Jay Slater new theory as cops move search to new location 🤔
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- Опубликовано: 27 июн 2024
- 19 year old Jay Slater from Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, UK has been missing since Monday morning of this week after leaving the NRG Festival on the island of Tenerife with two men. The two men allegedly have spoken to Spanish police before leaving Tenerife to return to the UK. Jay's phone last pinged in the Masca area, up in the mountains, about 30 miles north of where he was staying with his friends in Los Cristianos
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Now Spanish police focus search for missing Jay Slater on caves close to ravine in remote part of Tenerife
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I was in Malta in 2009 and got myself lost after I got off a bus (near Dingli Cliffs) and assumed I'd catch the bus from the bus stop opposite where I got off back. BUT by 2009, the buses only made one circuit, they didn't return the opposite way and I stood and watched the bus go by not realizing this was the only bus home. I had no map, no smartfones then, so walked via the cliffs to another town where I was told I could get a bus on a different circuit going back to Sliema. It was getting dark (my trip was in December) and it was down to helpful locals who were going to Sliema and realized I was in need of assistance. I must consider myself lucky to have got back safe.
I was in Malta late 90's was drunk and decided to walk from st Julians bay too silema, I wasn't aware at the time until a local stopped in her car and insisted I go with her , because I was been followed by three men, people of Malta are very nice people
@@anotherblonde did you get bummed too? 🤔😋
@@THE_Double_Tap_ Not on that occasion
@@anotherblonde shame we didn't glance at each other...may be next time lol ♥️
As a mother of one, I hope you find your son.God bless you Jay's mum, may your wish of finding him alive and well will come true.❤
Is his Passport in hotel?
@@irenedavo3768Jay’s mum Debbie has his passport, she has stated this publicly that she has it.
He’s been gone 12 (TWELVE!!!!!) days!!!!! He’s dead!!🤷🏻♂️
@@mackan-kf4tg people have been lost longer than that before and still survived. I agree its unlikely, but not impossible. Theres nothing wrong with keeping the faith at this point. 12 days isnt twelve years, or even twelve weeks.
Yes I have two sons, 21 and 22, they are careful, but no one is immune to making a mistake in circumstances that leads to a perfect storm and tragically people die. It doesn’t matter what age your children are they are still your most treasured possession and I can not bare to even think what this mother and father are going through right now. Poor kid. His first big adventure on his own, very very sad. I just hope they can get some closure and find his body.
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We all look back at our youth and everyone has that moment, the one that skated past...
I cannot even find words for what his mother must be going through - her "I can't bear it, I can't" is going to ring in the heads of many parents across the summer. I just hope the universe doesn't feel the need to dump more on this family because jesus, enough. Not knowing is unbearable.
Michelle, I am so obsessed with this case. Thank you for the comprehensive coverage. I have a favor to ask. I’m dying of colon cancer. They tell me I have a few months. When I was 15, there were a series of murders in my little city that rocked the state of Massachusetts and the country as a whole. It was 1979 when the body of Doreen Levesque’s body was found underneath the bleachers at Diman Regional Vocational Technical High School in Fall River, Massachusetts. This murder ushered in what came to be known as the “Satanic Panic.” The two murders that followed caused a panic the likes we had never seen before. There is a novel, Mortal Remains by Henry Scammell and a series on Epix called Fall River which chronicles the cases. One of the key players, Robin Murphy, was just released on parole. She’s admitted that she lied. She told the police what they wanted to hear. An innocent man may have just spent the last 40 plus years in prison because of her lies. Would you please cover this case. I’d love to see your insights and observations. Thank you.
I'm sorry to hear you're struggling with cancer, I hope you are as comfortable as you can be. I don't know the case you refer to, but I'll definitely put it on my list of cases to look into
@@MichelleAfterDark Thank you so much. I’m very comfortable. Your channel is amazing. Take care.
