Why I Feel Bad for New Genshin Impact Players:

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    I feel terrible for new Genshin Impact players. Without a change, it will take weeks if not months to even use new characters being added into the game!

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  • @MTashed
    @MTashed  Год назад +120

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    • @yonekek3290
      @yonekek3290 Год назад

      E

    • @Omnidow03
      @Omnidow03 Год назад

      Hey that's me. A new player. I started in August - help lol 😁

    • @hoshi_no
      @hoshi_no Год назад +1

      Nah I'll wait higan eruthyll instead

    • @PaulPavloPablo
      @PaulPavloPablo Год назад +4

      I know you must be bored. This is your 3rd account. The first account was where you spent money, your second account was your f2p account, and then there's this account. You've already said multiple times that you're bored so creating a new account doesn't really make any sense. This new account will be even more boring the 3rd time around.
      Can you just find a new game already? I would enjoy watching you play a new game more than watching you suffer playing this game over and over again. I can see it in your eyes and in your facial expressions that you're not enjoying yourself but you think this is what your viewers want to see. Maybe you can play some console games. For example, I would enjoy watching you play "Detroit: Becoming Human" or maybe FF7 Remake. You'll be having more fun and we'll be having fun too. You can still review genshin when new characters come out if you really want to but creating an alt account for the 3rd time is just overdoing it.

    • @plat4663
      @plat4663 Год назад

      Obtaining and building characters is more of an end game thing to do.
      When you're at a low adventure rank you should just focus on playing the game normally.

  • @HinaCabina
    @HinaCabina Год назад +2402

    Imagine your first 5 star character is yae miko or shenhe and you needa beat all of enkonomiya to level them up

    • @kavinbala8885
      @kavinbala8885 Год назад +91

      @DragnBlaze yae and shenhe still worse probably
      don't we need like ar 50 or something to get there. maybe i'm just crazy tho

    • @phatpat63
      @phatpat63 Год назад +82

      I started playing the first week of August 2022. I've played for at least a few hours pretty much every day since then. I just finished Enkonomiya two weeks ago.

    • @The_Lightless
      @The_Lightless Год назад +42

      @@kavinbala8885I don’t think anything is AR 50 locked yet I’m pretty sure everything is 40-45s.

    • @lordkaiser1404
      @lordkaiser1404 Год назад +32

      a new player doesn't think that way.. you only think that way because you already experienced that..

    • @sakiamira
      @sakiamira Год назад +41

      Yae and Shenhe were the two units that opened everyone's eyes to this issue

  • @kfremont5338
    @kfremont5338 Год назад +897

    We desperately need a skip dialogue option. Also a gadget wheel that works.

    • @CrimsonRayne
      @CrimsonRayne Год назад +39

      Some dialouge has some animations. Characters walking but they could easily add it in. Odd that they dont

    • @brianna2352
      @brianna2352 Год назад +60

      For real. Or add reading speed. I'm done reading before they're halfway through the dialogue 😞

    • @vergil_6707
      @vergil_6707 Год назад +3

      literally

    • @natashamerline
      @natashamerline Год назад +43

      And mute Paimon

    • @xPayBakx
      @xPayBakx Год назад +7

      Fr I hate the dialogue

  • @kokocute123
    @kokocute123 Год назад +752

    I wish they had a barter system where we can trade earlier nation ascension materials, like those in Mond and Liyue, with Inazuma and Sumeru materials so we can level up newer characters.

  • @deltafall4776
    @deltafall4776 Год назад +710

    I introduced one of my friends to Genshin and have been helping them. They ended up getting kuki shinobu really early and ended up liking them a lot. This really opened my eyes to how bad it can be for new players. As she’s locked not only behind the inazuma and the raiden boss, but also the end of the chasm with the ruin serpent. Which is horrendous.

    • @Kholanee
      @Kholanee Год назад +29

      Had the same situation with sayu and kuki, but I just joined my friends world and pillaged

    • @MrGrenardo
      @MrGrenardo Год назад

      Well you should of known that when you introduces one of your friends to this shit of a game

    • @joeyisabsb1
      @joeyisabsb1 Год назад +19

      @@Kholanee i actually never thought about that. I guess joining others worlds is the way to go.

    • @Kholanee
      @Kholanee Год назад +16

      Yeah but this only workedd so well for me bscause my friend basically did all her quests but stayed on AR 30 or 35(can't remember) and didn't ascend which meant she had all the eareas unlocked but her world level was the same as mine so I could always join her. It's not easy finding people at a low AR with a fully unlocked map, I just got lucky

    • @blazypoo1723
      @blazypoo1723 Год назад +4

      I feel like for newer players, since some characters are literally locked behind a progression wall, they should make a system to where newer players just can't get those characters from pulls at all since they'd be of no use to them at all past lvl 20 or 30. And as the player progresses, like lets say they are nearing the end of Liyue's story and is preparing to travel towards Inazuma, they then unlock the characters for said region.

  • @wrenneinzbern
    @wrenneinzbern Год назад +801

    Haven't watched yet but it's probably you can't build newer characters without going through endless hours of story.

    • @karyawanteladan5700
      @karyawanteladan5700 Год назад +86

      Yae mats need to going through whole enkanomiya quest. cmiiw, but it's not even a main story lol

    • @Hello1_101
      @Hello1_101 Год назад +33

      There is also a bunch of AR gated quest :( which makes me want to play something else. For example you need to be AR 40 to do that quest.
      I hope they fix it, I can't even imagine how new players play in 2024.

    • @B-Str0
      @B-Str0 Год назад +45

      Yep I made a new account during cyno banner and ended up getting him them getting nahida and I had to put in countless hours getting through the archon quests just to upgrade them. That sumeru archon quest was ridiculous and I was literally clicking through dialogue for A week straight

    • @sldoee
      @sldoee Год назад +10

      @@B-Str0 I feel so bad for people who actually care about story now that sumeru is a thing

    • @deceitful_angels1
      @deceitful_angels1 Год назад +4

      The story I's the best bit man

  • @adamferdian5867
    @adamferdian5867 Год назад +257

    imagine when snezhnaya is unlocked and you just get a new character from that region but you still at ar15, that's definitly bruh moment

    • @imperial_7776
      @imperial_7776 Год назад +29

      Imagine new player's collecting : 800 cryoculus
      While they still roaming around in Mondstad 💀💀

    • @fiyibomiolabode
      @fiyibomiolabode Год назад +1

      it will probably be ar gated

    • @uhoh_itsmiko
      @uhoh_itsmiko Год назад +6

      hey, despite snezhnaya probably going to be like 4 sumerus big, nothing in sumeru is AR gated you could go there i think itll be next to mondstadt so new players might not have trouble with it

    • @Quin-Therj
      @Quin-Therj 10 месяцев назад +2

      happened to me im ar12 and already got furina

  • @Rotgobber
    @Rotgobber Год назад +504

    Raiden was my very first pull on my account, I agree wholeheartedly. It took me so long to get to Inazuma and because I loved playing with her I thought Inazuma would be fun but most stuff in Inazuma is immune to Electro lol including her ascension boss

    • @stormauror2642
      @stormauror2642 Год назад +49

      yea and the inzuma weather sucksssss i hate it there as a newbie

    • @nigachad2293
      @nigachad2293 Год назад +30

      @@stormauror2642 you will love it if you area cryo main

    • @Steel12able
      @Steel12able Год назад +16

      @I Liked A Comment & Accidentally Created A Channel not really , the free ones are good enough to clear the overworld once you build them properly

    • @notachillguy2872
      @notachillguy2872 Год назад +10

      @I Liked A Comment & Accidentally Created A Channel Free units and new dendro addition can easily carry new players. The problem is more than 90% of the new players doesn't know how to build them and they just do unga bunga builds and suffer until some higher ar player helps and explains them how to build characters and teams just like in my beginner day a guy helped me alot to understand this game better. Rest i learned from youtube guides

    • @mei_xiao6478
      @mei_xiao6478 Год назад

      @ilacaacac3069nah fr it doesn’t matter if u can’t build that 5 star right now fr u can get someone u like and build them later on

  • @lootogobbo2731
    @lootogobbo2731 Год назад +287

    I actually didn't feel a lot of these struggles. I was so clueless that I just played it super casually but I grinded the quests hard to find out what happens. Most of my characters were lvl 40 with lvl 20 weapons when I ran out of archon quests after Inazuma 😂 I was AR 43 when i found out I could heal from statue of seven. I had the most fun playing genshin when I was clueless.

