At Idle I prefer the Akra without DB killer (more throaty) but on the move I couldn't notice much difference so SC project is the winner for me considering it's an end can so, cheaper, road legal and I'm guessing you wouldn't need remaping (could be wrong).Great video Dan!
Great video. The SC project wins for me, mainly because of the cost. In terms of sound its so close. Would have preferred a under-slung exhaust though, and I'm being picky.
I wasn't sure if I wanted to put a new exhaust on my CB650R and in the end I kept the stock one. I like the stock sound well enough and I don't like either of the Akra or SC systems looks tbh. Stock looks best, for sound I'd go to Akra. 😅
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Honestly they sound very similar. A 4 cylinder with an exhaust is going to sound pretty much as you expect. It's pretty much up to looks, quality, or the baffle if you need one
Guys also check out Termignoni exhaust (H16109410I-SO01). It is under belly and has no springs. Closest to the clean design of the stock imo while having sick growl. Something I will be going for most likely.
Akrapovic has a deeper sound than the sc project I like the placement of akra clean looks more than sc but sc has an advantage in case the motorcycle falls to the right side it will protect some parts of the bike, did you compare the 2 who is louder using a decibel meter.
Nice comparison bro, sc project is better look than ackrapovic but I think the ackrapovic sound is too much better. I'm thinking about to install mivv in my cbr650r nice sound and +5,5 hp👍
Hey mate, I really love your comparisons, the best out there ;) im tending to buy the ixil hyperlow xl exhaust, just sad no one made a good quslity video like yours from it :( do you maybe know someone with it or do you have any experience from it? Im sorry for my bad english thank you very much for your work! Greetings ;)
Is it possible to make the sc project exhaust louder? Cause I got one for myself and thought what if I cut that cylinder end part just before the muffler. What it make it sound bad?
Which one is more worth buying? In terms of - Sound - Loudness (which is louder)? I am going to buy a new exhaust, but i don't really know which. Let me also know if you have a favorite on the CB 650 R :D Thanks Julian
Great comparison. I think you may have mislabelled the fly-bys.There is double with sc project - think one of them may be the Akra. Check it out. I may be wrong.
Merci beaucoup pour cette nouvelle vidéo sur la ligne SC ! Un an que je me questionne sur le choix de la ligne d'échappement pour ma CB. Ce sera la SC1-M !!! Elle est vraiment très esthétique et reste légale Euro4. Parfait pour moi :-)
I'm American but live in the Philippines. It really puzzles me as to exhaust pricing. I know both of these systems from Europe and the US cost easily $1k+ and yet people here in SEA are running clones that can run $300 for the full system including labor for install. I know they are clones but I've seen the work that goes into the canisters and they are doing it properly including baffles and fiberglass packing. I wonder though in the long term if these Asian versions in the real world are any different from the originals and would affect the life of the engine. I mean in the end it's all just metal following specific dimensions and shape right? It's a tough thing to decide if I'll blow the cash on an imported exhaust system or get a locally made one that sounds exactly the same.
Hi, is this plug and play or is there still a need to adjust air to fuel ratio? I'm concerned new pipe will make the engine run lean. Pls. Advice. Thank you
Db killer, not yet. It's pretty hard to remove it and I've not managed to yet. You might be able to cut the weld and remove the cat but I think it's not worth risking the damage.
I too have this Full systemAkrapovic on my CBR 650F. In my opinion, there is no better exhaust than Akra. I have Arrow can on my Triumph Street Triple 675. One of my friends has full system Akra on his BMW s1000 rr
Has anyone seen the SC project one with dual tips? Does it sound different than this one? I decided the dual tip looks way better than these looks. I ended up deciding it was worth the 500 bucks more for me since I had to export it to Canada.
Anyone know if I have to put a cat in to keep it legal in the EU and keep my warranty? Dealer said anything thats legal in the EU (E number or ABE) wont void my warranty
Hi, can I ask you of you have remapped your engine on the CB 650R after installing the new exhaust system? If not, do you have any problems, because many people say that can cause overheating?
