The Top 10 WORST Capstone Skills in Borderlands History
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- These skill tree capstone are just TERRIBLE - That's why they're The Top 10 WORST Capstone Skills in Borderlands History
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I feel like Hades shakles could of also made the list but other than that I highly agree with it.
For best in no order
1. Leadership is one of my all time favorite capstone's because it's simple but does so much.
2. Ruin for auto slag and you are phaselocking anyway
3. One for Each of Ya
4 to 6, All 3 of zeros
7. Bloodsplosion
8. Avatar
9. Death follows close
10. Short fuse
@derchlands dude your skill tree videos is some of my favorite borderlands videos on RUclips
Yooo! Derch, I love your videos! When farming xp or a rare item on bl2 I love listening to your character breakdowns or good, bad, and ugly videos
That's weird! I just started watching a derch video yesterday showcasing doppelganger skills, welcome back to BL's, I remember you being my plug for bl2 knowledge back in the hayday 🎉🎉
I don't see Hades Shackles as Capstone Worthy, but it does all the stuff for Maelstorm stacks. Only if the Nova scaled from Grenades damage did better.
@@kvetoslavzeleny1764 it's not terrible but it's also a weak part of the tree you don't really use
Having a class mod that specs into a capstone is wild.
Also I did go all spec into purple tree once. Holy shit fl4k couldn’t kill shit. The badass loader pet on the other hand melted everything
I wish they did this with legendary class mods. Just one point in another capstone. It would be silly.
Having Zane's Clone getting a clone of the one gun you had when you summoned it is probably if not the best capstone, then definitely ONE of the best!
Yes! I love that capstone the most.
Laughs in "give pet a copy of your shield"..... granted, that doesn't make up for the rest of the tree being pretty terrible, but if you set it up correctly, purple tree can do some serious work with Fl4k
Revolter shield with ion loader can be god mode just from that one skill
@@cjbrown5359 Faulty star is peak. With mayhem scaling, it does so much damage. +it compliments the other skill that reflects pet damage.
As a Krieg player, Bloodsplosion is easily a top 10 capstone. That says a lot, considering RtB makes melee astonishingly powerful at OP10. Bloodsplosion just has it all:
It can work with melee builds!
It can work with gun builds!
It can work with fire builds!
It can work with hybrid builds!
IT CAN ONE SHOT RAID BOSSES!!! (Pete is easy, but I’ve seen people bloodsplode Vora, Dragons, and maybe even Vermi).
Krieg has two of the all time best capstones.
Can one shot and can one shot reliably are two different things. Pyro Pete sure, but Vora and Dragons are way more RNG dependent cause they move so much.
That’s fair. But he CAN do it, and it’s dope.
Axtons “double up” skill is my fav capstone, gives him a second barrel on his turret and both shoot slag, its an absolute game changer for UVHM, especially when combined with “mag lock”and “longbow turret” makes you able to slag enemies from any angle without swapping weapons, you Can even combine it with the “gemeni” capstone in his survival tree for two turrets.
I use the purple tree for flak so my pet gets a copy of my shield. A nova shield is fun for this.
If you don't play on op. 10, with claws with melee Gaige build is pretty good for mobbing.
Fibber and bee with blood soaked shields are super easy to get and much better though.
Fl4k's purple tree focusing on survivability just seems anathema to Fl4k's expertise in being both a glass cannon alongside aggro management; Their pet can already revive them partway through the green tree for a single point, so more survivability just feels redundant like with Running on Fumes, since Fl4k doesn't really need the extra survivability, their pet is hearty enough that when holding aggro, Fl4k can already be ignored by enemies.
Yeah, and you gotta pay for the purple trees xD. Honestly it wouldn't be that bad if it was base stuff but they made us pay for that crap
@@BearWith_You and BL2 made you pay for literally EVERYTHING aside from the Lilith DLC..... it's almost like companies need money to keep making games, or something like that
@@captainspaulding5963 Its like maybe if you're gonna pay for something extra ontop of the cake it should be gold not shit
Before they made the great and logical decision to swap its position with Death Follows Close, Zane's "Seein' Red" was one of the best capstones in the game. It was the whole reason you worked your way down his Blue skill tree in the early BL3 days as it meant a huge power spike for him (at least until the "Seein' Dead" class mod was introduced).
