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  • @nicklovescars
    @nicklovescars 6 месяцев назад +10

    Hobbyist - At the end of the day I think you are approaching this the wrong way and you will spend a lot more money and effort than is necessary. Also you fixed costs will go up considerably as 3500 cfm fans cost alot more to run usually than 1500 cfm fans (usually). You need a hot and a cold aisle and you need to direct your air. If you make it so that it is nearly impossible for your asic's exhaust to leave the hot aisle you won't need to worry about your cold aisle's temperature as much. I think you could fix this whole situation with 50-60 dollars of drywall and 40-50 dollars of 2x4 to brace the drywall. I would suggest you look at other mining operations especially miners at scale, they have their hot and cold aisles physically separated. Good Luck!

    • @pdath
      @pdath 6 месяцев назад +3

      This. You need to create dedicated hot and cold isles.

    • @s33butler
      @s33butler 6 месяцев назад +2

      This 100%, anyone that has done data center design knows they need to control air flow and minimize mixing of the hot and cold air. An old but simple trick is to hang clear vinyl slats down the center of the shed over the middle of the rack (like you see when walking into restaurant food coolers)... fill the gaps on your rack/shelf with cardboard. This forces cold air to stay on the intake side and it must go through ASIC intake... hot air stays on the output side and cannot pass the vinyl or cardboard and must go out the fan vents. Both are dirt cheap and will create static hot /cold isles with no mixing.

    • @s33butler
      @s33butler 6 месяцев назад

      I don't know if this will let me post a pic... but you can Google data center vinyl containment curtains... I also recommend one hanging at the door to keep the air from destabilize when you leave the door open.... Pic of the concept www.steelguardsafety.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/DC-4-Data-Center-Curtain.v1-e1632253822915-430x430.jpg

    • @s33butler
      @s33butler 6 месяцев назад +3

      Also, hot air rises. All your ASICs should be as low to the ground as possible. If you fill up... put the hottest on the bottom and work your way up with ones that don't run as hot. You should still do the peak fans, just on the hot side of the vinyl curtains, maybe hange them 55/45 off center.

    • @MillsTactical
      @MillsTactical 6 месяцев назад

      This.
      The larger and additional gable fans will use more power and cut into profits. I know you have dirt cheap power, but in the long term you may not. Maximize your profits.
      Open up the gable vent, put in a ceiling, create a cold/hot aisle, and move the ASICs lower on the rack. Test for a couple of days and then look at increasing intake if there is still an issue.

  • @MassBoost
    @MassBoost 6 месяцев назад +5

    I mentioned this before when you were building this, that you need to add a ceiling to not only help direct air flow, but to make the fans more efficient as it lowers your shed volume.

  • @ItsPJBia
    @ItsPJBia 6 месяцев назад +6

    I would add the peak exhaust fans first before cutting the entire intake wall down just to see what benefits those can provide your current setup.

  • @pdath
    @pdath 6 месяцев назад +2

    I think you are going the wrong way on this. You need to copy Seb Heslo and create a hot and cold isle by putting in a foam wall from floor to ceiling in the middle, and then cut in holes for your shelves and miners.
    You also need to lower the volume of air by using a false ceiling.
    Both of these options have zero additional running cost.
    This is the most cost-effective way of preventing hot air from re-circulating into the cold intake. I think you will loose the battle trying to simply "power" your way out of the situation.

  • @andrewmartino6144
    @andrewmartino6144 6 месяцев назад +1

    From the beginning.... You should have put all the Asics as close as you could to each other squared, meaning stacked and next to each other. Along the back wall would have made the most sense to give you room in the front part for computers and what not.
    Then Fruits and Associates shrouds for every miner along with the AC infinity inline fans. Every single miner would have the AC infinity 8" ducting to and from the asics.
    Each duct would come straight through the intake wall for incoming air from outside and every exhaust ducting would go outside through the exhaust wall. The shed would never get warm insulating the outside of the miners.
    The air from outside (with filter) would cool the asics 100% and the exiting air would exit 100%.
    This setup would be 100% efficient. The cost would probably be equal to your current setup without needing to ever change the design.

