Why Topspin Had Leadfoot's Head In Transformers The Last Knight

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  • @Hyung_Boi
    @Hyung_Boi 3 месяца назад +126

    The fact this mystery wasnt still solved after many years is crazy

  • @twister107
    @twister107 3 месяца назад +264

    Here’s a better question: is Rodrigo Roadbuster? Roadbuster is the only wrecker we don’t know the fate of.

    • @Dimithri967
      @Dimithri967 3 месяца назад +5

      I think so

    • @NiCoNiCoNiCola
      @NiCoNiCoNiCola 3 месяца назад

      ​@TornadomusPrime47 Isn't Cuba(?) the only country that safeguards Transformers? Hell, Rodrigo could actually be Roadbuster's name post wreckers

    • @CinemaSans
      @CinemaSans 3 месяца назад +8

      Rodrigo who?

    • @Chaosgodthekiller
      @Chaosgodthekiller 3 месяца назад +13

      ​@@CinemaSans the vuy that topspin don't like to hang out with

    • @loganmorales5568
      @loganmorales5568 3 месяца назад +22

      Considering he wasnt listed as deceased in Aoe, i dont think hes dead. I always assumed he was the bot topspin was playing vollyball with

  • @Pigpen_YT
    @Pigpen_YT 3 месяца назад +89

    Surprised you didn't bring this up but Topspin was originally going to have lines in the film. At least according to a newspaper from Idaho in January 2011. It mentions that Bill Fagerbakke was going to voice a "Chevy Impala stock car" in the film. And seeing how he didn't actually voice anyone in the movie and the only wrecker to not speak was Topspin, this seems to at least imply Topspin was going to be voiced by Bill Fagerbakke. You can find a link to the newspaper on Topspin's trivia section on tfwiki. Great video regardless!

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 месяца назад +27

      That is something I wanted to put in, however I left it put since I didn't know where to put it 👍

    • @starseeker5231
      @starseeker5231 2 месяца назад +1

      Bill Fagerbakke? So they were going to have Topspin say "Is Mayonnaise an instrument?"

  • @Ryder-a-Blaze
    @Ryder-a-Blaze 3 месяца назад +36

    The wreckers were very underused in the movies they should of had more screen time, but at least Topspin (and maybe Roadbuster) is still alive.

  • @aidenmarch3447
    @aidenmarch3447 3 месяца назад +20

    My theory is that Topspin was possibly severely wounded by Cementary Wind, mostly his face. They would probably aim for the eyes to blind him so that he could be easier to take down. He might escaped from them. And hid somewhere in South Dakota. Due to him being blinded, he couldn’t scan a new vehicle mode. He was then found by Cade and the Autobots, who took him in the repair him.
    At the Junkyard, you can see mounts for decapitated heads. I believe that these could be used for repairs. Leadfoot’s head was possibly there as well, or Hound stole it from KSI when he and the others stormed the corporate building in AOE. Cade could’ve replaced Topspin's head with Leadfoots, or at least used some of Leadfoot’s facial parts. After the repairs, Topspin could've moved to Cuba, where he could be safe.

  • @UserQs134s5
    @UserQs134s5 3 месяца назад +17

    This, unlike other theories does make sense, Great job Theorymus 👏

  • @amgprod.55
    @amgprod.55 3 месяца назад +14

    The first time I’m watching this channel in months and it’s one of the biggest questions I’ve had with the movies? Serendipity

  • @julianvillarreal1450
    @julianvillarreal1450 3 месяца назад +24

    Nice explaining. We also don’t know what happened to Roadbuster after Dark Of The Moon. Leadfoot was killed by Cemetery Wind as it was shown in a drone video footage.

    • @darkzoyt9094
      @darkzoyt9094 3 месяца назад +1

      i remember roadbuster had a kill card and it says he is dead or something like that idk... plus there's no way he survived, the wreckers probably split up after cemetery wind started hunting down the autobots... this is proven by the fact that leadfoot was along when he met his demise and there's no way topspin would have survived if they were all together, he probably wouldn't just run away leaving his comrades behind and lockdown would literally destroy them

  • @360degressboy
    @360degressboy 3 месяца назад +18

    Salute topspin for honoring his fallen fellow wrecker brothers

  • @mort8660
    @mort8660 3 месяца назад +1

    I have been supporting this channel since 2017 on multiple accounts
    I took a long break from transformers content
    Glad to be back to see how much this channel grew starting from Trans Theories to Theorymus
    🎉🎉🎉

  • @everettparker1313
    @everettparker1313 3 месяца назад +3

    This Truly was an Awesome Video for Topspin and Leadfeat.