Any skill that gives you slag is a top 10 for me. Reducing the headache of switching guns nonstop is too good to pass up.
7:08 axton doesn’t actually have any explosive damage increases, just grenade damage and rocket launcher damage bonuses
I always wondered if Axton's nuke was supposed to deal explosive damage & set people on fire like a nuclear flash would do.
I use the nuke to stun enemies.
Having a nuclear skill in the game before radiation became an element should be criminal, like being Axton back so he can do a huge rad AoE
I wonder if the nukem was supposed to be explosive and fire. Honestly missed opportunity to have this in some form of unique or even as a skill for axton to have a chance for explosive dmg he deals to also deal fire dmg and burn DOT.
Nisha's "one for each of ya" and "the unforgiven" for best cap skills, I have an MC'ing FL4K and it's really sad even with an MC'ing class mod, grenade, blue cap skill and the purple tree action skill MC augment.
Many Must Fall is soooo much fun in a first playthrough but then falls off a cliff at TVH and higher. Death Bl0ss0m will always be a favorite thanks to marking multiple enemies and being a source of slag in UVH.
I’d have to say Athena’s Wrath of the Goddess Capstone of her Green tree was pretty fun to use while also being useful for mobbing.
I ran a ThoughtLock buiid with Maya and loved it, reason being I usually killed the Toughtlocked enemy first, let the process transfer to another enemy and then the next. Depending on how many enemy were around I could keep a crowd off of me and at a distance as well. As for the best capstone, Krieg's release the Beast, Zero's Critical Ascension and Salvador's No Kill Like Overkill are all great IMO.
I remember when Zane's capstone got swapped. I hada redo my entire build to get it back. Thats how you know it was a good skill worthy of being a capstone
My faves in no particular order from Borderlands 2, 3 and Pre-Sequel
Kriegs bloodsplosion and release the beast. Nishas one for each of ya. Jacks leadership. Flaks megavore. Mozes short fuze. Axtons double up.
Axton's Double Up capstone singlehandedly makes UVHM so much less of a pain in the ass for mobbing if for no reason other than the fact that it will slag enemies for you
Hear me out but the Phoenix capstone for Lilith is insane. With a Specialist Class Mod and a Fire Relic, you walk next to enemies and they die. Playing with my mate in the General Knoxx DLC, I managed to clear out 90% of the enemies, including the cars just by Phasewalking. Badass enemies didn’t last 2 seconds. Watching the health bars literally disappear in seconds by simply standing next to them is possibly the most fun thing I’ve experienced in Borderlands.
The Phoenix is super powerful in combat but it always feels like there's so many barrels that explode right on top of you the second you get within range
Most of these picks are fine, but Clear the Mind is phenomenal. Even if you are stacking all 5 elements on Amara (which you probably would be), against an Armoured enemy. You're losing Half your fire damage, half your radiation damage and 35% of your shock damage, unless you're specced into Clear the Mind, then all those elements do 100% of their damage against all of the different health bars, Clear the Mind gives Amara WAY more damage, in every situation, with the only real downside being that it's in the purple tree.
sure, but you could just swap weapons instead of wasting 20 points of investment
@axxjazz. I'm not saying it's worth investing into, but calling it bad is just not right. It doesn't matter, on Amara you'll be doing all 5 element all the time, so this skill makes the less effective of the 2 elements and makes them stronger
Hmm, ten best capstones... I'd have to say, in no particular order:
Megavore (20% crit chance on every shot no matter where it hits is insanely good, especially for the glass cannon that is FL4K)
Double Barrel (giving Zane's clone a dupe of your gun is just kinda broken when the clone doesn't need to reload)
Wrath of the Goddess (okay maybe not the best capstone in terms of function but playing Athena like she's Captain America is just so much fun)
Promote the Ranks (similar to Double Barrel, having Jack clones is already a godsend and having a badass clone is even moreso)
One For Each of Ya (giving Nisha a second copy of her pistol basically makes her a pseudo-Salvador, and we all know how broken Salvador could be)
Come At Me Bro (a health restore and damage reduction is already fantastic on its own, and the taunt for drawing aggro is always going to be a handy trick in co-op. Plus Salvador flips the bird to activate it and that's hilarious)
No Kill Like Overkill (the excess damage added to Salvador's weapons just creates a snowball effect of stacking excess damage to bowl over everything in Sal's way)
Double Up (Axton getting a second turret is nice, but the turrets now dealing Slag damage makes this skill invaluable simply for allowing Axton to slag enemies without having to swap weapons)
Ruin (again, allowing a BL2 character to inflict slag without swapping weapons is golden. This could have also been Scorn, but I went with Ruin since I feel Maya is less likely to be throwing around a lot of melee attacks, though mayhaps it's the better skill for bosses)
Death Bl0ss0m (being able to apply Zer0's death mark from range is incredibly useful in all contexts, especially since death mark doesn't just apply to Zero's damage but also his allies')
And as an honorable mention I'd like to point towards Lilith's Phoenix from BL1, since while most capstones are just meh in that game, Phoenix's double whammy of not consuming ammo and causing fire around Lilith is pretty potent. Phase Strike is also pretty good from the sheer damage multiplier (800%!!!), but a bit more situational since it's melee-out-of-phasewalk only.
