..... I guess we all know exactly what your point was then, huh? Not that you are a fan of Star Wars that you want to enjoy that with other people... But that you want to dictate your personal political fetishes on others in exchange for the privilege of enjoying something that you really don't have any say over. If your first and foremost worry about anything is whether or not it offends lgbtq or minorities, then you're not here for actual thing you're pretending to be here for. And that two and a half hour video looks like it might have been good, but now I'm not even going to bother. Sorry kiddo, you don't get to take this from the majority of people that enjoy it. That's not how this works. 😁
@@Pigpen_YT funny, that's exactly the word I thought of when you started off a two and a half hour video by showing that you clearly aren't even here to discuss a shared hobby with fellow fans... And if that's the case, don't pretend like it's not. "Cope" is what someone does when they try to worm their way into something that other people enjoy and take it over as a platform for their own little political fetish. You're the one who went out of your way to make that little disclaimer at the beginning, kiddo. That's the difference between the people making actual videos about the actual thing, and you! 💎 Imagine being so lame that you have to mix Star Wars and modern political activism....#cringe
@@Pigpen_YT .... Well by that same metric...your own video doesn't mean much beyond that little fascist disclaimer then, does it? Oh my science, you're not one of the people that thinks typing up basic English words on a screen takes effort and energy, are you? 😁 If your reaction to normal people liking Star Wars is a note at the beginning of a 2 and 1/2 hour video telling people that they don't agree with your politics they aren't allowed to watch it...sounds like cope.
Ok, so I love that you refuse to spoil the short films, particularly the good ones, and feel that the early mention of spoilers from Avengers helpfully impacted this editorial direction. 10/10 for consistent world view. I can't wait for the next iceberg.
I think the wildest thing about this iceberg video is that the star wars movies aren't this long. Research, recording, and editing all this must've taken an ungodly amount of time.
Fun Fact: Jake Lloyd started a rumor that were was a 6-Hour Cut of TPM & he said the voice actor of Grevious thought it was great. This was either likely an assembly cut or Lloyd made it up (which is the most likely scenario).
There's something goddamn incredible about palpatine being so flabbergasted by what he's just heard that he doesnt have anything wise or witty to say but he's just like "...what?"
@@peytonk5062 she was preparing me for an exam (it's called IELTS) and I can see why she told me to avoid that. On exams you gotta use actual professional lexicon
Really wish 1313 could’ve been finished, I’ve always been fascinated with the underground and slums of Coruscant and exploring them as Boba Fett would’ve been amazing
I really like all of the unique reviews of the final Iceberg levels in your iceberg videos. Instead of just reviewing them like the other levels, you add your own touches to them, by making it like a character is discussing these points as if they were conspiracy theories (cuz most of them are). It’s a really neat touch that I feel sets your iceberg videos apart from others!
This is one of my favorite videos on this channel. Not only for the in-depth research put into the iceberg but also the comment section for the large amount of copium and expository essays I find on here. Here's hoping we get a part 2 one day. Keep being based, Pigpen Quick complaint for the franchise: Can we please explore more planets beside Tatooine!?
@@Pigpen_YT It’s only human to make that mistake. I remember losing my shit when seeing that. A extremely good fan film. Now theirs a animated fan series adapting the original thrawn trilogy and its outstanding given it’s being animated by one guy with no budget
@@luckykennedy7364 the only think I don't like about it is the shaky cam, the rest is just awesome. The intercut ANH scenes that meshed it with the original is such a great touch
the hate for the Prequels has died down to a weird degree. I like them, but now you've got people holding them up as masterpiece epics just to justify their level of hatred against the Sequels. it's weird! star wars has always been a bit bumpy!
There’s a browser exclusive Lego Star Wars The Clone Wars game that I used to play as a kid. I tried finding it awhile ago but it seems to be lost. It seems to be very obscure and it’d be cool if you talked about it in a lego iceberg.
So he decides to poke fun at fans taking the movies too seriously and that's toxic? This is the same as Harry Potter fans using their houses as their personality traits
Honestly with a few tweaks, the “duel of the fates” movie could’ve been kind of interesting. Change up hux’s lines, connect the kylo vs Vader fight with the world between worlds, let phasms stay dead, get rid of Rey/Poe, boom now we’re laughing
I really like the last segment with the robot voice, most icebergs just play some creepy music on the deepest layer but this works so much better its the droid voice without underlying music is not only topical but also quite unsettling without being explicitly meant to be scary...
Battlefront Elite Squadron was one of my favorite games as a kid. getting to go from inside a capital ship, hop in a fighter and get into dogfights was great. I know there were other more grounded levels too where you could play as Jedi and sith, but man it was so immersive for me as a kid
My man Jacen Solo should have had a spot in tier 3, as he was something else, especially after his fall. If you interrupted him while he was using battle meditation, you best believe you were dead when the battle was over. He killed Mara Jade, he attempted to burn the Kashyyyk world-forest, he tortured Luke's son, Ben, in an effort to turn the boy, he kidnapped and threatened to kill his own daughter when his gf wouldn't give him her fleet, used Anakin Solo as a bargaining chip to lure Tahiri Veila, and he operated on a weird philosophy of using the dark side but not being corrupted by it to justify the atrocities he committed. I cannot believe he wasn't there somewhere :(
Listen man, I don't want to give anyone the wrong idea, but is it really necessary to bring up all the toxicity and "the fandom menace" and such? Like your intro kinda threw me off there. I liked your Batman iceberg and was interested in this one but idk. I understand the Star Wars fan base is all over the place and there is SOME toxicity but again, was the disclaimer really needed and why is it aimed specifically at "the fandom menace"? Like don't get me wrong, this is a good video, your icebergs are great! I'm sorry if you've had any issue with other fans or something, that disclaimer just seems really unnecessary and all this mention of toxicity kinda seems self-defeating in a way. Wanted to get that off my chest. Still a good video and nice that you're promoting other channels and good parts of the franchise
I am extremely tired of dealing with the Fandom Menace and toxic members of the Star Wars community. They're everywhere. The single biggest Star Wars content creator works with these people and has a community filled with these people. I just want to talk about my favorite franchise in peace without shitbags going "muh sjw, decanon the sequel trilogy, there's a civil war in lucasfilm, you're a fake fan" and all that. Any Star Wars content I produce, which I will do more of, will not be friendly to these types of people. I want nothing to do with them. The opening message is meant to make those kinds of people not want to watch. They may leave a nasty little comment that I'll laugh about or respond to if I'm in the mood but overall I do not want them watching my content. This goes for any community, I never put one in the Batman iceberg or the Spider-Man one or the Transformers one or the Cowboy Bebop one, etc because those communities, while having toxic parts, are ones I rarely see. The Star Wars fandom however, all you gotta do is search Star Wars on youtube or twitter and you'll almost be instantly meant with videos and comments of being bad people. I get what you mean by your comment and not mad by it at all so if it seemed like I was annoyed with you or anything, I apologize, that wasn't even remotely my intention.
@@Pigpen_YT sorry to hear that dude. I understand the paranoia of it all and how exhaustive it can be. There's extremes on both sides but I guess it makes sense. It just seems kinda self defeating to not want any drama or toxicity or to attract the fandom menace while bringing it up several times and having the disclaimer be the first thing we hear. Sometimes it's better to ignore it and not bring it up. Again it threw me off but I guess I understand why you did it. Not like it can be changed now anyways. This is a good video and it's nice that you're trying to promote the nicer parts of the franchise and fans.