  • @BiplashSupremacy
    @BiplashSupremacy 3 месяца назад +3

    Typical Theorymus cooking us a 5 star theory video🔥🔥🔥

  • @Boomer816
    @Boomer816 3 месяца назад +5

    I personally would like to believe that Vollybot is Topspin with his head reformatted to look like Leadfoots to honor him and Roadbuster is Rodrigo him being still alive

  • @Ryder-a-Blaze
    @Ryder-a-Blaze 3 месяца назад +10

    Leadfoot is Big Smoke as a Transformer

  • @christianparrish3292
    @christianparrish3292 3 месяца назад +5

    Good morning everyone. I've been waiting for this question to be answered.

  • @ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730
    @ansemthetrueseekerofdarkne2730 3 месяца назад +4

    I would like to think that "Rodrigo" is just a nickname for Roadbuster who also survived the purge and is chilling in Cuba with Topspin and Mirage.

  • @bokctwochains_g684
    @bokctwochains_g684 3 месяца назад +3

    I do think that's in the topspin if you look at the smoke stacks they look similar like the one in dark of the moon the number 48 on the door where the shoulder is located so yeah he definitely honors leadfoot fasho even i luv leadfoot too🤟🏾💯

  • @onetrackmind3558
    @onetrackmind3558 3 месяца назад +4

    Here's my theory. He is Topspin and he changed his head to look like Leadfoot. Reason why he never talked in DOTM is because he didn't have a working voice box anymore, similar to how Bumblebee lost his. But the reason why we never heard him speak like Bumblebee is because he doesn't have a radio. He is a Nascar in DOTM, as for in TLK it looks like he still is but he could have had his voice box fixed a while ago or in the process of changing his head it had fixed his voicebox.

  • @CommanderRadix
    @CommanderRadix 3 месяца назад +1

    That's a really great explanation!

  • @ChaseProductions18
    @ChaseProductions18 3 месяца назад +4

    Perfect timing I just got ss topspin

  • @fearless144
    @fearless144 2 месяца назад

    Theorymus your videos keep getting more crazy as well as mind blowing when it comes to the bayverse: all your videos over the years is like a big case file in the transformers fanbase community keep it up man, we are loving it.
    Could you do a video on the origins of Optimus Prime's energon swords & axe as well as how they operate when he's using them in battle.

  • @DillonTrinhProductions
    @DillonTrinhProductions 3 месяца назад +2

    Nice video as always Theorymus!

  • @treebotreviews
    @treebotreviews 3 месяца назад +1

    Having my knowledge of the bayverse as I do, I find it hilarious that this is my most anticipated video from you😂 I’ve been dying to know this

  • @StevenWatters
    @StevenWatters 3 месяца назад +3

    Imo, I'm just going with the first one, and saying Topspin just shape-shifted his head to honor his fallen NASCAR Cup Series Weaponized COT Brother-in-Arms Leadfoot... Rest in peace to Juan Pablo Montoya's car. 🙏🏻❤🕯🕊

  • @muhammadhabibieamiro3639
    @muhammadhabibieamiro3639 3 месяца назад +6

    Another short and nice video

  • @Skywarpandthundercrackerfanboy
    @Skywarpandthundercrackerfanboy 3 месяца назад +7

    I agree with that volleybot is topspin only question is how did he avoid lockdown and cemetery wind

    • @yi_hou3092
      @yi_hou3092 3 месяца назад +4

      The Incident in Mexico, Top Spin was probably able to escape Lockdown and Cemetery Wind since Optimus did give the Order to Scatter and not trust Humans
      Also Geographically Top Spin probably stopped around Louisiana or Florida before escaping to Cuba

    • @Skywarpandthundercrackerfanboy
      @Skywarpandthundercrackerfanboy 3 месяца назад

      @@yi_hou3092 possible or e was present in the ambush that got leadfoot killed

  • @kiryu7853
    @kiryu7853 3 месяца назад +3

    Maybe Topspin's head file was corrupted and a replacement was used, Leadfoot's head. And in the movie I assume that Topspin asked Ratchet during the repair to look like his dead friend.