Good answers
im going to be 100% honest here: I spec'd purple tree cuz I saw "war loader" and I thought i was gonna get a BL2 style war loader. I like mecha so i still kept using it anyway as Flak isnt my main, but damn.
Moze's short fuse in the demolition woman tree, also Nisha's capstone that let's her duel wield whatever pistol she's already using.
This.
nisha with double luck cannon is pretty fun
I had a feeling Axton's Nuke would've been here, it's actually taken my brother as Krieg a few times
Before Mayhem existed I would have said Amara green capstone. Turning the entire map into a giant game of pinball where the ball is actually a wrecking ball is an insane amount of fun. It was the most fun I had before Spirit Driver existed
My absolute favorite capstone has got to be bloodsplosion. It's probably my all time favorite skill in borderlands and the sound of a bloodsplosion chain breaking the audio makes my brain happy. In general I think Kreig has a bunch of useful capstones, they all fit well and feel pretty impactful. Though his fireball capstone is not flashy, it is very good for maintaining flame stacks if you are doing other elemental damage types. such as running through a loader area with a corrosive kitten.
The pre sequel had a huge issue with the co-op skills, with Aurelia being the worst (in my opinion). I didn't pick it up until there was basically no one to co-op with so that skill tree was a write-off from day one.
I love Moze's Shield of Retribution, but the best way to make use of that tree is with the Deathless+Bloodletter combo, making the capstone skill absolutely useless.
I run green + blue skill trees one-shot FL4K build with three shots Fade Away and some really powerful launchers. The fundamental idea is "what if we keep St4ckbot class mod stacks at +495% damage by just not shooting between Fade Aways and stack as much cooldown speed as possible". It works surprisingly well, i can beat True Guardian Takedown M10 solo with this build. Since you can't shoot for several seconds while Fade Away is cooling down, Dominance comes in handy from time to time as a self-defence tool. Blue tree has a lot of bonuses to damage and tankiness of both pet and FL4K while orange capstone isn't really needed if you never use high RoF / high pellet count weapons.
Aurelia's red tree being co-op oriented doesn't make it a waste of points. If you have a friend to play the game with, the potential max bonuses to Aurelia and servant combined make these skills some of the most powerful skills in the game. Ability to knock back your enemies and slightly buff whole team's movement and reload speed for 12s is a nice addition for a sniper-support class which is Aurelia's role. If you play solo, why even pick Aurelia? And btw, you can go through her red tree picking skills that work in solo game, there are several of them in that tree. They are weaker but still offer decent buffs for damage stats.
Moze's capstone skill in her blue tree. It basically turns all kinds of weapons into splash weapons. And since Moze boosts splash damage with her blue tree... you can do the math.
Tbf Amara has a fun build when you use her purple tree capstone with a melee build, a face puncher, a white elephant, and an ice breaker relic. Trigger with 1 kill and your face puncher shoots seemingly sticky ice grenades. And i think also in the purple tree theres a skill that allows melee attacks to cause aoe explosions so every trigger pull on a face puncher makes it look like blue fireworks with many pellets worth of ice novas lol.
The true moral of this video is that the BL3 purple skill trees were NOT worth the loss of extra playable characters 😂
Has that been stated anywhere? That the devs decided to make those tress instead of a new VH? Also Kronii x Mumei for life!