@@Pigpen_YT I hate that sjw clickbait shit too. I don't like the sequels because of their stupid story and lack of any real logic. Doesn't mean I'll condemn you for liking it.
I for one am kind of glad you mentioned that in the opening. It's sad that it has to be said at all since being a fan means you shouldn't hate other fans, but it is what it is.
This is probably the most comprehensive Iceberg I’ve ever seen. I never knew Star Wars history went THIS deep. Kudos my guy! Excited to see what you do next!
Dude, the amount of effort you put into this video is INSANE. Seriously, it’s two and a half hours of stuff I had never heard about from the fandom. You’re probably one of my favorite small youtubers right now, keep it up!
I previously watched your Batman iceberg. I REALLY love your long iceberg videos, maybe because I like icebergs in general, and also use them as background noise during class. Maybe you'll do a video on the Smash Bros or lost media iceberg?
Smash Bros and Lost Media have already been covered pretty extensively. I'd recommend Blameitonjorge and All Things Lost's Lost Media icebergs and NEScRETRO's Smash Bros iceberg. You can't top those
@@Pigpen_YT You sure can't top 'em. I've seen all 3 and they're some of the highest quality iceberg videos i've ever seen (alongside yours, of course) Do you know about the S.T.A.L.K.E.R series of games? There is an iceberg for them, but it's quite confusing. I'd probably recommend the Metal Gear iceberg linked here, many of the things on it won't need too much research: cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713925758099390524/839850113504903198/received_783690128885332_1.jpeg
I feel like the actors not liking Star Wars are similar to actors who don’t want to be in big superhero movies, it kinda ties you down in some aspects because people will remember you for it.
that and literally any interview you do you're gonna get asked about those movies. I mean look at Harrison Ford. Dude's done tons of films but nearly all of them people go "So Han Solo..." like god damn, leave the dude alone
What's even funnier about the Holiday Special is that apparentely Carrie Fisher asked George Lucas for a copy of it, since he wanted her to do a dvd c9mmentary. She I guess played it at parties and get people to piss off. I guess he reluctantely accepted, which is hilarious to think that he actually had like 1 copy tucked away somewhere, for whatever reason...
Has shitty star wars takes changed? Because from what I remember when I still used Twitter, they called out some stuff, like "over sexualized" fanart, but ignored stuff like people attacking Mark Hamill over wishing to have had a scene of the OT cast together. So they only called out toxicity from one side of the fandom while ignoring the other
i love the last jedi. its the only sequel i think is good. but holy fucking shit sequel fans and last jedi fan boys can be quite toxic. even hello greedo's discord (which he has no real involment in) ive heard can be a cesspool of "wut you dont like the sequel? must be dumb or toxic" kind of thing. ive been blocked by people when i (in a thread defending the last jedi) had something bad to say about almighty rose. plus theyll lable u with ist phobes and as a nazi etc. plus usually when someone makes an opinion piece on why they dont like it theyre just quick to delegitimize/disregard it through the most superficial shallow things imaginable., granted i hate how haters act like the film was the equivalent to rian violently raping luke and mark while kathleen sat and watched and laughed tho. and ofc im still seeing dumb journos acting like only trolls hate this film and even going as far as to call its hate unfounded. i love the last jedi but the discourse around it really shows the internet was a mistake. u cant have a calm discussion about it without one side being a hyperbolic nut case acting like this is a political view or argument. rant over but god this fandom sux. edit: honestly the best way i can sum up the discourse is fanboys see detractors as neo nazi close minded bigots. and haters see enjoyers as literal flat earthers and fake fans
About Jediism. When you enlist, they put your religious preference on your dog tags. Well in one of my platoons we had a guy who picked Jedi for his and it was on his tags, then another guy from a different platoon but same barracks had his tags with Sith on his lol
Cool video, I've been a star wars fangirl since I was a kid, I grew up reading the expanded universe books, comics, and listening to the audiobooks. Not too keen on the new canon/ canon, but, I'm always curious when hearing about what new lore is created to replace the old lore.
This was a great video! Whenever I see or hear about Star Wars:1313,I die a little inside. It looked so good and the fact we'll most likely never see it makes me want to cry.
The guys behind IMPS are apparently, _still_ working. If you're subbed to them, they've posted updates in the form of special effects demos. Something might even come soon. What chads.
I'm a little upset that i hadn't made this first, or atleast a part of it (i had planned on making a cancelled games/kotor iceberg) but honestly I'm glad you had done it instead, considering i barely knew any of the fan films or most of the non game things. Though I do have every cancelled game documented so if you missed any i have a list of them. Oh also your mic is leagues better than mine lol
I'm not surprised, an iceberg video about Star Wars is this long. I actually expected it to be longer, considering every creature on screen in every movie has a long Wikipedia page about them.
Seeing those old Clone Wars bumpers from Cartoon Network again made me feel like a kid again, watching every single episode when it came out. Thank you for reminding me those existed
32:05 Contrary to popular belief, George was heavily involved in Legends. He barred anyone from using the Clone Wars until Episode 2 came out and every piece of legends media had to be approved by him.
Wow I've been enjoying these iceberg videos, discovered these a few days ago and the whole time I'm thinking this channel has subscribers on level with wendigoon or SunnyV2 or something like that. If u keep making content like this u will have yourself a nice lil blowup in no time, so keep it up! You've certainly earned yourself a new subscriber/viewer. 😄
Hey Pigpen I'd love to see a second Star Wars Iceberg in the future given all the shows released since the first one. Maybe after Filoni's 'Heir to the Empire' film is out as it's apparently gonna be the culmination of the MandoVerse.
The people in this comment section who are malding about you liking the sequels are hilarious, they dont seem to understand that people can like em if they want to. Loved the vid btw!
Personally, I don't like the sequels. But if somebody else does, who am I to put them down? Hell, I enjoy the prequels, so I don't have a right to judge sequel fans. It's all star Wars, and in the spirit of star Wars. Each film brings new characters, lore, and creatures to explore, which is what I love about star Wars is the unique content to get into. Let us rise above the MHA and Warrior Cat fandom 🙏
We know that you glaze retconing something amazing and creating miserable continuation out of it, but if you are true Star Wars fan you wouldn't say that you enjoy the new movies, so suit yourself as being enemy of true fans xdd NewCanon just sucks
For someone who keeps championing anti-toxicity, you sure do make quite a lot of smarmy, negative comments and judgments about things. Just so long as no one is trashing stuff *_you_* like, huh?
Actually, Padme's death is rooted in science. Takotsubo cardiomyopathy (Broken Heart Syndrome) is incredibly rare, but very real, and potentially lethal even in healthy people. It's also more common in women.
49:17 - 49:22; The sequence mentioned here must've been cut late given it's a MASSIVE section of the Revenge of the Sith game. Likewise with Anakin killing Cin Drallig and Anakin killing Wat Tambor.
On the first level you forgot about the insanely fun arcade fan game "battle of yavin" and "battle of endor" that can be downloaded on mod database. This is very obscure and i really wish more people knew about it
Can’t wait for the remake of the iceberg this December. I always look forward to your videos. Very well done every time imo. My view is that Star Wars has always had toxicity. Before Disney it was OT vs Prequels, now it’s Disney vs everything else basically lol. I have my opinions but I see both sides of enjoyment. Unfortunate to see the hate carry over to both sides though. Regardless on viewpoints I’d figure Star Wars fans, content creators, and even Lucasfilm themselves would’ve learned to just let the hate go. Unfortunately that hasn’t been the case. Besides all of that Star Wars will still always be one of my favorite franchises and your videos will always be a favorite of mine. Keep up the good work. May the force be with you.
