CORRECTION: Ancestral cry stats slightly wrong in vid - correct stats below: Max power: 30% ele res, +3% max ele res. With 100% effect: 60% ele res, +6% max ele res
so sad you cannot automate these skills since you no longer get the buffs when the gem is automated , very sad who is crazy enough to cap their resistances with a skill you have to manually cast every few seconds
You can use eternal apple and create a loop with it, although you can only do this with chieftain for the infinite power as it shares the shield slot with redblade banner.
I see in patch note: now has "Supported Warcries do not grant Buffs or Charges to you or Allies", then whats the point of the auto warcry with such gem?
@@kl2999 You don't get buffs, but you get all the exertion effects, like double damage, area, and so, also there is a support that gives more dmg for each exert, and with only 2 exerts its already competitive
one small thing thats worth noting: Urgent Orders support no longer adds 2 seconds to cooldown so if you have a spare link on your warcries thats a lot of extra speed with no downside (except cost)
Update: seems like "100% more effect on minions" on Rallying Cry also scale with warcry buff effect, so if you get 135% warcry buff effect, rallying cry will actually give 235% more effect on minions. So then it will give 1300-1900 flat phys from marohi, equalent of 50 ghastly jewels lol Idea of meme minion build with marohi and rallying cry, with all warcry buff nodes which in total would be around 135% hoping that helmet will have 10%. Then rallying cry buff actually still has 100% increased buff effect on minions, which means that minions get 84% of weapon damage added to them, 3% per 5 power turns into 7% with 135% buff effect, and into 14% with 100% buff effect on minions. Then, marohi with high roll will provide around 780-1160 added flat phys damage to minions or equalent of 30 ghastly jewels with t1 max roll flat phys, insane
its important to note that warcry buffs are only applied once per cast, so they wont work well with minions that have short duration like srs, best use case from them would be perma minions like specters/golems and zombies but im thinking about trying this using baron as the helm to also scale off str and then running specters which douple dip with str scaling, called perfect runic skeleton(they gain 20% weapon attack damage per 10 str you have), they are returning this league from affliction as corpses from ritual.
me, I'm new to almost all Warcries. How many Warcry Gems is possible to effectively use in map ? Please can you explain Just how many variants there are to use multiple Warcries, and what will be the most effective way and why? I heard that you can now reserve warcries with new Support, I'm a bit scared of giving up this much reservation for that. Maybe there are other ways to effectively utilize 3 or more Warcries? I mean is it even possible to have several of Warcry buff on a character at the same time? Sorry for bothering
Without a good way to automate war cries, I don't see them being used much for their buffs. At least I don't see me hitting the buttons for war cries every few seconds. There is a reason why players skilled Call to Arms on the tree and had them on left click or used the Call to Arms gem last league. As Autoexertion removes the buffs you now only get the exterted attacks automated for melee builds and it costs mana reservation on top.
There are 2 options for those using an eternal apple for automated warcries for exerted attacks/buffs as an alternative to autoexertion. Cheap: Use scold's bridle+replica fragility+small cluster enduring composure notable. Late game set up: Echoes of Creation+2 Min Endurance Charge rings+ small cluster enduring composure notable. If you get the "Warcries have a minimum of 10 Power" mastery, you'll get partial buffs during normal combat and you'll always have max power during boss fights.
this looks like a lot of investment. dont get me wrong i hate piano as much as you but that is a bit much. also in the league where endurance charge is op your not going to invest in endurance charges
@@finalfragment8432 i'd rather go for warcries than endurance charges given that you can have 20% life regen/s, +5% base crit (basically perma brittle), and either +6% max res or +50something phys as fire. Chieftain spell caster now might be broken given how little investment you need to get pretty good defenses + the dmg.
@@finalfragment8432 if warcries were instant then sure, piano might be somewhat viable, but because they have cast time, even with all warcry cast speed they still have like 0.2s cast time making it a pain in the ass
@@dragonjim93 I'm planning doing impale EQ of amplification, in pob and combine with the new increase duration support, the after shock will happen after 6+ second, so maybe 4 manual warcries and an auto warcry. in between I may also put some auro mines, for map clearing I think Earthshatter could be enough.
@@dragonjim93 ~3 warcries every 10 seconds at ~0.25 - ~0.5 seconds cast time per warcry. I would not play this build as not a -cockroach- Chieftain as you'd be surprised how often you get 0-9 power and go on cooldown when in dangerous combat. I would recommend slam build with seismic cry and pulverize support. The pulverize will slow attack speed for a large aoe and 49% more damage to make up for attack speed. Lower attack speed, more damage is more efficient for limited (3-5) intimidating cry charges. There's also melee physical damage support.
The real problem I'm having with warcries is that they added this Autoexertion reservation support, but then stripped all the buffs from anything supported by it. It's only going to be useful for exerting attacks... which means that if you want to benefit from the buffs you still have to manually use warcries, or find a way to automate them (golden apple). It seems like they want Chieftain to be the ascendancy focused on the buffs, and Berzerker the one focused on the exertions, given how they've changed the ascendancies. However, the wording on Autoexertion makes me believe that you can still manually use other warcries, so perhaps there's a world where you automate some where you don't care about the buff as much, and then manually cast or otherwise trigger others where you do want the buff. The new Overexertion support makes Autoexertion very attractive for slam builds. It's a bit strange.
I'm probably going to start Zerker and focus on exerts, using forbidden jewels to pull the infinite power if the buffs are strong enough. Potentially getting 20 exerts out of seismic just makes me a special kind of happy.
@@suthtech Here's hoping the double node from zerker is counted last, and doesn't just double the base value. The mastery for 10% chance for 3 extra exerts sounds like it'd be unreliable as hell, but getting 2 from that heist weapon, and the guaranteed +1 on the tree would still put you at 14 lol.
Hey Dream, I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out how the warcry buff effect works. Thankfully one of my viewers referred me to you and answered my question, specifically for the Ancestral Cry effect. You're right, a lot of people are underestimating the max res effect. Getting 90% max res as Chief is gonna be so easy.
My most successful build yet (first to reach level 90, and SSF at that) was an Infernal Cry & Molten Shell Sabotour of all things, and I can only imagine it thriving with this update.
Thanks for a very helpful video! Next time can you put the names of the War Cries up on the screen when you're explaining them? I was killing mobs in PoE while listening and couldn't identify them by the icons.
i can just imagine a more casual friendly life based chieftain armour stacker to be a pretty manageable build now. might look into that after league start when formless flame and replica dreamfeather become a bit more available.
What about General's Cry? From the patch notes it seemed to be dead but with the Chieftain and 2 handers, it might actually be something worthwhile looking at
That dmg penalty is just to make up for the fact that most skills you could use with it were massively buffed. It still works great with certain skills. I've been messing around with Volcanic Fissure of Snaking. It's fantastic, because it generates an eruption where they attack immediately after spawning, it snakes to the target and erupts again, then bounces off a couple other targets before potentially returning to erupt one final time (only if VFoS has 20 quality to get the extra eruption.) In other words, in an ideal scenario, each mirage (6 with 20 quality) can hit the enemy 3 times.
