making that choice, the individual or their finances or environment, where a plate of rice cost 2000 naira and 3 pieces of apples cost 2500, please what choice do you think will be made in that instance. To Reiterate most of what I said in this video is an exaggeration, hypothetical and alleged. Let’s remember to always be kind and spread love to one another as you don’t know what might be someone’s 13th reason. Thank you for watching the video and a big thank you to cruise for having me on here.
@@NifesimiDada more can still be don on one's side to lose weight. Being kind and spreading love to people that haven't put in maximum effort is detrimental
You should do an episode of people who have gained weight from being skinny and people who have lost weight from being fat. I think they’d be able to give context to this more
Ummm…obviously. This is a more civil argument topic. There are many topics that will be VERY uncivil and this is one that has no ground to be uncivil lol
3:37 "words can only have power over you if u give meaning to it." This is such a powerful quote❤. As a fat girl, this video is beautifully made. Love the conversations
Anastasia here👋👋 I really enjoyed having this conversation. Learned so many things from my fellow panel speakers. I hope this video spreads more awareness on the severe impacts of body shaming (fat or skinny) and people learn to be kind to one another ❤ Felt good to be back on the channel again😊 Thanks for having me @cruise
Being skinny in Nigeria, is not a funny at all. As a people or a society, culturally accepted attractive people are based off of how thick or fleshy(being descriptive) they are. There's this stigma that comes to being quite skinny, especially if you are approaching young adulthood, or already a full young adult. And let's face it, it's quite seeming to be worse when you're a woman. You're deemed unattractive(not hot) by the male populace, because you do not have a huge backframe/backside or big breasts. It does even come to situations where you are addressed as "flat" or looking like a "stick" for being on the skinny side, and it's always in a condescending context. As per, "you suppose be man, because how complete babe/woman no go get flesh? How woman no go get body na, you be man oh"... it's always not great to hear that. Just to say, whether skinny or plus-sized, I really hope we all come to learn and appreciate our body and how we naturally are. We can do our best to be the better version of ourselves while not hating or killing our image.
@@Inka_Morrisson I'm sorry that you were affected by the unkindness of certain people. I hope you are doing better now? I am still learning to uphold a better image of myself and my body. Please don't ever be put down so much by whatever unkind words or action people display towards your body image. Sometimes, though, we tend to set an unrealistic standard for ourselves, despite knowing who we are.
Fact: Both skinny and fat people will always be criticized in Nigeria. I'm a skinny person and when I tell people I eat alot, they ask me why I'm still skinny🤦♀️. I'm glad that this is being discussed, we need to start changing this perspective.
Both fat and skinny people will be criticised everywhere. The west wants skinny, but they want skinny in the sense that thin in the waist area but still fleshy in chest and butt. You see it all the time the hourglass body figure, slim thick. It doesn't matter where you are, people will always have problem with somebody else's body
This episode feels like everyone is just sharing their thoughts, opinions, experiences and uplifting, supporting each other. There was so much positivity here
Mr.Mayowa is so real, and I like it. Being fat is definitely a choice, but a hard one. No matter the gene and hormonal imbalance, it all comes down to what you consume, the amount of calories your body needs vs the amount you consume, If you are in a deficit, you will definitely lose weight. So when the entrepreneur lady says, she's done all sort of exercise, and still hasn't gotten result, exercise is just like a tip of the iceberg, no matter how much you exercise, if you are still not in a calories deficit, you won't lose weight. Everybody burn a certain calories already at rest, so even without exercise, but with a deficit, you can still lose weight. And a lot of us consume x2 the amount of food we need, hence the reason why most people are overweight. And I understand that some people have health issues, but with a good lifestyle, you can avoid to be fat. And life is not fair, it will never be, some people have fast metabolism and good health, why others, the opposite, you that have the opposite have to put in x2 the work, that is life.
Even with calorie deficit, People with underlying health issues will still find it very hard/impossible to lose weight. That’s the point you and the pharmacist are missing. More reason why you shouldn’t generalize, Weightloss for people with severe hormonal/health conditions is way more than calorie deficit.
@@suleimanbashirat4323 Yeah it might be more than just a caloric deficit but that doesn't make it impossible, ultimately anyone can lose weight, some just have to put in more effort. Calling that "not a choice" and acting like it's not possible to lose weight is stupid tbh and doesn't help those who struggle with it
This is the time first time i'm commenting here, i love how peaceful they passed their points, everyone was giving the space to express themselves without others being defensive,very matured minds. We are all Unique in our own ways.
The pharmacist (with the cap) made some very great, balanced points especially regarding personal choices and accountability. Very good discussion overall
I started a new job recently and I can’t count how many times my boss made jokes of me being skinny At first i took it as a joke also but it just keeps happening He even asked if i had blood in me just last night 🤦🏾♀️ People really need to do better when it comes to minding things business on other people’s life
As much as they are your employer you need to draw boundaries. Let them know that you find it demeaning when they make such references, and you don't appreciate talks about your body in ways that has nothing to do with your job. You did not create yourself and neither did he/she. Find a good way to say this via text or in-person. I say this bcos I've been in a similar situation, although not my direct employer but it was a senior male colleague and I cleared him straight up the 3rd time it happened. Cos I saw that not addressing it made him think i was okay with it. I changed it for him. Na you dey feed me wey you dey call me fat... mschewww
I applaud Mayowa for his answer to the second question: Being plus-sized is a choice. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾He made valid points in regard to culture which play an imperative role on our decisions we make as individuals.. Most of health conditions we encounter are stemmed from the stress we experience throughout our daily lives..! Sustained stress put our bodies through a state of elevated cortisol that further prompts us into survival mode(once the stress isn’t resolved). Once in survival mode persons experience wide range of diseases and sickness ( hormonal imbalance, cancer, diabetes, hypertension, autoimmune disorders etc).
