Trashed $25.00 eBay Vintage Watch Needs a Lot of Work...
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Marshall tries his had at restoring a true junker! No crystal, no hands, no crown, no stem, bent case tube, and a non-runner to boot! He finds a cool Philip Watch Chaux de Fonds vintage watch on eBay for 25 bucks and has a go at reviving it.
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Did you go back and change the lume on the second hand? When you first assemble the lume is really white. But then the later shots it doesn't look as bright.
Good eye! I did in fact do that :)
I said the same thing to my screen “whatcha doin the second hand Lume doesn’t match” lol I’d have to change it it would drive me nuts seeing it all the time!😂🤣😂
I noticed it as well. Really looks better with the matching loom.
@@WristwatchRevival on your fat comment, did you know that automatic transmissions back in the early days (pre early 60's) used whale oil for the fluid? It actually had a good smell, well as long as you hadn't burned up the transmission. (I've been building race engines/transmissions since the late 70's. Mostly mopar, but I have done chevy and ford as well)
@@davidmiller9485 yeah. Whales almost went extinct for their industrial use later on and countries (I mean US) were like let’s stop hunting them, and yes Japan with 2000 years of history of just eating them, we mean YOU SHOULD STOP.
I know it’s irrelevant but just wanted to say lol
Me: "I should have gone to bed 6 hours ago" RUclips: "Hey, you never showed any interest in watches before, here is an hour-long video" Me: "I should have gone to bed 7 hours ago"
35 likes, no replies? Imma change that
Same here 😅
Bro it’s the same here currently 3:17
True story!
That just happened to me. Random 3AM wake up gave me a random 3AM recommendation, but loved it.
Philip Watches is actually an Italian brand, founded to produce commercial Swiss Made pocket in 1858. It was founded by Swiss-Italian François Philippe and Neapolitan Filippo Giardiello, in Naples, Italy. In 1923, the name Philippe Watches was registered in the city. Their original factory was in La-Chaux-de-Fonds, where they were one of the first if not the first globally to manufacture wristwatches for commercial use in the 1930s.
The name of the brand was originally Philippe Watch, after one of its founders François Philippe, and remained so for nearly a century. But after a 1947 monetary agreement with Patek Philippe it was changed ‘Philip Watch’, as customers were starting to get confused between the two brands which irritated Patek Philippe. The only time the brand got global attention was in the late 1950's when deep sea diving was becoming really popular as a recreational sport, so there was a need of watches that can go really deep without breaking under compression, Philip Watch came up with its own solution, their solution was the Caribbean 1000 dive watch. Their dive watch shook the diving world with its monoblock case and first watch certified with 1000m water resistance but other brands soon followed with their own deep dive watches.
Unfortunately no one cares for the brand outside of Italy where it is well known, therefore the watch grey market for these watches is non existent even though the brand came up with other high end brands like Patek Phillip, Rolex..etc. Doesn't help that the company was recently bought off and they make cheaper homage pieces.
Well that's kind of a pill isn't it? Still other videos show watches that have a much higher quality build. So you can tell that it isn't one of those. But it's still a coll 70 year old watch and a wonderful video. Found your comment enlightening. and a bit disappointing but hey that's life.
Google much?
Amazing comment! Thanks!
from what i've found there are still alot of Philip watches that do sell for a high price, looked it up on several sites (not just one), i went through prolly 70-80 sites and saw some that sell for like 9.500€ still. - so... dunno, prolly from people that really like the style of those watches, i guess? - as it is so old, it prolly does have some kind of collectors value or something.
@@haxkztasy
Is that the sold price or asking price? I'm looking at sales from chrono and ebay and they don't sell well and when they do, it's around the $100-$300 range but there is is a couple of models that have sold for 1000-1500 but it was a solid gold case model and a 60's vintage dive watch but I could not find a sale in the past year. People ask high prices in hopes they can up the market especially with rare watches but unfortunately the market is controlled by the grey market, they set the prices.
On the upside, the oil bath has probably helped protect the movement from corrosion as it was kicking around in a drawer with no crystal on the front.
My father worked as a watchsmith before I was born (I’m 63) before moving into engineering. He carried on repairing watches as a hobby and his workbench was in a corner of my bedroom. I spent many a happy evening watching him repair a watch when I should really have been sleeping! Watching you work brings back many happy memories.
On another note, watching you trimming that winding stem with a file better suited to trimming horses teeth did put my nerves on edge 😁.
My thoughts exactly, HUGE file, I used a whetstone and I would use it to sharpen my screwdrivers and tweezers as well
Ya, the file was too coarse. Would have used a much finer one. Oh well, nobody is perfect.
Horses teeth… or maybe a hoof.
I was just about to mention that same upside of dropping an entire watch in oil when I saw your comment. Having read it, I'm not so sure you actually should have been sleeping as it seems to me staying up instead created many happy memories for you. I don't know you or your dad, but I'd imagine he might have thought something like 'I told him to go to sleep, but as long as he is watching me he might actually learn something usefull so I'm gonna let him watch for a bit more and pretend I didn't notice.'
This is such a sweet comment, what a lovely story! Thanks for sharing x
My grandfather would do oil bath to protect mehanics. If he knows he cant repare it at that time. Or just to preserve it for parts. Its old school thinking.
