Pastor Reacts to “Su!cIde” by Ren
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- Many of you had requested this song, and I no longer wonder why. Ren sings about the toll his friends suicide has on himself. If only I was there, if only I was faster, if only I could join him? Bottom line, he misses his friend. Death is the most permanent form of separation we can experience, which is why Jesus came, so that we would not be separated from God, spiritually dead forever. As a church we need to love those struggling with thoughts of suicide, those left with the wounds of a loved one taking their life. We need to love with more than words, but in deed and truth. Thank you again to Ren for sharing with us.
Join Pastor Matt as he listens to Ren for the first time, performing “Su!cIde.”
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Pastor Matt is the Lead Pastor at McMicken Heights Church in Washington state. A graduate of Simpson University with a degree in Christian Ministry and Leadership. He also enjoys gaming, particularly battle royale.
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As someone who suffers from severe chronic depression, the message in this track has served to keep me alive. I have been to the precipice numerous times, but have yet to take the final step. I appreciate your reaction to this one, thank you. To follow this one up, you should check out "For Joe"
Keep the fight going you matter. Life can be hard but it can also be great live for the good moments.
Watch Joe
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Stay strong 💪
I will second "For Joe" as well. As raw as this is, with all the negativity that comes with the loss, it starts with the last verse of this song... but the rest is much more of how that affected his life... it honors Joe more than explain Ren's relationship with suicide. If this song exposes the reality of the pain, For Joe exposes how to move on and still love those you lost.
Glad you are here to chat.
Paster Matt
At near 70 yrs old, years I haven’t been able to cry for years… life seemed to be heart break after heart break. Until Ren. God bless and protect him.
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I hear you Jess, this year Ren has given me all the emotions I never thought I'd feel again. That relief of being able to cry again was immense, and carried some healing and opened up doors inside me that should never have been shut.
Initially I had to gradually introduce his music, as no idea of what wave of unexpected emotions would hit.
I've felt more this year than in the previous 7 years combined.
More hope, joy, excitement, grief, empathy, celebration, recognition, inspiration, mirth... it is so good to have my emotions back, so incredible.
I likened discovering Ren to having a doctor discover a deep abscess in my body, one that could have burst and been life threatening. Then performing a minor surgery to clean all the poison and toxicity within. That abscess had dangerous bacteria, but also my healing protective white blood cells. My whole body was reacting to fight it without me knowing.
I'm 43 so have almost a decade with minimal abilty to really feel emotions was a big thing.
It's given meaning back to my life. Some may not understand the value of crying; but for us who had lost the ability it's a gift to be given it back. Sending you much love and healing
Such pure reaction. It takes a strong man to hold the tears in but it takes a even stronger man to let it out.
The first part of this song is actually about Rens own thoughts of suicide but after Joe did take his life Ren realised that doing it would distroy his family and friends, he always said that the song felt unfinished so he added the last part for Joe, this always gets me, thanks for your honest reaction ❤ from the UK
As a suicide survivor I felt a kinship with the lyrics "Falling through the cracks of the night sky". Feeling like, in some ways, we have just fallen through the cracks of the Earth and everyone in it, because we no longer feel interaction or part of life and it's progression. Feeling like we've dropped through and now we just are in stasis, existing while everyone we love is part of God's plan. Thankfully, my chronic illness did improve, God helped guide the doctors hands and give me treatments that aided in my improvement. I do still struggle with those thoughts on bad days. But God helped me, and helped me see that even if it's years, it was only a moment (making me think a day is as a thousand years in God's eyes.) of my life. But also give me empathy for others that might still be in the throws of that stasis, of feeling forgotten. I pray for them, and thank you for your prayers as well, Pastor. Wonderful reaction to such a moving song.
So happy for you to finally get some help and relief. The Lord has done many things for me and kept me humble. He wants us to put everything on his back because he will carry it for us.
Thanks for being so kind and so open
Your gentleness must be a real help
for those who know you.