26:05 when she said “ your bum bum is to big you need to lose more weight “ 😭 modelling agencies in Nigeria are actually all the same because I went through that same thing
The pharmacist guy is so well spoken and so right when it come to the fat being a choice thing. Something as simple as deciding not to take proceeded foods for a reasonable time period will yield physical results but sadly a lot of us can't hold ourselves accountable for lacking discipline and being inconsistent
Ohhhh please they are a lot of people that are consistent and it doesn’t work and that’s why most people then to g for survey there are a lot for you to learn same as the pharmacist guy that looks like someone that got married because his newly wedded wife pumps him with so much love affection and reduced the burden of not having to do much anymore Because to me that’s not far
@@Exclusiveee1 wait, you're dissing the pharmacist? The person there that's obviously the most knowledgeable when it comes to the human body? Omo, you fat people and your coping mechanisms Sha. Your way of thinking is very limiting tbh. I hope you can grow past it
I enjoyed every second in this show/podcast. My take-home in this discussion is that self acceptance is key. However, do everything within your power to stay healthy and confident.
This was a great episode the respect that everyone gave each other was just amazing. Ephah saying "Some people our born in to a home and some people are born into a house." I'm a person who was born into a house and just now letting go of my past. I'm a skinny person, and I hated people thinking they could always pick me up. My friends and than guys at when I use to go to clubs. It made me see how vernable I was. Much love from 🇺🇸 everyone perspective I understood.
I don't 💯 agree that one's weight is a choice. Sometimes it is, but not all the time. I've been slim my whole life and I've tried to add more weight many times even after child birth.
Firstly: I think skinny shaming is more worst than fat. Cause fat shaming comes with intent but skinny shaming, everyone does it without even knowing. Even skinny children are not spared. I remember as a child, my mum always wants me to wear one particular gown cause it big and long sleeves. Why? Cause it covers my body well and so people will stop accusing her of not feeding me well. A fat baby is praised but a skinny one is side-looked or they start advising the mother on what to feed her baby. Fat women have problems with fatness cause of what men says most times, but as a skinny woman , you are a target to both men and women. In nursing school, my classmates fat enough to be mistaken for my mother told me, real men like flesh and not bone like me and I won’t find a real man. But she said it when I already loved myself enough to reply her “ I said “well I’m a woman to be kept and cherished not eaten like a meat as you describe yourself “ the audacity for someone who is just her early 20s yet look older than my mum to come for me like that.
Hmmm in Nigeria ppl will shame u for been fat more than if u are skinny, and u even just did that in your last sentence saying the girl is younger than u but looks as old as your mom. These are the things fat ppl hear on a daily basis, how they look like Grandma's even though they are young
I love hearing Ephah speak, she’s just brilliant! This conversation was really good. I also feel that we should be careful of how we speak and refer to other people. It doesn’t matter if you think something is not offensive, what matters is how the person receiving it feels. Growing up skinny in Nigeria, people call me different names like “HIV, “Bag of Bones”. Someone even once said if they’re looking for pictures of “suffering African children” they can use me. Let’s just learn to be kind especially with our words
Sorry you have to go through this. I do agree with you that this happens a lot, and people honestly need to be more sensitive when referencing the descriptive figures of another person. Sending you lots of love❤
I can’t believe people said such ridiculous things to you. They clearly don’t hear themselves and have no brain cells. They have no decorum or any sense. You are awesome
theres no need for extremes , 500 sit ups and such. Consistency is the key. 5000 situps for 1 week won’t make a difference but 5000 steps a day for a year will definitely show. CONSITENCY is the key
hii guys! just want to clarify something. 🤫 The word 'fat' in itself is obviously not a bad word. however, society has so much transformed the meaning of this word. that it doesn't just mean 'fat' but goes beyond. it just so happened that the 'extra meaning' society attatched to the word is demeaning. It therfore gives the perception that 'fat' is rude or demeaning. so, since we know this, it's best not to call people fat. you may see it as okay, but it's most likely that a vast majority of people, are going through a whole lot because of the word 'fat'. let's show love guys😝
@@Αηομ send me your CV, let me get you something doing with your time and energy cause it’s obvious you have in abundance, I can’t let my fellow human rott and waste away their time like this
@@NifesimiDada how much is the pay ma? I'm genuinely considering your offer When I start working under you and we become friends, we could even turn gym buddies. We'd be hitting weekly PRs like they're nothing 🥹
@@AnastasiaChima my departmental mates did anonymous messages and really degraded me in 100lvl . Still openly comment about how "thin" and "flat" I am till today.
This all gets down to having self esteem as one of them said... I'm a "Fat" man and I even enjoy people calling me "Biggie", "Abig","big man" etc... All these are just the way you're seen and it's fine.. I just really see myself as "enough" "handsome","Wonderfully made minus nothing". It still doesn't mean I wouldn't live life well and live long because I mind what I eat and I exercise at any small opportunity... For example, I packed into a new location And as usual the "Abig", big man" etc was on everyone's lips.. Omo, anytime anyone calls me that I'll be like "Eheee, Esmalll, how are you, ehee Broom stick, how's your family , etc😅 all of a sudden, within two weeks, nobody ever wanted to call me those names again, they all know my real name and address me as that 😂😂 No gree for anybody oo else your mental health would be tampered on😂😂 especially in this part of the world Wonderful show, I enjoyed every second Kudos Cruise... You guys are doing wonderfully well 💯👏👏
I don’t agree with you completely on that We have many soups that are rich in proteins and vitamins You may argue that those soups will be eaten with swallow’s which are carbs and I agree with you that, but there are other options our swallow can be made from, eg unripe plantain swallow which contains zinc, iron, calcium, magnesium. You can still choose to consume less calories while eating Nigeria meals, do your research and expand your menu beyond rice
@@ogesworld7783aunty, our diet is poor and loaded with carbs. Imagine eating bread and sweetened chocolate tea for breakfast, swallow, which is just starch ( and no, most people don’t use unripe plantain to make swallow) and rice or yam and oil for dinner, for brunch/snacks we drink garri and suger, puff-puff, etc. for a while this way tolerable because most of us were farmers, factory workers, etc, hence we burned the extra calories. Today most people are office workers/ lead sedentary lifestyles. That’s why life expectancy is low in Nigeria, diabetes is extremely high.