Looking at the nuke footage it does seem like the nuke does "some" explosive damage before tapering off into fire damage as if to try and simulate the fallout of a nuclear blast however it appears to be only 2 ticks of it, one when the nuke goes off and another as the enemies around it are pushed back via the nuke shockwave/force.
Fl4k's megavore, Moze's short fuse, and Maya's ruin are my three favorites
The 'we ran out of ideas, hot garbage' capstones
Since i love melee the best capstone in my opinion is RELEASE THE FUCKIN BEAAAAST!!!!!!! BY FAR THE BEST CAPSTONE TO ME, I want to rampage and rip people apart and release the beast made it so much more badass and fun. in my opinion they need to give every melee character a beast mode. I want a melee brawler character in 4 similar to krieg or brick that transforms into a whereskag!!
On krieg, everyone talks about bloodsplosion but don't give release the beast the love it deserves, not only does it increase melee but a big jump in damage resistance, along with being able to chain your ults is a massive bonus
the first good capstones that come to mind when talking about good is Bloodsplosion, Megavore, Short fuse, Death bl0ssom, Critical ascention, Double barrel and zanes blue tree which I forgot the name of
I only use Fl4k's purple tree to make my Nurse Fl4k and I still don't go all the way to the capstone. My pet gets all the kills with this build on M11 while I use gear you would almost certainly never use, and it is hilarious. (Also, Teammates like me).
Action Skill: Gamma Burst with Atomic Aroma and Endurance
Pet: Horned Skag
Green:
5 Self Repairing System = 30% Max Health/1.5% Health Regen
3 Sic Em = 30% Attack Command Dmg/30% Attack Command CD
4 Eager to Impress = 2S Action Skill CD on Pet Kill and auto reset of Attack Command
3 All My BFFs = Share half my health regen with allies and all regen with Pet (note all my health regen as we go).
3 Turn Tail and Run = 0.9% Health regen/21% Dmg Red while moving and some while standing-still bonuses I don't care about.
3 Fast and the Furryous = While >50% Health; 30% Pet Dmg/10% Move Spd.
Blue:
5 Ferocity = 50% Pet Dmg
3 Persistent Hunter = 45% Action Skill Duration
5 Go for the Eyes = 75% Pet Crit Dmg and 1st Melee attack by pet on each enemy is guaranteed crit. (Horned Skag attack command is a melee atk).
5 Who Rescued Who = 2% Health Regen for 5 sec after pet deals dmg (combine with He Bites for constant Health Regen).
1 He Bites = Pet reflects 5% dmg (Only picked to proc Who Rescued Who)
1 Psycho Head on a Stick = 12% Pet move spd/20% Pet dmg kill skill
1 Mutated Defenses = Pet dropping to critical health level causes it to gain 30% dmg res/6.7% Health Regen for 6 sec.
3 Pack Tactics = 15% Max Health for Fl4k and Pet/21% Dmg for Fl4k and Pet
Orange:
Nothing. SHOCKING I know.
Purple:
5 Gotta Go Fast = 35% Pet Dmg/40% Pet Move spd (with Psycho Head, this lets the Horned Skag zip around and catch enemies easily)
5 Agility Training = 40% Reload Speed for Fl4k and Pet (Just to move down tree but still useful).
1 Combat Veterinarian = 30% of dmg dealt goes to healing for Pet.
3 Throat Ripper = 15% for Pet to Crit (Megavore for Pet).
1 Take This = Pet Gets Copy of Fl4k's Shield (Absolutely Critical for the Build)
5 Monkey Do = Pet gets 70% more crit dmg, among other stuff (combined with Throat Ripper and Go For the Eyes deals a lot of dmg)
5 Not Even a Challenge = Stacking 35% Skill Duration and Cooldown for each Pet kill, 10 Stacks max (Always have Gamma Burst up)
Notice absolutely no Capstones needed.
Gear:
The Res (you heard me), Hive, EM-P5 (For Running Fast), and Guardian 4N631. (Gamma Burst Active Rad Dmg Anoint on everything)
King Arthur's Holy Grail (I promise, I'm still not joking) = 30% Max Health/3% Health Regen AND Reviving an Ally gives both Fl4k and the Ally 50% Wpn Dmg/33% Move Spd/AND 10% Health Regen for a full minute. (Pet counts as an ally if you revive it, which you can do with The Res BTW, plus your teammates if you want to).
Red Fang so Enemies ignore me.