    • @ElPanTostado
      @ElPanTostado Год назад +51

      playing this game clueless was worth the experience

    • @vasim495
      @vasim495 Год назад +37

      That's the best way to play it. That's how I played the game too, it was fun 🤷‍♂️ way better than the grind culture being pushed by RUclipsrs imo.

    • @BladeDevil
      @BladeDevil Год назад +3

      Bro, that is next level clueless

    • @davidwhite206
      @davidwhite206 Год назад +6

      Maybe I need to yeet this video and go in blind. Just downloaded it last night. Never played it before...

    • @winternight1420
      @winternight1420 Год назад +2

      I made an account years ago but actually started playing like a week ago. I was clueless about the healing from the Statue of Seven too and discovered it randomly. I got a nice character that heals everyone by using her power and so I can against 30+ level monsters. I only have seven characters and I have plenty too level them up 20+. The only thing that frustrates me are the dialogues, but overall I find it fun.

  • @zikenn1846
    @zikenn1846 Год назад +106

    Veteran players: the game is too easy because my characters are too powerful which makes the game boring
    New players: the game is too hard. I can't level up my new characters because the materials are story locked

    • @hoitem6780
      @hoitem6780 Год назад +8

      Meanwhile Necrit, a new player that uses a lv 40 Yelan against lv 70 enemies: This game's pretty easy it would be cool if they added a hard gamemode.

    • @dahandsomeguywithcoolglass8949
      @dahandsomeguywithcoolglass8949 Год назад

      Bruh

  • @Mugi322
    @Mugi322 Год назад +358

    People say they’re less concerned with appealing to veteran players by appeasing them with endgame content and are more focused on bringing in newer players (mainly to syphon money out of) but putting the locations for this awful balloon collecting event in later areas like the desert just goes to show how little thought they give about newer players. Oh well, i’m really looking forward to collecting coins in a boat with my endgame characters. Make sure to pull for Alhaitham! He’ll really give you an advantage against those coins!

    • @roadrunner9332
      @roadrunner9332 Год назад +18

      Kinda new player here (started playing on a regular basis in December 22).
      At least they placed the final stages of the balloon event in Sumeru (even somewhat new players can reach the locations, you just have to reach the area) and not in Inazuma (an area which you can't enter until you've fulfilled many different story missions and quests). I don't think they did it the ideal way (you basically have to run through three Nations without being able to take your time and explore them) but it could have been worse.

    • @hermitgreenn
      @hermitgreenn Год назад +7

      Okay but events and characters also serve to promote the new content. If everything happened in Mondstadt, the public perception would be that Genshin is that BOTW ripoff.

    • @SirEditzzz962
      @SirEditzzz962 Год назад

      @@roadrunner9332 NA or EU?

    • @racool911
      @racool911 Год назад +3

      To be fair the balloon collecting event was a lot of fun

    • @Mugi322
      @Mugi322 Год назад +5

      @Racool i’m surprised you think so. Personally, i prefer actually using the characters i’ve pulled for and invested heaps of resin into

  • @grahm5643
    @grahm5643 Год назад +75

    I actually found the biggest detractor for starting as a new player was how many options you have avalible. While its nice to have so many potential paths, it also makes knowing which one to pick or what to do a huge pain. Id liken it to returning to Destiny 2 at the very end of a season where theres so many quests in your tab or in the tower that it becomes overwhelming. And thats just with 4 regions, and were supposedly gonna get up to 7.

    • @Anri17_
      @Anri17_ Год назад +6

      Having to pick the "right" option shouldn't even be an issue. It only is because the game is so grindy.

    • @yumekyn6283
      @yumekyn6283 Год назад

      luckly the only important thing to do is to save fragile resin until ar 40, but this game is massive and it's easy to get lost

  • @sempergumby2341
    @sempergumby2341 Год назад +275

    I just started playing 2 weeks ago and you are literally describing the struggle that I have been living.

    • @june4994
      @june4994 Год назад +6

      oh gosh i hope u do have fun tho the most important thing is to have fun and enjoy the game but of course its a struggle we have to face

    • @Rj_xxiv
      @Rj_xxiv Год назад +14

      Same bro the quests are getting hard woth low level weapons and characters its hard to beat the bosses but thanx to all those maxxed out players who helped me in co-op

    • @luv1uy
      @luv1uy Год назад +1

      Same

    • @renmatias6775
      @renmatias6775 Год назад +5

      Bro I play this game way too much. I started half way through December and I’m ar 46💀💀💀

    • @jarianwarren69
      @jarianwarren69 Год назад +1

      @@june4994 the game blocks you from that

  • @joonjun22
    @joonjun22 Год назад +149

    Agree 100%. I'm new player here, played for around 1 month already. I have to grind main storyline to inazuma so that i can level up my raiden and play her and also to join events for the rewards before it runs out. It's very frustrating cause i felt like i've missed a lot of things along the way. I think the best way the dev can do to deal with this problem is to enable player to convert some amount of let say monstradt materials to inazuma/sumeru material every week. That will definitely make the game more enjoyable for new players.

    • @aoyamabluemountain3055
      @aoyamabluemountain3055 Год назад +16

      that's a good idea. My brother plays this game only for a few hours and already drop the game. He say it is too much for him and is kinda overwhelming bc he is the type who wants to catch up with the story's progress but the way they make this is not new player friendly. I've noticed this issues long time ago and already mention them in the feedback but I don't think they even read the feedback that the players write to them.

    • @apinog8
      @apinog8 Год назад +9

      @@aoyamabluemountain3055 They just want to rush everything to be at the same phase as a player that started two years ago, things take time. You’re supposed to play the game as MiHoYo intended to. If I started Genshin now, I’ll be so happy because there are a lot of things to do and I will take my time to enjoy those things, and the game itself. (FREE GAME BTW).

    • @sempergumby2341
      @sempergumby2341 Год назад +5

      @@apinog8 I feel rushed to get to inazuma to level up Ayato. He's my favorite character and I have him but he's lacking power pretty bad for two weeks now. He's like a humanoid Magikarp using splash against enemies.

    • @ghostwritersrus3225
      @ghostwritersrus3225 Год назад

      Yeah I'm having similar issues. I'm on day 45 and it feels super unbalanced because I pushed for Inazuma to level Raiden. I'm all the way to the boss battles with Raiden but I can't beat level 4 of Spiral Abyss and I've barely done anything in Sumeru. 😭

    • @aoyamabluemountain3055
      @aoyamabluemountain3055 Год назад +2

      @@apinog8 Well people have their own ways of playing.
      Don't you know? This is not free tbh bc this game is designed so that you will spend money to get what you want unless you are super lucky and get a god-tier account. If not, you will suffer the pain of waiting and farming for who knows how long.

  • @StandardsInOurLives
    @StandardsInOurLives Год назад +30

    I feel like they should have a character specific event, which unlocks if you get that character and it teleports you to a separate domain and then it gives you enough material upon finishing to get a character to lvl 60 not including books and mora, as it would be great for new and old players who just got a new character.

  • @seria3692
    @seria3692 Год назад +64

    Another issue is the missing story archs from the past updates like Archipelago etc. Which can be annoying if you've started recently and wanted to know how the story progresses

    • @divinesan7786
      @divinesan7786 Год назад +1

      Story from lets say Golden Archipelago has nothing related to the main storyline so missing it kinda sucks but won’t affect anything.

    • @seria3692
      @seria3692 Год назад +11

      @@divinesan7786 true but updates like that alongside other ones will create holes in the complete lore. Being a lore fanatic missing out on the 1st time it was introduced had no clue htf it came about

    • @Rollerbear712
      @Rollerbear712 Год назад

      @divinesan7786 True but missing out Unreconciled Stars affects it as it goes over a really inportant point in the story, and the first time we are introduced to Fischl Oz and Balladeer in the storyline. Should be unlocked after completing Mona's intro questline. Mihoyo should just add the story even if they feel stingy about not giving away a free copy of Fischl that was still hard to grind for. Maybe even have that as a requirement for only getting the 500 primos even

    • @divinesan7786
      @divinesan7786 Год назад +1

      @@Rollerbear712 missing out Unreconciled stars isn’t significant as you will be reintroduced in Inazuma. And Balladeer in that story serves little role ,only thing you know that he is a Harbinger. Mihoyo hands out quite a lot of copy of Fishcl in the past, so idk what stingy you are talking about. It is also not that hard to roll for Fishcl in banner.

