DEWALT 20V MAX CORDLESS 21 DEGREE FRAMING NAILER!! Model DCN21PL
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- Опубликовано: 15 окт 2024
- Check out the new Dewalt 20Volt Max 21 Degree Cordless Framing Nailer Kit, model number DCN21PL. This tool will be launched in September of 2018. I'm thankful to The Home Depot and being a member of their ProSpective Program, so I can give you a first hand look at this tool before it launches. The kit includes the nail gun, a carrying bag, 20V 4Ah battery, no-mar tip, and a battery charger. This tool is completely cordless, so there's no need for a generator, compressor, fuel, air hose, etc. Please let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to respond.
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I am a homeowner with a day job who does not do anything construction related for a living. That being said I am working on framing out my basement and Bought this ruclips.net/user/postUgkxHQsUrwNr5GQrnx9V4xDdUr56qxwuiBHt gun. I have done a few walls already, have probably shot a couple hundred nails through this thing and have yet to have a misfire. It works awesome, good depth on every nail if you have your compressor set right. My literal only complaint is that it is a bit heavy and my arm can get a little tired especially whrn I am nailing at odd angles. That being said I am super happy with it and would buy it again. Hoping the old girl allows me to get my whole basement finished out!
I just got this gun and it is amazing. With Battery Technology like it is today I've literally cut the cord on all my tools. And only use battery power and get better performance now. I have two big DeWalt bags full of batteries and they last me about a month before I have to recharge again.
Wow, that's awesome. I used to have to haul a generator and compressor to run my Senco framing nailer at jobsites.
Cordless nailers are high high on my list of needs. I got to use a friends and fell in love. And, I thought DeWalt already had a cordless nailer out? I dont think cordless will ever replace framers and roofers pneumatic. Those boys have them pneumatic nailers down to a art.
This is a new version DeWalt is introducing next month. I've been wondering if a roofing nailer will soon be battery powered....
Their old one is 30-34degree nails for some reason. This takes the more common 21deg
You'll probably just see cordless slowly take over in the renovation and repair market. If you're doing production framing for a townhouse complex or something the chances are you have a compressor and power set up nearby and it wont take long to move. If you're a contractor doing a large number of small jobs though, the cordless units will probably win big time in productivity, since you wont have to pack up and move your pneumatic setup to a different job and send time setting it up, and there's no hassle of having all that shit crowding your small work space.
In fairness though, it should be said that the cordless units can do everything the pneumatic units can do (just a bit slower in fire rate), but the pneumatic units cant necessarily do everything the cordless units can, in respect to mobility. Battery runtime is not a realistic concern as long as you're not a cheapskate or an idiot; as long as you get another battery and remember to put it on the charger you'll never be able to burn through one before the other charges.
0hypnotoad0 as a Remodeler on high end properties with fitting 2 fast $500 jobs makes for a profitable day.
Thank you so much for this video I am looking at buying this for myself as a single country girl I am building my tool belt up and this is on my NEXT NEED list.
You can really get a lot done with this framer. Do you mostly use DeWalt tools?
Would love to see the Crazy Framer give this nail gun a go on his RUclips channel. 21 degree plastic over 30 degree paper is the way to help eliminate jams.
Interesting, I'll have to check that out.
Very nice gun. Mine is comming next Tuesday December 11. I can't wait to work with that nailer.
Thanks, it's amazing to have a framing nailer without a compressor or air hose to run it.
Solid review!!! I couldn't really find one that was really in depth like yours! Thanks for an awesome video. I'll have to pick one up soon. Do construction for a living and been wanting to try it out! Thankyou!
Thanks! I've always wanted something cordless and this works very well for me. It's so nice not having to drag around a compressor, hose, and oil.
Thx for the video my gun got jammed. And we didn't know what to do in tell we saw the video.
Glad to help, hope it's back up and running.
The first power that came up with this design was Hetachi, I almost bought the hetachi but then I didn’t want to buy another set of different brand of battery, So I’m glad Dewalt came up with this
This one has some nice power. I've find it to be consistent for driving nails in for wall framing situations.
