To all of you who are critical of this demonstration, don't worry about it. You just haven't been around enough horses and/or started enough colts to understand what he is doing and why he is doing it. As the saying goes, "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear." Think about it. Once you have devoted 40 yrs of your life to horses and started a couple of thousand colts, then you will "get it." Until then, just keep an open mind and try to learn from the true masters of their craft. Personally, I am blown away by how well his black colt is doing. Only his second ride! Are you kidding me? That is absolutely magical. Well Done!
I've been around PLENTY of horses. I've been around Ray Hunt. And Ray could be plenty hard on a horse as well. I was "all in" at one time. The more horses I worked with, the more I realized a lot of this crap is completely unnecessary. I mean "unnecessary" for the horse, necessary to keep the crowds coming back. The "teacher" appeared for me years ago. It's called "the horse". For some reason, if a person doesn't buy in to what Brannaman -- and others -- are selling then those people apparently don't know a thing. That couldn't be further from the truth. It's called "waking up" from the cult. All I see now are people who are overly aggressive with horses. There is a reason for that. To be a hero, one needs a villain. This morphed into something I don't believe it was ever meant to be and it's surely different from the early days in the 70's and 80's. For those that have commented on the horse being this or a that before coming into the area, the point is, the horse lives in the moment, so jerking him around for something that happened in previous minutes or hours or days is NOT about timing, it's called setting the horse up and scaring the shit out of him.
@@TerriReuserHVR90 What I hear, is that you failed and because you couldn’t do it you are bashing others who are trying. Because you couldn’t find the feel their way you decided that they are bad and you don’t have to do it this way. No you don’t have to do it their way, but I bet you your horse can’t do half of what his can do. Sorry but this is coming from someone who thought at one point that, “ this is stupid, I can do it this way better,” well guess what. You can’t without having another thing that needs tweaking. Since I’ve started I’ve worked with many horses like this. Yes, maybe lighter than they do but it works so much better and sticks with them so much longer. Just because you failed to realize the timing of it doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. Buck also will tell you he has learned and adapted over the years to better ways. Something many trainers won’t admit. A true horseman is ALWAYS learning and soaking in knowledge. Also, a horse can remember way more than you give them credit. Watch them in the pasture some more because you haven’t learn from the horse as much as you thought.
@@TerriReuserHVR90the opposite extreme of being in the cult is discarding everything of value in a teacher over a few points of difference that you gained through your own journey. I actually agree with some of these techniques being unnecessarily rough but would also add that this was 30 years ago and we've all gotten better including Buck. Both Buck and Ray by their own admissions were paid to fight horses in the early days so maybe look at it like comparing their beginnings to early evolution to how they were/are when older. I still go to see Buck when I can and he's smoother today than is shown here. Though the core of the method is the same.
So incredible to watch this man change the horse and if you listen to how he describes the horse and what is fair to the horse, you get his compassion for these animals. I can listen to him talk about horsemanship all day long. Thank you Reata for sharing your dad's passion for helping humans to understand these wonderful creatures
Buck is my hero. Through his strength, life and sensitivity, I have found the true meaning of being a horseman. Working at becoming a good horseman has led me away from a very dark place. This man is the real deal.
Mine too, same here. I am watching 7 Clinics with my kids. I worked mine 6 years with CA method, and I am sure that saved my mare from the kill pen. She was quite a case when she was given to me. 1 year with Buck's basic groundwork, and she is way softer now, and everyone wants to ride her.
So many negative comments from people who never saw the way this horse was behaving with it's rider and the reason Buck was asked to help in the first place. Do your research folks. Lots of professional we'll regarded Experienced Horseman defer to Buck and regard him as the "Whisperer" he is! Buck is the Master. As is George and Rodney.
Thank you for sharing this footage with us. This man is exceptional with a horse, truly a pleasure to watch. Its unfortunate that jett888 is unable to take the time to appreciate this entire video, it would offer them the opportunity to become aware of a change in a horse and how when the human is able encourage a series of changes they can help the horse to believe in them. My favorite aspect is watching him operate the black horse with such precision, keeping the colt focused throughout the entire presentation. Pretty cool stuff!
Here's the deal.If you want anyone figuring out your horse and helping it, it's this man. He's a genius. Right from the beginning Buck would know what that horse was all about and how to handle him by giving the horse it's confidence back. It's called trust.
I actually saw the documentary about him, he seems very compassionate and empathic with the horses, Judging from that film. Animal cruelty(I. E. how they make horses bow their heads real tight in shows and stuff for it to look nice, and how that hurts the animal, or training by breaking the horse), was brought up, but the message was that he had an affectionate way of communicating with the horses, whereas some people dont.