There is always a risk when adding a system that makes an already lean bike even more lean. When I added the Akra race system I rode it on some hot days, kept an eye on the temps and it was never overheating. Even on my week tour of Germany it never got close to overheating so it seems to be fine. The SC Project has a cat so is less free flowing and the bike feels better with that on. As always, keep an eye on things and make sure your fluids are checked regularly. Short answer, seemed to be ok for me. :)
I wanted to ask something, cause I'm new to the world of motorcycles and i don't know anything about exhausts .. so .. I want to know it's wrong decision to go for the sc project exhaust ( stainless steel) compare to akrapovic ( titanium ) and I'm talking about the quality ! What's ur opinion? ( the exhausts I look is sc carbon sc1-r and the carbon euro 4 akra ) anything u can say about these exhausts would be very helpful! Thnx a lot !!
As far as I know, only the muffler of the Akrapovic is titanium and the headers are stainless steel. The same goes for the SC Project, depending on which muffler you choose. I would say Akrapovic and SC Project are about the same in terms of quality. So it just depends what look you prefer.
@@Markymoo992 Sorry I meant you can get away without a remap. I never did the remap as trhe Power Commander wasn't available, or at least, that's whay Dynojet told me at the time.
@@Englishbikerdan Oh right lol that makes sense since at the time of the video these bikes were new to the market. They have them now lol, which did you end up choosing in the end?
@@Markymoo992 Yeah, I reached out to DynoJet at the time bu they told me none were available. I'm sure the PC for CB650F would have worked fine. In the end, I went with SC project because it ran better without any remap needed.
I have the sc project and if you change the air filter sound way better of the akrapovick........remind to me the sound of the old formula 1 v10 engine........
Put a video online to listen your beautiful machine When you installed the air filter and the exhaust do you had muck more performance? Did you had to make a remap?
@@diogocoelho496 no there is no need to remap i just buy rapid bike easy its the one controll the O2 sensor to make the fuel little bit more rich, he does get better acceleration and sound I left the db killer because without its crazy loud.
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Sound could go either way for me. I love the under belly exhaust look of the Akra/stock exhausts, really cleans up the rear of the bike!
Akrapovic without DB killer all day long!
Akra for me, looks very clean and sounds awesome.
I cant wait for my CB to arrive in 10 to 12 days and to choose which exhaust to get. Your videos about the exhausts help quite alot, cheers Dan!
the only real /classic honda sound is Yoshimura....
@@felipeastaburuaga8040 not legal everywhere my guy
Akrapovic, on fly by i think have more grunt and the pipes with the setup 4-2-1 looks great
really liked the comparison at the start of the video, thanks for making this!
I guess I’m “old school”, or maybe I’m just an “old fart”😉, but I like the SC Project the best for its sound and looks 👍.
I must be an old fart too 👍😂
yessir!
At Idle I prefer the Akra without DB killer (more throaty) but on the move I couldn't notice much difference so SC project is the winner for me considering it's an end can so, cheaper, road legal and I'm guessing you wouldn't need remaping (could be wrong).Great video Dan!
Don’t think it’s an end can. Pretty sure it’s a while system
Well done. I would like to hear the oem exhaust too. Easier to compare the three. Thank you!
I really want to hear that difference too! Looking forward to get my CB650R deliverd :)
@@gregxn2868 It really is that good everybody says! Congratulations!
Sounds like a hair dryer
Great video. The SC project wins for me, mainly because of the cost. In terms of sound its so close. Would have preferred a under-slung exhaust though, and I'm being picky.
Yep, I actually prefer side mounted exhausts. For the money and the fact the SC is totally road legal it's a winner for me.
@@Englishbikerdan What makes the SC project road legal? And why is the akra not?
@@glaviationcph you need a euro4 cat and db killer to match euro4
@@phil3866 Thank you 👍
@@glaviationcph akrapo you have the road legal version,but tbh,doesn't sound nice and cost a lot more(oh ye,and the cat is an extra basically xD)
I like the Akro... the looks and the sound! But it’s personal opinion at the end of the day! Great video mate nice channel also! ✌🏼😆
makes me appreciate just how good the trident 660 sounds.