  • @gavinkailey527
    @gavinkailey527 3 месяца назад +2

    I always thought that topsin had frown a beard or something, sentinel prime and hound have beards. I like the in-universe reason you came up with it

  • @cobaltwolf9
    @cobaltwolf9 3 месяца назад +2

    I remember reading somewhere that Topspin had grown out facial hair to honor Leadfoot

  • @patriotshadow1601
    @patriotshadow1601 3 месяца назад +2

    It makes sense although im surprised that rest of his body still look same i figured he wants to hide from cemetery wind it would make sense he have a different vehicle mode

  • @LightningZetton
    @LightningZetton 3 месяца назад +1

    A transformer with the same body and new head feels so g1-ish and that's cool. There were so many characters in that series that have the same body type but new colors and new personality as well as design

  • @CinemaSans
    @CinemaSans 3 месяца назад +5

    Honestly, they should have used Roadbuster's head, it's more similar to Topspin.

  • @mingfanzhang8927
    @mingfanzhang8927 3 месяца назад +2

    A bit unrelated but I really enjoyed the wreckers from the Bayformers dispite their lack of screen time and would love to see them transform into the same weaponized nascar in the reboot, or at the very least a weaponized f1 race car. Now I know that the reboot is trying to make it realistic by not having everyone transform into a sport car 🚘 to make the “robot in disguise” work but they can’t make a exception for the wrecker by making them a distraction for the rescue mission. For example, they could have rescue mission where they need to rescue (insert name) but they don’t want to expose themselves so they can send the wrecker first and since people don’t usually don’t expect to see a race cars on the street (let alone a weaponized version of them) it would surely attract attention from the (insert bad guys). And after they got their attention that when the rest of the Autobot comes and save whoever they were going to save

  • @Jacko75041
    @Jacko75041 3 месяца назад +2

    I dont want to call the animators lazy because in the last knight the work they did was amazing but i do think this might be the answer to this debate because perhaps one of them thought that by using two different autobot models and putting them together they could just pass it off as a new autobot

  • @TransformersRocks1YT
    @TransformersRocks1YT 3 месяца назад +2

    Maybe Topspin Just Changed His Name To Volleybot Just Like How (Like You Said) With Payload & Scrapper Becoming Trench & Canopy?

  • @Achieme
    @Achieme 3 месяца назад +2

    I still have a minor issue for the in universe of topspin's head being leadfoot's head. Yes laserbeak can change to look like other TF like bee but I excuse that being that laserbeak being able to have multiple transformations because he's smaller.
    Like Frenzy for example he has multiple transformations as well and it could be possible that he can transform into other TF characters (if he was still alive of course)

  • @PhelesDragon
    @PhelesDragon 3 месяца назад +2

    So this has been my theory for years and it’s super deep-nerd, so brace yourselves:
    When Leadfoot was being hunted by Cemetery Wind, he was actually drawing the enemy humans away from his other Wrecker teammates. Since the scene of Leadfoot’s death is cut off in AoE, we can add fanon, and I posit that against Leadfoot’s orders, Topspin, unable to leave his leader behind to die alone, turned back and engaged Cemetery Wind. Unfortunately, Leadfoot had already been severely damaged. Topspin still fought to reach his friend and took a Lockdown missile to the head, destroying much of it but not killing him. Leadfoot, barely functional, began moving his parts around, replacing the vocal unit in his head with his Spark chamber, then detaching his own head for the damaged Topspin to narrowly escape with.
    Once in hiding again, the two would combine their remaining parts, Topspin’s body and vocal unit with Leadfoot’s head and Spark chamber, becoming a new character with Topspin’s voice (what we hear in TLK) and the Sparks of both Transformers. Best friends in one life now joined together in this new one.
    In this scenario, Cemetery Wind would still have Leadfoot’s body, so Cade’s line about them “taking him off” and Leadfoot’s body being dismembered in Lockdown’s ship isn’t contradictory to my head canon.