    • @Rollerbear712
      @Rollerbear712 Год назад

      @@divinesan7786 "The stars are a lie" is first heard in this event. In Inazuma they act like they know Balladeer from before which is a little off. Still important as we know he'll be a recurring character. Mihoyo were stingy in handing out a copy of Fischl in that event. Some F2P and beginners weren't able to get her. Tbh the recent Golden Archipelago is important as that's the first time we hear Nahida and transitions well to "you're Kusanali aren't you?" in the main story later on, but I'll let that one slide as most of that event wasn't important.

  • @makoiyoshi
    @makoiyoshi Год назад +27

    I personally think there should be more ways to transfer regional items from other items, like say the sakura blooms. You could transfer some philanemo mushrooms and make them into sakura blooms using dust of azoth. Same thing with talent books, enemy drops, and world boss drops. Honestly, I started playing this game exactly a year ago, and I still feel I have missed so many events like the one with Albedo and the first Golden apple archipelago.

  • @purechi_
    @purechi_ Год назад +97

    As someone who's had an Ayaka since AR 10, (an account where i've just been collecting freemogems from updates etc) I was stuck on a 20/20 Ayaka until AR 30 to unlock Inazuma. It was horrible.

    • @gym4379
      @gym4379 Год назад +5

      Ayaka was my first 5 star in ar 20 it was pain indeed had to use razor to fight raiden 💀

    • @banditdoggo
      @banditdoggo Год назад +12

      You should have done her test run to get her to level 40. And the whole genshn story from mond to inazuma can be done in less than 30 days I've done it

    • @PikaCheeks
      @PikaCheeks Год назад +2

      AR 30 ain't so hard to get - I recently restarted out of boredem and casually been playing for 1 week (1-2 hours a session per 2 days) and got to AR 29 already and I still haven't finished the Liyue Archon Quests or even hard grinded the map yet. I'd say Sumeru characters would be an absolute nightmare to level up.

    • @d-coder-boy
      @d-coder-boy Год назад

      I did it in 5 days and now on day 7 i am ar40( considering i opened semeru on 3rd day without archon quest)

    • @arush.27
      @arush.27 Год назад

      same i got scara also but i cant even level them up

  • @pranayashrestha8752
    @pranayashrestha8752 Год назад +19

    The test run of the characters already give required materials to ascend the character once. I think they should give materials to ascend the character at least twice when Fontaine comes out.

  • @kT-AlQhtani
    @kT-AlQhtani Год назад +168

    I think this problem can be solved by the crafting table mechanics similarly like the weekly boss materials. By farming an early normal boss material and change it with that salt you could buy from paimon, its gonna solved it without any problems. Only downside I could see would be the crystals that you’ll suffer to farm or change it along the boss material.

    • @bo8411
      @bo8411 Год назад +4

      No.

    • @HashMyth
      @HashMyth Год назад +11

      That takes away the point of the game.
      Its progressing to build those new characters.
      If that's the case, why ever leave Mondstad or Liyue? 😏🤣
      It would be a very boring game if you could build anyone without even going to that characters area (and costly)

    • @GrudgeMatch5
      @GrudgeMatch5 Год назад +15

      Concern: New players wanting new characters but unable to ascend because they have not opened up their respective areas. The problem is that new players aren't informed of this and thus creating a negative experience when this happens to them.
      Solution: Create a hovering tool-tip on the banner itself which would tell players if they can play this character immediately or will have to wait until they have unlocked necessary areas. I don't know the details, but you get the gist. It would inform the player what it would take to ascend these characters and give them a choice if they still want to continue to pull for them or not. Something like that. That way, players aren't blindsided with the lack of information.

    • @adaxel7602
      @adaxel7602 Год назад +11

      @@HashMyth No it doesn’t. Literally the only people who would care are those strictly here for the character collection and leveling aspect and even then it’s not a bad idea.
      Limiting how many things you can trade at a time would be helpful, that way you can still level that character but also still progress the story if you want to level that character faster.
      Plus who cares anyways. There are so many damn characters and more to come, let people level their characters at the speed they wish.

    • @kT-AlQhtani
      @kT-AlQhtani Год назад

      @@bo8411 why-

  • @gojirabh9383
    @gojirabh9383 Год назад +160

    Personally, I'm honestly kinda jealous of new players. To be able to explore, discover and experience everything for the first time is such an amazing feeling that I wish I could have, again.

    • @jeronimomontalvo7587
      @jeronimomontalvo7587 Год назад +27

      That's when you read all the dialogs and pay attention to paimon and don't skip the cut scenes

    • @cosmicllama6910
      @cosmicllama6910 Год назад +35

      @@jeronimomontalvo7587 I wanted to keep reading all the dialogue because the writing is good, but they just have to insist on repeating themselves over and over or saying the same thing three different ways, that burned me out on reading the dialogue

    • @Ccubed92
      @Ccubed92 Год назад +2

      That's wierd lol it's so many games out here why would you want to feel like a new player again on one game

    • @JPhoenixLIVE
      @JPhoenixLIVE Год назад +2

      I just downloaded the mobile today and it is amazing af 😂😂

    • @MariusVerbavicius
      @MariusVerbavicius Год назад +1

      IMO just starting Sumeru. There is so much content that i think maybe it have been better just not play this game at all. Too much side quests and other stuff to do. Great I started 2.5 years ago, but 1month ago... Just too much.

  • @BadgerOff32
    @BadgerOff32 Год назад +97

    An idea that keeps being thrown around that could work quite well, is a 'travelling vendor' who sells "rare items from other lands".
    That way, if you pull someone like Raiden Shogun before you can get to Inazuma, you can buy some of the materials that drop from the Thunder Manifestation like Storm Beads that you'll need to ascend her.
    Even if you can buy a certain amount per week, or a certain amount in total, like the souvenir shop in Mondstadt. Even if they cost resin to buy (I think 15 resin each would be a fair price. 3 would cost 45 resin, 5 more than it would cost to fight the boss itself). As long as you're able to get a character up to level 50 or 60 without having to speed run through the game it would make a huge difference!

    • @mei_xiao6478
      @mei_xiao6478 Год назад +5

      That’s a good idea

    • @Josh-dr3hg
      @Josh-dr3hg Год назад +10

      hoyoverse pls hire this man

    • @goofballjim6167
      @goofballjim6167 Год назад

      At the rate we get materials with how you suggested it i rather just speed run/skip the story for the sake of being able to use the characters i want to use. Open up a spread sheet and mark where this specific character’s materials are

    • @LAM1895
      @LAM1895 Год назад

      The problem is it could lead to exploits. They would probably have to change the material so it can't be used after a certain level or make it so it can't be bought if you have access to Inazuma, so it wouldn't make fighting the boss useless.

  • @dejahapatterson3862
    @dejahapatterson3862 Год назад +13

    Just started playing about a month ago and I got Raiden. The farming and grind through the story and quests were serious to get her materials. The trial giving materials helped a little but still stuck at level 50 because of lack of Inuzuma play.

  • @sliverofsilver9683
    @sliverofsilver9683 Год назад +60

    I started in the last few weeks and it has taken me around 30 hours to get to inazuma, and I've done very little exploring. That could easily double in time if you want to explore everything. Depending on how much someone plays each week, it actually could be months till they get to sumeru.

    • @PiousMoltar
      @PiousMoltar Год назад +4

      It took me far longer than that to get to Inazuma. But Sumeru was no issue really. It's not locked behind AR30 like Inazuma is. And the Chasm is even worse, AR40. Sumeru is fine.

    • @generaltoszur1036
      @generaltoszur1036 Год назад +4

      Cant you just go to sumeru before inazuma

    • @laobozu549
      @laobozu549 Год назад +1

      It took me literal months (and I play regularly) to finish Inazuma's quests because I just didn't want to do it yet. Thankfully all the characters I was interested in happened to be liyue ones, because i think I would've forced myself otherwise, and it sure ruins the experience...

    • @sliverofsilver9683
      @sliverofsilver9683 Год назад +2

      @@generaltoszur1036 you can but you can't really do much because you're locked behind prerequisite quests and ar level, you can really just grab dendro traveller and not much else.