Rewatching this video rn, since I'm getting back into Star Wars, mainly towards legends stuff, through the Dark Forces games, and I wanted to say that you did a good job on this iceberg! Have you ever thought about making a sequel to this iceberg, btw? Also, what are your thoughts on the Star Wars shows that have come out since this video was uploaded and how much has your opinion changed on the canon?
I very much love the canon timeline. All three seasons of the Mandalorian, Andor Bad Batch, and Obi-Wan Kenobi are fantastic. Tales of the Jedi, Book of Boba Fett and Ahsoka are okay. Don’t care about Visions. As for a part 2, I’d rather just remake this video instead
Hi first time viewing, when you mentioned IMPS, which is my absolute favorite piece of Star Wars media since Empire, I almost sat up in bed, and screamed "yeah IMPS baby" out load at ten am when most of my neighborhood is still asleep
Love the video Pigpen! I'm sad that you didn't touch on RedLetterMedia's Phantom Menace review unless I missed it, but overall a great deep dive into Star Wars.
"Star Wars explained Is a great anti toxicity channel" *Calls people who dont like the sequels sexist And racist* Other than that disagreement, great video man
Objectively not true. If that were the case he’s calling himself that because he doesn’t really like ROS. Stop believing everything you read from dumbass reactionaries
@@Pigpen_YT Theres literaly a clip of them saying it, And even after it they recieved backlash from IT they called them "Salty fanboys", they also said that before ROS came out Im not believing in any "Dumbass reactioners", Theres evidence
Man aside from the Rey and Poe stuff that duel of the fates script still sounds so sick to me, I really don’t care for the existing episode 9 so to know we could have had that instead just makes me so sad
Ever notice that the people who champion the Disney sequels really hate it that you can choose to ignore their canon? There's a weird element of tyranny in it.
Final tier: "losing the will to live", aka: Broken Heart Syndrome, a legit medical condition where severe emotional trauma can weaken the heart enough to kill you. Still think it was a weak way to explain her death? Droids aren't going to understand that, my guy and truth is often stranger than fiction. People really need to be more aware of this condition. It's logical, it's realistic, and it explains Padme's demise pretty well when you look at HOW she ended up that way. What do I think? Why not both? Padme had her heart broken by Anakin's betrayal, she was injured by him, and she was pregnant on top of THAT, never mind being near-term at the time. One kid is rough on the female body. Imagine it with twins. No wonder she passed. Palpatine probably took whatever lifeforce was still left in her and sped up the process.
@@wyattborden1377 I'll do it one better. It was all of it. Draining her life force and preexisting trauma can do it. It doesn't have to be just Palpatine doing Sith things.
49:57 ive watched this video 10+ times now: everry time i hear this bit i get flashbacks to playing the lego star wars game. probably bc yoda and obiwan was the greatested team up in lego history.
People complain about the music in the Star Wars Hotel but if it looks and sounds like that dance game near the end of this video I’ll pay to stay there
1:30:00 - 1:30:09: Honestly I've heard people complain more about the lack of variety in superweapons than how many there are. The Death Star, a slightly bigger Death Star, a Death Star made out of a planet that can blow up multiple targets at once AND a fleet of Star Destroyers all turned into mini Death Stars. ALL of these are basically the same thing. I could go into the BIG lore problem with the Final Order fleet but on this occasion I won't.
In hindsight, thanks to Rebels, the Maul game could've worked if Talon was his apprentice before Ezra and explain how he got stuck on Malachor. Also, maybe have Talon get stuck in stasis somehow with Darth Krayt freeing her in the future, hence why she's loyal to him? I'll have to read the Legacy comics again to see if they gave her a backstory... Also, thanks to the World Between Worlds, I really want to see more Star Wars alternate timelines/Infinites. One where Mace Windu succeeded in killing Palpatine and one where Luke accepted Vader's offer in Empire Strikes Back. Edit: A clone of Luke is a pretty interesting idea on paper, but the execution was iffy. Maybe change his name and have him be the one working with Thrawn from the get go instead of that Corus guy?
Rewatching this after Bad Batch season 2 and I just realized some of the scrapped clone wars episodes were probably made into Bad Batch episodes, specifically the Wookie and Zillo beast ideas
Yea why is the "official" name for that pairing Anidala when freaking ANIME has always been right there as a possibility? Come on, people who ship them. You had _one_ job
Thank you for including Empire of Dreams. I too watched this film several times in my childhood and totally forgot about it until this video. Amazing documentary
You would probably enjoy Gold Man's Star Wars videos, he is easily one of my favorite non-toxic SW channels. Edit: this is my third time watching this video fully, great content.
"non toxic" How do you tell us that you're not really a Star Wars fan without telling us you're not really a Star Wars fan? Oh right, if you're only here to appropriate a hobby or an interest held by a larger group so that you can use it as a platform for your particular political fetish. If you can't enjoy, understand, or process something unless it's spoon-fed to you like a child while patting you on the back and telling you you're a good person just for existing, then I don't know what to tell you.
@@floatingmoney3846 clown babies who only like star wars because it "was" popular. But that was...month, years ago now? 😂😂😂 The brand has continued to tank amazingly since then, because of the same "REEEEEE anyone whom likes actua storytelling is a toxic bigot!" zoomer behavior. They just ruin everything. 😂
I don’t like the acting, the CGI, the writing and a lot of the action. I think a lot of the lightsaber duels from the prequels are overrated. I like the ideas of the prequels and love the era. I just wish the writing and acting were a lot better. Also outside of Dooku and Palpatine, I don’t think the villains are all that great. Maul’s my second favorite SW character but only for his roles in Clone Wars and Rebels. I think he’s very boring in TPM. Grievous is cool in ROTS but he has far too little screen time. Meanwhile I love most of the characters from the ST, love most of the fights, writing and themes. Also think the CG is far more consistent and the villains are all great even if I’m still not super big on Palpatine coming back. Music from both trilogies are insanely good tho
@@Pigpen_YT Fair. I'll be honest, I adore everything about the Prequels. I think it's peak Star Wars. Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith are my second and most favourite Star Wars films respectively. And I've only watched half of Season 1 of Clone Wars, so I'm not part of the 'the Prequels are made good by the Prequels' crowd. I think they're perfectly fine as is. The Sequel Trilogy meanwhile, a lot of its good aspects are for me overshadowed by its issues; . The Force Awakens is fine but it's objectively the most safe and generic thing they could've made. Starkiller Base is just a Death Star made out of a planet, the Resistance is just the Rebels again (with X-Wings again, Y-Wings again, A-Wings again etc), The First Order is just the Empire again but shinier and sleeker (with Stormtroopers again, TIE Fighters/Bombers again, AT-ATs again, AT-STs again etc)... Like come on some original stuff please. Also compared to the Original Trilogy and ESPECIALLY the Prequel Trilogy the world building is nonexistent (it sorta is throughout the entire Sequel Trilogy but ESPECIALLY here given The Force Awakens is set 30 years after Return of the Jedi SOME would've gone a long way), especially as I'm someone who just adores that stuff. It gets points for being the only film where Finn gets anywhere close to reaching his potential though. . The Last Jedi is my fourth favourite Star Wars film. It's a gorgeous, deep, thought provoking film that's brave as fuck and (major hottake) has my favourite performance from Hamill as Luke, and is hurt only by how it's kinda fucked as the middle chapter of a Trilogy. . You know my thoughts on Rise of Shitwalker already I think. 😂😂😂 Also you mentioned the music, I think that the Sequel Trilogy music is kinda bland. The Original Trilogy's music is more iconic and the Prequel Trilogy's music is even more iconic than the Original Trilogy's stuff (to me anyway).