I have a daughter the same age as Jay and she is out in Malaga. I can’t sleep I am constantly worrying and she is checking in with me every few hrs to help with my anxiety if her being away at the moment. I can’t imagine what his parents are going through I am struggling to sleep can’t get it out of my head worrying my daughter could come to some harm. It drives me crazy people are so wrapped up in what his past looks like that is irrelevant he is missing and needs to be found I really feel for his parents ❤
❤ stay strong
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Big shout out to Paul Arnott out there selflessly helping in the search, he deserves a medal , just seen a post Guardia are now asking for any persons with mountaineering/ search and rescue experience to come over and help them
I got refused accommodation by the only hotel South of the Tiede Park as they were full, but also refused entrance to the bar or water tap. I had to sleep in a sleeping bag and it dropped below freezing. The next day I had to walk toward Los Christianos in temps above 100 f. I kept to the main road but tourists had dumped rubbish in the wells. I eventually got a lift, but was hospitalised for sun stroke and dehydration.
If True ? You went on Holiday with No Money yet had Money for an Hotel yet no Money to Pay for a Bottle of Water Does this Island have No Shops even when Brits have been going to this Islands since the late 70s 80s in Massive Numbers However if True Name Shame and Sue the bar who refused you Water if you can and Tell everyone so this Evil Island and it's Evil people go broke
Seems to be quite a hostile island , I’ve never been and never will .
Maybe I’m reading too much into it but there’s a few times Jay could’ve been helped by the last people who saw him .
Glad to hear you’re ok , does not bear thinking about if you had become a missing person 👍
@@Dinadino994 Don't be ridiculous, you're getting caught up in hype ... I was there for three weeks in March, did loads of different stuff, and had a lovely time.
@@Dinadino994 more likely locals who are cautious around the party visitors and likely fed up with all the social problems the party people bring to these islands. On the one hand, money to be made from the party tourism and on the other, the loutish behaviours, etc.. No elderly woman in her right mind is going to pick up a young man, who is likely wasted, let alone the language barrier, etc. It wouldn't happen in England, so why expect it to happen in Tenerife?
@@Dinadino994If it was the other way around, do you think Jay would help someone? I'm not so sure he would.
Hey! Just seen on the Mirror web that Jay's friend, Brad said he heard Jay slipping on rocks when he had his last phone conversation! Why the heck has he came forward now, instead of telling someone straight away, is beyond me!
Yeah I just read that. Does make you wonder where Brad and Jay's call fits into the time line of Jay and Lucy's call
@@rosita3528 Yeah, exactly! I also find it odd that Lucy had her face turned away from the camera on the news interview, when her face is all over social media! What's she hiding? 🤔
@@siouxcatwoman6752 Yeah good point also. Plus, going by Brad's interview, he said thar Jay said someone was calling him so he would call Brad back. Lucy said Jay called her, so who called Jay after he spoke to Brad I wonder
We don't know what they're embargoed from saying or for how long. He may have told the police but been under a gag order, just as the men who are supposed to have been in the house are silent. I do wonder if a lot of the reticence is actually not reticence but different country, different rules? Please don't all come for me, it's just a thought!
Awful for his family though. To not know....I know some people think his mother was acting, but "I can't bear it...." was. ...eh. Poor, poor lady.
Totally agree, it's more than likely it's been a case of mis-direction, either getting town names confused, or walking in the direction he thought the bus would go and taking a short cut, but forgetting traffic travelled on the other side of the road so was actually going the wrong direction. Poor lad.
Very interesting thanks for posting this
His phone pinged in masca at around 8.15, when he left the Airbnb... then when he phone lucy to say he's lost, half hour later at 8.50, he's almost a 3 hour walk away? But that 3 hour walk is 30 minutes by car?
He's in hiding somewhere!! Common sense tells you that you don't walk up a fucking mountain, that your trying to get off!!
Exactly
Been saying this 👏
Whys no-one saying about the fact he couldn't have walked up there. If someone gave him a lift, they would have said by now.
@@sineadhalliwell walked up where?
@@sineadhalliwell good point but no other sightings ?
A man calles ryan cooney went missing for month in same mountains on tenerife. He was returned hed been robbed and kidnapped but alive last year
Yes I saw that in the news
Yet if you dare to mention such things, you're a conspiracy theorist!
Oh 😮
He wasn't "kidnapped"
He was mugged and then went missing.
He was found FOUR DAYS later, not a month later.