I watched Sirgog read the patch notes, and he was not a fan of the Warcrys at all, and neither was I. But now I see the design GGG is doing. They are way worse without investment, and should be better with investment. I think this is good because it was kinda annoying that they were good enough that every build felt like they needed to use one on Call to Arms. The design space that seems to be missing is there is no way to invest in just 1 warcry. Like you invest in all of them at once so you feel like you need to use all of them to get the most out of your points.
I've been working on a boneshatter chieftain with the new ascendancy node, and let me tell you. I can't make a build for shit lmao. The warcries look insane now, definitely looking to play a carpal tunnel inducing build this league.
should've mentioned autoexertion: Call to Arms: Has been renamed to Autoexertion. It now reserves 15% Mana per Supported Warcry to cause those Warcries to be repeatedly triggered. Autoexertion Support can now support multiple Warcries, and no longer causes Warcries to share Cooldowns. It now grants Supported Skills 0-19% increased Cooldown Recovery Rate (previously 30-11% reduced Cooldown Recovery Rate), and now has "Supported Warcries do not grant Buffs or Charges to you or Allies". It also now cannot support Retaliation Skills. Quality now grants Supported Skills 0-10% increased Cooldown Recovery Rate (previously 0-5%).
You might want to make a video on banners as well. The mastery "Banners also cause Enemies to take 8% increased Damage" is worded the same way as current Bannerman's "Placed Banners also grant 30% increased Attack Damage", which, since it gets attached to the Banner, scales with aura effect. So with 80% Aura Effect from Inspirational, Rallying Icon cluster and 20% quality at 100 Valour that would be 8% * 1.8 * 10 = 144% increased damage taken in addition to the actual Banner effect. And with Perfidy you can make it permanent. Might not be crap if it really works that way?
Alternatively for offensive auras, you could try using Herald of purity+Guardians blessing+Pride which brings up the reservation cost of HOP to 50 but still better than 25+50. And still reserve something else.
Man i am not a scientist i just want to go bonkin and i hope this league is the good one for melee, i will wait one week and look at hcssf builds and copy one of them😅
Im absolutely looking forward to the melee changes considering the hard time I had with Boneshatter at endgame a few leagues ago. I hope we see some really good melee builds that do not require insane budget/investment to get it to work.
It is worth noting that in previous leagues we seen automated Warcry tech using echoes of creation, I bet you this item will be sold in divines as this can completly negate a lot of downsides warcries offer(mainly -cooldown)
In my opinion getting your resistances from the warcry IS plausible, especially if you add duration and macro it. But at the same time, you can't rely on duration too much either, because you also want the exerts for the extra damage. It's a little clunky and low QOL but does certainly have potential. I am probably going to self cast 2 warcries and auto 3. I would self cast all of them if they did not have this insane cast timer...
The buffs are crazy strong but will have low QoL if you try to mash them all into 1 build (unless you're supporting). I would most likely go with 2 of them and call it a day. If you try to do 5 warcries (even with .4 second warcries) that's 2 full seconds of warcrying, eating the duration of the other warcies in the process
You can go up to 0.25 secs of cast time by using urgent orders but it's such a pain in the ass if you are using 4 different warcries... and it's going to end up casting almost 50 mana per cry if you use them with More Duration support.
What are your thoughts on The Eternal Apple? For example, as a chieftain, you could have seismic and ancestral cries socketed there. Then you could trigger these warcries by using enduring cry, endurances charges on kill or passive endurance generation (forbidden jewels and unflinching from the juggernaut). You are giving up on blocking altogether but it might be an alternative for RF chieftain, particularly at leaguestart.
Apple is fun, might be interesting on a spell type build(or as you say, rf) since a lot of the warcry buffs are generic, but I think for slams you'd really want to be using a two hander
Seems strong, but I’m not interested in the “piano” play style. Is there a way to automate these easily or cut down on the need for so many buttons to be pressed?
@@gasres2778 you'll get no buff effect of the warcries nor will the warcries triggered this way be able to get charges from the cluster jewel notable. so only good for exerts and that's it
Hmmm my ignite ice trap og hollow chieftain might have to be turned into a rallying cry overbuffing dom blow just for fun & wielding rebuke of the vaal.
@@joshchilton2336it’s a minion skill normally used with necro or guardian but I’ve played it on other classes just for fun. I think 3 or 4 leagues ago I tried it on a jugg. It’s not op by any means but I do find it fun 😂
Anyone know if I'm allowed to write a macro to cycle warcries? So instead of pressing Q,W,E,R,T I can just press Q,Q,Q,Q,Q. That's legal right? (Basically the macro cycles the input after each press. Since it's 1 input = 1 server request)
@@BP-zv7mb I'm a game developer, so I know I can do the code. I'm not familiar with the software to allow this yet, I'll look into my Logitech mouse software and AutoHotKey. I'll get back to you if I figure it out if You'd like.
I like the new warcrys. But it feels a bit of a catch 22 in regards to keybindings and investment. The more you invest in warcrys the more warcrys you want. I was trying some fire slams with chieftain, so i really want the inferno buff, and well intimidating cry it's a must move speed and double damage, and enduring cry sustains endurances charges and gives me a crap ton of sustain, let's say i go resolute technique so i don't want battlemage's, well sesmic cry is and ancestral cry are a lot of defenses and AoE. So we are talking 5 warcrys here, on top of at least a movement skill, plus the slam. So we are at 7 keys. That's all the main bar skills and i'm gonna have to run molten shell with automation, i'm gonna have to run curse con hit on infernal cry because i don't see any other way to run it. I don't know, overall i like it, but it feels like they could have decreased the amount of buttons a bit. Mostly because if you invest in warcrys you want them all, and it feels like you NEED them all. Autoexertion making you lose the buffs makes it mostly a non go imo
Kind of want to do a warcry six link with urgent orders-more duration-life tap-3 warcrimes of choice Also a life stacker with ivory tower and energy blade + rallying cry + flame link running animate weapon of self reflection theoretically has three damage scalers with life and double dips on rallying cry and EB.
Good roundup on the new warcries. For me, I am probably having a hard time even with 0.4s cast time. It will always stop your character in your tracks and from my pov right now, for slam builds I can only see the chieftain hardcasting and investing into them. For every other ascendancy going into a slam build, they'll probably be autoexerted with no investment except exerted attack modifiers. There is also the issue with only battlemage's cry offering a significant damage boost (outside of armor stackers) and the other buffs being... kind of meh if you factor in the clunky cast time and usage. The max res war cry is particularly not really that good, as you should never outsource your core defenses to a button with cast time stopping your character. The life regen is also kinda meh with leech being buffed this much. The armor cry falls into clunky defense category and only becomes a dps warcry if armor stacking build. At the end of the day, we have to test all this hands on, but my biggest fear rn is the immense change of the "haptic" feel of slam builds with cast time warcries.