    • @plotaqiqi6545
      @plotaqiqi6545 Год назад +1

      30 h ??? imposable
      I smell skipping button

  • @emmalouise88
    @emmalouise88 Год назад +1

    I pulled for Raiden on my new account only because I already had Xiangling and I knew I could build her to at least C3 (with the upcoming free 4* and spiral abyss) whilst waiting to get to Inazuma but that's only because I knew the mechanics of the game and what would work best for me moving forward. If you're unaware, you're kinda screwed, unless you *really* want to grind and not everyone does...

  • @notyouraverageguy2265
    @notyouraverageguy2265 Год назад +34

    they will change either how ascension works or make the mats more accessible. they always do it especially in honkai impact 3

    • @QMS9224
      @QMS9224 Год назад +11

      They will probably add something similar to dream solvent but for mats, or a shop with a limited amount of "foreign" goods per week you could spend mora/resin or add to teapot

    • @goofballjim6167
      @goofballjim6167 Год назад

      If they do change the way ascension works they not only gotta leave the characters we own at their max level they also gotta refund all the ascension mats. If they do this we golden

  • @hoaryu
    @hoaryu Год назад +9

    Been playing for about a month and I'm just now FINALLY able to start uncapping Kuki and she was one of the first characters I got. It's actually insane that there's no way to buy or craft ascend mats for some of these characters.

  • @Spbm10
    @Spbm10 Год назад +33

    A simple solution implemented in many games is making new content temporarily avaiable for the duration of the patch for everyone. You will break the flow of the story and all, but you aren't forced to do it anyway, if you really just wanna access the areas and raise your new characters regardless of region, you can, then it gets locked behind story progress again next update and so on

  • @warewareno
    @warewareno Год назад +8

    I think this is something that’s only a problem for Inazuma characters. Sumeru’s introduction is the dawn of them no longer gating character leveling, which actually creates other problems.
    The problems it creates all revolve around late game players, so no one will care… until/or if they reach late game. Hoyo doesn’t care because they make their money from new players mostly.

    • @asri1361
      @asri1361 Год назад

      I think ur forgetting Chasm and enkanomiya

    • @warewareno
      @warewareno Год назад +1

      @@asri1361 enkanomiya is Inazuma. I don’t even think the requirements for the Chasm underground requires Inazuma progression

    • @warewareno
      @warewareno Год назад

      @@asri1361 I mean, I guess. If thats the case though, one could say that you have to play for hours to get to the first boss (Davalin) that drops talent materials and weeks to complete leveling them.
      Like, at some point there has to be progression

  • @Gigga9
    @Gigga9 Год назад +31

    Imagine how it will be in another 2 years

    • @xdtheo284
      @xdtheo284 Год назад +9

      The game will be dead by then fingers crossed

    • @huyphamle159
      @huyphamle159 Год назад +2

      After we reach Celestia, the Genshin era will be over soon and the new chapter outside of Teyvat begin

    • @The_Lightless
      @The_Lightless Год назад +2

      @@xdtheo284do you really think so?

    • @xdtheo284
      @xdtheo284 Год назад +5

      @@The_Lightless newbies will quit. Veterans Will quit. Due to boredom

    • @Kam1_9
      @Kam1_9 Год назад +2

      @@xdtheo284 but new players will still come

  • @ardee9337
    @ardee9337 Год назад +1

    Imagine if you were a new player in the time that Snezhnaya just released and the banner is for the Cryo Archon herself lmao, it would take months before you could even get to use her properly if Hoyo doesn't change anything.

  • @phatpat63
    @phatpat63 Год назад +62

    As someone who started playing a few months ago, I can confirm that this is very spot on with my experience. Especially with my characters being underbuilt for my AR. When I went to start farming artifacts it was extremely difficult to complete the domains, and I would often run out of time or die. You have a big advantage over a new player in that you already know how to build your characters, who will work with who, and the general layout of the plot. After Liyue, just to unlock Inazuma, I had to spend over a week untangling a knot of all the quest that had been locked because they used the same npc, and because there's just so many random side quests that you have to do at that point before Beidou will let you ride her damn boat. And if you're having a hard time with one of those quest because your build or team comp is a little scuffed, well to bad for you.
    Another thing that I never see talked about is 4 star constellations. If you started around launch, or heck, even 2.0, not only have you had a lot more time to build up your account, but your pulls were also concentrated on a smaller roster of characters. I've got most of the Sumeru and Inazuma 4 stars, and maybe half of those have a constellation or two, but if I could take all those pulls and concentrate them into just half the number of four stars I would have a much stronger roster than I do now with the exact same time investment.

    • @akagamidwaterlaw7347
      @akagamidwaterlaw7347 Год назад +2

      Isn't that something which should go both ways? Imagine this - how can we expect for everything to be fair between a veteran player who has been supporting the game since the very beginning and a new player who just started the game on a whim as he saw a hot character that he liked but ended up liking the game overall( me) to have the same advantage as that of a veteran gamer. Would'nt the veteran gamer feel the same thing like why they spent so much time on the game if they cudve achieved the same thing just by starting the game few weeks back?
      PS: I started at the end of 3.0

    • @hachikuji_mayoi
      @hachikuji_mayoi Год назад +1

      you don't have to do the side quests at beidou's ship actually. She stands on the boat and you can just talk to her immediately.

    • @phatpat63
      @phatpat63 Год назад +6

      @@akagamidwaterlaw7347 No, it's not an issue of fairness at all. Obviously, you're never going to be able to build up to the same point with vastly less time put in. It's a question of how playable the game is now for a new player vs how playable it _was_ for a veteran player when they were at the same point.
      Someone starting the game today could stop in Liyue and just do dailys for 6 months to build up their account before moving on to Inazuma and the fact remains that their 4 stars would be significantly less powerful on average than a veteran player would have had at the same point in the game with the exact same time investment. (And that's not to mention that the particular 4 stars that a 1.0 player would have had would be characters like Bennett, Xangling, Fischal, Sucrose, Blue Venti, etc.) A new player is likely to have more of the characters like Sara, Garou, Faru, Dori, and so on, and with fewer constellations.
      When you're at that point where you're just starting to reach a high AR, and you don't have many 5 stars, that makes a huge difference for clearing content and farming domains.
      (edited typo)

    • @phatpat63
      @phatpat63 Год назад

      @@hachikuji_mayoi I'm talking about all the side quest you have to do to even get to that point. You have to do the tournament where you first meet Kazuha first. And you have to do the rebuilding the Jade Chamber quest before you can do that. And you have to do the Fishing for Jade quest before you do _that_, and that's a world quest you have to get from a random npc in Liyue. And there are several world quests that if you've accepted, bit not completed, will lock out the above quests because they involve the same npcs.

    • @dengaku12
      @dengaku12 Год назад +3

      Not being able to do a quest cuz an npc is involved in another quest is one of the most annoying things lol

  • @Kunoichi4ever4
    @Kunoichi4ever4 Год назад +1

    Yeah I started a year ago and already ran into that problem. My first character was Ayato and second Ayaka, I think I got Ayato when I just unlocked Inazuma so I thought great this shouldn t take too long...but realistically it took me forever to level both. As even exploring Inazuma took a while to unlock the required bossess, to unlock Raiden Shogun story quest (for that to make sense you have to finish archo quests) and finish it(Ayato s talent boss material)... Honestly it left me with a bit of too much grind that I almost did not even enjoy anymore. Since than I almost never pull for new characters and rather focus on reruns coz I dont wanna repeat the grind of those months. I dont wanna be forced to complete story quests adn archon quests just so I can build my character.

  • @azeem1597
    @azeem1597 Год назад +15

    This was me back when I started playing when first Raiden rerun came out with Kokomi. I was so excited that I pulled her but when it came to leveling her up all the excitement went away lol.

  • @MinecraftManiacs1to3
    @MinecraftManiacs1to3 Год назад +30

    I think a neat solution for this would either be regional rotations for characters (Monstadt banner, Liyue banner, etc.) or a "you completed this archon quest, now you get a banner to roll on for a week" banner.

  • @panserbeorn
    @panserbeorn Год назад +9

    They need a temporary domain where new players could get into to get materials which would be available to them as long as the banner is up. My little niece started playing and got Cyno, Tighnari, Wanderer and some Inazuma characters and they are all stuck at Level 20 I feel sad for her.