The DCN21PL 20V is good for occasional framing but would never make any progress in production framing. I use the 20V platform in a number of different DeWalt tools but I'll stick to my Bostitch pnuematic nail guns. Everything I need (guns, nails, hoses, compressor, and, yes, a little bottle of oil all fit nicely in my work van. There is no time delay (warmup) with air-driven guns. I like that!
I bought one without knowing it does that and I’m pretty mad about it. Even ryobi has one that nails without a warm up which is embarrassing for Dewalt.
Cool! I love these cordless nail guns
They're awesome! No hose, compressor, etc.
Thanks, I'm buying this
Gosh I’m so glad I got a Milwaukee one
I was using my Milwaukee one today and it really did a great job.
Ok i bought 1 in swapmeet for 180, supposedly like new but when i used it , didnt hit nail in deep, i dont think i gotta wait for a second to push trigger plus the 1, would not turn on, im kinda new to cordless framin nails, btw i did returned it
Very thorough review. Thx-a-million!
Interested in buying one. Do you know wether you are limited to dewalt nails only!
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eti3000 thank you! It works with other nail brands too!
Thx bro!!! Appreciate the response!
That would be great for roof framing. No hoses to drag around. I'm heavily invested in the Milwaukee M18 platform and have been waiting for years for them to come out with a framing nailer. Still nothing.
Yes, it's great when there's no hose to drag around. It would be interesting to see Milwaukee come out with one.
Same for me but with ryobi
I invested in the Hitachi cordless nailers. Lifetime tool warranty. Beats DeWalt and no rampup time. I use DeWalt and Milwaukee mostly but the Hitachi guns are life changing
@@MichaelJordan-hn4zdso you've used both dewalt and Hitachi cordless framing nailer?
@@oscarmoreno1316 yes I have the older version of the DeWalt 30 degree nailer. I used it alot until I got the Hitachi 21 degree. If you get the DeWalt and ever have a lot of jamming issues, try using the flexvolt batteries. It worked for me. But I still think the Hitachi is better
With the gun shoot plastic and paper collated?
thank you so much for you are video
I 've wondered this product .
Glad it was helpful!
Great video and nice nail gun
Thank you! This is such a handy tool. I love not needing a compressor.
Your video helped me because I was undecided on which one to get, and thanks to you I am going to get this one tomorrow.
I just purchased this gun and used it on a small project. I am not a fan of how the magazine loads. I started having issues with the nails not loading tight enough or even falling out while using it. In my opinion, the feed latch needs to be redesigned.
I haven't noticed the latch issue or any nails falling out. I'll have to take a closer look next time.
It is nice. How long will the battery last before a recharge is necessary? Years ago, the owner of the property had to provide electrical current before trademen arrived on the job site to power the equipment. It is a shame that the times have changed making the trademen provide power for their equipment on a job site.
I've seen it advertised somewhere that this will shoot 845 nails per charge. I've only had the nailer for a short time and it's still on 3 bars of power after firing off 5-6 strips of nails.
I just got mine yesterday and I shot about 200 nails and I still had three bars on a 4 amp hour battery.
So I just bought one used (very little) it is in great condition. I didn’t get a manual with it so videos like this really help. I do have a question; the battery is rated (4ah). When looking at batteries at Home Depot and Amazon, they show 20v batteries in many “ah” ratings from 2ah to 6ah. I sort of understand the difference but if I use one with a different ah rating, what will happen? Are there any good/bad to using different rated batteries?
4ah is a good all around size. You will get longer runtime with a higher ah battery. I would think the nails would still drive in the same, so matter what size battery you're running.
The bigger the number the longer the battery lasts. And a bit more power
Other than what seems to be a lot of kick-back, this looks like it would be a great nailer for me. Is that what was going on, or, were you manually lifting the gun after each shot?
No, there's kickback to it. I just used it the other day and was reminded how it does that.
If only one stick why didn’t we go shorter yet on the magazine? The reasoning it’s not shorter is because whether we went with the 1 stick or 2 stick design, the dry fire lockout still needs to be in place regardless (which adds about an additional 5 nails of capacity to both magazines). Additionally, we looked at all types of nails….ours, Grip Rite, Paslode, other generics and found that not all stick lengths are compatible (same length), so we took the length of 1 stick of the longest strip of nails we could find plus the dry fire lockout distance.