  • @MogusMasterSaikawa22
    @MogusMasterSaikawa22 3 месяца назад +1

    very cool video it's always cool to see how minor things like this people may attribute it to reusing assets but sometimes there's more of a story to it than you'd expect haiosdf

  • @rainbowracer9576
    @rainbowracer9576 3 месяца назад +2

    Awesome Job!✨🙌

  • @bradmemmo3118
    @bradmemmo3118 3 месяца назад +2

    Could do what if ShockWave survied next

  • @SpringBUNZ
    @SpringBUNZ 3 месяца назад +3

    I searched who Rodrigo is and the only thing that would pop up was roadbuster, also maybe if Rodrigo is roadbuster topspin must probably hate him because roadbuster left him during AOE. But I don’t know that’s just my theory.

  • @justanotherplayer1923
    @justanotherplayer1923 3 месяца назад +3

    love all your videos

  • @arctrooperblitz416
    @arctrooperblitz416 3 месяца назад +1

    @that toy geek he made a what if ratchet survived in stop motion based off your story

  • @unstoppabot
    @unstoppabot 3 месяца назад +2

    I'ma say something else just in case, I think it's neat but what about this? The wreckers are probably supposed to stay together, what if road buster ( one of his weopons being a chainsaw) cut of leadfoots head before cemetery wind could get them, and topspin sacrificed himself to keep leadfoots alive, explaining why if Rodrigo is road buster, explaining why beachbot/leadfoot/ topspin, hates him, because he he sacrificed one of them to keep the other alive...just my own pov

  • @Convoy2005SPIH
    @Convoy2005SPIH 3 месяца назад +2

    I feel like I are in one big loop because you already talked about this and this is not the only time you do this because you do a lot of times something you make an example and then you prove to how you think it true only for you in few days or months later you change your mind completely like for example can devastator kill Optimus Prime or not or is blackout and grindor are the same bot

  • @EnzomusPrime
    @EnzomusPrime 3 месяца назад +1

    I love how you ended with the most plausible answer: Volleybot/Topspin was just part of the needless confusion spawned by this mess of a movie. 😆😆 Love your vids!!

  • @RedthegamingZoroark
    @RedthegamingZoroark 3 месяца назад +2

    I actually never knew that Topspin actually had Dreadlocks

  • @ryanenzokana3584
    @ryanenzokana3584 3 месяца назад +5

    The end was a bar

  • @GermanFFreddy
    @GermanFFreddy 3 месяца назад +2

    If they didn't want to make a new bot, then why did they tweak Leadfoot's head, because Topspin in TLK has these red horns that Leadfoot never had, but Paramount could've did what Disney did with Captain Rex, because in ROTJ, when the Rebels are going after the shield generator, there is and old man in their ranks, and the next time the group is shown, he's wearing Stormtrooper armor, and people had a head canon where that was Rex, mainly because in Rebels, he was old, and stated that he liked to sometimes wear Stormtrooper armor, and a higher up at Disney said "why can't that old rebel in the armor be Rex?"", so it may just be a head canon that was made reality. But that's just my thought, like you said, he could've been a new character, but Paramount retconned it, and you also forgot to mention how Bee changed his ENTIRE BODY to spite KSI and Stinger, or how when Prime takes the sword in AOE, he changes his arm armor to make it look more like knight's armor. But I have a theory as to how they can do this, their T-cog is a small cog that allows them to transform, its full name is Transformation cog, and they use it the same way when they scan an alt-mode. And the same can be said as to why in the aligned continuity, LITERALLY NO DESIGN IS CONSTANT, Grimlock is grey and yellow in Cyberverse, but in RID, he is green and can't talk, and in TFA, Bumblebee is small and has an lack stripe, but in TFP, he looks like his Bayverse iteration, MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!!!!

  • @biscuitboy2012
    @biscuitboy2012 3 месяца назад +1

    HONEY WAKE UP, THEORYMUS POSTED!!!!

  • @omegaus817
    @omegaus817 3 месяца назад +1

    Volleybot, aka Topspin, just do some sign language. *In my head canon in the Bayformers film.* You are close, I will go with the theory that Topspin honors Leftfoot without changing his looks, Wreckers stay together, and they call for clean up. Just a different voice and different accent. Hopefully, a 3rd party company or probably the Studio series will make Volleybot aka Topspin someday. Thanks for the video buddy.

