It’s a very athletic style that takes hard work that probably no one wants to do. Because tbh it’s not easy. It’s a lot of lunges and squats. And head movement drills
And boxers have gotten smarter, dealing with a peekaboo would be easier in this generation. Peekaboo was just unknown enough that there isnt enough information about it, but now its damn easy to study a weakness of a boxer.
@@Bryan_Hernandez69 not to mention, u need the right body proportions to get the most value out of this style Long torso with short legs mean ur dip/slip speeds will be slower, more off balanced, and your step in distance will be less optimal.
@@CtchHndz any style can always be modernized and revived; the main issue is that it's too demanding and not many fighters wish to rely on a form of boxing that risks exhaustion in later rounds. Any boxer with a shorter stature and incredibke aggression, however, can be taught the form. There's also the issue that not many coaches teach it - though many do state it's simply a matter of comfort.
Cus d Amato “remember from the side you can let that punch go with the worst kind of intentions because you know he can’t hit you back so you can throw the bomb with all the power you can generate.”
Mike was groomed as a child, not in that way in a different more dangerous way in the sense of harm not being done to him but the damage he would do to others, he was groomed to become a killer and a real fighter he had so much time to become the best he ever could be which is why Mike understands his own ego, his ego and power was groomed to be the most dangerous man in the world
@@TheShowOff2Ifacts bro ion like their style of boxing cause I like power shots but that’s why I watch UFC but you can’t say he isn’t talented cause bro literally could be the GOAT in some eyes
Exactly, constant explosive drills daily for numerous reps , it wasn’t just 3 x a week this was everyday. there’s fighters that dedicate their lives to the sport but mikes training routine when cus was still alive was literally living it 24/7 even while he was asleep, no free time at all whatsoever
Yeah, if you don’t end the fight within the first 3-4 rounds, you’re probably gonna get tired out first and eventually lose. Depends on the output of the opponent as well. It’s a great style for an explosive puncher that can get the KO early.
It becomes second nature and the fatigue that people imagine would be there doesn’t exist. It just becomes how you move and it saves your ass so many times that your body doesn’t want to do anything else. Regular roadwork and diligent slip bag work on top of sparring etc… is all you need to keep you spar and competitive. I’m 44 and still get in the ring with 20 year olds and do multiple round robins. I expend less energy than others cause that head movement keeps me out of trouble.
didn't every peekaboo fighter add their own spin to the style though? still using the same fundamentals but changing the style to best suit themselves. floyd patterson and mike tyson didn't box exactly the same.
Floyd Patterson and Mike Tyson were not trained in the same version of the Cus style. Mike was trained in a more evolved version of the style than Floyd or Jose Torres. There is a blueprint to the Cus style that makes it work. From there, you fight to your strengths. The fighters in the gym who grew up with Mike all fought to their strengths. Some were boxers, some used more footwork and angles, etc. But you aren’t necessarily making a new style and just keeping your hands up, as that’s no longer the Cus style.
every fighter in every style does that theres very few fighters that do things exactly textbook to the T everybody is built differently and has different physical abilities and ways to move through space
Mike Tyson has great talent and is smart and that's why he mastered the peekaboo style It is not easy to come across someone like Tyson Cus D’amato after decades and at the end of his life, Tyson came to him
From what both Cus and Teddy Atlas said, peekaboo isn't for everybody. It's not even a first option, but a last resort for a specific type of boxer with certain limitations. As Cus put it in an excerpt I once read, he honed it for Floyd Patterson, a boxer who had limitations of short arms/ limited reach, but who could make up for that handicap with exceptional natural speed. The peekaboo allowed him to make best use of his natural talents within the parameters of his physical limitations. It was also a great fit for Tyson because he had also short arms/ reach, but could compensate for that with great speed and agility in a peekaboo style. So peekaboo only works for boxers who are exceptionally fast and agile. However, it takes so much work to get right and is so energy intensive, that it's not worth it unless somebody *has to* use it because of a specific handicap such as the short arms/ reach of a Patterson or Tyson. And it would only work if those boxers have extraordinary speed. If a boxer has normal arms and reach, he doesn't need peekaboo, and would be much better off with a different style. And if he has short arms and reach, but isn't extraordinary fast and agile, peekaboo would also be a bad fit.
First time reading this and can totally agree. When I was young in 1986 I copied the pattern I had seen from Mike on VHS tape. In my boxing gym in Germany they taught the classic amateur style which was not effective for me with my short arms and I felt that this Peakaboo style would suit me better. I quickly realized that you need exceptional determination and a strong mind for this style. Developing these is a whole other story.
They teach it the way they fought, but not the way they were taught. Wow, you just summed up something I could not understand with different coaches, different sports and why some could impart knowledge and others could not. so simple, and yet so hard to grasp and apply. Well put.
You have to teach the style to the boxers strengths. That's What Cus Did. Peek a boo style is like "cliff notes" an to get the whole story you add in the strengths for the fighter. That is what separated cus from the students that tried teaching. The "new teachers" taught how they fought in peek a boo not how their students should fight in that style. Lot of squats, turns, Hitting from the side. Stick an move while circling..
All respect to Kevin Rooney, but he never developed anyone in the Cus style. He simply maintained what Teddy Atlas had trained into Mike. I personally know fighters who grew up with Kevin and they say he skipped a lot of fundamentals, which is why he couldn’t develop another fighter in that style.
@@timbagley4210not everyone CAN teach even if they've been taught it. Drive, mentality, and ability to stick to fundamentals is as important in a trainer as it is a fighter.
Cant agree more with you. Even Tyson didnt stick to what he had been taught after Cuz died sadly. And i doubt there will be another boxer being able to execute a Peekaboo style the same way Cuz desribed it.
Yup I noticed that. He had lost so many of his skills especially after he got out of jail. His fighting style just slowly diminished after D'Amato's death.
Well said carter, I can tell your a great trainer. You really are bringing back true cus n teddy style in pure form like they wanted it taught which makes great fighters, not like the trainers before you who taught there after cus n teddy. I can’t wait to come and train over there. And your right about the psychological part, it’s the most important just like cus n teddy said aswell. Keep up the way your going, good things 💪
Our gym has Cus lineage in it and i can verify everything youre saying. This channel is something special for your humble understanding of the training and style.