As of this writing, I've successfully made my Vintage Omega pocket watch with Ref. 161 movement from the 50's run again. With just the use of confidence coming from the hours of watching Marshall's videos.And I thank you. 😊😊😊
Awesome!
Way to go, good job! 👍👍👍
i wonder if there's a beginner's watch cleaning system that isn't super expensive. i want to service my 100 year old elgin pocket watch
I'm so glad I found this channel! My grandfather was a watch maker. He worked for Elibash's Jewelers here in Pensacola FL. Apparently he was one of few authorized Rolex repairmen in the area. He had a shop in his backyard. I remember the smells of the chemicals and being fascinated by the tiny parts and equipment. I would walk into his shop and he would have his magnifying glasses on and he would always stop what he was doing and raise them up and entertain me for a few minutes before returning to his work. He was a GREAT man. He was a Navy SeaBea during WWII and fought at Guadalcanal. He was married for over 50 years and was a gentle and kind soul. This reminds me of him and I'll be glad to enjoy this channel in the future. He died when I was ten, and I'm sure if he had lived longer I could have learned this trade from him. Thank you for making these videos!
Nice story;
Cheers from Australia 🇦🇺
@@ozzyolof9209 Takes nothing to being a rolex repairman. Sorry to break it to you
My father was a US Navy SeaBee in the Pacific Theater as well. Imagine if they may have known each other back then. My dad was in Saipan and Okinawa, at least. Who knows where else he was, since they too island hopped all over as they built airfields.
Why would you make a comment like that and harm his memories?
@@johnmat4678 Because the world is full of these type of gamma male ankle biters. Thank you for your comment, but he did not harm my memory in any way. These small minded people are incapable of ruining my memories of my wonderful grandfather!
Randomly ended up here. Definitely not a waste of my time haha. Watches are fascinating. The amount of moving parts and how small they are is amazing and then you think back to how long they have been around as well as realizing many were made entirely by hand in some cases and that's mind numbing to think someone sat and cut all those gears and parts way back when
And made them so perfectly, as if modern machines made them…
"that's mind numbing"
Some would call it "meditative"...
They did use tools though, little watchmakers lathes of extreme accuracy with all sorts of attachments for cutting those wheels. Those have been around for centuries.
@@TheEvertw its incredible. like steampunk technology from a parallel dimension
Me too
What i find astonishing is that some watches that are this precise and beautifully made are more than 100 years old (even if wristwatches are way older than that, can't know for sure how functional they were). Can't imagine the stupid amount of work it was to properly design, engineer, machine and tune these with the tech back then.
This level of restoration is much more respectful of the object, love it. Too often I'm cringing when restorers remove original material unnecessarily.
Yes exactly!!! like removing original writing for Exempel from 1890’s and “doing it better”
I don't do watches, i do classic computers, and i often find myself being silently angry at the screen, like "this machine did not need a total recap" especially when they use junk or badly chosen parts, as is often the case, and "this is NMOS logic, of course it's going to have a little clock and input interference in the video output signal, it's not broken, it belongs like this". I do try my best to stay polite, as even unfortunate restorations are usually well intentioned. Except in some of THOSE corners of youtube, i'm sure you know what i mean, the deliberate clickbait/outrage bait, you must have encountered those, but those, it's best to just thumb down and not react otherwise at all.
@@SianaGearz i'm just sick of the hackaday 'ThEy BrOuGHT tHiS olD MaChinE BacK tO lIfE' articles where someone takes a beautiful old computer or portable, throws away the guts, and jams a raspberry pi or FPGA into it.
@@bignope5720 As a lover of old arcade and pinball machines, I feel the same way. All these arcade cabinets that get cannibalized and they throw a raspberry pi, a shitty old monitor, and a fucking MAME program in it just makes me so sad and angry.
I googled the name, I’m sure you did also but for everyone else, Philip Watch is still in production today and was founded in 1850. This was a beautiful save! I love that you leave these watches in the original look with patina intact. Really enjoyable to watch your videos!
It’s an Italian brand founded in 1858 and based in Naples, Italy. So there’s some history handed down.
Whoever dunked it in oil probably did the watch a favour in that no rust or other damage was able to proliferate. Great job Marshall.
@paul mat Did he say whoever dunked it in oil fixed the watch? No, no he didn't.
@paul mat Did Mark Irvin talked with you? No he didn't.
I suppose there is that. It couldn't rust and it couldn't run so whatever the actual problem was likely didn't get worse at least.
@paul mat there is if it has an oil-dispenser complication. I hear those need to be topped up
@paul mat My watch was fixed entirely with oil 🤣
You really are the Bob Ross of watch repair!!Love it!
what a compliment!
I love old oily movements. You can get them cheap and the parts never rust. It's almost always easy to clean them and get them running. Great work!
Right!?
Ok.. it’s oily, but that thing was pristine
Seems like a no brainer to me too. Came apart with little effort save the sticky screws. No worry of rust. Win win. I would have expected it to run after the thorough cleaning & proper lube.
And then you can just dunk the movement in degreaser!
@@ReiMonCoH - Exactly. I'd rather deal with old oil than a rusted SOLID keyless works or something else.
@@scdevon I’m dealing with the latter right now, the oil is definitely preferable.
There is something very soothing and satisfying about your videos. I can sit and watch and listen to your soothing voice as you work on these beautiful time pieces in much the same way that I can sit and watch Anthony Bourdain. Keep up the great work.