  • @winreboot
    @winreboot 6 месяцев назад +3

    Cold is always on bottom, hot is always on top, why not use physics to do its job:) What I done is I raised my shed 2 feet of the ground, and lay 2inches of bluestone. Replace the floor with grates and installed fans in ceiling and exhaust from miners hotside on side. Planted few fast-growing trees next to shed to create shade around but that will take time, hehe

  • @timbrooks2763
    @timbrooks2763 6 месяцев назад +1

    Monitor the pressure in both sides, it must be the same! Put a mechanical shutter in the high part of the wall, this can be operated if you get high humidity (to add heat that will lower the humidity in the incoming air side and raise heat) or the incoming air is too cold.
    The pressure in both sides should be not much different from outside in the fresh air with all units running!! If it is high you need to make bigger inlet/outlet to maintain equal pressure or you’re making the miner fans do the extra work and they will die quickly, they will always take the air from the room if it’s easier than taking it form outside (recapturing the heat again)
    If you’re going to put fans in the wall (Not required with balanced non-restrictive pressure) they need to operate on pressure not heat !!, the units have fan controls for heat, the problem is your sucking the heat back up again because its just easier for the unit to grab it, making the inlet/outlet bigger will slow everything down and that will extend the life of the filters which is always a problem! Clean them once a week instead of every 3 days 😊

    • @TheHobbyistMiner
      @TheHobbyistMiner  6 месяцев назад +1

      Great feedback and we'll throughout. I appreciate it! Somethings to consider!

  • @nighttrain1565
    @nighttrain1565 6 месяцев назад +2

    I have a mining room in my house that took a few months of dialing in. It's incredible how strong hot air wants to rise. It doesn't matter if you have fans pulling out air hot air will rise no matter what so I decided to build my exhaust fans pretty much on the ceiling and my intake fans as close to the floor as I could get because that's where the coldest air is, after I did that the fans would nearly turn themselves because the hot air was escaping so fast on its own that it was drawing cold air in on its own. I would put two exhaust fans at the front and rear of the peak of the barn. I would also build awnings over the intakes to prevent them from getting wet and prevent them from getting sunblasted and getting hot! Good luck! Lookin good!

  • @fullyelectric
    @fullyelectric 6 месяцев назад +2

    THM you know a few of my mining locations has 8-12 big boy ASIC in a 5x5x4 (W/H/D) area totally box out and only a single 20x20inch exhaust window and a single 20x20 intake window with zero issues in the summer and in the winter I have to open part of the hot box to reduce the temp in the room, what i am saying is all you need todo is just box out the exhaust side of your rack, making it so the hot air can only go in one directly like a true win tunnel and or hot box design.

  • @minerwind
    @minerwind 6 месяцев назад

    nice! so what I have done is moved my ASIC's as close to the exhausts as I can, then I used tubing to direct any remaining heat for each ASIC, they next thing like others have talked about is just separating hot side and cold side..

  • @defi4everyone276
    @defi4everyone276 6 месяцев назад

    Just pull off the wood/ vent (just 2x4s left), extend the outside of the intake wall the width of a 4x4 and frame an extension on the top and bottom. Put the solid wood back over the extension. Basically, the wall turns into a scoop pulling from the left and right. Line the inside with filter material.

  • @superduperbuildz9190
    @superduperbuildz9190 6 месяцев назад

    Attach plywood or insulation to the hot side of your rack, butt the ASICS up against it, mark exhaust fans, cut holes for just the fans to push thru. Box in entire hot side with foam insulation board. Problem solved. Scoot rack closer to the exhaust side will make it easier as well. Less area to box in.