Marlon Starling's peek a boo high guard style was very effective although more defensive than conventional peek a boo. Great fighter to watch, always made the fight a marathon, not a sprint.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It’s a shame Cus style doesn’t get the recognition it deserves. Patterson, Torres, Rooney and Tyson did extremely well during their careers. I do think it’s a more sophisticated style in regard to seek and destroy approach. I seen it as Aggressive counter punching! That being said the physical aspect and focus needed to pull off this peekaboo style for 12 rounds has got to be exhausting. Maybe? Then again those angles, hooks and body should put your opponent on his back or weaken them into submission.
In my opinion i got taught by someone who was trained with mike and cus and its because its the style that takes the most energy out of any style and its kinda a rare style as well
You don't understand how much I really appreciate you and this channel bro I've done everything from the videos and I've gotten so much better keep it up bro🔥💪🥊
Brother you spent the first 5 minutes saying the same thing 8 different ways had my headphones in and i had to check if this wasnt a short and i had it just replaying.
I’m not expert at the peekaboo but I did take some basic boxing lessons a long time ago and when I look at the footwork and the defense Mike Tyson had during his prime; lots of people don’t notice, is that Mike’s defense and counters were exceptional. He wasn’t world champion and “the baddest” boxer on earth because he hit hard, nobody and I nobody could touch him. This is a great video👍
Basically Peekaboo boxers tend to have short careers because of wear and tear on the body over time. Marvin Hagler is a good example of someone who mastered the Peekaboo style but over time he began to show signs of slurred speach. ✌🏿 Good video
Another factor is that fighters today usually have very similar height, reach, and body composition. The peekaboo style tends to excel in situations where a fighter has less reach-typically a shorter individual who can "get inside" the opponent's range quickly and use their height as an advantage. However, this type of scenario is rare today due to the factors mentioned.
Man ever since I was a child I would use the peek a boo not the correct way just by seeing Mike Tyson and copying move for move but now watching you it makes me feel like I have a cus teaching me thank you so much man much love
With the right attention and funding you might be able to bring this style back. Like one of those old Kung Fu movies. Find the hidden manual for the secret style of Kung Fu!😂 Real talk though, I would love to see that happen. Great style of boxing. Just need the right individual to fit into the style.
Why doesn’t Teddy Atlas teach this style? I’m curious.. He’s work boxers in the professional ranks. I don’t expect them to change style cuz Teddy is in camp now. We know that wouldn’t work. But, I don’t think I seen any of them attempt a peekaboo technique?
Its honestly surprising that the style isnt completely gone considering how complicated the style really is. Its like a duning krufer effect the moment you take a while to learn the style from reputable sources like your self you understand truly how great the style is with all of its subtleties it goes to show how much there is to learn. Boxing truly is the game of the thinking man and this style especially requires intelligence. Also isnt fai faiva a peakaboo fighter? I understand shes relatively new but shes still leagues ahead of amateurs like me and others who look up to this channel
I dont think it's that much harder than other ones, cuz for me it fits WAY better than any other one, I guess it's just a great coincidence. (I'm a beginner btw, so I'm just guessing stuff according to my short experience, but... for some unknown reason, using Peekaboo, as a RIGHT HANDED SOUTHPAW.... makes me flow way more naturally. That's why it may not be harder, just very rare due to specific preferences)
it's also objectively an inefficient style since there are so many requirements to get it right. If you don't have the right proportions, athleticism, or fast twitch fibers, you're not going to get as much value out of it. A shorter fighter with a long torso and short legs will have slower dip + slip reset speeds compared to someone like Tyson who's torso to leg ratio are more even. If you don't have the explosiveness to cover the distance when pushing off the rear foot in a square stance, you're not going to be able to close the gap. And the demands on the legs, lower back, and cardio all add to the inefficiencies. For the vast majority of boxers, this style just doesn't make sense.
@@khyunwoo1 oh, now it makes a whole lot of sense, when I first started working out, I started doing squats every day LOL. Maybe that's why I feel comfortable with this style, it's very leg based.
I love this Carter well done. Loved to hearing your opinion. I did not hear however you mention what we hear all the time that to be successful with the style you have to be built like Mike Tyson ? i.e short ; stocky etc. I do agree that the Peek a Boo style is the most effective boxing style. You mention 'The Master' who was this ? You mention about Teddy Atlas whom I do agree is a fantastic trainer and is still about. Why does he now not teach the Peek a Boo style ? Most of the fighters he has trained since leaving the gym has been traditional boxing style way ( Davy Moore; Plovetin ? I like what I am hearing about your goal though . I hope the style does not disappear as you have said you are the only trainer at the gym now teaching the style. I hope also that you produce champions using the Peek a Boos style and we see a champion very soon using the style
Peekaboo fighting is a unique skill you need a special set of traits for it to work. The beauty of it is that it works for multiple approaches. Its very offensive natured attackers make for the peekaboo because you train to be so extremely defensive to compliment you natural offense. Patterson was a floaty outside striker from the peekaboo tyson was an explosive boulders from a cannon striker right inside of your defense. It is such an amazing style but it takes a special student.
The evolution of Carter Weber You see Tyson at 60 and We don't want to believe it will happen to Me. Life on earth is temporary. Even when hurt injured old broke We are still Alive. Have to fight until the end. Bitter pill to swallow knowing do Our best until the inevitable end. Cus rest in peace knowing there are Others "Who Will Carry The Flag" and make it better.
I’ve been teaching myself the peakaboo style by watching your videos and practicing on my own. I feel like I’m doing good and have the power and explosiveness and potential. It’s a shame your gym is overseas
Pair it with wrestling and emphasis on elbows and knees from muay Thai. Close the distance while causing as much damage as possible. At least that makes sense in my head.
You would have to deal with kicks, especially leg kicks. So you would probably have to change the stance. Being an aggressive counter punching style, you would have to most likely make adjustments to deal with other things people would do that they can't do in boxing. It would end up looking very different, but so do wrestling and BJJ from their sports counterparts.
Some people excel in certain styles and develop them naturally. "Forcing yourself" into a particular style-which can be seen as a personal trait acceptable within the game rules-doesn't guarantee achieving the ultimate goal of winning the match or game. Statements like "Learn Bruce Lee's style" or "Learn Michael Jordan's style" don't necessarily make someone a better athlete; they may only serve as inspiration, particularly for beginners.