Stumbled across this channel, and as an engineer, found it so captivating. The size of the screws, just wow. Great stuff.
I came here to make the same comment. I'm an engineer, and I'm fascinated by the construction of this watch. HOW are such tiny screws made?? How does someone cut threads into those little screws? And those microscopic teeth on the gears.. How in hell did people do that before the advent of laser cutting and other precision machining? It's mind boggling! Each tooth on each gear is perfectly cut, and that would require a cutting tool even smaller than the teeth on the gears. HOW?!?!
@@jtocwru Yes, it is amazing. I don't know how it's done, but I have an interesting story. I think it was about 1970?, and the U.S. was so proud of itself because it made a piece of wire that was so many times thinner than a human hair that we sent it to China to show them how advanced our technology was. They drilled a hole through it and sent it back! 😳
@@vasilii6417How much swampland do you own in Florida??
Ladies watches of the 1950-60 had screws that looked like fleas being picked up by my father. A GI Bill trained watch-repairman.
@@jtocwru Maybe this gives you an idea ruclips.net/video/iYw8GeNVc-4/видео.html
I've never watched or taken any interest in watch-making or maintenance but I sat through and watched the entire hour - fascinating and very well presented! Thank you
Same here … learned a lot about this industry and the workmanship required.
Same, I only knew they used ruby bearings and were the first precision "machined" parts in history, there are some very interesting videos on the "Dawn of Precision" really unlocking the industrial revolution and life as we know it etc, massive rabbit hole!
Anyway, yea, really interesting to see a watch taken apart and all the workings
Holy moly... That was an hour?
read this, and thought to myself, "self, theres no way this was an hour long..."
and then i checked the time.
yep. apparently it was an hour.
I've been told that small watch parts, like jewels and springs, are members of the Swiss air force since they fly so well.
Ping! Woosh! The sound a mainspring escaping makes. Those little springs just go "see ya!".
I am one of those "I don't even like watches" who ended up here. But I do really love craftsmanship, regardless of what form it takes. Cars, architecture, anything built by hand fascinates me. And wristwatches seem to be the best example of this, with such tiny, delicate parts.
Don't know what the hell I'm looking at while it's being taken apart, but it looks like it had a lot of care in making it.
I am not interested in watches or cars but I am most definitely interested in passionate people working on complicated machinery. And so I end up watching channels about watches and cars.
:)
Nice work and nice video. I can't resist offering a tip. When cutting threaded rod, if you have a nut, preferably a long coupling nut, screw the nut onto the rod at some distance. Now make your cut. After cutting, you can unscrew your nut off the rod and by doing so, it will true up any damaged threads and will also bend any burrs straight and they can easily be filed or honed off. Also, if you suspect a spring may take flight while you work, just slip the piece into a clear plastic bag and cut some holes in the bag to insert your tools, this way if a spring decides to blast off, it will be contained in the bag. You probably know all this already, but I couldn't resist. Cheers.
Can confirm this tip works! I've use the same method for 20+ years on larger rod stock doing metal fab. I always run a nut up above my cut. When I run the nut off it de-burs my cut and cuts my new threads. Probably not applicable here, but a hardened nut, or harder than your thread stock works like magic to cut the new threads.
That’s fantastic advice for the flying away tiny springs. I’d hate to lose one of those to the carpet monster.
Also invest in some jewellers files, different industry but common, cheap and the right "scale" for the work you're doing
My grandfather was a watch maker/repair fellow back in the 70's, and I used to go to his shop in Montreal and just be in awe. I loved being there when the hour passed and all the clocks would go off and chime. It was so surreal for a kid to experience that. I remember when Timex became a big name, and people would bring in a timex to get repaired, and my grandfather (who was from Denmark, and had very broken english) would just look a them, take the back off, replace the battery and hand it back. After he would gripe, with a bit of a sense of humour , about how timex was not really a real watch...
I was very inspired by him.
Did you end up following your granddad footsteps to become a watchmaker also? 😉😁
@@sibalogh Thank you for the question. I didn't. I considered it, but at the time while growing up it looked like digital watches were replacing repairable ones and the field was going to end.
I do have much of his equipment, and could take it up as a hobby, and might just do so.
I do special fx for TV and movies instead. Quite a different field.
Thank you for the question! I miss my grandad and would like to honour him.
Hi from Melbourne Victoria Australia 🇦🇺🤓,
I remember my first watch my teacher (a master horologist) Annie Ridgway,
I over oiled the watch, in my first 6 month's, in my apprenticeship, she made me wash every part and screw , screwdriver all by hand,.
I had learnt my lesson in how to oil and grease a watch, I'm so happy to watch this industry still going, even being out because of health, retirement I'm still giving advice to newbies learning watchmaking, it's still thrilling to see young men and women learning from me.
Thankyou for every vid you put out,🌏🤓🤓🤓🌏
I'm not a watchmaker I'm going to end up being a machinist, but when I saw that little tiny spring skyrocket out, my heart dropped.