@@tritonk1759 I agree it needed more world building but thankfully novels, comics and shows will be giving us that in the future. As for ships mainly being the same I agree they should've done some different things (though I think the AT-M6 and FO TIE Bombers are fairly well designed and new. Same with the Bunkerbuster, Resistance bombers and Supremacy.) As for the music, I agree it's the weakest of the three trilogies but it still has some bangers. Rey's theme, Battle of Crait, The Jedi Steps and Finale, Ahch-To Island, The Spark, Anthem of Evil, Approaching the Throne and Farewell. I reccomend giving those tracks in particular a chance. They're really good
@@Pigpen_YT I'll give them a listen. I've already done so for Rey's theme in the past and I think it's just OK, but I'll give it another go. I will say that Kylo's theme and the Resistance theme both slap. I also really like the Throne Room fight theme, mostly I will confess because that sequence is just amazing. Yes it's got problems but I don't really care it's just so big and spectacular. Also I'll agree on for example the Resistance Bombers. The Last Jedi also gave us the First Order Dreadnought and Gorilla-esque AT-ATs. Rian Johnson seemed to actually try to give us some new stuff.
@@tritonk1759 honestly tfa isn't that safe only thing safe is explaining the force and that's that lol. starkiller base is like the death star in one quality and that's that like its laser is far more powerful and destructive and can be split and go through hyperspace. the first order isn't really the empire since they don't control the galaxy and they ceterinatly are a type of imperial remnant even tho people don't like saying that for the first order when it is technically tho. the only thing they got as the empire is look and is a successor state but thats it. they more connected to the darkside/sith more than the empire in Ogrins. The resistance isn't like a carbon copy of the rebels because the rebels were fighting a power that controlled the whole galaxy. They also were just more of a fringe group. I would say there more original stuff in the movie especially with rey and the new force powers. Also, saying that starkiller base, first order, resistance makes this film not original and say that needed to is fine opinion but it's really unfair in way. Honestly there is enough worldbuilding there and we have the other worldbuilding from the other films so i would say thats a little unfair, I do wish we saw the new separatist's union. Like for example the first odrder and how there were some much foreshadowed especially to snokes death that's worldbuilding. some this just seems unfair
27:50 Pigpen 077 you know that Disney would shut down that sequel project quicker than Nintendo with fan made games with their intellectual properties. Also happy May the 4th and can’t wait for your next video.
Every time I come back to this comment section I always find at least one new funny rant. Thank you for the laughs
..... I guess we all know exactly what your point was then, huh? Not that you are a fan of Star Wars that you want to enjoy that with other people... But that you want to dictate your personal political fetishes on others in exchange for the privilege of enjoying something that you really don't have any say over.
If your first and foremost worry about anything is whether or not it offends lgbtq or minorities, then you're not here for actual thing you're pretending to be here for. And that two and a half hour video looks like it might have been good, but now I'm not even going to bother.
Sorry kiddo, you don't get to take this from the majority of people that enjoy it. That's not how this works. 😁
@@sourdough_ak998 cope
@@Pigpen_YT funny, that's exactly the word I thought of when you started off a two and a half hour video by showing that you clearly aren't even here to discuss a shared hobby with fellow fans... And if that's the case, don't pretend like it's not. "Cope" is what someone does when they try to worm their way into something that other people enjoy and take it over as a platform for their own little political fetish.
You're the one who went out of your way to make that little disclaimer at the beginning, kiddo. That's the difference between the people making actual videos about the actual thing, and you! 💎
Imagine being so lame that you have to mix Star Wars and modern political activism....#cringe
@@sourdough_ak998 if your reaction to “cope” is a three paragraph rant about how you’re not coping I think you might be coping
@@Pigpen_YT .... Well by that same metric...your own video doesn't mean much beyond that little fascist disclaimer then, does it? Oh my science, you're not one of the people that thinks typing up basic English words on a screen takes effort and energy, are you? 😁
If your reaction to normal people liking Star Wars is a note at the beginning of a 2 and 1/2 hour video telling people that they don't agree with your politics they aren't allowed to watch it...sounds like cope.
Dang no mention of Sha'a Gi. He is basically Shaggy from Scooby-Doo as a Jedi.
Maybe he's saving it for another iceberg... 🤔
@@umbrella3235 Scooby-Doo Iceberg 👀
That Version of Shaggy was weak.
That’s an entire iceberg on its own.
And got almost immediately deleted by grievous
Wait an iceberg video made by a relatively small channel and the narrorator doesn't have a shit mic? Legend
This wasn’t always the case
@@Pigpen_YT i remember, and ill be coming for that old mic, mr dyscalculic bond
@@Pigpen_YT what mic you use by any chance because it picks up your voice really well iv been looking for a good mic myself
Ok, so I love that you refuse to spoil the short films, particularly the good ones, and feel that the early mention of spoilers from Avengers helpfully impacted this editorial direction. 10/10 for consistent world view. I can't wait for the next iceberg.
I think the wildest thing about this iceberg video is that the star wars movies aren't this long. Research, recording, and editing all this must've taken an ungodly amount of time.
outside of the last jedi, I'm fairly certain this is longer than all of them. It was hell to make
@@Pigpen_YT last Jedi was hell to watch
@@SewagePickledon’t let him hear you say that, he’ll call you a racist
@@zzodysseuszz yeah man you got it
@@zzodysseuszzwhat
Fun Fact: Jake Lloyd started a rumor that were was a 6-Hour Cut of TPM & he said the voice actor of Grevious thought it was great. This was either likely an assembly cut or Lloyd made it up (which is the most likely scenario).
This channel churns out very high quality content very quickly for being so small. Its easy to see theres a lot of passion going into these videos.
Thanks. I try
@@Pigpen_YT well you succeed
@@Pigpen_YT Do or do not, There is no try, and you do
Fr I don’t know how mans does it he’s a goat
You can tell it’s driven from pure passion
There's something goddamn incredible about palpatine being so flabbergasted by what he's just heard that he doesnt have anything wise or witty to say but he's just like "...what?"
This reminds me of when my English teacher said "Native speakers do not say 'What?', it is considered rude"
@@saulgoodmanKAZAKH that teacher is a damn liar
@@peytonk5062 she was preparing me for an exam (it's called IELTS) and I can see why she told me to avoid that. On exams you gotta use actual professional lexicon
Really wish 1313 could’ve been finished, I’ve always been fascinated with the underground and slums of Coruscant and exploring them as Boba Fett would’ve been amazing
yea its sad that we’ve never seen much of a more large scale new york underground aspect in star wars
You could said that 1313 got excuteded during order 66
My favorite wookieepedia article is always going to be the most comfortable chair ever designed
I really like all of the unique reviews of the final Iceberg levels in your iceberg videos. Instead of just reviewing them like the other levels, you add your own touches to them, by making it like a character is discussing these points as if they were conspiracy theories (cuz most of them are). It’s a really neat touch that I feel sets your iceberg videos apart from others!
Facts couldn't find a way to word it but yeah it's great I think immersive is the word but I'm not sure omfai
"Giant meat rock" is the best thing I've ever heard
This is one of my favorite videos on this channel. Not only for the in-depth research put into the iceberg but also the comment section for the large amount of copium and expository essays I find on here. Here's hoping we get a part 2 one day. Keep being based, Pigpen
Quick complaint for the franchise: Can we please explore more planets beside Tatooine!?