Yep, in high school when I was boxing, I read this book and had regular Q&A zoom calls with the authors. Since I’ve moved to the gym and learned from guys who learned directly from Teddy and Cus though, what I saw is that book actually has a ton of missing information in regards to the Cus style. It’s a great start and has great illustrations though! Was clearly a labor of love.
@@peekabooboxingacademy Thats great.. The book was more centered towards psychology, the psychology that cus taught and how he got there, less of the physical part. He dedicated only two chapters to the physical because it was a book dedicated to his philosophy.
Could you make a video on how to move with the peekaboo style? Such as jabbing and moving with the peekaboo style and being on the offense with peekabo style.
Another great video! You're right on point: you have to master the basics, especially the leg work which is the foundation. You can't build a house from the top down; it starts from the bottom up. By the way, are you a Webb? I'm a Webb as well!
One day I will visit you in New York AND TEACH ME TO MASTER THIS STYLE! Why no one today wants to learn this fighting style? Because this takes a lot of energy, you always do leg training because the power of your punch will come from your legs and hips, you do a lot of side to side head movement, you do a lot of tiring practices and this aggressive way of fighting will tire you in a real fight! Not a lot of wanna-be hopeful boxers would want to train this hardcore to be good in this style!
can you please do a video on how to throw each punch in the peekabok stance i dont know how to jab and move at the same time if you understand what im trying to say
Isn't the Peakaboo incredibly defensive in nature. Mike and Cus were able to make it seem very aggressive because Mike was insanely athletic and dynamic with KO power in each strike. That's why its died down, bot many people can do it like Mike, and I'm sure it's also not a syle that's built for longevity. As soon as your lose a step or slow down, that'll be a career.
Credibility is in question here. No mention of Patterson and Torres, but there's a mysterious unnamed "master"? Downplaying the stamina necessary for the style when constant head movement is most essential to it. There's a reason Cus had success with the youngest fighters and that Mike couldn't use the style well as he aged
Hi I'm just wondering why kevin rooney is never talked about? Is he still well enough for a interview? I heard he has demensia. I think all Mike's fans would love to hear how Kevin's doing, thanks
Carter, your such a great teacher. How can I get in touch for a planned trip to visit? My son is in boxing at 7yo and we're both huge Tyson fans and would love a visit and maybe talk about the possibilities of coaching! Thanks again for these awesome videos, great work!
I always have wondered if the peekaboo style could translate into MMA or kick boxing. Would adding kicks and elbows make it even more dangerous? Would the style be able to be adapted to MMA or kickboxing? For example all the head movements just lead you right into an elbow, knee or foot. Just curious.
rule 1 pick a style that fits you rule 2 learn other styles just incase you might need them to adapt to youre opponant,rule 3 sometimes just do freesyle just adapt and do whats needed even if its not a style. the psychological rule is quat simple to me do youre best train in stamina and power and speed and ones youre in the ring nomatter who you got infront of you big or small nothing is ashured you both have equal chances it just depends on what you do.
It's not just because it requires a lot of training and is still hard to master (and so no one is willing to put in the effort or resist the pressure of "badly imitating Tyson"). Cus never develop an answer to "wrestling" style boxing, e.g. Holyfield's tactic. Also there is no answer to another tactic, i.e. that of Lennox Lewis, which is "waiting" for you inside with an uppercut. In short, speed is not enough to contrast such tactics. Peek a Boo works very well as a counter attack fighter, but as an offensive style it has at least those above mentioned weaknesses. I'd be curious to know about others' opinions on this! Thanks for the video! Best wishes
Would it be right to summarize this as "Every component in the peekaboo style needs to be carefully crafted before merging it together" opposed attempting to re-create the whole immediately from what is already present thus far?
true words. Dempsey was the father of this style. close distance, make him miss, make him pay and all that by bobbing and weavig. with bad intentions and a perfect punching technique.
Dempsey wasn't really peekaboo style in it's purity he was just a pure brawler and Tyson wanted to imitate his ferocity and his killer instinct. Dempsey is like Tyson without the refined technique.
@walmartian422 the dempsey roll is like the bonafide precursor to peekaboo imo. While i think its fair to say his style wasnt peekaboo, i also dont think you can mention it and not dempsey. Dempsey roll is to motocross as peekaboo is to supercross, if that makes sense... doubt you see one without the other even if theyre quite different.
Heavyweight boxers are on average 6 foot 4 to 6 foot 8. 245lbs pounds minimum. There is little reason for them to expend the amount of energy it takes for the peekaboo style to work. Mike Tyson and even the late great Joe Frazier had to use it because they were always at a height disadvantage.
I feel like you need big strong forearms for this style of boxing in a street fight. Because when your hands are up and they punching you they’ll hit all arms
Hey Carter I have a few questions, when do you think you will start training people more than twice a week, I’m thinking about taking a trip to Catskill. And when is the next training video coming out?
It’s a cool style but damn it’s so energy demanding. I think everyone has tried to do it while messing around and quickly figured out how crazy it is to be practical. Mike was built different
Hey i love your Videos. Can you please do a Video about how to box as a taller peakaboo boxer. Which drills would you do very often, strategies, combinations,..
Watch Jose Torres, Floyd Patterson, and Mike Tyson all fought using peekaboo differently based on their physical abilities. If you are stocky and strong, watch Tyson. If slender, athletic, and have fast hands, watch Patterson. If you are neither, watch Torres.
Best is add some of the style that works for you. If you're a textbook fighter in any style, all someone has to do is know the weak spots and counters There's a famous kickboxer whose name escapes me that incorporated peekaboo into his style to great effect, for instance. This is why MMA is what it is - you never know exactly what's cooking in the goulash.
I like what your saying about teaching how they were taught as opposed to how they fought that holds true with so many things even the buddhas meditation technique that liberated the whole northern part of India but then people started adding to it and the efficacy diminished. I will say the one problem I noticed with this style is you can’t punch going backwards and to me that seems to limit you. Like Hagler could go back forward and so on like Ali as well and we saw when Tyson fought Holyfield, Evander went into him and didn’t back up and he was smaller as well now that might be because it was a different Tyson when he was younger he cut angles and so on but the people he was fighting looked like my Uncles in a bar fight. Holyfield on his 11th fight went 15 rounds with Dwight Muhammad. I also feel that peekaboo is better for shorter fighters but taller ones leave their stomach to open. Great video.