I'm sure other watchers have noted this, but the over-oiling is likely what protected the unprotected movement from further corrosion. If someone wants to ignore a watch and not service it, they should just dunk it in oil until someone buys it on eBay years later for $25 so it's still protected for them to beautifully restore. Well done.
that's zakkerly wot i thought
Bang on the money..... didn't see your post, but I made the same point ....Were it mine, I would dunk it in oil, rather than let it corrode away, irrepairably in a damp dusty or similar environment Well said Sir
That’s quite literally what happens to guns when they go into storage in armories, they cover them in cosmoline or similar waxy grease. It’s hell to clean however it does it’s job very well, and honesty it can be used with just about anything although I wouldn’t recommend it for watches but it’s metal and wood safe, good way to store furniture for long term in a questionable climate controlled environment
@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 Yep, it's wonderful on metal parts. A living nightmare on wood.
@@TenebrusI07 still cleaning it out of the wood grain on my rifle I purchased that was stored in cosmoline, had it almost 6 years now and it’s still tacky to the touch if I let it sit for too long without handling it
There’s something very therapeutic about this process to me.I wish I still had this beautiful Swiss chronograph my godfather gave me on graduation in 1974. I don’t remember the brand, not one of the big names, but it was gorgeous, ran precisely, and I was so proud of it. When it stopped running many years later no one could fix it, and the last guy returned it to me in a bag… I was heartbroken…
RUclips has been recommending your channel for 2 months... I blame them for making me take the bait, I blame myself for my lack of sleep, due to your videos, but I 100% blame you for making them so dang interesting!! The channel I never knew I needed!
Did some digging on this watch because I loved the design and noticed the markers were quite a different shape and style as the typical phillip brands were in that era. The only other watch (documented online) that is almost identical to this one(but better condition)been bought and sold twice already. You might have quite a rare piece on your hands for just 25$!
Amazing how you can remember where all those bits and pieces go back, and yiu have such a steady hand. Very impressed with the outcome of that watch. You truly have a talent for repairs & restoration. Thanks for sharing as its very interesting to watch your thought process to fix badly treated watches.
He's mentioned it in other video's comments before but: the video itself actually helps alot for the re-assembly process, it's part of why he "shows" the parts to the cameras as he's disassembling it so he can catalogue where they are from.
Probably also works as an amazing refrence for anyone working on the same movements
The parts and wheels are one thing... it's remembering which screws go where that would intimidate me. But like anything else, with enough practice, what looks difficult becomes second nature.
I absolutely LOVE when you take something unloved and carelessly owned and basically left for dead and then you repair it to its pristine glory. Extremely therapeutic
How someone actually invented the inner workings of something like that is just mind boggling. A simple watch on the outside. But so complex on the inside.
Absolutely, the only way I can think of, is that it's simply generations of clock movements getting smaller and smaller. because wrist watches are just smaller pocket watches, and pocket watches are just smaller mechanical clocks, and going further back, the clocks get bigger and bigger until they're the huge clock towers like the Westminster's clock tower.
All those gear movements just replicating the same minute and hour hand movements from huge, to very small.
@@DragonHeart53 That's exactly it. An "innovation" or "invention" is rarely, if ever, a novel new idea that came out of a single person's mind, it's almost always the result of combining the accumulated historical knowledge pertaining to that idea. Everything from watch movement design to musical composition is a testament to all that thinking and tinkering came before it. The genius of someone like Einstein isn't in creating relativity out of thin air, but in combining all that humanity knew about physics up to that time and realizing that it added up to relativity. That's how progress happens, and it's fascinating.
@@hellraserfleshlight DEEP AND PROFOUND
COMMENT.
no one invented it in the complexity shown. it started as grandfather clock and just got smaller from there.
@@DragonHeart53 I have a watch that hung on a chain necklace my aunt gave me in the mid 50's. Perhaps an inch across. It no longer works, should I dunk it?
The number of moving parts in there is crazy, the engineering involved in a wrist worn time piece really is pretty amazing.
The craziest part is this is actually a very simple movement for its time
There's something about taking something apart and putting it back together that is very relaxing to watch. Great videos!
@paul mat I did that twice. Once a 1963 buick le sabre and once a 1963 buick wildcat. Now I just do trumpets and cornets. Much smaller.
Nearly 2 hours of watching crap on FB and YT and this vid is where I ended up to make myself feel better. Thank you.
The craftsmanship on such a tiny device is astounding! Thank you for being so patient and descriptive for the uninitiated viewers like me.
I'm not a watch repair person but I've been a mechanic all my life and I'm fascinated by all things mechanical. I don't think I'll ever get to do watch repair but it's fun to watch (no pun intended) other people doing a restoration like this. It's interesting to see the thinking behind the different steps needed to repair all the tweaked bits.
Wonderful, Fantastic, & I subscribed. I am almost 72 years old. When I was 13 or 14 years old, I was given a Bulova wind up alarm wrist watch that woukd not run. I took apart, but could not put it back together again. I numbered the parts in the order they were removed & tried to make drawings to put them all back properly. I failed miserably, I used to watch the jewekers repair watches. They had watch repair schools back then. "Timex" ended their careers. I thought the Swiss were the only people who kept watch building & repair careers alive. Your video was a wonderful discovery. You are truly a master of the trade!
I thought I was really good at taking machines apart, and remembering the order of assembly, then this showed up. Mind blown. The precision, and the size of parts is impressive.
I do a lot of work on my 3D printers - I keep spare bolts and nuts so that when they drop - I don't look for them just use a replacement. The parts in a watch are so tiny, if one of the springs jumped never finding it again
If I had enough money to where i could basically hire anyone to do this job, I would hire someone like you to repair my watches. Being picky, experimenting with your craft, admitting your mistakes, and having a genuine interest in your field are all amazing qualities in any craftsman. Anyone would be proud to hire you. Job well done!
