When Melee Infantry completely out perform Missile Infantry
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Belegar outrunning the goblins be like: Dwarfs are natural sprinters
Very dangerous over short distances
@@pritzi101 I was about to say this.
in short bursts after Bugman's ale
You don't need to outrun the dragon. You only need to outrun the dwarf.
Easier said than done, I guess.
Legend: " *We are hopelessly outpowered.* "
Gobbo Archers: " *Is dat what you fink?* "
a man of culture
Outperform is a single word, sleep-deprived Australian man.
*Auxtrailer'an
"You! Just get over there and get shot!"
He's such a great commander, isn't he?
Shout out to that ancestral hero, who killed himself with a miscast right as Legend pointed spirit leech at him. Flawless suicide.
"I refuse to be killed. Death shall be at my own hands." - The Ancestral Runesmith
Legend: I've killed 2k of your troops, killed your lord and shamed your ancestors - wanna surrender?
Dwarfs: Nah, it'll be fine
The guy at 18:20 who asked "we have to watch this 40 times?" was right for the first time ever
Has there ever been a battle that you thought you could beat, but ended up losing?
pretty much all of them........ oh your talking about legend
Yes, when the game tells me i got heroic victory with autoresolve... And ends with a valiant defeat WTF.
That 1 lost from undefeated high elf stream for sure
@@chienmaiang1845 there was one more with SoA doomstack SYDB against lizards
@@chienmaiang1845 Oh yeah the Swordmaster stack lol legend forgot to pimp them out, Legend could make a no effort content video out of that one for the non streamers, maybe some subtitles with what he should have done.
"Pump Wagons assemble!"
Best. Line. Ever.
made me chuckle audibly
Got a timestamp?
@@nicoruppert4207 21:26
@@jardakkspiritfang5962 I waited for half a year...
Finally I have my answer!!
@@nicoruppert4207 Kinda shitty nobody gave you a timestamp over the course of 6 months.
Be the change you want to see.
46:12 Routing units aren't affected by vigour so the very tired gobbo boss is slower than the dwarf lord.
Oooooh that's why the escape so easily
Legend:
"Send somebody, send more, we need more balance of power here so they send more."
Also legend:
"I don't like what is happening here."
Also legend
"They are sending pretty much everybody."
The problem with greenskin campaigns is the slog of dwarf battles. Every dwarf warrior thinks he’s a fucking iron breaker.
they pretty much are:p fighting to the last model standing:p
The one situation I've found where Spirit Leach was useful is against cav units. I found that each tick of damage was enough to kill a model. It was handy in the early fights of Grom's campaign when going up against the elite cav in some of Bretonnia's garrisons.
i didn't know overcasting runes can miscast, I thought all that cooldown was already bad enough
learning something new everytime :D
"some might call that unfair" but you see legend we possess a power the AI doesn't... A brain
it's pretty much the bad difficulty design that encourages the cheese, ripens the cheese you might say, cause old TW had the possibility for cheese too though there were enough conventional tactics too win
Whenever I see legend post I realize he’s a solid 7 hours behind central time so he posted this at 11 pm. Given I go to bed at 10 I salute you boss!!!
You can schedule videos you know :)
wait till you learn at what time he streams
Legend basically works nights all week and I have no idea how he's still sane.
Legend I watch this whole thing thank you for the sound of the frustration. You are a legend when it comes down to see your tactics
Man, arguments between manlets sure are brutal.
I bet there's a special kind of book for dwarfs that kill them self with a miscast x)
"The Great Book of Disappointments"
The book of edge, many dorfs has cut themselves on it.
Thorek's Book of Darwinism.
another thing to mention about waagh army with general, it will replenish when it has a lord, it won't without it.
46:30 AI: "I've altered the numbers, pray I don't alter them further."
Love this kind of videos. Even the LOOOoooooNG ones ;). 90min o you kicking some meta butt is 90mins well spent
Me: a expert playing greenskins in TWW reactin to 1:32:47
BRAIN EXPLODE
This battle shows lorewise why the dwarves can't take back eight peaks lol.
Hey legend, just saying I’ve been watching u for about a year now. You seriously upped my game since I started watching, I would never play above normal but now I’m killing it on legendary games starting to feel easy to be honest, not because I’m good because the damn CHEESE IS SOO STANKY. It’s kind beautiful how damn complex this game is, never seen a game with a higher skill cap.