For shorter fighters, peek-a-boo, I MIGHT AGREE! But anyone can learn this style as long as they are willing to put in the gruelling work, length of training and to learn properly on how to use this in a real fight to be good using this style! If you are too tall against your shorter enemy like 7 inches taller, you will just have to adjust your distance and angle of punches. Peek-A-Boo is not only hooks and upper cuts, like every style, it have jabs and straight punches.
"most effective style" It would be very hard to convince me that it's the best style for a guy with long reach. Thomas Hearns style wouldn't be most effective for Mike Tyson and vice versa.
Ukrainian boxing school is the reason Peekaboo desappeared. Peekaboo style is easy to deal with if you box in Ukrainian school. Which is technic, long distance, footwork, jab. Peekaboo style is about mid-short distance and power. Disadvantage: slow on feet. Ukrainian boxers box from the distance, they are all authomatically ligher on feet then a peekaboo boxer. So they hit him before he reach mid distance, then they step back to keep the distance again. Jab and distance 10 rounds. Make him tired. Then they use a combination or right hand to finish. Example: Wladimir Klitschko. He finished all peecaboo fighters with his jab and distance. Usyk, Loma, Gvozdik, Berynchyk all Ukrainians box from the distance. Well, when they move up in weight they became smaller then opponent and start to use peekaboo too. Look at some Loma fights. Usyk vs Joshua and Fury (in some episodes he fights from the distance,in close range he fights peekaboo). So this style is stil in use buy Ukrainian guys vs bigger opponent on a short distances
NAH! Isaac Cruz is an in-fighter! Notice that he does not use more of his head to slip through punches. Look at the movement of his legs it is different than a real Peek-A-Boo boxer. Watch his training sessions he never trained like Mike!
@@awakenedsoul2638 You realize previous peek-a-boo style boxers before Tyson had their own spin to the style? Same with Philly shell style fighters are all different. Pitbull Cruz is both an infighter and peek-a-boo style boxer
@@TheBoxingRealm Experts did not consider him to be. He is mostly an in-fighter. AGAIN, watch the video. Just because his stance is like Ippo Makunouchi's stance does not mean he box as Peek-A-Boo. His style is reminiscent from his Mexican Fellow Boxer Julio Caesar Chavez! Both an in-fighter, aggressive always and always throw many punches. Footwork, Headmovement, almost no jab, does not change strategy and have problems against boxers who have good jab and is an out boxer, Isaac have a hard time! You are forgetting the basics and fundamentals of boxing. Peek-A-Boo is not a style you can just mimic! It is no different than theshoulder roll that requires and ample amount of practice and time to effectively use it!
@@awakenedsoul2638 AGAIN CASUAL. Philly Shell fighters like Teofimo, Haney and Floyd Mayweather and even the boxer who created it all boxed differently in their own way casual. Chavez gaurd is more open and squared, same with Chavez stance, open and a bit squared. Pitbull's gaurd is covering his chin a peek-a-boo guard and a bit crouched. Peek-a-boo boxers before Mike Tyson evem existed, all boxed differently from Tyson. Mike Tyson said in his own words Pitbull Cruz today is the closest fighter to him stylistically. Ydksab
I think it isn't used cause most people in boxing who make it far these days fight in 2 or 3 weight classes under where they should be. They look for reach and size advantage and the peekaboo style is better for a shorter boxer who wants to close distance and get inside. If you have the advantages you want to box from the outside and use a jab and straight hands.
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It’s a very athletic style that takes hard work that probably no one wants to do. Because tbh it’s not easy. It’s a lot of lunges and squats. And head movement drills
Interesting take
And boxers have gotten smarter, dealing with a peekaboo would be easier in this generation.
Peekaboo was just unknown enough that there isnt enough information about it, but now its damn easy to study a weakness of a boxer.
@@Bryan_Hernandez69 not to mention, u need the right body proportions to get the most value out of this style
Long torso with short legs mean ur dip/slip speeds will be slower, more off balanced, and your step in distance will be less optimal.
Exactly this my friend. Lots of lazy people in this modern world.
@@CtchHndz any style can always be modernized and revived; the main issue is that it's too demanding and not many fighters wish to rely on a form of boxing that risks exhaustion in later rounds. Any boxer with a shorter stature and incredibke aggression, however, can be taught the form. There's also the issue that not many coaches teach it - though many do state it's simply a matter of comfort.
Cus d Amato “remember from the side you can let that punch go with the worst kind of intentions because you know he can’t hit you back so you can throw the bomb with all the power you can generate.”
He didn’t say that weirdo
Nobody could do it like Mike, nobody could teach it like Cus.
Similar to the Philly shell shoulder Roll
Nobody could do it like Floyd and No one could teach it like Roger and Floyd Sr
Mike was groomed as a child, not in that way in a different more dangerous way in the sense of harm not being done to him but the damage he would do to others, he was groomed to become a killer and a real fighter he had so much time to become the best he ever could be which is why Mike understands his own ego, his ego and power was groomed to be the most dangerous man in the world
@@TheShowOff2Ifacts bro ion like their style of boxing cause I like power shots but that’s why I watch UFC but you can’t say he isn’t talented cause bro literally could be the GOAT in some eyes
My coach teaches it better and more complete.
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It's a lot of freakin work. The constant head movement is more tiring and then it takes a monster puncher to make it worth the trouble.
Exactly, constant explosive drills daily for numerous reps , it wasn’t just 3 x a week this was everyday. there’s fighters that dedicate their lives to the sport but mikes training routine when cus was still alive was literally living it 24/7 even while he was asleep, no free time at all whatsoever
True. Tyson looked like he was spending 5 times the energy his opponents were without even throwing a punch
Yeah, if you don’t end the fight within the first 3-4 rounds, you’re probably gonna get tired out first and eventually lose. Depends on the output of the opponent as well. It’s a great style for an explosive puncher that can get the KO early.