Grenade doesn't matter, I use The Piss grenade to soften up enemies for the Pet.
Brawler Ward Shield = 2% Health Regen Shielded/4% Health Regen un-shielded/300% Roid Dmg on Melee while broken (Remember, the pet is also wearing this shield, and the Horned Skag is almost exclusively Melee; and his Shield will always be depleted so 300% more Pet dmg that stacks with other dmg from the skill trees and scales with Mayhem)
On average, my Fl4k has 9.4% Max Health Regen/sec with 75% more Max Health (up to 21.4% with shield depleted and Holy Grail active; and this doesn't include passive roles on class mod). This is shared with Pet and Allies keeping both alive fairly well. If anyone goes down, I shoot with the Res and activate Holy Grail. The Pet is near immortal even with Gamma Burst down because of all the shared health regen, and the only time I ever see him go down is in Mayhem Water when Gamma Burst is over, but I just shoot Pet with The Res and watch it zoom around with the Move Spd from the Holy Grail.
You kill things by using the Attack Command for the Horned Skag. It is a Melee Charge so it auto crits from Go For The Eyes (If it is the first attack on that enemy) and the build has massive pet dmg bonuses and the 300% from the Brawler Ward Shield; and the dmg bonus from holding the Guardian 4N631. The Attack Command auto resets its cooldown if Pet kills an enemy, so you can spam it. On the occasions that the Horned Skag can't hit the enemies, switch to War Loader with Messy Breakup Shield (or fire an 86% amped Hive shot from the other effect of Monkey Do, then switch to the 4N631 before the Hive ball starts firing).
For favorite capstones,
Borderlands 2: Axton's Gemini. I tend to play solo, so having an extra sentry to deploy is appreciated. It's probably on the same level as Double Up, giving your sentry an extra turret and slag bullets, but to each their own, I just like Gemini.
Borderlands Pre: Athena's Wrath of the Goddess. This is more of an honorable mention to me since it's more for the tree itself instead of Wrath of the Goddess alone that I like. It invokes fun memories of me and my brother, me pulling out my shield, him hitting me with a rocket launcher that dealt every damage, instantly charging my shield with all elements, then launching it at a horde.
Borderlands 3: Moze's Short Fuse. It literally turns any weapon you hold into a Torgue weapon, what's not to love? Just slap on a gun with high RPM like an assault rifle or machine gun and the explosions will roll on in.
Hmmm. One that sounds a bit obvious but I'm going to say it anyway, Zer0's Kunai/Death Blossom. Very useful regardless of the build you use for Zer0 and it also gives you an option of slag so you don't have to shoot to slag a target and also of course the fact that it debuffs the enemy is the cherry on top. Even after Gearbox kept nerfing it over and over again, it didn't stop people from taking it because it's so crucial.
Moze's Short Fuse capstone is just unfair.
"Hey! You know how Moze does really high damage and has infinite ammo? Well, what if we give her even more damage and make it so all of her shots have a chance to cause splash damage?"
For best capstone I can't help but love Krieg's Bloodsplosion. It's powerful, and it can really change the dynamic of the game once you have it (Pyro Pete who)
The best capstone is Maya's Ruin. On paper it doesn't look amazing but it makes gameplay feel so much smoother. That automatic slag on enemies is a privilege and I notice myself missing it when I'm playing other characters.
Critical Ascension and Scorn are disgusting. Avatar for Amara is nasty, too. Proc your action skill twice while it's on cooldown? Yes please
Best Capstones: Double up and Gemini for Axton, Bloosplosion and Release the Beast for Krieg, Ruin for Maya, Megavore for FL4K, Short Fuse for Moze, and Double Barrel for Zane
This got me thinking. Wouldn't it be a good idea to make a list of top 10 (or 15 considering how many candidates there are) non-capstone skills that are way stronger than capstones?
I love this idea. Thank you!
Jack’s leadership skill just synergies so well that I feel like it should be in the top 5 best cap stones
Moses purple tree capstone is actually really good
The fact that I could run from the start of the guardian takedown to halfway through without iron bear running out time is ridiculous
Yeah but you can literally get Iron Bear back instantly most of the time as is.