As in, you prefer Triples? I think my fave bike sound is a vtwin.
Has to be the Akraprovic, what a sound!
Dan, I go for the akra... Underbelly exhaust looks sexy for me! 😎
Cheers for the awesome vids as always!
For me, the SC project at idle sounds better, but prefer the looks of the Akrapovic. At speed, both sound the DB’s
Both exhaust sound excellent without db killer. but I'll go with akrapovic because of the look.
The Akra is sexy AF. Would love to have one on my CB650R. 👍
Finally a reasonable exhaust comparison video. Very nice
For price, a foot long drill bit to add 3 small holes through the stock baffles, and add remapping for the fuel injection.
on the stock exhaust?
I wasn't sure if I wanted to put a new exhaust on my CB650R and in the end I kept the stock one. I like the stock sound well enough and I don't like either of the Akra or SC systems looks tbh. Stock looks best, for sound I'd go to Akra. 😅
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Thank you kindly!
Sc sounds like yeah a motorbike
But the akrapovic sounds monster bike
I prefer the Akra cause it looks cleaner and it just sounds better
Wow they both sound amazing, very well done on the video
Honestly they sound very similar. A 4 cylinder with an exhaust is going to sound pretty much as you expect. It's pretty much up to looks, quality, or the baffle if you need one
Akrapovic is love💝
SC Project Wins. Great Sound compare to Akrapovic
SC hands down
Guys also check out Termignoni exhaust (H16109410I-SO01). It is under belly and has no springs. Closest to the clean design of the stock imo while having sick growl. Something I will be going for most likely.
Akrapovic has a deeper sound than the sc project I like the placement of akra clean looks more than sc but sc has an advantage in case the motorcycle falls to the right side it will protect some parts of the bike, did you compare the 2 who is louder using a decibel meter.
SC for me
It depends on your budget the Akro if you can afford cause it looks better, sound-wise they are about the same.
Looks are subjective of course. I actually prefer the classic side mounted exhausts. Go with what tickles your gizzard! 👍
Nice comparison bro, sc project is better look than ackrapovic but I think the ackrapovic sound is too much better. I'm thinking about to install mivv in my cbr650r nice sound and +5,5 hp👍
Did you tell your insurance about changing the exhaust? I really want an Akro just don’t want any issues with insurance.
Could you tell the difference in weight? Are these after market systems significantly lighter than the stock one?
Thanks
awesome vid! can't really deside between the two...
what do you think about the scorpion exhaust for this bike considering price and looks?
Both sound awesome
Hey mate, I really love your comparisons, the best out there ;) im tending to buy the ixil hyperlow xl exhaust, just sad no one made a good quslity video like yours from it :( do you maybe know someone with it or do you have any experience from it?
Im sorry for my bad english thank you very much for your work!
Greetings ;)
Akrapovic for me just because it looks so good
Akra Always !!!
Tidy video mate. I prefer the look of the SC but can’t complain about the sound of the Akrapovic.
Is the bike less fuel efficient without cat if I don’t remap? Thanks and nice videos!
Great to hear. Trying to choose what to put on my CB
Which do you prefer now you have experienced both?
Sc project just because it's not quite as offensively loud and is totally road legal. 👍
At 1.17-1.18 what’s that vibration sound when revving the Akrapovic? The SC sounds quieter but smoother, the Akro sounds a bit raspy..
Nice Very Nice Work, I liked Akrapovic very much with and without db killer.
Is it possible to make the sc project exhaust louder? Cause I got one for myself and thought what if I cut that cylinder end part just before the muffler. What it make it sound bad?
Which one is more worth buying? In terms of
- Sound
- Loudness (which is louder)?
I am going to buy a new exhaust, but i don't really know which. Let me also know if you have a favorite on the CB 650 R :D
Thanks Julian
Great comparison.