@@ogesworld7783true but those same soups have so much oil, we get things a lot in Nigeria, we’ll fry meat, chicken, plantain, stew. We still add oil to a lot of our soups, ayamase, beans, yam porridge, oil has a lot of calories and it adds up. Our portion sizes also don’t help, someone will eat a mountain of rice with one small piece of meat.
Loved this conversation. I like that they also mentioned important factors like PCOS and eating habits which are very important for topics like this. I’m a fitness enthusiast and my own goal was to gain weight. I grew up skinny in Nigeria and I agree that Nigerians are overly critical of people’s bodies.
I enjoyed the video. Can you guys make a video about people with disabilities mental (down syndrome or autism) and physical. Since it’s not really talked about in Nigeria. It will be great to hear they’re perspectives on how they navigate living in Nigeria.
I liked this debate before i watched it because ive been super skinny and super fat... I feel since I gained weight I feel less worried about being carried to where I no know when I walk about at night. But hearing those who did you eat comments to double in size can ruin your day.
Being slim gets body shamed more I remember praying to God as a child to make me fat ,I never knew what being fat or slim meant but I learnt from being body shamed I'd always ask "how do you know when someone is fat or slim"?
I love Anastasia so much speaking for skinny people . Do they know how much people keep saying how skinny people look , it really affected me had to keep eating just to gain weight
After watching the video I feel like they focused more on fat people and their struggles than slim people. I understood more about the struggles of being plus sized than I did about being skinny. There’s soo much more that skinny people go through mehn😪
@@Niri777 I know but the commend I replied to is talking about your “friend” saying you’re fat, it’s still no big deal. It’s the same as a stranger saying you’re fat
U can't spend over 15 or 20 years eating and building fat then expect to lose it in a matter of weeks or even days, we hv 2 be realistic and patient with ourselves ❤.
Whatever your body shape, just find as you go love yourself. Ladies men are fickle. Today it’s slim thick, tomorrow is bbl baddie. Just love yourself, take care of yourself and live your life.
It’s ironic how so many people who once shamed others for being fat are now gaining noticeable weight themselves and proudly calling it being “thick.” Okay baddie.. Whatever rocks your boat.
I have friends on the big side and I can say it is not "always" a choice to lose or gain weight. Yes, you can try your best and truly, it works for some people but there are others that try and some even do times 2 of the work and still their efforts prove futile. Hormonal imbalance is more common than people think and I'm glad people are starting to get enlightened that people are not just fat because they "eat too much". Mayowa made a lot of sense, definitely, one should try their best to keep fit and be consistent with it. Although, I feel he was comparing his own situation of inconsistency to that of people that may have other contributing factors like genetics, pcos, and so on. Being fat doesn't always equate to being unhealthy. One can be big and be healthy.
Well, I just feel it's because of the beauty standard in the world that makes us not comfortable to walk outside cause we feel different or we don't fit in, I'm slim and I struggle to go outside cause I'm scared of what people will say, I can't wear certain clothes cause I'm flat chest and slim, but I feel if people like me are walking freely outside not caring about anything, I'll join them... I seriously love this topic and this channel
Nini , you are soooo beautiful and you have a great head on your shoulders... Honestly I was just screaming ' Preach gurllll!!!!!' while you spoke. We could be friends jare ❤
So the fat from birth was given by the food you ate then? You were fat from birth because it was your gene You lost weight because you literally pushed hard to loose it and the moment you don’t push it as hard as you do trust me you go back to
And as a certified doctor who knows about more than just food but knows about genes too. There are many genes that control your body weight. So yes, technically, there is "a fat gene"
I would rather agree with Noah saying "poverty is not a choice" than agreeing to "Being fat is not a choice" 😂😂😂 Anyway, let's call a marker, a marker and not a pencil. Even amidst medical conditions, being fat is most at times a choice if not always. If you don't want to be accountable for your actions or habits that's left for you. I mean, most of us might have seen/watched documentary of people who weigh more than 6 of them combined but still decided to lose that weight nonetheless. MAYBE rephrasing the prompt might help, how about "Being Obese is a Choice" 🙂
Why is it that you don't find fat people during war time or during starvation? Honestly I experimented eating unhealthy foods sodas, doughnuts and all these fried fast foods for 2months and I increased from 75kg to 87kg. During this time I was eating like 4-5x a day and eating cakes, sugary foods etc. My face ballooned, I gained alot of abdominal fat. The next thing I did was decide to lose that weight. I started an OMAD (One meal a day) diet eating only at 3-4pm. I totally cut out sugar, sodas, bread. There are a lot of things that contain sugar... Mayonnaise, ketchup etc. I ate more meat and veges and less carbs (rice, yam, beans etc) ans started exercising early in the morning at home. In 1month I lost all that weight and I'm now 76kg. So to me it's possible if you want to be consistent in dieting and exercising. It all comes down to what you put in your body and your activity level. Sorry to say but a lot of fat people eat higher than the average person. Yeah they're people with medical conditions that cause them to gain weight but it's still linked to food, the fat doesn't just miraculously come from no where.