Loved your thoughts
Ren has a song For Joe which is a follow-up to this one and is a good idea to watch
He shared some of the money with Joe's family and played it to them first
Also donated 21000 to the RNLI volunteers who helped look for Joe and were a comfort to Joes friends and family in the process
Thank you for sharing. I did not anticipate the tears that would be shed today in the reading of comments. Glad to hear what the Lord is doing in your life.
I am a suicide survivor myself. I can't imagine the horror my mom had finding my lifeless body in the garage with the car running. I felt alone.. I felt worthless...but God never left me...and I am valuable in His eyes. I guess in the end, the only opinion that really matters is that if God
I Love Ren
"There is no rainbow in the soul when there are no tears" Quote by a Native Indian
I cried with you friend ❤🩹
crying is a healing to our soul. im 65 and crying in private has keep me humble & thankful for everything & everyone.🥰
It's so important that Ren gives us the space to cry, and each and every person who helps extend that loving permission to others helps contribute to the kind of world where people can reach out before they leave. Songs like this, and reactions like yours, will help people choose to stay. ❤
You put that so beautifully. Well said @MissMeKate and so true.
What a beautiful comment. Thank you. ❤
appreciate the genuine, heartfelt reaction. the beginning half of this song is Ren's own struggle with those thoughts and how even though he contemplated it it never felt like the right time. the latter half is about Joe's suicide and how it effected him as a friend who was left behind and the guilt he felt for not seeing it coming and literally getting there just a few minutes too late to stop it. For Joe is the follow up, that begins with the latter part of this song and then turns it in a positive direction; seeing that might lift you a little as well, when you feel up to dealing with how it begins.
My Mom committed suicide 10 years ago. It took 20 days to find her . I completely fell apart 😢. Suffering from chronic pain and other issues I hit a terrible depression. I then tried the unthinkable myself but it wasn’t my time. I still live with pain like described in Seven Sins but I’m fighting the depression. Pastor, thank you for your reaction and also telling me that My Mom is hopefully in Heaven as she never committed the unforgivable 😢
Know that when you see that I hit the heart button on your comment that it was not because I "loved" what you said, but because I want to just give you a hug.
Your mum is definitely in the afterlife, huge hugs Darling x life can be so cruel, I hope you find the absolute joy too xxx
This album is a spiritual cleansing. It is anger, sadness, happiness, silliness, pain, and love. It is a life rolled into musical composition. Anyone who does not "like" Ren's music is numb to reality and has no concept of what art is for.
❤👍🇬🇧 30 years ago I lost two friends (ages 28 and 40) so unexpectedly in this way within the space of 9 months, no know reasons, no notes. This song leaves me in tears every time. I’m 62 and find myself back in the emotions and confusion of that time half my life later.
I am not a man of faith in sense of the matter, but I do enjoy reading certain scriptures. The one that I never read about but only ever heard from people of faith was the seriousness of suicide within Catholicism.
I have lost people close to me who took their own life who were people who devoted themselves to god and it really broke me knowing they had such devote beliefs but still felt so burdened to commit such an act against their beliefs.
Knowing you said that you believe to be true that suicide is not the unforgivable act but the rejection of gods gift and knowing they never lost their faith or rejected life brings me some comfort.
They were just two people who were dealt unfortunate and cruel upbringings and just sought comfort.
Little edit: i really enjoyed your reaction. Keep up the good work
My daughter almost fell thru the cracks of the night sky......
3 weeks after Ren dropped this song,my 30 yr old daughter tried to jump from a suspension bridge over the Delaware River. As I sped along in the back of the police car,praying to get to her in time, the lyrics of this song ran thru my mind.......
"What it felt like to look down and see tranquility.
One sudden movement in a world of possibilities.
Only one movement to expose our fragility."
Luckily,we got to her. I was able to pull her back from the edge,hug her and tell her that everything is fine...and she got the help she needed and is doing SO well now. Just had a baby boy 2 weeks ago❤ I dont think I could have survived it if I hadn't gotten there in time,and can only imagine the weight of the grief Ren lives with💔
That line, "dig deep resist the feeling when it hits you", just says so much 😢
The more I come to learn the nature God, I realize his perfect love for all and how much he loves these broken souls. We all hope for peace for those we have loved and lost, so a loving God would want that for each of us and more. ❤
Yes our loving God is always there, it's up to us to call out for help and mean it in our hearts. Sometimes the help and answers are not immediate but in God's time. Others think he is not there because the answers are not instant but he is. Don't give up.
