UPDATE!! From an email I received from someone at the Museum of Natural History: “I did some digging into the museum records and found that we are still caring for Nellie's remains after all these years. Unfortunately, as is sadly too common with old museums, most of her history had been lost over the past hundred+ years and was no longer a part of her records. However, because of your video I was able to pull together documentation from your sources and sent them along to the person in charge of the mammal collections and we have added her history back into the records. It is possible that without your video Nellie's history may have been lost forever, and that her body may have remained labeled with a simple number and not by her name. Now she has both.” This is her public record: collections.nmnh.si.edu/search/mammals/?ark=ark:/65665/30bc945ca8ce94a97a4d453ea2b051b96
So the "prodigy" thing is actually an old definition: it used to mean "an omen" or "an unusual being". Over time, English speakers started referring to only the smart prodigies as "prodigies". Basically, they were saying thems bingopodes be cursed.
It kinda works a bit, but you need to breed the double recessive cat with a LOT of different cats and then breed those kids together. The ones that get the double recessive gene and no glaring health problems get bred with a bunch of different cats, and their kids get bred with their cousins and you take the naked ones without health problems and call that a breed.
@@TheGrinningVikingthat scenario only really works if there's only 1 cat around with that trait. Else, that's still way too much inbreeding until you're many generations in.
trying to keep the rare breed alive doesn't work, animals will degenerate. But keeping a specific trait alive works. Instead of trying to safekeep some ancient breed it's just more natural and humane to create new breeds based off old ones, like we do with cows and such
My takeaway from this is that it doesn't matter what year you're in or where you stand in society, people will send you cat photos and you will like it.
I'm pretty sure 'ancient Aztec breed gifted to us' is code for 'our cat had some weird looking kittens and we thought we'd make up an interesting backstory for them.'
Honestly, the victorian raggedy cat shows isn't too far off from people online showing their scruffiest cats with unique life stories that people always adore
The victoriana didn't have social media to share stories about their funky little goobers, so they had to meet up to talk about them and show them off instead.
oh also fun fact: shiprecked cats are a thing because ships would often keep a cat on their ship to control rats and cockroaches, so there was less risk of disease
@@sHmOyOhO8902 Sturdiness is an in-game status effect and it can often be gained by the consumption of certain items. The effect can also be specified depending on the item group. To what degree a player gains it is determined by their species and breed.
@@sHmOyOhO8902 lemme talk about cockroaches for a sec cuz i think they're neat, they may be known for their hardiness and certainly the few species that are considered pests are, but not all cockroaches thrive in harsh conditions. if a wood roach for example gets in your house, it would die within a day because it's not humid enough, it dies of dehydration. wood roaches are honestly sweeties, they don't infest homes, they're not inclined to bite, they're not particularly terrified of us(so no frantic scuttling) and they're one of the cleaner bugs since they live in leaf litter and not sewage!
Absolutely obsessed with this bingus lore. most of the dog breed origin stories are like "medieval royalty bred them to hunt hares and frighten peasants" or "lord mcdingus created them to run through hedges" so the idea that a cat breed was created in the 70s purely because people thought their baldness was cute is delightful. Kind of wild that something that was created so recently is so poorly documented though
honestly the descriptions in the book of the cat brought me so much joy. i never thought what i was missing in my life was victorian-era writing describing the various shenanigans that one encounters when owning a sphynx cat. thank you, master strange, for this blessing edit: OH MY GOD I WOULD DIE FOR NONESUCH WHAT
nothing tickles me more than the thought that Throughout Human Existence, we have had our little four legged friends around because they're just so neat, we've painted them, we've written about them, we've loved them. essential human being things
My favorite “maternal impression + early breeders being idiots” story is that during the emergence of the Ragdoll breed (selectively bred for docility, trademarked?!!?, it’s a whole thing) people were genuinely convinced that the docility was because the founding mother of the breed was a pregnant cat who was hit by a car
I got a pair of ragdoll cross kittens (their mum is full ragdoll, their dad is passing Tom she hooked up with when she escaped the house). And someone told us to not let small children near them because the small children would maul and hurt them and they wouldn't put up a fight. Yes, they are floppy and friendly and fluffy, but they definitely put up a fight if you take it too far.
@@bethanybrookes8479I have a cat who’s shockingly tolerant of pestering. She’s never hissed at or scratched anyone in the 5 years I’ve had her. She’s an American shorthair mix. Cats have a lot of personality and individuality
extremely unfounded guess here but maybe your kitties display the opposite hair growth to the seasons bc they're inside most of the time. so the cold from the aircon in the summer and warmth from the heaters in the winter is like a mini version of their own inverse seasons. i'm probably not right! but maybe
@@emmanarotzky6565 yeah i wake up shivering because i leave my fan on blasting cold night air into my room just because i hate summer heat lol (i don't have pets btw)
Probably not, but interesting. Maybe you've heard the phrase of a pet "shedding their winter coat"? The coat, the fur and its growth is actually _different_ it's not just replacing one-to-one the same hair. That's why they shed seasonally. Thicker winter coat with different hair densities, which need to be shed so as to not overheat in summer, etc. I think the fur appearing to change for the opposite seasons actually *isn't* - I bet it's actually the different hair for the summer that manages to grow more than the winter coat does. Would be interesting to know! I think that'd probably be related to the genes causing the hairlessness in the first place too! 🤔
This is sometimes the case with Winter white hamsters that normally turn white in the winter but will sometimes turn white in the summer because of the inverse indoor temperatures
See there-Devon Rex, The tin mine king! He's got a curly coat, And he doesn't know a thing! He has a hundred children, With pillows on their feets, And sometimes in the winter, They run naked through the streets!