Gotcha, thanks!
I'm a regular home owner, DIY guy....what's the difference between the 21 degree and 31 degree nailer.....not sure which one I should get
I've used both nailers quite a bit and like them both. Most of the framing I've done in my construction career is with the Senco SN70, which is a 30 degree. I like the way it fits in tighter spots, due to the angle.
Lets see how it does in some Yellow pine instead of the soft white pine your using in this demo. Or shooting into LVLs. Why didn't they make it able to shoot 3 1/2 inch framing nails which is code length in North Carolina.
Hey my nail gun stopped working and my jam light comes on every time I pull the trigger
Thanks. Great review. Keep posting.
Thanks, will do!
almost faster then the hammer :P
Was the no-mar tip ever found? I would need that.
No, I wish there was some on board storage for it.
Necesito ayuda, compre una Dewalt framing grado 21, pero no prende el motor (sin clavos) cuando presiono la boquilla a la superficie, eso es normal? Hay que ponerle los clavos? Gracias
No funciona muy bien Teja los clavó muy salidos
@@rigoberto8674 ya encontré la solución. Gracias
could I use this to nail in plywood subfloor to the joist?
Absolutely!
Mark-many people suggested I even give screws a better look to do this rather than nails so the floor doesn't squeak. Any input?
In my opinion, I think you'll be fine if you glue it down and use the nail gun.
Actually you use rib shanked nails with liquid nail and your floor will never squeek. Code
Not being able to put two rows in, kind of sucks. Other than that, it’s a really good gun.
I just used it a few days ago. It's pretty awesome, but yes I'd like to see 2 rows.
Is there any way to change the track and make it shoot paslode nails? All my pneumatic guns are paslode. I’d hate to have to get 2 types of nails.
Not that I know of.
Seems decent. A little slow. I prefer hand nailing which I know would be slower but it keeps the wrist strength up. That way I know I won’t have an issue picking up my tackle box later in life.
It was one of the first battery powered ones to hit the market. It's pretty amazing compared to a pnenumatic one that requires a compressor, hose, oil, etc.
markthomasbuilder I’ll agree with ya mark. Gonna give in a another few months to see if these things fall apart. I’ll say it would be nice to not deal with parts breaking from forgetting to oil. But you know how it goes by the time I figure it out they be on the 24v system.
I really need to get one sooner then later
It's very handy to have!, just grab and go! No compressor, hoses, or oil.
Can we all agree it’s better than a hammer for driving 1000 nails. The delay helps me stay a little focused, you in that big of a hurry maybe you shouldn’t take on the job.
Yes, 💯
"That is awesome"...awesome!
Thanks, it's pretty amazing.
Does it work with only one nail measure? i mean, you can only use nails that big?
You can use different length nails and choose between galvanized or non-galv.
@@MarkThomasBuilder great! Thank you kind sir
Does it require gas or does it use pure battery power ? So many questions unanswered here,
Just battery power.
@@MarkThomasBuilder Amazing tool indeed then.
To put signs on the posts would that tool work?
Yes, 100%
Wow, cool way to shoot a nail into your foot, pretty sure I'd not put my foot that close to this power house nailer.....jmho
Great review 👍
Thank you! Cheers!
Have you had any issues with it not setting nails like previous models
So far, it's doing a great job. I have a big project coming up with it and I'll report back if things are different.
@@MarkThomasBuilder any update? did you switch back to air?
will it shoot 16d for framing?
+1 for ergonomics
I agree. DeWalt seems to be the best fit of all the brands to my grip.
Can the Dewalt be used ln a picket fence as well??
Sure, if the nail size is between 2" and 3-1/4"
I have alot of dewalt tools. But that ramp up their nailers have is killing me! I hate that! Come on Dewalt ! Please do something to change that!!
It took me a few tries to get the hang of it. It's different than using my Senco air framing nailer.
Can you use shorter nails?
