I boarded HMNLS Bruinvis off Barry in southeast Wales about 20 years ago. She was bound for Cardiff. Thankfully it was flat calm. She stopped and we approached very slowly at 90 degrees (the only time I've ever done so). I stepped off the bow of the pilot cutter more or less straight onto the top of the casing. Being met by both the OOW and a geezer dressed in full dive gear was an ominous sign. The climb down into the casing trunk and walk through to the ops room wearing a pilot coat (with an integral lifejacket) was very tight. By the time I got to the conning tower, I was bollocksed. I quickly became aware that submariners have a completely different sense of personal space. Normal conversation is held with noses a mere six inches apart.
Delivering a letter to the USS Nautilus with a big swell with a Whale Boat, soon had my on top of the Sub hit and dry with a very hard dismount. Year later it became one of my favorite sea stories to tell around the galley table as a Merchant Marine Captain.. It would start out, "Did I tell you guys about the time I served on a Submarine for a short while?"
Yeah I rode boats for 6+ years. Rarely had a pilot transfer at sea this easy. I was maneuvering watch Helmsman done in the control room driving the boat. Pilot transfer in open water had everyone’s attention. I always was ready to slam the rudder toward whatever side the transfer was taking place and the engine room was on as well. If, thank god it never happened in my time. We lost a pilot into the water we were ready to recover him asap.
Years ago I was in hospital and I had to take my lap top in due to the extortionate cost of watching TV there. The other patients wondered why I was just cracked up laughing despite it putting me in considerable pain so I showed them what I was watching on RUclips. It was of a US navy submarine which was out at sea and a postal boat was dropping off the mail. Unfortunately when the boat was ready to leave it got caught on the plate on the rear of the sub and couldn't get off. First you notice the smoke from the boat as it's excelerating like mad then the sailors jumping in the sea when the sea water enters the exhaust and starts flooding the vessel. It's a brilliant piece of film footage with audio and fortunately all the seamen were rescued. It should be used as a training video on how not to deliver mail to a US Sub !!!!
@@richardallison8745 oh, that's awful I feel bad now as I.m sure they said that said everyone on the postal boat got off safely. Puts a different perspective on the whole incident .
@@janetschwartz1790 I agree and I think I seen something in print that the OD and Captain were cleared on the investigation but I seen lots of problems with orders and the ordering of improper bells that made it worse. I can't imagine the engineer that was below struggling with his engine while his boat was slipping under the water.
Unfortunately someone forgot to tell the Pilot that the submarine was about to turn round and head back out to sea for a secret 3 month undersea voyage with no communication allowed with the outside world.
We navigated the treacherous Sound on our way to tha baltic without a pilot becoz our master Was a fisherman on those waters..The company saved quite a bundle and sent us a box of fresh flounder in gratitude.
What a wally that pilot was, made hard work of that, let go of the rope at the critical moment. Only that he was being pulled aboard by the crew otherwise he'd have been in the drink. Complete gumby.
No Submarine carries a Port Pilot as a matter of routine. A pilot is frequently required to safely negotiate a surface transit when entering and leaving port. Even in familiar ports, a pilot may be required. When I served on Diesel Electric Submarines out of New London, CT, we were not required to use a Pilot. Later when I was on Nuclear SSN's out of that same port we were REQUIRED to embark a pilot for entering amd leaving. On the boats I served on, we did not utilize the pilot however he was embarked. Also, we used the Pilot to act as a communication link between us and the tugboats that were assisting us. The Russians and indeed every nation do the same thing when entering ports, and certainly FOREIGN ports.... try talking to the Spanish Tugmaster from your Russian or US Submarine... the pilot will solve that.... or maybe Alexa??? lol
Never saw a Pilot during my many trips in and out of New London. Never heard of the Nuke boats either using them back in early 70's. I think we had skippers who knew their boats, the river and how to maneuver them on the Thames. DBF, USS Clamagore, SS 343
@@53bigmikejones You apparently did not read my post. Diesel Boats were not required to embark a Pilot nor were they required to have two tugboats escort them when entering or leaving port. Nothing to do with ship-handling skill or knowledge of the river - all about ,maneuverability of s single screw boat vs a twin screw boat. Clamagore could twist and turn in parts of the channel... a single screw boat can not. COMSUBFLOT TWO mandated the tug/pilot requirements in the 1960s and 1970s. In the eraly to mid 1970s there were fr=ew fully operational diesel boats on the River - the Nukes got all thye Sea Time (unfortunately.) The passage of time may have convinced you that the Diesel Boats were somehow better crewed - having served 24 years on both I can assure you not everyone shares that perspective. DBF - unless a shooting war breaks out!