Dermis and Epidermis are perfect names for hairless cats. I'm still on the fence about health consequences for alopecia'd versions of god's cutest predators, but I was happy to see how well loved yours are.
Honestly i can't blame the victorians for being interested in ship wrecked cats. Cat shows full of cats with funky life stories that are now living the best most pampered life? Sign me up, i wanna hear about One Eyed Stinker, Bastard Child of Distruction and Mayham (Hammy/Mayham/Bastard for short), and their 3 legged sister, Queen of the Mast
As a very allergic person - no cat or dog is truly hypoallergenic unfortunately. I actually found these little guys to be worse since they're dropping hair more often. Still cuties though!!!
Weirdly enough a high content wolf dog or hybrid wildcat would be hypoallergenic. As a different species wolves and wildcats produce entirely different allergins compared to their domestic counterparts.
So far nobody with cat allergies that ventured willingly into our apartment has reacted to our bengals. They tend to produce less of the enzyme people usually are allergic to. They have fur and it's very soft but it's really not the fur itself that causes the issues.
The Nonesuch dog theory (I dont remember its actual name ) was the reason that John Merrick was billed "the Elephant Man". The story went that his mother had been frightened by an elephant while he was in utero, resulting his condition. 🤔
“The last survivors of an ancient Aztec breed, gifted to me by the local Pueblo people” is like saying “the last survivors of an ancient Italian breed, gifted to me by the local Irishmen” Edit: Odin almighty, y’all are dense. Yes, long-distance trade networks were a thing, but how likely is it that the Pueblo people would be able to keep an ancient Aztec breed? Also, the phrase “ancient Aztec” is laughable. The Aztec empire didn’t start until the 1300s. I’d hardly call that ancient. And, say that the Pueblo people got these Aztec cats in 1600 (generous estimate, considering the Aztec empire fell 80 years prior). If this breed of cats is important enough to keep alive for centuries, why in hell would they give the last survivors to a random white guy? The whole story is ridiculous, and it’s compounded by geographic distance (even with trade networks), as well as the differing climate. If these cats were bred for the humid climate of central Mexico, how in heck would these binguses survive in the harshly sunny, dry desert climate of the American southwest?
The cat thing is definitely not true, but the Pueblo people did have trade with mesoamerican cultures. Did the victorians know that? Probably not, they probably just didn't care enough to differentiate. Still a Pueblo person could have legit Aztec items which is really cool
yeah the Nahua and Pueblo peoples did have trade, but that doesn’t disqualify the original post because so did Italy and Ireland. How do you think the Irish became Catholic?
Philology nerd moment: In the Boston post article, "prodigies" is the intended term. Here its use means extremely unusual, in the same sense in which we call an extremely and precociously talented person a prodigy. So the Boston Post writer was calling the hairless cats prodigies in the sense of "highly out of the ordinary". The parable of the prodigal son in the bible is also pointing to this meaning; it's not normal for a son to 1. Ask his father for his inheritance before he's dead, and 2. For the same son to be accepted back into the paternal household. You can also see the use of the word in terms like "prodigiously wealthy."
I can respect that, just wanted to add that most of today's pets and farm animals are heavily bred/genetically modified, as are the vegetables, fruits, roots etc that we eat. Again, I'm not trying to challenge your perception, but wanted to balance it out by adding that without heavy breeding, humanity wouldn't be able to feed itself or have domesticated companions.
I feel like they're coming from a place more like "hey it's fucked up that we inbred this animal over and over again just because we think it's cool" and not "all breeding is bad". Like yeah who cares about vegetables being heavily bred, there's an actual reason for it and all the fucked up offspring we didn't get right can't feel pain.
@@realrebelli0nYup- ALL our food is genetically modified by design, for thousands of years, via selective breeding. Has it always been ethical and sound? Oh absolutely tf not. But it occurred and we now know to be very careful with breeding willy nilly.
@@realrebelli0nOne thing I'd note is for a long time, animals were bred and selected for a good degree of physical fitness and survival because you know, you can't have a working dog that doesn't work, or a cow that dies before it can give you milk. A lot of modern pet breeding is highly controlled for aesthetics or selective traits regardless of the physical fitness of the animals involved. That's not to say that breeding other animals hasn't caused issues in them in the past (sheep need to be sheared or will suffer, iirc), but the focus on productive and working animals means that they're much more overall healthy than, say, a modern pug. EDIT: To be clear, I'm not a vegan and just talking from my own viewpoint. Vegans will probably still find a lot wrong with how we've bred many animals like sheep and cows, but I'm talking respective to show animals.
I'd love to see you do a video on the messed up history of the lykoi cat breed. There was some really unethical breeding stuff going on there and I'd like if more people knew about it before they bought the breed. Also lots of drama. It's a little outside of your wheelhouse since you don't own a lykoi, but if you feel like delving into more weird little guy history I think it'd be a good topic.
as an opposite bingus cat owner (my kitty is siberian and very, VERY hairy) i absolutely ADORE binguses and turns out their story is weird asf just like them lmaooo
As someone who’s very interested in genetics (literally going to college for it), this vid was so interesting to watch! Animal genetics are so fascinating
I love that this video shows not only the evolution of the sphynx cat, but also how we name cats! From regular human names to Nonesuch, Bambi, Prune and DERMIS AND EPIDERMIS
Maternal impression was a complicated thing, but it wasn't purely bad. It was often used as an excuse by midwives to protect newborn babies who are clearly not biologically related to the husband. I know of one story from renaissance italy where a couple who owned a cafe had a baby who was not white, and the midwife got really angry at the husband for letting his wife work all the way through the pregnancy, and if she didn't have to look at coffee for days at the time the baby would look more like the husband. Its really interesting if you look into it more, it's not always as misogynistic as the concept first appears.