  • @garchume6690
    @garchume6690 Год назад +2

    this game's success despite its lacklustre content just shows that in terms of characters they got the community by the balls .. people have spend so much time and or money getting and upgrading them despite the fact there is nothing to do with those max out 5 stars , i for one would invest alot more time and maybe even resources if i could log into to genshin talk to people on my friends list and go beat mission together and talk about team comps and stuff,. dafuq do i look like farming primos half a year or spend over 150 euros to have 80 summon or whatever it is just so i can once amonth do the abyss ,the only end game or 10 min aday doing dailies and lets be honest no one does abyss for fun its to get the primos u need and keep it moving .. its a shame its such a miss i feel cuz the character part is awesome everything else is just pointless waste of time.. new region comes out u quickly knock out all the quest cuz they dont challenge ur mechanical skill neither do they test ur intellectual strenght nor do they touch u on a emotional level and if it does u are simply easily impressed cuz ive been gaming for 2 decades now and can safely say with no bias this aint nothing special in any sense of the word and so u just skip dialog to not waste time ..all they test is ur patience to not fall asleep as the endless waves of texts keep bombarding u. i dont mind reading alot but i do mind reading alot of shit pointless talk which is all this game has the dialog is so bland and basic one wonders why even bother . new region does not count as content cuz its masquerades itself as such but its just a different version of the shit u already know, the reality is its just to make us look away from the issue sure its pretty to walk around a place u havent being before and see chest beating enemies with ur overpowered max out charecters aint even a challenge its simply pass time.. games can do it all in terms of art yet nowadays its just to pass time. after u take a stroll around the new region and collected the chests for their primos u have nothing else to do but dailies and wait for content , the cycle repeats itself.
    if they just use a tiny bit of the billions theyy made with banners to give us some content to keep coming back to it with proper co op experience that allows for a actual play session other than 10 min of pointless daily commission a new born baby could do it if u hand them a keyboard and mouse. heck add modding in the game and let pc guys do it for them some of the most fun i ever had gaming was playying modes with people that other people made. whales cant even brag about their things either yh its dope u have all the character r5 c6 max out but what do u do with them ?: if anything its like shooting yourself in the foot cuz now u have these max out characters that can one shot everything and so the result is that u knock out the little content u can do every day even quicker and can spend even less time playing.,, its like that meme where the guy uses a he-man sword to cuts his toast bread or the rich kid that convince his parrents to buy a fully customized over 5k gaming pc with the best specs to play .. minecraft... idk on and on its such a miss cuz other games are full or content that is arguably not the best but u can atleast always play always chase after something but they are usually severely lacking in proper characters that people genuinely like. if players invest so much when the game is this dead then imagine if it was full of life and content.. but iguess thats why im not a developer in our day and age my plan dont involve f-ing people in the anus whilst takiung there money and laughing at them cuz apparently thats the only thing devs do nowadays. i for one wont keep applauding mediocrity and i feel like people forgot how to use their voice cuz it matters, ppl now just seem to chose between the lesser evil.. all games suck and are designed to screw u and ppl seem to have accepted that and just choose one they like for what it is not for what it could be. its better than sitting in a room starring at a wall am i right.. at this point gaming as a art form is so far from what it could be that the change required to reverse the dmg the last 10 yrs did to gaming may be too much to heal. and ppl wont fight with their wallets anymore in fact they encourage this sort of trash by buying things like living in a pile of shit instead of leaving for a better tommorw a better game they buy blankets and decoration so the shit atleast looks pretty so devs wont care either cuz money is being made so i see no end to this shit..

  • @basedarsonist
    @basedarsonist Год назад +5

    Old players lacking content: "Hoyoverse don't care about us!"
    New players having a lot of content:
    "I feel bad for new players!"
    There's just nothing right for some people..

    • @Katetengen
      @Katetengen Год назад

      Except these are real issues in the game…? God forbid we bring them to light.

  • @EvilNickz
    @EvilNickz Год назад +6

    I agree completely. What should be done is add a system similar to Fate’s clear prisms. As you progress organically through the game you’ll obtain a special material that allows you to gain access to later ascension materials that you might not have otherwise. This takes a lot of stress off new players having to rush through story just to be able to use their beloved characters.

  • @reddragonminecraftmodsandm4366
    @reddragonminecraftmodsandm4366 Год назад +20

    As someone who started about a month ago, this is an issue. (I wanted to use Kuki Shinobu after I pulled her but couldn’t ascend her) but it’s really not too bad. I definitely love having so much open world still completely unexplored. I like using characters I know that could feasibly be alongside the traveler anyway.
    I think as long as you don’t take Genshin to seriously and play to enjoy the story, you can jump in at any time and have a lot of fun with the world

    • @MayW15663
      @MayW15663 Год назад +2

      It’s not too bad now, but imagine when we’re 7 regions in and a new player gets a bunch of characters from the newest regions.

    • @hachikuji_mayoi
      @hachikuji_mayoi Год назад +1

      @@MayW15663 you can walk to most of them, only inazuma is locked but the rest are part of the mainland

    • @Gennosuke1983
      @Gennosuke1983 Год назад +1

      You can ascend her with the trial items to 40, that's more than enough to last you until Inazuma. Usually people are level 50-60 by the time they reach Inazuma, not a huge difference.
      Now, if Kuki is not feature on the banner and you get her randomly from Standard, then tough luck. The reason they give away the materials in the Trial is exactly for this scenario, when people intentionally pull for the 5star or the featured 4 stars. They can use them just fine at level 40 until they reach the required nation

    • @Gennosuke1983
      @Gennosuke1983 Год назад +1

      @@MayW15663 Only Inazuma is locked behind Archon Story so far. You can literally pull Nahida and walk into Sumeru and pick up flowers or beat elite bosses if you want to. Since your AR is super low, the enemies will also be low, so there's no issue

    • @sweetbabyrayso5262
      @sweetbabyrayso5262 Год назад

      @@Gennosuke1983 thats only if they dont lock stuff behind archon quests again which they will probably do

  • @woshiyizhimao
    @woshiyizhimao Год назад +5

    This is exactly me right now. Just started about 3 weeks ago. AR24, and just started watching videos. Getting massive anxiety trying to pick players to use and I feel like I have to level up new characters to see if they can help or not, but end up wasting materials then.

  • @neki7895
    @neki7895 Год назад +47

    Not sure how possible this is, but I guess this issue could be solved by having banners for each region EVERY version. So for example, 4 banners running at the same time with maybe Eula, Xiao, Yoimiya and Nahida. That way no matter where you are in the main story, there’s always someone usable to pull for and maybe even shortens time in between reruns.

    • @The_Lightless
      @The_Lightless Год назад +7

      They will never do this because it kills hype for characters. Running 4 banners all the time would defeat the purpose of characters being locked behind limited time only banners. That’s how they make their money

    • @phatpat63
      @phatpat63 Год назад +5

      I think regional banners is the way to go. They could be unlocked at the same time you unlock that region, and you could focus on a particular banner to build up your 4 stars faster if you wanted.

    • @patriotsfan122480
      @patriotsfan122480 Год назад +2

      This may happen when we’re closer to the end of the overall story, but doubt it will happen anytime soon. I agree with Mtashed that they should have some type of transfer system to make it easier. They did it with the billets for the Sumeru weapons, they should do them for the upgrade materials for characters. And then maybe take certain levels of it away as you unlock the new regions, if they’re concerned about something like players fighting Dvalin and then transferring the materials for Sumeru or something.

    • @uribove
      @uribove Год назад +3

      @@The_Lightless they already have 4 banners per patch,, so they could split it 2/2 being Mondt/Ina in the first half and Liy/Sum in the second half. They have plenty of characters to do it with since they most often release 1 new five star per patch,, so that could always fill the slot for the newest region

    • @luuk7daan
      @luuk7daan Год назад +1

      Except that that doesn't work for new players who specifically start Genshin because of a new character. Sure, one or two of those can be leveled, but there is a very real possibility that they don't want to pull for a 5 star just because that one can be leveled.

  • @furyadia546
    @furyadia546 Год назад +2

    Im ar 57 and until now i main kayea as main dps :b.

  • @MrDekasOne
    @MrDekasOne Год назад +4

    Yeah the community has seen this becoming a problem since inazuma released

  • @AlcheonArt
    @AlcheonArt Год назад +1

    I WISH i had this problem. I actually AM a new player (2-3 weeks), but my biggest frustration is that i found out about Raiden Shogun, and that i started playing this game TWO DAYS after her banner expired and she won't come back for a year.....