I'm surprised "Scene 38" didn't make it into the Fandom section with how big it was on release.
Holy fuck I’m an idiot. HOW DID I FORGET THAT
@@Pigpen_YT It’s only human to make that mistake. I remember losing my shit when seeing that. A extremely good fan film. Now theirs a animated fan series adapting the original thrawn trilogy and its outstanding given it’s being animated by one guy with no budget
@@luckykennedy7364 the only think I don't like about it is the shaky cam, the rest is just awesome. The intercut ANH scenes that meshed it with the original is such a great touch
Sequel fans: I can’t believe people hate our films
Prequel fans:join the club
the hate for the Prequels has died down to a weird degree. I like them, but now you've got people holding them up as masterpiece epics just to justify their level of hatred against the Sequels. it's weird! star wars has always been a bit bumpy!
There’s a browser exclusive Lego Star Wars The Clone Wars game that I used to play as a kid. I tried finding it awhile ago but it seems to be lost. It seems to be very obscure and it’d be cool if you talked about it in a lego iceberg.
are you talking about LEGO Star Wars: The Quest for R2-D2? I don’t think it’s playable now that flash got axed but I remember it
That game was amazing to kid me before I had a PS2 or a computer
Holy shit I remember that game
that's the clone wars beta. I found at internet that someone reuploaded the game, but it does need flash player to run in your browser
I remember playing something like that lol
Says no toxicity then proceeds to make fun of jediism
So he decides to poke fun at fans taking the movies too seriously and that's toxic? This is the same as Harry Potter fans using their houses as their personality traits
@usernamepassword7951 jediism isn't hurting anyone its just about being selfless and bettering yourself
@@JacksonIsDeath and neither is poking fun at a part of the fan base that takes things way to seriously
@@usernamepassword236 he's being a hypocrit lol
@@JacksonIsDeath not really he's not going out of his way to harass people for who they are
Honestly with a few tweaks, the “duel of the fates” movie could’ve been kind of interesting. Change up hux’s lines, connect the kylo vs Vader fight with the world between worlds, let phasms stay dead, get rid of Rey/Poe, boom now we’re laughing
Imagine what Lego Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga could've been like if we got it!
I really like the last segment with the robot voice, most icebergs just play some creepy music on the deepest layer but this works so much better its the droid voice without underlying music is not only topical but also quite unsettling without being explicitly meant to be scary...
Ahreed
I wish I lived in the timeline where Michael Jackson plays Jar Jar Binks
Battlefront Elite Squadron was one of my favorite games as a kid. getting to go from inside a capital ship, hop in a fighter and get into dogfights was great. I know there were other more grounded levels too where you could play as Jedi and sith, but man it was so immersive for me as a kid
should have mentioned that peter serafinowicz was the original voice of maul and was about to reprised his role in solo but got replaced by witwer
He did reprise his role I believe. They had both him and Witwer record their lines and chose from there.
@@ultrabigfellabrutal. I'm glad they gave Serafinowicz a chance, but Witwer was on his A-game then. never stood a chance.
My man Jacen Solo should have had a spot in tier 3, as he was something else, especially after his fall. If you interrupted him while he was using battle meditation, you best believe you were dead when the battle was over. He killed Mara Jade, he attempted to burn the Kashyyyk world-forest, he tortured Luke's son, Ben, in an effort to turn the boy, he kidnapped and threatened to kill his own daughter when his gf wouldn't give him her fleet, used Anakin Solo as a bargaining chip to lure Tahiri Veila, and he operated on a weird philosophy of using the dark side but not being corrupted by it to justify the atrocities he committed. I cannot believe he wasn't there somewhere :(
The story of Alex Guinness and that kid always just makes me really fucking sad. Like I feel so bad for that poor kid.
Actually Alec Guinnes exaggerated the story. The kids did not actually start crying.
I thought a 5 day wait was a little excessive until I saw this released on May 4th.
Well played
Listen man, I don't want to give anyone the wrong idea, but is it really necessary to bring up all the toxicity and "the fandom menace" and such? Like your intro kinda threw me off there. I liked your Batman iceberg and was interested in this one but idk. I understand the Star Wars fan base is all over the place and there is SOME toxicity but again, was the disclaimer really needed and why is it aimed specifically at "the fandom menace"?
Like don't get me wrong, this is a good video, your icebergs are great! I'm sorry if you've had any issue with other fans or something, that disclaimer just seems really unnecessary and all this mention of toxicity kinda seems self-defeating in a way.
Wanted to get that off my chest. Still a good video and nice that you're promoting other channels and good parts of the franchise
I am extremely tired of dealing with the Fandom Menace and toxic members of the Star Wars community. They're everywhere. The single biggest Star Wars content creator works with these people and has a community filled with these people. I just want to talk about my favorite franchise in peace without shitbags going "muh sjw, decanon the sequel trilogy, there's a civil war in lucasfilm, you're a fake fan" and all that.
Any Star Wars content I produce, which I will do more of, will not be friendly to these types of people. I want nothing to do with them. The opening message is meant to make those kinds of people not want to watch. They may leave a nasty little comment that I'll laugh about or respond to if I'm in the mood but overall I do not want them watching my content.
This goes for any community, I never put one in the Batman iceberg or the Spider-Man one or the Transformers one or the Cowboy Bebop one, etc because those communities, while having toxic parts, are ones I rarely see. The Star Wars fandom however, all you gotta do is search Star Wars on youtube or twitter and you'll almost be instantly meant with videos and comments of being bad people.
I get what you mean by your comment and not mad by it at all so if it seemed like I was annoyed with you or anything, I apologize, that wasn't even remotely my intention.
@@Pigpen_YT sorry to hear that dude. I understand the paranoia of it all and how exhaustive it can be. There's extremes on both sides but I guess it makes sense. It just seems kinda self defeating to not want any drama or toxicity or to attract the fandom menace while bringing it up several times and having the disclaimer be the first thing we hear. Sometimes it's better to ignore it and not bring it up. Again it threw me off but I guess I understand why you did it. Not like it can be changed now anyways. This is a good video and it's nice that you're trying to promote the nicer parts of the franchise and fans.
@@Pigpen_YT I hate that sjw clickbait shit too. I don't like the sequels because of their stupid story and lack of any real logic. Doesn't mean I'll condemn you for liking it.
I for one am kind of glad you mentioned that in the opening. It's sad that it has to be said at all since being a fan means you shouldn't hate other fans, but it is what it is.
Shout out to Darth Nihilus.
The Sith Lord who had the munchies so bad that he ate planets faster than the death star could charge up and blow them up.
Could be considered the Galactus of the Star Wars Universe, if you don't take the "Galactus is a force of universal balance" bit into consideration.
At that point he wasn't even a Sith Lord anymore. He was more akin to a Dark Side entity if anything
This is probably the most comprehensive Iceberg I’ve ever seen. I never knew Star Wars history went THIS deep. Kudos my guy! Excited to see what you do next!
2:34:44 "None of them will be this long ever again"
*A year later*
COD Remastered and Batman Part 2 are both over 2 hours long
Dude, the amount of effort you put into this video is INSANE. Seriously, it’s two and a half hours of stuff I had never heard about from the fandom. You’re probably one of my favorite small youtubers right now, keep it up!
I previously watched your Batman iceberg. I REALLY love your long iceberg videos, maybe because I like icebergs in general, and also use them as background noise during class.