It becomes second nature and the fatigue that people imagine would be there doesn’t exist. It just becomes how you move and it saves your ass so many times that your body doesn’t want to do anything else. Regular roadwork and diligent slip bag work on top of sparring etc… is all you need to keep you spar and competitive. I’m 44 and still get in the ring with 20 year olds and do multiple round robins. I expend less energy than others cause that head movement keeps me out of trouble.
didn't every peekaboo fighter add their own spin to the style though? still using the same fundamentals but changing the style to best suit themselves. floyd patterson and mike tyson didn't box exactly the same.
Floyd Patterson and Mike Tyson were not trained in the same version of the Cus style. Mike was trained in a more evolved version of the style than Floyd or Jose Torres.
There is a blueprint to the Cus style that makes it work. From there, you fight to your strengths. The fighters in the gym who grew up with Mike all fought to their strengths. Some were boxers, some used more footwork and angles, etc. But you aren’t necessarily making a new style and just keeping your hands up, as that’s no longer the Cus style.
every fighter in every style does that theres very few fighters that do things exactly textbook to the T everybody is built differently and has different physical abilities and ways to move through space
Very true
@@zazacouncilso true
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Mike Tyson has great talent and is smart and that's why he mastered the peekaboo style
It is not easy to come across someone like Tyson
Cus D’amato after decades and at the end of his life, Tyson came to him
From what both Cus and Teddy Atlas said, peekaboo isn't for everybody. It's not even a first option, but a last resort for a specific type of boxer with certain limitations.
As Cus put it in an excerpt I once read, he honed it for Floyd Patterson, a boxer who had limitations of short arms/ limited reach, but who could make up for that handicap with exceptional natural speed. The peekaboo allowed him to make best use of his natural talents within the parameters of his physical limitations. It was also a great fit for Tyson because he had also short arms/ reach, but could compensate for that with great speed and agility in a peekaboo style.
So peekaboo only works for boxers who are exceptionally fast and agile. However, it takes so much work to get right and is so energy intensive, that it's not worth it unless somebody *has to* use it because of a specific handicap such as the short arms/ reach of a Patterson or Tyson. And it would only work if those boxers have extraordinary speed. If a boxer has normal arms and reach, he doesn't need peekaboo, and would be much better off with a different style. And if he has short arms and reach, but isn't extraordinary fast and agile, peekaboo would also be a bad fit.
First time reading this and can totally agree. When I was young in 1986 I copied the pattern I had seen from Mike on VHS tape. In my boxing gym in Germany they taught the classic amateur style which was not effective for me with my short arms and I felt that this Peakaboo style would suit me better. I quickly realized that you need exceptional determination and a strong mind for this style. Developing these is a whole other story.
They teach it the way they fought, but not the way they were taught. Wow, you just summed up something I could not understand with different coaches, different sports and why some could impart knowledge and others could not. so simple, and yet so hard to grasp and apply. Well put.
Yeah,not everyone fought the same,but everyone at some point was taught the same.
You have to teach the style to the boxers strengths. That's What Cus Did.
Peek a boo style is like "cliff notes" an to get the whole story you add in the strengths for the fighter.
That is what separated cus from the students that tried teaching. The "new teachers" taught how they fought in peek a boo not how their students should fight in that style.
Lot of squats, turns, Hitting from the side. Stick an move while circling..
Why u not mention Kevin Rooney as a trainer who was there too ??
All respect to Kevin Rooney, but he never developed anyone in the Cus style. He simply maintained what Teddy Atlas had trained into Mike. I personally know fighters who grew up with Kevin and they say he skipped a lot of fundamentals, which is why he couldn’t develop another fighter in that style.
Rooney was a good fighter and trained by Cus and then Teddy. Was he not taught the same peekaboo style?
@@timbagley4210not everyone CAN teach even if they've been taught it. Drive, mentality, and ability to stick to fundamentals is as important in a trainer as it is a fighter.
Floyd Patterson was a peek-a-boo fighter and Jose Torres
Isaac Pitbull Cruz
Cant agree more with you.
Even Tyson didnt stick to what he had been taught after Cuz died sadly.
And i doubt there will be another boxer being able to execute a Peekaboo style the same way Cuz desribed it.
Yup I noticed that. He had lost so many of his skills especially after he got out of jail. His fighting style just slowly diminished after D'Amato's death.
Well said carter, I can tell your a great trainer. You really are bringing back true cus n teddy style in pure form like they wanted it taught which makes great fighters, not like the trainers before you who taught there after cus n teddy. I can’t wait to come and train over there. And your right about the psychological part, it’s the most important just like cus n teddy said aswell. Keep up the way your going, good things 💪
Our gym has Cus lineage in it and i can verify everything youre saying. This channel is something special for your humble understanding of the training and style.
What's the name of your gym and where is it?
Marlon Starling's peek a boo high guard style was very effective although more defensive than conventional peek a boo. Great fighter to watch, always made the fight a marathon, not a sprint.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. It’s a shame Cus style doesn’t get the recognition it deserves. Patterson, Torres, Rooney and Tyson did extremely well during their careers. I do think it’s a more sophisticated style in regard to seek and destroy approach. I seen it as Aggressive counter punching! That being said the physical aspect and focus needed to pull off this peekaboo style for 12 rounds has got to be exhausting. Maybe? Then again those angles, hooks and body should put your opponent on his back or weaken them into submission.
I’m going thru the steps with you. I wanna learn the right way and teach my son the right way. Love the videos keep it coming 💪🏾
In my opinion i got taught by someone who was trained with mike and cus and its because its the style that takes the most energy out of any style and its kinda a rare style as well
You don't understand how much I really appreciate you and this channel bro I've done everything from the videos and I've gotten so much better keep it up bro🔥💪🥊
Brother you spent the first 5 minutes saying the same thing 8 different ways had my headphones in and i had to check if this wasnt a short and i had it just replaying.
I’m not expert at the peekaboo but I did take some basic boxing lessons a long time ago and when I look at the footwork and the defense Mike Tyson had during his prime; lots of people don’t notice, is that Mike’s defense and counters were exceptional. He wasn’t world champion and “the baddest” boxer on earth because he hit hard, nobody and I nobody could touch him. This is a great video👍
Reminds me of the kareems skyhook in the NBA. Its a very effective shot thats not used in modern basketball
You’ll be the next great Peekaboo style boxing trainer.👍👍🥊🥊🥊🥊
Basically Peekaboo boxers tend to have short careers because of wear and tear on the body over time. Marvin Hagler is a good example of someone who mastered the Peekaboo style but over time he began to show signs of slurred speach. ✌🏿 Good video
Another factor is that fighters today usually have very similar height, reach, and body composition. The peekaboo style tends to excel in situations where a fighter has less reach-typically a shorter individual who can "get inside" the opponent's range quickly and use their height as an advantage. However, this type of scenario is rare today due to the factors mentioned.