  • @kr00tman
    @kr00tman 6 месяцев назад +1

    There really isnt a guide on how to mine in a shed lol. Props for figuring out potential issues while its cold, too many people (myself included) build all winter then realize once the weather breaks that there is a problem, and by then it's too late to do anything about it!

  • @Nikon285
    @Nikon285 6 месяцев назад

    There are some great ideas here. Last Bull Run I only had GPUs and this time I have Asics in the garage, but I'm getting that heat vented into the attic with ducting. Next cycle, I'll be doing the shed, so please keep posting so I can learn. Because I'm all about ducting right now and I don't know if this is a good suggestion or not but to grab more of the hot air from the center of the shed farthest from your inline fans, my thought would be to grab 8-inch ducting and run it all the way across between the two fans with a bunch of holes to grab more hot air equally across the top of the shed. Again, just a thought, not an expert opinion, of course

  • @quibblegaze
    @quibblegaze 6 месяцев назад

    0:00: ⚠️ Challenges with heat pocketing in the mining shed could impact mining operations in the future.
    3:12: ⚙️ Inefficient airflow setup in A-frame shed for mining operations causing heat accumulation issues.
    6:28: ⚙️ Challenges with cooling system affecting mining efficiency and temperature control.
    9:26: ⚙️ Enhancing ventilation system in shed to accommodate increased air flow for mining equipment.
    12:56: ⚒️ Innovative ventilation solution for improved airflow and security in a mining shed.
    Timestamps by Tammy AI

  • @kestrel-68-36
    @kestrel-68-36 6 месяцев назад

    My Man, I commented about this and that it would be an issue when you started building this farm. Your easiest and best solution is to put one more exhaust over the window.

  • @hoofhearted7905
    @hoofhearted7905 6 месяцев назад +1

    I think your intake wall has plenty of surface area. With opening it up more you are going to decrease the velocity of air coming across the ASICs. I would just try increasing the exhaust fan CFM and then the ridge fans would help too.

  • @SendBTCtoMercury
    @SendBTCtoMercury 6 месяцев назад

    You should change positions of asics! And install fans on opposite side of door. Your air intake and exhaust distance is very short. Hot air doesn’t just flowing from asic it’s pumping. Its all about distance accumulation of air. Face ur asics towards opposite of entrance door. Problem solved.

  • @slimjim125_gaming4
    @slimjim125_gaming4 6 месяцев назад

    Before removing the wall I personally would move the racks closer to the exhaust. Flush up all your miners and add foam boards completely from side to side and bottom to top. At that point you are forcing all the hot air to be in one location in which only has one place to go, out. That would honestly be cheaper and more efficient than all that extra work with extra expenses.

  • @MrMatt9687
    @MrMatt9687 6 месяцев назад

    Before I would cut up the wall I would add a roof mount exhaust fan the ones people put on there houses for attics.

  • @TheOnlyRealGreyGhost
    @TheOnlyRealGreyGhost 6 месяцев назад

    A simple passive ridgeline roof vent might improve it without the use of additional fans to move air from the peak.

    • @TheHobbyistMiner
      @TheHobbyistMiner  6 месяцев назад

      That would work in a normal shed. However remember the shed is built with negative pressure. That ridgeline vent would turn into an intake.

  • @kestrel-68-36
    @kestrel-68-36 6 месяцев назад

    Keep the 120 over the door as an intake. And get a larger fan over the window. Don’t go for the in-line

  • @SendBTCtoMercury
    @SendBTCtoMercury 6 месяцев назад

    Easier for you use 8” duct attach it to hot side of asic and send it to out. I know from asic there is attachment 6” but u should use 8” for better air flow. Tryst me i tried

  • @stuarth1776
    @stuarth1776 6 месяцев назад

    Hey brother. Don’t know if you have thought of it but use a pass through system. I’m using 29 btc miners in a 10*12 building and haven’t had any issues. Plus save you ALOT of money

  • @imaginariumpictures
    @imaginariumpictures 6 месяцев назад

    Do nothing (at the moment). Does the performance of the ASICs change? Every temperature reported is still cooler than what the ASIC actually is. Put exhaust fans in the roof, a lot of effort and energy is being used to go across the room when mother nature wants to go up. (Leave the intake wall)

  • @thrash95993
    @thrash95993 6 месяцев назад +3

    One thing you could do for the filter wall is to paint the chicken wire black. It will help it almost disappear and not look so bad.