  • @KingofBlah37
    @KingofBlah37 Год назад +8

    Hell, I started in 2.0 and ran into that with Ayaka. Had to bench her for a week or two until I could get to Inazuma, and then it still took a while to get her caught up to wherever my other used characters were at the time. It's just going to get worse and worse as time goes on.
    They need to add a vendor in Mondstadt that sells ascension/talent materials from the other regions. Make it a bit more expensive than if you were to get those materials naturally, say 20 resin plus 20K mora for a batch of books just like if your were to go to a domain.
    Or have them trade with you. Have it cost mora and something else, on top of whatever you're trading in. Dust of Azoth can stay the way it is, because the 'cost' is that you spent your primos to wish and get stardust.
    Something. Anything, really.

    • @jeronimomontalvo7587
      @jeronimomontalvo7587 Год назад

      Same , but c6 rosaria helped a lot then i had to start a new account just to get kuki shinobu and run to the chasm for that annoying serpent

  • @GwyndolinSimp
    @GwyndolinSimp Год назад +1

    Lmao I started playing past october.
    First 5star: Raiden
    Banner 4stars: Rosaria , Sayu, Sara. Got the 3 and c3 for Sara
    Extra: Gorou
    Yeah, I couldn't use Raiden or Inazuma characters in 3 months.

  • @melcobie
    @melcobie Год назад +7

    feel you.
    i think one of the major improvement is that the quest is not AR gated.
    and also the skip button is so useful for players not to get burnt up by the never ending discussion of the quests

    • @hermitgreenn
      @hermitgreenn Год назад

      Which quest? A ton of quests, the archon quest in particular are AR gated.

  • @aviezer_who_drinks_seltzer371
    @aviezer_who_drinks_seltzer371 Год назад +2

    Um... I don't view this as an issue. It's a f2p game. I came from wizard101 where it took a week or more to unlock an area (2-4 hr quest time total)
    I don't mind the quests & I have almost all the teleport points unlocked. The work is what makes the game fun for me.

    • @mlg4lyf
      @mlg4lyf Год назад +2

      tbh if you can endure that wizard101 grind you're a different type of breed, the genshin grind is nothing to that, it's just that eventually genshin gets boring with repetition but some sections of the story are actually pretty fun

    • @aviezer_who_drinks_seltzer371
      @aviezer_who_drinks_seltzer371 Год назад +1

      @@mlg4lyf yeah I got sick of wiz grind, idk if I'm gonna come back to that
      I love genshin being f2p though, and it's much less repetitive than wiz overall- plus their lore is way more thought out and there's so much to do that I never get bored

  • @404veno
    @404veno Год назад +4

    There is a special ascension tab in Fate Grand Order the mobile game where nee player can ascend the new characters for free till lvl 80/90 but it can only be one character. A feature like that will definitely help.

  • @ho1y_9uacamo1e
    @ho1y_9uacamo1e Год назад +1

    The way I got my Ayato fluorescent fungus is I had a friend I had introduced to Genshin, and they played more than me so they got to inazuma before me even though I played months longer than they had. I did co-op with them in their world but first they had to do a quest chain to even unlock the island. Then the dang mushrooms were so hard to find and currently my ayato is stuck at 50 (however I have inazuma now but keep getting distracted and forgetting to do archon quests which ima do now goodbye youtube)

  • @joshzeebee123
    @joshzeebee123 Год назад +7

    I've thought this since early days of Genshin and I've always wanted an NPC kind of like Liben that comes round once a week with 2 lots of 3 random boss materials. May not be for the character you get but least it saves feeling crazy pressure to play the character you got.

    • @goofballjim6167
      @goofballjim6167 Год назад +2

      Fuck randomized boss materials, just let me get what i want from the trader. We already suffer through getting the perfect Artifacts why do people like torturing themselves by adding more RnG???

  • @chibbyhobby608
    @chibbyhobby608 Год назад +36

    I think the point of the game is for us not to be able to speedrun it… and I think the best part of it being daunting is that if you’re a newbie, then you literally have an endless process to go through, plus the fact that the game is still progressing. I think what GI can do is to have a trade system where they can buy or trade their materials to the ones they need so they could shorten the period of maxing out a 5 star character they wished for. (I’m also curious about the animé they’re doing)

    • @kuro.editzzz
      @kuro.editzzz Год назад +4

      Yeah some kind of trading system would be amazing. I was thinking of making a fresh account but kinda hesitating because I know I won't be able to use certain characters without progressing through the story again

    • @shion551
      @shion551 Год назад

      Trade system? Just join games and ask nicely if you can pick some flowers or fish

    • @kuro.editzzz
      @kuro.editzzz Год назад

      @@shion551 true. Although I remember trying to join for some dandelions. More than half of the ppl in co op declined to let me join :/

  • @aluget7940
    @aluget7940 Год назад +5

    I've been playing for around 3 months, and I agree with what you are saying about being a bit overwhelming. Realistically could ascend to over AR level 45 but my characters just aren't strong enough yet because I still have heaps of farming to do. So far, the main ones I use are level 60 but I'm grinding to get a few of them to level 70 before I ascend.

  • @racool911
    @racool911 Год назад +1

    Hmm, I'm starting to wonder if this is actually a good thing. Certainly makes the game harder, and finally getting the characters leveled up feels so much more rewarding. Trekking through the map and not being able to destroy every enemy sounds interesting as hell.

  • @vagelistsirogiannis1799
    @vagelistsirogiannis1799 Год назад +4

    Agreed and this problem will be bigger over time. Imagine Natlan for example, not even talking about Fontaine. It really sucks

  • @GhostlyGenshinGuides
    @GhostlyGenshinGuides Год назад +1

    You can just do the trial and it gives you everything you need to get them to lvl 40. Which is good enough for a while. Also it’s literally just inazuma because it’s not connected to the mainland.
    And oh no, you have to play the game and can’t sprint to the end!

  • @bsid3549
    @bsid3549 Год назад +4

    I started playing Genshin since like the 3th of January and I can say it's so fun and I got a lot of progress so far although it's enough, so I'll have to keep it going, like rn I'm AR31+, and yea I was only able to do this thanks to your tips broo, and this video also just helped me to learn something new, and please keep making more of this guides.
    Thank you 👊

  • @gemcomposer
    @gemcomposer Год назад +1

    This is an ignorant question as this is the only gacha game I play, but what will happen once the game is finished? All the regions are out, all the story has been finished: how will people play the game once all the events are gone? Or does the game keep going forever and ever?
    Also, why would you want to play the game first just to level up a character that you want to play in order to play the game? It makes no sense! 🤣

  • @Paragon..
    @Paragon.. Год назад +8

    I started a year ago, just playing casually with the default Lumine, Lisa, Amber and Barbara (all leveling materials found in Mondstat) got me through everything. I only started working on other characters last month because I farmed a good amount of items over the time.
    My advice to new players is, work on the default characters to get through the main story, open the whole map, catch up to latest content. I found the best time to level characters is when you complete everything and are just waiting for the next update. My main team I switched to a few weeks ago is Ei, Nahida, Yanfei and Mona from 4 respective regions. By the time I wanted a real damaging team I at least had hoarded enough resources to level them up a bit, took me 2 weeks to get 4 characters geared and leveled, could have been faster but I am casual.

    • @飛び猫
      @飛び猫 Год назад +1

      Terrible advice, the reason a lot of people play is for the characters they like, why would you ever say "hey yeah so if you wanna play with the character you like just farm for these four default character that you might not care about."

  • @SolidShepard
    @SolidShepard Год назад +1

    I hate locking leveling up behind not only ascensions, but also adventure ranks. Like why? Who thought that was a good idea in an rpg?

  • @genericname1622
    @genericname1622 Год назад +3

    My friends and I are talking about this exactly. Maybe they should include more in the character trial. Enough mats to maybe boost the character to level 30~40 which I think should be enough though there's also talent materials.

  • @gossche9945
    @gossche9945 Год назад +1

    Gosh!!! This is so true. New player here.. been three weeks. i've got nahida from wishes but WHAT THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO DO?? I'm not strong enough to go to sumeru. This is crazy. Luckily i have a friend who already lv 90. He literally carrying me and help me farming for material. I can't beat a single hypotases/regisvyne without his help.