Man ever since I was a child I would use the peek a boo not the correct way just by seeing Mike Tyson and copying move for move but now watching you it makes me feel like I have a cus teaching me thank you so much man much love
I'm learning from this channel only I trust you with the cus dmato style
Brilliant! Please keep up the good work! Keep Cus' legacy alive!!!
would you train issac pitbull cruz if he came to you?
he seems perfect for the peekabo style
It is so refreshing to see someone doing what you're doing. The right ways are right here folks.
With the right attention and funding you might be able to bring this style back. Like one of those old Kung Fu movies. Find the hidden manual for the secret style of Kung Fu!😂
Real talk though, I would love to see that happen. Great style of boxing. Just need the right individual to fit into the style.
Why doesn’t Teddy Atlas teach this style? I’m curious..
He’s work boxers in the professional ranks. I don’t expect them to change style cuz Teddy is in camp now. We know that wouldn’t work. But, I don’t think I seen any of them attempt a peekaboo technique?
It’s so great to train with your vids, love it Carter 🥊🥊🔥
Its honestly surprising that the style isnt completely gone considering how complicated the style really is. Its like a duning krufer effect the moment you take a while to learn the style from reputable sources like your self you understand truly how great the style is with all of its subtleties it goes to show how much there is to learn. Boxing truly is the game of the thinking man and this style especially requires intelligence. Also isnt fai faiva a peakaboo fighter? I understand shes relatively new but shes still leagues ahead of amateurs like me and others who look up to this channel
Who is fai faiva? I cant find it
@@isejehbewj theres an interview clip on this channel
I dont think it's that much harder than other ones, cuz for me it fits WAY better than any other one, I guess it's just a great coincidence.
(I'm a beginner btw, so I'm just guessing stuff according to my short experience, but... for some unknown reason, using Peekaboo, as a RIGHT HANDED SOUTHPAW.... makes me flow way more naturally. That's why it may not be harder, just very rare due to specific preferences)
it's also objectively an inefficient style since there are so many requirements to get it right. If you don't have the right proportions, athleticism, or fast twitch fibers, you're not going to get as much value out of it. A shorter fighter with a long torso and short legs will have slower dip + slip reset speeds compared to someone like Tyson who's torso to leg ratio are more even.
If you don't have the explosiveness to cover the distance when pushing off the rear foot in a square stance, you're not going to be able to close the gap.
And the demands on the legs, lower back, and cardio all add to the inefficiencies. For the vast majority of boxers, this style just doesn't make sense.
@@khyunwoo1 oh, now it makes a whole lot of sense, when I first started working out, I started doing squats every day LOL. Maybe that's why I feel comfortable with this style, it's very leg based.
Great Channel, keep up the good work, its really helpful. Thank you.
I love this Carter well done. Loved to hearing your opinion. I did not hear however you mention what we hear all the time that to be successful with the style you have to be built like Mike Tyson ? i.e short ; stocky etc. I do agree that the Peek a Boo style is the most effective boxing style. You mention 'The Master' who was this ? You mention about Teddy Atlas whom I do agree is a fantastic trainer and is still about. Why does he now not teach the Peek a Boo style ? Most of the fighters he has trained since leaving the gym has been traditional boxing style way ( Davy Moore; Plovetin ? I like what I am hearing about your goal though . I hope the style does not disappear as you have said you are the only trainer at the gym now teaching the style. I hope also that you produce champions using the Peek a Boos style and we see a champion very soon using the style
I'm up on ON, Canada. Do you guys have seminars or anything where you can come for a weekend and do some training?
Just found this channel, as an older guy, and fan of Mike and Floyd, I find this channel pretty freakin interesting!
Peekaboo fighting is a unique skill you need a special set of traits for it to work. The beauty of it is that it works for multiple approaches. Its very offensive natured attackers make for the peekaboo because you train to be so extremely defensive to compliment you natural offense. Patterson was a floaty outside striker from the peekaboo tyson was an explosive boulders from a cannon striker right inside of your defense. It is such an amazing style but it takes a special student.
The evolution of Carter Weber
You see Tyson at 60 and We don't want to believe it will happen to Me.
Life on earth is temporary. Even when hurt injured old broke We are still Alive. Have to fight until the end. Bitter pill to swallow knowing do Our best until the inevitable end. Cus rest in peace knowing there are Others
"Who Will Carry The Flag" and make it better.
I’ve been teaching myself the peakaboo style by watching your videos and practicing on my own. I feel like I’m doing good and have the power and explosiveness and potential. It’s a shame your gym is overseas
Its great to watch a fighter who can do it, do it. As Ryson did it, it was deadly.
How would you adjust this style for mma?
Good question
Pair it with wrestling and emphasis on elbows and knees from muay Thai. Close the distance while causing as much damage as possible. At least that makes sense in my head.
You would have to deal with kicks, especially leg kicks. So you would probably have to change the stance. Being an aggressive counter punching style, you would have to most likely make adjustments to deal with other things people would do that they can't do in boxing. It would end up looking very different, but so do wrestling and BJJ from their sports counterparts.
I wana say we met when Mike came to Cage Wars a couple of years ago! Love the video!
Some people excel in certain styles and develop them naturally. "Forcing yourself" into a particular style-which can be seen as a personal trait acceptable within the game rules-doesn't guarantee achieving the ultimate goal of winning the match or game.
Statements like "Learn Bruce Lee's style" or "Learn Michael Jordan's style" don't necessarily make someone a better athlete; they may only serve as inspiration, particularly for beginners.
wow, just came across this channel today. What knowledge. Awesome vids mate, keep it up.
Non compromised pendulum... thats a great book.
Yep, in high school when I was boxing, I read this book and had regular Q&A zoom calls with the authors. Since I’ve moved to the gym and learned from guys who learned directly from Teddy and Cus though, what I saw is that book actually has a ton of missing information in regards to the Cus style.