In this day and age of everything being digital, I think alot of people forget the craftsmanship and work that went into making an old style mechanical watch mechanism, especially on higher end models.
My Dad was a watchmaker and I loved watching(no pun intended) him work on people’s prized watches. He definitely was gifted in that expertise. I accidentally found this video and am loving it!! Thank you for bringing back precious memories!!
Ah, that's awesome, glad you found the channel!
It's 3:48AM, 53 minutes ago I thought I'd watch this somewhat long video about a person restoring a watch in hopes that I'll fall asleep from boredom. Now I'm a fan and a new subscriber to something I never thought I'd catch an interest to. Thank you for this video, I love the commentary and I love how you describe a lot of what's going on, keeps me very interested. Merry early Christmas 🎄
Ditto :)
doing the same at nearly exactly the same time hahaha (3:05am)
Yea watching at 2:57am lol
@@shadowknight7584 watching at 3:46
Found this video with the same thought in mind a week ago, now I'm watching the channel regularly and I've ordered a inexpensive skeletal Mechanical watch to act as the first of a small collection XD
I'm 41 year old man never knew what I wanted to do for a hobby. But I watch what you do, and I'm have always been fascinated with time. I think I'm going to give fixing watches a go.
I've never seen the inner workings of a watch before. The gears are so beautiful. I love seeing some of the age and wear on antique things.
Wait till see the ones with the glass on the back or skeleton ones. You see ALL the guts inside.
I love how there are SO many specialised tools for this hobby/trade.
“It’s a pressed in fitting, which means it can be pressed out, and I’ve got this little tool that is specifically made to take out and put in these case tubes.”
OF *COURSE* YOU DO! 😂
A little bit of oil seems so daunting, when .25 cents of naphtha would have done the chore, but then that's not protocol.
03:56 he's actually reading my mind!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Absolute truth: I don't really care for watches, and haven't even worn one for at least this century 🤣 but I am a mechanical engineer.
Watching (yep, pun intended) a professional working with such obvious enthusiasm, as well as expertly honed skills, on something thát precise and accurate, that's priceless.
It's therapeutic.
As an avid watch collector i'm so jealous of your amazing watchmaking skill. Keep up the awesome work and videos, BTW Philip was a great brand and is still being built today under the Sector Watch family!
I'm new here. I agree with what you said, "a light touch" I can't stand when people repaint old things to make look new. I love that old look. Gives it personality, character. Fixing and cleaning is the only way to go. I always prefer the original.
I loved how as soon as you dropped the movement spring back in place, the watch instantly sprang back to life. Very cool. I think your decision to change out the lume color of the hands was very much needed. That aqua color would've looked hideous. Bringing them to an off-white color with the addition of coffee was pretty fascinating, and honestly gave the hands the perfect color to keep that vintage look, in my opinion. I'm not sure if the wrist straps you used were the original or not, but they brought the whole watch together and really finished off the look nicely.
Cool video all around. Watching you pull all the wheels and pins and springs out, I'm like "how is he ever going to remember where all of those tiny pieces go?", but you're a master of your craft and, and it is always fascinating to watch. Thanks for sharing.
If you ever feel like letting go of that watch sometime, please let me know I would love to buy it off you.
There's a great youtube channel fron "The History Guy" who always starts with " This is history that deserves to be remembered".
Well, the Watches I see in this channel definetly meet the same criterion of "this is a watch that deserves to be running again, and to be enjoyed".
Thank you so much for bringing them back to life so that I can observe history, first hand.
When ever you redo a lume on the hands we need a lume shot in the dark to see it. Great job glad to see another brought back.
I remember an uncle of mine who believed that "If a little is good, then a lot must be better." It's how he fixed his tractors, pickups etc so had he been a watch repairman he would have certainly done the oil bath to this one. LOL
I mean, it isn't exactly wrong if you are working with massive machinery. But if the gears are the size of a pin, well that seems to be quite the different story.
I'm no horologist, but it's hard not to be interested in watching this type of repair video. You do a good job of explaining what's going on.
No idea i needed to watch a very clear and well-spoken guy take a watch apart today, or yesterday or again tomorrow.....but I am here and I am a fan....and now a sub!!....
Insane to me that someone invented this and put it together and it just, works, the way it does, I can't begin to imagine how smart someone has to be to think of and plan out a design like this.
It’s all about iteration after iteration. Nobody truly invited any machine. They simply created an iteration or a concept. A single human no matter how smart or clever could invent something so complicated without first standing on the shoulders of the giants that came before them.
(We are a hive mind, and I absolutely agree it’s incredible. Language is THE greatest invention followed closely by literacy).
@@john-paulsilke893 there are/were many inventors who are smart enough to create something complex for the first time.
@@jadesluv name one. We stand on the shoulders of giants.
The really big achievement is making the tools and machines that make all the small parts.
Excellent video! Well done on overhauling the watch.
I work on watches too and I noticed that the yoke spring fitting at time interval 28:33 is not correct. Check this against the removal of the yoke spring at time 09:01. You may have noticed this if the setting of the watch did not work properly.
Otherwise, brilliant!
Regards from the UK!!
Yeah, i noticed this too. And as an slightly autistic nerd, it drives me crazy, and i need to know if he fixed this already!