I think you may have mislabelled the fly-bys.There is double with sc project - think one of them may be the Akra. Check it out. I may be wrong.
Cheers. They're all correctly labelled. 👍
Great comparison. I was wondering since you're not running a cat, have you done a pair removal or block? If not, will you do a how to on that? Thx.
I am running a cat.
Merci beaucoup pour cette nouvelle vidéo sur la ligne SC ! Un an que je me questionne sur le choix de la ligne d'échappement pour ma CB. Ce sera la SC1-M !!! Elle est vraiment très esthétique et reste légale Euro4. Parfait pour moi :-)
Merci beaucoup! Ca me fair plaisir que vous avez aime cette video.
Akra looks and sound for me
Sc project very nice sounds for Cb 650
I like the look of the SC Project better but the Akrapović sounds and performs better.
The SC Project performs better with a stock bike, less of a flat spot that you get with the Akra. The Akra sounds good though.
@@Englishbikerdan fair enough. Which one are you keeping?
@@alexandern4403 Well I'm not sure how much longer I'll keep the bike tbh but we'll see.
I'm American but live in the Philippines. It really puzzles me as to exhaust pricing. I know both of these systems from Europe and the US cost easily $1k+ and yet people here in SEA are running clones that can run $300 for the full system including labor for install. I know they are clones but I've seen the work that goes into the canisters and they are doing it properly including baffles and fiberglass packing. I wonder though in the long term if these Asian versions in the real world are any different from the originals and would affect the life of the engine. I mean in the end it's all just metal following specific dimensions and shape right?
It's a tough thing to decide if I'll blow the cash on an imported exhaust system or get a locally made one that sounds exactly the same.
R&D and type approval costs a LOT of money. I mean, A LOT. Knock off companies don't need to do any of that. I know where I'd rather put my money.
Hi, is this plug and play or is there still a need to adjust air to fuel ratio? I'm concerned new pipe will make the engine run lean. Pls. Advice. Thank you
Plug and play so it's nice and easy.
@@Englishbikerdan Thank you.
Great video! But it’s possible to remove the db killer and a cat in sc project?
Db killer, not yet. It's pretty hard to remove it and I've not managed to yet. You might be able to cut the weld and remove the cat but I think it's not worth risking the damage.
I too have this Full systemAkrapovic on my CBR 650F. In my opinion, there is no better exhaust than Akra. I have Arrow can on my Triumph Street Triple 675. One of my friends has full system Akra on his BMW s1000 rr
try racefit, one of my friend's friend has racefit on his 650F and the thump and sound it makes is priceless.
Has anyone seen the SC project one with dual tips? Does it sound different than this one? I decided the dual tip looks way better than these looks. I ended up deciding it was worth the 500 bucks more for me since I had to export it to Canada.
hi the akrapovic S-H6R12-HAFT is compatible for my honda cb650r 2019?
Hard one. SC is Louder.. but Akra may have the better base tones..
Excelente video
Parabéns pelo vídeo! Ficou excelente!
What an awesome,perfrct comparison..
Which one do you use on your bike the SC or the Akra ? What was your preference ?
Honestly my dream bike tho 🔥🔥
Out of interest did you catch your foot on the SC Project much?
I don't think I did.
I like the SC more
does the akra need a remapping of the ecu?
Ideally yeah.
Anyone know if I have to put a cat in to keep it legal in the EU and keep my warranty? Dealer said anything thats legal in the EU (E number or ABE) wont void my warranty
For the Akra yes. Although officially it's not type approved for the CB650R.
I still think the black widow sounded better, a bit more raspy
i go with sc project😊
Hi, can I ask you of you have remapped your engine on the CB 650R after installing the new exhaust system? If not, do you have any problems, because many people say that can cause overheating?