It’s a great start and has great illustrations though! Was clearly a labor of love.
@@peekabooboxingacademy Thats great.. The book was more centered towards psychology, the psychology that cus taught and how he got there, less of the physical part. He dedicated only two chapters to the physical because it was a book dedicated to his philosophy.
Could you make a video on how to move with the peekaboo style? Such as jabbing and moving with the peekaboo style and being on the offense with peekabo style.
I love the way you see the thing and talk about
Another great video! You're right on point: you have to master the basics, especially the leg work which is the foundation. You can't build a house from the top down; it starts from the bottom up. By the way, are you a Webb? I'm a Webb as well!
Thank you! I’m a Weber haha.
@peekabooboxingacademy Even better!
One day I will visit you in New York AND TEACH ME TO MASTER THIS STYLE! Why no one today wants to learn this fighting style? Because this takes a lot of energy, you always do leg training because the power of your punch will come from your legs and hips, you do a lot of side to side head movement, you do a lot of tiring practices and this aggressive way of fighting will tire you in a real fight! Not a lot of wanna-be hopeful boxers would want to train this hardcore to be good in this style!
can you please do a video on how to throw each punch in the peekabok stance i dont know how to jab and move at the same time if you understand what im trying to say
It's not gone.. it's in the peeking phase of Peekaboo
Julio Cesar Chavez did a variation of "peek a boo" also! He just wasn't a HW! Respect!
Thank you very much for the work you have done, for preserving the style of Cas d'Amato.I will watch and learn.
Everyone wanna look flashy by mimicking shoulder roll philly shell when 95% dont posses the reflex to do it
Got you to 1k likes my man
Isn't the Peakaboo incredibly defensive in nature. Mike and Cus were able to make it seem very aggressive because Mike was insanely athletic and dynamic with KO power in each strike. That's why its died down, bot many people can do it like Mike, and I'm sure it's also not a syle that's built for longevity. As soon as your lose a step or slow down, that'll be a career.
Credibility is in question here. No mention of Patterson and Torres, but there's a mysterious unnamed "master"? Downplaying the stamina necessary for the style when constant head movement is most essential to it. There's a reason Cus had success with the youngest fighters and that Mike couldn't use the style well as he aged
Besides Nic Hardley and Tom Patti, who are the other protégés of Cus?
Mike is the master of the style because, he is the youngest heavyweight champion ever and is of the goats of all time.
It’s just waiting to pop out when you least expect it.
Hi I'm just wondering why kevin rooney is never talked about? Is he still well enough for a interview? I heard he has demensia. I think all Mike's fans would love to hear how Kevin's doing, thanks
@@DavidCavers Kevin is in a care home unfortunately and has not been in the gym for well over a decade.
@@peekabooboxingacademy Did Mike ever reconcile with him like he did with Teddy Atlas ?
@peekabooboxingacademy sorry to hear that 😢
Carter, your such a great teacher. How can I get in touch for a planned trip to visit? My son is in boxing at 7yo and we're both huge Tyson fans and would love a visit and maybe talk about the possibilities of coaching! Thanks again for these awesome videos, great work!
Is the peekaboo style suited more toward the shorter fighter? Can it work for a taller, range oriented boxer?
Hi, what happened to Kevin Rooney?
he is unwell with dementia I believe 😢
I always have wondered if the peekaboo style could translate into MMA or kick boxing. Would adding kicks and elbows make it even more dangerous? Would the style be able to be adapted to MMA or kickboxing? For example all the head movements just lead you right into an elbow, knee or foot. Just curious.
rule 1 pick a style that fits you rule 2 learn other styles just incase you might need them to adapt to youre opponant,rule 3 sometimes just do freesyle just adapt and do whats needed even if its not a style.
the psychological rule is quat simple to me do youre best train in stamina and power and speed and ones youre in the ring nomatter who you got infront of you big or small nothing is ashured you both have equal chances it just depends on what you do.
Do you have a peakaboo style for MMA or kickboxing?
It's not just because it requires a lot of training and is still hard to master (and so no one is willing to put in the effort or resist the pressure of "badly imitating Tyson").
Cus never develop an answer to "wrestling" style boxing, e.g. Holyfield's tactic. Also there is no answer to another tactic, i.e. that of Lennox Lewis, which is "waiting" for you inside with an uppercut.
In short, speed is not enough to contrast such tactics. Peek a Boo works very well as a counter attack fighter, but as an offensive style it has at least those above mentioned weaknesses.
I'd be curious to know about others' opinions on this!
Thanks for the video! Best wishes
Would it be right to summarize this as "Every component in the peekaboo style needs to be carefully crafted before merging it together" opposed attempting to re-create the whole immediately from what is already present thus far?
You left out Kevin Rooney when discussing the great trainers? Why is that ?
@@Joelliott14 Kevin Rooney never developed anyone in the Cus style he simply maintained what was already created in Mike Tyson.
Half of this video is this guy saying custom Amato and Tony Atlas over and over again. There’s no talk about Jack Dempsey or the history of the style.
true words. Dempsey was the father of this style. close distance, make him miss, make him pay and all that by bobbing and weavig. with bad intentions and a perfect punching technique.
Yeah, this seems like more of a channel ad than an actual video about the style or any real breakdown.
Dempsey wasn't really peekaboo style in it's purity he was just a pure brawler and Tyson wanted to imitate his ferocity and his killer instinct. Dempsey is like Tyson without the refined technique.
@walmartian422 the dempsey roll is like the bonafide precursor to peekaboo imo. While i think its fair to say his style wasnt peekaboo, i also dont think you can mention it and not dempsey. Dempsey roll is to motocross as peekaboo is to supercross, if that makes sense... doubt you see one without the other even if theyre quite different.
“Custom Amato” lmao just go watch something else
Heavyweight boxers are on average 6 foot 4 to 6 foot 8. 245lbs pounds minimum.
There is little reason for them to expend the amount of energy it takes for the peekaboo style to work. Mike Tyson and even the late great Joe Frazier had to use it because they were always at a height disadvantage.
I feel like you need big strong forearms for this style of boxing in a street fight. Because when your hands are up and they punching you they’ll hit all arms
I would consider super middleweight Christian Mbili a modern day peekaboo style fighter.
Thoughts ?