Well, 'M'. I'm glad you feel confidence in the legitimacy of this fellows approach. I on the other hand have doubt's and questions. More than once l have seen horses made to look more difficult than they were. In human terms and allegations it would be called 'a frameup'. Giving people a show and a vehicle to show someone's 'expertise'. A true horse person would never stoop to such trickery and illusion. If Tom Dorrance was the horse's lawyer, more than a few of his protégées are working for the prosecution.
This is the start to finish training in real time I needed to see. The 7 Cinics videos are great, but you don't see him working with the same horse more than a few minutes at a time (luckily, that is enough time to see a great change toward what he is trying to get the horse to realize and leave the horse happier and softer than when he started.)
Quarter horses are so adorable with how they are between being thin and chubby at the same time. when I go to the fair I always have to visit them they are gorgeous and very high spirited
Sometimes the best part of these videos is the comments from the wannabes and never-has-beens. Meanwhile Buck is the one going down the road making a living at his clinics while all these “experts” in the comments section, well, aren’t. Legends in their own minds.
People who say that horse walked into the pen confident need to look closer at his body language. He was wary and on his guard, ready to get out if needed. Definitely not comfortable and confident.
Being "on guard" certainly doesn't make the horse a "bronc". He was indeed confident with the guy leading him. Someone did alright by the horse, since in walked into the arena and the pen. One assumes he must have been trailered. Amazes me that people watch this stuff and because it's Brannaman (or change the name to any one of these guys) doing this to a horse he's some sort of hero. Ya, ya, ya no one could know as much as Brannaman. Couldn't possible criticize a "hero". . I've watched this all evolve since the mid-70's. It's all for show to keep the crowds coming back. Hero vs. villain. Of course no one could know more. I wonder how people got along before all of this. The philosophy started out as something wonderful and it's morphed into something it was never intended to be. Believe me, I was around Ray Hunt and I was "all in" at one time too. I just didn't see the need for all this heavy handed business -- and Ray could be hard on a horse. The more horses I've worked with, the more I realized all this stuff is in most cases completely unnecessary. They sure don't do this in the riding schools around the world -- I wonder why that is. No one wants to go to a clinic to see a quiet chestnut horse.
Lots of reasons, I will mention a few. To give the colt he is riding a job to do to help him understand about being ridden. Because its easier for the human to get it done from another horse. The horse he is working with can get confidence from the other horse. Its safer horseback. He can get above the horse so he sees him more in the riding position. Listen to what Buck says he gives lots of other reasons. :)
That horse walked into that pen calm, respectful and confident. There was no need to go after him in such a belligerent manner. Trying to make the horse look worse so the clinician can look better. Heros need villains.
Been around horses all my Life, farrier, working with Young stock, been fortunate to have riden with some good horsemen and I have to say after watching the Buck Brannaman Movie and several other films of his "I would not want this man messing with my horses".
sqawcreekkid Awesome response! I couldn't agree more! It hasn't been about horses and riding for a VERY long time. Personally, I can't stand horses being beaten up in the name of training and "kindness". This was never how this philosophy was supposed to have evolved. I too "worshipped" at one time. In fact, there are some really good comments here that sound like they've got experience and aren't worshipping some "hero".
Odd that Buck chose to use a very green horse to work the chestnut with. The green horse spooked as soon as he saw the chestnut. sorry, Buck. Use your well-trained horses to work the badly trained ones with.
"Terrified of the human"? Really?? He walked in the pen with confidence and didn't look terrified until the guy on the black horse took a hold of him. How is that helping this horse in any way?? "His prognosis is grim"? You're kicking him in the guts and yanking him until his eyes are bugging out and it's the horse's problem? You do all that crap to make the horse look like and idiot is my guess. Why would he want to get close; every time he did he got a kick in the guts! I'm shocked, actually. This horse was no bronc. Looks to me like you don't like horses. You are smug. My only hope is that people start seeing this for what it is; I've watched this evolve for years.
To all of you who are critical of this demonstration, don't worry about it. You just haven't been around enough horses and/or started enough colts to understand what he is doing and why he is doing it. As the saying goes, "When the student is ready, the teacher will appear." Think about it. Once you have devoted 40 yrs of your life to horses and started a couple of thousand colts, then you will "get it." Until then, just keep an open mind and try to learn from the true masters of their craft.
Personally, I am blown away by how well his black colt is doing. Only his second ride! Are you kidding me? That is absolutely magical. Well Done!