Thank you for your content keep it up man I always look forward to a new vid!
Try head to head campaign for a higher skill cap. Bonus point if you play Norsca and your Opponent play High Elf.
The only games that I know with higher skillcaps are rhythm based games eg Osu or Geometry Dash, or (and I’m not kidding) competitive minecraft pvp.
never seen a game with higher skillcap? brah, there is esports, you need fkin years to play normally in lets say league of legends and don't make me write more because there are 9999 xD
try dwarf fortress, pal.
@@dimas3829 dwarf fortress doesn't require skill, just knowledge. Most of the threats can be stopped with a bridge
Deja vu... This isnt the first time he has done this and it wont be the last Im sure.
The guy is still pretty screwed though Belegar has taken his capital and will soon destroy the rest of his small empire, while he sits dangerously close to Tilea who will prolly declare war on his ass soon enough
Skarsnick's capital is a waste of time and no big loss, he can easily take Belegar's starter province which is worth far more to him and defend it with a second stack whilst Skarsnick's army finishes off Belegar or he can continue on to 8 peaks. This campaign is nowhere near over.
That was probably his intentions, his campaign is in decent shape. Heading straight for 8 peaks and abandoning the starter province is a well known strat so that's probably what he is doing. I'm guessing he waited until he got himself a waaagh army before heading down there, but he may have made it more difficult by doing that because 8 peaks will be a bit more well defended by this turn. But he could run into Grimgor and smash his army which would give him the option to confederate grimgor...actually there's a ton of possibilities...but anyways his campaign is definitely not screwed
dancing the arrows cheese, one of the favorites in the playbook
Saw the title and I knew it would be a Greenskins army. Their Melee units are really good compared to other races.
"Am I gonna have to do this 40 times? No! A few times, then army losses" - then you check the video length
Just playing, thanks for the content!
Dwarves are short sighted? That’s going in the fucking book.
"we need to *under-mine* the dwarven army here" xD
Amazing video my dude, keep it up
Man, that time stamp is daunting 😂
For some that may not have it clear, Spirit Leech doing a minimun of arround 400 damage and a maximun of arround 800 damage(depending on luck and magic resistance) is I guess the most balanced it can be for now, when Legend say "it sucks" it doesn't mean that it's horrible but that it's not OP like other spells who can carry you(it be easily better than fireball and a few other magic missiles, but not as good as Soul Quench and others) , nevertheless if you have a Death caster you should have 2 points on Spirit Leech as having it cost 6 winds instead of 8 is massive, also there is no other spells that does the same thing without missing to single targets so it's good to have, sometimes it's ok against non single targets IF you want to kill some models before engaging with certain units as it targets and finishes models individually, the contrary of what other spells like Melkos, etc do which is targetting all the models for some hp.
Melkoth at is cheaper and slows while doing damage. Fireball again is cheaper and has much higher range plus damage potential against non single entity units. Spirit leech was good a long by time ago until it was nerfed a few times. At first it was a bit op but people complained the Vampire counts were to strong with it so like everything counts it was nerfed to almost useless. I remember seeing so many comments complaining about MP lots sniping but were fine with goon squads of paladins doing the same. It’s why I hate this game being balanced by MP when less than 10% of players even touch it.
Could anyone tell me what time he goes live? Can't find it anywhere. Thanks!
That spirit leech did not inflict 1000 damage, he miscasted!
Wisdom from Legend:
If we're lucky, it'll kill him, if we aren't lucky, it wouldn't.
does anyone know the specs for warhammer 3 i wanna go ahead and preorder it but i need to know if it will run on my computer
when you know the video is good by just reading the caption
I was really hoping for a long battle or long video but nasty skulkers vs dwarves is kinda boring. I still watch the whole thing because legend is always giving out great advice
Legend you're a mad man!
Excellent goblin gitz fightin in their underpants in the underway. Nobody mucks wiv gobboz on dere own turf. *naughty giggle of glee* Cheers Legend.
Goblin fanatics with skarsnik's death juice and all skarsnik goblin buffs are really underrated.
never cease to amaze
Im pretty sure this is code for "help ive been kidnapped" Legend would never make this vid...
this totally seems like what Skarsnik would do.