Genetics are such it's possible for two "white" ppl to have "dark skinned baby". However, very interesting point! Good things and bad from those beliefs for sure.
Historical concepts are weird like that but It can still be a misogynist concept and have accidentally stumbled on that benefit. It’s a credit more to the women at the time being able to ask for autonomy and authority using backwards logic than it is on how “good” the theory is. If a theory is vague, there’s bound to be some “good” results but that’s not due to the theory being right, more a specific context and circumstances of when it is being invoked. An example is that’s why more extreme feminists ask for the patriarchy to be dismantled, because we aren’t truly free of the limits of misogyny in their view because we have simply just adapted it into every facet of our lives that it is impossible to seperate.
I didn't own a Sphynx breed, but I did recently put down my sweet Bunni, (Born on easter for the name, she was put down because she couldn't walk anymore) this week. This video helped me a lot. I miss her so much. Please, hug your babies for me. Whether they be Cats, Dogs, Snakes, Lizards, Spiders, or even Human, you'll never know when the last moments will be. Love while you can, they deserve it.
I actually encountered a litter of kittens (c. 2001) that had a random hairless kitten in it! Funny to think that a quarter century earlier, obsessive cat fanciers would have been coming out of the woodwork to offer hundreds of dollars for the naked boi
I think they grow more hair in the summer because you have air conditioning and you live in canada, so in the house they would be spending time by the warm heaters during the winter and then be actually colder when your using the air conditioning in the summer
"These are the firsr hairless cats ever photographed, ...and their names are Nellie and Dick." My partner and I got a kick out of this. 😂 Gotta love 1893-95 and people who name their cat Dick, even back when it was still just short for Richard.
DUDE. my cat isn't a bingus, just a shelter long hair, but she also does the grow more hair in summer thing?!?! i don't understand it! i want to cuddle a fluffy cat in the winter, not the summer, damn it! whatever. she's cute.
Wh have Ancient Egyptian heyroglyphics not only depicting cats in high positions, but telling us about cats personally owned by pharos. We have mummified cats, that people went the full length of going through the whole lengthy process of creating ancient Egyptian style mummy's to pay their respects to little fluffy's (made up name) life. It's been going on for millennia. I think the only places I heard of where cats weren't treated great is medieval England, where people would just brick a living cat into their walls when building the house for good luck, leaving the little guy to starve and die, or potentially be buried alive by the building process. Or the fate of black cats, which in much of the western world were (and still are to some extent) considered unlucky. There's probably more, tbh. It's kinda sad.
A comment for the algorithm gods! Regarding prodigy vs. progeny at 8:30: 'progeny' is most likely not a typo - in the context of the text, it can refer to an individual who is somehow unique or singular, i.e. a hairless cat. 'Progeny' could also work in that statement, but that would make the sentence grammatically awkward.
I'm picturing lil old cat ladies finding this channel through this video and then checking out the other uploads, falling down the rabbit hole of hobbit sex.
hairless cats are like eldritch deities to me. scientists trying to bring forth this secret gene that shows up from time to time like the effects of some greater being leaking between worlds as they foolishly attempt to pry open the cracks. love them 💕
my favorite videos of yours are the ones where you just go ham researching a random obscure topic completely out of nowhere so this was a delightful 30 minutes.
For a second I thought you said "the bambino, the elf, the Guelph..." and I was like there is a *surprising* amount of cancon up in these weird-haired cats.
when i finally get a sphynx cat, i’m naming them nonesuch. it’s just a great name for the goofy lil guys edit: i looked up the meaning of nonesuch and it’s absolutely perfect for a sphynx cat. the oxford dictionary definition: “a person or thing that is regarded as perfect or excellent.” the lil goobers are definitely exemplary, so the name is fitting
I love hairless cats, what they lack in hair they make up for in ✨️charisma✨️ Yeah, i recently learned theres a breed of hairless dogs too. They look just as weird as the cats, so i assume theyre just as charismaric
I love sphynxes! I didn't realize they were such a recent breed. Alas, as I almost always adopt rescues or shelter cats, I'm unlikely to have my very own bingus any time soon. But I guess you never know! Considering they are kind of a weird breed, maybe someone in my area will decide sphyxes are not for them and I'll get lucky, lol
nonesuch has neurodivergent energy ngl like the weird one in a normal litter? develops at a different rate to the "normal" cats? is shunned for not being enough like a cat? literally younger me, nonesuch is now my favourite cat 10/10 good creature
honestly the best part of this was hearing "they come from cats bred in toronto with cats from minnesota" and just thinking... yeah... that tracks. those seem like where the bingus would be invented.
my friend has like two sphynx (i think) cats and one of them has gotten pregnant twice in like over a year with adorable baby binguses that I got the honor of holding when I visited them.
