“Can You Hear Me Now?” Lost Communications Procedures
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- It is important to know the procedures for lost communications before it happens to you! Let’s review and learn how to safely land if we lose radios in both VFR and IFR conditions.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro and Brief
00:40 Lost Comm Troubleshooting
02:30 VFR Lost Comm Procedures
05:50 IFR Lost Comm Procedures
08:20 Final Remarks
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This, to me, is an often under-appreciated but worthwhile topic to discuss. Nice job providing the requisite considerations and troubleshooting advice any pilot can use. I also fly with a PJ2 handheld radio in my flight bag. 4 of 4.
One more tip: look for the TX icon, if that isn't showing when you are pressing the button, then you aren't transmitting
And often a green led light somewhere on the dash
Love your safer pilot challenge series so far!
I’ve also heard, “7-6, get my radio fixed”
One of the most important tools in my flight bag is a hand held radio . Great video thanks again
Thanks again for an important refresher!
4/4...Love the discussion today. Thanks Jason.
4/4 I keep looking into buying a handheld radio, but have yet to do it. This is definitely a good reminder.
4 for 4. Go Jason!!! You'all rock!
4 of 4! Thanks Jason!
4 for 4! I've never looked forward to RUclips videos more than Jason's videos!
4 for 4. Great topic and refresher!!
4/4. So helpful. Thanks MZEROA
Just getting started on this journey! Great videos! 4/4!😊
4/4 - good series as always!!
4/4- PJ2 Handheld always with me! Experienced PTT switch failure as well, quickly moved headset jacks to right seat and used right yoke PTT. Haven’t had a COMM failure yet and this video helps reinforce my training. Thanks!
Four! Hoping to get a hand held for my birthday in February. Keep ‘em coming, Jason.
Thank you for this every year I look forward to January thanks to you and I’m 4 for 4
Wow! Thank you, very educational. Still playing catch up.
4 for 4. Great discussion about something we really don't practice for. I bought the PJ2 from Sporty's at Oshkosh last year. See you tomorrow Jason.
4/4. Great topic, and reading some of the comments even solidifies my desire to grab a hand-held radio if nothing more than for turning on lights at an airfield at night.
4 for 4! Thanks so much for these videos. I have had a headset failure in flight, and had a PS Engineering audio panel fail. Those were enough to stay current on lost comm procedures! I carry a Yaesu FTA550
You're a Hero, man 🛩
4 for 4
Yet another great topic!
I don’t have a handheld radio yet but I have been considering the PJ2+ maybe this will give me the motivation to just go ahead and make that purchase
you gave the best IFR advice and one I use.
File to the expected IAF and FAF for the destination. Saved my arse on an IFR flight when I lost my radios in IMC down to the last 4 miles to the runway.
I carry the Sportys P2J but even that did not help as the failure was an ELT transmitting with an antenna short to the airframe rendering incoming comms inaudible.
4 for 4 Yes, I have a PJ2 handheld in my Cessna 175. Thanks for another great video.
Actually did happen to me years ago. I gave the radio a good smack and it came back on. Lucky me!
Great topic, Jason. Thank you for the refresher. I carry a Vertex Standard Pilot III handheld. Rugged unit. Be sure to keep the batteries charged.....4/4, thanks Jason.
4/4 love them all!
4 for 4 form London UK.
This was very informative. I don't have my PPL yet, just about to do my qualifying cross country. I have had a handheld radio from day one - The Yaesu 850 which can also double up as a GPS backup in case of emergency. Haven't had to use it for any emergency, and hope I don't have to.
4/4… this is great… as a student pilot, these help!I also bought the Sporty’s PJ2 radio… take it with me when we go up.
4 for 5…..another great topic!
Thank you!
As a student…..looking for everything to make me a safer pilot to include a backup radio in case of comms failure.
Good refrescher!
Four for four here! Thanks for the brilliant way to remember the three emergency squawk codes. I've been struggling with how to remember which is which, and the way you presented them is fantastic. Have a great 2023, Jason!
By the way, what is the origin of "MZeroA"?
4 for 4!! another great video!
4/4 Going to go check out a radio. Thank you
Hi Jason. Just got a Yaesu-850L from my parents for Christmas!
