Great. Love your midi tools. Yes it would be great to see more videos with the midi tools. Sometimes it’s great to get some inspiration and of course it’s good for you and new customers 🤙🏼🙂
As a percussionist seeing you confused by the Dorico nested tuplet example made me chuckle. Just wait until you see what it looks like to play a 7 contained within a 5 contained within a triplet.
Although I must say the electronic music way of understanding nested tuplets is much more intuitive, and learning Max/Ableton allowed me to better perform them in my own playing.
haha yes! i was in a room recently with some percussionists and just sat quitely while they talked of 2s and 4s and 7 over 8s. maybe over time the lingo will sink in - i'm sure there are many wonderful secrets to be discovered! very interesting to hear how working with computers has developed your playing!
A simpler way to think about it, is that most music we listen to is based on rhythms that subdivide the bar in a binary fashion: 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32. The most common exception to this is 'waltz time' where the bar is divided into multiples of 3. In classical music, Chopin started subdividing the bar, and parts of the bar, into sevens, fives, seventeens etc. This was mostly in the context of 'classical tempo' which tends to be very fluid so it creates the impression of elaborate ornamentation of the melody. Frank Zappa, however, uses the idea as a basic rhythmic foundation as does the traditional folk music of Bulgaria.
Philip, for a long time I've been planning to do a piece using polytemporality, or, at least in the short term, a piece where certain passages are polytemporal (polyrhythmic, more precisely). Can you imagine how excited I became during this video? Also... I now better understand why my favorite jazz drummer is my favorite jazz drummer (Elvin Jones). Thanks! -Bob.
It's cool that you continue to make videos about your product. I feel a bit overwelmed with the plugings, so those videos give me a bit of dirrection what to do with them.
wow when you applied feel it really added a lot of swing i felt was missing. very cool again philip i feel like the max4live device ntpd could be an easy way to keep track of things but you’d have to take your own notes
yeah that worked out nicely! the keeping track is one thing, and then the actually having state propagate forward is another. i do find there's a good workflow with a combination of cloning clips and a lot of CMD Z
Nice to see these kind of tools in Ableton. They remind of the stuff Professor Braff and the NeverEngineLabs (Vogel/Scholda) were doing with timeindex (phasor, in Max speak) in Kyma. Rhythms derived from warping time indices are really powerful ruclips.net/video/ncisjprwKfQ/видео.htmlsi=mofx5IV-q18ULuux
+1 for transformation chains!
Great. Love your midi tools. Yes it would be great to see more videos with the midi tools. Sometimes it’s great to get some inspiration and of course it’s good for you and new customers 🤙🏼🙂
that's the idea! thanks.
As a percussionist seeing you confused by the Dorico nested tuplet example made me chuckle. Just wait until you see what it looks like to play a 7 contained within a 5 contained within a triplet.
Although I must say the electronic music way of understanding nested tuplets is much more intuitive, and learning Max/Ableton allowed me to better perform them in my own playing.
haha yes! i was in a room recently with some percussionists and just sat quitely while they talked of 2s and 4s and 7 over 8s. maybe over time the lingo will sink in - i'm sure there are many wonderful secrets to be discovered!
very interesting to hear how working with computers has developed your playing!
... this is pure gold - thanks a lot, Philip!
A simpler way to think about it, is that most music we listen to is based on rhythms that subdivide the bar in a binary fashion: 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32. The most common exception to this is 'waltz time' where the bar is divided into multiples of 3. In classical music, Chopin started subdividing the bar, and parts of the bar, into sevens, fives, seventeens etc. This was mostly in the context of 'classical tempo' which tends to be very fluid so it creates the impression of elaborate ornamentation of the melody. Frank Zappa, however, uses the idea as a basic rhythmic foundation as does the traditional folk music of Bulgaria.
yes! armenia too i believe.
lookin forward to a free improv sounding set in the future, sounds so organic and fluid
Philip, for a long time I've been planning to do a piece using polytemporality, or, at least in the short term, a piece where certain passages are polytemporal (polyrhythmic, more precisely). Can you imagine how excited I became during this video? Also... I now better understand why my favorite jazz drummer is my favorite jazz drummer (Elvin Jones). Thanks! -Bob.
thank you! i'm glad these tools are helping you make make new novel music!
It's cool that you continue to make videos about your product. I feel a bit overwelmed with the plugings, so those videos give me a bit of dirrection what to do with them.
i'm glad! yes stay tuned, i'll keep making them.
loving this!
wow when you applied feel it really added a lot of swing i felt was missing. very cool again philip
i feel like the max4live device ntpd could be an easy way to keep track of things but you’d have to take your own notes
yeah that worked out nicely! the keeping track is one thing, and then the actually having state propagate forward is another. i do find there's a good workflow with a combination of cloning clips and a lot of CMD Z
great, thanks
Nice to see these kind of tools in Ableton. They remind of the stuff Professor Braff and the NeverEngineLabs (Vogel/Scholda) were doing with timeindex (phasor, in Max speak) in Kyma. Rhythms derived from warping time indices are really powerful ruclips.net/video/ncisjprwKfQ/видео.htmlsi=mofx5IV-q18ULuux
wow awesome, thanks for turning me on to this stuff! can't wait to explore
Just ableton 12?
"Please make it possible to control this feature through MIDI mapping."
You need to play an example earlier in your videos to hook people. I'm 2 minutes in and haven't heard anything yet.
Totes agree