How long would it take to master
Hey Carter I have a few questions, when do you think you will start training people more than twice a week, I’m thinking about taking a trip to Catskill. And when is the next training video coming out?
Who was the Master?
That mentored you?
Wasn't Rooney in the Gym after Teddy left?
Rooney was in but the gym wasnt the same after atlas left
@s8tn622 Rooney was with Cus for longer than Teddy and an active pro fighter.
Damn, what is that 8k subs in 2 weeks? Knew it would happen sometime soon
Can you do a video on how to use peek a boo as a taller fighter
It’s a cool style but damn it’s so energy demanding. I think everyone has tried to do it while messing around and quickly figured out how crazy it is to be practical. Mike was built different
It’s practical if you learn it the right way 🥊
@ agreed. With the right exercises and conditioning, anything is possible. But that’s a tall order haha.
Hey i love your Videos. Can you please do a Video about how to box as a taller peakaboo boxer. Which drills would you do very often, strategies, combinations,..
Great video bro
Heyy Carter, is there some store to order an official shirt?
like the movement after each punch
Watch Jose Torres, Floyd Patterson, and Mike Tyson all fought using peekaboo differently based on their physical abilities. If you are stocky and strong, watch Tyson. If slender, athletic, and have fast hands, watch Patterson. If you are neither, watch Torres.
I feel like I didn't learn anything form thsi video. How "should" one train in or teach peekaboo?
Hey carter are you giving private lessons on the style?
It vanished since mike tysons trainer and father figure past may he rest in peace
Would you ever wanna train and develop a high level fighter? Or do you only train for fun?
When Mike stopped moving his head, he stopped winning
I seen an old video of a little kid doing the peekaboo style in your gym, can you give us an update of what happened? He was good
Best is add some of the style that works for you. If you're a textbook fighter in any style, all someone has to do is know the weak spots and counters
There's a famous kickboxer whose name escapes me that incorporated peekaboo into his style to great effect, for instance.
This is why MMA is what it is - you never know exactly what's cooking in the goulash.
Mike Zambidis?
I like what your saying about teaching how they were taught as opposed to how they fought that holds true with so many things even the buddhas meditation technique that liberated the whole northern part of India but then people started adding to it and the efficacy diminished. I will say the one problem I noticed with this style is you can’t punch going backwards and to me that seems to limit you. Like Hagler could go back forward and so on like Ali as well and we saw when Tyson fought Holyfield, Evander went into him and didn’t back up and he was smaller as well now that might be because it was a different Tyson when he was younger he cut angles and so on but the people he was fighting looked like my Uncles in a bar fight. Holyfield on his 11th fight went 15 rounds with Dwight Muhammad. I also feel that peekaboo is better for shorter fighters but taller ones leave their stomach to open. Great video.
For shorter fighters, peek-a-boo, I MIGHT AGREE! But anyone can learn this style as long as they are willing to put in the gruelling work, length of training and to learn properly on how to use this in a real fight to be good using this style! If you are too tall against your shorter enemy like 7 inches taller, you will just have to adjust your distance and angle of punches. Peek-A-Boo is not only hooks and upper cuts, like every style, it have jabs and straight punches.
"most effective style"
It would be very hard to convince me that it's the best style for a guy with long reach.
Thomas Hearns style wouldn't be most effective for Mike Tyson and vice versa.
Ukrainian boxing school is the reason Peekaboo desappeared.
Peekaboo style is easy to deal with if you box in Ukrainian school. Which is technic, long distance, footwork, jab.
Peekaboo style is about mid-short distance and power. Disadvantage: slow on feet.
Ukrainian boxers box from the distance, they are all authomatically ligher on feet then a peekaboo boxer. So they hit him before he reach mid distance, then they step back to keep the distance again.
Jab and distance 10 rounds. Make him tired. Then they use a combination or right hand to finish.
Example: Wladimir Klitschko. He finished all peecaboo fighters with his jab and distance.
Usyk, Loma, Gvozdik, Berynchyk all Ukrainians box from the distance.
Well, when they move up in weight they became smaller then opponent and start to use peekaboo too.
Look at some Loma fights. Usyk vs Joshua and Fury (in some episodes he fights from the distance,in close range he fights peekaboo).
So this style is stil in use buy Ukrainian guys vs bigger opponent on a short distances
Pitbull cruz or issac Cruz use’s peekaboo and won the world title
NAH! Isaac Cruz is an in-fighter! Notice that he does not use more of his head to slip through punches. Look at the movement of his legs it is different than a real Peek-A-Boo boxer. Watch his training sessions he never trained like Mike!
@@awakenedsoul2638 You realize previous peek-a-boo style boxers before Tyson had their own spin to the style? Same with Philly shell style fighters are all different. Pitbull Cruz is both an infighter and peek-a-boo style boxer
@@TheBoxingRealm
Experts did not consider him to be. He is mostly an in-fighter. AGAIN, watch the video. Just because his stance is like Ippo Makunouchi's stance does not mean he box as Peek-A-Boo. His style is reminiscent from his Mexican Fellow Boxer Julio Caesar Chavez! Both an in-fighter, aggressive always and always throw many punches. Footwork, Headmovement, almost no jab, does not change strategy and have problems against boxers who have good jab and is an out boxer, Isaac have a hard time! You are forgetting the basics and fundamentals of boxing. Peek-A-Boo is not a style you can just mimic! It is no different than theshoulder roll that requires and ample amount of practice and time to effectively use it!
@@awakenedsoul2638 AGAIN CASUAL. Philly Shell fighters like Teofimo, Haney and Floyd Mayweather and even the boxer who created it all boxed differently in their own way casual. Chavez gaurd is more open and squared, same with Chavez stance, open and a bit squared. Pitbull's gaurd is covering his chin a peek-a-boo guard and a bit crouched. Peek-a-boo boxers before Mike Tyson evem existed, all boxed differently from Tyson. Mike Tyson said in his own words Pitbull Cruz today is the closest fighter to him stylistically. Ydksab
I think it isn't used cause most people in boxing who make it far these days fight in 2 or 3 weight classes under where they should be. They look for reach and size advantage and the peekaboo style is better for a shorter boxer who wants to close distance and get inside. If you have the advantages you want to box from the outside and use a jab and straight hands.
Hi. Carter, how can I contact you directly regarding training?