Its +5% to all Ele resistances per 5 power, so max power would be +30% to all Ele resists. The flat and max resists have different "per power" scaling, check the patch notes again.
So, does Sione's node mean that you can have no mobs at all around you and it will fire at full power, such as Enduring Cry giving maximum endurance charges if you are all alone?
i really like everything so far on this patch, i'm even fine with placing down banners on the boss of each map, but this warcries change... idk for me most warcries lost their personality, battlemage, infernal, enduring cry, are now just generic buffs rather than a interesting effect.
Excellent breakdown. I haven't done a warcry-focused build before. If you wanted to run multiple warcries, does this mean you'll do a keyboard-finger-roll every 5-7 seconds to get them all back up?
@@dreamcore_ggI think its going to be ridiculous for skills that dont care about exerts. Can do a different style of armour stacker with permanent seismic, or cap your res with 60% all res and 6 max, movement speed, regen, 5% base crit is so op. All you need is the shield, x1 or x2 -1 max endurance and a way of self hit like scorn girdle and endurance composure. Can also stack lets say 10 endurance charges and use 3 min endurance charge grand spectrum to get 9 min endurance, gain 1 and then lose it, while mantaining 9 for defenses purposes.
Unveiled trigger mod on weapon Forbidden Rite (lvl 1) + enduring composure + 2 min frenzy charges on jewelry. you trigger FR, you count as being hit recently. Enduring composure starts giving u an endurance charge per second. You get to max, apple procs, you loose one boom u warcry. rinse and repeat every second. It can obviously be scaled up if you want to invest into endurance charges and get your min via grand spectrums + jewelry. Main idea is to have your min charges be one less than your max so you can proc each second
@@MandruDuce I dont like this personally because you limit your weapon to rare, its very difficult to hit the 4 second trigger mod ans its a suffix slot
What exactly looks good in Regards to the new Warcries? Warcries feel clunky af as long as you can't skill the old keystone "Call to Arms" or use the gem "Call to Arms". This is unless you scale heavly into warcries at which point you have to ask yourself why you just don't scale into something else with less buttons and more convienience. The "Autoexertion" Gem unfortunately stops warcries from giving you buffs or charges which means that warcries will mainly, if not only, be played for the exterted attacks, at which point the buffs on the warcries themselves basically don't matter anymore. But tha's just my 2 cents.
Hey man I love the insights you have in your videos. I would like them more though if you didn't spend as much time reading out all the numbers. You have them written out clearly on the screen. I tend to end up playing your vids at 2x for a large chunk of the duration because of how much of youw script is reading entire stat lines with the viewer. I totally understand it for important numbers or single crucial lines. When it's for things like the exact ele res (not max res) you get with a cry active, or the exact powers per enemy rarity, I feel that showing them for 5-10 sec is adequate. Really enjoy your content so please keep it up!
Pity you didn't mention the warcry effect on allies and neither the total power counted from Roaring Challenge node nor mastery 'warcries have minimum of 10 power'. Since unique enemies grant 20 power and Roaring Challenge raises the bar from 25 to ~31 in case of Battlemage's cry, I suspect it will be 20+10 when against a boss. The ally buff aspect is pretty useful for Dominating Blow, as it gives up to 6% base crit chance to all Sentinels in range. That combined with Infernal Cry should make for some spicy Guardian starter.
when i use warcry and it gets full power then i go to next pack and i use it again but it gain minimum power . the max power will be replaced by weaker one or time will be extended?
What does "increased total Power counted by Warcries" mean? If I took Roaring Challenge for 25% of that, would that mean the total power of e.g. Infernal Cry increases from 25 to 31?
@@Frank_Art the question is not about the maths, the question is whether it works this way at all. From the wording on the Node it could also mean that it just counts more power for each monster, but doesn't count above its cap. Since the stat already existed pre 3.25 I just wanted to know if anyone tested it/knows about it since the wiki doesn't elaborate on it.
hey Dreamcore, can i build an Autoexertion set up with it? 6 l chest Autoexertion with different war crys ? Or will I not get the effect, or will not all war cry be used? im a bit confuse with it^^ .....Edit: ok i think exerts attacks will work but not the buffs that the warcry give ? .......... Edit again : I've found out more... unfortunately for me the chief has died at this point... either you play piono again (and as a very active player I don't feel like pressing tons of buttons all day long)... or You use macros... which is out of the question for me. very unfortunate.
Yeah the new Call to arms/autoexertion support is not great, costs mana reservation and you don't get buffs which is not ideal. For warcry builds the playstyle is going to be a lot of piano unfortunately
@@dreamcore_gg Thanks for the confirmation, I'll probably go than with a rage berserker glacial hammer..^^ i wish you a lot of fun in this awesome league :)
love the video and all the insights you've given! (having said that) "let's get rid of totems cus they are too clunky and people don't want to play melee" same people "let's do the piano playstyle and banner placing instead..." and having said that, im still going to leaguestart a slam build 😁
GGG will never turn melee into an auto-bomber. Some people hated the piano aspect to totems, but other people just didn't like that totems could be killed so easily in higher tiered content especially because those buffs gave you all of your power. Now, sure, the piano thing remains but at least the uptime is guaranteed and you don't have to worry about the buffs drop off when you need it most.
@@dreamcore_gg I agree, i think it will be something interesting to look into and test ^^ Thank you for this video though, just going over all the buffs, quite helpful.
without warcry automation it would be like playing the piano, and i think the warcry automation now reserves mana and doesnt give you its effects right?
Yeah that is now meant for warcries which you just care about the exertion effect of. No buff effect and 15% reserved per cry. I’d think it’s probably worth it for something like intimidating cry since the warcry automation also increases cooldown recovery rate now
Yes, this would be a piano playstyle hence the need to scale duration to minimize the frequency of warcry use. I've seen other builds use the new warcry automation skill to auto shout warcrys not needed for the build purely to generate exerted attack charges.
@@chrispoznich well, i do care about the warcry effect and not the exertion effect. but i cant be bothered to reactivate a skill every 3.4 seconds for it
you forgot urgent order for even more warcry speed(now does not increase cd). also i already played piano builds once and what i hated the most is how fast you can do all cries and how frequent you needed to keep the buffs up. so i think you should try to make it as long as possible and as fast as possible i think you should aim for less then 1 sec cast time for all your war cries and more then 10 secs duration at bear minimum
I did mention it briefly in skill cost section, the problem with that suppot is it's now a 200% cost multi which is insane, 38 mana cost on warcries with just that support
10 sec duration is grabbing all the warcry duration nodes on the tree and using the More Duration support gem. You'd also want Urgent Orders as well as a support so with those 2 you would only be able to choose 4 Warcries and each warcry would be something close to 0.25s or 0.2s cast time meaning it would 1 second to use all 4 warcries every 10 seconds.
GGG has said for years that they wanted to shift gameplay to something that is more active and make equipment matter more, they have done so and look at the reaction. Cant have anything nice with fans like this I swear.