It's the fact that no matter what you say, everyone insists that if this is how it happens in my body, it's the same for others. People refuse to stop being myopic either way
For many women who have been insulted for their weight and had their ability to find a spouse questioned because of it, please don’t let pressure push you into a marriage just to prove a point. In the end, you’ll be the one left carrying that burden alone.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE STATEMENT LINKING MARRIAGE AND BEING IN A HEALTHY WEIGHT. YOU SAID " GOING INTO MARRIAGE TO PROVE A POINT' WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?
WHAT THAT MEANS IS SOME WOMEN FEEL THE NEED TO PROVE WRONG THOSE WHO SAY THEY WON’T FIND A SPOUSE BECAUSE OF THEIR WEIGHT. IN DOING SO, THEY RUSH INTO MARRIAGES FOR ALL THE WRONG REASONS, JUST TO SILENCE THOSE CRITICS. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
Calling someone fat or skinny can be offensive(depending on how it is said),especially when its something you are insecure about. Like sombody saying "you have a big nose" it would be offensive to someone that is insecure about it but its descriptive. And sometimes these things are said in a very hurtful way that would increase ones insecurity. As people we just need to be careful when we speak about sensitive stuff (wether you are just decribing the person or not)
Cruise kinda took more time handpicking this people... everybody passing their point without necessarily tryin to make anybody less of their selves. And yhhh Ephah is such a fineeeee woman🥺🥺🥺
Hello everyone Nini here, just to clear a few misconceptions,
1. I meant 11 pounds even at that it was an exaggeration to land at the point that some people were born fat and it stays with them for life
2. When you say fat is a choice who is actually making that choice, the individual or their finances or environment, where a plate of rice cost 2000 naira and 3 pieces of apples cost 2500, please what choice do you think will be made in that instance.
To Reiterate most of what I said in this video is an exaggeration, hypothetical and alleged.
Let’s remember to always be kind and spread love to one another as you don’t know what might be someone’s 13th reason.
Thank you for watching the video and a big thank you to cruise for having me on here.
As a fat girl too, I loved ur points here nini ❤
My girrrrlllll❤
@@AnastasiaChima my queen ❤️❤️❤️❤️💋
@@NifesimiDada more can still be don on one's side to lose weight. Being kind and spreading love to people that haven't put in maximum effort is detrimental
@@NifesimiDada Your intelligence is plus size 👍
You should do an episode of people who have gained weight from being skinny and people who have lost weight from being fat. I think they’d be able to give context to this more
I think this is the most civil and intelligent conversation this channel has had.
I agree with you
probably because its not centered around religion
Ummm…obviously. This is a more civil argument topic. There are many topics that will be VERY uncivil and this is one that has no ground to be uncivil lol
Cruise, do a middle ground on Colourism in Nigeria
Omg yess
Yess!!!!+
I won't lie, both sides were making really Valid points. I just kept switching stances as I listened
3:37 "words can only have power over you if u give meaning to it." This is such a powerful quote❤. As a fat girl, this video is beautifully made. Love the conversations
Anastasia here👋👋
I really enjoyed having this conversation. Learned so many things from my fellow panel speakers.
I hope this video spreads more awareness on the severe impacts of body shaming (fat or skinny) and people learn to be kind to one another ❤
Felt good to be back on the channel again😊
Thanks for having me @cruise
You were on that android or iPhone video right?
You look familiar
@@Gennyminaj yeah I was ☺️
Girl, Don't care... You're beautiful. No trippin....👍🏽
@@the_popmusicmongul6625 thank you ❤️
Every single person spoke intelligently. For a moment i forgot how they looked. A round table of extremely smart minds.
❤️❤️❤️❤️
I was here to say so. Intelligent debate. It wasn't chaotic
It wasn't. None I mean Not one of them knew what they where talking about, this was simply a pity party.
Aswr😂@@lexbusterz5883
@@lexbusterz5883💯💯
Mature people having a mature conversation,it’s a breath of fresh air❤️❤️
Its wild how they were so chill all the times and laughing but in the American version cut, they were arguing and tense the whole time
Being skinny in Nigeria, is not a funny at all.
As a people or a society, culturally accepted attractive people are based off of how thick or fleshy(being descriptive) they are. There's this stigma that comes to being quite skinny, especially if you are approaching young adulthood, or already a full young adult. And let's face it, it's quite seeming to be worse when you're a woman. You're deemed unattractive(not hot) by the male populace, because you do not have a huge backframe/backside or big breasts. It does even come to situations where you are addressed as "flat" or looking like a "stick" for being on the skinny side, and it's always in a condescending context. As per, "you suppose be man, because how complete babe/woman no go get flesh? How woman no go get body na, you be man oh"... it's always not great to hear that.
Just to say, whether skinny or plus-sized, I really hope we all come to learn and appreciate our body and how we naturally are. We can do our best to be the better version of ourselves while not hating or killing our image.
So true. But people’s opinion of me is not my business. You can’t please everyone.
Very true
Same experience here in cote d'ivoire as a skinny woman...the things I did to gain weight...I'm just grateful I'm alive
@@Inka_Morrisson I'm sorry that you were affected by the unkindness of certain people. I hope you are doing better now?
I am still learning to uphold a better image of myself and my body.
Please don't ever be put down so much by whatever unkind words or action people display towards your body image.
Sometimes, though, we tend to set an unrealistic standard for ourselves, despite knowing who we are.
Fact: Both skinny and fat people will always be criticized in Nigeria. I'm a skinny person and when I tell people I eat alot, they ask me why I'm still skinny🤦♀️. I'm glad that this is being discussed, we need to start changing this perspective.
Both fat and skinny people will be criticised everywhere. The west wants skinny, but they want skinny in the sense that
thin in the waist area but still fleshy in chest and butt.
You see it all the time the hourglass body figure, slim thick.