Thank you for your wisdom but I already knew this- freddles the 9000 year old sphinx that lives in my floorboards whispered this arcane knowledge into my ears last night while I slept he appreciates you, I think? Its hard to tell past the chanting (Don't ask me why I typed this, idk. excellent video, thanks for the knowledge)
"a catdog from north carolina" yeah I've also been described like that i'm watching this alongside my regular-haired baby black panther (an absolute apex predator... he's just eepy right now)
I kinda love how you'll read an old account of someone's cat and they're gushing about every aspect of their cats the same way we do in the modern day.
"IT WAS THE FRENCH!" This was the video I didn't know I needed. I need more breed history breakdowns now. there's gotta be some niche accounts out there lol
This video makes me so happy, it was so interesting to learn about! I read an old book about cats (from the 1960’s or so) and it still cited the maternal impression theory as the case of why ragdoll cats are so docile (something about the founding mother of the breed having been in a car accident and gotten very frightened, so naturally her kittens would be very meek) as absolute fact. A friend of mine is a taxidermist, and he’s found a lot of strange old stuff where people thought they’d found (or tried to trick others that they’d found) hybrid animals, one such being a wolf-bear hybrid that just looks like a really messed-up bear (with some illness/birth defect). My two cats are 100% moggies, since they’re rescues so I have absolutely no idea of their parentage. They’re still perfect and incredible boys, just like every other cat out there.
UPDATE!!
From an email I received from someone at the Museum of Natural History:
“I did some digging into the museum records and found that we are still caring for Nellie's remains after all these years.
Unfortunately, as is sadly too common with old museums, most of her history had been lost over the past hundred+ years and was no longer a part of her records. However, because of your video I was able to pull together documentation from your sources and sent them along to the person in charge of the mammal collections and we have added her history back into the records. It is possible that without your video Nellie's history may have been lost forever, and that her body may have remained labeled with a simple number and not by her name. Now she has both.”
This is her public record: collections.nmnh.si.edu/search/mammals/?ark=ark:/65665/30bc945ca8ce94a97a4d453ea2b051b96
Historical records are so important, and it's so great that your silly little bingus history video helped preserve another part of it!
So wholesome
This genuinely makes me so happy ❤
This is so cool, I can't even explain
YAYY STRANGE!! This is why recording history is so so important. Wow.
So the "prodigy" thing is actually an old definition: it used to mean "an omen" or "an unusual being". Over time, English speakers started referring to only the smart prodigies as "prodigies".
Basically, they were saying thems bingopodes be cursed.
Or blessed.
@@ticklezcat5191 blursed bingus cats
Fun fact: The shift in meaning to a more positive word is called an amelioration :) love semantics (mostly)
But why not progeny
whoa i wonder if The Prodigy knew that when they made their song Omen
Oh how I wish to be described as “about the queerest living creature one could hope to set eyes upon”
life goals tbh
This story is just a bunch of breeders finding out that inbreeding doesn't work over and over and over again
And yet.... the story keeps repeating itself today 😩
It kinda works a bit, but you need to breed the double recessive cat with a LOT of different cats and then breed those kids together. The ones that get the double recessive gene and no glaring health problems get bred with a bunch of different cats, and their kids get bred with their cousins and you take the naked ones without health problems and call that a breed.
@@TheGrinningVikingthat scenario only really works if there's only 1 cat around with that trait. Else, that's still way too much inbreeding until you're many generations in.
trying to keep the rare breed alive doesn't work, animals will degenerate. But keeping a specific trait alive works. Instead of trying to safekeep some ancient breed it's just more natural and humane to create new breeds based off old ones, like we do with cows and such
@@Muffinsthe3rdAnd it’ll continue until people stop paying breeders money for these inbred/brachycephalic breeds.
My takeaway from this is that it doesn't matter what year you're in or where you stand in society, people will send you cat photos and you will like it.
I'm pretty sure 'ancient Aztec breed gifted to us' is code for 'our cat had some weird looking kittens and we thought we'd make up an interesting backstory for them.'
I don’t know sounds like someone gave them an ocelot lol
Honestly, the victorian raggedy cat shows isn't too far off from people online showing their scruffiest cats with unique life stories that people always adore
The victoriana didn't have social media to share stories about their funky little goobers, so they had to meet up to talk about them and show them off instead.
We all love one eyed stink he lives on in our hearts and still walks with us in spirit
oh also fun fact: shiprecked cats are a thing because ships would often keep a cat on their ship to control rats and cockroaches, so there was less risk of disease
So the cats survived the shipwrecks cause they absorbed cockroach hardiness by eating them? That’s clearly the only explanation.
@@sHmOyOhO8902
Sturdiness is an in-game status effect and it can often be gained by the consumption of certain items. The effect can also be specified depending on the item group.
To what degree a player gains it is determined by their species and breed.
The black plague iirc was spurred by the systematic killing of cats (because witches) leading to a rat population explosion.
that’s also why jack russell’s were bred
@@sHmOyOhO8902 lemme talk about cockroaches for a sec cuz i think they're neat, they may be known for their hardiness and certainly the few species that are considered pests are, but not all cockroaches thrive in harsh conditions. if a wood roach for example gets in your house, it would die within a day because it's not humid enough, it dies of dehydration. wood roaches are honestly sweeties, they don't infest homes, they're not inclined to bite, they're not particularly terrified of us(so no frantic scuttling) and they're one of the cleaner bugs since they live in leaf litter and not sewage!
Dermis and Epidermis is honestly brilliant names for hairless cats lol
A sphynx cat ate my brother in law
same
What an honor!