4/4 I did my last flight review with my instructor NORDO (No Radio for those new) as the radios were out for repairs. He did have handheld in case of any needed issue. but there are several older birds in our area that fly NORDO frequently, so we all know to keep an eye out. It also gave more practice on the know where you are as plane doesn't have GPS, and without the radios, no VOR either.
4-4 definitely gonna grab myself a hand held radio because I would rather be prepared for the worst all the time ! Thanks Jason
Great video as always. We fly with a handheld radio at all times…. Need to get adapter for headset though! 😉
4/4! Thanks! I hear stuck mic switches fairly often, even I had one too, my CFI caught it! oh yeah, I bought myself a Yaesu FTA-550AA h.held radio for Christmas! Thanks M0A!
I have needed my handheld on more than one occasion! Our 182 has an aux jack to connect handheld to airplane antenna. That has been amazing when 30 miles from airport at 9,500.
4 for 4. I carry a iComm handheld. I have only needed it once, due to an antenna failure. I was very happy I had it.
4 for 4
Lost coms due to inadvertently bumping the intercom switch.
Landed at an uncontrolled field to troubleshoot.
I learned something new about the plane that day.
Most pilots don’t know all their systems as well as they could.
Thank you for mentioning troubleshooting before assuming all hope is lost! I learned it “76 got no clicks”
4 for 4. Keep it going!! And I fly with a PJ2 handheld radio.
4 for 4. Thanks Jason!
444R2!
I have the Sportys PJ2. No headset adapter needed! I'm only a VFR student and this radio has already come through for me twice since I soloed. Spend the $300 even if just for peace of mind.
4 for 4. Lost comms once due to an alternator failure. Landed safely at a PCA nearby. I had my handheld PJ2 radio onboard, but it was in my flightbag in the passenger compartment and inaccessible. Since that day I have always made sure it is ready to go, and within easy reach at all times.
4/4 Great video!
I Love Yeasu Radios coming from the Amateur Radio operator world. I've been looking at the 550 but the 750 and 850 look awesome
Oh yeah - 4 for 4. Very great lesson
4 for 4. Yes, also have the Yaesu 850 and it's always with me. I took it one step further with carrying an external windshield mount antenna.
Love my Yaesu! Always keep a backup headset and batteries.
During my check ride prep I came up with the situation "Defective alternator during a night flight.". Ever since I never leave the ground at night without a backup radio. Just the thought of landing at night at an unlit airfield with no coms scared me.
I have an old no name (from?) sportys headset. Make sure you also make a radio check on your backup before taking off.
I have a Vertex VXA-220 with headset adapter and built an antenna connector in my KR2; admittedly that is also the KR2's primary radio :) 4/4
Great 4th video
All caught up now 4 for 4. I fly with a Sporty's PJ2 specifically for this scenario. It has standard headset jacks built in... no need to search for and connect an adapter during a higher-stress moment.
4 for 4 thus far. My handheld was given to me by my father. It’s a basic handheld, and it’s old, but it works.
This literally happened to me in November. Lost comms, and all electronics for that matter, and had to 7600 with diversion. A good time was had by most...
4 for 4 Thanks!!!
444
Thanks for the series!
4 for 4. Thanks!
4 for 4 thanks so much
4 for 4!
I've had stuck mike button and intercom issues but luckily no lost comms. However, I do have the Sporty's PJ2 handheld radio, just in case. Just remember, the antenna on it isn't that powerful so don't expect to reach a tower facility 20 miles away. At best you may be able to relay through an aircraft close by.
Hit radio failure in the practice area pre solo, so CFI was there. Troubleshot - it was a stuck mic but nothing would fix it, so we texted someone in the pattern, relayed a message and light gunned into class D. Certainly good to do, now have a charged handheld in the bag just in case
4 for 4
Sportys PJ2 handheld and it works great
4*4 just ordered the pj2+ handheld
I am 4 for 4 and I got the Yasu 550 Pro - x I thought I had the 750 I have not look at it in a long while, I think I will make sure it still works.
4 of 4 !!
4 for 4. thanks!