There is no other information I can find out there about where he went, or where he was found, but there is also no claim that he was ever "kidnapped" or held by anyone against his will.
The most plausible scenario is that he was mugged, suffered a concussion, and simply wondered off.
@@mayhorse66 No, you're a conspiracy theorist when you lie about the circumstances of a case in order to invent nonsensical notions about this one.
Mr. Cooney was mugged, he then went missing. He was found FOUR DAYS later not a "month". He was not found in the same mountains, either. There is NO evidence that he was ever "kidnapped", there is no evidence that he was "returned" by anyone.
Inventing nonsense about other cases to justify your insanity about this one is horrid, stop it.
How unfortunate and ironic for Riley...he was walking amongst many people, and he still managed to end up in the water, and Jay Slater is in a very secluded place and might have the same outcome. Riley wasn't any safer on a crowed street, with CCTV cameras, any more than Jay was. Both met the same fate, under different set of circumstances.
Praying for Jay’s family the pain is unbearable 🙏🙏🙏
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Good morning @JennWatson 🌄🖐🏽❤️
Some of the degrading stuff around his disappearance is so disgusting! I can't even get my head around the Toxicity from people online, it's stupid and unnecessary, he's still a young kid, can't even imagine what his family are going through, instead of people helping this kid they rather sit there on their asses, elbow deep in a Family bag of Doritos been all keyboard warriors! It's sad to see such toxicity, especially the comments from adults who are parents! This is what is wrong with society! I hope he's found one way or the other!
Yes...your right..and social media shows up these really horrible humans...my son is 21 and us mums/dad's..really do worry..when they are out all all night..(i was like it myself)my son knows to txt me if he's crashing at a mates after the pub..even of its 3 /4 am..as I loose sleep else..and start worrying...poor Jay's mum &dad havn't been sleeping...its heart breaking.
It's just so sad to see such toxicity especially from parents! All because he and 7 others was involved in a horrible attack on a kid, I'm not condoning his part but they was another 7 others, yet he's been targeted for it now, it's kinda ironic that when the crime happened and the victim was attacked it didn't make a blip on the radar so the ones been vocal now are showing there nothing more than keyboard warriors and will happily trash and persecute someone who may not even be alive... I believe he takes some narcotics which people use as justification to his disappearance yet teens/young adults take narcotics worldwide it's the reality of growing up.
I feel so bad for his family imagine losing your child in a foreign country have absolutely no idea we're he is or what's happened to him all while your been scrutinized and trashed by online trolls it's absolutely disgusting its completely outrageous! It's sickened me to see just how nasty people can be and give absolutely no second thought to how there actions are effecting the innocence family who's done absolutely nothing wrong to be labeled social pariahs and the worst of the worst.@@philippamcqueen5430
@@DanStar87 yep..and they all all like the nasty kids in the school playground..they are just showing themselves up.
Thanks Michelle
Thanks Michelle. i do pay attention to this case, just at a loss for ideas on what may've happened.
Most likely the obvious...misadventure
It’s obvious what’s happened
@@howareyou857 given the background and circumstances, misadventure seems the least likely result. i mean, it's one hell of an accomplishment to die and leave zero trace and so hidden that teams of dogs, drones, helicopters and police find zero, nada, after 12 full days! wow! you couldn't do that if you tried!
@@howareyou857yes he's simply taken went thru mountains in q place he'd never even been before. I'm disgusted at those men not running jay back to where they picked him up from absolutely appalled.
@@duncansmith7562the mountains there I'm sure someone said are 22,000 feet drop in some parts which is dangerous 😢 I don't believe he was kidnapped either .
If the alleged sighting of Jay was with him watching the Euros on a large screen or tv, then why would'nt have got his mobile charged up to call folk to let them know he's ok? I think the sighting watching the footy is a false lead myself.
Yes the mayor should have said it .that was unprofessional.
DONT RELY ON IPHONE TECHNOLOLGY. Teach kids to also have maps, read directions & common sense precautions. Coming from Australia, where people go missing in teh bush all the time, it's rarely an experienced bushman that gets caught out - its those going for a 10 min walk.
I worked with Ozzie hard fellas. Pretty sure they were invincible.