It doesn't matter where you are, people will always have problem with somebody else's body
This episode feels like everyone is just sharing their thoughts, opinions, experiences and uplifting, supporting each other. There was so much positivity here
Mr.Mayowa is so real, and I like it. Being fat is definitely a choice, but a hard one. No matter the gene and hormonal imbalance, it all comes down to what you consume, the amount of calories your body needs vs the amount you consume, If you are in a deficit, you will definitely lose weight. So when the entrepreneur lady says, she's done all sort of exercise, and still hasn't gotten result, exercise is just like a tip of the iceberg, no matter how much you exercise, if you are still not in a calories deficit, you won't lose weight. Everybody burn a certain calories already at rest, so even without exercise, but with a deficit, you can still lose weight. And a lot of us consume x2 the amount of food we need, hence the reason why most people are overweight. And I understand that some people have health issues, but with a good lifestyle, you can avoid to be fat. And life is not fair, it will never be, some people have fast metabolism and good health, why others, the opposite, you that have the opposite have to put in x2 the work, that is life.
Yen yen yen
@@jesuferanmi thank you oh
@@jesuferanmi he's not wrong the pharmacist was the one making the most sense out of everyone
Even with calorie deficit, People with underlying health issues will still find it very hard/impossible to lose weight. That’s the point you and the pharmacist are missing. More reason why you shouldn’t generalize, Weightloss for people with severe hormonal/health conditions is way more than calorie deficit.
@@suleimanbashirat4323 Yeah it might be more than just a caloric deficit but that doesn't make it impossible, ultimately anyone can lose weight, some just have to put in more effort. Calling that "not a choice" and acting like it's not possible to lose weight is stupid tbh and doesn't help those who struggle with it
We sometimes underestimate the amount of food we eat everyday, track your food for a week and you'll be surprised at how much you eat.
My mum always say this thing a lot and I thought she was joking.
Some people would still eat a lot and not add weight
Literally, I lost weight while still eating eba and chocolate because I controlled the portions. 10kg down, 8 to go
@@jesuferanmithey are probably more active.
@@li.ldn21 that's great,i hope you reach your goal weight soon.
Please bring more smart people like this for the next conversation. Really loved this conversation
This is the time first time i'm commenting here, i love how peaceful they passed their points, everyone was giving the space to express themselves without others being defensive,very matured minds. We are all Unique in our own ways.
One thing I can never do in my life is to miss any Cruise episode!!!
😅😅😅
The pharmacist (with the cap) made some very great, balanced points especially regarding personal choices and accountability. Very good discussion overall
I never expected this to be a topic of discussion but I'm loving it😂
I started a new job recently and I can’t count how many times my boss made jokes of me being skinny
At first i took it as a joke also but it just keeps happening
He even asked if i had blood in me just last night 🤦🏾♀️
People really need to do better when it comes to minding things business on other people’s life
As much as they are your employer you need to draw boundaries. Let them know that you find it demeaning when they make such references, and you don't appreciate talks about your body in ways that has nothing to do with your job. You did not create yourself and neither did he/she. Find a good way to say this via text or in-person. I say this bcos I've been in a similar situation, although not my direct employer but it was a senior male colleague and I cleared him straight up the 3rd time it happened. Cos I saw that not addressing it made him think i was okay with it. I changed it for him. Na you dey feed me wey you dey call me fat... mschewww
It’s your choice to allow it.
Tell him to stop it .. .. a lot of people are not sensitive to the feelings of others
That's very unprofessional of him. It shouldn't even be a topic of conversation at work.
Tell him to stop it.
He's a bully...stand up to him.
I'm skinny and I'm trying to add weight, it's a very hard thing to do.
I believe it's the same or harder the other way round
It's okay to be skinny. Genetics works that way for most.
This is the best round table discussion ive ever watched, everyone was intelligent and respectful, i hope to see more😌
I applaud Mayowa for his answer to the second question: Being plus-sized is a choice. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾He made valid points in regard to culture which play an imperative role on our decisions we make as individuals..
Most of health conditions we encounter are stemmed from the stress we experience throughout our daily lives..! Sustained stress put our bodies through a state of elevated cortisol that further prompts us into survival mode(once the stress isn’t resolved). Once in survival mode persons experience wide range of diseases and sickness ( hormonal imbalance, cancer, diabetes, hypertension, autoimmune disorders etc).
Ephah's confidence is magnetic! ✨✨✨
26:05 when she said “ your bum bum is to big you need to lose more weight “ 😭 modelling agencies in Nigeria are actually all the same because I went through that same thing
My dear!!!
This episode taught me to be kind always
The pharmacist guy is so well spoken and so right when it come to the fat being a choice thing. Something as simple as deciding not to take proceeded foods for a reasonable time period will yield physical results but sadly a lot of us can't hold ourselves accountable for lacking discipline and being inconsistent
Ohhhh please they are a lot of people that are consistent and it doesn’t work and that’s why most people then to g for survey there are a lot for you to learn same as the pharmacist guy that looks like someone that got married because his newly wedded wife pumps him with so much love affection and reduced the burden of not having to do much anymore
Because to me that’s not far
@@Exclusiveee1 let me ask you a question. What are the things that make people fat?
@@Exclusiveee1 wait, you're dissing the pharmacist? The person there that's obviously the most knowledgeable when it comes to the human body?
Omo, you fat people and your coping mechanisms Sha.
Your way of thinking is very limiting tbh. I hope you can grow past it
@@Exclusiveee1what are you saying ma??
Do you understand yourself??
I enjoyed every second in this show/podcast. My take-home in this discussion is that self acceptance is key. However, do everything within your power to stay healthy and confident.
This was a great episode the respect that everyone gave each other was just amazing. Ephah saying "Some people our born in to a home and some people are born into a house." I'm a person who was born into a house and just now letting go of my past.