I'm glad I'm not the only one that noticed!
I was today days old when I learned that one of my favorite Magic content creators also creates awesome restoration videos! This came up on my suggestions (probably because I've been watching Baumgartner Restoration) and I immediately recognized Marshall's voice!
Same! So strange, I was like "I know that voice" and then he said his name was Marshall and bam.
Ha that's awesome! The crossover of people into this stuff and into MtG isn't huge but everyone in there are *definitely* my kind of person :)
@@WristwatchRevival I saw the MtG playmat(?) Off to the corner but I never would have guessed you were a MtG content creator! Thats 👌
I did a double take thinking I clicked a magic video in the background when I heard his voice, surprised and delighted me :D
I swear I had this same realisation probably around the same day you did haha.
I saw the playmat and I just figured another MTG fan, there's lot of us.
I saw his face, and I realised he was one of the most famous MTG players in the world 😂
4:00 I just like watching passionate people working on there passions. It's just nice to see people doing the things they love.
I was never into watches until my dad gave me my great grandfathers Timex, he had this watch since the early 70's he got it from NCR when he retired. I found someone to fix it and now i wear it every day now I'm here watching you lol.
My husband had a self winding watch and after he passed I gave it to his daughter. worked well and hope it continues. He told me he got it during his time in the Navy but not sure where. i love watching your videos and how you explain and how you use the tools.
I believe your the perfect person to do these repairs. Calm, clear explanations, and how you remember where it all goes back together is beyond me. Well done Sir.
I'm a gunsmith & I love watches. My heart nearly stopped when that spring jumped out of its place. A spring that small would be nearly impossible to find on a hardwood floor. On carpet it's gone for good.
PTSD flashbacks to tiny action springs flying into the abyss and taking critical components with them. I have a clear plastic box with two holes for my hands... be damned if I lose another spring like that again.
Actually, that's not so hard to deal with. I occasionally work on cameras and lenses. Before I get to work, I *thoroughly* vacuum all around my work area for a distance that a small part (springs especially) could conceivably fly. I empty the dust chamber of the vacuum cleaner completely. Then if I do lose something, I just go back over the area with the vacuum cleaner and it's usually very easy to find the missing bit by dumping everything onto a white paper towel. The only thing is to make sure the part you misplace *isn't* one that would be irreparably damaged by going through your vacuum cleaner.
Last year when this video had just come out and i was a first time watcher (heh lil pun there) i thought to myself what Marshall said, "Why am i watching this video I dont even like watches" but a year later and now i understand why he answered that question as simply as "because watches are a lot cooler than we remember them being". So with that Id like to say, Thank you Marshall for showing me such a cool thing that was sitting right under my nose. You truly are the Bob Ross of Watch Making.
But boy what a video to start with huh this had to be the worst one he's done on video. Poor watch... but hey trust the process Marshall does great work and always gets them back in working order.
Philip Watch was (and still is) an Italian brand.
It's from Southern Italy.
They used to make affordable watches.
One of the most famous was the Caribbean 1000.
Besides all the impressive work done on the watch, You do a great job getting good camera angle that clearly show the work you are doing. I also appreciate your voice over that matches the work being done on the screen and explains the technique as if you were doing the voiceover as you recorded/repaired the watch, but much more linear. Great overall video (Camera, voice, editing) I really enjoy your videos.
I think he's actually talking as he does it.
Great craftsmanship. I also appreciate that you left the face “as is”. Vintage is vintage for a reason!
@4:00 you mentioned not being a watch geek but still watching your channel. I like the videos strictly from an engineering aspect. I'm an engineer myself and I love seeing how these vintage watches work, how you fix them, and the differences and similarities between different types and brands of watches. However, I'm not a watch geek, so you are right. Non-watch geeks like watching too.
Nice job, man! I'm entirely with you on not overdoing the restoration. I'm not a watch guy, but I refurbish old fishing reels. Some guys like to do a complete re-paint, so they look like new, but I like to see the patina and the "history" of the piece, be it a watch, a fishing reel or anything else with a bit of age...like myself! =D
I still have my vintage Garcia Mitchell 300 Spinning Reel, made In France, that I bought in 1964 using paper route money. It is robust and simplicity itself, so easy to remove a side to clean and re-lube. I saw one on ebay for $500 and I thought wow! until I saw another for $33, and a third for $17. It's old, usable, but not especially valuable. For many years I kept the original neat padded box, paperwork, and spare high-capacity spool, but they got away from me. I quit fishing years ago partly because of polluted waters, and partly because I couldn't outsmart a fish, any fish.
I have always admired how watchmakers can simply REMEMBER how all the parts go back together.
I think after awhile you remember basics of all watches and gets easier the more you do
Yeah if I ever even attempted to take a watch apart it’s never going back together ahaha
although, in another video he mentioned that it's a good idea to film yourself taking the watch apart, as a reference if you forget a step or something. For experts like him that's probably not so relevant, but it's certainly a good idea for beginners.
I take lots of photos, and segerate my parts as I dissasemble. That helps, he appears to be a lot more experianced than me.
He's also recording the disassembly. A wise move.
Marshall! The growth of this channel is amazing. I come as a Limited Resources listener. I play these in the background while jamming Magic. Thanks for all your work. Great content as usual.