But sadly I totally agree. And if you have an urban kid, teach them to stick to urban landmarks - if there's a bus stop, STAY THERE. We underestimate how our "normal" affects us, we assume everywhere is roughly the same. Especially when we're young, even if we know in theory, we don't internalise. Every landmark this kid had was urban, how is he going to understand other, especially when compromised. To leave his family unknowing is the ultimate cruelty, it's just...ooooof.
I think this is the reality.
He was inexperienced, underestimated his surroundings and overestimated his abilities.
It seems to me he made a bad decision to go with people he met without considering how he would get back. That's easy to do when you've spent several days partying at a festival and want it to continue. He presumably didn't take his phone charger with him. He didn't take his passport or other belongings with him. He didn't take water with him when he left the property he had visited.
It's just a series of mistakes culminating in a very unfortunate outcome.
Orfelia never said she saw him off the main road. she never said she saw him on a trail. she said she saw him walking purposefully along the main road.
Yes in the wrong direction, but he spiked himself on a cactus so we know he must have gone off the road before he phone died
@@MichelleAfterDark we don't know he "spiked himself on a cactus" at all!
we only know that Lucy said that when recounting what she claims was said in the final conversation! I mean. if you are going to believe every word Lucy says, then you'll believe the white powder she is selling you is not addictive and is of the purest quality! wake up and grasp reality!
What we know is that Orfelia said that Jay was walking along the road with purpose.
Jay's destination was unknown. Deal with facts.
Some maps apps do take you what they see as a quicker route, often that quicker way ends up being off track. We have ended up quite often in remoter areas.
@@Mia-ps7jd that is true. not saying he didn't end up on a track, just that the only evidence for that is Liar Lucy claiming Jay said he had cut himself on a cactus.
Exactly,so he could have been picked up in a car in the next few minutes,how would she know he wasn’t,and he also might have started walking ,got a better look at the distance and thought fuck that with no phone/water and turned around again and hitch hiked or got on a different bus ,and who trusts Ophelia anyway ,she could have been paid off or scared into saying that he was if he was involved with gangsters! I think he fell out with lucy on the phone and deffo wanted to just get away from her and not go back to his hotel
Thank you for attention to this young man. Prayers for his family 🙏🙏
Im new from lurking on crime channels 🙄insanity!!! Your Amazing ! great reporting ✌🏼🙏🏼🥰🥰 Blessings
I have a theory which I don't think has been talked about yet and that is that it may be possible that he found his way to a road and maybe thumbed a lift as a hitchhiker as he would have realised how far away from his residency he was. A vehicle may have stopped to pick him up and maybe he was threatened by the occupants who may have had bad intentions towards Jay. After getting into the vehicle, Jay may have been threatened with knives or a gun perhaps and then abducted to some other part of the island where goodness knows what they did to him. He may of course either have been thrown or fallen into the sea from a cliff face. Perhaps they should also be looking around the shoreline of the island as well.
I feel sorry for you.
Life must be hell thinking everyone is a criminal and every encounter is a threat.
Go outside and touch grass. Talk to people. Turn off social media for a while and get a grip on reality.
@@ct5625 - sounds like you're incredibly naive. I suggest you do the same. I do have a life outside social media thanks, but I'm not sure about you, otherwise why are you on here reading these comments?
The screenshot from Lucy’s phone - from when Jay shared the location - is actually in between the ‘Barranco Juan Lopez’ trail and the TF-436 … so he appears to veer of the road down towards the Barranco Juan Lopez trail via the ‘green area on maps’ - not the road
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I think he started to walk thinking he’d still catch the bus but may as well start walking, he headed off in the wrong direction. He walked north & then realised his mistake & thought he better hurry back to get to the bus at the original bus stop & took a short cut - then he went off the road and unfortunately it ended badly.
so he headed off with the idea of just getting to another bus stop, to catch the same bus but from a different place?
@@duncansmith7562 I’m just speculating but it would explain why he was seen on the road going north and then he vanished. Maybe panicked thinking he had to get back to the bus stop and went off road. Dehydrated, on a come down, hungover, exhausted. I think he’s on that mountain & not far from the road but would love to be wrong!