I can’t imagine Ren’s pain … he was running.. running to try and find Joe and save him and got there too late. The absolute torture you would put yourself through after that 😢
Great reaction ❤
Thank you 🙏❤ Pastor Matt ❤ for your 🐷 Ren - Suicide reaction! And thank you for calling it by name although that might de-monetise your video. #ren #suicide #sickboialbum #1uk
It has a prequel "Freckled Angels" from 7 years ago, and a sequel "For Joe" from this Summer. Also notably "How To Be Me (live)" and How To Be Me calls it, and many other Ren songs touch the subject, too.
Freckled Angels and For Joe are actually uplifting, at least in my experience. This song leaves you with Ren's sorrow, in a dark place. The first half is almost joyful, has a great beat and you may be tempted to sing "Suicide, suicide, suicide, suicide." Or "it never felt like the right time", or "resist the feeling when it hits you". Like a hit song. It is what a personal dealing with the idea may be. Not to do it, it bereaves you of the way up, the chance for any better future in this life.
Then comes the second half. But watching Ren cry while delivering the story of Joe Hughes' demise, is so disheartening. What it is like to be bereaved by someone you love.
REN is once in a generation legendary artist of epic proportions.
You need to watch For Joe - its the follow up to this part of Ren journey - It leaves one on the side of hope . It’s very healing . Ideally reacting to Suicide and For Jo together is comforting .
Thank you for your genuine reaction. Please react to Ren - Money game 3. Trust me it's a masterpiece!
Not crying is what I feel would be abnormal in a reaction to this artistic expression of the harshness of life, experienced in the first person by someone who has lost someone so close to them in this way.
It's a punch in the stomach that forces us to look at this problem head on. We cannot afford to look the other way when someone next to us is suffering so much that they do or are about to do the "unthinkable".
And it's so easy to give a hug!...
Thanks for the reaction.
Extremely powerful reaction. Made me shed a tear too even though i must have seen/heard this song a hundred times.
Ive suffered from treatment resistant clinical depression and suicidal ideation since I was a teenager. I survived a suicide attempt at 20. There are two song I use to find catharsis. This, and Fallen Angel by Mass of Man. Every day is a fight against myself. i just turned 42. I don't know you, and I can say honestly that I've not had pleasant experiences with organized religion (i got thrown out of a church for saying I wasn't sure what I believed). But thank you for showing your true emotions, and for that prayer. even for a non believer like me, it means a lot, and very obviously came from the heart. Much love.
Visceral and chills every time I hear that last part too buddy. Dealing with a suicide in my family a month ago this song helped me heal a lil bit with helping me grieve
I was 13 years old when my childhood innocence was robbed from me. One of my best friends, more like a brother to me and all my siblings, was brutally and senselessly murdered by a homeless man. That day changed the trajectory of all our lives. There will always be a before and after, that before could never be again. And that’s a really hard thing to work through, especially at 13 years old. I had to work through that in therapy many years later. But it still haunts me. And this song brings that back like it happened yesterday. The boys he was hanging out with that night always wonder about the what ifs, what if they’d left with him when he said he was going home, would Tom be alive today or would they all have suffered the same fate as he did? Those answers can never come. So it’s something you just have to make peace with.
I’m so sorry for your loss and for the loss of all the potential of such a young life. I hope Tom is at peace, wherever he may be. I hope for peace for all those who knew and loved him. Thank you for sharing your story and his story. ❤
You need to watch the live performance of “For Joe”. While this one was so dark “For Joe” show the light (in fact a bottle of light on his keyboard which fills the empty cup). There is still pain and grief but it is being processed. He will never get over it or missing his friend but he can process his grief.
This song is just pain, grief, darkness. Still it is important.
It takes courage to face these situations whatever your beliefs, thank you
I lost my boyfriend to suicide at 20, and I relate so hard to the line “the day you jumped my childhood jumped too.” There’s a sense of being indestructible when you’re a young adult and nothing will shatter that faster than losing someone in this way.