Maybe you'll do a video on the Smash Bros or lost media iceberg?
Smash Bros and Lost Media have already been covered pretty extensively. I'd recommend Blameitonjorge and All Things Lost's Lost Media icebergs and
NEScRETRO's Smash Bros iceberg. You can't top those
@@Pigpen_YT You sure can't top 'em.
I've seen all 3 and they're some of the highest quality iceberg videos i've ever seen (alongside yours, of course)
Do you know about the S.T.A.L.K.E.R series of games? There is an iceberg for them, but it's quite confusing. I'd probably recommend the Metal Gear iceberg linked here, many of the things on it won't need too much research:
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Every time I think I'm done with Star Wars I love coming back to this video to find my love for star wars again.
I feel like the actors not liking Star Wars are similar to actors who don’t want to be in big superhero movies, it kinda ties you down in some aspects because people will remember you for it.
that and literally any interview you do you're gonna get asked about those movies. I mean look at Harrison Ford. Dude's done tons of films but nearly all of them people go "So Han Solo..." like god damn, leave the dude alone
What's even funnier about the Holiday Special is that apparentely Carrie Fisher asked George Lucas for a copy of it, since he wanted her to do a dvd c9mmentary. She I guess played it at parties and get people to piss off.
I guess he reluctantely accepted, which is hilarious to think that he actually had like 1 copy tucked away somewhere, for whatever reason...
All I’m saying is that if you wanted a twist as good as “I am your father” than Jar Jar being a sith lord would have been it.
I actually really respect that you like the new movies/canon, even though I really only like The Force Awakens out of the sequels.
We need more people like you
Same.
Has shitty star wars takes changed? Because from what I remember when I still used Twitter, they called out some stuff, like "over sexualized" fanart, but ignored stuff like people attacking Mark Hamill over wishing to have had a scene of the OT cast together. So they only called out toxicity from one side of the fandom while ignoring the other
i love the last jedi. its the only sequel i think is good. but holy fucking shit sequel fans and last jedi fan boys can be quite toxic. even hello greedo's discord (which he has no real involment in) ive heard can be a cesspool of "wut you dont like the sequel? must be dumb or toxic" kind of thing. ive been blocked by people when i (in a thread defending the last jedi) had something bad to say about almighty rose. plus theyll lable u with ist phobes and as a nazi etc. plus usually when someone makes an opinion piece on why they dont like it theyre just quick to delegitimize/disregard it through the most superficial shallow things imaginable., granted i hate how haters act like the film was the equivalent to rian violently raping luke and mark while kathleen sat and watched and laughed tho. and ofc im still seeing dumb journos acting like only trolls hate this film and even going as far as to call its hate unfounded. i love the last jedi but the discourse around it really shows the internet was a mistake. u cant have a calm discussion about it without one side being a hyperbolic nut case acting like this is a political view or argument. rant over but god this fandom sux.
edit: honestly the best way i can sum up the discourse is fanboys see detractors as neo nazi close minded bigots. and haters see enjoyers as literal flat earthers and fake fans
About Jediism. When you enlist, they put your religious preference on your dog tags. Well in one of my platoons we had a guy who picked Jedi for his and it was on his tags, then another guy from a different platoon but same barracks had his tags with Sith on his lol
That had to have been awkward.
Cool video, I've been a star wars fangirl since I was a kid, I grew up reading the expanded universe books, comics, and listening to the audiobooks. Not too keen on the new canon/ canon, but, I'm always curious when hearing about what new lore is created to replace the old lore.
This was a great video!
Whenever I see or hear about Star Wars:1313,I die a little inside. It looked so good and the fact we'll most likely never see it makes me want to cry.
The guys behind IMPS are apparently, _still_ working. If you're subbed to them, they've posted updates in the form of special effects demos. Something might even come soon.
What chads.
I'm a little upset that i hadn't made this first, or atleast a part of it (i had planned on making a cancelled games/kotor iceberg) but honestly I'm glad you had done it instead, considering i barely knew any of the fan films or most of the non game things. Though I do have every cancelled game documented so if you missed any i have a list of them.
Oh also your mic is leagues better than mine lol
I'm not surprised, an iceberg video about Star Wars is this long. I actually expected it to be longer, considering every creature on screen in every movie has a long Wikipedia page about them.
Seeing those old Clone Wars bumpers from Cartoon Network again made me feel like a kid again, watching every single episode when it came out. Thank you for reminding me those existed
0:52 no toxicity of any kind, but people have to leave your channel if they like a certain movie in the franchise.
Yeah he’s a retard
No they need to leave if they feel superior for disliking a movie other people like also if they harass and bully people
Great video man! I'm a huge Star Wars and Star Wars legends nerd, and didn't know the vast majority of the stuff on this list. Earned a sub
32:05 Contrary to popular belief, George was heavily involved in Legends. He barred anyone from using the Clone Wars until Episode 2 came out and every piece of legends media had to be approved by him.
Approved and involved with writing the stories are completely different things. The dude deadass said he doesn’t even consider them canon
@@Pigpen_YT Well I didn’t say he considered the EU to be canon, but his influence is definitely there
@@noodles7193 well yeah. He created star wars so his influence is quite literally in everything star wars
Wow I've been enjoying these iceberg videos, discovered these a few days ago and the whole time I'm thinking this channel has subscribers on level with wendigoon or SunnyV2 or something like that. If u keep making content like this u will have yourself a nice lil blowup in no time, so keep it up! You've certainly earned yourself a new subscriber/viewer. 😄
Hey Pigpen I'd love to see a second Star Wars Iceberg in the future given all the shows released since the first one. Maybe after Filoni's 'Heir to the Empire' film is out as it's apparently gonna be the culmination of the MandoVerse.
The people in this comment section who are malding about you liking the sequels are hilarious, they dont seem to understand that people can like em if they want to. Loved the vid btw!
Personally, I don't like the sequels. But if somebody else does, who am I to put them down? Hell, I enjoy the prequels, so I don't have a right to judge sequel fans. It's all star Wars, and in the spirit of star Wars. Each film brings new characters, lore, and creatures to explore, which is what I love about star Wars is the unique content to get into. Let us rise above the MHA and Warrior Cat fandom 🙏
@@personofpowera.b.c990 you mean prequels? Unfortunately, obi wan is not in the sequels...
We know that you glaze retconing something amazing and creating miserable continuation out of it, but if you are true Star Wars fan you wouldn't say that you enjoy the new movies, so suit yourself as being enemy of true fans xdd NewCanon just sucks
@@Rubydrawzan example of there being two types of prequel fans haha
@@klatajakupirata4206what did the sequels retcon? Also you are in the vocal minority
You're a fan of star wars? name every star and war
Edit: Good vid man, keep up the good work and hope you get more views/subs
You have no idea how tempted I was to try and name every war in star wars
@@Pigpen_YT dew it
Small nit-pick, but Boba's EE-3 is actually built off a Webley Mk 1 Flare Pistol, not the service revolver.
dumbass should've used that flare gun to get help escaping the sarlacc
@@Pigpen_YT lmao
@@Pigpen_YT, why lower yourself to a mere flare gun when you have a literal homing rocket strapped to your back?
I love that this iceberg covers things by category instead from most know to obscure. I would love to see more icebergs like this.
ben was such a great community manager, wish we got a couple more characters and a map before ben left and dice stopped working on battlefront
As a casual Star Wars fan, I’m glad this iceberg exists.