Good for him
When do I get to sacrafice my brother in law to our sphinx overlords?
i hope your brother gets well soon
Absolutely obsessed with this bingus lore. most of the dog breed origin stories are like "medieval royalty bred them to hunt hares and frighten peasants" or "lord mcdingus created them to run through hedges" so the idea that a cat breed was created in the 70s purely because people thought their baldness was cute is delightful. Kind of wild that something that was created so recently is so poorly documented though
I can’t believe you didn’t mention the headline “Puss is a nudist!” 💀
I lost my shit when I saw it as an aussie
honestly the descriptions in the book of the cat brought me so much joy. i never thought what i was missing in my life was victorian-era writing describing the various shenanigans that one encounters when owning a sphynx cat. thank you, master strange, for this blessing
edit: OH MY GOD I WOULD DIE FOR NONESUCH WHAT
nothing tickles me more than the thought that Throughout Human Existence, we have had our little four legged friends around because they're just so neat, we've painted them, we've written about them, we've loved them. essential human being things
Cat posts of modern-day social media, but in the manners of old-fashioned erudite learned men and women. So pompous, and yet... so relatable.
My favorite “maternal impression + early breeders being idiots” story is that during the emergence of the Ragdoll breed (selectively bred for docility, trademarked?!!?, it’s a whole thing) people were genuinely convinced that the docility was because the founding mother of the breed was a pregnant cat who was hit by a car
I got a pair of ragdoll cross kittens (their mum is full ragdoll, their dad is passing Tom she hooked up with when she escaped the house). And someone told us to not let small children near them because the small children would maul and hurt them and they wouldn't put up a fight.
Yes, they are floppy and friendly and fluffy, but they definitely put up a fight if you take it too far.
@@bethanybrookes8479I have a cat who’s shockingly tolerant of pestering. She’s never hissed at or scratched anyone in the 5 years I’ve had her. She’s an American shorthair mix. Cats have a lot of personality and individuality
extremely unfounded guess here but maybe your kitties display the opposite hair growth to the seasons bc they're inside most of the time. so the cold from the aircon in the summer and warmth from the heaters in the winter is like a mini version of their own inverse seasons. i'm probably not right! but maybe
That was my guess, I think humans sometimes try to keep houses colder in summer and warmer in winter instead of ‘room temperature’ year round
@@emmanarotzky6565 yeah i wake up shivering because i leave my fan on blasting cold night air into my room just because i hate summer heat lol (i don't have pets btw)
my sphynx has more hair now than he did at the beginning of the summer, so I think you may be onto something
Probably not, but interesting. Maybe you've heard the phrase of a pet "shedding their winter coat"? The coat, the fur and its growth is actually _different_ it's not just replacing one-to-one the same hair. That's why they shed seasonally. Thicker winter coat with different hair densities, which need to be shed so as to not overheat in summer, etc.
I think the fur appearing to change for the opposite seasons actually *isn't* - I bet it's actually the different hair for the summer that manages to grow more than the winter coat does. Would be interesting to know! I think that'd probably be related to the genes causing the hairlessness in the first place too! 🤔
This is sometimes the case with Winter white hamsters that normally turn white in the winter but will sometimes turn white in the summer because of the inverse indoor temperatures
See there-Devon Rex,
The tin mine king!
He's got a curly coat,
And he doesn't know a thing!
He has a hundred children,
With pillows on their feets,
And sometimes in the winter,
They run naked through the streets!
❤
Now this is poetry in its purest form.
Love it 💖
I adore this
I met a sphynx cat for the first time earlier this week! It was a DELIGHTFUL experience.
They feel really cool and they can be very sweet cats sometimes. Those broiled chicken skin Bingi
My cousins have a wonderfully skittish boy named Tiberius and he's the most stinky sphinx to have ever lived
Dermis and Epidermis are perfect names for hairless cats. I'm still on the fence about health consequences for alopecia'd versions of god's cutest predators, but I was happy to see how well loved yours are.
I haven't seen many warnings about the breed that aren't also problems for many other breeds. Sun burn is the big outlier, of course
Honestly i can't blame the victorians for being interested in ship wrecked cats. Cat shows full of cats with funky life stories that are now living the best most pampered life? Sign me up, i wanna hear about One Eyed Stinker, Bastard Child of Distruction and Mayham (Hammy/Mayham/Bastard for short), and their 3 legged sister, Queen of the Mast
I know strange thinks this is out of her wheelhouse for videos but like nuggets or of obscure knowledge is totally her bag in my opinion!
I was gonna comment this exact same thing - this is 100% on brand and I’m here for it
As a very allergic person - no cat or dog is truly hypoallergenic unfortunately. I actually found these little guys to be worse since they're dropping hair more often. Still cuties though!!!
Plus a lot of animal allergies are triggered by skin, not hair.
Very cute, this is the main thing that's preventing me from getting one. They need serious skin care routines AND make my allergies worse!
Weirdly enough a high content wolf dog or hybrid wildcat would be hypoallergenic. As a different species wolves and wildcats produce entirely different allergins compared to their domestic counterparts.
It's proteins in the saliva that does it
So far nobody with cat allergies that ventured willingly into our apartment has reacted to our bengals. They tend to produce less of the enzyme people usually are allergic to. They have fur and it's very soft but it's really not the fur itself that causes the issues.
My literal favorite thing is watching people talk about their special interest and this video was like Christmas.
as someone invested in rabbit husbandry this kind of video is right up my alley!! it's awesome that you're sharing this information ^w^
What about clown husbandry? 🤓
@@clukkeful they take up more space than i have available to me unfortunately 💔
!!! are there any videos on rabbit husbandry you would recommend?? i love rabbits
@@youraveragearmy id recommend the channel The Rabbit Show!!