I just heard my son say the other day while he was playing, " I am unstoppable". We all face that confrontation with mortality at different times.
Thank you for your prayer brother. Never heard someone pray on RUclips before, which makes it even more powerful. Maybe I'm watching the wrong content. But I thank you for yours.
I agree. His reaction to Hi Ren was so the first Christian reaction.
I had a good friend who was 73 and got news from his dr.s that he was going through early stage dementia. He decided he didnt want to live like that seeing that he took care of his mom that had dementia. He took his life june 5th last year. My friend cannot imagine how the loss of his presence has effected my life. I hate i could not talk him out of it. I accept he is now at peace tho.
As someone who's lost a little brother to this demise in 2020, the first half helps me realize what he was going through... the second half helps justifies my pain moving on/understanding I'm not alone. He really connects with both sides. Ren RAN to his friend, trying to save him... I couldn't imagine that. I didn't have the chance to try to save my brother, and I'm almost grateful for that. Living with the idea that I could have, is so hard. I question why he didn't call me that night, but I know it's because I'm the only person on this planet that could talk him out of anything.
I had a Pastor once tell me (and was probably the turning point in my healing) that he believes God holds those that die that way closer, because they already lived their H*[[ on Earth. BTW, I normally wouldn't talk this way, but try not to get you cancelled with trigger words.
Post Reaction - I believe those who have left us have seen the restitution you desire. They know your thoughts, they know your pain. I'm still angry with my brother, for leaving me. But, I tell him that all the time, and I know he knows what I feel. Just as I believe your friends know what pain they put you through. I hold strong that God is Good. And I believe as part of that goodness, he allows those who have passed to reflect, then become angles guiding us to be better.
I don't know why I'm pouring all this out, but your words, prayers, apparent empathy... make this empath vent. My son (10) has been hospitalized twice for ideation/threats, and I'm scared. Thank you for that prayer. You reached my heart today, and I will continue to pray that it reaches millions more.
Love your reaction. I hope that you watch For Joe by Ren. It’s a tribute to his friend Joe. It’s beautiful.
Thinking about my nephew 26 year old Joey who took his own life on this past Sunday. Love you Joe.
Brother, I'm Catholic and I wish we had more Priests like you.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this. I appreciate seeing your takes on Ren's music coming from an angle I usually don't partake in myself.
As someone that has and is struggling with suicide some lines really do stick out for me. Like it doesn't feel like the right time to die, and yet find yourself walking on train tracks just because one still wish to avoid the suffering you feel on the inside. But for someone on the outside it might not have felt like the right time to reach out and just be with someone you know is struggling. The guilt exists on both sides. If you are too late and wish you could have done more, thinking that maybe you would have been able to help somehow. But the opposite is also there. The guilt of knowing you leave others in grief yet see no other way out of the situation. or thinking they'll be better off without you.
Watching videos like this one does help me carry on despite the burdens many of us carry. Seeing people relate, hearing them share their thoughts and emotions.
If you have the time I would suggest you look at Ren's live performance "For Joe". I feel it is a continuation of Su!cide, marrying together parts of it with an older song of his.
Thank you.
I just wanted to thank you for sharing your story and your pain. I have also been there. You are so right about the guilt being on both sides. It’s also a good reminder for us all to be as open and honest with each other as possible (which I know can be extremely difficult for many, for various different reasons). I’m so grateful that you are still here to share your story and your thoughts. They are seen and appreciated. I hope you continue to find peace and reasons to stay here because you are worthy of life, even when you feel you aren’t. ❤
How to be Me and For Joe are sort of part of an 7nofficial trilogy on this subject
I struggle
Every day
With everything
Ren speaks to me on a level I never thought possible
Really loved your video and have taken a lot of solace from listening to your words and thoughts
Thank you pastor Matt ❤
Thank you for sharing.
For Joe has to be next!
I don't believe in a God who defines any sin as unforgivable. That is a long way short of unconditional love. This song cuts deep. Thank you for having the courage to react to this. I agree with you about crying. It is a cleansing of the soul. Great reaction. I will pray with you for Ren and Joe. By the way, Pastor, you will be impressed with his song "For Joe". Bless you.