@@ShakerMaker1980 after 12 days of drones, dogs, helicopters and search teams, and a fully exposed human body is close to the road, undiscovered? doesn't seem likely.
you think his panicked mind told him the best way back to the bus stop was not to follow the road he had just covered, but to take a short cut?
if he had 10 o clock departure time for the bus in his mind, he should have known he had plenty of time to get back.
I'm not convinced Jay's destination was getting back to his hotel. whatever happened in that airbnb would tell us what Jay was up to, but i believe he was in serious trouble.
@ShakerMaker1980 maybe he just wanted a witness,? To say he was seen and intentionally walked off in the opposite direction.... I think he's no longer in the country, he could have left the island by sea????
@@user-yv4ih9gg5l you may well be right.
leaving the island by boat was the first thing that came to mind when I heard that the airbnb was in Masca.
It is Playa de Masca and nearby coves where drug smuggling and people smuggling happens, as the only way down to the beach is by a steep footpath.
Assuming the 2 strangers were helping Jay, it was a short walk from the airbnb to the path that leads to the cove. a boat arriving at a prearranged time would get him off the island. one hell of a coincidence that the 2 "strangers" drove all the way to the rave, met Jay outside after the rave, drove him all the way back to Masca, allowed him to leave at the crack of dawn and there is no connection to a plan to ship him off the island!
The media have been putting a dot (as a marker) in the middle of the park, and people may have been taking that as the location of the last ping.
He appears to have gone missing near to Mirador La Cruz de Hilda, from where the search is starting tomorrow.
As for sending your location using a messaging app, I would think that that would be generated using GPS, with perhaps the help of cellular data. It would've been so much better if Jay had used a messaging or map app to send his precise location, and just stayed at that spot!
David Larkin has been staying in one of those little buildings in the ravine near Mirador La Cruz de Hilda, and he was picked up by the police on the basis that he was in difficulty. I wonder, though, if they wanted to take a look at him, and rule him out as a suspect? Pure speculation on my part, of course.
You mean a lot of people in the "true crime" cult have smooth brains and can't think logically or critically?
Whodathunkit?
I hope hes ok, i really do !!
Good morning Michelle, Tilly,Noodle,Cassie I hope you have a lovely weekend.❤❤❤❤ I hope Jay is found but as the days go by it seems less likely.
It's a holiday for everyone courtesy of gofundme.
Totally agree I think this case is a hoax if this tic toucher finds him I swear it's pre planned
I think it’s just that simple Michelle spot on
It's all speculation, and when the only person to of allegedly spoke to him then starts a gofundme. Only the person that passed him while she was driving, I'm guessing she didn't trust him for some reason.
Amy comments Michelle on the comments from Spanish police regarding the timing of Lucy reporting Jay missing. Seems she did not report him missing until 2pm in the afternoon.
One fairly obvious reason that he might have gone in the wrong direction was he was on his first holiday abroad and may not have factored that the direction of traffic is different to the UK and so the bus stops going in a certain direction are on the opposite side of the road.
I think if when walking he saw a switchback road he would try to cut across to save more walking!
Yes, maybe
That's exactly what I think. Then realise you can't climb....lose direction (he's an urban kid and the road is almost invisible at some angles. He had no reference markers) and....so sad.
I don't think people realise the barrenness of the terrain. And bodies move, especially in a steep hill. I actually do hope he took shelter in a crevace, sat down and gone. At least it would be quick. But makes him harder to find. Just the ultimate nightmare for his poor family.
MWT is a PR Man nowadays , pushing a narrative and gaslighting is his game now.
Is everyone ignoring the fact that he’s related to the woman who drugged and hid her child under a bed for ages and pretended she’d gone missing to get money.. he could be doing something similar
Seems he's related to alot of odd happenings!!
Yes karen Matthews i read yesterday.
Untrue
Hogwash. It's an untrue rumor. 🙄
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How do guys like Thomas get away with it? He is interfering with a police investigation getting involved and intimidating witnesses..
Yes . Witness intimidation is a crime.