  • @Nuggetboy2811
    @Nuggetboy2811 3 месяца назад +1

    I will always eat while watching these videos

  • @deaththekid7626
    @deaththekid7626 3 месяца назад +2

    Soo...Is Topspin basically a Cubone, He's Wearing One of His Friend's Head

  • @kanohihorder1228
    @kanohihorder1228 3 месяца назад +4

    It's Transformers The Last Knight that's your answer

  • @DominikGordon-h2s
    @DominikGordon-h2s 3 месяца назад +1

    Love your videos can you pls do a video of where daytrader was in the other transformers movies

  • @quintessaprime245
    @quintessaprime245 3 месяца назад

    From what I've researched, ratchet gathered all the wreckers after their deaths and made vollybot because there was still technically life in them, before cemetary wind killed ratchet

  • @ZipperPSGameplays
    @ZipperPSGameplays 3 месяца назад +1

    I have a video idea, something no one has ever addressed. In Transformers 2007, in the scene where Optimus us telling what happened to Sam's Great great Grandfather, when he slides into the cave where Megatron is. Why does it look like Megatron's arm is on fire. This is something that has always puzzled me.

  • @meat1939
    @meat1939 3 месяца назад +2

    I think it’s just really came down to we needed a gimmick type character so use an old character model and touch him up a bit. The films can be pretty cheap to cut on corners like for us fans it should just be top spin with his original head but obviously bay and the team didn’t think that much about it.

  • @M.A.S.K._Crusader
    @M.A.S.K._Crusader 3 месяца назад +6

    CALLING ALL AUTOBOTS

    • @venom-123
      @venom-123 3 месяца назад +2

      CALLING ALL AUTOBOTS

  • @carsongrover9924
    @carsongrover9924 3 часа назад

    How did they manage to keep the secret of the Transformers after the battle of Mission City? You should do a video on that

  • @MrMech73
    @MrMech73 3 месяца назад +1

    2:59 There is a full render of the second image on the internet

  • @kingremix6111
    @kingremix6111 3 месяца назад +2

    What if both leadfoot and topspin were hunted down and killed and melted down into ksi bots and after the china battle were fused together along side other bots to show respect to the autobots by bring their friends back

  • @ZirconiumLover
    @ZirconiumLover 3 месяца назад +1

    Did you make your intro yourself? it's very cool

  • @billy-jr3jn
    @billy-jr3jn 3 месяца назад +2

    The reason why topspin has Leadfoot head is because that ksi and lockdown hunt them but lockdown though he was dead topspin was really injured he can’t move but ratchet finds topspin and use the wreckers parts to heal topspin

  • @Tona10186
    @Tona10186 3 месяца назад +1

    Off-topic comment, but I see in every video I watch lmao

  • @Swiftanium
    @Swiftanium 3 месяца назад +1

    Me: hey Theorymus wanna go buy some Transformers figures?
    Therorymus: Nah, I got a video to make. Too busy.
    Me: He's always busy🤪

  • @ZAPPERBLAST
    @ZAPPERBLAST 3 месяца назад +2

    Can you make a video about the rescue bots? I know that is a weird request, but can you please

  • @bosshogg7327
    @bosshogg7327 3 месяца назад

    Hey I got a new theory i just thought of that you may want to look into. Autobot canopy from the last knight was originally a decepticon. Compare the pics of him and decepticon Payload

  • @scarface406
    @scarface406 3 месяца назад +1

    Ye know i genuinely wish I sometimes was a Cybertronian

  • @Pres.Concept
    @Pres.Concept 3 месяца назад +2

    Nice vid!

  • @Riya-qw4jr
    @Riya-qw4jr 3 месяца назад +1

    notice at :1:34 there was a g1 arcee

  • @amyawolford
    @amyawolford 3 месяца назад

    I got no idea, I just enjoyed the video

  • @KK-sf4xy
    @KK-sf4xy 3 месяца назад

    Here’s an idea: What happened to Optimus Primes energon axe and energon sword after DOTM?? During AOE and TLN they get replaced by the Sword of Judgement.