Thank you for sharing with me. I understand what you are saying about unconditional love. They way that I understand it is that God said, I love you, I want you. Blasphemy of the Spirit, is saying no, I don't want you. His love is unconditional, His covenant is upheld by Himself. But he gives us a choice. Would we want no choice? Would that be love?
@@pastormattt I don't buy that at all. I do know that God made none of those rules. Arrogant men made those rules. Let me explain it this way: I have a friend whom I love but my friend rejects my love so I punish that friend with eternal agony. Now, I would never do that because I am not a psychopath. The three Abrahamic religions have managed to turn an all-loving God into an evil psychopath.
My solution to this is almost identical to Ren's solution. God never condemned Satan to Hell. Any study of scripture shows that clearly. Satan was sent to EARTH not Hell because that infernal place only exists in our imagination. Consequently, if we need punishment we will be sent back to earth. Look around you. Do you see suffering? This is as close to Hell as we get. Many early Christians believed in reincarnation but that did not sit well with those arrogant men who invented Hell in order to punish those who were having more fun than they were.
The imaginary God of today's Christians is not someone I can love or have any faith in. He is a dangerous psychopath.
Having said that, Jesus is my hero, my guru, my teacher. The God of the Old Testament is a huge disappointment to me. And this is not a recent opinion. I have known this for the past 50 years. I have a deep relationship with God. I always have had. The God I know has an unlimited embrace and His/Her love is eternal and infinite. The God I know condemns no one.
Found you after listening to Hi Ren, and looking for a Pastor reactions of his music. Your genuine. I pray for you Pastor Matt, I hope your fiends found peace, and that you also find peace in their loss. Pastors also need time to be emotional. I am glad you shared with us.
I was thinking about regretting vs being sorry yesterday. I feel like being sorry has value, both learning from an action that hurts someone else and trying to be more aware next time. Regret seems more selfish to me, its about ones own feelings rather than others feelings. That said personal feelings are also relevant but maybe if we think of others before ourselves and they do the same for us we are humans can do better....
Interesting. Jesus told his followers that if they wanted to be great in the kingdom of Heaven, they must be the servant of all. We could use more servants.
Suicide entered my world when I was a 10-year-old little girl. It took me 40 years of healing to decide I wasn’t going to suffer anymore. I wasn’t going to be controlled anymore. Now I am at peace. ☦️❤
There has been countless accounts of near death experiences and many times the person has kind of a heart to heart talk with God. I believe God gives us every opportunity to be forgiven of our sins… including that heart to heart talk with God when we are shown the truth and it is up to us to make that final choice.
Sorry that you cried but only the real knows . As someone that is depressed and suicidal I appreciate that song and that he is still thinking about this friend and all of us that lost people ❤
Not a religious man here but I still appreciate your message and what you do here. Well done.
hadnt seen your channel before till this video was shared in rens discord. great reaction you got a new sub from me
You should definitely check out the song "For Joe". I really really really want to see a reaction to his "Eden" video. "Seven sins" is 🔥 too. GREAT reaction here 👍
Massive Ren fan, everything he does is nothing short of perfect and he is helping people to talk about things that they have otherwise not been able to. Such a genuine guy and incredible talent. In my opinion, the most important artist right now
This was a beautiful, genuine reaction and you have a new sub ❤️
I'm not sure how you feel about metal music, in particular the genre known as deathcore, you may have already heard of the band Lorna Shore and the Pain Remains trilogy, but i highly recomend listening/watching and reacting to these videos. They have a similarly powerful message, just in a very different way
love and god bless
Thank you for sharing your humanity
When you break down in tears, you communicate pain without words. I would like your take on two other Ren songs: Eden and Seven Sins. Enjoying your videos.
I appreciate your openness to address such a heavy subject. I think you would appreciate the video he made for Joes family. Named “For Joe” his message in the last few verses really pull the message all together. Another topic I would like to hear your take on is, REN’s video Eden. After that his song Dear God. It’s a great song that ask many questions, I’ve had in my own walk. Thanks and have a blessed day.