Also, what right has he to impose British rules? For all we know these people are under some type of restriction under Spanish law. Rather like we (the media) absolutely refused to accept the meaning of the official suspect status in Portugal. These places are not Britain and no, we can not do it better. Immensely frustrating and the absolute last thing his poor family need. The only use we may possibly - possibly, I have no idea - is S&R. And even the logistics of that may be a net loss, we simply do not need yet another beak sticking in a useless opinion and oh god I'm ranting again, aren't I? Soz.
Dismal situation for his family. And every parent who has a kid going roaming this summer. Just sad.
@@Mike75575 There is no criminal case, so "witness intimidation" is probably not an aspect of this.
These are all just private citizens involved in a case of a missing person, there is no evidence of any criminality taking place.
He could probably be cautioned for harassment, though.
@@ct5625 Yes i agree, there is no crime here.
when speculating, all scenarios must be entertained.
were the 2 strangers helping Jay, or out to get him? if out to get him, because Jay owed big money, why allow him to leave the Airbnb?
if they were helping Jay, Masca is the ideal place to walk the path to coves like Playa del Carrizal where boats come ashore for both drug and people smuggling.
Yes if nothing untoward happened to him, I think you’re right. It seems like the most logical explanation. He probably thought the public transport would be better in that closer town. Maybe he only had a split second look at the map before it conked out and at a glance it looked close. It’s only 4 miles as the crow flies. But obviously with the mountains it’s much longer. So from a teenagers immortal perspective I can imagine a young lad deciding to cut through them to get there quicker would be a good idea.
"he was going in the wrong direction on purpose"
there is no right or wrong direction, unless you are 100% sure the intended destination of the traveler, which we don't know.
We know where he was staying and we know he asked for a bus so we kinda do know where he intended to go
@@MichelleAfterDark no we don't.
we only know where he was staying.
we know that Orfelia says she thinks he was asking about a bus (but which one is not clear, Santiago or Buenavista) and she tried to indicate at what time the next bus to Santiago leaves (10.05), but whether she was answering the question Jay asked, or whether Jay understood her answer to the question he had in his head, is not clear at all.
There is no reason to assume that Jay intended to head toward Santiago. All the answers lie in what happened in the Airbnb, and that we don't know.
Only a fool would assume they know where Jay thought he was heading and for what reason. You assume way too much.
@@duncansmith7562Completely agree. Wild theories that hold no weight whatsoever.
Marks 3 days r up
Ha yeah what a pratt he’s always sticking his nose in isn’t he? I’ll bet the Spanish police are loving it now he’s there
He is hiding
Trouble is how do they end this , when he reappears has he had amnesia, how did he survive were has he been . I think they have planned all this shit for their own gain trouble is they know if their found out their in deep shit , hated worldwide. Jay may need to dissapear forever their plan has massively backfired in my opinion .
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Why would he go off with 2 strangers? (s#x, dr*gs) How did he get to the area he is lost in? ( car, bus) Why not wait for the bus? Why, if you're on a road, would you walk off into the mountains? This story smells to high heaven.
As in the Nicola Buckley case RIP sounds the most obvious explanation so far cheers👍
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Michelle look at the junction to Los carrales it's signposted he probably thought there was a town there. If you look at the time it takes 1hr 18 to reach the end of that road from Airbnb it puts him there when he called Lucy. Hopefully he got to the canoe place. Emailed journalists I know there's a massive search Saturday.
I think the Guardia Civil will find him within about a two hours walk of his last location. Jay had been partying for several days by that point. He wasn't compos mentis due to whatever substances and alcohol. He ended up staying a few hours with these two men and then left of his own accord. He wasn't seen running out of there,he wasn't asking for help, he wasn't showing signs of distress. He wanted to get the bus back to his accommodation. It looks like he got confused as to which way - unfamiliar town names that look the same, maybe getting which side of the road is going which way mixed up, etc. The local woman not picking him up is understandable. Unfortunately, Tenerife, etc., are 'party islands'. The locals have seen a lot over the last 3 decades of British youth, etc., coming over, getting wrecked and all sorts of madness going down. Plus, the main areas are crawling with people selling all kinds of drugs and all the problems that come with the gangs that operate that stuff. No elderly woman is going to pick up a young man who looks a bit wasted, even during the daytime, who is walking in the wrong direction. He was on a main road at that point and likely looked like he knew where he was going, even if in the wrong direction. I feel very sorry for his mum who looks like she's in deep shock, whose eyes look swollen from repeated crying and also for his dad and brother, who are also struggling with what's happened, etc
What if he's the victim of a serial killer?
a few young men have dissapeard on the island i saw 5 over the years that have in a news article yesterday. serial killer did cross my mind. but i just think he is dead on the mountain/land somewhere unfortunatly.
victim of serial stupidity
The odds of it are unlikely but it is possible he could have become the victim of some kind of predator after the cafe lady passed him
What if he was abducted by Big Foot!?