Warden Barkskin and the new passive Behind it. Cast while stunned with lightning Nova and Voltaxic. With the Shock ascendancy points. She will be so thick. Maybe the next Defensive Layer will be Warcry's and spell suppress.
these numericly sounds cool but losing like 20 passives to make warcry buffs stay longer and be more effective along with PIANO pressing them seems a bit bad.Sure you dont want to pick all of them but as a melee user you probably want half of them for sure. Most of true melee builds where using slams with warcries to be effective enough and that made them feel a bit off cause you had to correctly piano warcries before actually attacking your target to be maximum efficient and this was a bit frustrating along with having to keep an eye of urself not dieing from the boss while checking ur warcry buffs, I hope i see this wrong but it seems like they pushing melee into warcy meta Warcry should be a situational buff or something not a build enabler thats my opinion
Custom Mods for PoB (all scaled to 100% increased Warcry buff effect) just copy and paste the ones you need ANCESTRAL CRY +60% to all elemental resistances +6% to all maximum elemental resistances ENDURING CRY 20% of maximum life regenerated per second INFERNAL CRY 50% of Physical damage gained as extra fire damage INTIMIDATING CRY 36% Increased Movement Speed SEISMIC CRY 50% More Armour 150% increased Stun Threshold BATTLEMAGE CRY +5% to Critical Strike Chance
If the one war cry doesn't have a cap, and the 1 notable in the chieftain tree gives infinite power, Wouldn't that give you next attack infinite amount of damage? Im confused
I'll be honest, your video did more to scare me away from warcries than make me excited about them... the amount of investment required to make them decent is shocking.
It has a higher less damage penalty but attack damage was buffed on skill to compensate, it will be about the same as before, possibly a bit stronger using some abilities
very nice ideas but GGG again not understanding that literally nobody will manually warcry and slowing themselves down by doing so. Instant cry with automation or bust. great video.
yeah i would not mind a reservation even of 25% intead of 15% if it meant you could still have the buff , who is crazzy enough to cap their resistances with a manually casted skill
Call to Arms: Has been renamed to Autoexertion. It now reserves 15% Mana per Supported Warcry to cause those Warcries to be repeatedly triggered. Autoexertion Support can now support multiple Warcries, and no longer causes Warcries to share Cooldowns. It now grants Supported Skills 0-19% increased Cooldown Recovery Rate (previously 30-11% reduced Cooldown Recovery Rate), and now has "Supported Warcries do not grant Buffs or Charges to you or Allies". It also now cannot support Retaliation Skills. Quality now grants Supported Skills 0-10% increased
@9:44 I mean at this point I rather just have my fcking totems back along with Call to arms keystone ffs..... so this is the "buff" they promised us for Melee huh...
Nah, because of stuff like that i refuse play melee. I wanna unga-bunga through content, not piano warcry's. Also now you need micro-control banner's and tincture, but hey at least there no need put totem every few seconds now! Thanks GGG!
CORRECTION: Ancestral cry stats slightly wrong in vid - correct stats below:
Max power: 30% ele res, +3% max ele res. With 100% effect: 60% ele res, +6% max ele res
was just gonna say :D
so sad you cannot automate these skills since you no longer get the buffs when the gem is automated , very sad who is crazy enough to cap their resistances with a skill you have to manually cast every few seconds
You can use eternal apple and create a loop with it, although you can only do this with chieftain for the infinite power as it shares the shield slot with redblade banner.
@@MrRafagigaprcant use call to Arms anymore?
@@babciewkapciach3133 call to arms only gives exertions and not the buffs
Remember to get warcry buff you have to self cast no automation here, so more warcry = more buttons to press.
Yea that's the problem, will have to take a pass on that, guess I'll be going glad with it's ridiculous block chance this league
I see in patch note: now has "Supported Warcries do not grant Buffs or Charges to you or Allies", then whats the point of the auto warcry with such gem?
@@kl2999 well, it call autoexertion for a reason.
@@kl2999The new Overexertion Support gives more attack damage per Warcry exerting the attack
@@kl2999 You don't get buffs, but you get all the exertion effects, like double damage, area, and so, also there is a support that gives more dmg for each exert, and with only 2 exerts its already competitive
The intro *perfection*
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one small thing thats worth noting: Urgent Orders support no longer adds 2 seconds to cooldown so if you have a spare link on your warcries thats a lot of extra speed with no downside (except cost)
Update: seems like "100% more effect on minions" on Rallying Cry also scale with warcry buff effect, so if you get 135% warcry buff effect, rallying cry will actually give 235% more effect on minions. So then it will give 1300-1900 flat phys from marohi, equalent of 50 ghastly jewels lol
Idea of meme minion build with marohi and rallying cry, with all warcry buff nodes which in total would be around 135% hoping that helmet will have 10%.
Then rallying cry buff actually still has 100% increased buff effect on minions, which means that minions get 84% of weapon damage added to them, 3% per 5 power turns into 7% with 135% buff effect, and into 14% with 100% buff effect on minions.
Then, marohi with high roll will provide around 780-1160 added flat phys damage to minions or equalent of 30 ghastly jewels with t1 max roll flat phys, insane
its important to note that warcry buffs are only applied once per cast, so they wont work well with minions that have short duration like srs, best use case from them would be perma minions like specters/golems and zombies
but im thinking about trying this using baron as the helm to also scale off str and then running specters which douple dip with str scaling, called perfect runic skeleton(they gain 20% weapon attack damage per 10 str you have), they are returning this league from affliction as corpses from ritual.
@ZwrP yup, spectres and zombies seems like only good way
Edit: also herald of purity since you can refresh their duration
I see what you're saying and understand it's a way to utilize marohi without swinging it but the idea of doing this with dom blow sounds very badass
@@undecided4346 also that, they have high duration, and not barely moving like skeletons lol
Sounds pretty fun!
Who's going to be shouting their way to victory on July 26th?
Me
you forgot overexertion support ;)
me, I'm new to almost all Warcries. How many Warcry Gems is possible to effectively use in map ? Please can you explain Just how many variants there are to use multiple Warcries, and what will be the most effective way and why? I heard that you can now reserve warcries with new Support, I'm a bit scared of giving up this much reservation for that. Maybe there are other ways to effectively utilize 3 or more Warcries? I mean is it even possible to have several of Warcry buff on a character at the same time? Sorry for bothering
@@q0s553 It disables the bonuses
Without a good way to automate war cries, I don't see them being used much for their buffs. At least I don't see me hitting the buttons for war cries every few seconds. There is a reason why players skilled Call to Arms on the tree and had them on left click or used the Call to Arms gem last league. As Autoexertion removes the buffs you now only get the exterted attacks automated for melee builds and it costs mana reservation on top.