Thanks for not trying to hide your tears.
Losing folk & the 'what ifs' take some dealing with. Much love brother
thank you
Great reaction to a very very heavy song. Thank you for not shying away from showing hurt and tears.
As someone who would absolutely like to know your perspective on Rens "Eden" I hope you will react to that video too. It is not really a song, but it shows Rens views on religion and current state of things. It is part of Rens social experiment in the wake of his new album. It has been a kind of scavenger hunt with solving puzzles and ultimately (not) winning money. It ties into the concept of the album surrounding the seven deadly sins. Green is the big one. Eden has been released at the end of the experiment.
one thing we have to remember is we are never alone in how we feel
The last part of the song hurts me so badly. My brother shot himself in 2016 and I miss him. I'm crying with you.
One of the most important lessons I learned was the strength of allowing myself to feel, to cry, to admit the hurt, process it and keep going. Even though angry, hurt, injured, and tearful. It is sometimes hard to feel but it is even harder when I was so separated from my own life that I didn’t feel at all. I have looked into the abyss and felt it looking back. My biggest fear is that some event will happen that has me locking all the feeling, compassion, emotion, joy, and wonder back away and I become the monster I am capable of being again. That is not who I want to be. That is not the world I want to see.
Ren gave the Life Boat station that tried to find Joe's body over £20,000 this summer, amazing man.
Much love to you Sir, thank you for sharing your genuine emotion.
Thank you for this reaction. No matter how many times I see the video the last part always gets me.
Like you said tears are needed.
This song helped me so much in terms of allowing my emotions out.
Ren seems to bring out empathy, love and emotion in people, for me that has been healing.
"For Joe" follows this up with beautiful resolution. You should listen to it... when you feel ready.
I can't say you won't cry, but it won't be these kinds of tears.
Edit: There are a couple other songs around this subject that may be better to hear before For Joe. Neithrr hit like this one but they all are important, and will add something when for you do hear it.
"Freckled Angels" - He wrote this one about Joe soon afterwards Look for the video that has a very early Ren sitting on a bed. Another is "How To Be Me", a duet with Chinchilla.
She and him also have "Chalk Outlines", and his duet " Crutch" with Bibi are both about different (but also important) topics.
And it is no concidence that these are all (IMO) his most beautiful works.
Thank you for your thoights and this reaction.... a tough one
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This video, especially the spoken words at the end, is very emotional ! I think just about every single person who has seen this has shed tears ! I appreciate your heartfelt reaction ! ❤
About the unforgivable sin/ blasphemy of the Holy Spirit- I thought that couldn’t be replicated today. It was when the religious leaders (Pharisees) attributed Jesus’ miracles to those of Beezelbub or Satan- that was the unforgivable sin; to see His Works and say they came from satan instead of God the Father.
Ren is amazing! This song always makes me tear up too. Glad you’re reacting to his music as well as praying for him.
That is the exact story when Jesus says that. Which when you unpack it, it boils down to rejecting the work of the Spirit. It is not God, it is nothing, it is the work of the devil, are just the excuses for the rejection.
Now you need to watch "For Joe" which is kinda of a part 2 of this song, which Ren played for Joe's parents. It will leave you touched but more uplifted. I recommend "Freckled Angels" before "For Joe" for the maximum effect.
Thank you for doing this one, such a tough song , your words were a comfort.
Beautiful genuine reaction,Thank you ❤
Lovely reaction to a powerful song.. Its very sad how many people can personally relate to it.
I'm really glad that you clarified the misconception of suicide being the ultimate sin. So many religious leaders have used that against people and has actually caused more harm than good. As for the ultimate sin with the rejection of God I can't agree with that. Not accepting the belief of a god has actually set me free from much of the ridiculous religious dogma that many Christian sects have imposed upon their church/congregation goers that are NOT biblical at all. Regardless though I am so glad you reacted to this because somewhere your reaction will help someone and more than likely without you knowing.
Thanks for being willing to chat, even when we have some different opinions. I hope the reaction goes farther than I know.
@@pastormattt much respect.