I've been around PLENTY of horses. I've been around Ray Hunt. And Ray could be plenty hard on a horse as well. I was "all in" at one time. The more horses I worked with, the more I realized a lot of this crap is completely unnecessary. I mean "unnecessary" for the horse, necessary to keep the crowds coming back. The "teacher" appeared for me years ago. It's called "the horse". For some reason, if a person doesn't buy in to what Brannaman -- and others -- are selling then those people apparently don't know a thing. That couldn't be further from the truth. It's called "waking up" from the cult. All I see now are people who are overly aggressive with horses. There is a reason for that. To be a hero, one needs a villain. This morphed into something I don't believe it was ever meant to be and it's surely different from the early days in the 70's and 80's. For those that have commented on the horse being this or a that before coming into the area, the point is, the horse lives in the moment, so jerking him around for something that happened in previous minutes or hours or days is NOT about timing, it's called setting the horse up and scaring the shit out of him.
@@TerriReuserHVR90 What I hear, is that you failed and because you couldn’t do it you are bashing others who are trying. Because you couldn’t find the feel their way you decided that they are bad and you don’t have to do it this way. No you don’t have to do it their way, but I bet you your horse can’t do half of what his can do. Sorry but this is coming from someone who thought at one point that, “ this is stupid, I can do it this way better,” well guess what. You can’t without having another thing that needs tweaking. Since I’ve started I’ve worked with many horses like this. Yes, maybe lighter than they do but it works so much better and sticks with them so much longer. Just because you failed to realize the timing of it doesn’t mean it doesn’t work. Buck also will tell you he has learned and adapted over the years to better ways. Something many trainers won’t admit. A true horseman is ALWAYS learning and soaking in knowledge. Also, a horse can remember way more than you give them credit. Watch them in the pasture some more because you haven’t learn from the horse as much as you thought.
@@TerriReuserHVR90the opposite extreme of being in the cult is discarding everything of value in a teacher over a few points of difference that you gained through your own journey.
I actually agree with some of these techniques being unnecessarily rough but would also add that this was 30 years ago and we've all gotten better including Buck. Both Buck and Ray by their own admissions were paid to fight horses in the early days so maybe look at it like comparing their beginnings to early evolution to how they were/are when older. I still go to see Buck when I can and he's smoother today than is shown here. Though the core of the method is the same.
So incredible to watch this man change the horse and if you listen to how he describes the horse and what is fair to the horse, you get his compassion for these animals. I can listen to him talk about horsemanship all day long. Thank you Reata for sharing your dad's passion for helping humans to understand these wonderful creatures
Buck is my hero. Through his strength, life and sensitivity, I have found the true meaning of being a horseman. Working at becoming a good horseman has led me away from a very dark place. This man is the real deal.
Mine too, same here. I am watching 7 Clinics with my kids. I worked mine 6 years with CA method, and I am sure that saved my mare from the kill pen. She was quite a case when she was given to me. 1 year with Buck's basic groundwork, and she is way softer now, and everyone wants to ride her.
So many negative comments from people who never saw the way this horse was behaving with it's rider and the reason Buck was asked to help in the first place.
Do your research folks. Lots of professional we'll regarded Experienced Horseman defer to Buck and regard him as the "Whisperer" he is! Buck is the Master. As is George and Rodney.
I love the comments , internet horse trainers. Personally I'm going with the guy who is actually doing this stuff.
Thank you for sharing this footage with us. This man is exceptional with a horse, truly a pleasure to watch.
Its unfortunate that jett888 is unable to take the time to appreciate this entire video, it would offer them the opportunity to become aware of a change in a horse and how when the human is able encourage a series of changes they can help the horse to believe in them.
My favorite aspect is watching him operate the black horse with such precision, keeping the colt focused throughout the entire presentation.
Pretty cool stuff!
Here's the deal.If you want anyone figuring out your horse and helping it, it's this man. He's a genius. Right from the beginning Buck would know what that horse was all about and how to handle him by giving the horse it's confidence back. It's called trust.
***** Agreed.
I actually saw the documentary about him, he seems very compassionate and empathic with the horses, Judging from that film. Animal cruelty(I. E. how they make horses bow their heads real tight in shows and stuff for it to look nice, and how that hurts the animal, or training by breaking the horse), was brought up, but the message was that he had an affectionate way of communicating with the horses, whereas some people dont.
Well, 'M'. I'm glad you feel confidence in the legitimacy of this fellows approach. I on the other hand have doubt's and questions. More than once l have seen horses made to look more difficult than they were. In human terms and allegations it would be called 'a frameup'. Giving people a show and a vehicle to show someone's 'expertise'. A true horse person would never stoop to such trickery and illusion. If Tom Dorrance was the horse's lawyer, more than a few of his protégées are working for the prosecution.
This is the start to finish training in real time I needed to see. The 7 Cinics videos are great, but you don't see him working with the same horse more than a few minutes at a time (luckily, that is enough time to see a great change toward what he is trying to get the horse to realize and leave the horse happier and softer than when he started.)