17:32 The best part is that Reddit unarchived all their posts recently so you can go back and downvote it now if you haven't
@2:04:30 the GBA version of RotS is the same as the DS version but without touch controls. Honestly a great hidden gem on the consoles.
"I hope Battlefield 6 is good"
"Lol." DICE said. "Lmao."
Another winner! As someone with a passing knowledge of star wars this was fun and informative. Looking forward to the next one!
For someone who keeps championing anti-toxicity, you sure do make quite a lot of smarmy, negative comments and judgments about things. Just so long as no one is trashing stuff *_you_* like, huh?
yeah man you got it bro
He owned you with his sarcastic response 😎😎😎😎 hahaha loser get rekt
Actually, Padme's death is rooted in science. Takotsubo cardiomyopathy (Broken Heart Syndrome) is incredibly rare, but very real, and potentially lethal even in healthy people. It's also more common in women.
Not really if you look at padme she just give life to her babies
49:17 - 49:22; The sequence mentioned here must've been cut late given it's a MASSIVE section of the Revenge of the Sith game. Likewise with Anakin killing Cin Drallig and Anakin killing Wat Tambor.
On the first level you forgot about the insanely fun arcade fan game "battle of yavin" and "battle of endor" that can be downloaded on mod database. This is very obscure and i really wish more people knew about it
Can’t wait for the remake of the iceberg this December. I always look forward to your videos. Very well done every time imo. My view is that Star Wars has always had toxicity. Before Disney it was OT vs Prequels, now it’s Disney vs everything else basically lol. I have my opinions but I see both sides of enjoyment. Unfortunate to see the hate carry over to both sides though. Regardless on viewpoints I’d figure Star Wars fans, content creators, and even Lucasfilm themselves would’ve learned to just let the hate go. Unfortunately that hasn’t been the case. Besides all of that Star Wars will still always be one of my favorite franchises and your videos will always be a favorite of mine. Keep up the good work. May the force be with you.
Rewatching this video rn, since I'm getting back into Star Wars, mainly towards legends stuff, through the Dark Forces games, and I wanted to say that you did a good job on this iceberg! Have you ever thought about making a sequel to this iceberg, btw? Also, what are your thoughts on the Star Wars shows that have come out since this video was uploaded and how much has your opinion changed on the canon?
I very much love the canon timeline. All three seasons of the Mandalorian, Andor Bad Batch, and Obi-Wan Kenobi are fantastic. Tales of the Jedi, Book of Boba Fett and Ahsoka are okay. Don’t care about Visions.
As for a part 2, I’d rather just remake this video instead
@@Pigpen_YTbro you still look at comments from a three year old vid, nice 👍
Hi first time viewing, when you mentioned IMPS, which is my absolute favorite piece of Star Wars media since Empire, I almost sat up in bed, and screamed "yeah IMPS baby" out load at ten am when most of my neighborhood is still asleep
Watched through the whole thing and I gotta say I was not bored at all massive props to you man you have my subscription can’t wait for more content!
2:11:43 Funny how Lego recently decided to make Darth Jar Jar official at the time of typing this lol.
MESSA GOING TO HURT YOUSA.
Love the video Pigpen! I'm sad that you didn't touch on RedLetterMedia's Phantom Menace review unless I missed it, but overall a great deep dive into Star Wars.
"Star Wars explained Is a great anti toxicity channel"
*Calls people who dont like the sequels sexist And racist*
Other than that disagreement, great video man
Objectively not true. If that were the case he’s calling himself that because he doesn’t really like ROS. Stop believing everything you read from dumbass reactionaries
@@Pigpen_YT Theres literaly a clip of them saying it, And even after it they recieved backlash from IT they called them "Salty fanboys", they also said that before ROS came out
Im not believing in any "Dumbass reactioners", Theres evidence
@@Pigpen_YT Also, they attacked Star Wars Theory
@@breadsqueeze27 there’s no clip. If there is send it.
@@Pigpen_YT And redpilled
Correction: George Lucas Actually had paper for ideas they can and can’t do, so he was actually involved with EU projects
Man aside from the Rey and Poe stuff that duel of the fates script still sounds so sick to me, I really don’t care for the existing episode 9 so to know we could have had that instead just makes me so sad
I do not like the Disney Canon. The George Lucas films and the Extended Universe will be my canon
Ever notice that the people who champion the Disney sequels really hate it that you can choose to ignore their canon? There's a weird element of tyranny in it.
@@Marcara081 Odd
@@Marcara081 fr
I'm kind of glad you didn't do the title crawl because my ears almost got blasted just now
Final tier: "losing the will to live", aka: Broken Heart Syndrome, a legit medical condition where severe emotional trauma can weaken the heart enough to kill you. Still think it was a weak way to explain her death? Droids aren't going to understand that, my guy and truth is often stranger than fiction. People really need to be more aware of this condition. It's logical, it's realistic, and it explains Padme's demise pretty well when you look at HOW she ended up that way.
What do I think? Why not both? Padme had her heart broken by Anakin's betrayal, she was injured by him, and she was pregnant on top of THAT, never mind being near-term at the time. One kid is rough on the female body. Imagine it with twins. No wonder she passed. Palpatine probably took whatever lifeforce was still left in her and sped up the process.
Actually no. It was explained that Palpatine was draining her of "life energy" to sustain Anakin as he was going through his surgerys
@@wyattborden1377 I'll do it one better. It was all of it. Draining her life force and preexisting trauma can do it. It doesn't have to be just Palpatine doing Sith things.
Seth Rogan be exactly like a king, out of touch and completely loco. Lmao.
49:57 ive watched this video 10+ times now: everry time i hear this bit i get flashbacks to playing the lego star wars game. probably bc yoda and obiwan was the greatested team up in lego history.
1:58:58 you say that but nobody expected Chris Pratt Mario...and we have him now
People complain about the music in the Star Wars Hotel but if it looks and sounds like that dance game near the end of this video I’ll pay to stay there
1:30:00 - 1:30:09: Honestly I've heard people complain more about the lack of variety in superweapons than how many there are. The Death Star, a slightly bigger Death Star, a Death Star made out of a planet that can blow up multiple targets at once AND a fleet of Star Destroyers all turned into mini Death Stars. ALL of these are basically the same thing.
I could go into the BIG lore problem with the Final Order fleet but on this occasion I won't.
Squad 42 and that era of Lego Star Wars stop motion was the greatest era of YT, you cannot argue against this.
Agreed, so many classics from back then
In hindsight, thanks to Rebels, the Maul game could've worked if Talon was his apprentice before Ezra and explain how he got stuck on Malachor. Also, maybe have Talon get stuck in stasis somehow with Darth Krayt freeing her in the future, hence why she's loyal to him? I'll have to read the Legacy comics again to see if they gave her a backstory...
Also, thanks to the World Between Worlds, I really want to see more Star Wars alternate timelines/Infinites. One where Mace Windu succeeded in killing Palpatine and one where Luke accepted Vader's offer in Empire Strikes Back.
Edit: A clone of Luke is a pretty interesting idea on paper, but the execution was iffy. Maybe change his name and have him be the one working with Thrawn from the get go instead of that Corus guy?
I like the name of the clone, luuke. Its said the same but spelt with another u showing two of you. Its genius.