@@youraveragearmyI'm not sure you'll still love rabbits after those videos. I know I'll never be the same...
I swear to you it's true! I once left a sphynx cat alone with my infant and when I came back the baby had learned hyroglifics!
The Nonesuch dog theory (I dont remember its actual name ) was the reason that John Merrick was billed "the Elephant Man". The story went that his mother had been frightened by an elephant while he was in utero, resulting his condition. 🤔
The maternal impression theory! Edit: should have waited till I hit that part of the video lol
“The last survivors of an ancient Aztec breed, gifted to me by the local Pueblo people” is like saying “the last survivors of an ancient Italian breed, gifted to me by the local Irishmen”
Edit: Odin almighty, y’all are dense. Yes, long-distance trade networks were a thing, but how likely is it that the Pueblo people would be able to keep an ancient Aztec breed?
Also, the phrase “ancient Aztec” is laughable. The Aztec empire didn’t start until the 1300s. I’d hardly call that ancient.
And, say that the Pueblo people got these Aztec cats in 1600 (generous estimate, considering the Aztec empire fell 80 years prior). If this breed of cats is important enough to keep alive for centuries, why in hell would they give the last survivors to a random white guy?
The whole story is ridiculous, and it’s compounded by geographic distance (even with trade networks), as well as the differing climate. If these cats were bred for the humid climate of central Mexico, how in heck would these binguses survive in the harshly sunny, dry desert climate of the American southwest?
The cat thing is definitely not true, but the Pueblo people did have trade with mesoamerican cultures. Did the victorians know that? Probably not, they probably just didn't care enough to differentiate. Still a Pueblo person could have legit Aztec items which is really cool
yes that is how trading works
Lol “indigenous peoples never met or had trade networks” is a wild take that I didn’t think I’d see here
Weren't the Aztecs known for their long distance trading and marketplaces??? Lmfao
yeah the Nahua and Pueblo peoples did have trade, but that doesn’t disqualify the original post because so did Italy and Ireland. How do you think the Irish became Catholic?
Philology nerd moment:
In the Boston post article, "prodigies" is the intended term. Here its use means extremely unusual, in the same sense in which we call an extremely and precociously talented person a prodigy. So the Boston Post writer was calling the hairless cats prodigies in the sense of "highly out of the ordinary". The parable of the prodigal son in the bible is also pointing to this meaning; it's not normal for a son to 1. Ask his father for his inheritance before he's dead, and 2. For the same son to be accepted back into the paternal household.
You can also see the use of the word in terms like "prodigiously wealthy."
This video was made specifically to entertain my neurons based on the title alone and I am HERE for it
Always found animal breeding icky but never learned much about cat breeding thanks for sharing.
I can respect that, just wanted to add that most of today's pets and farm animals are heavily bred/genetically modified, as are the vegetables, fruits, roots etc that we eat. Again, I'm not trying to challenge your perception, but wanted to balance it out by adding that without heavy breeding, humanity wouldn't be able to feed itself or have domesticated companions.
I feel like they're coming from a place more like "hey it's fucked up that we inbred this animal over and over again just because we think it's cool" and not "all breeding is bad". Like yeah who cares about vegetables being heavily bred, there's an actual reason for it and all the fucked up offspring we didn't get right can't feel pain.
@@realrebelli0nYup- ALL our food is genetically modified by design, for thousands of years, via selective breeding.
Has it always been ethical and sound? Oh absolutely tf not. But it occurred and we now know to be very careful with breeding willy nilly.
@@realrebelli0n well, the veggies and fruits do not experience suffering no matter what we do with 'em, so there's a bit of a difference there
@@realrebelli0nOne thing I'd note is for a long time, animals were bred and selected for a good degree of physical fitness and survival because you know, you can't have a working dog that doesn't work, or a cow that dies before it can give you milk. A lot of modern pet breeding is highly controlled for aesthetics or selective traits regardless of the physical fitness of the animals involved. That's not to say that breeding other animals hasn't caused issues in them in the past (sheep need to be sheared or will suffer, iirc), but the focus on productive and working animals means that they're much more overall healthy than, say, a modern pug.
EDIT: To be clear, I'm not a vegan and just talking from my own viewpoint. Vegans will probably still find a lot wrong with how we've bred many animals like sheep and cows, but I'm talking respective to show animals.
BRB building a Time Machine so I can go back in time and give Nonesuch a little kiss on the head
I'd love to see you do a video on the messed up history of the lykoi cat breed. There was some really unethical breeding stuff going on there and I'd like if more people knew about it before they bought the breed. Also lots of drama. It's a little outside of your wheelhouse since you don't own a lykoi, but if you feel like delving into more weird little guy history I think it'd be a good topic.
Commenting to bump, I'm so so interested in that
Please, this would be fascinating!
Yes!
yes please!!!!
Commenting to bump! Yes please!
showing all the kitties everyone's sphynx cat descended from at the end kind of just awed me. I agree, cat breeding is indeed wild
as an opposite bingus cat owner (my kitty is siberian and very, VERY hairy) i absolutely ADORE binguses and turns out their story is weird asf just like them lmaooo
As someone who’s very interested in genetics (literally going to college for it), this vid was so interesting to watch! Animal genetics are so fascinating
I'm sorry, but aren't all genetics animal genetics?