  • @FlyingPolie
    @FlyingPolie Год назад +1

    The Fact that I have an account with Raiden Shogun at AR16. Sucks so bad HAHAHAHAHHA She remains at 20, whil all team goes 50. If there's some feature i want to happened that could be the "Adventure Rank Required Pulls" where you can't pull the character unless you unlock already the region or the AR you need in order to get the character's materials and such. Or, probably a Shop where you can buy a material on specific place. For example, buying ascension materials for Raiden Shogun at Mondstadt at AR16. This way you can fulfill the Character Ascension and at the same time maximizing the full potential for new players.

  • @ashenone8909
    @ashenone8909 Год назад +17

    That’s quite a valid concern. One minor solution they put out is probably the limited time events, which give you weapon and talent materials. But boss materials and artifacts are still gated by progression and sometimes even main quests

    • @marlonyo
      @marlonyo Год назад

      Has there been a event that gave inazuma material without being in inazuma?

  • @esmondgoh3112
    @esmondgoh3112 Год назад +1

    I started a few years before .. but I dropped it cuz of storage problem.
    Since HSR is still new, there's very few content.. so I'm thinking to get back into Genshin Impact
    However.. I have no idea anything in these 2 games work😂 so I just wing it.
    So.. if I want Kazuha, what AR do I have to be? If I'm not mistaken, I think I reached AR 15 or something.

  • @Grom8P
    @Grom8P Год назад +3

    It took me 5 or 6 weeks to get to Inzauma after starting in late October last year. I did a lot of exploring and about half the world quests of each region so far. Getting Raiden was the goal and I ended up getting her. With more regions coming out in the next few years... new players will be overwhelmed for sure. It can be easy to burn out on games like this, almost happened to me.

  • @mabellady
    @mabellady Год назад +1

    i understand not using coop bc of being fished or smth, doesnt mean ppl dont coop, or ppl dont quit for a while, they can ask help from other players.. i myself have helped many other players and got their acc workable. AND IG U FORGOT UR PREVIOUS VIDEOS, of ur guides and all. to how to be stronger in early acc? how to utilise? how come u forgot ur own videos like that

  • @Yiyithaa
    @Yiyithaa Год назад +12

    I think Genshin in a way is special this way because the story is progressive, like a real journey. So it makes sense that the characters you get along the way also are. New players ofc would be recommended to pull for the rerun character instead of the newer one.

    • @lukivan8
      @lukivan8 Год назад +2

      When I got heizou at AR10 I wanted to use him. And then I was stuck with lvl40 heizou before I got to Inazuma.And it sucks

    • @Stanzbey69
      @Stanzbey69 Год назад +2

      Genshin player try not to overdose on copium challenge (impossible)

    • @shotsfrom9180
      @shotsfrom9180 Год назад +1

      So basically pull for something you dont like until you get to the area to play what you do like...? That's a terrible idea lmao

    • @oopsydaizy
      @oopsydaizy Год назад +1

      No it’s not tbh. When I began, I got many copies of heizou after pulling only 30. I genuinely could not level him at all until completing chasm, but I couldn’t complete chasm because my characters were bad. So I had him on lvl 50 for like two months until I got to ruin serpent and when I got there he wasn’t even useful anymore 🫤

  • @ryankimbell8762
    @ryankimbell8762 Год назад +1

    Unfortunately, these gatcha games aren't designed to be around for decades, like mmorpgs. They generate hype and players for 2-3 years, peak (some time around Sumeru/Fontaine for Genshin), then ride that invested/addicted veteran base for 2-3 more years. By the end of Snezhnaya, the dev team will be down to 3 guys, as Hoyo shifts focus to other games.
    It's harsh to say, but they're basically peak-efficiency pump-and-dumps.

  • @violetevergarden5160
    @violetevergarden5160 Год назад +9

    I started playing before this was a problem. But i kinda like the idea of materials being locked to a far away region. It adds a sense off achivment and challange to get there. Makes them feel like they are trully from there. Idk i just kinda like the idea of having a charather laying around that suddenly unlocks with a region. Also makes people use the starter characters more.

    • @KuroTheDesigner
      @KuroTheDesigner Год назад +1

      i see your point and i agree to an extent, there's defs something to be said about having characters in your back pocket that later on you're like "oh i can use him now? Cool" it can double as a nice surprise and as a goal to work towards, the problem with this though, is that it only works if the game gives you other things to play around with in the mean time. Depending on your luck in pulls you might get a bunch of characters who all cant be used early game and get bored quickly, OR you might get 1 or 2 that you cant use early game, then a few that you can use in the mean time.
      If you ask me i think its part of hoyo's system to get peeps to spend, cuz if you have battle pass and welkin, your influx of characters is gonna be much faster thus you'd have more shit to play around with while the late game characters sit on the bench for later

    • @goofballjim6167
      @goofballjim6167 Год назад +1

      @@KuroTheDesigner delaying the ability to use a character because it’s materials to upgrade are in a different region is dumb.
      I suffered through the 50/50 of getting/not getting them let me use them right now, let me trade items to get their materials. It is why i don’t recommend Fate Grand Order to people, not only bcuz it is dated, but because some Servants need materials from Part 2 chapter 5 to upgrade past their first ascension.

    • @benja9029
      @benja9029 Год назад

      @@goofballjim6167 tbf fgo now gives daily tickets to exchange for materials that you have no access to(though the 3 options rotate per month) plus events shops also provide a ton of them and there's this new white mana prism thing you get each time you clear a story quest that you can exchange for any existing materials in the current patch so yeah. If a newbie fgo player pulled a lost belt 5 character they would be able to max ascend that character after chapter 3 since they'll have enough white prism thingys to exchange for the mats 👍

  • @FosFate
    @FosFate Год назад +1

    That's such a non existent point lol.
    Leveling up your stuff and farming things is the last thing on your mind when you start the game anyway.
    I started around the time Inazuma Archon Quest was completed...it must be 2.4
    I didn't read/watch any guided until I was done with Archon quests. I simply didn't need them.
    I had no idea how the game worked
    All on my mind was exploring that big mountain and doing the story.
    I didn't think of level until I got stomped by the unwinnable Raiden fight. By that time I had unlocked almost the entire map, minus Watatsumi.
    I had 3-4 friends who played it, and they told me to save Primogems and rainbow fates. I did that until 2.6 (Xiao), by that time I had entire map, AR40, had most domains unlocked, which I could complete by just "Matching."
    The farming problems exist for alts. Who just want a new character and can't farm for them soon enough.
    Yes, it takes longer to get the entire map unlocked now, and yes it'll take longer when Fontaine, or Natlan are released. But it'll not be a problem as long as players do what the game is for, the main story.
    And game holds your hand for all major Archon fights, so there's no brick wall you're hitting, except AR requirement, which takes many minutes to a few hours to fulfil.

  • @hurricaneb6243
    @hurricaneb6243 Год назад +5

    If you're a new player, don't worry about building your characters. Unless you're building for the sake of building, you can beat the current overworld, all the way to Sumeru even with level one characters. Even if you're f2p, and you decide to dropany character that reaches level 2 characters, it has been done. So no, your characters being stuck at level 20 for awhile will not make the game unplayable.

  • @pivotable8588
    @pivotable8588 Год назад +2

    I mean, I started my account about 4 months ago, and I really dig that there's so much content. The fact that I am able to not only farm the daily's, the abyss, the events, but I have an incredibly large backlog of archon/world/story/hangout quests that give really good primogem rewards is awesome. I just unlocked Thunder Manifestation, haven't barely touched Sumeru, and I'm AR55, with multiple lvl90 teams.
    I think the size and scale of the game is a big PLUS - because it's basically free (I will say, I do purchase BP and I've done a few Welkins). But I'm incredibly impressed and thrilled with the pace that Hoyo churns out good content, and I feel like their incentives are good (something like 15-20k primos in this next patch?) It's definitely a grind, but I'm a Destiny veteran (still playing that one too), so grind is what I'm looking for in a game, and this one is top-notch.

  • @hepotri8719
    @hepotri8719 Год назад +5

    Sure, I can pretty relate to the struggles. I just started like one and half months ago, it's pretty hard to catch up the event and characters. But, LUCKILY, MY FIRST 5 STAR IS KEQING, which I don't really need to farming lots to ascend her. Although I kinda want to got another character who I like more (nahida, ayato, raiden, kokomi), but Keqing as my first 5 star is pretty good as I don't really need to actually go Inazuma first.

  • @Yoru-desu13
    @Yoru-desu13 Год назад +1

    Yeah I started in 3.0 and got Kokomi. Couldn't get anything upgraded for a long ass time. Luckily, she's not a DPS but it still took forever before I got to Inazuma.
    At least Sumeru you can get to right away, but you're not getting those weekly boss mats through story (Scara).