@@53bigmikejones "A pilot is required for all submarine arrivals and departures at the SUBASE. Arriving submarines will normally board pilots north of buoys 5 and 6. According to DMAHTC (1995), boarding south of the buoys can be imprudent due to cross channel current set. Pilots will normally remain on departing submarines until the vessels are south of the highway bridges." Been this way for over fifty years.
Why is there not a better, modern system for boarding a pilot. Every vid of a pilot embarking and disembarking is the same risky, dangerous process. With all of mankind's technology, this is the process we have; the same as 3000 years ago. Dang!
Would this pilot have special clearance? I’m guessing everything on the sub would be classified to military personnel only, so does he pilot from the sail position and not go inside the sub?
On a sub they are probably kept above decks anyways and an uneducated guess but on a surface military vessel, the navigation bridge is not the operational heart of the vessel. But I would be surprised if domestic pilots didn't have some degree of background check done, either overtly or covertly.
On my boat Sonar had its own operating compartment, Fire Control covers their screens. You don’t get into the important engineering spaces. Not much more to be concerned with other than that. Most likely they stand at the navigation station in control or in the tower.
I think of knowledge of anti sub devices placed near critical military structure ! Nets or even minefields , constantly changing sandbars in estuaries ?
@@cck0728 probably output from some engine cooling circuit or bilge water pumps, a simple way to dispose of onboard water or excess thermal energy, I have no specific knowledge of this vessel. There is no need to keep everything contained in a closed circuit, even on a submarine, you can utilize the medium around it above and under water depending on the current task and position.
I've done this a few times and it's scary. Looking down there's no real space between the sub and tender and if you end up slipping down you'll be crushed!
Captai : pilot on the con.. Pilot : tank you captain, Ok set on course 0 3 0, Ahead standard Helmsman: 0 3 0, Ahead standard eyes sir. Pilot : periscope depth Helmsman: periscope depth eyes sir, dive dive dive,...
sounds like snowflake Terry got his feelings bruised. It will be ok skippy. I served, I bled. I respect. You stay in the recliner and behave like a good little boy.@@terryjp3050
@@robertsymonds2366 Zero confusion. Excellent communication to ensure a safe boarding. You served hamburgers, bled when you cut yourself with a plastic knife and you have no respect as evidenced by your ignorant comments and childish name calling. Plus you can't spell nor can't use proper punctuation. Time for you to grow up and perform like an adult.
It is discreet enough. Heavy overcast and limited visibility. The pilot is justified under such conditions considering the Port of Rotterdam is the eigth busiest port in the world in terms of outgoing and ingoing maritime traffic.
Christophe Hatch-Berthier they are inbound at the Thames. Its not far away from rotterdam but different river and different country. Its a nasty patch of water to travel.
Groveish ever heard of maritime law. all vessels above a certain tonnage require a local pilot for transiting into and out of harbors and other congested waters.
Maloy7800 if there is a war probably the same procedure but if not one would hope that the sub's captain would be skilled enough to manage ( they manage 99% of the rest of the time at sea)
For most ports it's a legal requirement. In this case, North Spit is the southern approach to the Thames & London, and they brought the Bruinvis all the way up to Canary Wharf in the heart of London. Do they actually need a pilot? Perhaps, perhaps not. But for a friendly visit to a capital port, on a very busy waterway, it's probably best to play by the rules.
I boarded HMNLS Bruinvis off Barry in southeast Wales about 20 years ago. She was bound for Cardiff. Thankfully it was flat calm. She stopped and we approached very slowly at 90 degrees (the only time I've ever done so). I stepped off the bow of the pilot cutter more or less straight onto the top of the casing. Being met by both the OOW and a geezer dressed in full dive gear was an ominous sign. The climb down into the casing trunk and walk through to the ops room wearing a pilot coat (with an integral lifejacket) was very tight. By the time I got to the conning tower, I was bollocksed. I quickly became aware that submariners have a completely different sense of personal space. Normal conversation is held with noses a mere six inches apart.