Hey thanks! I really appreciate it :)
I have to tell after watching the video before this one. Which in my case was Elgin that you had to replace the face & the winding stem but not the crown. Maybe one or two other things which have slipped my mind now. I have joined your Patreon. Now I see this “Trashed $25.00 EBay….” And I see tools you have that I’ve not seen before. In the probably more than 50 videos I’ve watched.
Now I don’t want to pat myself on the back at all but I’m really glad I joined your Patreon just before this video. Amazing work with just the right tool. Reminds me of working on cars with my dad. Keep it up Marshall. I find your work pretty awesome. 👏
Seeing someone work something they really care about is amazing
Coffee! Yes! I taught high school shop years ago. My professor in college taught us about old methods of coloring stain. Sometimes the old guys used coffee, ashes, manure, or anything else they could find to produce the correct color. Of course you had to make sure that you didn’t mix water-based color with oil-based stain. Those old-timers used whatever they needed to produce the needed color. You’re absolutely correct in doing so! That’s why it is sometimes hard to buy the correct color of stain for that mantle clock case. Manure is particularly good at producing beautiful colors in stain.
Thank you for your fantastic videos! They inform and inspire me!
😯 Manure did you say...?
I love how you have such precise tools and then you pull out the file that looks like it'd be more at home in a mechanics shop !!! I'm definitely the file guy !
Yeah, when I saw that file he had me waiting for the sawzall.
I watch all your videos, often multiple times each, and I find myself drawn to this hobby more and more. My problem is advanced age, and I don't know how much longer I'll be on this planet and still be in control of my faculties. If I live long enough, I will definitely get involved and I, have you to thank for it. I gota say I don't much care for some of the theatrics, but I have great respect for your efforts. I can't thank you enough.
Having never used a wristwatch in my life, even as a London Underground guard I had a keyring watch, I find your videos mesmerising. Keep up the good work. Ps I do in fact use watch parts, just in penturning. The parts are used to produce a steampunk look, so bent or otherwise unusable parts get a second life.
I'm over here rocking my 1960's Timex watch that I bought for $8 on ebay and revived from the dead by dunking it in oil.
Jk, I somewhat precisely applied a thin oil that I found in my garage to every wear surface. The watch went from barely running, loosing literally hours a day when I could keep it running, and randomly stoping (as often as about once every 30 seconds when I wore it and depending on the angle it was sitting at) to a solid watch that never stutters, losses less than 30 seconds a day, and has the longest power reserve out of all of my watches.
I didn't realize I spent 1 hour in this, I really enjoyed every second, you really put the time to do everything very clean and smooth in this video. LOVED IT.
Been a model hobbyist for about 40 years is why I watch, while you wash the watch. Bought a 600x stereo microscope a few years back, which drove another hobby I got into. Micro repair. Now I search for the GOOD tools. like the milkshake blender/cleaner device. Been cleaning micro parts in a clamshell ball shaped tea infuser and cleaning solutions.
Concerning dials:
the dial is the watch's personality. You can change the personality if you want to, but I like seeing the face it showed the world, unless it's damaged enough to be replaced.
Watches are like cars: you can redo them a hundred times but they are only original once.
Patina on dials is nice.
I'm with you 😄
Like most antiques/vintage items of any sort, refinishing a dial usually kills the value of the watch too. By potentially several thousands at the higher end of the market. The only time you should ever be redoing a dial is when it's literally illegible.
I agree. I have always hated going to a car show only to see modified classics (the term 'restomod') instead of what I expect, which is to see how that 1949 coupe looked like..in 1949. I don't want to see digital guages, air conditioning and a CD player!
14:25 I immediately noticed that magic playmat. Absolutely love magic and I've fallen down the watch repair rabbit hole majorly. Hoping to start out sometime next year when income is more stable! Funny how those two things overlapped for us
Check out Limited Resources. Marshall is a very well known figure in the MTG space! (That’s his podcast)
Works under magnification for the entire rebuild, then brings out the largest file he can find to de-dur..... Love it.
I am addicted to your channel !
I have been watching everything for the last two months and brought up some great memories from my grandpa who was a watchmaker. I remember playing on the floor of his shop while he was working in some customers watches.
I am going to subscribe from my TV google account so I can see these videos in all their glory in large TV.
There might be a fight for the remote.
Thanks for sharing!!!
...Philip watch is actually an italian brand, the company was based in Naples (or the owner was from), if I remember correctly...as with many brands, having a swiss movement or final assembly of some sort in Switzerland was sufficient for having a swiss made on the dial...these watches were medium-low cost ones...nice beaters
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Wonderful seeing these come back to life, in the hands of someone who knows how to do it so well. The dial has character and should not be fully restored.
It's got stories to tell, so long as the mechanics work all the rest is history and character
This was my first time watching an assembly of a watch! I always knew they were incredibly complex, but this really gave me an appreciation for the artistry and craftsmanship that goes into such a device. Thanks and great work restoring this beauty!
Nice. Your allowance of wear and tear and the inconsistency of history show the touch of a true artist/craftsman. Thank you for allowing an object of beauty to start a new chapter.
This was a really neat video. I suppose it's a good thing that dunking it in oil was the only thing the would be watchmaker tried. The coffee added to the lume makes it look a bit like bone porcelain. It looks great with the brass hands. You wouldn't even know it was lume.
19:10 Special gadget for handling wound spring. Wish I had a (much larger) similar thing to assemble the pullcord starter recoil spring of a lawnmower without it flying all over.