  • @galbatorix-7066
    @galbatorix-7066 6 месяцев назад

    i think the best way, is to make the 2 walls intact. and put 3fans in the roof that will go with the natural flow of hot and cold

  • @bobberg835
    @bobberg835 6 месяцев назад

    Don’t overkill adding the 2 ceiling fans will do the job. I’ve done it.

  • @richierocket246
    @richierocket246 6 месяцев назад

    I would just add that blowing rain is going to make it past those filters during storms. you need some type of lean-to on the outside to keep that blowing rain out.

  • @sonmexconstruction
    @sonmexconstruction 6 месяцев назад

    Why don’t you just move your top rack miners to the middle rack and move the entire rack closer to the fans so they can capture most of the hot air? Seems like this might improve the efficiency of the outtake fans capturing most of the hot air

  • @mindmending
    @mindmending 6 месяцев назад

    You can just move your ASICS down and closer to the exhaust, the other less ideal solution is to duct the exhaust side straight to the exhaust vents, honestly I don’t think you have any problem here other than the configuration.

  • @silicone1234
    @silicone1234 6 месяцев назад

    Flaw increasing the flow is not going to efficiently remove the hot air in the peak. You need to let physics and thermodynamics do their job. IF the air flow right now is turning over the volume of the shed at a decent rate on paper then simply increasing the flow will not get the job done. You will get more of a dead spot though a tunneling effect . I see it all the time in plastics flow. Thus 4 ways to approach in my opinion. 1) force the hot air down with a ceiling fan you have is spin to force the air at the tops down. 2) install 1 or 2 "chimney" into the roof. Bt that a small sheet metal chimney that comes out of the roof and then use an exhaust fan to help pull the dead spot air out of the roof. Remember physics and thermodynamics hot air rises.....might try to use one of the vents at the peak. In fact put your hand over the vents at the peak...do you feel hot air coming out.... if not then increasing the flow at the base will not do the job as well. That is the purpose of those vents . 3) create a positive pressure condition in the shed. Add 2 or more input fans that are the same flow rate as your exhaust fans. Look at how the stock fans work on a asic like wise the AC infinity setup. The borth operate by having a neutral to Positive pressure condition in the volume they are trying to cool. Your set up right now is a neutral to negative pressure condition. With a slightly positive pressure condition you allow the vents at the peak to do their job and you force air out through the top. 4) decrease the volume you are trying to rune over. That would mean a ceiling however it is unknown if the rafters for your roof could support and you might only reduce you volume by 20-25% .

    • @TheHobbyistMiner
      @TheHobbyistMiner  6 месяцев назад

      Thanks for all this feedback! You have given me a bit to think about!

    • @silicone1234
      @silicone1234 6 месяцев назад

      @@TheHobbyistMiner one other suggestion take cheap plastic “flagging” tape. Take a push pins and stick the flagging tape on walls and on ceiling adjust your output fan speed to see exactly how your air is flowing

  • @nighttrain1565
    @nighttrain1565 6 месяцев назад

    I don't see how you are going to be able to keep it cool and dry with an intake wall in the summer. Some days it gets so damn hot and humid It would be 160° inside that barn with nothing but a lawn mower in it😅
    I would think you would have to build an entirely separate room or closet that is lined inside and out with Mylar and reflective material and have like two or three window AC units blowing into thats on the other side of your filter wall. Like a walk-in AC closet lol. Then in the winter time you could just build slots on the AC closet wall to open. But I think keeping this cool in the summer is going to be way harder than you are thinking. No way they will keep themselves cool unless you are like in Alaska or Canada lol

  • @nighttrain1565
    @nighttrain1565 6 месяцев назад

    How hot does it get where you live? How are you going to cool it in the summer? I would have built like a little air conditioning tunnel that has like two air conditioning units on either side that the intakes can pull from in the summertime if it gets real hot there😅

  • @ronwatkins5775
    @ronwatkins5775 6 месяцев назад

    This is the reason im switching to a Fog Hashing C6 immersion system. I live in the desert, so extreme diurnal temperature as well as 120F in the summer. Need to keep ASICS at a more stable temp.