@@Ki11ersix I gotcha I gotcha 😊 I was running full iron bear mode that's why I mentioned it
It was funny to see iron bear decimate everything 😂
I remember day 1 it was used as FFYL saver now it's useful
Bloodsplosion is definitely my favourite capstone. Some other capstone skills might be more game changing depending on context, but the immediate impact on your playthrough once you click that skill and for the sheer fun of seeing a chain reaction of explosions that clears an entire room? Bloodsplosion all the way!
Zer0's Death Blossom is a must have capstone on any build and is easily a top 10 capstone skill
I remember The forbidden Hyperion flack playthrough the purple skill tree was a curse
Release the beast will always be a number 1 honest choice. It feels like a capstone and completely changes the dynamic and power level of krieg so easily. Bloodsplosion being a close second, but both are just so unbelievably overpowered for different reasons
Dude, Dominace is very useful when heavy mobbing. It's basically an on effect Red Fang taunt centered on the affected enemy. You trigger it constantly with aimed shot crits. Works the same as Mesmer. It's awesome for crowd control and creating breathing room on Fade Away cooldowns. Very useful for Maliwan Takedown and any place with mob density like Slaughter Shaft, etc.
Saying its the same as an easy to obtain grenade kinds proves my point though, doesn't it?
Or you can get peregrine a good grenade and press the action skill button on your keyboard and watch everything die before the effect of dominance could run out.
@@Ki11ersix Tho having it as a skill allows you to use grenade slot for something more powerful like Hunter Seeker (which can also trigger Dominance on top of a bunch of other skills).
Maya’s Ruin capstone is probably one of my favorites, that, and I just really like having Blight Phoenix.
Zane’s Sunny D capstone is also pretty good.
The one where you put the stinky on em is pretty good
I’ve had almost every capstone in borderlands games at some point, and I generally agree with this list, but trying to figure out my favorite is pretty difficult. If I had to pick one it probably be Nisha’s one for each of ya. Getting to basically permanently gunzerk with pistols, doubling the fire rate of your unkept. Harald is so godly, especially when combined with her ability. Plus, basically all pistols work because pistols are just great weapons in the franchise anyway.
In my opinion fl4k has both best and worst capstone, we know worst being purple but red tree capatone is just amazing, being able to crit more often with wide spread weapons or projectiles you cannot control like convergence or reflux beams, not mentioning that fl4k has a lot of cool crit skills
Best Capstone Skill for me would probably be Zane's Doubled Barrel and Moze's Forge in BL3. Life saving Capstones
Hhmm kinda like maya thought lock the basic flak maya skill 🤔
Flak'a skill can be easily replaced with the Mesmer grenade, and Maya's is pointless. I know because I tried it and immediately reset my skills.
Zane’s Doubled Agent capstone is definitely making top 3 no doubt.
Zer0’s Critical ascension and Nisha’s One For Each of Ya are super OP
@@Mrcheeseman200 is sad that the dual wield glitch got patched out for Nisha :( but still your so right
Double Barrel is just ridiculous. Clone with a Sandhawk or No Pewpew means I can go to the bathroom and make a sandwich while my clone clears the map.
Well, Moze's Short Fuse Capstone is great. As is Krieg's Bloodsplosion or Release the Beast
also with axtons nuke it does explosive damage but applies a fire dot i find it one of my favourite capstones doe nvhm and tvhm but always gets dropped in uvhm
Hmm, what's my favorite capstone? Nishas capstones are super fun, but in terms of what is the best..?thats a real question...maybe flak or sal honestly. Throwing up middle fingers is awesome, but getting a damage boost because of it? Sick. And flak is just all around awesome
I think if bloodsplosion isn’t on the follow up it’d be a disservice to Kreig fans.
Even as someone who hasn't played BL2 in forever, i can tell you that critical ascension and bloodsplosion are making the best list
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Bloodsplosion isn't even that good. It's just an AoE attack with immense versatility and damage potential that stacks with just about every Kreig build and can humilate the Pyro Pete raid boss. Complete trash
I think With Claws is by far the worst capstone. On top of being pretty weak, it has no synergy with the rest of the tree apart from requiring anarchy stacks to begin with. There's nothing in that tree that helps with Gaige's melee (quite the contrary, blood soaked shields hinders melee builds by giving you shields when you kill an enemy, so you lose the roid bonus). And to top it all off, if you include With Claws, Gaige has a total of 3 skills that increase her melee damage. Strength of Five Gorillas giving up to 33% melee damage, if you boost it with a class mod and Upshot Robot giving 4% every time you kill someone with DT active. Capacitance, while not exactly amazing, at least has synergy with the rest of the tree. I would move With Claws to #1, then probably Nuke and Capacitance at #3.