Aliens. It's always aliens.
(I feel bad even joking but it's not mean-spirited. I think a lot of us are doing that British dark humour thing)
I know his phone pinged in that one place but what if he realised he was going to wrong way and made his way back the other way and got a lift the opposite direction
the CCTV camera is not from the area, the Mayor has restated that the CCTV is not from that area.
Is that the mayor who's related to the woman from the air b n b ?
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Apparently there's a photo sent to Lucy Law of his last location, and I haven't seen that photo yet. So where is this photo?
why should you see that photo? Are you a detective on the case?
@@mereteaasland6663 Yes we should see the photo, this isn't a criminal case, this is a 'find someone' case.
@@mereteaasland6663 what a stupid comment to a simple and justifiable question
I'm guessing the cops won't want that photo released. Even though it's a missing persons case they would be irresponsible not to protect the integrity of their investigation at this stage
@@mereteaasland6663 the photo has been seen in other videos. And don’t be crass, 6663, what a pathetic question. 💩
"Jay has not been seen by anyone since June 17"
My guess is that Jay has been seen since June 17, possibly by several people, but we don't know who or in what circumstances. He may well have left the island
I very much doubt he's left the island
@@MichelleAfterDark why?
He could have left the island by boat?
Aaaand here come the "traffickers" fantasists.
Which brand of delusion are you addicted to?
Is everyone "abducted" for the s*x industry or organ harvesting in your smooth brain?
He was a fit healthy young man, highly likely he travelled further an faster than ppl think. Even the woman who saw him said he was moving at a good pace.
Yeah that’s often the case. People get out of a search area and then it takes an awful long time to find them
I wonder when they will bring in the cadaver dogs😢
They already have if you look at the Guardian Civil information.
(Guardia) spell check!!!
Great video, Michelle!!! That makes a lot of sense. Also, the comment that you made about Riley strain I never thought about that great job.
IMO, Jay left the information he wanted his family to know with Lucy so they could have peace. He was lost, dyhrated, stuck by a cactus, and had no phone battery.
It would be helpful to know why the 2 guys he went north with didn't give him a ride back in the morning. Perhaps they were asleep or not present in the apartment at that time..idk
There's a whole lot we don't know about.
I think he went further up and in a ravine sadly. disorientated, dehydrated, could have been hallucination from lack of water. Sadly no mystery just a young man who has got confused and lost. bless him. x most search dogs will find either dead or alive.
Is it possible he walked in that direction in hope of finding a taxi perhaps, rather than waiting for a bus?
Jay was on video call or Snapchat to his friend saying look where I am, basically wow look at this it’s 1 hour car but 11 hour walk he definitely knew how far he was away
I think simply jay has went into the mountains n got lost ,I don't think he was kidnapped or anything at all like that . Main thing is he needs to be found to give his family some closure. He should have walked on the road especially in a foreign country he didn't know. He shouldn't have gone anywhere with those two British men n he wouldn't have been missing in the first place if U go on holiday with friends stay with Ur friends not away with randoms you don't even know. That put jay in danger straight away n fact those men drove him to the mountains then left him to walk back to christiano.nasty men them putting a wee boy of 19 in that position in the first place . 😢 I really feel jays on the mountain somewhere. N those Threat things said to jays mum on Snapchat was just nasty people being evil . If jays alive it'll be a miracle .
I think it’s a good possible theory. I do wish for a miracle for his mother/family, but at least I hope they find him soon in any case.