  • @MomotoMan
    @MomotoMan 6 месяцев назад

    Why not just add two exhaust fans at the top of the A-frame? One on the face and back of the shed at the top where the air is pooling up. Having them both exhaust outward. That would allow the hot air to escape and not recirculate. Also this would be the cheapest compared to all suggestions.

  • @thy_invincible
    @thy_invincible 6 месяцев назад

    Can I operate my miner in a different country and get paid to a nicehash account in a different country? Is that possible?

  • @all4uminers587
    @all4uminers587 6 месяцев назад

    HVAC feedback-- start with T20 and a ceiling fan that’s it

  • @polli3578
    @polli3578 6 месяцев назад

    yeah, what could possibly go wrong with a Snow white filter wall.. ;)

  • @paladdin1500
    @paladdin1500 6 месяцев назад

    Fans are too small to push air through, some hot air will rise, just do exhaust in the roof

  • @Smartcryptotactics
    @Smartcryptotactics 6 месяцев назад

    Yeah earlier planning great man❤

  • @jayfuller8218
    @jayfuller8218 6 месяцев назад

    Why not just build a little chimney with a fan blowing upwards? Just gotta put a little covering above it, and that should get rid of all the hot air trapped, no?

  • @zarkov2324
    @zarkov2324 6 месяцев назад +1

    Just put a wall up to separate hot and cold isle

    • @TheHobbyistMiner
      @TheHobbyistMiner  6 месяцев назад

      Maybe. I prefer the open concept from a maintenance perspective. I could do a hot box however I am avoiding that if I can.

    • @zarkov2324
      @zarkov2324 6 месяцев назад

      ​@TheHobbyistMiner yes that would be easier. I do think you will also solve the problem with more airflow. Also shade cloth comes in lots of colours and can hide the blue / white filter from the outside.

    • @jeffjohnson1876
      @jeffjohnson1876 6 месяцев назад

      I agree with zarkov2324 if you allow the hot and cold air to mix you are going to have problems come summertime. The shed is a big grow tent and we all learn how that worked once a lot of heat was added. you need to get the coldest air possible to the intake of the ASICs and exhaust it immediately. @@TheHobbyistMiner

  • @briananderson305
    @briananderson305 6 месяцев назад

    Chicken wire would just keep the honest people honest. It would keep larger animals out though.

  • @RogerStout304
    @RogerStout304 6 месяцев назад

    looks like your ridge vent has been sealed off with foam insulation (or don't have one). Opening that up will go a long way to moving that heat out of the attic.

    • @TheHobbyistMiner
      @TheHobbyistMiner  6 месяцев назад

      That is intentional as if not the exhaust would suck in air through it.

    • @RogerStout304
      @RogerStout304 6 месяцев назад

      @@TheHobbyistMiner I get that, don't want air getting in that's not passing through the asics. I guess my next thought would be to install a ceiling of foam insulation board preventing the heat from going up there at all.

  • @Hothification
    @Hothification 6 месяцев назад

    Just add a ceiling fan to push the hot air down.

  • @fastbladeproductions7961
    @fastbladeproductions7961 6 месяцев назад

    Put fans on the roof and make both sides vented....

  • @josephrao3709
    @josephrao3709 6 месяцев назад

    its the turtle shed lol

  • @tonymegna7956
    @tonymegna7956 6 месяцев назад

    Buck buck buck