*DON'T KILL ME I'M JUST A POOW WIDDLE GOBWIN!*
Thanks for the video
It seems like the first cast of spirit leech is always resisted but the following ones do more. Though thats not great having to waste a first cast every time
37:55 listen for the goblin shouting 'mudda fukka' obviously real happy about that dwarf overcast kill
RIVEEEER TROOOOOLL HAAAAAG
How is this possible
Dawi Stalingrad ...
"Look at this over here, fucking isolated" 1:18:57
I feel attacked
Legend could be so good as N'kari
Legendoftotalwar: "BuT gUYs, pURPle sUN is nOT GOOOOood!"
It isn't
@@Bubbl3Bubbl3gum OooOh! LOok At Me! LOoK aT mE! i tHink liKE LEgenD!
Damn I just woke up and bam 😂
I love melee infantry, remember the op Roman cohorts from Rome 1?
Me too, but it's not really that viable on very hard battle difficulty.
Spirit leeching magic resistant heros isn't bad since some damage is better than doing no damage while you wait. I think spamming it until your reserves drop to 25% of 100 would be OK. Given that there wasn't much reserves to begin with, I guess saving it for the best target wasn't a bad idea after all.
Love some cheap gobbos are one of the very few melee infantry units that are not terrible on vh battle difficulty.
Dwarves with over 3 stacks on turn 24? Thats a lot even for Legendary
Greenskin campaigns are fun. Going to have to do a Grom campaign myself before WH3.
Grab the spectator mod, just in case. The final battle of Grom's campaign can break with you unable to give orders.
Ah yes the early game where AI clan Angrund can easy afford to field 3 mid quality armies, yet when you play them you barely can afford some 1 basic infantry and xbows :D
This is why I'm having to roll sister of avelorn stacks with Teclis in WH3. On hard mode, as an above average gamer, I need 2 stacks to fight one stack from Thorek. I replayed stack vs stack battle with a life a mage, 5 spears, and the rest Archers/Sea guard probably 8 times and no matter what I couldnt kill even 50% of thwi3 force. I could have EVERY ranged unit focus Thorek and you couldn't even see his float health bar drop during a full volley. Like their worst unit is heavily armored and hits like a truck. While you are trying to kill iron drakes before they melt your infantry a dwarf melee specialist and Thorek is melting them anyway. AI dwarves: 10/10. Player dwarves: 3/10.
I thought this was click bait at first XD
23:00 Random question; does anybody know if casting a Rune of Speed on Slayers is worth it? Like do they move at minotaur speed or do they hit their animation cap at like 50 Speed?
edit: 37:45 LMAO Throni literally poofed out of existence.
There’s actually a mod that will help you determine animation caps, I’ll look up the name and repost comment. It adds a bar on tool tip so you see what’s the max move speed of units. Highly recommend it will tell u name soon
Replying to be notified later. Don't mind me.
@@keithemerson7662 Same with me.
So i was trying to find it on nexus or online as I was having trouble finding it again on workshop (got a new steam account and mod launcher so I don’t have all my old mods)
But hope this helps from my experience with playing with that on:
- Infantry max animation speed is roughly around 55 (yes this includes dwarves and any tiny legged infantry, they just start to super sprint on animation instead of regular run. Looks kinda funny)
- heavy Calvary (ie empire knights and others) are capped at 110
- light Calvary are capped at 120
- monsters (giants, shaggoths) are capped at 60
- monster infantry excluding runners like skin wolves are capped at 60 as well
- running monster infantry (monster Calvary) are capped at 90
- any siege equipment will not go faster than 30
- this all applies to lords on foot, heavy Calvary or flying monster
(Light flying monsters like Pegasus are capped at 130, heavy are capped at 100)
Hope this helps,
These are very roughly what each type of units cap is but it is very accurate. Generally don’t waste ur time talking infantry above 60, Calvary above 100, monsters above 60
@@digitalsoft2864 Dude thanks for the info!
No problem if you couldn't find the mod, I was just curious about animations limiting the speed of certain units. I guess Slayers do benefit a bit from a Rune of Speed huh, kinda funny that you CAN see dwarfs and elves of all things tied on speed on foot. XD
man, kinda dissapointed that Aranessa can't anime-run at like 60+ speed in the base game
When is next film in gameply Warhammer 3? XD.