Having rebuilt the recoil on my mower as many times as I've replaced the blade (read, several) I feel this pain
Yet another informative and very well-made video, Marshall! Thank you! I couldn't help, but think about whether it might have been better to spray the movement with brake cleaner once you "struck oil." That could have been done off bench and air dried a bit and would have prevented messing up your work surfaces, tools and cleaning machine. Just a thought. Love your vids! They are some of the best informative entertainment available!
Today I saw the parts of a radiotherapy collimator. (not a drop of oil visible). The machinery was fantastic, from the leaf made of fine milled tungsten to the digital electric motor with its tiny gearbox and controller, one of hundreds in the collimator head. Suddenly I realized that this miraculous machine, that may well save my life, had its development in the history of watches and their miraculous engineering. I wondered why I watch this blog, well not any more. Thanks for this blogg mate, maybe I should have been a watch maker, but in a way I was, a watch carer...an anesthesiologist who watched while you slept, lest your time was not kept.
Great video, as usual. A sheet of fine sandpaper or a sharpening stone does a better job for adjusting the winding stem than that way too rough file. Beware of metal particles flying around when the movement is nearby and exposed. The dial reads "Chaux-de-Fonds", which is a city in Switzerland well known for its watch industry.
At 44:04 I cringed. I envisioned microscopic metallic shards flying in slow motion into the exposed movement.
Later, when enlarging the sweep hand, I felt there might be "cutting debris" clinging near the enlarged hole, eager to drop through the dial face into the movement. I was mesmerized watching (viewing) this exceptional vid. And no profanity. A real change on RUclips. Thank-you.
Oh man, I know absolutely nothing about mechanical watches, but I've done enough gunsmithing work to have cringed massively when that tiny spring went for a flight!
And honestly, with no information at all on how watches "should" be done, I really do agree with you on the face. Leaving the character in it with the story is preferable to my eye. The STORY is almost gone if you completely replaced all the marks.
Nice job. But you were wrong when installing the spring. Compare how the spring is at 9:00 and how you set it to 28:20 will probably work, but harder than it should. And I think the second hand is too light.
Good catch! He is a little like a bull in a china shop with this movement
I noticed that also, and was about to say what you said, i was just waiting for the end of the video in case he noticed.
Marshall I have watched your videos many times learned so much from your knowledge. You mentioned that this watch with the dunking in oil might be too much for you. No watch is too much for you. Your skills are remarkable.
Your videos are absolutely amazing! I've been watching them for a while now, and at first I had no interest in watches, but as I watched I became fascinated with them, and I just ordered two broken pocket watch movements to start to learn how to do this myself!
This is exactly the sort of stuff I´m aiming to achive in the future :-) Just have to buy a few more tools and start practising on a few pocket watches, then servicing some simpler and well known movements and then, maybe get to this point ... Thank you for yet another inspiring video!
So I've bought a few tools because I got into the frenzy between watching Wristwatch Revival, Nekkid Watchmaker, and Red Dead Restoration.
Well it turns out, it's a LOT harder than it looks on video, partly because they cut out the 10 times they fail to set the shock jewel setting or put that spring in, and partly because they have experience.
But not all is that grim, after 2-3 watches you'll develop those fine motor skills needed to lift the screws and other tiny things without dropping them.
I remember my first 3-4 watches, I spent more time under my bench looking for tiny parts than working on the watch itself. Also, those first couple of watches ended up in ziplock bags labeled as "parts", because I always either broke or lost something vital.
Fortunately, in the part of the Europe I live in, there's a pretty much limitless supply of old USSR and Swiss watches so the learning movements are never expensive, and often times free.
Even now I'll butcher a watch and never be able to put it together, I'd say there's about 70% chance it works and 30% it doesn't, but it's been getting better slowly. Doesn't help that I'm impatient and that I like to do everything in one sitting, but I've been slowly learning that it's easier to work in smaller intervals with breaks in-between, keeps you more motivated and less likely to make mistakes.
Absolutely gorgeous job, is incredibly the restauration you did, really love to see all the process involved and the result is just amazing. Greetings from Chile!! 🇨🇱
Not a watch fan but your videos randomly popped up in my suggested feed as a result of me watching restoration videos.
And your vids are that but focused on watches and even tho I will never try fixing them, it’s interesting to see the mechanisms come apart and be fixed.
The mechanical end of my brain is satiated watching the inner workings I don’t have the tools to tinker with.
Wow. Fully enjoyed this. I had no appreciation of what was involved in a mechanical watch. The miniature engineering was amazing. Makes me want to wear one again.
New here, and I don't know a damn thing about watches, but I'm a certified Porsche mechanic and have a fascination with the mechanics of all kinds of inventions. Also I'm a usmc vet of 8 combat deployments with ptsd, and this channel has helped me chill and focus, so thank you for the pretty cool entertainment!
This method sounds a lot like cosmoline usage. Less to do with repairing the watch and more to do with corrosion resistance so you can sell or shelve it for later.
Yassss.
cosmoline cleanup > rusting/corrosin, surface pitting
There’s actually a lot of overlapping instruments in watchmaking and dentistry. The loupe magnification and ultrasonic cleaners. Those reamers and broaches are near identical to what dentists use for endodontics (root canals). Very interesting.
I’ll try to remember that next time I’m getting a root canal drilled, lol!