There are 2 options for those using an eternal apple for automated warcries for exerted attacks/buffs as an alternative to autoexertion. Cheap: Use scold's bridle+replica fragility+small cluster enduring composure notable. Late game set up: Echoes of Creation+2 Min Endurance Charge rings+ small cluster enduring composure notable. If you get the "Warcries have a minimum of 10 Power" mastery, you'll get partial buffs during normal combat and you'll always have max power during boss fights.
this looks like a lot of investment. dont get me wrong i hate piano as much as you but that is a bit much. also in the league where endurance charge is op your not going to invest in endurance charges
@@finalfragment8432 i'd rather go for warcries than endurance charges given that you can have 20% life regen/s, +5% base crit (basically perma brittle), and either +6% max res or +50something phys as fire. Chieftain spell caster now might be broken given how little investment you need to get pretty good defenses + the dmg.
@@kuba-xy9hj why not piano and get both
@@finalfragment8432Because piano lol
@@finalfragment8432 if warcries were instant then sure, piano might be somewhat viable, but because they have cast time, even with all warcry cast speed they still have like 0.2s cast time making it a pain in the ass
+5% flat crit seems super good, way easier to crit cap with less investment
I made a rough pob, with chieftain and only passive tree, can easily get +105% warcry buff, and more than 10s buff duration and less than 4s cool down
how many buttons per sec?
@@dragonjim93 I'm planning doing impale EQ of amplification, in pob and combine with the new increase duration support, the after shock will happen after 6+ second, so maybe 4 manual warcries and an auto warcry. in between I may also put some auro mines, for map clearing I think Earthshatter could be enough.
@@dragonjim93 ~3 warcries every 10 seconds at ~0.25 - ~0.5 seconds cast time per warcry. I would not play this build as not a -cockroach- Chieftain as you'd be surprised how often you get 0-9 power and go on cooldown when in dangerous combat. I would recommend slam build with seismic cry and pulverize support. The pulverize will slow attack speed for a large aoe and 49% more damage to make up for attack speed. Lower attack speed, more damage is more efficient for limited (3-5) intimidating cry charges. There's also melee physical damage support.
I'd like to see some coverage on what the specific exerts do for each warcry as well!
The real problem I'm having with warcries is that they added this Autoexertion reservation support, but then stripped all the buffs from anything supported by it. It's only going to be useful for exerting attacks... which means that if you want to benefit from the buffs you still have to manually use warcries, or find a way to automate them (golden apple).
It seems like they want Chieftain to be the ascendancy focused on the buffs, and Berzerker the one focused on the exertions, given how they've changed the ascendancies.
However, the wording on Autoexertion makes me believe that you can still manually use other warcries, so perhaps there's a world where you automate some where you don't care about the buff as much, and then manually cast or otherwise trigger others where you do want the buff. The new Overexertion support makes Autoexertion very attractive for slam builds.
It's a bit strange.
I'm probably going to start Zerker and focus on exerts, using forbidden jewels to pull the infinite power if the buffs are strong enough. Potentially getting 20 exerts out of seismic just makes me a special kind of happy.
@@suthtech Here's hoping the double node from zerker is counted last, and doesn't just double the base value. The mastery for 10% chance for 3 extra exerts sounds like it'd be unreliable as hell, but getting 2 from that heist weapon, and the guaranteed +1 on the tree would still put you at 14 lol.
Not only slams, but exertion for rage vortex lasts whole duration and since berserker is the one for rage AND exertion 😏
Hey Dream, I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out how the warcry buff effect works. Thankfully one of my viewers referred me to you and answered my question, specifically for the Ancestral Cry effect. You're right, a lot of people are underestimating the max res effect. Getting 90% max res as Chief is gonna be so easy.
YES AN AMAZING INTRO LET'S GO DREAM
My most successful build yet (first to reach level 90, and SSF at that) was an Infernal Cry & Molten Shell Sabotour of all things, and I can only imagine it thriving with this update.
Thanks for a very helpful video! Next time can you put the names of the War Cries up on the screen when you're explaining them? I was killing mobs in PoE while listening and couldn't identify them by the icons.
i can just imagine a more casual friendly life based chieftain armour stacker to be a pretty manageable build now. might look into that after league start when formless flame and replica dreamfeather become a bit more available.
@@krusty_k yeah and instead of needing to device blessing grace since you can’t reduce the cost anymore, you just hit that war cry
Amor stacked no longer exist righe?
What about General's Cry? From the patch notes it seemed to be dead but with the Chieftain and 2 handers, it might actually be something worthwhile looking at
That dmg penalty is just to make up for the fact that most skills you could use with it were massively buffed. It still works great with certain skills. I've been messing around with Volcanic Fissure of Snaking. It's fantastic, because it generates an eruption where they attack immediately after spawning, it snakes to the target and erupts again, then bounces off a couple other targets before potentially returning to erupt one final time (only if VFoS has 20 quality to get the extra eruption.) In other words, in an ideal scenario, each mirage (6 with 20 quality) can hit the enemy 3 times.
I watched Sirgog read the patch notes, and he was not a fan of the Warcrys at all, and neither was I. But now I see the design GGG is doing. They are way worse without investment, and should be better with investment. I think this is good because it was kinda annoying that they were good enough that every build felt like they needed to use one on Call to Arms.
The design space that seems to be missing is there is no way to invest in just 1 warcry. Like you invest in all of them at once so you feel like you need to use all of them to get the most out of your points.
I've been working on a boneshatter chieftain with the new ascendancy node, and let me tell you. I can't make a build for shit lmao. The warcries look insane now, definitely looking to play a carpal tunnel inducing build this league.
should've mentioned autoexertion:
Call to Arms: Has been renamed to Autoexertion. It now reserves 15% Mana per Supported Warcry to cause those Warcries to be repeatedly triggered. Autoexertion Support can now support multiple Warcries, and no longer causes Warcries to share Cooldowns. It now grants Supported Skills 0-19% increased Cooldown Recovery Rate (previously 30-11% reduced Cooldown Recovery Rate), and now has "Supported Warcries do not grant Buffs or Charges to you or Allies". It also now cannot support Retaliation Skills. Quality now grants Supported Skills 0-10% increased Cooldown Recovery Rate (previously 0-5%).
Hmm the cool down recovery speed it's good buff for corrupting cry general's cry 🤔
You might want to make a video on banners as well. The mastery "Banners also cause Enemies to take 8% increased Damage" is worded the same way as current Bannerman's "Placed Banners also grant 30% increased Attack Damage", which, since it gets attached to the Banner, scales with aura effect. So with 80% Aura Effect from Inspirational, Rallying Icon cluster and 20% quality at 100 Valour that would be 8% * 1.8 * 10 = 144% increased damage taken in addition to the actual Banner effect. And with Perfidy you can make it permanent. Might not be crap if it really works that way?
Alternatively for offensive auras, you could try using Herald of purity+Guardians blessing+Pride which brings up the reservation cost of HOP to 50 but still better than 25+50. And still reserve something else.
Man i am not a scientist i just want to go bonkin and i hope this league is the good one for melee, i will wait one week and look at hcssf builds and copy one of them😅
Im absolutely looking forward to the melee changes considering the hard time I had with Boneshatter at endgame a few leagues ago. I hope we see some really good melee builds that do not require insane budget/investment to get it to work.