Dominance is another skill that I disagree with. It has a lot of synergy with Fl4k's other skills, both for applying it, and when it is applied to an enemy. While not as strong and impactful as Megavore or The Power Inside, it definitely has its use cases. I would've replaced it on the list with Zane's Confident Competence. Up to 35% gun damage and 50% accuracy when your shield is full is laughable for a capstone, and it's on the worst tree as well, so you're wasting a lot of points to get that far in the first place.
As for the strongest capstones, Ruin, Double Up, Death Bl0ss0m, Avatar, Megavore and Wrath of the Goddess are all amazing utility skills and work pretty much in any type of build. Critical Ascensi0n, No Kill Like Overkill, Bloodsplosion, Short Fuse, Double Barrel, One For Each Of Ya and The Unforgiven are amazing damage skills. And then there's also Leadership, which transforms Jack into an absolute beast in the battlefield.
Yeah, I love Avatar, but I've realized recently that I don't need it at all on Amara. I basically get my action skill back instantly now.
Leadership is so insanely good and its a shame a lot of Borderlands players have never played TPS let alone tried DoppleJack.
While he's not my favorite character to play in the Pre-Sequel, I have to shoutout The Doppelganger's Leadership capstone. Giving him all of his kill skills on a controllable trigger was absolutely phenomenal.
Bl3 capstone is just wrong besides fl4ks purple capstone. Dominance is insane for fl4k with the reflux. His strongest mobbing shotgun as it allows you to use single target with him which by itself makes it worth it.
Clear the mind is INSANELY good for non gun builds as you aren't punished for not element matching. Especially element locked stuff like the pestilence one of amaras best mobbing guns. Amara action skills not being punished is also amazing.
Running on fumes is insanely good for Flare builds. One of mozes best class mods for gun builds. Since you don't have iron cub attacking in flare builds it is perfect to get and you can get a bunch of stuff anyways going down there.
You completely ignored Forge, Tenacious Defense, Blitz, Forceful Expression, and Confidence Competence which have a lot better chance being in this list than the 3 skills you mentioned.
Forge is great on Moze. Not 100% necessary but still never-ending ammo on ANY weapon regardless of mag size.
Tenacious Defense is loved by Pumpkin Spice tree lovers
Forceful Expression is not super exciting but at least it's extra damage AND boosts Indiscriminate damage too.
Confident Competence again is not great, but it's also not dogwater like DOUBLE SHIELD or MELEE THAT DOESNT DO DAMAGE. So yeah, it COULD have been on here (mainly because of the tree its in) but I think everything I listed was pretty bad.
also, Running on Fumes is so super unnecessary. Moze benefits much more from proc-ing ASE and ASA anoints than by keeping an often drunk Iron Cub running around.
@Ki11ersix cub staying up can literally give up to 100% v1 damage that double dips in the strongest capstone in the game that moze can't give otherwise. I know you love forge but it's only 5% as a capstone when you can get 2.5% on a tier 2 skill and other class mods can boost a point making it 2/1 which is 5%. It's okay to reload on moze. Forceful Expression is not that good. It's a low % bonus element. Confidence competence is straight up shit. It has 0 uses. Running on fumes, clear the mind, and dominance have uses
Also something can be loved and not be good. I love the one pump chump. You love the hellwalker. Doesn't mean that its a good gun. Still low tier
I love the Hellwalker on normal mode and use it occasionally at endgame.
I’ve heard reasons why you’re absolutely right about v1 and all the other math stuff, but I can resummon Iron Bear near instantly and trigger my ase, asa and ass anoints easily. Guess it’s preference and to me that capstone feels largely pointless. These vids always have personal opinion so just know you’re not wrong and neither am I.
High Fives Guys maybe shouldn't be a capstone but it's hilarious running up to enemies with your hand up and getting 50% fire rate, 15% gun damage and 3% health regen while taking no damage from the hit.
Sal's Overkill capstone is just broken, especially when paired with moneyshot. Killing pyro pete's spiderants with a world burn to get overkill, then using a buffed up sandhawk-grog-ladyfist combo on him feels so good man.