It shoots as small as 2" nails and up to 3-1/4.
Still working great after two years of use?
Yes, it's working well. 👍
This is pretty cool. But not going to lie I think the new Milwaukee one kicks it’s ass.
They're both pretty cool in my opinion. The Dewalt one needs to ramp up before firing a nail.
@@MarkThomasBuilder that’s what I didn’t like about it. It also seemed like lots of people had problems with it so I sprung for the Milwaukee. It also gave me an excuse to get an m18 shop vac to go with it😂
Nice choice! I'm haven't reviewed the M12 pin nailer yet. That's another nice product in their nailer line.
How long does the battery last for a regular 6 amp hour battery?
I haven't had a chance to see how many. nails it fires off on a single charge. I'm pretty sure I'm using a 4Ah battery though. It lasts a long time for my here and there projects.
I herd there's a new one coming out this April 2020 and another one that is a coil type, I would appreciate if you can find out more about these 🙏🙏🙏
I hope to attend an event next month where DeWalt will be at. I'll post whatever I find out.
The bigger batteries give it more power and last longer but weigh it down more!
Good point. It's always a tradeoff.
Can you post the type of nails you are using
Grip-Rite 21degree 3" Galvanized Ring Shank Nails. I bought them from The Home Depot.
markthomasbuilder crap.. I was just there and I bought Dewalt 21 inch collated but it says smooth shank. I’ve read a few conflicting things online but do you think these will work ? It’s the 3 1/4 size ones
I think they'll work fine.
Whats the use of a no mar tip on a framing nailer?
I don't think it's needed really. I guess if your just shooting a few nails in a finished board, then the no mar tip is helpful.
For deck 5/4 boards or hand railing, fencing.
Can this gun nail 2x4 into concrete?
No, it can't unfortunately.
Thank you
Does it have 5G internet bluetooth 6-channel Dolby stereo?
That would be a cool feature to have in this.
Nice safety shoes...
Nice, thank you
Cool, you're welcome!
Where are your glasses from
They're 3M safety glasses. I purchased them from Lowes. I've also started wearing Milwaukee sunglasses.
Next time bend a nail or something to force jamming.
I think the DCN692 is superior because:
1) Holds 55 nails max vs this gun's 49 nails.
2) It weighs 8lbs vs this gun's 8.5lb weight.
3) It will drive 3 1/2" nails vs this gun's 3 1/4".
Can anyone tell me why/how the DCN21 is superior to the DCN692???
Those are good questions. I don't have the DCN692, so I'll have to look into it and see what the differences are. The DCN692 uses different nails, 30-34 degree. This one in the video uses 21 degree nails. DeWalt also mentions it has increased power and drive quality.
@@MarkThomasBuilder , I went to Home Depot to conduct some research on nail availability & discovered that the only 30° - 34° nails sold are Passlode brand, as opposed to the assortment of 21° available. So, in short, the only two shortcomings of the DCN692 are its 21° nail availability and also code restriction of using "D Head" nails (depending on local municipal code regulations).
This model uses a full round head nail that is required by some building codes. The othe model uses a clipped head nail or offset round head nail to gain the extra capacity. That's the main difference. I really like Dewalt tools but my research has led me to believe both of these guns don't hold up in the long run. If you need a full round head cordless nailer, Hitachi has a beast of a gun. If you can use the clipped head/offset round head nails, the Paslode Impulse will serve you well. Just be sure to purchase the latest model. They have come a long way since the early black and orange models.
@@briancrisler6660, thanks for the reply. I'm a general contractor, so the frequency of need for a framing gun is marginal for either some pick-up framing or the odd side job, in which case I don't need it to stand up to the day-in-day-out rigors that a "full-time framer" would need. I already own all Dewalt Cordless 20V MAX & FlexVolt, so a DeWalt cordless framer makes sense. I likely will sell my DCN692 & get the DCN21 because it meets code in all municipalities and the nails are a lot easier to find...
The 30 degree nailer jams every 10 minutes if you don't use the flexvolt batteries
I want 1
It's great to not need a compressor or hose on this framing nailer.