I think there will be a lot of good melee setups with moderate investment
Question about auto exertion, new call to arms now doesnt provide buffs so does it mean new call to arms is now useless?
It is worth noting that in previous leagues we seen automated Warcry tech using echoes of creation, I bet you this item will be sold in divines as this can completly negate a lot of downsides warcries offer(mainly -cooldown)
In my opinion getting your resistances from the warcry IS plausible, especially if you add duration and macro it. But at the same time, you can't rely on duration too much either, because you also want the exerts for the extra damage. It's a little clunky and low QOL but does certainly have potential. I am probably going to self cast 2 warcries and auto 3. I would self cast all of them if they did not have this insane cast timer...
This was really helpful thank you! Great content as always 👍
The buffs are crazy strong but will have low QoL if you try to mash them all into 1 build (unless you're supporting). I would most likely go with 2 of them and call it a day. If you try to do 5 warcries (even with .4 second warcries) that's 2 full seconds of warcrying, eating the duration of the other warcies in the process
You can go up to 0.25 secs of cast time by using urgent orders but it's such a pain in the ass if you are using 4 different warcries... and it's going to end up casting almost 50 mana per cry if you use them with More Duration support.
great video sir, very informative. just wondering, @ 10:30 what skill gem you used to freeze adds ?
What are your thoughts on The Eternal Apple? For example, as a chieftain, you could have seismic and ancestral cries socketed there. Then you could trigger these warcries by using enduring cry, endurances charges on kill or passive endurance generation (forbidden jewels and unflinching from the juggernaut). You are giving up on blocking altogether but it might be an alternative for RF chieftain, particularly at leaguestart.
Apple is fun, might be interesting on a spell type build(or as you say, rf) since a lot of the warcry buffs are generic, but I think for slams you'd really want to be using a two hander
Rallying Cry + Iron mass would easily outscale a couple added phys abyss jewels jewels
It may also be possible to use the rune crafting to put the infinite warcry power mod on a 2hander if that mod is in the list.
Seems strong, but I’m not interested in the “piano” play style. Is there a way to automate these easily or cut down on the need for so many buttons to be pressed?
New support allows to autoinherit, u link the pianos and self cast only one before some heavy hits against bosses
@@gasres2778 you'll get no buff effect of the warcries nor will the warcries triggered this way be able to get charges from the cluster jewel notable. so only good for exerts and that's it
@@DayVV4lkEr why? Is it a hotfix?
Fantastic breakdown as always. Thanks for these great 3.25 vids.
Glad they're helpful!
I want to try going for a bleed or ignite slam Cheiftan, but I don't know which slam skill would be beat for that. I wanted to try Earthquake.
Hmmm my ignite ice trap og hollow chieftain might have to be turned into a rallying cry overbuffing dom blow just for fun & wielding rebuke of the vaal.
Is Dom blow pretty good on Cheiftain? Or more a Guardian thing ?
@@joshchilton2336it’s a minion skill normally used with necro or guardian but I’ve played it on other classes just for fun. I think 3 or 4 leagues ago I tried it on a jugg. It’s not op by any means but I do find it fun 😂
Anyone know if I'm allowed to write a macro to cycle warcries?
So instead of pressing Q,W,E,R,T I can just press Q,Q,Q,Q,Q.
That's legal right? (Basically the macro cycles the input after each press. Since it's 1 input = 1 server request)
You'd have to read the ToS but I think as long as it's 1 button = 1 action, it should be fine
Cycling war cries per one button press while using the same key might actually be much more bearable for sure... is it tough to do that macro?
Where would place your movement skill and other skills like blood rage in this case?
@@winson0000 Q was just an example, I'd probably really use one of my Extra Mouse Buttons.
@@BP-zv7mb I'm a game developer, so I know I can do the code.
I'm not familiar with the software to allow this yet, I'll look into my Logitech mouse software and AutoHotKey.
I'll get back to you if I figure it out if You'd like.
I like the new warcrys. But it feels a bit of a catch 22 in regards to keybindings and investment. The more you invest in warcrys the more warcrys you want. I was trying some fire slams with chieftain, so i really want the inferno buff, and well intimidating cry it's a must move speed and double damage, and enduring cry sustains endurances charges and gives me a crap ton of sustain, let's say i go resolute technique so i don't want battlemage's, well sesmic cry is and ancestral cry are a lot of defenses and AoE. So we are talking 5 warcrys here, on top of at least a movement skill, plus the slam. So we are at 7 keys. That's all the main bar skills and i'm gonna have to run molten shell with automation, i'm gonna have to run curse con hit on infernal cry because i don't see any other way to run it.
I don't know, overall i like it, but it feels like they could have decreased the amount of buttons a bit. Mostly because if you invest in warcrys you want them all, and it feels like you NEED them all. Autoexertion making you lose the buffs makes it mostly a non go imo
Kind of want to do a warcry six link with urgent orders-more duration-life tap-3 warcrimes of choice
Also a life stacker with ivory tower and energy blade + rallying cry + flame link running animate weapon of self reflection theoretically has three damage scalers with life and double dips on rallying cry and EB.
i was thinking that too since we got more gemslots from no totems this might work
Good roundup on the new warcries. For me, I am probably having a hard time even with 0.4s cast time. It will always stop your character in your tracks and from my pov right now, for slam builds I can only see the chieftain hardcasting and investing into them. For every other ascendancy going into a slam build, they'll probably be autoexerted with no investment except exerted attack modifiers. There is also the issue with only battlemage's cry offering a significant damage boost (outside of armor stackers) and the other buffs being... kind of meh if you factor in the clunky cast time and usage. The max res war cry is particularly not really that good, as you should never outsource your core defenses to a button with cast time stopping your character. The life regen is also kinda meh with leech being buffed this much. The armor cry falls into clunky defense category and only becomes a dps warcry if armor stacking build.
At the end of the day, we have to test all this hands on, but my biggest fear rn is the immense change of the "haptic" feel of slam builds with cast time warcries.
You can short the cast up to 0.26 with Urgent Orders but you are right, it's still sluggish.
Its +5% to all Ele resistances per 5 power, so max power would be +30% to all Ele resists.
The flat and max resists have different "per power" scaling, check the patch notes again.
You're right thanks! I've updated the correct stats in pinned comment
So, does Sione's node mean that you can have no mobs at all around you and it will fire at full power, such as Enduring Cry giving maximum endurance charges if you are all alone?
Yes
@@dreamcore_gg awesome, thank you!
i really like everything so far on this patch, i'm even fine with placing down banners on the boss of each map, but this warcries change... idk for me most warcries lost their personality, battlemage, infernal, enduring cry, are now just generic buffs rather than a interesting effect.
Excellent breakdown. I haven't done a warcry-focused build before. If you wanted to run multiple warcries, does this mean you'll do a keyboard-finger-roll every 5-7 seconds to get them all back up?