Thank you for that reaction! Ren can really hit you in the heart! ❤
I'm not religious at all but I appreciate people who hold it dear like yourself. I'm the type who will call on God, yet row away from the rocks.
Thank you Pastor 💔🙏
He wrote the first part about his own experiences. He later added the end piece. Wrote and recorded in one session about Joe!
Amen .... 1000 x Amen. Thank you so much for all the work and time that goes into your reactions. Hope you are having a truly blessed day!
Nice to see a music reactor who's genuine and sincere, and kind.
Oh dude I’m not a religious man but I want to give you a huge hug. I cry when I watch this too and I’m crying with you. X
the last part always got me... and watching the reactors crying too, gets me even more🥲
Yes it's a tough song to get through but extremely accurate for all of us who have lost somebody this way❤😢
My uncle committed suicide almost six years ago in October. My life was forever different. I miss you Unc. I love you and you're a butt for leaving us. ♥️
Tears are a gift. They are the most beautiful thing in the world. Whenever I get the chance that my patients or friends cry in front of me, it feels like a massive honour to me. Tears are always telling the deepest truth about that person. To be so comfortable in a certain situation or a front of another person to let the most inner ongoing shine outside through tears is magical. To be there in that situation and allow the other person to let go while providing the strength the other one doesn’t have in that moment is a highly intimate situation that I’m very thankful whenever it happens. I don’t understand why people often say they don’t feel comfortable when someone else is crying. Xx
Well said. My complaint against tears is that as an orator, it makes it hard for the words to come out. But often, those words draped in tears carry much more.
@@pastormattt True :)
Thank you Ren, & I thank you Pastor Matt, May God Bless you and your congregation....in your prayer you say those thoughts come, and often are acted on... in an instant....and you pray that God helps you and your congregation to be better at finding those people and helping them before it's too late....I felt an overwhelming sensation that God answered your prayer in an instant through the thousands that will see this video and pray that prayer with you....
I never truly understood the saying "I know it in my heart to be true" until now....and only those who've experienced it themselves know how "true" that really is....The Lord Works in Mysterious Ways".....
Amen.
The reason I was always told su*cide was the mortal sin was because you can't repent for it, because you're unalive after committing it.
I used to be depressed and I thought about killing myself multiple times but by the grace of God I didn't thank you Lord for saving me❤✝️
I loved your heartfelt reaction to Suicide. God Bless You! Sorry for the loss of your friends. You 1:44 are a good soul!
Many years ago I thought suicide was my only option. I am here today by the grace of God. I won't go into the details of why I thought it was my only option but I will say that I felt my soul was gone and I was only an empty shell. I made a few superficial cuts to my arms but when I went to go deeper the strangest thing happened... there was a musical magnet on my refrigerator and every time I dug in a little deeper it started playing with no one there to push the button that activated it. At first I thought it was just a blip. After it stopped I tried again, the magnet played. Each cut, the magnet played. I put down the instrument I was using and it stopped. I sat there crying and called the suicide hotline. Obviously today I am very happy to be alive and am convinced my guardian angel was watching over me that night and got my attention by the musical magnet. It never played again but I still have it as a reminder.
When you are in the depths where suicide seems like the only option, you don't much consider the ones you are leaving behind and what your death would mean to them, the pain you would cause. This song totally tells the story of the aftermath. I hope Ren one day finds peace with his friends decision.
I grew up in church, and turned my back on God because of the church and the people who run the church blindly.
I turned back to faith around 10 years ago, got plugged into an awesome church, and was a drummer on the worship team for a while. I left a year or so ago, and in July of 2023, my wife and I lost our daughter. She was still born, and all anyone told me was “God has a plan.” Which honestly pissed me off. There was no rhyme or reason, and it sent me into a massive spiral. My wife and I just started going back to church a couple months ago, and found out, after months of trying, and just having given up, that we are pregnant and expecting a baby ( 🤞🏻 it is a girl) in March.
Loss is tough. No matter who it is or what your faith, beliefs, or anything is. But I will say, don’t go through the tough times alone, and don’t be afraid to cry, to scream, to show emotion.