@@SpinyAlbatrossNope! There’s floral genetics, fungal genetics, hell even bacteria and archaea have genes
I love that the Roosevelt story proves that the human instinct of "I wanna see that cat" goes all the way to the top
Petition to bring back the term "MOON CAT"
"I know this video is kind of weird and out of my usual wheelhouse" Strange this is exactly your usual wheelhouse
I love that this video shows not only the evolution of the sphynx cat, but also how we name cats! From regular human names to Nonesuch, Bambi, Prune and DERMIS AND EPIDERMIS
18:18 “is about the queerest little creature one could hope to set eyes upon” is probably something people say about me
same
I adopted a kitten with one eye and if I had known the name "One-Eyed Stink" that would surely be her name now.
Maternal impression was a complicated thing, but it wasn't purely bad. It was often used as an excuse by midwives to protect newborn babies who are clearly not biologically related to the husband. I know of one story from renaissance italy where a couple who owned a cafe had a baby who was not white, and the midwife got really angry at the husband for letting his wife work all the way through the pregnancy, and if she didn't have to look at coffee for days at the time the baby would look more like the husband. Its really interesting if you look into it more, it's not always as misogynistic as the concept first appears.
Genetics are such it's possible for two "white" ppl to have "dark skinned baby". However, very interesting point! Good things and bad from those beliefs for sure.
Historical concepts are weird like that but It can still be a misogynist concept and have accidentally stumbled on that benefit. It’s a credit more to the women at the time being able to ask for autonomy and authority using backwards logic than it is on how “good” the theory is. If a theory is vague, there’s bound to be some “good” results but that’s not due to the theory being right, more a specific context and circumstances of when it is being invoked. An example is that’s why more extreme feminists ask for the patriarchy to be dismantled, because we aren’t truly free of the limits of misogyny in their view because we have simply just adapted it into every facet of our lives that it is impossible to seperate.
Honestly big respect to One Eyed Stink. He deserves the greatest honor of his princeliness. 👑 what a king!
Imagine owning a Sphynx (moon cat) and a Lykoi (wolf cat) for the ultimate werewolf themed pet combo
Thank you Mother Strange for introducing us to the mystical world of Sphynx cats
I didn't own a Sphynx breed, but I did recently put down my sweet Bunni, (Born on easter for the name, she was put down because she couldn't walk anymore) this week. This video helped me a lot. I miss her so much. Please, hug your babies for me. Whether they be Cats, Dogs, Snakes, Lizards, Spiders, or even Human, you'll never know when the last moments will be. Love while you can, they deserve it.
I actually encountered a litter of kittens (c. 2001) that had a random hairless kitten in it! Funny to think that a quarter century earlier, obsessive cat fanciers would have been coming out of the woodwork to offer hundreds of dollars for the naked boi
I'm dying at the Minnesota chickens named Epidermis and Dermis. That lady's friggin awesome and we love her.
I swear to god, I wasn’t expecting a lesson on the bingus, but I am here for it.
I love how they gave the Australian one a cute little cardigan to keep her "decent"
I think they grow more hair in the summer because you have air conditioning and you live in canada, so in the house they would be spending time by the warm heaters during the winter and then be actually colder when your using the air conditioning in the summer
If there's any one reason an animal might get hairy in the summer, it might be to protect them from the sun, especially if the coat is short and light
Nonesuch is actually a quite funny name for a cat, imo.
I love Nonesuch, she's perfect 🥺
Let's have a moment of silence for Dick whose curiosity literally killed the cat. 😢
I absolutely love the name nonesuch. It’s such an amazing name, I hope to one day have a cat called nonesuch.
This video has been spesifically made for me, thank you for feeding me this goo of the gods uncle strange.
You'd be surprised how many French discoveries are ignored in favor of their anglo counterparts, the salt runs deep.
It's cause you smell like garlic and eat frogs.
my friends and i look at a picture of a hairless cat and call it bnumpy ungus, so i can't wait to infodump this back to them
"These are the firsr hairless cats ever photographed,
...and their names are Nellie and Dick."
My partner and I got a kick out of this. 😂 Gotta love 1893-95 and people who name their cat Dick, even back when it was still just short for Richard.
DUDE. my cat isn't a bingus, just a shelter long hair, but she also does the grow more hair in summer thing?!?! i don't understand it! i want to cuddle a fluffy cat in the winter, not the summer, damn it! whatever. she's cute.
If you have air conditioning and heating in your house, that may be the cause. AC in the summer and heat on in winter.
@@avery581 no AC, but we do have central heat in the winter, so that could be part of it!
So basically, everyone has loved cats throughout all of history and it’s never going to change, I think I got it
Wh have Ancient Egyptian heyroglyphics not only depicting cats in high positions, but telling us about cats personally owned by pharos. We have mummified cats, that people went the full length of going through the whole lengthy process of creating ancient Egyptian style mummy's to pay their respects to little fluffy's (made up name) life.
It's been going on for millennia.
I think the only places I heard of where cats weren't treated great is medieval England, where people would just brick a living cat into their walls when building the house for good luck, leaving the little guy to starve and die, or potentially be buried alive by the building process. Or the fate of black cats, which in much of the western world were (and still are to some extent) considered unlucky.
There's probably more, tbh. It's kinda sad.
A comment for the algorithm gods! Regarding prodigy vs. progeny at 8:30: 'progeny' is most likely not a typo - in the context of the text, it can refer to an individual who is somehow unique or singular, i.e. a hairless cat. 'Progeny' could also work in that statement, but that would make the sentence grammatically awkward.