Gotta say, I love the epic quality of your iceberg making. Is this one looking to be more expansive than the one Sombraptor covered?
all I'll say is it's 2 hours and forty minutes long
Rewatching this after Bad Batch season 2 and I just realized some of the scrapped clone wars episodes were probably made into Bad Batch episodes, specifically the Wookie and Zillo beast ideas
That’s what I love about SW animation. If something gets scrapped in one project it usually finds itself being reworked into another
an Anakin and Padme ship could technically be called Anime
Yea why is the "official" name for that pairing Anidala when freaking ANIME has always been right there as a possibility? Come on, people who ship them. You had _one_ job
Thank you for including Empire of Dreams. I too watched this film several times in my childhood and totally forgot about it until this video. Amazing documentary
By becoming so anti-toxic, he has become the very thing he swore to destroy
Star Wars quote
Don't lecture me Obi-Wan
Jessie what the fuck are you talking about
You would probably enjoy Gold Man's Star Wars videos, he is easily one of my favorite non-toxic SW channels.
Edit: this is my third time watching this video fully, great content.
"non toxic"
How do you tell us that you're not really a Star Wars fan without telling us you're not really a Star Wars fan?
Oh right, if you're only here to appropriate a hobby or an interest held by a larger group so that you can use it as a platform for your particular political fetish. If you can't enjoy, understand, or process something unless it's spoon-fed to you like a child while patting you on the back and telling you you're a good person just for existing, then I don't know what to tell you.
@@sourdough_ak998if you need to hate people for being who they are then you're not an adult and don't have the mental capacity to understand anything
@@sourdough_ak998 what are you talking about right now ?
@@floatingmoney3846 clown babies who only like star wars because it "was" popular. But that was...month, years ago now? 😂😂😂 The brand has continued to tank amazingly since then, because of the same "REEEEEE anyone whom likes actua storytelling is a toxic bigot!" zoomer behavior. They just ruin everything. 😂
TIL there is a timeline with Freddy Krueger Han Solo... why can't I live in that one?
Star Wars explained the best Star Wars channel ever
Jedi Academy has updated multiple times over the last year but nobody can seem to find what was updated. They are super small updates
Network changes? Only thing i couls think that would need updates to remain usable.
8:36 you know you’d think the council would be concerned about 5 Jedi’s going missing but no they don’t
If I may ask, why do you dislike the Prequel Trilogy but like the Sequel Trilogy???
I don’t like the acting, the CGI, the writing and a lot of the action. I think a lot of the lightsaber duels from the prequels are overrated. I like the ideas of the prequels and love the era. I just wish the writing and acting were a lot better. Also outside of Dooku and Palpatine, I don’t think the villains are all that great. Maul’s my second favorite SW character but only for his roles in Clone Wars and Rebels. I think he’s very boring in TPM. Grievous is cool in ROTS but he has far too little screen time.
Meanwhile I love most of the characters from the ST, love most of the fights, writing and themes. Also think the CG is far more consistent and the villains are all great even if I’m still not super big on Palpatine coming back.
Music from both trilogies are insanely good tho
@@Pigpen_YT Fair. I'll be honest, I adore everything about the Prequels. I think it's peak Star Wars. Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith are my second and most favourite Star Wars films respectively. And I've only watched half of Season 1 of Clone Wars, so I'm not part of the 'the Prequels are made good by the Prequels' crowd. I think they're perfectly fine as is.
The Sequel Trilogy meanwhile, a lot of its good aspects are for me overshadowed by its issues;
. The Force Awakens is fine but it's objectively the most safe and generic thing they could've made. Starkiller Base is just a Death Star made out of a planet, the Resistance is just the Rebels again (with X-Wings again, Y-Wings again, A-Wings again etc), The First Order is just the Empire again but shinier and sleeker (with Stormtroopers again, TIE Fighters/Bombers again, AT-ATs again, AT-STs again etc)... Like come on some original stuff please. Also compared to the Original Trilogy and ESPECIALLY the Prequel Trilogy the world building is nonexistent (it sorta is throughout the entire Sequel Trilogy but ESPECIALLY here given The Force Awakens is set 30 years after Return of the Jedi SOME would've gone a long way), especially as I'm someone who just adores that stuff. It gets points for being the only film where Finn gets anywhere close to reaching his potential though.
. The Last Jedi is my fourth favourite Star Wars film. It's a gorgeous, deep, thought provoking film that's brave as fuck and (major hottake) has my favourite performance from Hamill as Luke, and is hurt only by how it's kinda fucked as the middle chapter of a Trilogy.
. You know my thoughts on Rise of Shitwalker already I think. 😂😂😂
Also you mentioned the music, I think that the Sequel Trilogy music is kinda bland. The Original Trilogy's music is more iconic and the Prequel Trilogy's music is even more iconic than the Original Trilogy's stuff (to me anyway).
@@tritonk1759 I agree it needed more world building but thankfully novels, comics and shows will be giving us that in the future. As for ships mainly being the same I agree they should've done some different things (though I think the AT-M6 and FO TIE Bombers are fairly well designed and new. Same with the Bunkerbuster, Resistance bombers and Supremacy.)
As for the music, I agree it's the weakest of the three trilogies but it still has some bangers. Rey's theme, Battle of Crait, The Jedi Steps and Finale, Ahch-To Island, The Spark, Anthem of Evil, Approaching the Throne and Farewell. I reccomend giving those tracks in particular a chance. They're really good
@@Pigpen_YT I'll give them a listen. I've already done so for Rey's theme in the past and I think it's just OK, but I'll give it another go.
I will say that Kylo's theme and the Resistance theme both slap. I also really like the Throne Room fight theme, mostly I will confess because that sequence is just amazing. Yes it's got problems but I don't really care it's just so big and spectacular.
Also I'll agree on for example the Resistance Bombers. The Last Jedi also gave us the First Order Dreadnought and Gorilla-esque AT-ATs. Rian Johnson seemed to actually try to give us some new stuff.
@@tritonk1759 honestly tfa isn't that safe only thing safe is explaining the force and that's that lol. starkiller base is like the death star in one quality and that's that like its laser is far more powerful and destructive and can be split and go through hyperspace. the first order isn't really the empire since they don't control the galaxy and they ceterinatly are a type of imperial remnant even tho people don't like saying that for the first order when it is technically tho. the only thing they got as the empire is look and is a successor state but thats it. they more connected to the darkside/sith more than the empire in Ogrins. The resistance isn't like a carbon copy of the rebels because the rebels were fighting a power that controlled the whole galaxy. They also were just more of a fringe group. I would say there more original stuff in the movie especially with rey and the new force powers. Also, saying that starkiller base, first order, resistance makes this film not original and say that needed to is fine opinion but it's really unfair in way. Honestly there is enough worldbuilding there and we have the other worldbuilding from the other films so i would say thats a little unfair, I do wish we saw the new separatist's union. Like for example the first odrder and how there were some much foreshadowed especially to snokes death that's worldbuilding. some this just seems unfair
Update: The Rise of Skywalker's Comic Adaption has been uncancelled. The first Issue is scheduled to be released in February.
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1:59:06 Nobody expected Chris Pratt to replace Charles Martinet as Mario
27:50 Pigpen 077 you know that Disney would shut down that sequel project quicker than Nintendo with fan made games with their intellectual properties. Also happy May the 4th and can’t wait for your next video.
Good. I would be happy if it was shut down
Bro really said “leftist king”
the left on top
KickAss Video man I love how much time and thought you put into these
PS: Still waiting on the SpiderMan IceBerg :PPP
already got most of the actual image made. Might be the next one. Either that or the MCU. Regardless Spider-Man is coming
Fun fact: Tri-Klops is also the name of a character from He-Man.
Yes, Palpatine's son shares his name with an Eternian villain.