TLDR, 7:01 is where the nailing starts.
Thanks, I'll fast forward
Thank good... this dude talks way too much.
How much is this machine in US dollars please tell me
$319
Tarek Ay $399
Question of the day: Are you ready to switch from pnenumatic to battery powered? Is 845 nails per charge enough for the work you would do?
I install fencing, so i'd like a coiled gun for the nail capacity. I've been looking at the dewalt siding pneumatic nailer, any experience with it?
I've only used an older Senco 3/8" stapler for siding. It worked pretty well with the siding adapter.
Not for this gun. Maybe the Hitachi but this flywheel technology is still crap. For a remodeler this gun is fine but not a production framer.
Answer of the day! Buy another 4ah or 6ah battery.
@@Antoniojr1993 I install fence as well and I’m not sold on the speed of this gun for nailing up pickets.
Thx nice
It's an awesome tool!
👽👽👽😍😍😍
nice
Thanks!
You added it all but not the nails you use
Grip-Rite 21degree 3" Galvanized Ring Shank Nails. I bought them from The Home Depot.
if that was an actual 8' wall it would sink it easy
Absolutely!
In cold conditions this framing nailer is useless.. we got rid of ours about 4 months of using it
Our paslode does way better
I don't recall running mine that much outside last winter. I should compare this one to the Milwaukee framing nailer this December.
These reviews never expose what’s wrong with the product.
This nailer worked well at the time of testing it with no fuel cartridges to power it. The only issue I have now is that it has to ramp up for firing a nail first. Once it ramps up, it fires 2-3 nailer quickly. The technology improved this year with Milwaukee not having to ramp up. I'm guessing DeWalt will introduce a new version soon.
Had a ton of problems with this gun. I wanted it to work so badly but kept jamming every time I tried to shoot it once it jammed the first time. Brought it back to the distributor company I got it from where they service the tools and the tool guy said it’s a reoccurring issue with those guns. They are in the shop more than in the field. I love the concept of this gun but sadly it’s a liability on the worksite. Sorry guys.
Mine has held up well, but I haven't brought it to a jobsite for repetitive use. It takes a little getting used to compared to the pnenumatic framers. Thanks for sharing.
I'm not impressed with the spin up. I want pull trigger plap plap plap.
It's a trade off. I've gone to job sites needing a generator, compress, and hose. It's amazing that you can eliminate all of them with this. Pretty soon, you'll see the tool companies will getting closer to what you're looking for.
@@MarkThomasBuilder I guess it isn't bad on bump mode. I wouldn't use the single mode.
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I need to try them out still.
@@MarkThomasBuilder maybe i was being harsh, I love Milwaukee brand. Had tried the Dewalt and found ramp up time a hindrance...The Hitachi and Milwaukee nailers use air/nitrogen pre charge which is less moving parts and lower maintenance.
Its a crap gun........really bad ...dewalt won't admit they messed up. Don't waste your money its useless . I threw mine away..
Mine has worked fine for me. I did notice the last time I used it that it took a couple practice nails to get it going properly. It has a 4 star review on Home Depot's website, so it looks like it's working well for most.
You sound like a butthurt Milwaukee fanboy
Way too long to fire
It may not be for everybody, but sure is handy to not need a compressor and hose.
you shut your mouth when your talking to me... nice review tho ha
Lol, it's a great nail gun!
This thing worthless if anyone had to nail a wall out with that thing it would take them 10 years
Imagine having to sink the nails in with the hammer only hahaha
@@Neutralmentality exactly. People forget good ol hammer nails was only way back in the day. Now you got these guys complaining about the convenience of a battery operated gun.
Looks pretty lame next to Milwaukee new framer. 😂
I'd like to do a side by side comparison. I did see quite a bit of excitement over the new nailer.
4:30 time is money, instead of using that stupid wrench (to pull out jammed nails) i just grinded the tip to make it look like a horseshoe instead of "ring" like it is.
Interesting, I'll have to look at that idea.
Pc shit To slow
Get to the freaking point
Haha, yeah I was rambling back then and thanks for your feedback. I think my more recent video are better... hopefully.🤣