Amazing I am sure. I grew up in Barry.
That's a first time I have seen a pilot boarding a sub 👍
subs are ships too :)
Delivering a letter to the USS Nautilus with a big swell with a Whale Boat, soon had my on top of the Sub hit and dry with a very hard dismount. Year later it became one of my favorite sea stories to tell around the galley table as a Merchant Marine Captain.. It would start out, "Did I tell you guys about the time I served on a Submarine for a short while?"
That sub that went up north pole? Damn. It must be amazing
That sub that went up north pole? Damn it must be amazing...
Thats quite a small sub ! interesting stuff -thank you stacey -great video
Def. a diesel electric.
This is the least sketchy pilot boarding I’ve ever seen and it was the most cautious and safe 🤣
Cause theres no more bad weather🤣🤣
Yeah I rode boats for 6+ years. Rarely had a pilot transfer at sea this easy. I was maneuvering watch Helmsman done in the control room driving the boat. Pilot transfer in open water had everyone’s attention. I always was ready to slam the rudder toward whatever side the transfer was taking place and the engine room was on as well. If, thank god it never happened in my time. We lost a pilot into the water we were ready to recover him asap.
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amazing video
Years ago I was in hospital and I had to take my lap top in due to the extortionate cost of watching TV there. The other patients wondered why I was just cracked up laughing despite it putting me in considerable pain so I showed them what I was watching on RUclips.
It was of a US navy submarine which was out at sea and a postal boat was dropping off the mail. Unfortunately when the boat was ready to leave it got caught on the plate on the rear of the sub and couldn't get off. First you notice the smoke from the boat as it's excelerating like mad then the sailors jumping in the sea when the sea water enters the exhaust and starts flooding the vessel. It's a brilliant piece of film footage with audio and fortunately all the seamen were rescued.
It should be used as a training video on how not to deliver mail to a US Sub !!!!
I remember the same video but an engineer and helper went down with the boat.
@@richardallison8745 oh, that's awful I feel bad now as I.m sure they said that said everyone on the postal boat got off safely. Puts a different perspective on the whole incident .
@@janetschwartz1790 I agree and I think I seen something in print that the OD and Captain were cleared on the investigation but I seen lots of problems with orders and the ordering of improper bells that made it worse. I can't imagine the engineer that was below struggling with his engine while his boat was slipping under the water.
Unfortunately someone forgot to tell the Pilot that the submarine was about to turn round and head back out to sea for a secret 3 month undersea voyage with no communication allowed with the outside world.
Very good video.
Good job guys
Excellent 👌 video
Das Boot great sub movie!
One of the best. Wolfgang Peterson film.
Never knew subs needed pilots
They are ships as well
Glad the sea wasn’t rough.
Usually the Dutch Royal Navy doesn't need a pilot... #Medway1667
They would if visiting New London, CT.
Nice
That really would suck in pitching rolling seas
We navigated the treacherous Sound on our way to tha baltic without a pilot becoz our master Was a fisherman on those waters..The company saved quite a bundle and sent us a box of fresh flounder in gratitude.
Criminsl
Nice compsny
Coxswains voice @ 2:21 priceless when the pilot was trying to board the sub,, turn up the volume loud to hear him the GoPro picked him up.
He was right too.
@@burlatsdemontaigne6147 couldn't hear it, what he say?
What a wally that pilot was, made hard work of that, let go of the rope at the critical moment. Only that he was being pulled aboard by the crew otherwise he'd have been in the drink. Complete gumby.
Çok güzel bir işiniz var...
AMAZING
So cool
No Submarine carries a Port Pilot as a matter of routine. A pilot is frequently required to safely negotiate a surface transit when entering and leaving port. Even in familiar ports, a pilot may be required. When I served on Diesel Electric Submarines out of New London, CT, we were not required to use a Pilot. Later when I was on Nuclear SSN's out of that same port we were REQUIRED to embark a pilot for entering amd leaving.