For the buffs yes, for exertion there is a support that automates them making them reserve mana
honestly, auto seismic & intimidating. then one or two manual cries woldn't be too bad. 4 war cry still 72% + 10% more dmg from overexert.
The question now is - what's the best Eternal Apple tech to reliably proc socketed warcries and still benefit from endu charges?
Eternal Apple is a fun one, it might see quite a bit more use this league for people not wanting to click warcries
@@dreamcore_ggI think its going to be ridiculous for skills that dont care about exerts. Can do a different style of armour stacker with permanent seismic, or cap your res with 60% all res and 6 max, movement speed, regen, 5% base crit is so op. All you need is the shield, x1 or x2 -1 max endurance and a way of self hit like scorn girdle and endurance composure.
Can also stack lets say 10 endurance charges and use 3 min endurance charge grand spectrum to get 9 min endurance, gain 1 and then lose it, while mantaining 9 for defenses purposes.
Unveiled trigger mod on weapon Forbidden Rite (lvl 1) + enduring composure + 2 min frenzy charges on jewelry. you trigger FR, you count as being hit recently. Enduring composure starts giving u an endurance charge per second. You get to max, apple procs, you loose one boom u warcry. rinse and repeat every second. It can obviously be scaled up if you want to invest into endurance charges and get your min via grand spectrums + jewelry. Main idea is to have your min charges be one less than your max so you can proc each second
@@MandruDuce I dont like this personally because you limit your weapon to rare, its very difficult to hit the 4 second trigger mod ans its a suffix slot
@@valhatv8505 so far, it seems like self warcrying is the way, too much investment otherwise
Any changes to cyclone? CN you more as points ?
What exactly looks good in Regards to the new Warcries? Warcries feel clunky af as long as you can't skill the old keystone "Call to Arms" or use the gem "Call to Arms". This is unless you scale heavly into warcries at which point you have to ask yourself why you just don't scale into something else with less buttons and more convienience.
The "Autoexertion" Gem unfortunately stops warcries from giving you buffs or charges which means that warcries will mainly, if not only, be played for the exterted attacks, at which point the buffs on the warcries themselves basically don't matter anymore. But tha's just my 2 cents.
I'm torn between two builds. Elemental Hit Warden and Infernal Cry with Infernal Blow Chieftan
Am I stupid for thinking that they didn't change Rallying Cry's '5% more damage per nearby ally'? They didn't say they removed it in the patch notes.
Also maybe using forbidden flesh/flame (new war bringer) even stronger ?
Hey man I love the insights you have in your videos. I would like them more though if you didn't spend as much time reading out all the numbers. You have them written out clearly on the screen. I tend to end up playing your vids at 2x for a large chunk of the duration because of how much of youw script is reading entire stat lines with the viewer. I totally understand it for important numbers or single crucial lines. When it's for things like the exact ele res (not max res) you get with a cry active, or the exact powers per enemy rarity, I feel that showing them for 5-10 sec is adequate.
Really enjoy your content so please keep it up!
And what about the 5% more damage per ally from rallying cry, does it scale with war cry buff?
Pity you didn't mention the warcry effect on allies and neither the total power counted from Roaring Challenge node nor mastery 'warcries have minimum of 10 power'. Since unique enemies grant 20 power and Roaring Challenge raises the bar from 25 to ~31 in case of Battlemage's cry, I suspect it will be 20+10 when against a boss.
The ally buff aspect is pretty useful for Dominating Blow, as it gives up to 6% base crit chance to all Sentinels in range. That combined with Infernal Cry should make for some spicy Guardian starter.
All great points
@@dreamcore_gg Soo, despite them being great points, maybe you'd like to make a video about it? :P
when i use warcry and it gets full power then i go to next pack and i use it again but it gain minimum power . the max power will be replaced by weaker one or time will be extended?
there is no minumum power if your using chieftain ascendancy, only maximum doesnt matter if there is zero enemies or 50
@@banishedbr no. Its not. And it has zeroeaning to my question
t yfor the vid! what would be the best warcry combo for earthshatter
Hey Dream, you specify for “allies” for Rallying Cry, would this buff not effect you as well?
Nothing in the patch notes said that part of the gem was changing, so it's still the same as before > buff is only granted to allies
"Now I fight as Horah Loux, WARRIORRARRRR!!"
now im confused what marauder ascendancy to play they all look good this patch.
What does "increased total Power counted by Warcries" mean? If I took Roaring Challenge for 25% of that, would that mean the total power of e.g. Infernal Cry increases from 25 to 31?
Yes, that, if you would get x you get x*1.25
@@Frank_Art the question is not about the maths, the question is whether it works this way at all. From the wording on the Node it could also mean that it just counts more power for each monster, but doesn't count above its cap. Since the stat already existed pre 3.25 I just wanted to know if anyone tested it/knows about it since the wiki doesn't elaborate on it.
So infinite power means I get the maximum effect even if I have just a single white zombie standing next to me?
hey Dreamcore, can i build an Autoexertion set up with it? 6 l chest Autoexertion with different war crys ? Or will I not get the effect, or will not all war cry be used? im a bit confuse with it^^ .....Edit: ok i think exerts attacks will work but not the buffs that the warcry give ? .......... Edit again : I've found out more... unfortunately for me the chief has died at this point... either you play piono again (and as a very active player I don't feel like pressing tons of buttons all day long)... or You use macros... which is out of the question for me. very unfortunate.
Yeah the new Call to arms/autoexertion support is not great, costs mana reservation and you don't get buffs which is not ideal. For warcry builds the playstyle is going to be a lot of piano unfortunately
@@dreamcore_gg Thanks for the confirmation, I'll probably go than with a rage berserker glacial hammer..^^ i wish you a lot of fun in this awesome league :)
love the video and all the insights you've given! (having said that) "let's get rid of totems cus they are too clunky and people don't want to play melee" same people "let's do the piano playstyle and banner placing instead..." and having said that, im still going to leaguestart a slam build 😁
GGG will never turn melee into an auto-bomber. Some people hated the piano aspect to totems, but other people just didn't like that totems could be killed so easily in higher tiered content especially because those buffs gave you all of your power. Now, sure, the piano thing remains but at least the uptime is guaranteed and you don't have to worry about the buffs drop off when you need it most.
Does Buffeffect raise the "up to a maximum" cap of a specific warcry gem? I thought it is a hardcap and buffeffect only helps in reaching the cap.
The maximum is the total stat that can be gained from power scaling, buff effect is a multiplier on the buff thereafter
@@dreamcore_gg Thanks for clarifying :) Keep on with your content!
Warcry support build is really shaping up to be something quite fun
This is something I hadn't considered much but actually, that will be quite strong!
@@dreamcore_gg I agree, i think it will be something interesting to look into and test ^^ Thank you for this video though, just going over all the buffs, quite helpful.
What about the keystone that makes warcries instant? isen't that super good here?