Thanks for posting these. They piqued my interest enough to where I purchased them from Eclectic Horseman. Great discs; definitely worth the money.
Quarter horses are so adorable with how they are between being thin and chubby at the same time. when I go to the fair I always have to visit them they are gorgeous and very high spirited
I've watched 3 Masters so many dang times. It never stops being valuable.
This channel is called Reata1. Wonder if it's THAT Reata?
I dont understand horses but his methods seem respectful and humane to the animal
That black colt is going to be one fine polo pony... no wonder Buck's horses did so well at Palm Springs!
Sometimes the best part of these videos is the comments from the wannabes and never-has-beens. Meanwhile Buck is the one going down the road making a living at his clinics while all these “experts” in the comments section, well, aren’t. Legends in their own minds.
Thank you for posting this.
thank you for sharing!
People who say that horse walked into the pen confident need to look closer at his body language. He was wary and on his guard, ready to get out if needed. Definitely not comfortable and confident.
Being "on guard" certainly doesn't make the horse a "bronc". He was indeed confident with the guy leading him. Someone did alright by the horse, since in walked into the arena and the pen. One assumes he must have been trailered. Amazes me that people watch this stuff and because it's Brannaman (or change the name to any one of these guys) doing this to a horse he's some sort of hero. Ya, ya, ya no one could know as much as Brannaman. Couldn't possible criticize a "hero". . I've watched this all evolve since the mid-70's. It's all for show to keep the crowds coming back. Hero vs. villain. Of course no one could know more. I wonder how people got along before all of this. The philosophy started out as something wonderful and it's morphed into something it was never intended to be. Believe me, I was around Ray Hunt and I was "all in" at one time too. I just didn't see the need for all this heavy handed business -- and Ray could be hard on a horse. The more horses I've worked with, the more I realized all this stuff is in most cases completely unnecessary. They sure don't do this in the riding schools around the world -- I wonder why that is. No one wants to go to a clinic to see a quiet chestnut horse.
@@TerriReuserHVR90 would love to see your Colt starting videos! Where are they? I looked on your channel and didn’t see any🤷♂️
Seems like a really rough version of Buck. He's usually so subtle!
It's from almost 30 years ago. He'd tell you himself how much better he is now.
Still pretty dang good back then though.
Buck is actually a Centaur disguised as a human if you look closely enough, you will agree.
Why was he doing this on while on another horse? Never seen that done before
Lots of reasons, I will mention a few.
To give the colt he is riding a job to do to help him understand about being ridden. Because its easier for the human to get it done from another horse. The horse he is working with can get confidence from the other horse. Its safer horseback. He can get above the horse so he sees him more in the riding position. Listen to what Buck says he gives lots of other reasons. :)
I don't understand why that chestnut is so fearful- so sad, obviously someone did something wrong to him- so sad.
I don't agree with constantly banging your legs on the horse's side. That's how u desensitize the horse to your leg
Jessica W he is riding a colt that he just started.
That horse walked into that pen calm, respectful and confident. There was no need to go after him in such a belligerent manner. Trying to make the horse look worse so the clinician can look better. Heros need villains.
Been around horses all my Life, farrier, working with Young stock, been fortunate to have riden with some good horsemen and I have to say after watching the Buck Brannaman Movie and several other films of his "I would not want this man messing with my horses".
+mark warnberg why?
sqawcreekkid Awesome response! I couldn't agree more! It hasn't been about horses and riding for a VERY long time. Personally, I can't stand horses being beaten up in the name of training and "kindness". This was never how this philosophy was supposed to have evolved. I too "worshipped" at one time. In fact, there are some really good comments here that sound like they've got experience and aren't worshipping some "hero".
Mark Warnberg Great comment. I couldn't agree more!
And you are?
@@robgriz72 Who are you asking?
Still, a little too much muscling the horse for me
Odd that Buck chose to use a very green horse to work the chestnut with. The green horse spooked as soon as he saw the chestnut. sorry, Buck. Use your well-trained horses to work the badly trained ones with.
Ew
"Terrified of the human"? Really?? He walked in the pen with confidence and didn't look terrified until the guy on the black horse took a hold of him. How is that helping this horse in any way?? "His prognosis is grim"? You're kicking him in the guts and yanking him until his eyes are bugging out and it's the horse's problem? You do all that crap to make the horse look like and idiot is my guess. Why would he want to get close; every time he did he got a kick in the guts! I'm shocked, actually. This horse was no bronc. Looks to me like you don't like horses. You are smug. My only hope is that people start seeing this for what it is; I've watched this evolve for years.
Thank you for posting this.