On the boats I served on, we did not utilize the pilot however he was embarked. Also, we used the Pilot to act as a communication link between us and the tugboats that were assisting us.
The Russians and indeed every nation do the same thing when entering ports, and certainly FOREIGN ports.... try talking to the Spanish Tugmaster from your Russian or US Submarine... the pilot will solve that.... or maybe Alexa??? lol
Never saw a Pilot during my many trips in and out of New London. Never heard of the Nuke boats either using them back in early 70's. I think we had skippers who knew their boats, the river and how to maneuver them on the Thames. DBF, USS Clamagore, SS 343
@@53bigmikejones You apparently did not read my post. Diesel Boats were not required to embark a Pilot nor were they required to have two tugboats escort them when entering or leaving port.
Nothing to do with ship-handling skill or knowledge of the river - all about ,maneuverability of s single screw boat vs a twin screw boat.
Clamagore could twist and turn in parts of the channel... a single screw boat can not.
COMSUBFLOT TWO mandated the tug/pilot requirements in the 1960s and 1970s. In the eraly to mid 1970s there were fr=ew fully operational diesel boats on the River - the Nukes got all thye Sea Time (unfortunately.)
The passage of time may have convinced you that the Diesel Boats were somehow better crewed - having served 24 years on both I can assure you not everyone shares that perspective.
DBF - unless a shooting war breaks out!
@@53bigmikejones "A pilot is required for all submarine arrivals and departures at the SUBASE. Arriving submarines will normally board pilots north of buoys 5 and 6. According to DMAHTC (1995), boarding south of the buoys can be imprudent due to cross channel current set. Pilots will normally remain on departing submarines until the vessels are south of the highway bridges."
Been this way for over fifty years.
Lmao
@@SaltiDawg2008 Good to get the facts, too many bullshitters on YT👍👍👍
Like something out of a James Bond movie.
BRUH this vids amazin
Why is there not a better, modern system for boarding a pilot. Every vid of a pilot embarking and disembarking is the same risky, dangerous process. With all of mankind's technology, this is the process we have; the same as 3000 years ago. Dang!
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What sound is that? It sounds as if the propeller from the pilot boat touched the submarine.
Like to see how he got off.
me too!
Submarine using Pilot? Vwewy interestink.
Domino's delivery Hot Spot
My father was a deck hand on a submarine
Would this pilot have special clearance? I’m guessing everything on the sub would be classified to military personnel only, so does he pilot from the sail position and not go inside the sub?
I toured the USS North Carolina while it was in Pearl Harbor so everything is not top secret
On a sub they are probably kept above decks anyways and an uneducated guess but on a surface military vessel, the navigation bridge is not the operational heart of the vessel.
But I would be surprised if domestic pilots didn't have some degree of background check done, either overtly or covertly.
The Chinese built it ! No secrets !
It’s a Dutch sub. There are more secrets in your closet.
On my boat Sonar had its own operating compartment, Fire Control covers their screens. You don’t get into the important engineering spaces. Not much more to be concerned with other than that. Most likely they stand at the navigation station in control or in the tower.
I think of knowledge of anti sub devices placed near critical military structure ! Nets or even minefields , constantly changing sandbars in estuaries ?
K tan importante puede ser ese cambio
Excellent. Why is this water coming out from submarine hull?
Submarine pee-pee
@@e.c.listening326 Thanks. But still I do not understand. Is it coming out from ballast tank for reducing weight.
Thanks.
@@cck0728 probably output from some engine cooling circuit or bilge water pumps, a simple way to dispose of onboard water or excess thermal energy, I have no specific knowledge of this vessel. There is no need to keep everything contained in a closed circuit, even on a submarine, you can utilize the medium around it above and under water depending on the current task and position.
@@e.c.listening326 Thanks for your prompt reply. Keep it up.
Either engine cooling water or cooling water from the air conditioning plant.
That’s more difficult then driving the submarine
How can a pilot drive?
@@kasska6717 Because he can't fly
I would think the Navy would have their own certified pilots out of New london
I've done this a few times and it's scary. Looking down there's no real space between the sub and tender and if you end up slipping down you'll be crushed!