"-you might as well try to pound a brick wall with your bare head, like with your forehead."
Ahh drats, and here I was about to smack a brick wall with my non-existent penis head!
Honestly, early game dwarven battles are very easy. Your troops, even on higher difficulties, just do not break.
Which is all fine and dandy...until you run out of ammo ;) IF you run out of ammo, of course.
@@jabloko992 This is where the fun begins!
Wait a minute
Pog
Hello." Please only send campaigns/battles on large or ultra unit scale. Normal unit scale will not be accepted. Small unit scale only if it's part of the gimmick. " What is or does a "unit scale" and where can i configure it? Thank you guys! :)
It's in difficulty settings and it affects how many entities are in a given squad. Some strategies are more viable in smaller unit scale.
But Legend....
one thing i always hated about this game the seer amount of RNG it out on your campaign like you can start out fighting OP army normals army or week armys or that may happen half way though still a great game BUT as always RNG is a pain in the ass
So this is basically all about abusing the fact AI does not have object permanence :D
I really like LoTW but its sad thats this is all legandery is cheese that cheese that would be nice if the Ai relised what you were doing and ignored you and went looking for your other units
spirit leech vs single entities is not shit, its cheap, has short cd, and does good damage. you were complaining how ineffective it was, but it burned through that hp quick.
Dwarf just did himself with miscasts.
@@quint3ssent1a lol no, maybe at the end there. 95% of that damage was spirit leech
@@LimeGuy101 He miscast twice, that's why Legend thought the second spirit leech did so much damage.
400 damage on a guy with no magic resistance for 8 WoM is definitely not effective. Most melee lords do that with one swing.
@@otwk for lord sniping capability at range, there are few other spells as efficient
@@LimeGuy101 Fireball, Shem's Burning Gaze, the magic missile from Little Waagh, Warpstars, probably two or three others
Spirit Leech isn't Gaze of Nagash levels of bad, and once you have it at 6 Winds + Life Leeching, it's okay to help get rid of characters you can't easily kill.
Nonetheless, it's not a good spell and rarely cost-efficient.
I still don't get how you're meant to use chariots.
Basically run them into the sides or back of enemies. Then retreat them. Repeat. Lotta people don't use chariots because you kinda have to watch them carefully to make sure they don't get surrounded.
I don't care what anyone says. Unless they have exploding arrows goblin archers are butt.
If there is one thing that I want fixed in WH3 above everything else is "ammo wasting". Get rid of it and maybe then we will stop seeing video after video of someone clicking left and right for 5 minutes.
@Munición de Sobra Yeah, there are plenty of variables, you can fix something and break 5 different other things. Simplest solution could be something like looking at how effective the ranged unit is at hurting its current target. If it's not then find a different target. Wizards will be able to move around unmolested, but realistically archers cannot stop them anyway.
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It is actually quite disappointing watching over an hour of careful battle just to see some really shitty fight decisions at the end...
Really? After the hour mark i can most definitely empathize with "i've had enough, let's just get this over with" and i watched this at 2x speed lol.
God I like you but this title is fucking cringe I can’t imagine playing this ranged meta in warhammer 3 another 1000 hours or so let alone you with several thousand hours blows my mind but congrats on finding like one the few good infantry units on legendary difficulty you could count on 1 hand essentially 😂
Do you really enjoy winning with cheese? I mean you're essentially cheating because no competent player/ai would let drain all their ammo, they would run right past you. Stick to the x's and o's and win the proper way. Shame on Games Workshop for making such a dumb AI. I would never do this in my own campaign because it's not fun and a waste of time. Maybe summarize this in a much shorter video and say you had to cheese to win? What did this guy learn? How to spend 1.5 hours on cheese for one battle to win? At what point do you say "sorry dude, your campaign ain't worth my time even though I could save it"?
It's not game workshop fault, it's Creative Assembly that made the game, GW is only the creator of the warhammer universe.
And to respond, he likes it, that's he's thing, everyone plays the way he like.
Personally I put the campaign difficulty on legendary and the battle on normal because I like to have balanced army and not use the meta range units but it's my choice.
If you don't like to watch his gameplay just don't, people won't if they aren't interested.
Someone's lactose intolerant.
"Do you really enjoy winning with cheese?" Yes. Keep crying.
Maybe you should play a different game.