Nisha's Thunder Crackdown has very little value considering her others (One For Each of Ya and Unforgiven) are among the best of anyone.
I just played BL1 and tried Lilith's Phoenix skill. It killed me more than the enemies because it kept blowing up barrels next to me and on top of that, whenever I would exit a vehicle after running someone over the fire damage from it would immediately blow it up.
With Claws would have been much better if it was 2% Melee DMG per anarchy stack. And for Amara's CLear the Mind, should have boosted Elemental Damage and Duration on top of what it offers imho.
Bruh... My most fun Fl4k build is a purple tree build. Check out TermX's guide, I modified it quite a bit, but that's the base of it. I certainly agree the purple capstone is underwhelming on its own, but with a CMDL3T com, you get the capstone AGAIN! Sure, it lacks the outright damage of other VHs (about on par for bossing with a phasezerker Amara), but it makes you utterly invincible with over 1m shield and just shooting heals your shield (by the passive crits, you don't even have to aim for the head, though if you are a good critter, obviously that's even more effective. It's a pretty gear dependant build, I'm currently running it with a 2xturtle, 1xcapacity Infernal wish for about 800k shield which is the sweet spot imo, combined with urad anoints and a snowdrift deathless (with 28% rad damage as well other great stats), the damage is not great, but respectable (I can do true trials without cheesing, but it's not quick. It turns FL4Ks weakness (squishiness) into his greatest strength, and sacrifices about 30% overall damage. Spoiler - try a Lob with this purple tree/cmdl3t/infernal wish/deathless/urad build. If you want the save file I'll join the discord and pass it along. ;)
Bottom line, any capstone you can make an effective 'true raid' build around, can't be the number 1 worst in the game. :P
One of the best is the last point from Maya’s healing tree which you can get shortly after beating normal mode and onwards
Amara's 4th skill tree capstone works with her melee build in general. Especially if you're building for Cryo and the whole Rainbow damage burst.
Double casting on Amara is top tier for easy stacks. And the one from the red tree.
The doppelganger "Sponsored by..." skill from the pre sequel is a really cool and unique skill.
I think release the beast on krieg, come at me bro on Salvador, and ruin on Maya are def my top three... But I also think bloodsplosion on krieg and one for each of ya on Nisha should be on the top ten list as well
If you run flaks purple tree, with a madcap, and a lunacy class mod, it basically turns flak into a tank
8:24 I'm quite curious why you threw trespass into the mix here. I've used it on many builds and it's always worked wonders for me.
Zer0's Death Bl0ssum skill is great but combine it with Death Mark and it's god tier.
Thoughtlock is additional 4 sec. Total 14.5 if spec'd into suspension.
Yeah. Still sucks
I Actually Thought Axtons Nuke Skill Was Good Despite its lack of Explosive Damages Due To Its Knock Back. It Was Really Good For Mobbing
I definitely think Bore for Zero should have been a capstone because it's just so O.P
Zane - Double Barrel, Digi clone with your currently equipment weapon is Insane.
Especially with an - ION Cannon or Monocle
My favorite is axton with two slag turrets. And boosting explosion damage.
kriegs bloosplosion. just the ability to kill one enemy and then sit back and watch as an entire map is deleted from existence will never not be satisfying.
For best capstone, Zer0's Many Must Fall is definitely up there. It just cements his whole ninja theme.
Love MMF with a Rapier
I don’t know about number 9 it has one great use of whenever you’re fighting shadow trap and he does that thing where he spawns the clones and if you don’t find him his shield regens, if mark the real one he’s pinged and you instantly know where he is.
Megavore is probably one of the best capstones in the franchise. The synergy with the rest of the red skill tree is huge and it's a massive damage boost even if you have k6 aim.
Zane's double barrel can also be extremely broken with the right weapon like sandhawks or grease trap.
12) double up. 11) Release the beast. 10) the unforgiven 9) no kill like over kill. 8) avatar 7) forge 6) bloodsplosion 5) Ruin 4) death bloosom 3) death follows close 2) critical ascension. 1) short fuse.
These are the best capstone in the series
Moze: Short fuse & Fl4k: Megavore
The best capstones are the ones that completely change and break the character so something like ruin on maya can’t be the best since she is already great without it. However something like overkill on Sal does break his character and changes everything
Some more that come to mind is death blossom and bloodsplosion