4 for 4 keep it coming
4 for 4, I do have a handheld I always fly with, it was the best rated one at Sporty's
I fly apache attack helicopters we have like 6 radios, never even met anyone whosnhad lost coms in the apache. But these are good refreshers. You never know.
4/4. Nice refresher, thanks. You mentioned looking at the windsock, but what about the sign square to determine the runway in use?
444. Great list comms discussion!
I am 4 for 4. I use the Yaesu 850 as well as a backup.
I have an iCom ACA-47. Works really well and there’s a button to automatically tune to 121.5.
444/ I just had a training session on this 👊🏾💯 VKX
I've had a couple of instances of lost communications. One during my recent IPC last spring at Tucson (KTUS)! We're not really sure what happened, but ATC couldn't seem to hear us, even though we could hear them. We just flew back to KAVQ and landed. Thankfully, that was after my last approach of the IPC. The other was years ago when a wire broke on my alternator and my battery got low. I was able to talk to ATC (KCID) and get an immediate clearance to land before the radio completely failed. Now, I carry a ham radio handheld and my cell phone. I can receive aviation frequencies on the handheld, but can't transmit.. 4/4
4 for 4 from Stratford Texas!
My Christmas present was the PJ2+. My radio is very old and does not support monitoring the standby freq. I plug a 3.5mm cable into the PJ2+ and my Bose A20, and now I can listen to ATIS while my radio stays on the main freq. Looking for a modern radio under the tree next year.
4 for 4. Good info for a low time Private Pilot.
4 of 4!
Thanks for this vid Jason!
Question: isn't it safer to try and go to a towered airport for VFR lost comms rather than going to an untowered hoping traffic will see you too?
Have my handheld need to replace the headset adapter… listen to traffic at my desk for therapy often! 4/4
Great topic. 4 for 4
Sporty's hand held!
Just caught up now 8 for 8
Day 4 for 4. Keeping the trend going.
4 for 4 from Hungary🇭🇺
I have a Yaesu VX-7R with a 3.5mm Jack adaptor which I’m always carrying in the cockpit - so I probably need a different adaptor for my David Clark headset (if there is one🤔)
BTW I had a weird radio issue in one of the C150s I flew in a couple years back. During the flight at one point there was a loud static noise on the radio, like somebody had their PTT stuck on. I could hear the FIC and other pilots on the frequency, but jut barely. A good 20 minutes into troubleshooting the issue I had a hunch - pulled out the USB charger which I used for mz GoPro from the 12V socket, and just like that, the issue was gone…
Absolutely time to buy a good handheld. I’ve procrastinated too long.
2 hand held radios Bendix king kx-99 purchased for 8.99 sold to me as a "CB Radio" and a icom A-22
4:4 I always carry a vertex navcom that's waterproof, and I just replaced the rechargeable batteries in it last month.
4/4! I need to get a handheld...
4 for 4. No handheld yet. It’s on my list as a flight bag tool.
4 for 4! I had a dodgy PTT switch once and handheld's batteries were dead (despite being replaced recently - now have NEW handheld!) and used the bluetooth on my headset and phone to communicate. I also tried using copilot PTT but, duh, forgot to switch headset plugs...
4 of 4. I had a 'doh' lost comm situation after service on the radios. After several attempts to fix (depart, return, depart, return) the problem was determined to be the aircraft handheld mic (who uses this???) was placed in the cradle backwards and when the vibration of the airplane increased (full power on take-off for example) the button depressed intermittently and eventually would stick. The second departure I was on an IFR flight plan, in IMC and was not able to communicate and tying up the frequency. I squawked 7600, proceeded with AVEFMEA, changed to an unused frequency in the area to free up the frequency and then I was able to use my handheld radio which I have the ability to connect to an external antenna and my headset (which I often practice setting up to make sure I can do it under pressure) and was able to get a clearance to return to my departure airport (and avionics shop), then got out of IMC, cancelled IFR and landed VFR to 'fix' the problem again - when I noticed the handheld mic in backwards....problem solved. I now have something else I check after maintenance inside the cockpit.
Great stuff MZeroA!
4 for 4 Jason!!!!!
4-4!!
4/4. Do not own a handheld but perhaps it's time to look for one...