There is always a risk when adding a system that makes an already lean bike even more lean. When I added the Akra race system I rode it on some hot days, kept an eye on the temps and it was never overheating. Even on my week tour of Germany it never got close to overheating so it seems to be fine. The SC Project has a cat so is less free flowing and the bike feels better with that on. As always, keep an eye on things and make sure your fluids are checked regularly. Short answer, seemed to be ok for me. :)
EnglishBikerDan - Thanks for the info! Do you notice any difference in fuel consumption/power with the new exhaust?
Sc project exhaust 🔥👌
Thanks for video
I wanted to ask something, cause I'm new to the world of motorcycles and i don't know anything about exhausts .. so .. I want to know it's wrong decision to go for the sc project exhaust ( stainless steel) compare to akrapovic ( titanium ) and I'm talking about the quality ! What's ur opinion? ( the exhausts I look is sc carbon sc1-r and the carbon euro 4 akra ) anything u can say about these exhausts would be very helpful! Thnx a lot !!
As far as I know, only the muffler of the Akrapovic is titanium and the headers are stainless steel. The same goes for the SC Project, depending on which muffler you choose. I would say Akrapovic and SC Project are about the same in terms of quality. So it just depends what look you prefer.
@@Englishbikerdan oh I thought akra has almost 1500€ cause headers are also titanium ... thnx a lot for ur fast and helpful respond !!!
How did the guy with the SC exhaust get the cap of his motor another color; dark grey?
Those are R&G engine covers.
Do you need to remap on these exhausts? I’m edging more towards the SC just because it’s road legal lol
You can get away without a remap but it does run a bit lean. SC Project definitely felt better.
@@EnglishbikerdanAh right did you use the Power Commander or took it to the dyno?
@@Markymoo992 Sorry I meant you can get away without a remap. I never did the remap as trhe Power Commander wasn't available, or at least, that's whay Dynojet told me at the time.
@@Englishbikerdan Oh right lol that makes sense since at the time of the video these bikes were new to the market. They have them now lol, which did you end up choosing in the end?
@@Markymoo992 Yeah, I reached out to DynoJet at the time bu they told me none were available. I'm sure the PC for CB650F would have worked fine. In the end, I went with SC project because it ran better without any remap needed.
both sound good but the akra looks better
Akra ❤
Nice video!
Thank you!
Top demais esse canal!!! Very top this channel!!! Like, like, like!
Very similar when the bikes in motion. The Akra just looks better on the bike tucked away, a lot of deign thought gone into it..hence the price!
Is the sc1-r worth the 200€ more than the sc1-m?
Is it possible to remove the db killer from the sc project???
Yes but it's very difficult!
I go for Akra
Is it not possible to remove the db killer on the sc project?
You can, but it takes a lot of work.
How long did the shipment took for the sc
Akra I gotta say.
how can I reduce the akra CAT ?
will you remove the db killer and cat from the sc project? if yes could you do a video about this?
Cat no, but dB killer hell yeah! 😎
@@Englishbikerdan since im interested on the CR-T version,i would love ear without db killer,even here or on the forum,or both ahah ^^
SC has the winner.
Acrapovic the best
Any plans on removing the DB killer on the SC if its doable?
Tried it but it's pretty securely welded. Will need a dremel to remove it.
Akra sounds more smoother and rich
Akra is actually just ridiculously loud. SC is a nice smooth tone.
SC P. for me please
Nice
I have the sc project and if you change the air filter sound way better of the akrapovick........remind to me the sound of the old formula 1 v10 engine........
Ah nice! Yeah it sounds great. 👍
Put a video online to listen your beautiful machine
When you installed the air filter and the exhaust do you had muck more performance? Did you had to make a remap?
@@diogocoelho496 no there is no need to remap i just buy rapid bike easy its the one controll the O2 sensor to make the fuel little bit more rich, he does get better acceleration and sound I left the db killer because without its crazy loud.
Think I'd go for the SC Project purely on sound. Think I prefer Akrapovic looks though
Akra sound a little cleaner.
Hm the 650r don't make missfire or ? I expected more from this engine...the old 650f makes missfire and sounds better but the designe was terrible
if a bike makes missfire definitely not a good thing