I'm a skinny person, and I hated people thinking they could always pick me up. My friends and than guys at when I use to go to clubs.
It made me see how vernable I was. Much love from 🇺🇸 everyone perspective I understood.
I love the way Mayowa speaks. He’s very smart
Thought i was the only one
I love all their perspectives but Nini and Mayowa have my heart 🥲🥲🥲
This is such a great episode. I love how the all the participants are respectful. It is such a great discussion.
I don't 💯 agree that one's weight is a choice. Sometimes it is, but not all the time. I've been slim my whole life and I've tried to add more weight many times even after child birth.
whenever we give prompts we are meant to stay on the average scale outliers don't really count that's why they are called outliers
Do you sleep long? How active are you? Weight gain or loss is possible it just requires you to change your day to day lifestyle which is very hard.
Firstly: I think skinny shaming is more worst than fat. Cause fat shaming comes with intent but skinny shaming, everyone does it without even knowing. Even skinny children are not spared. I remember as a child, my mum always wants me to wear one particular gown cause it big and long sleeves. Why? Cause it covers my body well and so people will stop accusing her of not feeding me well.
A fat baby is praised but a skinny one is side-looked or they start advising the mother on what to feed her baby.
Fat women have problems with fatness cause of what men says most times, but as a skinny woman , you are a target to both men and women.
In nursing school, my classmates fat enough to be mistaken for my mother told me, real men like flesh and not bone like me and I won’t find a real man. But she said it when I already loved myself enough to reply her “ I said “well I’m a woman to be kept and cherished not eaten like a meat as you describe yourself “ the audacity for someone who is just her early 20s yet look older than my mum to come for me like that.
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Very good for her. Stupid girl that she was.
Hmmm in Nigeria ppl will shame u for been fat more than if u are skinny, and u even just did that in your last sentence saying the girl is younger than u but looks as old as your mom. These are the things fat ppl hear on a daily basis, how they look like Grandma's even though they are young
@@emirowland-douglas4006That's arguable. A society where the beauty standard is pretty much "fat" will shame those who don't look that way more.
I love hearing Ephah speak, she’s just brilliant! This conversation was really good. I also feel that we should be careful of how we speak and refer to other people. It doesn’t matter if you think something is not offensive, what matters is how the person receiving it feels. Growing up skinny in Nigeria, people call me different names like “HIV, “Bag of Bones”. Someone even once said if they’re looking for pictures of “suffering African children” they can use me. Let’s just learn to be kind especially with our words
Sorry you have to go through this. I do agree with you that this happens a lot, and people honestly need to be more sensitive when referencing the descriptive figures of another person.
Sending you lots of love❤
I can’t believe people said such ridiculous things to you. They clearly don’t hear themselves and have no brain cells. They have no decorum or any sense. You are awesome
SORRY YOU HAD TO EXPERIENCE THAT
@@soffiyahmuheeb3021 Thank you❤️
@@Kingofthenet2 Thank youu
Enlightening af. Shouts out to everyone, especially Nini - MVP
theres no need for extremes , 500 sit ups and such. Consistency is the key. 5000 situps for 1 week won’t make a difference but 5000 steps a day for a year will definitely show. CONSITENCY is the key
You get it! 💯 a lot of ppl dont understand this
I honestly enjoyed listening to Ephah, she's really given me alot to think about. special thanks to the cruise team for putting this up.
hii guys! just want to clarify something. 🤫
The word 'fat' in itself is obviously not a bad word. however, society has so much transformed the meaning of this word. that it doesn't just mean 'fat' but goes beyond. it just so happened that the 'extra meaning' society attatched to the word is demeaning. It therfore gives the perception that 'fat' is rude or demeaning. so, since we know this, it's best not to call people fat. you may see it as okay, but it's most likely that a vast majority of people, are going through a whole lot because of the word 'fat'.
let's show love guys😝
With this few points of theirs, they've been able to convince me and not to confuse me, that being fat is a choice 🎙️🎙️
It was really nice to watch. No one was shouting or getting emotional. Everyone shared their thoughts clearly and calmly.
Everyone is secure in their self
What would Pharmacist say about skinny people who eat a lot but still don’t gain weight? Same applies to plus size people 🤷🏽
Nini has so much emotional strength. Damn!
Something i fell in love with
A very refreshing discussion here. In all it winds down to the societal subjection to labels”
I love how These Cruise talks/debates helps us se the Best and worst of both sides... EMPATHY!!!!!
I LOVE YOU EPHAH, you are an inspiration!
Nini was the heart of this episode.
In the end, we play the cards we are dealt.
Mr. Mayowa 👏👏💯💯
The Beautiful thing is that he's from the fat side and he knows it's a choice. 👍🏽
😀 really proud of the cruise team, work ethic, the effort, quality of content and production is impressive.
@cruisetv please try to tag the speakers in your video. Please it will go a long way and also help people follow them. 😊
Tell them o
@@AnastasiaChima aswear, make we dey follow slim fine girls like you 🌚
@@NifesimiDada they na u be the fat lawyer?
Why u come comment?
@@Αηομ send me your CV, let me get you something doing with your time and energy cause it’s obvious you have in abundance, I can’t let my fellow human rott and waste away their time like this
@@NifesimiDada how much is the pay ma? I'm genuinely considering your offer
When I start working under you and we become friends, we could even turn gym buddies.
We'd be hitting weekly PRs like they're nothing 🥹
Skinny shaming is sooo heavy here in Nigeria and I don't even understand
It should be spoken about more often
@@AnastasiaChima my departmental mates did anonymous messages and really degraded me in 100lvl .
Still openly comment about how "thin" and "flat" I am till today.
@@the_real_ada and if you reply to them now … they’ll say it’s a joke. Meanwhile it’s actually not.