What nationality is this sub? German? Interesting sail design.
Looks like a dutch walruss class
diesel-electric, 3 engine, 24km/h surface
Jibril peling pertama
what happens in war - time if the enemy submarine needs a local submarine pilot . . . . . . . .
That pilot better not have a big mouth, great video.
Walus class Netherlands
Bar pilots, river pilots, port pilots, etc; etc;.
Wonder how they pick who boards? LOL
Captai : pilot on the con..
Pilot : tank you captain, Ok set on course 0 3 0, Ahead standard
Helmsman: 0 3 0, Ahead standard eyes sir.
Pilot : periscope depth
Helmsman: periscope depth eyes sir, dive dive dive,...
It is Indian submarin
Dutch submarine
Kebasarn
Try a medevac of someone in a stretcher in state 3 seas by a helo. Scary as shit.
Submarines use pilots?
Only when they fly
absolutely! as every ship does
Typisch weer zo'n bromsnor , interessant kijken maar bang om een stapje te maken
is clearly dutch submarine
German flag on the side of it
Sub type? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
it's a dutch submarine of the Walrusklasse
Hai " PASIFIK "?? Eka Baa"ta "P"
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Bruh
Marko Ramius was demoted to this sub
lol
that is a romulan sub
It's Zr.Ms. not HNLMS.
In NL wel Bas, maar in NATO verband niet. Dan ist gewoon HNLMS
Is he drunk?
Bina an jibir kapal sal lam
Boomer service with a smile. Nicely done.
HNLMS Bruinvis is not a boomer. She's an attack sub.
Ne Amma job cheyadda....,?
Mindless recording 😣
looks like a lot of confusion between, pilot, captain or navigator. I know what the video caption is. But not sure if the video doushbag dose
or maybe your just a whiner???
sounds like snowflake Terry got his feelings bruised. It will be ok skippy. I served, I bled. I respect. You stay in the recliner and behave like a good little boy.@@terryjp3050
@@robertsymonds2366 Zero confusion. Excellent communication to ensure a safe boarding. You served hamburgers, bled when you cut yourself with a plastic knife and you have no respect as evidenced by your ignorant comments and childish name calling. Plus you can't spell nor can't use proper punctuation. Time for you to grow up and perform like an adult.
took him long enough to get up three steps of a ladder
Can we see you doing it faster?
Maloy7800 and of
It can be a white-knuckle experience ... and sometimes you need to change your shorts afterward ...
he's not a sea faring man, that's for sure
@@Damian-qu2fg that is nonsence.
swedish sub?
Dutch
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It is discreet enough. Heavy overcast and limited visibility. The pilot is justified under such conditions considering the Port of Rotterdam is the eigth busiest port in the world in terms of outgoing and ingoing maritime traffic.
Christophe Hatch-Berthier they are inbound at the Thames. Its not far away from rotterdam but different river and different country. Its a nasty patch of water to travel.
Why do submarines need pilots like container ships?
For the same reason as container ships need them, the pilot knows the local area way better than the captain of the vessel.
The sub should have their own pilot onboard. What are they gonna do if there is a war?
Groveish ever heard of maritime law. all vessels above a certain tonnage require a local pilot for transiting into and out of harbors and other congested waters.
Maloy7800 if there is a war probably the same procedure but if not one would hope that the sub's captain would be skilled enough to manage ( they manage 99% of the rest of the time at sea)
For most ports it's a legal requirement. In this case, North Spit is the southern approach to the Thames & London, and they brought the Bruinvis all the way up to Canary Wharf in the heart of London.
Do they actually need a pilot? Perhaps, perhaps not. But for a friendly visit to a capital port, on a very busy waterway, it's probably best to play by the rules.
You'll recieve the Order of Lenin for this.
You will go with the crew,
The officers and I will sink beneath you,
And scuttle the ship.
What a nonsense chainchig a passenger bus driver?maiking fool the whole to make money shame on you *^*^*.
The most highly trained experienced Naval Submarine Captains need help to get in port? Seems very unenessary.
To ask a pilot on board is mandatory in many ports or straits
I've never seen such a physically unfit pilot. A disgrace to the profession !