The thing that is horrific is the way he would have died . 😔 Truly awful 😖
Jay has passed away , im a empath but i also get vistions hence i can tell you this, i feel so bad for his parents, i also the injury to his leg and it was not good , i hope they find him soon so the family will get some relief
You get "vistions"?
Could any of them be from an English teacher?
Better yet, a psychotherapist.
@@ct5625 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 your soooo funny 😁
buses stop on a different side compared to England and if u're not careful you might think the side u're standing goes in the British direction
No he thought he was in England and there r the other side of the road different directions to England
Yep there's that too
There's the question, of course, of why Jay decided to head uphill from the bus stop.
Perhaps Ofelia pointed to the stop on the same side of the road as the Airbnb/restaurant, and he was thinking in terms of the side of the road that vehicles drive on in the UK.
Yeah, maybe, it makes sense
Yes, but he wouldn't need to go far to realise there wasn't one, and normal urban person reaction would be to return to a known bus stop, if intending to wait for a bus. Regardless of which direction it is going, a bus would have a driver to keep him right.
@@pingupenguin2474What do you mean, sorry? There's bus stops along the road, but he may have decided to walk part of the journey instead of waiting at the Airbnb. Maybe the two guys were going to try and catch some sleep before their scheduled flight on the Monday (although they ended up flying on Tues).
Still, we don't know why he left the road, other than to take a short cut.
young people are usually hungry after a night out, so knowing he had two hours to wait for the bus, he went to look for a place to have breakfast.
The cafe was under the bnb, the lady who saw him at the shop owned both :)
If he was taking any sort of drugs the last thing he would be is hungry.
@@nobody-nz3vv Yes, but was it open so early in the morning?
@@laurencooper3169 There was a photo of him standing in front of the house with a cigarette in his hand, so I think he just got up.
its ironic you keep showing rivers as there are none in tenerife - not a single one - no streams or running water
still hoping
Why didnt the woman who seen him not get out and shout him for a lift .did he drop the phone on purpose or has he lost it by mistake just dosnt make sense or has he planted it there .have they checked ocean surley his body would of surfaced by now .very strange .
If you are a lone woman, its not wise to give anyone a lift you don't know, especially males. 😮
Fucking hell, Joey Pasq has joined the search
Beach cam Tenerife verbal footage?
Anyone can find it via a web search.
Hey Michelle I switched jobs so I’m still watching just at different times.
How long between speaking to the woman and making the phone call. He was already off the road in that short time if he cut his leg.
Good afternoon beautiful ❤
Jay could of gone towards the tow path to the sea and fallen so he could be in that area or somewhere round there. He could of gone into a cave out of view, he could of fell over into the sea,, it was stated he walked in the opposit direction walking up hill. I think 2 weeks on he may never been found and it's very sad, young man had his whole life ahead of him,,
Videos like this are not helping anyone, you practically said nothing of any worth and mumbled on from the 4th minute. Give it a rest.
I definitely agree
Opinions are like arseholes.
And you are one.
If you want conspiracy theory bs there are dozens of other channels to waste your time on, sweetie.
Barranco Juan Lopez trail imho.
Possible
Lucys snapchat photo is within a few yards of that trail.. Some seasoned hikers have had extreme dufficulty in that valley . Thirst and loosing their way. Ps I like your theory here too.
Mark only needs 3 days 😂
Just ask the dogs!!!!!!
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Not that I know anything about anything, but didn't they teach us when we were little that for survival if you open up a cactus there's water in it ? I wonder if that's something they still teach in school or not
What about the message that Jay,s mother got about never seeing her son again because he owed money??
Every case has evil trolls
Went to playa san juan today to the spice shop, wallked out on pier to see if my friend Freddie van der linden was there. He was not. Saw a lad that could easily be mistaken for Jay. White top. Could buy new kit
How can there be a new area to search surely they have searched everywhere by now.
Poor jay 😢
Happy day🦴🦴🦴🌻🌻
Think it was personal sadly what did he do to make it personal out there
That sounds possible.
... but Jay knew Los Cristianos is on the coast, whereas that other place isn't.
Yes but he would be able to see the sea once he got to the top of the ravine
Cacti?
I believe he never even left the road I think he got a lift in a car 🚗 but then maybe he was being followed