So sorry you had to go through that ❤️
Skinny shamming is real everywhere
Love the diverse angle of conversation
Great content on topical issues
This all gets down to having self esteem as one of them said...
I'm a "Fat" man and I even enjoy people calling me "Biggie", "Abig","big man" etc... All these are just the way you're seen and it's fine.. I just really see myself as "enough" "handsome","Wonderfully made minus nothing". It still doesn't mean I wouldn't live life well and live long because I mind what I eat and I exercise at any small opportunity... For example, I packed into a new location And as usual the "Abig", big man" etc was on everyone's lips.. Omo, anytime anyone calls me that I'll be like "Eheee, Esmalll, how are you, ehee Broom stick, how's your family , etc😅 all of a sudden, within two weeks, nobody ever wanted to call me those names again, they all know my real name and address me as that 😂😂
No gree for anybody oo else your mental health would be tampered on😂😂 especially in this part of the world
Wonderful show, I enjoyed every second
Kudos Cruise... You guys are doing wonderfully well 💯👏👏
I like Nini already, she is a very nice person to be around.
These type of videos(face2face) are my fav❤,used to be distant from the channel because they had ceased coming but I'm back !!
Much love from SA❤
Our Nigerian diets sef no dey help matter,so much carbs 🤣🤣
I don’t agree with you completely on that
We have many soups that are rich in proteins and vitamins
You may argue that those soups will be eaten with swallow’s which are carbs and I agree with you that, but there are other options our swallow can be made from, eg unripe plantain swallow which contains zinc, iron, calcium, magnesium.
You can still choose to consume less calories while eating Nigeria meals, do your research and expand your menu beyond rice
@@ogesworld7783 Thank you for this,it was very well written.
@@ogesworld7783aunty, our diet is poor and loaded with carbs. Imagine eating bread and sweetened chocolate tea for breakfast, swallow, which is just starch ( and no, most people don’t use unripe plantain to make swallow) and rice or yam and oil for dinner, for brunch/snacks we drink garri and suger, puff-puff, etc. for a while this way tolerable because most of us were farmers, factory workers, etc, hence we burned the extra calories. Today most people are office workers/ lead sedentary lifestyles. That’s why life expectancy is low in Nigeria, diabetes is extremely high.
@@ogesworld7783true but those same soups have so much oil, we get things a lot in Nigeria, we’ll fry meat, chicken, plantain, stew. We still add oil to a lot of our soups, ayamase, beans, yam porridge, oil has a lot of calories and it adds up. Our portion sizes also don’t help, someone will eat a mountain of rice with one small piece of meat.
fry things a lot*
I'm petite and i feel body shamed daily.
Even by my mom, i dont like it when she wants me to stuff myself with food, when i'm full.
I enjoyed watching this and appreciate how everyone dropped their opinions respectfully ❤.
I really love this conversation ❤❤❤, Cruise bring another episode on short and tall 😂
23:24 darling skinny shamming dey everywhere oo,unfortunately 😢
It is everywhere. And people need to speak on it more cos apparently the masses are not aware !
Loved this conversation. I like that they also mentioned important factors like PCOS and eating habits which are very important for topics like this. I’m a fitness enthusiast and my own goal was to gain weight. I grew up skinny in Nigeria and I agree that Nigerians are overly critical of people’s bodies.
I enjoyed the video. Can you guys make a video about people with disabilities mental (down syndrome or autism) and physical. Since it’s not really talked about in Nigeria. It will be great to hear they’re perspectives on how they navigate living in Nigeria.
I love all the speakers. Mayowa stands out for me though ❤
🫶🏼Nini a very smart babe , and she is spitting facts 👏👏👏
😂😂😂😂😂
Lol
God I've been waiting for another episode ❤❤
I liked this debate before i watched it because ive been super skinny and super fat... I feel since I gained weight I feel less worried about being carried to where I no know when I walk about at night. But hearing those who did you eat comments to double in size can ruin your day.
Being slim gets body shamed more I remember praying to God as a child to make me fat ,I never knew what being fat or slim meant but I learnt from being body shamed I'd always ask "how do you know when someone is fat or slim"?
I love Anastasia so much speaking for skinny people . Do they know how much people keep saying how skinny people look , it really affected me had to keep eating just to gain weight
The society wants you to be in between
if you’re skinny it a problem, if you’re fat is also a problem
After watching the video I feel like they focused more on fat people and their struggles than slim people. I understood more about the struggles of being plus sized than I did about being skinny. There’s soo much more that skinny people go through mehn😪
Same
If you're skinny and want to add weight, eat food with more calories rather than eating much food with less calories.
Honestly, it’s all in the food. When you start calorie deficit, you’ll see
You should do an episode on light skin vs dark skin, day 32 of asking.
Calling a friend fat is as demeaning as calling a stranger fat
So is the word “fat” wrong? Or not?
NO
What if I say my large or big friend for my fat friends?
@@iamvictorjackthe word isn’t bad. But most times people mean it in a demeaning manner
@@Niri777 I know but the commend I replied to is talking about your “friend” saying you’re fat, it’s still no big deal. It’s the same as a stranger saying you’re fat
It's probably even more demeaning
U can't spend over 15 or 20 years eating and building fat then expect to lose it in a matter of weeks or even days, we hv 2 be realistic and patient with ourselves ❤.
Nini get seeeense👏🏾👏🏾😍What a great conversation!
Whatever your body shape, just find as you go love yourself. Ladies men are fickle. Today it’s slim thick, tomorrow is bbl baddie. Just love yourself, take care of yourself and live your life.
It’s ironic how so many people who once shamed others for being fat are now gaining noticeable weight themselves and proudly calling it being “thick.” Okay baddie.. Whatever rocks your boat.