It was removed last patch
Only see this being viable as in a 1 warcry in a regular build, a few in permanent minions build and full warcrys as a secondary aurabot in teams
Slammers are absolutely using anywhere between 3 and 6 warcries
@@dreamcore_gg But you dont get the buff if auto casted no? Wasnt that a change?
You missed rework of auto-casting warcries, you can now reserve 15% of mana per cry.
Not missed - the video is about warcry buffs and autoexertion support stops the warcry buffs from being applied to you
@@dreamcore_gg oh, that's sad :(
does the 2.5% base crit warcry buff apply when unarmed as well??
Yes
without warcry automation it would be like playing the piano, and i think the warcry automation now reserves mana and doesnt give you its effects right?
Yeah that is now meant for warcries which you just care about the exertion effect of. No buff effect and 15% reserved per cry. I’d think it’s probably worth it for something like intimidating cry since the warcry automation also increases cooldown recovery rate now
Yes, this would be a piano playstyle hence the need to scale duration to minimize the frequency of warcry use. I've seen other builds use the new warcry automation skill to auto shout warcrys not needed for the build purely to generate exerted attack charges.
yep no buffs only exerts effect and effects on enemy
@@chrispoznich well, i do care about the warcry effect and not the exertion effect. but i cant be bothered to reactivate a skill every 3.4 seconds for it
@@dervakommtvonhinten517 that has always been the problem with warcries and probably will continue to be.
New warcries and new rage mechanic looking way too OP. Should be a fun league.
you forgot urgent order for even more warcry speed(now does not increase cd). also i already played piano builds once and what i hated the most is how fast you can do all cries and how frequent you needed to keep the buffs up. so i think you should try to make it as long as possible and as fast as possible i think you should aim for less then 1 sec cast time for all your war cries and more then 10 secs duration at bear minimum
I did mention it briefly in skill cost section, the problem with that suppot is it's now a 200% cost multi which is insane, 38 mana cost on warcries with just that support
10 sec duration is grabbing all the warcry duration nodes on the tree and using the More Duration support gem. You'd also want Urgent Orders as well as a support so with those 2 you would only be able to choose 4 Warcries and each warcry would be something close to 0.25s or 0.2s cast time meaning it would 1 second to use all 4 warcries every 10 seconds.
@@zabrac1566 i think you can reach 14 secs duration if you grab the more duration wheel next to the sicon
@@dreamcore_gg yep your right i did not think it through with 4 warcries thats like 150 mana
Good video man,the problem is not the buff but I personaly can't stand this piano buff management,there's no way I'm gonna touch all this warcry.
so is generals cry going to be ok with this update
GGG has said for years that they wanted to shift gameplay to something that is more active and make equipment matter more, they have done so and look at the reaction. Cant have anything nice with fans like this I swear.
im gonna need a good jugg tank warcry build
Warden Barkskin and the new passive Behind it. Cast while stunned with lightning Nova and Voltaxic. With the Shock ascendancy points. She will be so thick. Maybe the next Defensive Layer will be Warcry's and spell suppress.
these numericly sounds cool but losing like 20 passives to make warcry buffs stay longer and be more effective along with PIANO pressing them seems a bit bad.Sure you dont want to pick all of them but as a melee user you probably want half of them for sure.
Most of true melee builds where using slams with warcries to be effective enough and that made them feel a bit off cause you had to correctly piano warcries before actually attacking your target to be maximum efficient and this was a bit frustrating along with having to keep an eye of urself not dieing from the boss while checking ur warcry buffs,
I hope i see this wrong but it seems like they pushing melee into warcy meta
Warcry should be a situational buff or something not a build enabler thats my opinion
Custom Mods for PoB (all scaled to 100% increased Warcry buff effect) just copy and paste the ones you need
ANCESTRAL CRY
+60% to all elemental resistances
+6% to all maximum elemental resistances
ENDURING CRY
20% of maximum life regenerated per second
INFERNAL CRY
50% of Physical damage gained as extra fire damage
INTIMIDATING CRY
36% Increased Movement Speed
SEISMIC CRY
50% More Armour
150% increased Stun Threshold
BATTLEMAGE CRY
+5% to Critical Strike Chance
Do these warcries still give exerted attacks?.
But if you aut-cast it, they seem to be worthless. They give no buffs???
That intro caught me off guard so much 😂
so many possibilities, i dont know what to play lol. maybe i pick with rng 🤷♂️
Path Of Exile: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE of Kalguur
Life Tab + recovery 15% when you warcry = no mana cost + heal
Armor stacker build n red banner gonna be expensive this league. 😂
If the one war cry doesn't have a cap, and the 1 notable in the chieftain tree gives infinite power, Wouldn't that give you next attack infinite amount of damage? Im confused
95% block chance, rage, warcry, dual wielding retaliate gladiator . LOGIN . i might need to be lvl 150 to pull that off though
I'll be honest, your video did more to scare me away from warcries than make me excited about them... the amount of investment required to make them decent is shocking.
Not sure how that was your takeaway but
but piano playstyle will leave a mark after some days ;D
rip str jug flicker:(
what about general's cry?
It has a higher less damage penalty but attack damage was buffed on skill to compensate, it will be about the same as before, possibly a bit stronger using some abilities
@@dreamcore_gg btw, do you know what happens if you dont link an attack with generals cry? cant find info on that...
@@Skilez You can still use it, fe. for use with corrupting cry support
+5 ele res per power is such a waste of a stat.
its not like anyone gonna rely on it for capping their res.
very nice ideas but GGG again not understanding that literally nobody will manually warcry and slowing themselves down by doing so. Instant cry with automation or bust. great video.
yeah i would not mind a reservation even of 25% intead of 15% if it meant you could still have the buff , who is crazzy enough to cap their resistances with a manually casted skill
@@MrRafagigapr Gets me excited for Poe 2. . . Not
Its called call to arms... That gives you auto warcries
Call to Arms: Has been renamed to Autoexertion. It now reserves 15% Mana per Supported Warcry to cause those Warcries to be repeatedly triggered. Autoexertion Support can now support multiple Warcries, and no longer causes Warcries to share Cooldowns. It now grants Supported Skills 0-19% increased Cooldown Recovery Rate (previously 30-11% reduced Cooldown Recovery Rate), and now has "Supported Warcries do not grant Buffs or Charges to you or Allies". It also now cannot support Retaliation Skills. Quality now grants Supported Skills 0-10% increased
im so lazy ..im using the auto warcry to activate thos warcry.... im jus a noobie .pls dont hurt me
Hmmm corrupting cry build with that 80 % warcry speed
Does infinite power enduring cry grant infinite endurance charges?
1 per 5 power
@@fierypandaofdoom that's not the question. Is the cap on power for Regen or charges or both
nice
@9:44 I mean at this point I rather just have my fcking totems back along with Call to arms keystone ffs.....
so this is the "buff" they promised us for Melee huh...
Nah, because of stuff like that i refuse play melee. I wanna unga-bunga through content, not piano warcry's. Also now you need micro-control banner's and tincture, but hey at least there no need put totem every few seconds now! Thanks GGG!