I left my country with nothing but the clothes on my back. I worked hard in the USA and went from a tent, to car, to bunk room and finally to house. I was smashing my steering wheel on the way home from work every night and screaming in joy, I had it all figured out.
Then one day, at work everything went wrong and I was left in a broken pile of broken bones. I had a long recovery and I remember one day sitting by the window in my wheelchair and it felt like I was watching the sun rise and set over and over. First time I ever contemplated suicide. I made noises only an animal can make and remember being shocked at the noises I was making as I hit a primal state of being. A sadness and sorrow that only rock bottom can show.
Fast forward, I have a wife and 3 kids. I often look at that crossroad in my life and at my kids faces and I know I made the right choice.
I'm not a religious man, but part of me can't help but question if this was all divine intervention. I couldn't have been a father if I didnt fall that day.
That sounds like a wild roller coaster of events, emotions, thoughts. Thank you for being open to share.
I lost my dad when I was 13 and was told by a few people he went to hell. I also tried to take my own life.
I am now a part of a support group on Facebook for others who've lost someone and many of those have been told as well. Its comforting that you explaned that. Thank you.
I'm falling through the cracks but I'm fighting.
It's never shameful to cry. Releasing a human emotion is real.❤
The part about being taken down by a tic is a shout to his Lyme disease.
RIP to Joe Hughes and anyone else that has ever lost someone ❤❤
I wish I could show you what the 50's in America were like... Not perfect, but redeeming to young children and elders. People would laugh at the simplicity of community then, at the thought of what revival was to a country and people who gathered to revive and pray for this country. The writing on the wall says we can never go back, we have condemned ourselves by our own hands. At 73, I am weary and tired, ready to see two of my children who could not find a way to make it through and found the door. There are more than you could ever count.
I have listened to this song a lot and watched a lot of reactors experience this song. I tear up every time. I lost my brother to su1c1de roughly 20 years ago, so I know the pain and the regret. Your prayer at the end literally stopped me from what I was doing and forced me to focus on your words, to empower your intentions with my attention. It's the best response I've ever heard to this song and it was perfect. Thank you for sharing your story and pain with us. You are not alone and you helped us to see we aren't alone, either.
By breaking down in tears you say ALL that needs to be said and all that can’t be. Great reaction . I recommend you watch Ren For Joe and how to be me. and again be prepared to be destroyed emotionally.
Thank you for being so raw and vulnerable ❤ you're an inspiring man! Really love your channel. Have the most blessed holidays and new year! Please keep coming back with more Ren, his older bands Trick the Fox, and The Big Push ❤ Also his song blind eyed with Sam Tompkins is top tier ❤ also How to be me ... oh MATT! PLEASE DO" HOW TO BE ME" by Ren and Chinchilla, you will love it ❤❤ they also have another great one called chalk outlines
Thank you for your reaction. Waves wash shores clean. Tears cleanse our hearts.
Those who mourn shall be comforted.
Thanks Pastor Matt for your authentic reaction. It hit me the same way. Big hugs from germany.
Thank you for letting us see your humanity. It strange how we can connect only through showing we're human, and still most of us go around trying not to act anything but humanly.
In my family there's two ways to go: cancer or suicide.
I've been suicidal since early childhood and now I'm in my 40s and I'm still very much suicidal. It's a comfort to know that I can leave this cold and hard place when I can no longer fend for myself against this world.
I lost my faith during my last depression due to all the strange man-made rules in Christianity. I refuse to believe in a God who's not forgiving and loving for all. It's like I don't want in on a club where we're not all welcome, just as we are!
But your prayer at the end... I felt it. And I want you to know that. So thank you for at least shaking me enough for a pebble to fall from my heavy heart. 🖤
Much love
From STHLM, Sweden
I am atheist, never have been a religious person. 2 years ago I saw the doctors turn off the machines on my dad - I was the only one with him. And ever since I find myself wanting to believe in something. For my dad. I don’t wanna accept that this is how his life ended at 59. It has nothing to do with suicide or this video, but I am a fan of Ren and I really appreciate your reaction. It somehow reminded me of the desperate feelings I have for my dad‘s passing and I started crying. So, thank you!