Fr💯
I know right, the irony 😂
@@Kingofthenet2lol
I have friends on the big side and I can say it is not "always" a choice to lose or gain weight. Yes, you can try your best and truly, it works for some people but there are others that try and some even do times 2 of the work and still their efforts prove futile. Hormonal imbalance is more common than people think and I'm glad people are starting to get enlightened that people are not just fat because they "eat too much". Mayowa made a lot of sense, definitely, one should try their best to keep fit and be consistent with it. Although, I feel he was comparing his own situation of inconsistency to that of people that may have other contributing factors like genetics, pcos, and so on. Being fat doesn't always equate to being unhealthy. One can be big and be healthy.
Well, I just feel it's because of the beauty standard in the world that makes us not comfortable to walk outside cause we feel different or we don't fit in, I'm slim and I struggle to go outside cause I'm scared of what people will say, I can't wear certain clothes cause I'm flat chest and slim, but I feel if people like me are walking freely outside not caring about anything, I'll join them... I seriously love this topic and this channel
21:17
The way bro said "I'm on the skinny side today 😂".
No mind me jare 😅
I have hopes and I truly want to add more flesh. Except that it is very difficult to do healthily
Nini , you are soooo beautiful and you have a great head on your shoulders...
Honestly I was just screaming ' Preach gurllll!!!!!' while you spoke.
We could be friends jare ❤
Ephah thank you and to the other guests also
Exactly nothing like Fat gene
I lost 55kg in 8 months and l was fat from birth.
I can you lose weight too, I’m a Certified Dietitian.
So the fat from birth was given by the food you ate then?
You were fat from birth because it was your gene
You lost weight because you literally pushed hard to loose it and the moment you don’t push it as hard as you do trust me you go back to
And as a certified doctor who knows about more than just food but knows about genes too. There are many genes that control your body weight. So yes, technically, there is "a fat gene"
I would rather agree with Noah saying "poverty is not a choice" than agreeing to "Being fat is not a choice" 😂😂😂
Anyway, let's call a marker, a marker and not a pencil.
Even amidst medical conditions, being fat is most at times a choice if not always.
If you don't want to be accountable for your actions or habits that's left for you.
I mean, most of us might have seen/watched documentary of people who weigh more than 6 of them combined but still decided to lose that weight nonetheless.
MAYBE rephrasing the prompt might help, how about "Being Obese is a Choice" 🙂
Why is it that you don't find fat people during war time or during starvation?
Honestly I experimented eating unhealthy foods sodas, doughnuts and all these fried fast foods for 2months and I increased from 75kg to 87kg.
During this time I was eating like 4-5x a day and eating cakes, sugary foods etc.
My face ballooned, I gained alot of abdominal fat.
The next thing I did was decide to lose that weight. I started an OMAD (One meal a day) diet eating only at 3-4pm. I totally cut out sugar, sodas, bread. There are a lot of things that contain sugar... Mayonnaise, ketchup etc.
I ate more meat and veges and less carbs (rice, yam, beans etc) ans started exercising early in the morning at home.
In 1month I lost all that weight and I'm now 76kg.
So to me it's possible if you want to be consistent in dieting and exercising.
It all comes down to what you put in your body and your activity level.
Sorry to say but a lot of fat people eat higher than the average person. Yeah they're people with medical conditions that cause them to gain weight but it's still linked to food, the fat doesn't just miraculously come from no where.
It's the fact that no matter what you say, everyone insists that if this is how it happens in my body, it's the same for others. People refuse to stop being myopic either way
For many women who have been insulted for their weight and had their ability to find a spouse questioned because of it, please don’t let pressure push you into a marriage just to prove a point. In the end, you’ll be the one left carrying that burden alone.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE STATEMENT LINKING MARRIAGE AND BEING IN A HEALTHY WEIGHT. YOU SAID " GOING INTO MARRIAGE TO PROVE A POINT' WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?
WHAT THAT MEANS IS SOME WOMEN FEEL THE NEED TO PROVE WRONG THOSE WHO SAY THEY WON’T FIND A SPOUSE BECAUSE OF THEIR WEIGHT. IN DOING SO, THEY RUSH INTO MARRIAGES FOR ALL THE WRONG REASONS, JUST TO SILENCE THOSE CRITICS. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION?
Slim people were arguing for fat people, and wow! Lol! I love the conversation. That guy with the Yankees cap is just a troublemaker 😅😂
But both sides are Righttt😫😫😫😫❤
Am appreciate of myself and all plus size and slim person's.
You all are beautiful in your way. Just live life and love life.
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I really believe its not genetics but most family have same eating habit .
Can't wait to relate to this. Let's get right into the videooooooooo😌😌❤️
The girl that shouted when she said 500 pushups 😂😂😂😂
12:21 the eye lift here😂
😂I peeped it too
The man just be like person wey add weight after marriage, he nor fat reach to rep fat ppl
Skinny shaming is a real thing and its as severe as fat shaming. And like some of the participants said it affect skinny people physiologically.
Calling someone fat or skinny can be offensive(depending on how it is said),especially when its something you are insecure about. Like sombody saying "you have a big nose" it would be offensive to someone that is insecure about it but its descriptive. And sometimes these things are said in a very hurtful way that would increase ones insecurity. As people we just need to be careful when we speak about sensitive stuff (wether you are just decribing the person or not)
Cruise kinda took more time handpicking this people... everybody passing their point without necessarily tryin to make anybody less of their selves.
And yhhh Ephah is such a fineeeee woman🥺🥺🥺
29:07 extremely good point, that’s why skinny shaming is not taken as serious as fat shaming. It’s definitely more socially accepted.
I love Anatasia input❤
@jointhecruise …. Consider doing a video on colorism in Nigeria. Especially among the dark skinned community.