I absolutely LOVE all the names people came up with for their hairless cats!
I'm picturing lil old cat ladies finding this channel through this video and then checking out the other uploads, falling down the rabbit hole of hobbit sex.
hairless cats are like eldritch deities to me. scientists trying to bring forth this secret gene that shows up from time to time like the effects of some greater being leaking between worlds as they foolishly attempt to pry open the cracks. love them 💕
hearing a historical interview about some aristocrat admiring his bingi made my night tbh.
my favorite videos of yours are the ones where you just go ham researching a random obscure topic completely out of nowhere so this was a delightful 30 minutes.
For a second I thought you said "the bambino, the elf, the Guelph..." and I was like there is a *surprising* amount of cancon up in these weird-haired cats.
The way they reacted to Nelly dying reminds me of how the internet reacted to Tator Tot dying. 😢
Too soon 😭😭😭
the intro was just perfection. i can’t get ~*He skrinkles. He toesies. A creature. You understand?*~ out of my head
You reading the breed standards sounded like a my immortal character intro.
when i finally get a sphynx cat, i’m naming them nonesuch. it’s just a great name for the goofy lil guys
edit: i looked up the meaning of nonesuch and it’s absolutely perfect for a sphynx cat. the oxford dictionary definition: “a person or thing that is regarded as perfect or excellent.”
the lil goobers are definitely exemplary, so the name is fitting
I love hairless cats, what they lack in hair they make up for in ✨️charisma✨️
Yeah, i recently learned theres a breed of hairless dogs too. They look just as weird as the cats, so i assume theyre just as charismaric
it's so wild to me that this breed originated in Minnesota and Toronto, possibly the two worst places in North America to be hairless 😬
I love sphynxes! I didn't realize they were such a recent breed. Alas, as I almost always adopt rescues or shelter cats, I'm unlikely to have my very own bingus any time soon. But I guess you never know! Considering they are kind of a weird breed, maybe someone in my area will decide sphyxes are not for them and I'll get lucky, lol
nonesuch has neurodivergent energy ngl like the weird one in a normal litter? develops at a different rate to the "normal" cats? is shunned for not being enough like a cat? literally younger me, nonesuch is now my favourite cat 10/10 good creature
as a minnesotan, i am so proud of our contribution to this most noble of breeds
Cat breeds are mostly someone finding a funky little guy in a barn somewhere and deciding they need to make more of them
honestly the best part of this was hearing "they come from cats bred in toronto with cats from minnesota" and just thinking... yeah... that tracks. those seem like where the bingus would be invented.
Prune is a perfect name for a sphinx cat.
my friend has like two sphynx (i think) cats and one of them has gotten pregnant twice in like over a year with adorable baby binguses that I got the honor of holding when I visited them.
I know you're doing this video cause you have a sphynx, but i would love to hear you do this for other breeds of cat
I love that every time you bring Up Your Own cats its like "my cat doesn't do that, but I think they're just weird" It's just, so funny to me 😂
The first time I saw a hairless cat I was 6-7 and my first thought was "I need to touch it!" It ran away
Getting this notification and seeing the title for this video made me audibly say “oh FUCK yes” out loud
I completely LOST it at 1-Eye Stink and his shipwreck backstory. It's such perfect Victorian garbage.
Thank you for your wisdom but I already knew this- freddles the 9000 year old sphinx that lives in my floorboards whispered this arcane knowledge into my ears last night while I slept
he appreciates you, I think? Its hard to tell past the chanting
(Don't ask me why I typed this, idk. excellent video, thanks for the knowledge)
Epidermis and dermis are such good names for sphinxes oh my god
"a catdog from north carolina" yeah I've also been described like that
i'm watching this alongside my regular-haired baby black panther (an absolute apex predator... he's just eepy right now)
My bingus, Goblin, and I thank you for this informative deep dive into bingus history.
i want a new movement where we call all the weird wacky goblin cats 'mooncats'
I kinda love how you'll read an old account of someone's cat and they're gushing about every aspect of their cats the same way we do in the modern day.
Delightful video about delightful creechurs.
"IT WAS THE FRENCH!"
This was the video I didn't know I needed. I need more breed history breakdowns now. there's gotta be some niche accounts out there lol
"prodigy" historically could mean a wondrous or freakish occurence of creature so I think that's what was probably meant
I can't get over Dermis and Epidermis those are such good cat names I'm stealing that
who couldve known some murderous raw chickens could be so fascinating
Fun fact: my grandmother used to have a sphinx and a cornish rex. Where did she live? Albuquerque.
More hair in the summer = sunscreen maybe?
My pup's skin gets darker in summer some years, and we assume it's for the same reason.
This video makes me so happy, it was so interesting to learn about! I read an old book about cats (from the 1960’s or so) and it still cited the maternal impression theory as the case of why ragdoll cats are so docile (something about the founding mother of the breed having been in a car accident and gotten very frightened, so naturally her kittens would be very meek) as absolute fact.
A friend of mine is a taxidermist, and he’s found a lot of strange old stuff where people thought they’d found (or tried to trick others that they’d found) hybrid animals, one such being a wolf-bear hybrid that just looks like a really messed-up bear (with some illness/birth defect).
My two cats are 100% moggies, since they’re rescues so I have absolutely no idea of their parentage. They’re still perfect and incredible boys, just like every other cat out there.