  • @ihatesmurfs84
    @ihatesmurfs84 Год назад +1

    Just started playing last week, And this is tf whats happening to me. Its overwhelming idk where to start and what to do first, Im currently AR 29,I just started second archon quest, Idk if im doing it right lol😅. Hopefully I sort it out,

  • @mypeey1382
    @mypeey1382 Год назад +1

    I start playing genshin from december 2022 and i am ar 55 rn. i didn't even realized how much thing i've been through. What matter is when you enjoy the game, it'll feel a lot easier.. even though i only have 3 5 stars for now, this game aren't actually that hard to play (well for me). I quiet enjoy the story and everything about this game, and Sorry my english kinda suck

  • @RohanSinghal-ob7zu
    @RohanSinghal-ob7zu Год назад +1

    That's literally what I am suffering
    I have just started playing GE 25-30 days ago
    I tried my luck on Raiden banner and got her but I was so sad that I can't use her because her ascertion material in only available in Inazuma
    The mostly all good characters I have are only from Inazuma or Sumeru

  • @abhi0774
    @abhi0774 Год назад +1

    I am also new and I am Free2Play.
    My AR 20 now and my fav character Bennett 😍
    Also sometimes some random pro join me and help me in difficult quest😀🙂

  • @Juju-hn7qo
    @Juju-hn7qo 11 месяцев назад +1

    Adding the begginner struggle being F2P adds on top of that struggle.Most guides for a quest require a five star character im AR 30,and traces of the abyss is too hard for no reason to the point were i have to lower my world level to do a quest that i should be able to do.thats way to unnecessary.primo gem grind is alreafy complicated.just to get 1 charecteyou have to save up for months for a single charecter and if you lose your 50/50 then months wasted to where you badicaly just have quit or repeat for months again.

  • @kuroikanzou
    @kuroikanzou Год назад +1

    The thing that bothers me more than the fact this is an issue.. is that they never thought this through to begin with? To me it just screams shitty game design. They never planned this out, didn’t care, or have no idea what they’re doing. It’s not the first time I’ve wondered if they just have no idea how to make a game that’s not a shitty gacha money grab.
    One idea I just thought of is they could remove the requirement to be the same world level or higher to join someone else’s world. That way you could at LEAST join a friend’s world and get help getting the materials you need from a friend. It would also encourage more co-op play, which I personally almost never do. It could also potentially give veteran players something to do when they’re bored.. by helping the newbie players get things they need?
    Idk, just an idea. I feel like there are several things they could do to remedy this but they’re just.. choosing.. not to? 😐

  • @aurondoxon3805
    @aurondoxon3805 Год назад +1

    The most annoying thing is the "first complete the prerequisite quest" BS throughout the main story. You literally have to do minor side quests just because a certain npc or character is busy with another quest. Main quest should just flow smoothly without the constant interruptions.

  • @darkerdaemon7794
    @darkerdaemon7794 Год назад +1

    I just started about two months ago and my first and second five stars was Mona and Shenhe respectively. I can't even use Shenhe because of her ascension materials being locked and that's also the case for three other of my characters. Faruzan, Shinobi, and Sara, all three need sumeru and inazuma items to ascend so I'm stuck having to waste materials on characters I'm not even going to use long term because I can't use the characters I want to use.

  • @literallyjesus7232
    @literallyjesus7232 Год назад +1

    I've told this story multiple times but one of my friends who is a new player pulled itto but guess what? No Inazuma? No itto above lvl 20

  • @ajtame
    @ajtame Год назад +1

    Im new and I absolutely love the game, so much to do, its super fun, I have played for hours and hours and the game has never ever stopped me. However I just hit the point that resin (or lack of) is stopping me from playing and that is starting to suck. I do see what you mean about 5*s and not being able to use them, I was in the 2nd area and pulled tighnari and i cant even fight the boss i need to level him up

  • @gemodemplay415
    @gemodemplay415 Год назад +1

    When I started playing I azuma was released and I got the little girl that spins and moves fast on the map, but I could not ascend her. That is when I stopped playing the game. Never touched it ever since but I continued to watch your videos cuz they are fun.

  • @kunjanpatel367
    @kunjanpatel367 Год назад +1

    Dubble drum 🥁
    When nothing to do - complain
    When too much to do - complain
    You know what and whom I'm talking about

  • @CometYouTube
    @CometYouTube Год назад +1

    if ur a starting player in 2023, i suggest u jus buy a starter account; specifically a reroll starter account with 100% exploration, that way you will have tons of resources to start, I got C6 R5 yelan because of the account i bought from player auctions, its an op character that almost destroys everything in freeroam bosses except water slimes but yeah spending 50$ for a 750+ draws account is def worth the buck!

    • @dinooz1394
      @dinooz1394 Год назад

      Personally i payed 40 euros for an AR10 account with C0 Yelan, Kazuha, Raiden Shogun, Nahida and Nahida's signature weapon.
      Never having played genshin before i had no clue i wouldn't be able to level some of them up but honestly is not an issue, it took me a week to get to Inazuma but i had tons of fun explorinng the world and doing the story and quests to get to Ar30, got there with lvl40 Yelan and the rest at lvl20.
      I def agree with buying an account being the best way to start but i don't agree with buying a fully explored account.
      Mine was AR 10 with 0 exploration done when i bought it which means it allowed me to start the game with 4 limited 5 stars i like, a signature 5 star weapon and still experience the full game, story, world AND MORE IMPROTANTLY all of the ressourced available so no primogems wasted.
      You can get a new AR10 account with 0 exploration with 1 limited 5 star character and his or her signature weapon for 10 euros and this is in my opinion the best way to start playing the game.

  • @vendoluxer9012
    @vendoluxer9012 Год назад +1

    My first five star was wanderer💀
    Those god damned mushrooms and the flying boss wasted 2 weeks of my life trying to reach...

  • @beng6149
    @beng6149 Год назад +1

    Oh dang this is a bummer. I just returned to the game after 3 years. Just killed Davin or whatever that dragon is called.

  • @MuhammadKharismawan
    @MuhammadKharismawan Год назад +1

    The way other game abate the problem is putting the asc mats on events, and then putting mats shop in the 4-5th year of the game. The problem with genshin is majority of its enjoyment is the exploration part.

  • @letlotlomolise7594
    @letlotlomolise7594 Год назад +1

    Real I started genshin and I got an early yelan on her first banner, I quit and just got back in, she's still at lvl 40, she carried for a while tho

  • @atrangiadityagaming3561
    @atrangiadityagaming3561 Год назад +1

    Imagine if you start playing in version 5.3 or something and you have to go through all the nations to reach natlan and level up characters that would suck

  • @joyalexander3454
    @joyalexander3454 Год назад +2

    As a new player, wanderer was my first 5 star (technically I also had Mona from standard) all my other characters were the free ones or from the beginner banner (I got wanderer 2nd 10 pull so I didn't really get 4 stars from that). This was a serious problem for me, because, even when I ran to sumeru to get books and level materials, I couldn't get the weekly boss talent materials for wanderer. I was AR 50, over 2 months into the game, when I could start increasing the talent level of my only main DPS character. Yes, I probably could have mained traveler, but I didn't really know how the team comps worked when I got wanderer and he could fly so I chose him. It made the game kinda really annoying bc I constantly felt like I was wasting time and falling behind my world rank because weeks were passing without me fighting the weekly boss I needed

  • @imsmokeyy5630
    @imsmokeyy5630 Год назад +1

    i said this and i will say it again, there NEEDS to a system to trade items from other regions and it being a 1-1 trade, its stupid af the fact that its not even a thing yet. its visible that its already hard for new players, just imagining how it will be in the future is scary.

  • @billbaggins7355
    @billbaggins7355 Год назад +2

    This is how I felt pulling Kazuha when I first started playing at the absolute tail end of the banner. I sat on him being like level 40 for a LONG time.

  • @accelarate
    @accelarate Год назад +2

    Skill issue

  • @ashleycullen.933
    @ashleycullen.933 Год назад +1

    streamers have fucked games due to the amount of hours they can put into a game compared to normal humans with jobs. they have to give us so much content and gate keep it from the new players so that streamers always have a grind or many hours of content.

  • @MAJCrAiN
    @MAJCrAiN Год назад +1

    I don’t think new players should have access to most features. Earning it is standard in Most games