  • @BUNNYMAN780
    @BUNNYMAN780 2 месяца назад

    There is a small Sean in dark of the moon when the nest team is trying to take out shockwave they say he is on the run just like what they said when hunting ratchet

  • @Banzitr0n
    @Banzitr0n 3 месяца назад

    Theorymus my theory is that topspin was hunted down but ended escaping and coming around leadfoots body parts remaining such as his head so he used leadfoots parts to rebuild himself and stayed undercover heading to the location he was in the movie to be taken care of

  • @Darksteal_675
    @Darksteal_675 3 месяца назад +1

    Random question What happened to the hatchings in dotm the ones megatron was feeding in africa?????

  • @renereissig-hochweller3228
    @renereissig-hochweller3228 3 месяца назад

    Hey quick question is it possible for you to make a video on concept art characters from the bayverse film that were cut where you would essentially show their art and think of how they could have been because there are so many cool concept characters that you could show like the mi 24 bot whose art you showed in the dotm thundercracker video that would be cool thanks in advance!

  • @aliciabrisco1053
    @aliciabrisco1053 3 месяца назад +3

    Theorymus what happened to Roadbuster

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 месяца назад +2

      Based on the kill cards, he survived the Cemetery wind attack

  • @juliusfernandezhermosa5322
    @juliusfernandezhermosa5322 3 месяца назад +1

    Bro You Forgot road buster. Leadfoot head and roadbuster arm convert to top spin = Volleybot

  • @StephaniePeli
    @StephaniePeli 3 месяца назад +2

    That’s weird. They’re probably trying to save money.

  • @s.r.a.d.p.l
    @s.r.a.d.p.l 3 месяца назад +1

    I love your videos

  • @stadic5311
    @stadic5311 3 месяца назад +1

    I’d just assume it was an error on the fan poles end due to laziness.

  • @amarecudjoe9501
    @amarecudjoe9501 3 месяца назад

    Imo it looks bad ass though especially how they merged the two colors

  • @FireFlies002
    @FireFlies002 3 месяца назад

    The Last Knight was 7 years ago and Theorymus is still making theories about the bayverse.

  • @itbee2461
    @itbee2461 3 месяца назад +1

    Do ah video of
    What happen to the wreckers

  • @The_real_Haakskbsssblox
    @The_real_Haakskbsssblox 3 месяца назад +1

    Another cool video

  • @venom-123
    @venom-123 3 месяца назад +1

    But then whats stupid is that liutenant the old little jetfire looking autobot at cogmans castel had leadfoots head too but died as soon as the cops arived

  • @largeformatmaster2994
    @largeformatmaster2994 3 месяца назад +2

    Now another question to answer is: Who won the volleyball game in The Last Knight? Lol.

  • @Baqar96TA
    @Baqar96TA 3 месяца назад +1

    I didn’t even notice this lmao.

  • @ChaseMacGillivary-qy1ln
    @ChaseMacGillivary-qy1ln 3 месяца назад

    Love you bro 😎👍

  • @Dimithri967
    @Dimithri967 3 месяца назад +1

    Best video ever!

  • @christianparrish3292
    @christianparrish3292 3 месяца назад +2

    Why does nitro have two voice actors, John DiMaggio and whoever Steven Bark is?

    • @Theorymus
      @Theorymus  3 месяца назад +2

      Some of the werid choices TLK made

    • @christianparrish3292
      @christianparrish3292 3 месяца назад

      @@Theorymus I prefer John DiMaggio as Nitro Zeus.

  • @darkzoyt9094
    @darkzoyt9094 3 месяца назад +2

    no epic outro? that's really sad...

  • @akeemgee8853
    @akeemgee8853 3 месяца назад +2

    His name still Topspin.

  • @cool12jack
    @cool12jack 3 месяца назад +2

    Very interesting

  • @surajofclans
    @surajofclans 2 месяца назад +1

    Brother I have some infomation about transformers future which I want to share to you please 🥺

  • @BanditStopMotions
    @BanditStopMotions 3 месяца назад +1

    0:23 tlk summerized

  • @cybernetixrepublic7391
    @cybernetixrepublic7391 3 месяца назад +2

    what if leadfoot was a headmaster and attach to topspin body ?

  • @Gojigojiboji
    @Gojigojiboji 3 месяца назад

    Imagine just driving around to your job just to see a gaint robot whining trying to tell someone to play basketball .

  • @TheKraken-we6ji
    @TheKraken-we6ji 3 месяца назад

    I always wondered what if shockwave survived in dark of the moon